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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellancamps and cameradge Edge.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
- 0:15Speaker 2: a Pod with myself and Alexia. We are recapping Real
- 0:21Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County. I felt like this episode at
- 0:28Speaker 2: moments I enjoy I like laughed. It wasn't so heavy
- 0:31Speaker 2: this episode. Did you agree? I agree?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Yes, you know, obviously there were some you know, instances
- 0:39Speaker 3: where it was a little heavy, but I like that
- 0:41Speaker 3: the girls had fun.
- 0:43Speaker 2: You know.
- 0:43Speaker 3: I always love when they go away on trips because
- 0:45Speaker 3: I feel like we see the best of them and
- 0:47Speaker 3: you get the best of both. It's kind of like
- 0:49Speaker 3: we have our moments, but we also have fun, and
- 0:51Speaker 3: they're they're actually a lot of fun, so it's fun
- 0:53Speaker 3: to watch.
- 0:54Speaker 2: What trip would you have rather gone on? Big Bear
- 0:57Speaker 2: or Looking Okay? So I love Tamara and I love
- 1:01Speaker 2: her house. I would love to go with tamoraw.
- 1:03Speaker 3: But I don't know if Alexis was there, but I
- 1:06Speaker 3: would want to be on that on that trip, because like,
- 1:08Speaker 3: she doesn't shut up, and then all she talks about
- 1:10Speaker 3: is John. Like I liked her when we were at
- 1:12Speaker 3: iHeart she had other conversation thank God she didn't talk
- 1:14Speaker 3: about John. But I feel like every time she's with
- 1:17Speaker 3: the ladies, all she wants to talk about John, So
- 1:19Speaker 3: because I would have picked.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Do you think maybe she didn't talk about John so
- 1:23Speaker 2: much because we all talked so much, so we didn't
- 1:25Speaker 2: give her the opportunity.
- 1:26Speaker 3: No, she talked, but she was just being like light
- 1:29Speaker 3: and fun, and you know, we saw a different side
- 1:30Speaker 3: to her, thank god, because I mean it's a lot.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I honestly don't even want to watch her scenes.
- 1:37Speaker 3: I want to like fast forward because all she has
- 1:39Speaker 3: to talk about Johnny John.
- 1:40Speaker 2: I was like, I you know, yes, Well it starts
- 1:47Speaker 2: out where Heather tells Emily that she went so hard
- 1:50Speaker 2: on Jen about her rolex at dinner. Emily doesn't get
- 1:53Speaker 2: why Jen doesn't sell or hide the rolex if she
- 1:56Speaker 2: owes a bunch of people money. Emily says, the rolex
- 1:58Speaker 2: doesn't even work. She asked her what time and said
- 2:01Speaker 2: it doesn't work, do you Okay, Well, let me say
- 2:04Speaker 2: something about rolics.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Unless you wear your roles, unless you shake it, you know,
- 2:08Speaker 3: and unless you wear it every day, it's not going
- 2:10Speaker 3: to stay on time. So that doesn't mean that she
- 2:12Speaker 3: has the rolics. That doesn't work. It's just that you
- 2:14Speaker 3: have to wear your rolics like every day for it
- 2:16Speaker 3: to like stay on time. And I know that because
- 2:19Speaker 3: I wear like I don't wear mine. I don't set
- 2:21Speaker 3: my watch like, you know, for the time. And I
- 2:23Speaker 3: think a lot of us don't, you know, because we're
- 2:24Speaker 3: so used to the phone and we rely on the
- 2:26Speaker 3: phone that we really don't use the rolics for time.
- 2:29Speaker 2: But pro tip, if you have a Rolex and you
- 2:32Speaker 2: don't wear it every day, all you have to do
- 2:34Speaker 2: is shake it really hard and then it comes back alive.
- 2:37Speaker 3: So bad it does, but you have to like reset it,
- 2:39Speaker 3: you know. It depends Like I don't wear mine all
- 2:41Speaker 3: the time, so that that happens to it. But even
- 2:43Speaker 3: when I put it on, I don't even care to
- 2:45Speaker 3: set it properly because I rely on my phone.
- 2:47Speaker 2: My data's ever correct. I can say that for sure.
- 2:50Speaker 2: God I can't say that. Yeah, but I feel like,
- 2:53Speaker 2: but I love the fact that everybody's more offended about
- 2:56Speaker 2: the rolex discussion versus the being called dumb, Like I'd
- 2:59Speaker 2: be more said about being called dumb then, right, Yeah,
- 3:02Speaker 2: I caught that.
- 3:03Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody even addressed that but you know, sometimes when
- 3:06Speaker 3: you're in it, like we get to see it, and
- 3:08Speaker 3: I'm sure they went back and said God, like I
- 3:10Speaker 3: would have been offended for that too, but like at
- 3:12Speaker 3: the moment, you just it doesn't register.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah, then, but I think.
- 3:17Speaker 3: She went too hard on her. I mean, and besides that,
- 3:19Speaker 3: like how much is her rolics? It's like a stainless
- 3:21Speaker 3: steel rolics. And besides that, you know, how much how
- 3:25Speaker 3: much money does she owe? I don't even think that
- 3:27Speaker 3: she owes money, like she said, you know, she just
- 3:29Speaker 3: didn't pay her rent, but it's not like she owes
- 3:31Speaker 3: a bunch of people money.
- 3:32Speaker 2: But also, let's be very clear, to resell your rolex,
- 3:35Speaker 2: it's like reselling your engagement ring. You ain't getting much
- 3:38Speaker 2: for it. A resell value on something you've already worn.
- 3:42Speaker 2: It's not Yeah, we don't even know what model it is.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 3:45Speaker 3: I just thought it was like a mean comment to
- 3:47Speaker 3: make you know just everything she's going through.
- 3:50Speaker 2: I just didn't think it was like the right moment. Well,
- 3:52Speaker 2: I asked Emily about it on popping Off, not about
- 3:56Speaker 2: this particular situation, but before when she made the comment
- 3:58Speaker 2: about money, and I said, like, why did you make
- 4:02Speaker 2: that comment? She said to me. Jen opened the door
- 4:06Speaker 2: by making fun of herself. So once she started making
- 4:09Speaker 2: fun of herself about the money stuff, I thought it
- 4:12Speaker 2: was fair game. Do I am I justifying what Emily said?
