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Legendary Sportswriter Barry Bloom · Motor City Mad Mouth

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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday everybody. We don't care about Thursday night football.
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Speaker 1: We have a great show lined up, the MotorCity Man Mouse.
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Speaker 1: So what the Boomer Boomer Boomer and a MotorCity Mad
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Speaker 1: Mouse show don't get any better than this Thursday night.
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Speaker 1: He used to be joined by my longtime colleague Barry Bloom.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being on, Barry. All we wanted to. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: now we've made it work, and so I'm glad to
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Speaker 1: have a get ready for a great show. This is
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Speaker 1: gonna be a wild show with the Bomber. Thanks Scott,
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Speaker 1: thank you. All right. Anyways, Barry, let's talk about your career.
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Speaker 1: I know you've been in it a while. Glad to
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Speaker 1: go ahead and see Siberuski in the room. But let's
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Speaker 1: talk about your career. I know you've covered a lot
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Speaker 1: of major sports, so let's talk about some of your
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Speaker 1: biggest moments and the sports that you've enjoyed. I know
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Speaker 1: you've had a lot of them.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, I was thinking about, you know,
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Speaker 2: the top five or so World Series that I covered recently,
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Speaker 2: But as far as baseball game is concerned, I would
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Speaker 2: still say the Bucky Dent game at Fenway in nineteen
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Speaker 2: seventy eight was still the best single baseball game I've
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Speaker 2: ever covered. It was just an credible game with an
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Speaker 2: incredible amount of pathos. And I mean to show you
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Speaker 2: how crazy was. I mean, I'm a lifelong Yankee fan,
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Speaker 2: and I was sitting in the front row of Fenway
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Speaker 2: Park for that game, and I'm like silently rooting for
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Speaker 2: the Yankees, and you have all the stuff that's going
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Speaker 2: on in that game, and so it ends with a
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Speaker 2: foul pop by a Strumsky. And I always kid Guscasig
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Speaker 2: about this. You know, he came in the seventh inning
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Speaker 2: to save the seventh inning for Gidry, and then he
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Speaker 2: had to save the eighth inning and the ninth inning
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Speaker 2: for himself, which is johnheard of. It would never happen
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Speaker 2: in today's game, even with the three batter rule. You
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Speaker 2: need like a nine batter rule to do something like that.
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Speaker 2: But during the COVID, and they were playing when baseball
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Speaker 2: was down for those months, and everybody was playing the
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Speaker 2: replays of the great games. You know, I've just refused
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Speaker 2: to watch them, except one day I found the Yankee
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Speaker 2: Red Sox game, the Yankee telecast of the Yankee Red
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Speaker 2: Sock game. So I go, okay, I'm going to watch
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Speaker 2: the Bucky Dent game. And I turned on just you know,
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Speaker 2: as as Den hit the home run, and you know,
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Speaker 2: Phil Rizzuto, which I don't even remember. I was watching
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Speaker 2: the gate, wasn't watching the game on Telligsion, but I
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Speaker 2: didn't know that. You know, Frank Messer and Phil Rizzuto
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Speaker 2: are doing the game, and Phil Rizzuto went to the
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Speaker 2: bathroom in the seventh in between you know, the bottom
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Speaker 2: of the sixth and the top of the seventh, and
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Speaker 2: Messer was calling the game alone in the booth, and
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Speaker 2: but then hits the home run and Rissutto is not
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Speaker 2: even there. He gets back into the booth and he
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Speaker 2: tells the story about him running back from the bathroom
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Speaker 2: and missing missing one of the greatest moments in Yankee history,
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Speaker 2: and running into Frank Malzone, a former Red Sox, and
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Speaker 2: busting his chops about the bucket Denholmer before he gets
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Speaker 2: back into the booth. So I'm just watching this game,
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Speaker 2: and I know exactly what's happening in that game. I
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Speaker 2: could give you a chapter and verse of the eighth
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Speaker 2: and ninth inning, and then I'm just as nervous watching
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Speaker 2: the replay of this game as I was that day
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Speaker 2: when I was actually watching the live game. That's how
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Speaker 2: crazy that game was. So that's my number one. My
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Speaker 2: number two was Game seven, nineteen eight ninety four Madison
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Speaker 2: Square Garden Rangers and Canucks. The Rangers are going to
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Speaker 2: the third period. They haven't won the Cup since nineteen forty.
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Speaker 2: You know, all my life I'm waiting for the Rangers
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Speaker 2: to win the Stanley Cup. I'm covering the game for
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Speaker 2: Sport magazine and writing a magazine article on the Rangers.
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Speaker 2: And that game, the thing goes into the third period.
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Speaker 2: The Rangers have a three to one lead, and you know,
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Speaker 2: they make it three to two. They go into the
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Speaker 2: last few minutes and the Canucks hit the post like
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Speaker 2: twice and their yank Rangers are hanging on for dear life,
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Speaker 2: and they get an icing call with like two seconds
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Speaker 2: to go, and Pavel Brewery has to face off against
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Speaker 2: I don't even remember who faced off for the Rangers.
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Speaker 2: I don't think it was messier, but they were. Rangers
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Speaker 2: won the face off in front of Richter. It was
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Speaker 2: flipped back over the blue line and the Rangers won
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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup. That was probably the greatest moment of
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Speaker 2: my sports life. So those two would be even to
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Speaker 2: this day as many great moments and milestone things that
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Speaker 2: I've covered. Look, I covered Pete's hit to beat Cobb,
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Speaker 2: Barry's home run to beat Aaron Hersheiser's consecutive game street
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Speaker 2: to beat Drysdale Ripkin, passing Garrett on the all time
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Speaker 2: consecutive game played list. And you know, five hundred homer
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Speaker 2: and six hundred homer and three thousand, three hundred wins.
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Speaker 2: I've covered four home runs in a game. I've covered
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Speaker 2: just about everything except a perfect game. So I mean,
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Speaker 2: I've a couple of no hitters, So I mean I've
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Speaker 2: had really a blessed career and a blessed life.
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Speaker 1: You know, what Mark Mascier did with the Rangers is
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Speaker 1: just unbelievable. One thing to win in Edmonton, would they
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Speaker 1: able to be the captain of a team like him.
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Speaker 1: I had Neil Smith on actually a few weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: and he talks about what they had to do to
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Speaker 1: build that team, But will you bring in a guy
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Speaker 1: like Mark Messier? One thing when he did out in Edmonton,
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Speaker 1: would to be able to do it on his own
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Speaker 1: with his own team, so to speak? In New York
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Speaker 1: and the Big Apple to me is just called anti climactic.
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Speaker 2: Well it was. I don't think it was anti climactic.
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Speaker 2: I think it was. Really it was super climactic. I
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Speaker 2: remember Messi won his last Cup with the Oilers after
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Speaker 2: Gretzky was traded to the Kings, So this wasn't new
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Speaker 2: to him. And yeah, he didn't have the supporting cast
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Speaker 2: of great players that he had, you know, Paul Coffee
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Speaker 2: and all those guys that he had with the Rangers.
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Speaker 2: But he had you know, Leech and Richter and Adam
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Speaker 2: Graves was brought in there. A lot of old Edmonton
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Speaker 2: guys were brought in on that team along with Messier,
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Speaker 2: and they, you know, every move they made and bringing
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Speaker 2: in Mike Keenan to coach the team for the year him,
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Speaker 2: were at each other's throats and Keenan walked down on
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Speaker 2: the team after he won the Cup. It's like every
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Speaker 2: move they made to them winning the cup because you know,
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Speaker 2: they they survived, you know, Game seven against the Devils
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Speaker 2: in the Garden and overtime, double overtime, you know, uh,
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Speaker 2: you know how he Roses called mate mate Matteau and
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Speaker 2: then Game seven at the Garden, you know against the Canucks,
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Speaker 2: who are a very good team. You know, they need
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Speaker 2: every every move they made they had to make to
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Speaker 2: win that Cup. And here we are so many years
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Speaker 2: later and they've only been back to the finals once.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that speaks volume. You think about.
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Speaker 2: The Panthers and the Lightning have won more Cups than
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Speaker 2: the Rangers.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Garry talk. That's a good point is you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about Messia. They don't want to talk about
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Speaker 1: the Panthers in the Lightning because I know Joshua Doors
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Speaker 1: in the chat room and he's a big hockey guy.
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Speaker 1: Even mentions in the chat that Keith Chuck is actually
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Speaker 1: on college game day in Miami for the Hurricanes in
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Speaker 1: the Gators this weekend. I'll actually we'll be a tick
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Speaker 1: tam on.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kit Chuck's uh like a kid of the
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Speaker 2: guy who was on the Rangers. That was his father.
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Speaker 2: He played center for the Rangers.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, there you go, so yeah, when you so.
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Speaker 1: But that's a great comparison, it really is. Mark Messi
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Speaker 1: is all those kinds of guy. You're right, whether you
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Speaker 1: have gres or you don't, the impact of him in
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Speaker 1: the dressing room and on the ice is just very
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Speaker 1: really strong and impactful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like Jeter with the Yankees. These captains, the
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Speaker 2: guys who just go to guys. You know, all they
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Speaker 2: do is win. You know, they just know what it's
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Speaker 2: like to pull a team together and win. You know,
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Speaker 2: a MESSI was one of the Jeter's one of them.
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Speaker 2: I think Judges another one right now. You know that.
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Speaker 2: And you know that's a nice thing about hockey. I mean,
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Speaker 2: hockey traditionally every team has a captain, and baseball it
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Speaker 2: very rarely happened. I mean, the Yankees have had you know,
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Speaker 2: three or three or four of them going back to
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Speaker 2: to Gary. You know, Munson was one of them. Then
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Speaker 2: they didn't have another one after Munson died until Jeter,
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Speaker 2: and they didn't have another one after Jeeter left until Judge.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, but in baseball, you know,
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Speaker 2: Buster Posey was the captain of the Giants when they
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Speaker 2: won the three championships. And I always asked Boachie why
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Speaker 2: you didn't name him captain? And Butch you would all
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Speaker 2: went to this day. If I bust bochis you know
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Speaker 2: balls about it? He Bakazilli will tell me we need
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Speaker 2: a captain. I go, yeah, of course, you needed your captain.
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Speaker 2: You had Posey give me a break.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So let me ask you. You talk about hockey
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Speaker 1: in the late Sunshine State, and so it's a good point.
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Speaker 1: The Florida Panther has been a good run the last
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Speaker 1: couple Stanley Kuffe won two in a row, the Lightning
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Speaker 1: you have done well. Are you surprised that hockey is
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Speaker 1: succeeded as much as it had here in the Sunshine State?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is, you know, a story I've been wanting
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Speaker 2: to do for a while. The comparative nature of how
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Speaker 2: successful hockey has been in the state in comparison to
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Speaker 2: baseball with the Latin population in Florida is mind boggling
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Speaker 2: to me. I mean, the last what is it, five
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Speaker 2: out of the last six years, either the Panthers or
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Speaker 2: the Lightning have been in the Stanley Cup Finals. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and they've won. The only year the Lightning lost to
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Speaker 2: the Avalanche. So I mean they won three in a row.
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Speaker 2: Now the Panthers have won to in a row. They
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Speaker 2: get huge crowds, They outdraw both baseball teams in their arenas,
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Speaker 2: and the baseball teams just don't draw. And the you know,
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Speaker 2: the Raser are not a bad team. The Racer are
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Speaker 2: a fun team and they always are competitive. And you've
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Speaker 2: got a beautiful ballpark in Miami. For the lights of me.
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Speaker 2: I know, people don't want to take the trip down
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Speaker 2: and into Miami, you know, along the traffic carters to
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Speaker 2: go to that game. But to me, it's a great ballpark.
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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place to watch a game. That team
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Speaker 2: is like four and a half games out of the
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Speaker 2: wild Card right now. They came back from nowhere. They're
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Speaker 2: like seven or eight games under five hundred after a
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Speaker 2: terrible start. And what the race of had to go
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Speaker 2: through this season playing at Steinburner Field because the roof
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Speaker 2: blew up the trap. It's amazing that we were able
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Speaker 2: to accomplish this year. You know, they were even the
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Speaker 2: old card race and they're still on the fringes of
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Speaker 2: it despite playing an entire season basically on the road. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't know why it doesn't have any traction. I
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Speaker 2: understand why. Hockey does. I mean hockey, it's a you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a fun sport. They put a lot of money
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Speaker 2: into it, they've had success, they've got good arenas. They
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Speaker 2: you know, there's they were smart to move the Panthers
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Speaker 2: were smart to move out of out of downtown Miami
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Speaker 2: to the burbs where they are. They've got a fast
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Speaker 2: fan base up there, and you know, and you know Tampa.
