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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.
- 0:12Speaker 1: I am Schad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
- 0:16Speaker 1: The Action Network is the company that provides you with
- 0:20Speaker 1: all the betting information, research data picks that you need.
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- 0:31Speaker 1: the Action Network App. I am joined by my bff,
- 0:37Speaker 1: my companion, Mika Padre, Professional Better, Simon Hunter, my brother.
- 0:44Speaker 1: What's going on, Chad, buddy? It was. It was a
- 0:47Speaker 1: great scene yesterday. It was one of those uh rare
- 0:50Speaker 1: occasions we had to hang out for an entire debt.
- 0:53Speaker 1: We had a full day together yesterday. Uh the entire
- 0:56Speaker 1: Action Network crew, or a lot of the Action Network crew,
- 0:59Speaker 1: Me You, Brett McMurphy, Capital, j A k A Sources,
- 1:05Speaker 1: Dan Revel, Raheem Palmer, Amanda Rose, our video team. It
- 1:09Speaker 1: was fantastic. We were in a studio in Brooklyn, New York.
- 1:15Speaker 1: We were very cool, We were very hipster. It was
- 1:17Speaker 1: a street that was just warehouses, combination of studios, auto
- 1:25Speaker 1: body shops, metalworks shops, um like hipster bars, hipster bars,
- 1:31Speaker 1: everything graffitied and we're walking around like we belong. We
- 1:36Speaker 1: were doing a full day of video stuff that we
- 1:39Speaker 1: need to populate our YouTube page, action network on YouTube,
- 1:42Speaker 1: stuff that we need to support, sponsor videos, all this
- 1:46Speaker 1: great stuff. We had a great conversation about what a
- 1:48Speaker 1: sports betting Hall of Fame would look like. Um, really fun,
- 1:52Speaker 1: really great day. It was great to see you. You
- 1:53Speaker 1: look fantastic. I mean I definitely anytime I left the
- 1:57Speaker 1: walk around, I definitely got a lot of side eyes
- 1:58Speaker 1: because I looked like I was going to church and
- 2:00Speaker 1: people on that street were just like, what's the deal
- 2:02Speaker 1: with this guy? Um? My favorite part chat was how
- 2:05Speaker 1: comfortable you are in front of cameras. I mean, you
- 2:07Speaker 1: couldn't have been any happier to take photos do videos.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I mean you were in your element me, I was
- 2:14Speaker 1: joking the camera guy. That's my first photos probably like
- 2:16Speaker 1: since high school and twenty years ago for prom. I
- 2:19Speaker 1: haven't had photos like that and that long. And it
- 2:22Speaker 1: was just very uncomfortable for me. But it was fun
- 2:24Speaker 1: definitely being up there. But it's definitely like a normal guy.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I hate looking at myself, so it was pretty uncomfortable
- 2:29Speaker 1: with the whole take twenty photos or take a hundred
- 2:32Speaker 1: photos and then do videos. It was it was different,
- 2:34Speaker 1: Uh that it was. It was. It was a really
- 2:36Speaker 1: fun day as usual. Uh. You were astute in pointing
- 2:40Speaker 1: out all the things I don't want people to notice
- 2:42Speaker 1: about me. Huge show today, we gotta go over a
- 2:48Speaker 1: Survivor pick. We gotta introduce some money line parlays. Uh.
- 2:53Speaker 1: We gotta narrowed down our final five. UM reminder, I'll
- 2:57Speaker 1: be on with Colin uh tomorrow, which I challenge him
- 3:01Speaker 1: against his picks. Uh. Sunday morning convinced me at Action
- 3:05Speaker 1: Network HQ eleven am. We've got some reviews. We did
- 3:09Speaker 1: our big balls better the week on Tuesday, that was
- 3:11Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty niners. I'm already regretting it, Simon.
- 3:14Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of reastarch that makes me think
- 3:16Speaker 1: we want to be on the packers. We said, Simon
- 3:18Speaker 1: says the Bengals, and now that that line has moved considerably, huge,
- 3:23Speaker 1: huge sharp action coming in on the Bengals. They are
- 3:26Speaker 1: definitely the sharp side. We're gonna go over all of it, Simon.
