Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Trump ‘trying to protect a bunch of rich and powerful friends, billionaires’
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And I'm joined now by a Republican Congressman, Thomas Massey
- 0:02Speaker 1: of Kentucky, who led the effort to release the Epstein files.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Congressman Masse, thank you for being here. President Trump fought
- 0:10Speaker 1: long and hard to prevent your discharge petition from going through.
- 0:14Speaker 1: You won that battle. Now what happens how many Republicans
- 0:19Speaker 1: in the House follow your lead and defy the President
- 0:22Speaker 1: on this.
- 0:25Speaker 2: I think we could have a deluge of Republicans. There
- 0:27Speaker 2: could be one hundred or more. I'm hoping to get
- 0:29Speaker 2: a veto proof majority on this legislation when it comes
- 0:33Speaker 2: up for a vote. And the President's been saying this
- 0:36Speaker 2: is a hoax. He's been saying that for months. Well,
- 0:39Speaker 2: he's just now decided to investigate a hoax. If it's
- 0:43Speaker 2: a hoax. And I have another concern about these investigations
- 0:46Speaker 2: that he's announced. If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas,
- 0:51Speaker 2: those documents can't be released. So this might be a
- 0:54Speaker 2: big smoke screen these investigations to open a bunch of
- 0:57Speaker 2: them to as a last ditch effort to prevent the
- 1:00Speaker 2: release of the Epstein files.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I mean, it is extraordinary to hear him demand an
- 1:04Speaker 1: investigation and only mentioned democrats, only mentioned his political opponents.
- 1:10Speaker 1: But you're saying he doesn't really may not really even
- 1:13Speaker 1: want any investigation. He wants to prevent the release. Why
- 1:15Speaker 1: does he want to prevent this? What is he what
- 1:18Speaker 1: is he afraid of?
- 1:21Speaker 2: You know, I've never said that these files will implicate
- 1:24Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and I really don't think that they will.
- 1:27Speaker 2: I think he's trying to protect a bunch of rich
- 1:29Speaker 2: and powerful friends, billionaires, donors to his campaign, friends in
- 1:34Speaker 2: his social circles. And that's my operating theory on why
- 1:39Speaker 2: he's trying so hard to keep these files closed.
- 1:42Speaker 1: What do you think is actually in these files? I mean,
- 1:44Speaker 1: we've seen so much Ebstein material from the criminal cases,
- 1:49Speaker 1: the stuff that just came out this week, you know,
- 1:51Speaker 1: from the estate. What do you think is left?
- 1:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have to guess at what's in the files.
- 1:58Speaker 2: I've talked to the survivors their lawyer, and we know
- 2:01Speaker 2: there are at least twenty people in those files. There
- 2:04Speaker 2: are politicians, billionaires, movie producers who are implicated criminally who
- 2:10Speaker 2: haven't been investigated. And it's up to the FBI, not
- 2:13Speaker 2: the survivors, and the DOJ, to release those names. Or
- 2:17Speaker 2: at least to investigate them. And when I see Donald
- 2:20Speaker 2: Trump announce a bunch of investigations, I don't see him
- 2:23Speaker 2: going after these rich elites that are implicated in these files.
- 2:28Speaker 2: According to the survivors, the.
- 2:30Speaker 1: President has gone after you in some deeply personal ways.
- 2:33Speaker 1: I mean, attacking you over and over again, even attacking
- 2:38Speaker 1: you for regarding your wedding, your recent wedding, which, by
- 2:42Speaker 1: the way, congratulations. What do you make of all that?
- 2:45Speaker 1: And he's obviously supporting your primary opponents. I mean, what
- 2:50Speaker 1: kind of retribution are you facing.
- 2:54Speaker 2: You know, my wife's told me, she said, I told
- 2:56Speaker 2: you so we should have invited Donald Trump. He's mad
- 2:59Speaker 2: that he didn't get an invitation. So you know, we're
- 3:03Speaker 2: taking it with the grain of salt. He's being a
- 3:05Speaker 2: bully or trying to be a bully, and they're trying
- 3:08Speaker 2: to beat me here in Kentucky. But here's what's interesting.
- 3:11Speaker 2: The people financing this campaign consists completely of three billionaires,
- 3:16Speaker 2: and they're all in the Epstein class. In fact, one
- 3:18Speaker 2: of them is named in Epstein's phone book. Not the
- 3:21Speaker 2: secret files at the FBI is keeping, but in Epstein's
- 3:24Speaker 2: phone book. So it's a small world. Dogs don't bark
- 3:29Speaker 2: at parked cars. And we are winning. I'm not tired
- 3:32Speaker 2: of winning yet, but we're winning. And not only the Speaker,
- 3:36Speaker 2: but the Attorney General, the FBI director, and the President
- 3:41Speaker 2: himself and the Vice president. They're taking a big loss
- 3:44Speaker 2: this week because after months of fighting, I am winning
- 3:47Speaker 2: this week with Rocanna. We're forcing this vote and it's
- 3:50Speaker 2: going to happen. I would remind my Republican colleagues who
- 3:53Speaker 2: are deciding how to vote, Donald Trump can protect you
- 3:56Speaker 2: in red districts right now by giving you an endorsement.
- 3:59Speaker 2: In twenty thirty, he's not going to be the president,
- 4:02Speaker 2: and you will have voted to protect pedophiles. If you
- 4:06Speaker 2: don't vote to release these files and the president can't
- 4:08Speaker 2: protect you, then this vote, the record of this vote
- 4:12Speaker 2: will last longer than Donald Trump's presidency.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Now. I've talked to Senate leadership who tell me that
- 4:19Speaker 1: this is almost certainly not even going to be brought
- 4:21Speaker 1: up for a vote in the Senate. What's your sense
- 4:25Speaker 1: on that? I mean, I guess if there's an overwhelming
- 4:27Speaker 1: vote of you, like you said, one hundred Republicans join
- 4:30Speaker 1: all the Democrats, the pressure will be immense. But do
- 4:33Speaker 1: you have any sense the Senate's even going to vote
- 4:34Speaker 1: on this.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Well, they don't have the procedural maneuver that Rocanna and
- 4:40Speaker 2: I used in the House. They don't have that in
- 4:42Speaker 2: the Senate. It's called a discharge petition. But the Senators
- 4:45Speaker 2: do have other ways to force votes as amendments, for instance,
- 4:48Speaker 2: on larger bills, in order to let bills move quicker
- 4:52Speaker 2: through the chamber, so they could force the vote in
- 4:55Speaker 2: spite of the leadership's efforts. I just hope John Thune
- 4:58Speaker 2: will do the right thing. Look, our own speaker tried
- 5:02Speaker 2: to push this bill by unanimous consent last week within
- 5:05Speaker 2: fifteen minutes of me getting the two hundred and eighteenth vote,
- 5:08Speaker 2: because he was trying to save people from a vote.
- 5:11Speaker 2: If he's ready to pass it by unanimous consent, then
- 5:13Speaker 2: the Senate leader should be as well. Just bring it up.
- 5:17Speaker 2: But the pressure is going to be there if we
- 5:18Speaker 2: get a big vote in the House.
- 5:20Speaker 1: All right, Congressman Toms Massey, thank you for joining us
- 5:23Speaker 1: this morning.