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Speaker 2: The Tampa team is on the Tampa side of the Bay.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's not playing in Saint Petersburg. So, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a secret why they're better, but
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Speaker 2: it just is amazing to me that they've just gone
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Speaker 2: absolutely bunkers over hockey in Florida as opposed to you know, baseball,
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Speaker 2: which is really kind of a native sport.
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Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind, though the Panthers have been to
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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final three years in a row. There
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Speaker 1: lots of Vegas and then they won active back, So
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Speaker 1: I guess that further enhances what you're talking about, that
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Speaker 1: they've done well the stadiums in the respective areas. You're right,
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Speaker 1: the Florida Panthers got it right in Sunrise and Tampa.
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Speaker 1: I've been to that arena as well. They did a
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Speaker 1: good job with their downtown area for sure. I think
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Speaker 1: that the Rays will probably get to this a little bet.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be fine when they move to the Tampa area.
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Speaker 1: Because I am a graduate for your South Florida. I've
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Speaker 1: always met the baseball should we played in Hillsborough Counity
13:04
Speaker 1: now by now that's something we'll get to a little bet.
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Speaker 1: So there's no question. And you're right, well, do you
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Speaker 1: pull park at a beautifootball park? Is I've worked out
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Speaker 1: of that date in the last so many years, and
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Speaker 1: it really is a great place. Let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: one big headlines of the day today, and that's Clayton
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Speaker 1: Kershaw retiring. You know, why don't you give us some
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Speaker 1: of your best recollections about Clayton Kershaw and talk about
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Speaker 1: his career.
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Speaker 2: Well, there was a while there where you know, Kershaw's
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Speaker 2: got what two hundred and twenty wins something like that
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Speaker 2: at this point, and there was a while there where
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Speaker 2: he was below two hundred where I a column years
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Speaker 2: ago that Kershaw I'm not sure whether I would vote
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Speaker 2: for him on the first ballot of the Hall of Fame. Now,
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Speaker 2: considering the way peaching is devolved, there's no question all
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Speaker 2: about vote from the first ballot of the Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 2: You know, he he's a horrible He's been a horrible
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Speaker 2: you know, postseason pitcher for them, which is part of
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Speaker 2: the problem. You know, if there was mostly ever a
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Speaker 2: big game in the postseason, kersher would cough it up right. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, and when you look at great pictures, they're
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Speaker 2: at their best in the playoffs. You know, Kurt Schilling
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Speaker 2: was at his best in the playoffs, Whitey Ford at
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Speaker 2: his best in the World Series, Randy Johnson at his
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Speaker 2: best in the World Series. You know, the only guys
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Speaker 2: like Pedro and you know, Kershaw not. But then you
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Speaker 2: look at the overall body of the work and his
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Speaker 2: overall era, his strikeouts. You know, when he went over
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Speaker 2: three thousand, that kind of cemented it. And I was
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Speaker 2: in La for the game where he recorded three thousand,
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Speaker 2: and he had just come back and he looked to
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Speaker 2: me like he had absolutely nothing left. He could barely
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Speaker 2: get the ball over the player. I think there was
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Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty pitches that were fouled off on a
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Speaker 2: two strike count, and he basically came down to his
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Speaker 2: last battern of the sixth inning and his one hundredth
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Speaker 2: pitch to strike out make and recorded his three thousands
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Speaker 2: against the White Sox before he hit that was his
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Speaker 2: last pitch of the game and he got recorded to
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Speaker 2: three thousand. It was an incredible The whole scene was incredible,
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Speaker 2: and to be there to see him do it that
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Speaker 2: pushed me over and then he just shot me by.
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Speaker 2: He's had a really great comeback second half of the season.
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Speaker 2: Since he's back. It wasn't like, hey, I thought, you know,
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Speaker 2: wrap it up here and retire. You got your three
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Speaker 2: thousand and you can't pitch anymore. Then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: he's pitching and regularly winning games. I think he's won
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Speaker 2: seven or eight games, and they announced his last home
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Speaker 2: home regular season game is tomorrow. I do not see
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Speaker 2: him starting in the postseason for the Dodgers. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, they've got Yamamoto and Snell their top two pitches.
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Speaker 2: If they go to a wild cart series, that's got
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Speaker 2: to be the first two starters. They've got to. Like shit,
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Speaker 2: can o'tani for the postseason? Somebody said about him going
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Speaker 2: into the bullpen. You can't put him in the bullpen.
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Speaker 2: That's totally impractical. When he's a designated hitter. How do
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Speaker 2: you get him out to the bullpen to warm up
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Speaker 2: in any sort of situation when he has to come
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Speaker 2: up to bat at any point in time, So you
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Speaker 2: send him out to the bullpen. His spot is like
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Speaker 2: the ninth up and then all of a sudden, the
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Speaker 2: Dodgers reel off eight in a row. What are you
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Speaker 2: going to do? Run him through the tunnels to get
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Speaker 2: him up to hit. It's not gonna work. So I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think it was a stupid experiment for bringing him
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Speaker 2: back to pitch. He's proven that he can do it.
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Speaker 2: He had the no hit five innings the other day.
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Speaker 2: Leave it alone now for the rest of the postseason.
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Speaker 2: But I think the Dodgers have, you know, those two guys,
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Speaker 2: they've got class now, you know they're They've got enough
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Speaker 2: starters where Kershaw would be probably a fort starter somewhere,
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Speaker 2: you know, if they went into a seven game series
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Speaker 2: and they needed a fourth starter. So I think that's
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Speaker 2: the only in the in the in the NLCS that
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Speaker 2: would probably be for the World Series as a number
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Speaker 2: four starter, that might be the only place you'll see
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Speaker 2: Kershaw pitch. And by the time you get to that,
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Speaker 2: there'll be such a gap between his last start, which
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Speaker 2: I think is next week on the road, and when
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Speaker 2: he would pitch again in the postseason. It's hard to
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Speaker 2: start him again unless you use him in a in
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Speaker 2: a in a middle inning relief situation, if one of
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Speaker 2: your starters gets knocked out early, what you could do.
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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, tremendous pitcher, tremendous guy. I
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Speaker 2: would Dodger history as much as I you know, I
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Speaker 2: saw Sandy Kopeck when I was a kid. A lot
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Speaker 2: of people will compare Sandy because they're both left handers.
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Speaker 2: But Sandy had only six great in it, say, six
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Speaker 2: great seasons. Kershaw's had eighteen seasons. He's the best left
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Speaker 2: handed pitcher and maybe the best picture in Dodger history.
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Speaker 2: So I think when he goes there'll be a lot
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Speaker 2: to basically, you know, for him to have accolades about
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Speaker 2: both on the national level and for the Dodgers. He's
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Speaker 2: one of the Dodger old timers.
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Speaker 1: You talked about Kurt Shilling, what prevents him from getting in.
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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame. Yeah, I just think it was
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Speaker 2: one of those things with his politics. He just would
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Speaker 2: never shut up. And his regular season records are not stellar.
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Speaker 2: They're kind of like in that range with Kershaw. And
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Speaker 2: the thing that throws him over is that you know,
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Speaker 2: he was like ten and four or something in the postseason,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and I think he got close in
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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame vote. And I know him and
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Speaker 2: I've talked to him at times about it, and I've
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Speaker 2: told him, I told him at the time, you know,
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Speaker 2: shut up. You know he complained about He said, I
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Speaker 2: didn't get into the Hall of Fame because the liberal
19:13
Speaker 2: sports writers wouldn't vote me in. And I go, you
19:17
Speaker 2: dumb ass, I'm a liberal and I voted for you.
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Speaker 2: You don't even know what you're talking about. Why don't
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Speaker 2: you shut up and stop alienating half the people who
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Speaker 2: are going to vote for you. Can you do that?
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Speaker 2: Can you keep client? And he told me, I'm not
19:29
Speaker 2: going to do that. Okay, well then you're not going
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Speaker 2: to get into the Hall of Fame. And that's what
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Speaker 2: happened to him. And now when when he's in the
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Speaker 2: Veterans Committee, he's not going to get twelve votes by
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Speaker 2: by out of sixteen out of that group to get
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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. So he basically he's done.
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Speaker 1: Oh it's incredible. We'll talk about another guy who's actually
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Speaker 1: aging well, justin Verlander. You know, for a while he
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Speaker 1: got off those slow start, but he's starting to pitch
19:53
Speaker 1: much better and he's looking is there a chance he
19:55
Speaker 1: could probably play somewhere, And I said, well, are you
19:57
Speaker 1: talking about what going on with Justin?
20:01
Speaker 2: I just saw him here. He pitched against the Diamondbacks
20:04
Speaker 2: yesterday and he pitched seven innings of like three hit ball,
20:08
Speaker 2: no runs, three strikeouts, a couple of walks. Unfortunately, which
20:13
Speaker 2: has been his predicament all season. You know, Brandon Fought
20:17
Speaker 2: practically pitched a no hitter. Now, the Diamondbacks never pitch
20:20
Speaker 2: a guy into the ninth inning. They haven't had a
20:23
Speaker 2: complete game in three hundred and thirty four straight games.
20:27
Speaker 2: And he went into the ninth inning and the poor
20:29
Speaker 2: guy left with a one hitter and brilin the left
20:33
Speaker 2: after seven. And this is just what he's run into
20:35
Speaker 2: with the Giants because the Giants don't have they're a streaky,
20:40
Speaker 2: streaky hitting team, and they haven't really hit behind him.
20:43
Speaker 2: Even earlier in the season, he had an injury, struggled
20:46
Speaker 2: a little bit, but every time he'd go five or
20:49
Speaker 2: six innings and hand the ball to the bullpen, he'd
20:52
Speaker 2: leave the leading two to one and the bullpen would
20:54
Speaker 2: blow the game. So it's just been that kind of
20:56
Speaker 2: season for him, you know, I know, because I've written
20:58
Speaker 2: the story enough that he would love to get to
21:02
Speaker 2: three hundred. He went into the season at two sixty
21:05
Speaker 2: two because of his hard luck. This year, he's got
21:08
Speaker 2: two sixty five. He might have another start, maybe two left.
21:12
Speaker 2: So he's going to go into next season still needing
21:15
Speaker 2: like thirty five wins to get to three hundred. He's
21:18
Speaker 2: forty two. Is it possible? Sure, but he can't have
21:21
Speaker 2: another season like this one? And yeah, he said yesterday,
21:24
Speaker 2: I asked him, do you want to come back? And
21:26
Speaker 2: he goes, well, sure, he goes, well, you know, what
21:30
Speaker 2: about here or where else? And he goes, I don't know,
21:33
Speaker 2: you know, he god, well, unfortunately, it's not up to you.
21:36
Speaker 2: What do you mean it's not to me. Yeah, somebody's
21:38
Speaker 2: got to offer you a contract, and I think somebody
21:40
Speaker 2: will love for him a contract. But I think it
21:43
Speaker 2: would be crazy to go back to the Giants. I
21:45
Speaker 2: think the Giants are crazy to resign them. You know,
21:47
Speaker 2: why would you go through all that again?
21:49
Speaker 1: You know?
21:50
Speaker 2: But I think if I were if I were the Yankees,
21:53
Speaker 2: i'd sign them. If I were the Astros, I'd resign them.
21:56
Speaker 2: If I were the Dodgers, I might pick him up.
21:59
Speaker 2: Even the padres per year, you know, for twelve or thirteen,
22:02
Speaker 2: which is he made this year. So yeah, he's one
22:05
Speaker 2: of the old timers for me. And of all the
22:08
Speaker 2: pitchers who are going to come up, and then starting
22:11
Speaker 2: pitchers are going to come up in this era with
22:13
Speaker 2: all of fame credentials, there's only a few. Him, sure
22:17
Speaker 2: Zer and Kershaw are the three. Kershaw should be the
22:20
Speaker 2: first up because the other two is still pitching. You know.