- 4:15Speaker 2: Did No? But I do think. I mean, Emily heckles
- 4:20Speaker 2: me all the time on the podcast, and I've just
- 4:23Speaker 2: we laugh it off.
- 4:24Speaker 3: But I'm not easily offended in that way. And you
- 4:27Speaker 3: have a different relationship with her as well. You know,
- 4:30Speaker 3: you're not like in that group setting.
- 4:31Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I just think it's a little bit too much, honestly. Yeah,
- 4:35Speaker 3: I don't like those meeting digs. Yeah.
- 4:38Speaker 2: But then Shannon tells Katie and Gina that she got
- 4:40Speaker 2: a letter from the law firm that says that she
- 4:42Speaker 2: owes John seventy five k plus interest and attorney fees.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Gina says, Alexis is now with two men who both
- 4:50Speaker 2: sued Shannon and Shannon is floored by what came out
- 4:54Speaker 2: of Tamra's mouth at dinner. What'd you think about this?
- 4:59Speaker 3: Well, I think everybody was floored about what came out
- 5:02Speaker 3: of Tamora's mouth at dinner. Wouldn't you say that? I
- 5:07Speaker 3: would say, and I've read a lot of comments, and
- 5:09Speaker 3: you know, people are not liking, you know, what Tamora's
- 5:13Speaker 3: doing because you know, there were friends no matter what,
- 5:15Speaker 3: and it's really hard to watch.
- 5:18Speaker 2: I was so grateful I can say this as Tarma's
- 5:21Speaker 2: good friend, to watch this episode where she had a
- 5:25Speaker 2: good episode this week. I was like, yeah, thank you, Tama,
- 5:29Speaker 2: thank you Tamra, because I needed I needed you this
- 5:34Speaker 2: like the fact it's just so much fun.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Yeah, and I loved watching her, like I know that
- 5:38Speaker 3: side to her, so I was so refreshing it.
- 5:40Speaker 2: It's so nice to watch.
- 5:41Speaker 3: And like I said, I would have loved to be
- 5:43Speaker 3: in a big bear with her because I know how
- 5:45Speaker 3: much fun she is and you know how great she is.
- 5:47Speaker 3: But you know that scene with Shannon, I don't know
- 5:50Speaker 3: what's going on, but she's being really harsh on her.
- 5:54Speaker 2: I mean, I think you don't have that much anger
- 5:57Speaker 2: without love, and I think that's the problem. That's a
- 6:00Speaker 2: good point. Yeah, sure, you know, like if you don't
- 6:03Speaker 2: really care about somebody, you're just going to be like,
- 6:06Speaker 2: I mean whatever, you know, it is what it is.
- 6:08Speaker 2: But I think when you have that much builts why
- 6:10Speaker 2: she fights so hard yeaheah, that's a good point. I mean,
- 6:13Speaker 2: I think Tamara loves hard and she fights hard, and
- 6:16Speaker 2: that's what makes her. You know, when you're when you're
- 6:19Speaker 2: in a place of like for me, like I know
- 6:22Speaker 2: Tama would do anything for me unless I did her.
- 6:25Speaker 3: But what about for Shannon? I me, you know, we're
- 6:27Speaker 3: going to see you know, I'm really hoping that at
- 6:30Speaker 3: some point that they're going to get back to a
- 6:33Speaker 3: better place and that we're going to get to see
- 6:36Speaker 3: that and support that because I'm not you know what
- 6:38Speaker 3: happens with these situations. And honestly, if you're really concerned
- 6:41Speaker 3: about your friends, and I know that she is, she
- 6:43Speaker 3: would want to see, you know, a good result, and
- 6:47Speaker 3: you know she would want to be friends with with
- 6:48Speaker 3: Shannon and kind of like forget about everything that happened
- 6:51Speaker 3: in the past and just focus on now and making
- 6:54Speaker 3: Shannon better.
- 6:55Speaker 2: I wouldn't hold your breath on that, mm hmm. I.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Then Gina is telling us she's selling Elizabeth Vargas's home
- 7:04Speaker 2: and Lakina for eight point nine ninety five. Gina is
- 7:07Speaker 2: bringing the ladies with her to check on her house.
- 7:10Speaker 2: So you know, Elizabeth Vargas was a housewife, right she
- 7:16Speaker 2: was for one season. Hm. I don't know. I'm trying
- 7:21Speaker 2: to think, like I mean, I know I've done Poppins,
- 7:24Speaker 2: but I'm trying to think if I would do a
- 7:25Speaker 2: pop in just to show my hungry koy, or if
- 7:28Speaker 2: I would have just let it be. I don't know.
- 7:32Speaker 3: I think for her it was like a win situation
- 7:34Speaker 3: because she's going to have her house featured on the
- 7:37Speaker 3: Housewives call it. Well that's a scary part, right that
- 7:42Speaker 3: we don't know what's going to come out of these
- 7:44Speaker 3: women's mouth. But the house didn't have the mold. It
- 7:46Speaker 3: was just like the cut cutting board right right. So
- 7:48Speaker 3: that doesn't really say much, but the fact that somebody
- 7:52Speaker 3: would bring that up, but you know, she's used to it.
- 7:54Speaker 3: She was a housewife. She should have known what she
- 7:56Speaker 3: was getting herself into. But the home is spectacular. I
- 7:59Speaker 3: mean that home in Miami would cost twenty million dollars
- 8:01Speaker 3: by the way.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean those houses and Lakinta. But
- 8:05Speaker 2: here's the difference. You can live in Miami all year long.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Lakina like, there are three to four months you cannot
- 8:12Speaker 2: live there. It is scorching hot, like everybody that lives
- 8:17Speaker 2: in that neighborhood they leave for the summers, Like that
- 8:20Speaker 2: would be hard if I'm going to spend ten million
- 8:22Speaker 2: dollars on the house. Yeah, Like I want to know that.
- 8:26Speaker 2: I I mean, granted, I would buy a house there
- 8:28Speaker 2: in a minute if I had endless finances, but that's
- 8:32Speaker 2: that's a big chunk of money to pay to go. Okay,
- 8:35Speaker 2: but we won't be there for summers, and I have
- 8:37Speaker 2: kids in school. But I don't think she wanted to leave.
- 8:41Speaker 2: I want to know what time production was, Like, I, Elizabeth, right,
- 8:46Speaker 2: it's time. It's time for you to go. We saw
- 8:48Speaker 2: your house, We see that you gave Gina the listing.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Do we think it's convenient that she gave Gina the listing?
- 8:54Speaker 2: Do you think she'd be so to be on the show?
- 8:57Speaker 2: I think so.
- 8:57Speaker 3: I think it was great for Gina, and and I'm
- 9:01Speaker 3: sure that was like her selling point, like you know,
- 9:03Speaker 3: a feature your house on the show. So that's how
- 9:05Speaker 3: one of the reasons why she probably got the listing,
- 9:07Speaker 3: you know, be signs of her friendship. And then she's
- 9:08Speaker 3: a good realtor, and I'm sure she'll sell it for her.
- 9:12Speaker 3: But I think it was a great opportunity for both
- 9:14Speaker 3: of them. How do you think about her bringing the
- 9:16Speaker 3: girls though, well, that was kind of like the only
- 9:18Speaker 3: well not really, they could she could have done a
- 9:20Speaker 3: scene at the house where she's showing the house and
- 9:22Speaker 3: maybe not inviting the girls. Would you invite the Housewives
- 9:25Speaker 3: to like one of your properties if you had that listing?
- 9:28Speaker 2: I mean, I think clearly if you have that, if
- 9:32Speaker 2: you have multiple houses that you can sell for that
- 9:35Speaker 2: price point, if somebody spills an espresso martini on the rug,
- 9:39Speaker 2: it's probably not that big of a deal. If it
- 9:41Speaker 2: was your one and only house and you had this
- 9:44Speaker 2: amount of money, like I think that would be different.
- 9:46Speaker 2: But if it's like your vacation house and it is
- 9:49Speaker 2: what it is, like, yeah, sure, why not let's show
- 9:51Speaker 2: it on television, right.
- 9:52Speaker 3: And I'm sure somebody that's buying that home is that's
- 9:55Speaker 3: not going to be a deal breaker. Okay, you had
- 9:56Speaker 3: an express a martini like spot on your rug.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Yeah, But also, Gina, if this is your listing, then
- 10:04Speaker 2: clearly Jen's eviction isn't hurting your nine million dollar house,
- 10:09Speaker 2: brand new agent situation. You know what I'm saying, Like
- 10:12Speaker 2: Gina's whole story about you're hurting me as a realtor
- 10:15Speaker 2: because you didn't pay your rent. Well, here's your nine
- 10:18Speaker 2: million dollar listing that you have in a place that
- 10:20Speaker 2: you don't even live. Like right, she does live in Lakita,
- 10:24Speaker 2: She is not a main agent in Lakita. She lives
- 10:27Speaker 2: in Orange County.
- 10:28Speaker 3: And though realtors make a lot less money from rentals versus,
- 10:32Speaker 3: you know, selling their property, you know the money is
- 10:34Speaker 3: in the selling, not really in the renting. They get
- 10:36Speaker 3: like a very short commission, a very small commission for Renas.
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- 11:23Speaker 2: I did laugh about Shane.
- 11:24Speaker 3: You know.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Now they're all packing up to go, Shane says, do
- 11:28Speaker 2: not eat in the car. Of course, nobody listens to
- 11:30Speaker 2: go to Jack in the Box. And then in the
- 11:34Speaker 2: other car, and a shocking turn of events, Alexis is
- 11:36Speaker 2: talking about John like I'd rather have forty two Jack
- 11:41Speaker 2: in the Box tacos, like actually I won't right now,
- 11:44Speaker 2: mm hmm, I want a monster taco right this second.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Then probably hear about Johnny, Johnny j oh same.
- 11:54Speaker 3: That's why I said, when you asked me that question,
- 11:57Speaker 3: which car would I have written it? And I said,
- 11:59Speaker 3: you know, I thought Tamra's trip to Big Bear would
- 12:03Speaker 3: have been so much fun and something like I've never done.
- 12:05Speaker 3: And I love Tamera, but I saw Alexis was there
- 12:08Speaker 3: and all she talks about is John So I'm like,
- 12:09Speaker 3: oh my god, I could never do that, Like I
- 12:11Speaker 3: just couldn't be there with her like all the time
- 12:13Speaker 3: talking about them.
- 12:14Speaker 2: So but then I get awkward and lakinta that then
- 12:18Speaker 2: I would have I would have sucked up dealing with
- 12:20Speaker 2: Alexis just so I could have had the fun and
- 12:22Speaker 2: Big Bear because you have sucked toes like camera did.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I'm I'm maybe for the right price,
- 12:30Speaker 2: I maybe would have sucked a toe, but I wouldn't
- 12:32Speaker 2: have eaten the pie afterwards. Did you notice I do that?
- 12:36Speaker 2: I mean I had to see that. But then after
- 12:39Speaker 2: the toes are and they're doing all the things, then
- 12:42Speaker 2: they panted and like grabbing a piece. I know there
- 12:44Speaker 2: was two pies, so maybe that was a situation, but
- 12:49Speaker 2: I was like that, I don't know. That's where I
- 12:52Speaker 2: draw the line, but here we go. I loved I
- 12:59Speaker 2: actually loved both houses. I would be happy to be
- 13:02Speaker 2: at either house. I enjoyed certain dynamics from both groups.