22:25
Speaker 2: Erlanders is a slam dunk first ballot guy.
22:29
Speaker 1: Great stuff. Well, great segue too. So do you see
22:32
Speaker 1: any of the steroid users making it to the Hall
22:35
Speaker 1: of Fame because I've heard a lot of different comments
22:38
Speaker 1: that they should just have a wing or just put
22:40
Speaker 1: him somewhere else, and we all know who they are.
22:43
Speaker 2: You know, but you have you know, basically, you know,
22:47
Speaker 2: you just had the President weigh in on Roger Clemens
22:51
Speaker 2: after he played golf with him and say that per
22:54
Speaker 2: Clemens deserves to be into the Hall of Fame. But
22:56
Speaker 2: he didn't mention Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa. So you know,
23:02
Speaker 2: my feeling about it is this, none of them are
23:05
Speaker 2: going to get twelve votes on these committees. And the
23:08
Speaker 2: way the thing is stacked now is that you can
23:12
Speaker 2: go on the committee twice, and if you don't get
23:14
Speaker 2: twelve votes, you can never go on the committee again.
23:17
Speaker 2: Used to be you can go on and add infinitum.
23:21
Speaker 2: Now those guys have already been on the committee once.
23:24
Speaker 2: Because it's a new rule, they're being grandfathered in. They
23:28
Speaker 2: have two more shots of it. I don't see how
23:31
Speaker 2: either they or Pete Rose get into the Hall of
23:33
Speaker 2: Fame with those committees. But you know, saying all that,
23:37
Speaker 2: you know, I think at somewhere down the road when
23:41
Speaker 2: there's different leadership in the Hall, and it could be
23:44
Speaker 2: ten years, twenty years after we're all dead and they're
23:47
Speaker 2: all dead, like Pete, that there's a committee that, like
23:51
Speaker 2: the Negro League committee that gets assembled and says, you know,
23:55
Speaker 2: let's look at these steroid guys. You know, let's look
23:58
Speaker 2: at Palmiero, that Sammy and all the numbers that they
24:02
Speaker 2: put together, and let's revisit this and put them into
24:06
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. There shouldn't be a steroid wing.
24:10
Speaker 2: That's stupid if you put you know, there's also a
24:14
Speaker 2: difference between the guys who were suspected of doing steroids
24:18
Speaker 2: and the guys like ay Rod who were actually caught
24:22
Speaker 2: and suspended. You know, you had Braun, you had a Rod,
24:27
Speaker 2: You had a number of guys who what might have
24:29
Speaker 2: been Hall of Fame caliber who were suspended. And that's
24:33
Speaker 2: a completely manny. Ramirez was suspended twice. I mean that.
24:40
Speaker 2: And the fact that you think Barry Bonds's head swelled
24:43
Speaker 2: up during that era to twice its size when there's
24:47
Speaker 2: no evidence of that, is different than a guy who
24:50
Speaker 2: has gotten caught. So I think all of this has
24:53
Speaker 2: to be looked at and revisited, and it's going to
24:55
Speaker 2: be done by a special committee. Somewhere down the road
25:00
Speaker 2: went probably Jane Forbes Clark, who is the chairperson who
25:04
Speaker 2: I love and respect, but I do believe that when
25:08
Speaker 2: she's going to have to be gone and the board
25:11
Speaker 2: of Directors of the Hall are going to have to
25:13
Speaker 2: reevaluate this under more enlightened leadership and former committee to
25:18
Speaker 2: get it done. But it's a while away.
25:22
Speaker 1: So when you talk about Barry Bonds, let's say said
25:24
Speaker 1: he had a chili relationship with the media chooser that
25:27
Speaker 1: didn't help his case out any debt.
25:30
Speaker 2: Well, look, Barry didn't have a chili relationship with me,
25:35
Speaker 2: And to this day he's still one of my best
25:37
Speaker 2: friends as a player, so and there were chosen guys.
25:42
Speaker 2: Bob Nightingale was another one he had a good relationship with.
25:45
Speaker 2: He had his guys, you know. It was the day
25:48
Speaker 2: to day guys who asked him questions that he thought
25:51
Speaker 2: were stupid, that he just didn't really want to He
25:54
Speaker 2: didn't give much time to. But there are plenty of
25:57
Speaker 2: guys like that have gotten into the Hall. Laury never
26:00
Speaker 2: give anybody the time of day, and he was a
26:03
Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer. Same thing with Steve Carlton,
26:06
Speaker 2: who never talked to the media. I mean, that's not
26:08
Speaker 2: the criteria for whether you should be in the Hall
26:11
Speaker 2: of Fame or not. You have the numbers or you
26:13
Speaker 2: don't have the numbers, you know. And there's no better
26:16
Speaker 2: hitter that I've seen in my lifetime but Barry Bonds.
26:20
Speaker 2: The other two that are close who I saw a
26:23
Speaker 2: lot is Mickey Mannle and Tony Gwynn. And you know,
26:28
Speaker 2: I'm not short shifting Hank and Willie. They were great hitters,
26:33
Speaker 2: but I didn't see much of their career. I'm only
26:35
Speaker 2: going by the people I saw live for a good
26:39
Speaker 2: part of my life, and I covered all of Tony's
26:41
Speaker 2: career and a good portion of Barry's career. And I
26:44
Speaker 2: saw man All a lot when I was a kid
26:46
Speaker 2: at the stadium. You know, those are the greatest hitters
26:48
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. There's no argument with it. You know,
26:51
Speaker 2: the three greatest statistical seasons of all time are Baby
26:57
Speaker 2: Ruth in nineteen twenty when he had fifty nine home
26:59
Speaker 2: rows runs and won the trip, should have won the
27:03
Speaker 2: Trible Crown. He batted three seventy. He had one hundred
27:07
Speaker 2: and seventy five or something harbies, and he didn't win
27:10
Speaker 2: the Triple Crown batting three seventy because Harry Hollman of
27:13
Speaker 2: the Tigers betted three ninety. And in nineteen fifty six
27:17
Speaker 2: Mantell did win the Triple Crown. And a lot of
27:20
Speaker 2: people are comparing him now to cal Riley because he
27:24
Speaker 2: just broke Mantle's record as a switch hitter, which was
27:27
Speaker 2: set in nineteen fifty six. But for Christ's sake, Manto
27:31
Speaker 2: batted three fifty that year. Cal Riley is batting two forty.
27:35
Speaker 2: Give me a break, I'm not comparing cal Riley with
27:39
Speaker 2: you know, with Mickey Mantle. That's the second greatest season
27:42
Speaker 2: and the third is two thousand and four with Barry
27:45
Speaker 2: when he led the league in hitting, hit forty five
27:48
Speaker 2: home runs, drove in seventy to eighty runs, never saw
27:52
Speaker 2: a bitch to hit. Walk two hundred and thirty times
27:56
Speaker 2: or thirty two times one hundred and twenty intentional, both records,
28:00
Speaker 2: they're never even going to be close again, and actually
28:04
Speaker 2: had who was on base more than the yet bats
28:09
Speaker 2: he had in that season. Nobody's even close to that
28:12
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And you know, whether you think Barry
28:15
Speaker 2: did it because of performance enhancing drugs, okay, so be it.
28:20
Speaker 2: But he told me two things which I'll never forget.
28:25
Speaker 2: He said he knew whether the pitcher was going to
28:27
Speaker 2: be a bowler or strike before it even left the
28:30
Speaker 2: pitcher's hand.
28:31
Speaker 1: That's number one.
28:33
Speaker 2: Number two, he said, he only hit, got three pitches
28:37
Speaker 2: to hit in a game, and he still hit.
28:39
Speaker 1: His home runs.
28:40
Speaker 2: The guy walked almost twenty five hundred times in his career.
28:45
Speaker 2: If you had kept that in half, he would have
28:47
Speaker 2: had nine hundred home runs twenty five hundred times. That's
28:51
Speaker 2: like five full seasons of it bats. It's crazy. Yeah,
28:56
Speaker 2: nobody else, Baby Ruth, nobody, nobody. They don't do it
28:59
Speaker 2: with Judge. They're just starting to walk them intentionally, but
29:02
Speaker 2: not at the rate they walked Barry. It's just what
29:05
Speaker 2: was going on in that era. And he was like
29:08
Speaker 2: thirty nine years old when they were doing it. In
29:10
Speaker 2: the two thousand and two World Series, Mike Soosher walked
29:13
Speaker 2: him like seven times intentionally. They were walking in with
29:17
Speaker 2: runners on first, with runners on first and second. You know,
29:20
Speaker 2: it didn't matter, didn't have to be a base open
29:23
Speaker 2: for them to walk them. And he still hit four
29:25
Speaker 2: hundred in that World Series. You know, the guy's a
29:29
Speaker 2: great player, and he's being cast unfairly as the villain
29:34
Speaker 2: of the whole steroid era. And you know, I will
29:37
Speaker 2: say a lot of it is what you said, his
29:42
Speaker 2: reaction to the people that he was dealing with on
29:47
Speaker 2: a day to day basis. But he liked to play angry.
29:51
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll tell you a quick story before
29:53
Speaker 2: we go on to the next thing. You know, Tony
29:56
Speaker 2: Gwinn and Barry were really close friends. There was no
29:59
Speaker 2: nice than Tony Quinn. So when Barry when they were
30:03
Speaker 2: kids and Barry was playing in Pittsburgh, you know, Tony
30:06
Speaker 2: was taking batting practice at three Rivers Stadium and Barry
30:09
Speaker 2: was busting in his ass and saying, Tony, how come
30:11
Speaker 2: you don't hit more home runs? And he goes, well,
30:14
Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying to get base hits. Blah blah blah.
30:17
Speaker 2: Tony thought when he got into the league, all he
30:20
Speaker 2: cared about he wanted to get the three thousand hits,
30:22
Speaker 2: and he thought if he pulled the ball and hit
30:25
Speaker 2: home runs, he wouldn't get the three thousand hits, which
30:28
Speaker 2: he was proven wrong to him. While he watched Barry
30:33
Speaker 2: and you know Ted Williams talk to him about it.
30:35
Speaker 2: But Barry grabbed his bat, which was a tiny bat,
30:40
Speaker 2: and he said, let me see that bat. And Barry
30:42
Speaker 2: took a bat, stepped into the batting cage and hit
30:45
Speaker 2: home runs all over three River Stadium and batting practice
30:48
Speaker 2: with that bat. And I handed it back to Tony
30:51
Speaker 2: and said, don't give me any of this bullshit. Number
30:54
Speaker 2: two during a year when they were both mature players,
31:01
Speaker 2: and Barry's with the Giants already, and you know, Tony
31:04
Speaker 2: was in the middle of winning his eight batting titles.
31:07
Speaker 2: You know that Barry. Tony asked, Parry, Barry, why do
31:11
Speaker 2: you act like this? You're such a schmock. Why do
31:14
Speaker 2: you do this? And he goes, well, Tony, blah blah
31:16
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, I like to play angry. You know,
31:19
Speaker 2: that was always his excuse. So Tony said, look, we're
31:23
Speaker 2: going to the All Star Game next week. Watch me
31:26
Speaker 2: and do what I do. So they went to the
31:29
Speaker 2: All Star Game. You know, people were around Tony. Tony
31:32
Speaker 2: was doing interviews, people around Barry. Barry was affable and
31:36
Speaker 2: doing injury interviews because he could have done it. He's
31:40
Speaker 2: a smart and affable person. He's a very smart person
31:44
Speaker 2: and a very good interview when he wants to be.
31:47
Speaker 2: So they get through the All Star Game and now
31:50
Speaker 2: the season, second half of the season starts and Barry
31:53
Speaker 2: is like, tried to carry it over to act like
31:56
Speaker 2: Tony acts with the writers and he goes like over
31:59
Speaker 2: fifteen or eighteen, and his teammateser, what are you doing?
32:04
Speaker 2: Why are you acting this way? We want the old
32:06
Speaker 2: Barry back so you can start hitting again. So the
32:10
Speaker 2: old Barry got back. He started hitting again. So later
32:13
Speaker 2: in the season, you know, Tony season, they're playing the
32:17
Speaker 2: Padres and Tony asked Parry, Tony, Parry, what happened? And
32:22
Speaker 2: Barry says to Tony, I'm sorry, Tony I can't do
32:25
Speaker 2: what you do.