- 13:08Speaker 2: But at the start, alexis facetimes John and Tamra and
- 13:12Speaker 2: says HI to him, and she tells John that Eddie
- 13:15Speaker 2: loves him and every interaction between between Tamar and John
- 13:19Speaker 2: has been good. Then we see Shannon tells Emily. This
- 13:23Speaker 2: is where Shannon like put on her housewife outfit. She
- 13:26Speaker 2: was like, listen, I'm going to get out of my
- 13:28Speaker 2: own drama and I am going into work today. She's right.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I saw this and tells Gina that Emily is out
- 13:35Speaker 2: of character aggressive. Gina also said Emily is up Tamra's
- 13:39Speaker 2: ass and meaner since hanging out with Tamra, Emily feels
- 13:42Speaker 2: betrayed by Gina since she's not coming to her personally
- 13:45Speaker 2: and talking behind her back. I've been working with Emily
- 13:49Speaker 2: for over a year, and I can confirm she's just
- 13:53Speaker 2: always been an asshole, like lovingly, like in a loving way.
- 13:57Speaker 2: This is her, Okay, either love it or you don't.
- 14:00Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that. I'm I give non
- 14:03Speaker 2: asshole vibes either, Like I love that about her. She's
- 14:08Speaker 2: non apologetic and the things that she says, and but
- 14:11Speaker 2: nothing she says is that damning for the most part.
- 14:15Speaker 3: But I think I really bothered her though when Channon
- 14:18Speaker 3: told her that because she you can see it like
- 14:21Speaker 3: in her face that after she got that information, she
- 14:24Speaker 3: kind of like transformed, and you know, she went back
- 14:26Speaker 3: in the house and it was very visible and they
- 14:28Speaker 3: all noticed that there was something wrong with her.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the problem. I think when you
- 14:32Speaker 2: have a true friendship, it's one thing, when you have
- 14:36Speaker 2: like a real true do I think that Emily thinks
- 14:39Speaker 2: she's best friends with Heather or Shannon. Probably not, But
- 14:42Speaker 2: Afer and Gina are truly that close, and Gina's talking
- 14:47Speaker 2: behind her back about Emily's behavior instead of just going
- 14:51Speaker 2: to Emily, like it's one thing to go if Gina
- 14:53Speaker 2: were to go to Emily and be like, hey, you're
- 14:55Speaker 2: being an asshole. You've repeatedly been an asshole, and normally
- 14:59Speaker 2: I like your asshole behave, but like it's pushed it
- 15:01Speaker 2: and it makes me wonder if everything's going on it
- 15:03Speaker 2: is okay with you.
- 15:04Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's so typical in these friend groups, you know,
- 15:08Speaker 3: to do the behind the scene and you know, talk
- 15:11Speaker 3: behind people's back, which I hate as well, because I'm
- 15:13Speaker 3: very like in your face. If I don't like something,
- 15:15Speaker 3: I tell you in your face. But you know, some
- 15:18Speaker 3: of these women have a problem with that. They like
- 15:20Speaker 3: to do it like, you know, behind your back.
- 15:22Speaker 2: I gotta be really honest. I think that Gina thought
- 15:24Speaker 2: she was going to keep getting that good good at it,
- 15:28Speaker 2: and she was just going to keep being able to
- 15:30Speaker 2: work every situation. And what ended up happening was this
- 15:33Speaker 2: was Gina's first episode, and yes Emily did shitty things,
- 15:38Speaker 2: Yes everybody's done shitty things on the show. But I
- 15:41Speaker 2: think ultimately what Gina was doing, even claiming the situation
- 15:45Speaker 2: with Katie. As we start to get those details. As
- 15:47Speaker 2: that starts to get uncovered, we get to Heather telling
- 15:51Speaker 2: Gina she knows the pop scene, you know.
- 15:53Speaker 3: SUL was a little confusing. Like I watched, and I
- 15:56Speaker 3: watched carefully and I listened very carefully. But it wasn't
- 15:59Speaker 3: thug confusing, you know. I mean they would go from
- 16:01Speaker 3: one house to the other, which was great, But what
- 16:04Speaker 3: I'm trying to say is like the information to me
- 16:06Speaker 3: was a bit confusing.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Okay, So this is a key word that Heather said
- 16:11Speaker 2: that has not repeatedly been said. Throughout the season. They
- 16:14Speaker 2: keep talking about the paparazzi shots with Heather and Terry,
- 16:20Speaker 2: but what they haven't implied is what led up to
- 16:22Speaker 2: those paparazzi shots was that there was a cheating scandal
- 16:25Speaker 2: and those two were breaking up or allegedly breaking up.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Right, But Heather does bring it up and she says
- 16:31Speaker 3: how much that had affected her children.
- 16:33Speaker 2: But then in this episode tonight, she says, hey, you
- 16:38Speaker 2: know this actually really effect I was surprised Heather said
- 16:42Speaker 2: the word cheating. I thought she was going to just
- 16:44Speaker 2: brush over that and continue using pop parazzi as the
- 16:48Speaker 2: reason to be upset. But what she says is no,
- 16:50Speaker 2: this cheating situation, this scandal, this paparazzi, all of this
- 16:56Speaker 2: really affected my family, my kids, my life. And that's
- 17:00Speaker 2: where it started making sense to me, because who gives
- 17:02Speaker 2: a shit if you call pop Arrozzi and you're walking
- 17:06Speaker 2: out of a restaurant. But if pop Rozzi's being whether
- 17:09Speaker 2: it's called or not called, I don't know, but it's
- 17:12Speaker 2: because your marriage is on the rocks and you're showing
- 17:15Speaker 2: a united front. It's I mean, it's giving Marcus and marsa. Ooh, okay,
- 17:24Speaker 2: speaking of can we like go off topic for a second,
- 17:27Speaker 2: did you see those picks? Yes, yes, you can see that,
- 17:34Speaker 2: you know.
- 17:34Speaker 3: I mean, I I feel bad about the whole situation
- 17:37Speaker 3: because it's it has to be very disappointing for his family,
- 17:40Speaker 3: you know, speaking about the family, you know, so it's
- 17:42Speaker 3: not really what the public you know, sees them or
- 17:45Speaker 3: how they portray him. I think it's really disappointing, you know,
- 17:49Speaker 3: as a parent. He has parents, he has siblings, and
- 17:53Speaker 3: he chose to be Yeah, I mean I think that
- 17:56Speaker 3: of course he did. You know. I think his father's
- 17:57Speaker 3: a very private person. But he, on the other hand,
- 18:00Speaker 3: wants to be very public and there's a responsibility that
- 18:02Speaker 3: comes with fame.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Do you think that's actually why they broke up. No,
- 18:07Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, you know, I don't know.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I just feel like, you know, they broke up because,
- 18:11Speaker 3: you know, they both realized that they wanted different things
- 18:14Speaker 3: in life. And you know, Larsa has a very busy life.