32:27
Speaker 1: That is funny. I'll give you this. So but one
32:31
Speaker 1: they got when you mentioned the amount of walks in
32:34
Speaker 1: bonds of masks, that says an awful lot. You don't,
32:37
Speaker 1: no matter what, whether you're taking anting or not, just
32:39
Speaker 1: to be able to the intimidation factors. Surreal that you
32:43
Speaker 1: didn't want to go ahead and face a guy because
32:45
Speaker 1: you're afraid of the wrong baw You're right, those are
32:48
Speaker 1: incredible records that most people.
32:50
Speaker 2: I always argued, you know, with the managers at the time,
32:53
Speaker 2: but Jim Poacher was the only guy who pitched him
32:56
Speaker 2: and consequently hit more home runs against the Padres than
33:00
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball. But you know, when I asked
33:03
Speaker 2: Bochy why he pitched him, he goes, if we can't
33:05
Speaker 2: get Barry apt in these situations, we're not going to
33:09
Speaker 2: be able to do shit if we get to the playoffs. So,
33:12
Speaker 2: but every other manager, Jim Tracy, you know, Bob Brimley,
33:16
Speaker 2: you could go down the list from that era and
33:18
Speaker 2: I'd ask him, why do you walk Barry all the time?
33:22
Speaker 2: It's an un you you know, it's not a usable strategy.
33:27
Speaker 2: The guy's not going to hit seven hundred he's not
33:30
Speaker 2: hitting ninety home runs, you know, so every you know
33:33
Speaker 2: Tenant Pats, he might hit a home run against you.
33:36
Speaker 2: But the Giants used to publish in their notes every
33:39
Speaker 2: day how many time runs they scored when Barry when
33:44
Speaker 2: Barry walked, and it was like thirty percent of the
33:47
Speaker 2: time when he was walked, the Giants would score. It
33:51
Speaker 2: was not a practical strategy. It didn't work, and it
33:55
Speaker 2: was to the detriment of Barry, to the detriment of
33:59
Speaker 2: of baseball as a whole, because you're taking the bat
34:03
Speaker 2: out of one of the greatest players in history. And
34:07
Speaker 2: fans are paying to see these guys hit. They're not
34:10
Speaker 2: paying for these guys to see them intentionally walked. So
34:14
Speaker 2: some team can have a strategy to win win a
34:17
Speaker 2: game somewhere during the course of the season. And that
34:20
Speaker 2: was the argument, Well, we're trying to win a game.
34:23
Speaker 2: I mean, give me a break, you're trying to win
34:25
Speaker 2: a game. I don't know how many arguments I had
34:27
Speaker 2: with Sosia, who was a good friend too, and I
34:30
Speaker 2: covered when he was a player, covered him all the
34:33
Speaker 2: way through his career managing the Angels, and I don't
34:36
Speaker 2: know how many arguments and he'd always go, yeah, I
34:38
Speaker 2: know you hate you hate intentional walks, and I go, yeah.
34:42
Speaker 2: I had this discussion with Boone this year about why
34:46
Speaker 2: do you think they walked it walk Barry all these
34:49
Speaker 2: times and they're not walking Judge. And then you know,
34:52
Speaker 2: one day he like, look up up to me after toll.
34:54
Speaker 2: He goes that situation in the ninth inning. If I
34:57
Speaker 2: were them, they they should have walked Judge in that situation,
35:01
Speaker 2: and they didn't. And I said, well, I'm glad they didn't.
35:04
Speaker 2: He goes, he didn't because I thought you you liked
35:08
Speaker 2: intentional walks. I said, I don't hate intentional walks. If
35:12
Speaker 2: it was up to me, i'd legislate him out of
35:14
Speaker 2: the game. You have to pitch the guy. You can't
35:16
Speaker 2: intentionally walk them. It's just stupid. You know, there's no
35:20
Speaker 2: other sport, you know, football, basketball, hockey, you know tennis.
35:26
Speaker 2: I mean by the team sports where you can take
35:30
Speaker 2: the bat, the stick, you know, the ball out of
35:36
Speaker 2: the greatest players in those sports hands and and nagate
35:41
Speaker 2: what they do. In basketball, the closest thing is fouling
35:44
Speaker 2: a guy. But he still gets to the line and
35:46
Speaker 2: he can sink the two shots that you know that
35:49
Speaker 2: you that you order the three shots that you negated
35:51
Speaker 2: by fouling them. In baseball, when you take the bat
35:54
Speaker 2: out of the player's hands and welcome, there's no replacing
35:58
Speaker 2: that at bat. That is over and it goes down
36:01
Speaker 2: into your record book as a as a walk. And
36:06
Speaker 2: yet it'll be great in this era for your on
36:09
Speaker 2: base percentage and your ops, which is what general managers
36:13
Speaker 2: in the analytic letter in the analytic raor love. But
36:18
Speaker 2: I mean it is not good for the fans who
36:21
Speaker 2: are paying the amount of money they are to see
36:25
Speaker 2: these games. So really, I'm glad that they haven't gotten
36:28
Speaker 2: around to taking the bat at a judge's hands like that,
36:32
Speaker 2: although they have been walking in a lot recently.
36:35
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, Aaron Judge is quite the player and
36:38
Speaker 1: you can only imagine what this guy is the limit
36:40
Speaker 1: with him. So let's go back to Pete Rose. Well,
36:43
Speaker 1: let's talk about Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge, what a tremendous
36:46
Speaker 1: player that he has many.
36:48
Speaker 2: Since we're we're on that, and then we'll get the
36:51
Speaker 2: judge has that.
36:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds good to me. Okay, let's go back
36:54
Speaker 1: to Pete Rose. Okay, he passed away obviously commission to
37:01
Speaker 1: Rob Manfred said, okay, well it's a little it's eligible
37:05
Speaker 1: to go back now because he's done. Do you think
37:08
Speaker 1: he ultimately does get in or is it going to
37:09
Speaker 1: still take a while even though he passed away to
37:14
Speaker 1: get in.
37:15
Speaker 2: You know, I think there it's going to have a
37:17
Speaker 2: lot to do with what you know, the President of
37:20
Speaker 2: the United States does to put pressure on the Hall
37:23
Speaker 2: of Fame to vote him to vote AMN because there's
37:28
Speaker 2: no question and I don't I'm not saying I know
37:32
Speaker 2: this is a fact. I'm just saying Trump said Pete
37:35
Speaker 2: Rose should go into the Hall of Fame. Rob Menfred
37:39
Speaker 2: met with Trump at the White House, and right after
37:42
Speaker 2: that he put took it. He took Rose off the
37:46
Speaker 2: restricted list, and then the Hall of Fame followed suit
37:50
Speaker 2: and said, since he's no longer on the restricted list,
37:53
Speaker 2: he's now eligible to be voted into the Hall of Fame. Now,
37:57
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that had anything to do with it.
37:59
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's a curious run of events that
38:06
Speaker 2: led up to Pete getting off the restricted list. And
38:10
Speaker 2: actually I thought right away when Pete died he should
38:14
Speaker 2: have gone off the restricted list, and his family asked
38:18
Speaker 2: him to do it, Manford to do it, and he
38:21
Speaker 2: just let it sit there. What Pete died in October?
38:24
Speaker 2: He asked in January, and he just let it sit
38:27
Speaker 2: there until Trump said something about it. And so now
38:32
Speaker 2: you know, it's like again, I'm not saying that that's
38:36
Speaker 2: why Manford did it when he did it, but he
38:39
Speaker 2: should have done it as soon as as Rose died,
38:42
Speaker 2: because there's no reason to have anyone who's deceased on
38:47
Speaker 2: Baseball's restricted list, because the point of that is the
38:51
Speaker 2: restricted list is you can never participate in a baseball
38:56
Speaker 2: game or baseball activities again in any sort of capacity.
39:00
Speaker 2: Now if you're dead, that's over. Same thing for Shoeless Joe,
39:05
Speaker 2: anybody who's on a restricted list. And yeah, everybody who
39:08
Speaker 2: was on a restricted list along with Pete got off
39:12
Speaker 2: the list. So now the question is, in my opinion,
39:17
Speaker 2: is this, since Pete was never allowed to be on
39:21
Speaker 2: the BBWAA ballot, which I've voted for since nineteen ninety two,
39:26
Speaker 2: I think, and I think Jason Stark agrees with me,
39:30
Speaker 2: that Pete should go on our ballot, and his fifteen years,
39:34
Speaker 2: which was his eligibility at the time, on our ballot
39:37
Speaker 2: should run first before he goes on these you know,
39:41
Speaker 2: veteran committee error committee ballots. He was never given the chance,
39:47
Speaker 2: So now now I don't they're not going to do this,
39:50
Speaker 2: they already said they won't, but I think that would
39:53
Speaker 2: be the rightful thing to do and give us a chance,
39:57
Speaker 2: just like we did with the steroid guys. If we
40:00
Speaker 2: want to vote, we vote in. If we don't, we don't,
40:02
Speaker 2: and then he goes fifteen years down the road onto
40:07
Speaker 2: whatever the error system is going to be at that time,
40:11
Speaker 2: because they changed it all the time, just like they
40:13
Speaker 2: changed our thing from fifteen fifteen years of eligibility to
40:19
Speaker 2: ten to basically get the steroid guys off the ballot
40:23
Speaker 2: quicker so they didn't have to deal with them anymore. So,
40:27
Speaker 2: I mean, you know know what the rules are going
40:30
Speaker 2: to be because the Border Directors sits down and does
40:35
Speaker 2: what they want to do. Let me make it clear
40:38
Speaker 2: that even though the BBWAA votes for the whole and
40:44
Speaker 2: votes in players with five to ten years of with
40:50
Speaker 2: the ten years of eligibility after five years at the retirement,
40:54
Speaker 2: we have no say on how we do it, who
40:58
Speaker 2: we can vote for. You know, they we put together
41:02
Speaker 2: the names on the ballot, it gets approved by the Whole.
41:06
Speaker 2: We then vote, but you know, we've asked for a
41:10
Speaker 2: number of things, like having the ballot be transparent so
41:14
Speaker 2: that nobody can vote, not vote for Eutro and not
41:19
Speaker 2: vote for you know, for Jeter, and basically not be
41:24
Speaker 2: accountable for it. We have asked the Hall of Fame
41:28
Speaker 2: to do that and they have turned us down. So
41:32
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame controls this even though we have
41:36
Speaker 2: the vote, and in fact, the Hall of Fame controls
41:39
Speaker 2: the fact that if we do not, they could remove
41:43
Speaker 2: us from the vote anytime they want. They turn it
41:47
Speaker 2: and develop an entirely new voting system. They are happy
41:52
Speaker 2: with it because it's traditional and it's what's been done
41:55
Speaker 2: since the Whole was basically created by Jane james grandfather
42:03
Speaker 2: back in the nineteen thirties. It's been under the Clark
42:06
Speaker 2: family's auspices as a nonprofit since then, and they're a
42:12
Speaker 2: very traditional organization and I think they like the way
42:15
Speaker 2: it is in the relationship with the BBWA, So they
42:19
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to change, but they could. The
42:21
Speaker 2: Border Directors could change it at any time, and the
42:24
Speaker 2: Border Directors could change you know, the eligibility for Rose
42:29
Speaker 2: and you know, the eligibility for some of these you know,
42:33
Speaker 2: error committees, which they do all the time. They've shortened
42:36
Speaker 2: the ballot. They've you know, it was ten people on
42:40
Speaker 2: that ballot, now it's eight. You know, there are only
42:43
Speaker 2: so many votes to go around when you have sixteen
42:45
Speaker 2: people on that committee. Every person on that committee can
42:48
Speaker 2: only vote for for four guys or you know, four people.