- 18:18Speaker 3: You know, she has a family. She's very close to
- 18:20Speaker 3: her family, to her kids, and you know, maybe they
- 18:22Speaker 3: weren't aligned. You know, they figured it out at a
- 18:24Speaker 3: good time. After a year is a good time too, well,
- 18:26Speaker 3: something was like figure it out, something was lined right up.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Yep.
- 18:33Speaker 3: But again, Marcus and Larsa are different because I mean
- 18:36Speaker 3: it was just like a boyfriend girlfriend kind of thing
- 18:38Speaker 3: for a year, you know, Terry and Heather, this is
- 18:41Speaker 3: like this is her marriage and their family, they have children,
- 18:45Speaker 3: you know, and it was you know, drugs are a
- 18:47Speaker 3: little different than obviously cheating, and so yeah, you know,
- 18:53Speaker 3: she really got very sentimental. She even cried. You can
- 18:56Speaker 3: see her pain, and it was, you know, good scene
- 19:00Speaker 3: for her. And I think she needed to open up
- 19:02Speaker 3: like that and talk to Gina like that, so Gina
- 19:04Speaker 3: can really understand, like the root of it and why
- 19:07Speaker 3: she was so hurt, and like you said, it wasn't
- 19:08Speaker 3: really about the properazzi picture, it was what was behind.
- 19:12Speaker 2: But also Gina's time schedule isn't adding up. I don't
- 19:15Speaker 2: think Kate and I.
- 19:16Speaker 3: Always confused about all that. So who do you believe?
- 19:19Speaker 3: Do you believe?
- 19:20Speaker 2: I actually believe Katie in this aspect. I think Katie's
- 19:22Speaker 2: new to the group. She's probably talking to Gina because
- 19:26Speaker 2: that's her in to the to everybody, she's sharing information.
- 19:31Speaker 2: But like ten minutes, two days, three months, it's very
- 19:35Speaker 2: big difference, Like it really is a big gap. So
- 19:42Speaker 2: does it make a difference, though, I do think it
- 19:45Speaker 2: makes a difference if before if three months prior, you know,
- 19:50Speaker 2: Katie had told her this information and Gina was like, yeah,
- 19:54Speaker 2: let's go for it, and like they were going for
- 19:56Speaker 2: it for a whole time, versus you know, Katie calling
- 19:59Speaker 2: her and then Gina ten minutes later going oh my god, no,
- 20:02Speaker 2: don't bring it up. I know I said that ten
- 20:03Speaker 2: minutes ago, But to be scheming and plotting for three months,
- 20:08Speaker 2: so you think that Gina deliberately wanted to do that
- 20:10Speaker 2: to Heather? Then, I mean, like Emily said, Katie wouldn't
- 20:14Speaker 2: have brought it up if it were ten minutes later,
- 20:17Speaker 2: Like if I said, believe that's ten minutest. Like if
- 20:20Speaker 2: I said to you, do me a favor, you know,
- 20:23Speaker 2: like you tell me a story. We talk about it
- 20:26Speaker 2: right now, not on a pod, but just on the phone.
- 20:29Speaker 2: We talk about it. Ten minutes later, you're like, holy shit, Teddy,
- 20:32Speaker 2: I feel like I crossed a line. Please don't say anything.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Don't just don't do it. I would never m h.
- 20:40Speaker 2: But if three months went by and I'd already filmed
- 20:43Speaker 2: and already done it, and then it's too late, y yeah,
- 20:47Speaker 2: two right, like now you're having a conscience now that
- 20:50Speaker 2: it's going to buy you in the ass.
- 20:53Speaker 3: I think I think it was somewhere in between. You know,
- 20:56Speaker 3: it couldn't have been two days, and maybe it wasn't
- 20:58Speaker 3: three months. It was like somewhere in between, and then
- 21:01Speaker 3: it was too late already, you know, the Domiti had
- 21:03Speaker 3: already been done.
- 21:04Speaker 2: I think Gina finally thought she was going to be
- 21:06Speaker 2: able to stir up some shit and then she just
- 21:09Speaker 2: couldn't like land the plane and panicked and pulled out,
- 21:12Speaker 2: and then that's where it ended up happening. But then
- 21:17Speaker 2: Tamra tells Katie that she got set up and questions
- 21:21Speaker 2: Gina's motives, and it's Katie seems pretty like, Okay, what
- 21:29Speaker 2: tam was saying makes sense. Mm hmm, she does. I
- 21:33Speaker 2: got that from her too.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Yeah, And she's like not trusting in Gina now because
- 21:38Speaker 3: she says, you know what, maybe what you're telling me
- 21:40Speaker 3: is the right story and the right version that she
- 21:42Speaker 3: set me up.
- 21:43Speaker 2: And I went for it. I mean, clearly when you
- 21:46Speaker 2: see what Gina's doing to her best friend Emily. But granted,
- 21:49Speaker 2: whatever Emily was doing, even though it was not the
- 21:52Speaker 2: best behavior, she could have just told Emily, but she didn't.
- 21:55Speaker 2: She told she chose to talk behind Emily's back, blindsider
- 21:59Speaker 2: about it. And if I were to read between the lines,
- 22:05Speaker 2: my guess is this idea that Gina has about being
- 22:10Speaker 2: upset with Emily and Tamra's friendship has to do with
- 22:15Speaker 2: you realize that they're both under too teas in a pod.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 22:19Speaker 3: I did realize that, and I thought, maybe Emily, what
- 22:21Speaker 3: about the choice and the girl groups and went on
- 22:24Speaker 3: the trips? Like didn't make sense the groups to you?