42:56
Speaker 2: So I mean multiply it by sixteen. What it's like
43:00
Speaker 2: forty eight votes to go around. You need twelve twelve
43:03
Speaker 2: votes on the ballot, you know. Really you can't vote
43:06
Speaker 2: more than like three people in at a time. There's
43:09
Speaker 2: not enough votes to go around. And they could change
43:13
Speaker 2: that too. They could add people to the committee, they
43:15
Speaker 2: could take people away from the committee. It's just impossible
43:20
Speaker 2: to say, you know what lengths they'll go to restrict
43:24
Speaker 2: people's entrance to the hall. And I can tell you
43:27
Speaker 2: this because Jane has said this publicly. They are for
43:31
Speaker 2: a small hall. There are twenty thousand or so people
43:35
Speaker 2: who have played Major League Baseball in all time, which
43:38
Speaker 2: is a very small amount of people. Really, only two hundred,
43:42
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty of those that have gotten into
43:45
Speaker 2: the Hall. That's like one percent. They want to keep
43:48
Speaker 2: it at one percent. They want to keep it as
43:51
Speaker 2: it really is a closed club and it's a real
43:54
Speaker 2: honor to get into the Hall of Fame. So they're
43:57
Speaker 2: going to do whatever they're going to do to keep
44:00
Speaker 2: that pattern, and that's their ethos.
44:04
Speaker 1: That's incredible stuff. Really. I was actually just rival you
44:07
Speaker 1: just mentioned that President Donald Trump voice is loud enough
44:10
Speaker 1: to make people really think about doing what they did.
44:13
Speaker 1: That just blows me away. And then you brought up
44:15
Speaker 1: an interesting point that I was going to ask you
44:17
Speaker 1: about anyway. It's called g MT A great mind, take
44:20
Speaker 1: a light, very great stuff. Man, who it really is?
44:23
Speaker 1: I am baffled. White he throw Suzuki and Derek Jeter
44:27
Speaker 1: never got one hundred percent of the ball blows me
44:29
Speaker 1: away when they should have easily got that.
44:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there could be one hundred different reasons why
44:38
Speaker 2: that person didn't vote. You know, they didn't you know,
44:41
Speaker 2: they they thought, oh, he's gonna get I'd rather put
44:45
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put ten people in the ballot they're going
44:48
Speaker 2: to get in any way, I'm going to vote for
44:50
Speaker 2: somebody else. Yeah, they could have like like I had,
44:53
Speaker 2: I had you know a terrible relationship with e Turo,
44:57
Speaker 2: and I wrote a column about it when I w
45:00
Speaker 2: I published my ballot. I published my ballot every year,
45:03
Speaker 2: and when I wrote this year, I wrote wrote the
45:05
Speaker 2: column about it. I listed all the Michigan things, nothing traumatic,
45:12
Speaker 2: that I had with each Row over the course of
45:14
Speaker 2: the years. And you know, but I still said, I'm
45:18
Speaker 2: voting for each Row. It doesn't matter. He was such
45:20
Speaker 2: a good player. But I'm telling you he's not going
45:24
Speaker 2: to get an unanimous vote because there's going to be
45:26
Speaker 2: some writer who's going to be pissed off that there
45:29
Speaker 2: could be a Japanese writer who was so pissed off
45:31
Speaker 2: of the way he treated the Japanese writers like crap.
45:36
Speaker 2: I watched it happen, and it's like I knew there
45:39
Speaker 2: was going to be so I thought he might not
45:42
Speaker 2: even get He might do a junior and get like
45:46
Speaker 2: ninety five or ninety six percent, and there would be
45:49
Speaker 2: five or six people didn't vote for him. You know,
45:52
Speaker 2: that's where those relationships come in. Now, each row, you know,
45:56
Speaker 2: I had, you know, a lot of fun stories with him,
45:59
Speaker 2: And when I saw him at the hall, I hadn't
46:01
Speaker 2: seen him in years, and he actually said, oh, I
46:06
Speaker 2: haven't seen you in so long, and he gave me
46:08
Speaker 2: a big hug, which I was surprised, and it was like, okay,
46:12
Speaker 2: that's over. I'm fine with Tetro now. But I mean,
46:15
Speaker 2: the last time I interviewed him, he was with a purpose,
46:19
Speaker 2: small people, and you know, he could speak. He did
46:21
Speaker 2: his Hall of Fame speech in English, which was terrific.
46:25
Speaker 2: He could do every interview he does live in English.
46:29
Speaker 2: He refuses to do that. He still uses interpreter, even
46:32
Speaker 2: though the interpreter doesn't have to translate the question to him.
46:37
Speaker 2: He knows the question, but he answers it in Japanese
46:40
Speaker 2: to make the Japanese interpreter interpret it for us, which
46:44
Speaker 2: is just unholy hell. You know, during your career where
46:50
Speaker 2: you're trying and you have to go through a tape
46:52
Speaker 2: and do all this stuff and you don't know Japanese.
46:55
Speaker 2: What really is the answer? How is it? How are
46:57
Speaker 2: they homogenizing the answer for him? Which is what he likes.
47:01
Speaker 2: But the last time, you know, the Mariners had released
47:05
Speaker 2: him the year before because he couldn't play in it anymore.
47:10
Speaker 2: So now they decide, you know, he still hangs around
47:13
Speaker 2: and they're opening the season in Japan against the upland
47:16
Speaker 2: A's and they decide we're going to bring Etro back
47:20
Speaker 2: and he's going to play his last two games of
47:22
Speaker 2: his career in Japan at the Tokyo Dome and that's it.
47:27
Speaker 2: But Ittro gets it into his head and his agent,
47:31
Speaker 2: John Boggs, is a close friend of mine. Petro We're
47:34
Speaker 2: out to lunch in San Diego during the off season.
47:37
Speaker 2: He goes, you're not going to believe this. Petro is
47:39
Speaker 2: actually home training because he thinks he's going to try
47:42
Speaker 2: and make the team. He really wants to make the team.
47:45
Speaker 2: I go, there's no way he's going to make the team.
47:47
Speaker 2: I go, you know that. I know that, but I'm
47:49
Speaker 2: just telling you this is what He's going to go
47:52
Speaker 2: to spring training and try to make the team. So
47:54
Speaker 2: I go to spring training and I talked to Jerry Depoto,
47:57
Speaker 2: he's also a good friend of mine in general manager,
48:00
Speaker 2: and I tell him this and he goes, well, you
48:03
Speaker 2: can you can tell ea Tro he's not making the team.
48:05
Speaker 2: He's playing those two games in Supan and that's it.
48:08
Speaker 2: That's the end of his career. So I go, okay,
48:12
Speaker 2: go back to each trow He's doing his little scrum,
48:16
Speaker 2: and I asked him, you know, it's been like eight
48:19
Speaker 2: or nine months since you actually swung against live pitching.
48:23
Speaker 2: Do you think that's going to be a problem. Without
48:26
Speaker 2: the guy translating the question, his answer in Japanese was,
48:30
Speaker 2: what would it be like for you if you hadn't
48:33
Speaker 2: written a story in the last eight months? And I said,
48:37
Speaker 2: looked at him, and I go, let's put it this way, Eatro,
48:41
Speaker 2: I've written a lot more stories in the last eight months,
48:43
Speaker 2: and you've had base hits. And that's the last time
48:47
Speaker 2: I talked to him, and I vowed I would not
48:50
Speaker 2: talk to him again until he got into the Hall
48:52
Speaker 2: of Fame, which I didn't because I was just fed
48:55
Speaker 2: up with him. So, yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Jeter does.
49:00
Speaker 2: There's absolutely no reason why anybody wouldn't vote. Jeeter was
49:05
Speaker 2: just he wasn't the greatest interview in the world, but
49:07
Speaker 2: he was always accommodating, good or bad. He was pretty sanitized.
49:12
Speaker 2: He had it down. He didn't want to create any
49:14
Speaker 2: controversy in New York. He'd seen what had happened before
49:18
Speaker 2: to other players, and you know, he but he but
49:20
Speaker 2: he was always accommodating, and he was a great player
49:23
Speaker 2: to watch and Yankees only won the World Series five
49:26
Speaker 2: times with him captain. So I mean, how he had
49:29
Speaker 2: how do you not vote for him? Yeah? And he
49:31
Speaker 2: had what thirty two hundred hits or something whatever, you know, Like,
49:35
Speaker 2: I don't know that. That's completely baffling to me. And
49:39
Speaker 2: I just think that that again, I'm transparent with my vote.
49:43
Speaker 2: You know, have the guts to be transparent with your vote.
49:46
Speaker 2: If you're not going to vote for the guy, Hey,
49:48
Speaker 2: I'm so and so, and this is why I didn't
49:50
Speaker 2: vote for him. And if you're going to take a
49:52
Speaker 2: lot of hate mail and emails and text messages and
49:56
Speaker 2: you're going to blow up on Zoom and you're gonna
49:59
Speaker 2: blow up on you know, Twitter x, and you're gonna
50:03
Speaker 2: get toastigated by by the fan base in general, Well
50:08
Speaker 2: that's what the vote for him, you know. Yet that's
50:10
Speaker 2: up to you. But take the responsibility that this hiding
50:14
Speaker 2: behind an ananimous vote is just horrible.
50:20
Speaker 1: So what's going to two more people? Then we're gonna
50:22
Speaker 1: go to our first station break and then we're going
50:24
Speaker 1: to transition over to some other current events in baseball
50:27
Speaker 1: love a Hall of Fame talk talking with the guy
50:29
Speaker 1: like you have the vote since nineteen ninety two, you know.
50:31
Speaker 1: And I've been to a Hall of Faker a few
50:34
Speaker 1: times and dump a little made of money in there.
50:36
Speaker 1: Just it did a lot of videos the last time
50:38
Speaker 1: I was there, So you get hang with a little
50:40
Speaker 1: bit that would be appreciate because I have a lot
50:41
Speaker 1: of other important time atony to get to please. But
50:44
Speaker 1: let's talk about Don Manning Lee and Mickey Lowland. Don
50:46
Speaker 1: Manning Lee first, I recently did an interview with him
50:49
Speaker 1: down in Miami when he was with the Blue Jays.
50:52
Speaker 1: Obviously there bench Code Don and Isaac. He's a personal
50:56
Speaker 1: friend of mine. I also had a chance to interview
50:58
Speaker 1: Mickey Lolich. Do you think Don Manny Lee belows in
51:01
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame.
51:02
Speaker 2: I think he says he doesn't belong in the Hall
51:04
Speaker 2: of Fame, so I'll go with him on that. No,
51:07
Speaker 2: I don't think his career was long enough, and I
51:11
Speaker 2: think he was special at the apex of his career,
51:14
Speaker 2: but because of his back injuries and personal problems, you know,
51:17
Speaker 2: he just didn't have a long enough career to get
51:19
Speaker 2: him into the Hall of Fame.
51:21
Speaker 1: When he told me to sorry, what about Mickey Loledch,
51:24
Speaker 1: you talked about one of the best left handed pitchers ever,
51:26
Speaker 1: pitch An. He won three games obviously in the sixty
51:29
Speaker 1: eight World Series. You look at. All you have to do
51:32
Speaker 1: is look at his numbers to strike out the complete game.
51:34
Speaker 1: But yet he's not in there either, maybe not enough wins.
51:37
Speaker 1: But what about Mackey?
51:38
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, look, he was off the
51:41
Speaker 2: ballot way before I was voting, and he's just from
51:45
Speaker 2: a completely different error. But all I can say to
51:48
Speaker 2: you is that as pitching has changed dramatically over the
51:53
Speaker 2: course of time from when I started covering the game,
51:56
Speaker 2: you know, and Maddox and Glevin and Schmaltz start for
52:02
Speaker 2: those guys, Andy pettit's not in the Hall of Fame.
52:05
Speaker 2: The guy has the two hundred and fifty something wins,
52:08
Speaker 2: and he has nineteen nineteen playoff wins, the most in history.
52:14
Speaker 2: Does he belong in the Hall of fame. He's getting
52:16
Speaker 2: no traction on our ballot. So I mean, of course,
52:20
Speaker 2: across time. Now when you look at a guy like Lolich,
52:24
Speaker 2: he probably of course belongs in the Hall of Fame,
52:27
Speaker 2: and the pre nineteen eighty you know, error committee or
52:33
Speaker 2: to take a good look at him, because He's just
52:35
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that they're looking for to put
52:39
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame where you can review his
52:41
Speaker 2: numbers now in the perspective of where pitching is now.
52:48
Speaker 2: You know a guy like Bert Blylevin who spanned the
52:51
Speaker 2: you know the yeers. I didn't vote for by eleven
52:55
Speaker 2: the first ten or twelve years he was on the ballot.