- 22:27Speaker 3: Because I thought Emily would be with Tamra.
- 22:30Speaker 2: I think they did that on purpose because they knew
- 22:33Speaker 2: that Gina had talked shit about right Emily first, and
- 22:37Speaker 2: I think production probably chose.
- 22:38Speaker 3: But right yeah, I mean so it can make sense
- 22:41Speaker 3: for what was going on in the groups and make
- 22:43Speaker 3: them uncomfortable and have to talk about it.
- 22:45Speaker 4: Sure. Yeah.
- 22:58Speaker 2: Then Jen thought camera would suggest real estate or a
- 23:02Speaker 2: podcast to make money, but they decided posting feet only.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Fans and I only fans is always like the answer,
- 23:11Speaker 3: right it? Like is it a joker or do people
- 23:13Speaker 3: really think that?
- 23:15Speaker 2: I Mean, here's the thing I think like at this point,
- 23:17Speaker 2: like that that could pay for my big bear house,
- 23:19Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm ready. Are you considering it? You're ready?
- 23:23Speaker 2: I mean, if I had something worth selling on my body,
- 23:27Speaker 2: I think I'd probably do it. But I mean I
- 23:29Speaker 2: don't what would I saw. I'd be like, here are
- 23:31Speaker 2: my nugget hands?
- 23:35Speaker 3: Like, well, there's a market for everyone, I'm telling you,
- 23:38Speaker 3: like it's you just have to find it.
- 23:41Speaker 2: You just have to find it. Well, maybe there's a
- 23:43Speaker 2: market for John Jansen because then Tamer tells Alexis that
- 23:47Speaker 2: she heard from Shannon that John has a big wiener.
- 23:49Speaker 2: Uh huh, Alexis says not to say the S word.
- 23:54Speaker 2: You can't say don't say the S word when you
- 23:56Speaker 2: already said you have s four times a day. It's
- 23:59Speaker 2: act me. My favorite part about Alexis this episode, Like listen,
- 24:05Speaker 2: I've seen the memes and the things, like Alexis is
- 24:09Speaker 2: so just delusional. That's what makes her a good housewife
- 24:12Speaker 2: and it's funny and whatever. I love that when she
- 24:16Speaker 2: said don't say the S word, meaning I thought she
- 24:19Speaker 2: meant sex, but she meant shannis. Well, I was all confused.
- 24:22Speaker 2: I said, shouldn't it be the D word? But because
- 24:25Speaker 2: she's you know, instead of the S word, because that's
- 24:27Speaker 2: what I was thinking.
- 24:28Speaker 3: And then after I also, you know, thought about the
- 24:30Speaker 3: sex thing, and I was like, and wait, why is
- 24:32Speaker 3: even Shannon talking about like her man's penis, Like that's
- 24:35Speaker 3: the stupidest thing. Like I hate when let the girls
- 24:38Speaker 3: talk about that, because I was like, you're so dumby
- 24:40Speaker 3: if you're not with this guy forever and you're talking
- 24:42Speaker 3: about how huge this penis is, Like everybody's gonna want
- 24:45Speaker 3: to like have sex with him, Like even oh my,
- 24:48Speaker 3: I have a.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Question if you heard, because this is where I am
- 24:52Speaker 2: very different, like if so, not me, But there's a
- 24:55Speaker 2: lot of women at Girl. If somebody were to tell
- 24:58Speaker 2: me like, oh my god, my husband, Roger, he has
- 25:02Speaker 2: a giant penis, I wouldn't be like and Roger was
- 25:08Speaker 2: not my type. I wouldn't be like, oh, Roger, I
- 25:11Speaker 2: need to I want to ride you. Like for me,
- 25:14Speaker 2: it takes more than just a big weener.
- 25:18Speaker 3: I know, baby, that's you. But you know how many,
- 25:20Speaker 3: like other women or whatever. I mean, they just I'm
- 25:23Speaker 3: telling you it's happened to my friend, like our real lives.
- 25:26Speaker 3: I've seen it happen, and I'm always like telling my friends,
- 25:29Speaker 3: please do not talk up.
- 25:30Speaker 2: First of all, I don't want to know about it.
- 25:31Speaker 3: And second of all, don't be stupid enough to say
- 25:34Speaker 3: something like that, because you don't know who's listening and
- 25:36Speaker 3: who's gonna want to f your guy after just because
- 25:38Speaker 3: of that or one crazy like drunk night or whatever.
- 25:41Speaker 5: Yeah, well, what about when Katie said Alexis is Badge
- 25:45Speaker 5: needs a break? Yes, that was funny, and then we
- 25:53Speaker 5: continue on.
- 25:55Speaker 2: I was a little bit frustrated when we got through
- 25:57Speaker 2: the Gina and Mlni fight that Gene then Emily never
- 26:01Speaker 2: actually got to have the fight because the guy turned intobody. Heather.
- 26:04Speaker 3: Yeah, it turned into Heather and Gina, and so they
- 26:08Speaker 3: still have something to resolve because obviously nothing happened between them.
- 26:12Speaker 2: No, nothing happened. She wasn't able to get it out.
- 26:15Speaker 2: I can't tell, and I can't really ask Emily. I guess,
- 26:18Speaker 2: but I can't tell. If maybe Emily was maybe a
- 26:21Speaker 2: little tipsy at this point, so she was like the
- 26:24Speaker 2: Emily I know would have just like come for it.
- 26:26Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's because she's so close
- 26:29Speaker 2: with Gina that she was more reserved or she was
- 26:32Speaker 2: just like, I can't deal with this right now.
- 26:35Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, since Heather took over and she
- 26:37Speaker 3: did say it on her confessional, well yeah, you know, Heather,
- 26:39Speaker 3: you know, made it about her, so you know, she
- 26:42Speaker 3: kind of like got a free pass at that moment,
- 26:44Speaker 3: you know, because it's better that way. You know, sometimes
- 26:46Speaker 3: you just can't have two conversations. Yeah, and you know,
- 26:50Speaker 3: conversations like that, deep conversations, you know, when and then it.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Becomes a gang up. Also, everybody's fighting with the same person.