52:58
Speaker 2: Then I started looking at at it, and he had
53:01
Speaker 2: fifteen years, and I looked at his shutouts, complete games,
53:05
Speaker 2: his wins and losses, strikeouts. It's like, why am I
53:10
Speaker 2: not voting for this guy? If this guy played in
53:14
Speaker 2: this area, he would never have these numbers. So I go,
53:17
Speaker 2: I'm voting for this guy. And I think in his
53:20
Speaker 2: fifteenth year on the ballot, he got in. And that's
53:24
Speaker 2: why when people ask if the guy doesn't get in
53:29
Speaker 2: on the first ballot, but he goes in on the tenth,
53:32
Speaker 2: what's different is his numbers haven't changed, no, But what changes,
53:36
Speaker 2: and which is the beauty of Hall of Fame voting,
53:39
Speaker 2: is that your respective changes from year to year depending
53:45
Speaker 2: on what's going on in the current era of Major
53:48
Speaker 2: League Baseball and who's on the ballot against him in
53:52
Speaker 2: those particular years and in. There were years where you know,
53:56
Speaker 2: Hawk Dawson got in, where Barry Lark got in. That
54:01
Speaker 2: if they were on the steroid ballots when people didn't
54:05
Speaker 2: have enough spots to vote, they would have never gotten in.
54:09
Speaker 2: But they were lucky in those years because there wasn't
54:12
Speaker 2: anybody of any sort of character and stability to get
54:17
Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame. So you know that's how
54:22
Speaker 2: they got in. Your vote, you vote steps stacks up
54:26
Speaker 2: against position. You never vote for a Hall of Famer.
54:31
Speaker 2: If he's a third baseman and can trust him to
54:33
Speaker 2: an outfielder, you contract him, can trust him against the
54:36
Speaker 2: other third basement and the same thing with the starting
54:38
Speaker 2: pitcher or a lever. You contrast him against starting pitchers
54:43
Speaker 2: or leavers or in the hall. So should Lolich be in.
54:46
Speaker 2: I'm not looking straight at his numbers right now, but
54:49
Speaker 2: I'm sure cast against what's happened in Major League Baseball
54:54
Speaker 2: since then, he probably should get a look from you
54:57
Speaker 2: know that pre nineteen era, nineteen eighty era, you know candidate,
55:03
Speaker 2: and you know the whole is always looking for people
55:06
Speaker 2: from that era because they think it's under manned.
55:10
Speaker 1: Great, so are well. Lou Wicker is a popular name
55:12
Speaker 1: that's not in there now. At some point or another,
55:15
Speaker 1: I believe he's going to get enough fashion to join
55:17
Speaker 1: his Alan Trammell Whitaker of any thoughts on him.
55:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we didn't vote trammelin. He got in
55:25
Speaker 2: by the Veterans Committee the year after he came off
55:27
Speaker 2: our ballot. So yeah, I mean definitely, you know, just
55:32
Speaker 2: like you know, Utterly and Jimmy Rollins are guys who
55:36
Speaker 2: you know, I vote for Jimmy Rollins, I vote I
55:39
Speaker 2: vote for Utley. I mean, I think they had major
55:42
Speaker 2: impact in their careers at the positions they played. And
55:45
Speaker 2: I think Whittaker is another one. I mean, look at
55:47
Speaker 2: how many games he and Trammel played together. You know,
55:50
Speaker 2: it's incredible.
55:53
Speaker 1: Okay, Well let's talk about Aaron Judge. Well, this guy
55:56
Speaker 1: is just I'm glad that he resigned with the Yankees
55:59
Speaker 1: and we have a finally of a chance to see
56:01
Speaker 1: a guy start in this same place story Venice, Aaron Judge,
56:05
Speaker 1: who he is? Unbelievable player? What are your thoughts about Aaron?
56:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's an unbelievable guy and an unbelievable player.
56:14
Speaker 2: And you know, all you have to say about when
56:16
Speaker 2: you're talking about the MVP in the American League is
56:20
Speaker 2: just look at his ops compared to everybody else. And
56:25
Speaker 2: the fact is, the mean batting average in Major League
56:28
Speaker 2: Baseball is like two forty five, and he's betting almost
56:32
Speaker 2: one hundred points higher than that. And he's the only
56:36
Speaker 2: there's only two or three or four players in Major
56:38
Speaker 2: League Baseball betting over three hundred. There's only one guy
56:42
Speaker 2: in the in the National League. But the last I
56:44
Speaker 2: look betting over three hundred, even Freddy Freeman is under
56:48
Speaker 2: three hundred. At this point, Otani's betting two to eighty.
56:52
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy is in another you know, in
56:56
Speaker 2: another place, and you know, when you talk about I was,
57:00
Speaker 2: I forget who it was I was talking to about.
57:02
Speaker 2: Maybe it was David Cohen, but they were telling me
57:06
Speaker 2: that the amazing thing about Judge's consistency is that he's
57:10
Speaker 2: so big, and to keep his mechanics in sync for
57:16
Speaker 2: a big guy, the way he does and do the
57:18
Speaker 2: same thing on every swing every day is really phenomenal.
57:24
Speaker 2: And when he gets out of sink, you can see it.
57:26
Speaker 2: That's when he goes into these long slumps. And so
57:29
Speaker 2: far that's happened to him practically every year the Yankees
57:32
Speaker 2: have been in the postseason. But during the regular season,
57:36
Speaker 2: you know, the guy hits home runs, drives in runs,
57:40
Speaker 2: steels bases, hates got an OPS over two hundred. Man
57:46
Speaker 2: Over the last three or three out of the last
57:48
Speaker 2: four seasons, he's had an OPS over two hundred. You know,
57:52
Speaker 2: the top ops. And I'm sending me the ops plus
57:57
Speaker 2: OPS plus over two hundred. The time ops in history
58:02
Speaker 2: is like Babe Ruth and the top in for a
58:05
Speaker 2: single season is Barry and Judge was above that this year. Wow,
58:11
Speaker 2: that's how good the player is.
58:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yes, well you talk about Shoe Tony like
58:16
Speaker 1: you say, he's treditor that can hit, he can pitch,
58:19
Speaker 1: he can do an awful lot. What else? What more
58:23
Speaker 1: can you say about.
58:25
Speaker 2: There's nothing you could say about him. He's you know,
58:28
Speaker 2: for what he for this era. I mean, look, and
58:32
Speaker 2: I've written this too, Not even Babe Ruth did what
58:35
Speaker 2: he did, did what he's doing, you know, Baby Ruth.
58:38
Speaker 2: There was no designated hitter back in that era when
58:41
Speaker 2: he played there. He had one season in nineteen nineteen
58:44
Speaker 2: where he pitched for the Red Sox and played right
58:48
Speaker 2: played the outfield every every day, he wasn't pitching, and
58:52
Speaker 2: so he played about one hundred and thirty games in
58:54
Speaker 2: the outfield, and as soon as you know, he was
58:58
Speaker 2: sold to the Ends for one hundred thousand dollars. The
59:02
Speaker 2: Yankees shut him down as a pitcher and he played
59:04
Speaker 2: the outfield for the rest of his career. But he
59:06
Speaker 2: had four starts for the rest of his career with
59:10
Speaker 2: the Yankees, and he went four to oh and barely
59:13
Speaker 2: let up a run. That's how good a pitcher he was.
59:16
Speaker 2: But o'tani has never done I mean, Ruth never did
59:20
Speaker 2: what o'tany is doing now, which is pitching full seasons
59:24
Speaker 2: or half seasons and hitting. And he has the DH
59:29
Speaker 2: to his favor to be able to do that. So
59:32
Speaker 2: he's a singular player in baseball history. There's just no
59:35
Speaker 2: doubt about it.
59:37
Speaker 1: We're going to do now, go go to our first station.
59:39
Speaker 1: Break Scott Morgan off Motor City, man Mouth be joined
59:42
Speaker 1: by the Boomer, Barry Bloom. Barry Bloom is one of
59:45
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Speaker 1: All right, Kenny, and you know, very next week we'll
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Mickey, it's good to hear that you're doing well.
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Speaker 2: I hope to see you again somewhere down the road.
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Speaker 2: So Scott, I'm in this situation here now where I
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Speaker 2: can give you about another fifteen minutes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds good. So let's get you a couple
1:03:31
Speaker 1: of major things. Let's talk about the CBA coming up.
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Speaker 1: Think that this is going to get ugly, well, the
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Speaker 1: potential salary cap looming.
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Speaker 2: No, I think it's going to be very much like
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Speaker 2: the last time.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: I would hope that the owners would take a different
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Speaker 2: tech to it, you know, where they would go into
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Speaker 2: bargaining and say we would like some salary restrictions of
1:04:02
Speaker 2: some kind a floor and a ceiling. And here's the
1:04:08
Speaker 2: math which proves that for all your players and the
1:04:13
Speaker 2: members of your unit. It'd be a good thing for
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Speaker 2: you to have it, and then they can negotiate from,
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Speaker 2: you know, a point of cordiality where rather than from
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Speaker 2: a point of anger. Because if the owners go into
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Speaker 2: the collective bargaining again with the same tact that they've
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Speaker 2: taken for the last fifty years and try to jam
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Speaker 2: a salary cap down their throat, and when the union
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Speaker 2: says no, which they will say no, then they'll lock
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Speaker 2: them out again in the off season, and then you're
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Speaker 2: going to have a replay I do believe of what
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Speaker 2: happened the last time. And when the season is about
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Speaker 2: to start, you know, most of the owners and most
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Speaker 2: of the big mat market owners, we'll have a lot
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Speaker 2: of money invested in this are going to cave. You
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Speaker 2: need seventy five percent of the owners to do anything,
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Speaker 2: and they're not going to have seventy five percent of
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Speaker 2: the vote to lock the players out into the regular season.
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Speaker 2: That's my opinion. I might be wrong. I talk to
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Speaker 2: people owners and baseball people a lot about this, and
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Speaker 2: this is what I'm getting from them. They just don't
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Speaker 2: think that the owners have that kind of stick touitiveness
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Speaker 2: to lock the players out into the season. On the
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Speaker 2: issue of the salary cut. There's too much money to lose.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Now, these next few topics are not going to
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Speaker 1: take a lot of time, so we'll go through them
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Speaker 1: in rapid fire or format. How does that sound? Okay,
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Speaker 1: the A's heading to Vegas or in an interim situation
1:05:48
Speaker 1: and Sacramento, what are your thoughts about that? And then
1:05:51
Speaker 1: we'll briefly on the race stadium as well. Well, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about the A's. Obviously you're on.
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Speaker 2: The West coast, you know. I think the A's are
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Speaker 2: a done deal. I went to you know, Vegas during
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Speaker 2: spring training the Timebacks went up, played a couple of
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Speaker 2: exhibition games at their minor league park. A lot of
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Speaker 2: the Vegas officials were there. They hired a new pro
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Speaker 2: club president at the time who helped get a llegiant
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Speaker 2: stadium done for the Raiders. I came away believing that
1:06:24
Speaker 2: the bid is very serious. I was told they were
1:06:27
Speaker 2: going to break ground in June. They did. They are
1:06:30
Speaker 2: now saying the stadium is funded. There was some other
1:06:33
Speaker 2: legislation that was passed yesterday, the permitting the building. They
1:06:39
Speaker 2: are now putting pylons in and they say they have
1:06:42
Speaker 2: the money to do it. I think it's done deal.
1:06:45
Speaker 2: They're going to be playing there in twenty twenty eight.
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Speaker 1: What about the unim situation, sacrament and a lot of complaints.
1:06:51
Speaker 2: Out there, but it's going to stay that way until
1:06:54
Speaker 2: until they moved to Vegas. They have no place else
1:06:56
Speaker 2: to go with this one.
1:06:58
Speaker 1: And the right situation. Like they played time Burner Field,
1:07:00
Speaker 1: They've made it work and they're supposed to be back
1:07:02
Speaker 1: at the drop. But I think the ultimate ending is
1:07:04
Speaker 1: gonna be in Hillboro County. Do you agree with the
1:07:07
Speaker 1: word they I don't think they've done a decent journal
1:07:09
Speaker 1: the same people. I know, no former Tampa resident. I
1:07:12
Speaker 1: think they'll be mine there. But what about the Rays?
1:07:15
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the key to the Rays is that,
1:07:17
Speaker 2: you know, when Stu Sternberg stepped out of the last
1:07:21
Speaker 2: deal in uh Panellas County, major League Baseball forced them
1:07:26
Speaker 2: to sell. That's going to happen probably by the end
1:07:29
Speaker 2: of next week. Once that's done, they already their club,
1:07:34
Speaker 2: one of their club presidents is gone. I heard that
1:07:39
Speaker 2: Eric Neelander, their general manager, is terrific. He may be
1:07:43
Speaker 2: moving on. I don't know what the story will be
1:07:45
Speaker 2: with cash, But the era of the way the Rays
1:07:48
Speaker 2: is being run or being run is over once that happens,
1:07:52
Speaker 2: and they will now talk with people in Panella's county,
1:07:56
Speaker 2: I mean in Hillsborough County to build build a stadium
1:07:59
Speaker 2: over there. I think that's where the new ownership wants it,
1:08:02
Speaker 2: and I think it'll ultimately happen over there. I mean
1:08:07
Speaker 2: Stuke pulled out on two deals, one in Hillsboro and
1:08:10
Speaker 2: one in Penelas because he just didn't want to spend
1:08:13
Speaker 2: the money. And now you have new ownership with a
1:08:15
Speaker 2: lot more money, and I think ultimately you know they're
1:08:19
Speaker 2: going to be playing. They're going to get into the
1:08:21
Speaker 2: TRUP next year at some point. You know, they're they're
1:08:24
Speaker 2: shooting for April or for April early April. Whether it
1:08:29
Speaker 2: gets there or not, they will be in there. By contract,
1:08:32
Speaker 2: they have to play in the trap for three more years,
1:08:36
Speaker 2: so they're in there through twenty twenty twenty eight at
1:08:42
Speaker 2: this point, so twenty seven and twenty eight, So that
1:08:47
Speaker 2: gives them plenty of time to build a stadium and
1:08:52
Speaker 2: get it funded somewhere where it's going to be applicable
1:08:57
Speaker 2: for everybody. So I think you're going to see a
1:08:59
Speaker 2: total chain in the Rays, and I think that's that's
1:09:03
Speaker 2: where it's going right now.
1:09:05
Speaker 1: I need a reprediction about expansion. Where do you think
1:09:07
Speaker 1: the nasty cities are going to be?
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Speaker 2: You know, it's a good question, and uh, you know,
1:09:14
Speaker 2: part of it is I look at the cities that
1:09:18
Speaker 2: are viable for expansion in Major League Baseball. When you're
1:09:22
Speaker 2: talking about the Charlottes and Nashville's and Portland's, and you know,
1:09:26
Speaker 2: they're NBA cities, their NHL cities, Salt Lake Cities another one.
1:09:31
Speaker 2: They're not Major League Baseball cities. They don't have the superstructure,
1:09:35
Speaker 2: they don't have the hotel space. Sacramento doesn't have the
1:09:40
Speaker 2: hotel space, you know, and there was talk about, you know,
1:09:43
Speaker 2: funding and building a stadium there. It's a four billion
1:09:47
Speaker 2: dollar process, if not more, because you're going to have
1:09:53
Speaker 2: some city. There's no city except ironically Oakland, that has
1:09:58
Speaker 2: a major League ready ballpark at this point, and so
1:10:02
Speaker 2: you're going to have to start from scratch in any
1:10:04
Speaker 2: one of those cities and build. That means some city
1:10:08
Speaker 2: is going to have to come up with the two
1:10:11
Speaker 2: billion dollars to build a roof stadium because I don't
1:10:16
Speaker 2: think you can build a stadium, and the same thing
1:10:18
Speaker 2: in saying in Tampa, you cannot build not a stadium
1:10:24
Speaker 2: without a retractable roof in Tampa. With the weather during
1:10:27
Speaker 2: the summer in Tampa, it should be a restriction now
1:10:31
Speaker 2: that any new stadium because the climate change anywhere in
1:10:34
Speaker 2: the country is built with a roof, whether it's a
1:10:37
Speaker 2: permanent dome or a tractable dome. The weather now does
1:10:41
Speaker 2: not permit not having a roof. You can't get any
1:10:45
Speaker 2: sort of like continuity in playing your games. So where
1:10:49
Speaker 2: they come up with that money and then a two
1:10:52
Speaker 2: billion to four billion dollar expansion fee. Who's going to
1:10:55
Speaker 2: come up with your four to six billion dollars to
1:10:58
Speaker 2: get it done? Which cities coming up with all this?
1:11:03
Speaker 2: So I go right now to me, they're not going
1:11:06
Speaker 2: back to Oaklands. They're not going back to Montreal. You
1:11:10
Speaker 2: know they have the history of doing this. Cities lose
1:11:12
Speaker 2: their their teams. You know, Seattle lost the team, they
1:11:15
Speaker 2: were right back in Seattle. Kansas City was the team.
1:11:18
Speaker 2: They're right back in Kansas City. Washington lost the team.
1:11:21
Speaker 2: It took years, but they went back to Washington. New York.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: The Mets, and I mean the Giants and Dodgers left.
1:11:27
Speaker 2: They went back to New York with the Mets. They've
1:11:29
Speaker 2: got a history of this, so you would think they
1:11:32
Speaker 2: might go back to Montreal or Oaklands. They may be
1:11:35
Speaker 2: the best cities, for the most viable cities to do it,
1:11:38
Speaker 2: if they can come up with with money for a stadium.
1:11:40
Speaker 2: I mean, if Joe Lakeup, who owns the Warriors, went
1:11:43
Speaker 2: to Major League Baseball and said, I'm going to tear
1:11:46
Speaker 2: down the Oakland Coliseem and build a new stadium right
1:11:49
Speaker 2: on that spot, and I'm going to fund the stadium myself,
1:11:52
Speaker 2: and I'm going to fund you know, by the team.
1:11:56
Speaker 2: You know, major League Baseball might go back to Oakland,
1:11:58
Speaker 2: but it would take somebody like that with that kind
1:12:00
Speaker 2: of money to do it, and that kind of wherewithal
1:12:03
Speaker 2: and a track record of getting stuff done like Lakeum does.
1:12:07
Speaker 2: But you know, I just don't see any place in
1:12:09
Speaker 2: the country where they're going to vitably build that spend
1:12:13
Speaker 2: that kind of money. I mean, the NBA isn't doing it.
1:12:15
Speaker 2: They have two viable cities right now. They could move
1:12:19
Speaker 2: into Seattle and Las Vegas tomorrow. They have the arenas
1:12:23
Speaker 2: they you know, they keep talking about building a basketball
1:12:26
Speaker 2: arena in Las Vegas. Yeah, that'd be great down the road,
1:12:29
Speaker 2: but you don't need it. You've got an arena. T
1:12:31
Speaker 2: mobile is just fine. I've covered two tournament in season,
1:12:35
Speaker 2: tournament finals and semifinals there. It's a great place to
1:12:39
Speaker 2: watch basketball, so you could go into it. But they
1:12:41
Speaker 2: don't want to do it. They don't want to split
1:12:43
Speaker 2: up the TV money. They don't want to start two
1:12:46
Speaker 2: teams from scratch. There's a lot of opposition in the
1:12:49
Speaker 2: NBA among owners to expand it. And I know that
1:12:53
Speaker 2: baseball owners like the idea of like divvying up the
1:12:56
Speaker 2: two billion dollars that they're going to get from the
1:12:58
Speaker 2: expansion teams for buying for selling those teams, But then
1:13:02
Speaker 2: they're the equivalent is they're gonna wind up having to
1:13:06
Speaker 2: split up their television national television money from thirty teams
1:13:10
Speaker 2: to thirty two teams ultimately, even if they hold their
1:13:14
Speaker 2: feet to the fire like they did with Tampa Bay
1:13:16
Speaker 2: and the and the Diamondbacks and excluded them from the
1:13:20
Speaker 2: national TV money for a few years after they came in.
1:13:23
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't see it viable, and I'll
1:13:26
Speaker 2: probably be wrong. There's always somebody who's fullish enough to
1:13:30
Speaker 2: step up with the money, but I just don't see
1:13:32
Speaker 2: it practically. It just doesn't pencil out.
1:13:36
Speaker 1: So you're telling me you don't see any the Nationals concerned.
1:13:39
Speaker 1: That's fair enough. If you don't feel there's any viable candidates,
1:13:42
Speaker 1: I'm fully fine with it. Some people do something one
1:13:45
Speaker 1: important question and I only have two more questions to
1:13:47
Speaker 1: wrap it up and pull out your books. So you
1:13:49
Speaker 1: don't see any viable candidates. I know Nashville, Utah, Charlotte
1:13:52
Speaker 1: have been brought, but you don't see any of those
1:13:53
Speaker 1: because they have to start building a stadium for THEE Well, and.
1:13:57
Speaker 2: They're all too demographically, they're too small. All okay, NBA
1:14:01
Speaker 2: cities and NHL cities they are not in the major league.
1:14:05
Speaker 2: They are not Major League Baseball or NFL cities.
1:14:10
Speaker 1: Well, that's fair, that's totally fair. Right. Let's talk about
1:14:12
Speaker 1: media access. This is really important. I want to make
1:14:14
Speaker 1: sure we got that on while we had a moment.
1:14:16
Speaker 1: I know it's been reduced, obviously, the coverage have been compromised.
1:14:19
Speaker 1: I know COVID has had a lot to do in
1:14:20
Speaker 1: the past. Where do you do you feel that what
1:14:23
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about media access? Being reduced these days.
1:14:25
Speaker 1: I know Tommy Gags and Bob Ryan have the people
1:14:28
Speaker 1: that I've spoken to in the past aren't happy with that.
1:14:30
Speaker 1: They're kind of glad they got out when they did. Well.
1:14:32
Speaker 1: What about you're in it on a daily basis, Do
1:14:35
Speaker 1: you agree that media access have been reduced and how
1:14:37
Speaker 1: much does that hurt in the game or what are
1:14:39
Speaker 1: you talking about it? Overall?
1:14:41
Speaker 2: My feeling about is that it could be better. But
1:14:44
Speaker 2: of all the sports, you know, and I cover all
1:14:48
Speaker 2: of them, major League Baseball is the best sport to cover,
1:14:52
Speaker 2: you know, for media access. You know, whether you go
1:14:56
Speaker 2: into a locker room and you get forty five minutes
1:14:59
Speaker 2: before betting practice in every locker room home or away,
1:15:03
Speaker 2: and you know, the issue that we're dealing with now
1:15:06
Speaker 2: is let's get more more people into the locker room
1:15:09
Speaker 2: to talk to because they're in meetings, they're taking banning practice,
1:15:13
Speaker 2: they're doing all the stuff they need to do to
1:15:14
Speaker 2: prepare for a game, which I don't be crunch them.
1:15:17
Speaker 2: It's a tough job they have getting prepared and playing
1:15:20
Speaker 2: a baseball game. So I mean that that's the only
1:15:23
Speaker 2: area in baseball I see. I think the I think
1:15:27
Speaker 2: the NBA, the NHL, and the w NBA is non existent.
1:15:32
Speaker 2: But I think it's inadequate, and the NFL wants to
1:15:36
Speaker 2: restrict it even more than it is. NBA is not good,
1:15:40
Speaker 2: you know, but it's better. You know, there's no pregame
1:15:43
Speaker 2: access in the NBA anymore. Really, there's some, but but
1:15:48
Speaker 2: players are really not around. They're they're preparing for the
1:15:51
Speaker 2: game by the time you get done with the coaches,
1:15:54
Speaker 2: and if there's any media access, there's nobody around. You know,
1:15:57
Speaker 2: I don't know how you you know, go through and
1:16:02
Speaker 2: figure out having a player be available to do media
1:16:07
Speaker 2: interviews when their mindset is to get prepared for the
1:16:10
Speaker 2: game and they're under so much pressure and they have
1:16:13
Speaker 2: to digest so much information, and there's so many meetings
1:16:16
Speaker 2: and so many things that they have to take part in.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: And the same thing with the managers and the coaches.