- 27:00Speaker 2: But then we get to this part. Jen questions when
- 27:05Speaker 2: Alexis is going to stop the attacks on Shannon, Alexis
- 27:09Speaker 2: explant she's defending John, whose name was smeared by Shannon. John.
- 27:14Speaker 2: I do think that, and I'm going to give we
- 27:17Speaker 2: did hear this when we were in San Francisco. Alexis's
- 27:20Speaker 2: mom passed away right before filming, so she was going
- 27:26Speaker 2: through a lot. We haven't really heard much about it
- 27:28Speaker 2: on the show. John was there for her. That's I'm
- 27:31Speaker 2: going to give her her fall. That's the wrong reason
- 27:34Speaker 2: to get into our relationship. But I can see it
- 27:36Speaker 2: happening because but they're said vulnerable and the whole thing.
- 27:39Speaker 2: And she did tell us that, Yeah, she did tell
- 27:42Speaker 2: us that they but just because we did.
- 27:43Speaker 3: That, we don't know his real motives though, right, I mean,
- 27:46Speaker 3: you know she wants to say that it's because he's
- 27:48Speaker 3: so kind and he's so loving and he's so perfect.
- 27:51Speaker 3: But is that the real reality? We don't know yet.
- 27:54Speaker 3: Time will tell.
- 27:56Speaker 2: But then Alexi so But then in that same token,
- 27:58Speaker 2: she says, Alexis as she can bring out videos of
- 28:01Speaker 2: Shannon that would ruin her. Tamra says, it's videos of
- 28:05Speaker 2: Shannon the Night of Dui. Alexis says, if Shannon doesn't
- 28:08Speaker 2: stop lying, John will expose the videos. I also want
- 28:11Speaker 2: to point out, but did she come on this show
- 28:13Speaker 2: for this? I mean, did this?
- 28:14Speaker 3: Did Alexis and John Johnny like she calls them calm
- 28:18Speaker 3: on the show, like just for them and to get
- 28:21Speaker 3: their story out.
- 28:22Speaker 2: But I also want to talk about toxic relationships in general.
- 28:27Speaker 2: I can say with one hundred percent certainty, I have
- 28:31Speaker 2: never been in a fight with Edwin, and while we
- 28:36Speaker 2: were arguing, thought to bring out my phone and video him.
- 28:40Speaker 2: It's never gotten to that magnitude where I felt I
- 28:44Speaker 2: needed to capitalize on this proof. I do know couples
- 28:51Speaker 2: that do do that, h and most of the time
- 28:55Speaker 2: it's because it's repeated behavior. We're hearing that he didn't
- 28:58Speaker 2: actually video it. It's ring camera video footage. I don't know.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Regardless of whatever it is that shows that the relationship
- 29:08Speaker 2: is so toxic, let's stop talking about it. I guess
- 29:12Speaker 2: what he'll do.
- 29:13Speaker 3: If he did that with Shannon, he's gonna do it
- 29:15Speaker 3: with Alexis. Also, I mean if if the relationship does
- 29:18Speaker 3: get to that point, because it's probably a pattern that
- 29:20Speaker 3: he has, you know, with all the women that he
- 29:22Speaker 3: needs proof and he has to be defending himself.
- 29:24Speaker 2: But also if a relationship is so inconsequential to you
- 29:29Speaker 2: don't talk about it, Like was my ex husband in
- 29:32Speaker 2: total dream? Yeah? He was great? Did he do anything
- 29:36Speaker 2: stup to me? No? Do I need to talk about him? Well,
- 29:39Speaker 2: you don't have to lie. I mean you don't have
- 29:41Speaker 2: to lie about it either.
- 29:42Speaker 3: No.
- 29:42Speaker 2: But I have no reason to talk about him good
- 29:45Speaker 2: or bad. Oh okay, yeah, but you know what I'm saying, like,
- 29:49Speaker 2: there's no reason for me to ever But this is
- 29:53Speaker 2: like a threat. I mean, this is I saw that
- 29:54Speaker 2: like as a threat.
- 29:55Speaker 3: Well, you know, Shannon, doesn't you know, shut up or
- 29:57Speaker 3: she's not quiet, then you know we're going to bring
- 29:59Speaker 3: out this me that's a threat.
- 30:01Speaker 2: But what are we going to see that she's the worst,
- 30:03Speaker 2: in my opinion, is that she's drunk, she's yelling, she's jealous,
- 30:08Speaker 2: she's upset, and she's sloppy. We already know that, and
- 30:12Speaker 2: she herself has said that. And but then in the
- 30:15Speaker 2: same token we heard last episode Shannon saying I will
- 30:19Speaker 2: prove what John said. My guess is the same. He
- 30:22Speaker 2: was drunk, he was sloppy, he was aggressive. He like
- 30:26Speaker 2: what they're blaming each other for, they both did regardless
- 30:31Speaker 2: and everything both participated and your new relationship be moving on.
- 30:37Speaker 2: That's great, you've had growth. I just I really.
- 30:42Speaker 3: Don't get I really don't understand that either. Like it
- 30:45Speaker 3: really makes me, like makes me aggressive to like watch this.
- 30:49Speaker 3: I was like, how do they even allow this? Like
- 30:51Speaker 3: it's all like who cares? I feel like Alexus is
- 30:53Speaker 3: just there to like bring down Shannon and just to
- 30:57Speaker 3: defend John's name. Nobody cares about John, Like, no, he
- 31:00Speaker 3: was not part of the show. He's not a cast member.
- 31:02Speaker 3: You know, he's not that, he's not relevant. The only
- 31:05Speaker 3: reason why they're talking about him is because Alexis is there.
- 31:07Speaker 3: Because if not, Channon.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Would have just had you to talk about her.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Exactly, but not, you know, nobody wants to, you know,
- 31:14Speaker 3: like I feel like John's becoming like the new Lenny
- 31:16Speaker 3: on the show. Like you know that all we talked,
- 31:17Speaker 3: you know, we talked about and you know, Lisa had
- 31:19Speaker 3: everybod to talk about Lenny because she was going through
- 31:21Speaker 3: it in real time. But she was married to this
- 31:23Speaker 3: man and she had a family with him, like Shannon
- 31:25Speaker 3: was with this guy for three and a half years,
- 31:27Speaker 3: and that's it. I mean, she should be able to
- 31:30Speaker 3: say her story and that's it, I mean, but just
- 31:34Speaker 3: keeps on bringing it up.
- 31:35Speaker 2: Like it's well, it's also sad that it's like, you know,
- 31:37Speaker 2: Alexi's mom has just passed away, and it feels like
- 31:40Speaker 2: she's susceptible to fall hard and fast, and that she
- 31:44Speaker 2: feels like she has to fight John's battles for him.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Like if John wants to fight these battles, come on
- 31:49Speaker 2: the show and film.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Do you think he's using her? I mean, I've even
- 31:52Speaker 3: thought that myself. I was like, why is she his mouthpiece?
- 31:56Speaker 3: Like every scene is like going in to defend John.
- 31:59Speaker 3: John is not part of this, unfortunately. He was a
- 32:01Speaker 3: part of Shannon's life, Okay, And if you want to
- 32:05Speaker 3: ruin your life now, go ahead and do it, But like,
- 32:07Speaker 3: don't give.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Him so much time and energy. That's my point. If
- 32:11Speaker 2: he was in a situation right now, like if this
- 32:14Speaker 2: was something to give Alexis freedom, well, like let's say
- 32:20Speaker 2: Alexis thinks she's going in to share her full life,
- 32:23Speaker 2: her story or whatever, and in the midst of sharing
- 32:26Speaker 2: her entire life, she's also sharing stuff about her relationship
- 32:30Speaker 2: with John. But we're only seeing her relationship with John. No,
- 32:35Speaker 2: and she's and she's really.
- 32:37Speaker 3: Not talking too much about her relationship with John except
- 32:40Speaker 3: that she has sex with him all the time and
- 32:41Speaker 3: how amazing he is.
- 32:42Speaker 2: That's all she says.
- 32:44Speaker 3: But all the other conversations are about how crazy Shannon
- 32:48Speaker 3: is and how about John and Shannon's relationship. She's really
- 32:51Speaker 3: not talking so much about her own relationship.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Do you think she has a disadvantage because she's a
- 32:55Speaker 2: friend of.
- 32:56Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think that she has
- 33:00Speaker 3: She has a big presence and we can already see that.
- 33:02Speaker 3: We've seen her in every episode except episode four.
- 33:05Speaker 2: I think the fact that she can walk down the
- 33:07Speaker 2: stairs and not even notice that Jen and Katie are
- 33:10Speaker 2: standing there, Yeah, that's concerning. Maybe that's why she can
- 33:15Speaker 2: be with this man.
- 33:16Speaker 3: She's not aware, you know, and unfortun I mean, I
- 33:19Speaker 3: think she's a good person, you know.
- 33:20Speaker 2: I think she's a good girl. I think she's a
- 33:22Speaker 2: good one.
- 33:22Speaker 3: You know. I think she's a good person. But she's
- 33:24Speaker 3: just like caught up in this craziness. You know, people
- 33:28Speaker 3: with this man.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Want love and want that like feeling more than they
- 33:33Speaker 2: want reality.
- 33:34Speaker 3: And and you know what, when it's so good like
- 33:36Speaker 3: that in the beginning, like Run for the Hills, yeah,
- 33:39Speaker 3: because it's just like not like normal.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Straight let's hope, let's hope for them that their relationship
- 33:46Speaker 2: gets better and they stop focusing on Shannon.
- 33:49Speaker 3: And I really do hope so because I honestly, it's
- 33:52Speaker 3: really hard for me to watch because it's like this
- 33:53Speaker 3: is like the whole thing is about this, Like I'm
- 33:56Speaker 3: not enjoying it.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're having fun moment and it's like why
- 34:00Speaker 2: they're in Big Bear, why they're going down the slopes,
- 34:03Speaker 2: why they're doing this, like even while they were cooking,
- 34:06Speaker 2: and how they're trying to get cut open the pineapple.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Like there are moments where you're like, gosh, I get
- 34:10Speaker 2: why all these ladies are friends. Katie I thought had
- 34:13Speaker 2: a good episode. Gina clearly did not, but like everybody
- 34:17Speaker 2: had moments where I was like, oh I like them,
- 34:19Speaker 2: mm hmm. And I could relate to each person for
- 34:23Speaker 2: the most part. But that's where it was a little
- 34:27Speaker 2: tough for me at the end. But we're not gonna listen,
- 34:29Speaker 2: We're not gonna pummel, We're not gonna pummel Alexis anymore.
- 34:34Speaker 2: But let's see, I don't know about her too much,
- 34:39Speaker 2: but I mean, maybe that's what she wants, but also,
- 34:42Speaker 2: I don't know how many more episodes? What episode are
- 34:44Speaker 2: we on? Episode six? We just finished watching six, so
- 34:47Speaker 2: we finished watching six. How many episodes do they have?
- 34:50Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you that. I what I heard
- 34:53Speaker 2: was they're potentially gonna have eighteen episodes. But I mean,
- 34:56Speaker 2: everything changes, okay, But Alexis is not show I own
- 35:00Speaker 2: in any pictures on the cast trip, So my guess, oh,
- 35:04Speaker 2: thank god, no Alexis and John.
- 35:06Speaker 3: I mean, I like Alexis, but because only John comes
- 35:08Speaker 3: out of her mouth, I'm like, I'm not interested.
- 35:11Speaker 2: I mean, I guess she'll probably be at the Sonoma
- 35:13Speaker 2: cast trip, but I don't think she goes to I
- 35:16Speaker 2: forget where they went, London, somewhere like that, but I
- 35:21Speaker 2: poor for four. It's a lot, and we're hooked. So
- 35:24Speaker 2: thank you, guys. Yes, thanks for tuning in for another episode,
- 35:28Speaker 2: and it was good talking to you this week. I'll
- 35:30Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Bye Teddy, Bye, guys, thanks for listening.
- 35:35Speaker 4: Bye