1:16:22
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have the time to really get
1:16:24
Speaker 2: to know these guys the way you used to do either,
1:16:27
Speaker 2: because they go from one thing to the next. You know,
1:16:31
Speaker 2: I count it up in baseball something like seventeen managers
1:16:36
Speaker 2: who are either in the front office or managers right
1:16:39
Speaker 2: now who I covered when they were players. And I
1:16:43
Speaker 2: have great relationships with all those people because I go
1:16:45
Speaker 2: back so far, but my access to some of them
1:16:49
Speaker 2: are mini skill. You can't get into an office and
1:16:51
Speaker 2: sit down with them and shoot the shit anymore the
1:16:54
Speaker 2: way you used to be able to do it. But
1:16:56
Speaker 2: you know, it's like that's part of the whole You
1:16:59
Speaker 2: knows of what we're going through in the game, and
1:17:02
Speaker 2: you know I'm not a day to day beat reporter.
1:17:05
Speaker 2: Maybe if I were a day to day beat reporter,
1:17:07
Speaker 2: now is the post to when I was, you know,
1:17:10
Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties and early nineteen nineties. I might
1:17:12
Speaker 2: complain about it, but for what I need and the
1:17:17
Speaker 2: way I do my job, I can always get what
1:17:21
Speaker 2: I need and I don't have any problem who's doing
1:17:24
Speaker 2: my stories. So I find that the media access could
1:17:27
Speaker 2: be better, but I don't have any real complaints about it.
1:17:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. I know that modern day communications
1:17:32
Speaker 1: person different than what we're coping to and it's a
1:17:35
Speaker 1: different generation and they're asked to do a lot more things.
1:17:37
Speaker 1: So do you feel that that is the case. And
1:17:39
Speaker 1: then the final question that will have fort of streaming
1:17:42
Speaker 1: in the social media, then we'll you'll promote your books,
1:17:44
Speaker 1: but let's how it come modern day communications in the streaming,
1:17:47
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap it up well to deal with I.
1:17:51
Speaker 2: Mean, it is what it is. I mean you're talking
1:17:53
Speaker 2: to a guy who hasn't written for a newspaper since
1:17:56
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight, Okay, I mean I went from the
1:17:59
Speaker 2: Union Tribute into Bloomberg, to the MLB just basically Forbes,
1:18:04
Speaker 2: the Sportico. I've been writing online and for streaming services
1:18:08
Speaker 2: for you know, since nineties, since the late nineteen nineties.
1:18:12
Speaker 2: It was the way it was going. And you know,
1:18:14
Speaker 2: if you didn't recognize it and tried to hang on,
1:18:17
Speaker 2: hang on to your newspaper job, you know, you were
1:18:21
Speaker 2: like you're you were at risk of becoming a dinosaur
1:18:23
Speaker 2: with it, which a lot of people did. It's where,
1:18:26
Speaker 2: it's where it's going. It's where's TV is going. It's
1:18:28
Speaker 2: all you know, it's all streaming, So you know, it's
1:18:32
Speaker 2: just where it is. You have to just just like
1:18:34
Speaker 2: I adjusted. When I got into the business, I carried
1:18:38
Speaker 2: a little ala Vetti typewriter with me. I pounded out stories,
1:18:41
Speaker 2: I handed it to a guy who transmitted it to
1:18:44
Speaker 2: whatever newspaper office I was writing for.
1:18:46
Speaker 1: It'sok.
1:18:47
Speaker 2: Three minutes to transmit the story. Then I worked on
1:18:49
Speaker 2: every generation of a computer there was until what I'm
1:18:56
Speaker 2: doing now on my you know, on my MacBook. I mean,
1:19:01
Speaker 2: it's just transition. You know, we're not horse and buggies anymore.
1:19:06
Speaker 2: We're not you know, the bicycle went out with the car.
1:19:09
Speaker 2: Let things go out with other things, and you just
1:19:12
Speaker 2: have to adapt to it. And to stay alive in
1:19:15
Speaker 2: the business, you have to make adjustments and you have
1:19:18
Speaker 2: to adapt to it. That's all I mean. I think
1:19:20
Speaker 2: I'm still around doing what I'm doing because I've adapted
1:19:23
Speaker 2: to it.
1:19:25
Speaker 1: Smart finally, streaming social media the way that that's a
1:19:28
Speaker 1: way of twenty twenty five. What are your thoughts about
1:19:31
Speaker 1: how everything's evolved to where we're in. I know NBC
1:19:33
Speaker 1: is getting back in the baseball business and streaming with
1:19:36
Speaker 1: more prevalent, but let's just combine it to social media streaming.
1:19:39
Speaker 1: That's a loaded subject there. Just give me your overall
1:19:42
Speaker 1: thoughts on it, and then after that you can promote
1:19:44
Speaker 1: your books.
1:19:45
Speaker 2: I mean, I only you know, use social media to
1:19:48
Speaker 2: print my you know, to to really paint leak links
1:19:52
Speaker 2: for my stories, to talk about, you know, things that
1:19:55
Speaker 2: are going on, to comment on things that are going
1:19:58
Speaker 2: on in the sport that I cover. I don't use
1:20:02
Speaker 2: it for personal things. I don't talk about my family,
1:20:07
Speaker 2: I don't talk about politics. You know, I see no
1:20:10
Speaker 2: value in it at all. And you know, when I
1:20:14
Speaker 2: first started on social media, on Twitter, I used to
1:20:17
Speaker 2: get a lot of pejorative tweets back on things that
1:20:20
Speaker 2: I on my opinions and things I said, And right
1:20:23
Speaker 2: from the get go, I just said, you can have
1:20:26
Speaker 2: an opinion with whatever you want, with whatever I say
1:20:29
Speaker 2: or right, but you can't be you can't curse about it.
1:20:33
Speaker 2: And if you curse, I will give you one more try,
1:20:36
Speaker 2: and if you do it again, I will block you
1:20:38
Speaker 2: and ben you. You're never going to be able to
1:20:40
Speaker 2: talk to me again. And that's what I did. And
1:20:43
Speaker 2: you know, some people, when I wrote that, they came
1:20:45
Speaker 2: back and apologized and said, gee, I'm really sorry. I
1:20:49
Speaker 2: got out of hand. I won't do it again. Other
1:20:51
Speaker 2: guys did and I just blocked them. But after a
1:20:54
Speaker 2: while I totally cleaned up my timeline. I don't get
1:20:58
Speaker 2: any of it. I don't get that. I mean, there's
1:21:01
Speaker 2: algorithms that the way you write and what you answer
1:21:04
Speaker 2: to the algorithms play to what you're doing, and so
1:21:08
Speaker 2: you can totally purge your entire Facebook page, your entire
1:21:13
Speaker 2: you know, X line by writing what the way you
1:21:16
Speaker 2: want to write, and the algorithm keeps all the other
1:21:18
Speaker 2: garbage out. You just have to be smart about how
1:21:21
Speaker 2: you do it. That's all.
1:21:23
Speaker 1: As far as streaming is concerned, I think it's incredibly
1:21:26
Speaker 1: you can watch these games anywhere you want.
1:21:28
Speaker 2: Well, we've just talked about that, Yeah.
1:21:30
Speaker 1: Okay, good, all right, So finally let's talk about your books.
1:21:34
Speaker 1: Talk about what you've written, what you're going to write,
1:21:36
Speaker 1: what's in the mix. And I can't thank the Boomer
1:21:38
Speaker 1: enough for being on tonight's Motor City man Mouth Show.
1:21:41
Speaker 1: Very Bloom, longtime friend of mine. I think I'm so
1:21:44
Speaker 1: glad that you were able to make it tonight. Very you.
1:21:46
Speaker 1: You're a great friend and I can't think you know enough.
1:21:48
Speaker 1: But as we wrap this thing up, let's talk about
1:21:51
Speaker 1: the books you've written and what you're working on. And
1:21:54
Speaker 1: I know you have to it rolling, but thanks for
1:21:55
Speaker 1: being generous at your time tonight. You're totally the books.
1:21:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I wrote two books with Larry Boa back
1:22:01
Speaker 2: in the day. I wrote a Tony Quinn book which
1:22:04
Speaker 2: never seen the light of day, and I'm hoping to
1:22:06
Speaker 2: get published. I bet did a half a book with
1:22:09
Speaker 2: Barry which never got finished. I'm working on a book
1:22:11
Speaker 2: on the nineteen eighty four Padres, which you know I've
1:22:16
Speaker 2: been researching and I've started to write. I've had a
1:22:20
Speaker 2: friend and I work on my memoir, which is you know,
1:22:23
Speaker 2: in the process. So I have a couple of books
1:22:25
Speaker 2: in the process, a couple of books that are out there.
1:22:28
Speaker 2: I did a couple of children's baseball books. I work
1:22:33
Speaker 2: full time for Sportico, which is a sports business site
1:22:37
Speaker 2: owned by Penske Media. It's based in New York. You know,
1:22:41
Speaker 2: you can put Barry and Bloom and Sportico into your
1:22:46
Speaker 2: Google search and you'll get my column page with every
1:22:49
Speaker 2: column that I've ever written for Sportico going back for years.
1:22:53
Speaker 2: So I mean to stay current. That's what I would do,
1:22:56
Speaker 2: just to just do that. And my Twitter is at
1:23:00
Speaker 2: Botski at b O O M s K I E.
1:23:05
Speaker 2: And that you know that that's pretty much the size
1:23:08
Speaker 2: of it.
1:23:09
Speaker 1: Beautiful one, I said, Barry. We have two authors, myself
1:23:12
Speaker 1: and you and you know, I know you've done a
1:23:15
Speaker 1: lot of your coverage on the West Coast with the potteries.
1:23:17
Speaker 1: You talked about being in the Diamondbacks and the Giants,
1:23:19
Speaker 1: but in my opinion, you're an icon all over the
1:23:23
Speaker 1: country and I'm just glad that we had an opportunity
1:23:25
Speaker 1: to get your story out there on our show tonight
1:23:27
Speaker 1: and talk of it. I've learned so much hear from
1:23:30
Speaker 1: you on the show, and I can't thank you very much.
1:23:32
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward so when you come to Miami area
1:23:34
Speaker 1: that we're going to go out and have a nice
1:23:35
Speaker 1: stake in Fort Lauderdale. So since you get to town,
1:23:38
Speaker 1: please think about me. We'll have a good time and
1:23:40
Speaker 1: build on the show. But Barry, thank you so much
1:23:43
Speaker 1: for being on the Motor City Man Moles Show tonight. Candy,
1:23:47
Speaker 1: you could come on for a fast station breakout goodbye,
1:23:50
Speaker 1: but I know Barry has to go. Thanks so much, Barry,
1:23:53
Speaker 1: you're the great. You're a great friend of colleague, and
1:23:56
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. You're just awesome for a partner.
1:23:58
Speaker 2: Thanks Scott, you're too kind. Stay in touch please, and
1:24:01
Speaker 2: good luck here with battling your Alzheimer's.
1:24:04
Speaker 1: I appreciate Candy real quick. If you want to, if
1:24:07
Speaker 1: you have to get going, that's fine. Candy will go
1:24:09
Speaker 1: ahead and wrap it up with a station break. Goodnight, Bary,
1:24:12
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us, Thank you, thank you,
1:24:15
Speaker 1: good night.
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Speaker 1: All right, Katie, give us a preview real quickly about
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Speaker 1: Fire Up. We'll wrap it up in a moment. But meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: great to have Barry Bloom on tonight, longtime friend of mine,
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Speaker 1: and I can in all of the.
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1:26:42
Speaker 1: All right, well that doesn't here for the Motor City
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Speaker 1: man Mouth Show. Glad to be joined by Barry Bloom,
1:26:46
Speaker 1: the Boomer and the Motor City man Mouth tonight, and
1:26:50
Speaker 1: I look forward to being able to build on. We
1:26:53
Speaker 1: have our baseball show on Saturday with Mickey Calloway, and
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Speaker 1: of course I'll be a special guest on New York
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Speaker 1: MLBA tomorrow night. We have a good show at ten
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Speaker 1: course we're before the Gator claiming hurricanes over the weekend,
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Speaker 1: so on behalf of the Boom are very bloom. My
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Speaker 1: name is Scott Morgan at the Motor City Manmouth and
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Speaker 1: Kandy Eviling as well. For joining us tonight, and we'll
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Speaker 1: see you on the next episode on Saturday when Mickey
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Speaker 1: and I Eric Katz go live and talk some baseball.
1:27:23
Speaker 1: Have a good night everybody and fire up as next
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