- 3:29Speaker 1: I get these notes from this guy on Twitter, these
- 3:33Speaker 1: d ms he goes by John Doe on Twitter and
- 3:37Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell. I don't know if it's you with a
- 3:39Speaker 1: burner account, They are some of the best content production
- 3:42Speaker 1: notes that I get and like he will give me feedback,
- 3:46Speaker 1: he gives insight. He is so spot on. And today
- 3:51Speaker 1: it was his note for today it was like, I
- 3:53Speaker 1: think the Thursday show is really an update? What's going
- 3:56Speaker 1: on with injuries? What are Simon sources saying about who
- 3:58Speaker 1: will be out, who's playing? What to look for before Sunday?
- 4:01Speaker 1: Also bigger look at the at the line movement, the
- 4:04Speaker 1: bet percentage, the money percentage. The Falcon's Giants split is interesting.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Wonder why it hasn't fallen. Do the books know something?
- 4:11Speaker 1: I need to challenge you more. Last Thursday, several times
- 4:14Speaker 1: you said nothing has changed, But what were you looking
- 4:16Speaker 1: for to change in particular matchups? And if nothing has changed,
- 4:19Speaker 1: what does that mean? Visa be the number. This guy's
- 4:22Speaker 1: notes are amazing. I don't know who the funk he is.
- 4:24Speaker 1: I agree with everything he said. I don't know this guy.
- 4:26Speaker 1: I hate him. Okay, it sounds like he's in your head.
- 4:28Speaker 1: I'm sick of it already. I hate this guy. Oh
- 4:31Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe you're you're You're like a
- 4:34Speaker 1: little bit challenged and a little bit sensitive. I could
- 4:37Speaker 1: go tennantete with his picks to you in the DM chat.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I'm cor in my position, my friend, Listen, he's not
- 4:43Speaker 1: looking to to challenge you in your picks. I think
- 4:46Speaker 1: he loves you and your picks. I think he's looking
- 4:48Speaker 1: he wants even more information than I'm pulling from you
- 4:51Speaker 1: right now. It's more of a critique of the way
- 4:53Speaker 1: I'm managing the show performance. I'll never be able to
- 4:57Speaker 1: give injury updates on Thursday. I'm just like everyone else.
- 4:59Speaker 1: I'm I'm waiting for injury reports on Sunday. NFL teams
- 5:02Speaker 1: lie constantly, but I'm always definitely the lookout and always
- 5:05Speaker 1: looking for information that way. Um So, yeah, if I
- 5:08Speaker 1: ever get any type of information like that, I would
- 5:10Speaker 1: definitely say it on this show. So we had eight
- 5:13Speaker 1: games that we had squared that we wanted to talk
- 5:17Speaker 1: about that we're going to keep an eye on, and
- 5:18Speaker 1: then over the past couple of days, I've had two
- 5:21Speaker 1: more games that I've sort of been continuing to do
- 5:23Speaker 1: research on that are making me think twice. Let's start
- 5:26Speaker 1: with the eight games. I think there's a couple of
- 5:28Speaker 1: games early on we can agree on Chargers plus six
- 5:32Speaker 1: and a half against the Chiefs. I love this game.
- 5:36Speaker 1: I love it. I continue to love it. Let me
- 5:38Speaker 1: give you a little bit of data. Okay, you pointed
- 5:41Speaker 1: out on Tuesday. You pointed out on Tuesday it's been
- 5:45Speaker 1: nine games since the Chiefs covered the spread, excluding Week
- 5:50Speaker 1: seventeen last year, a meetingless game, and they've all been
- 5:54Speaker 1: one score games. You're spot on about this game. I
- 5:59Speaker 1: love it. We're screwed. Uh, it feels too easy, Chat,
- 6:02Speaker 1: It's definitely one of these games I keep looking at
- 6:05Speaker 1: over and over again because something just feels a little
- 6:07Speaker 1: off about it. Love the number though, like we talked
- 6:09Speaker 1: about on Tuesday, nothing has changed in this fact six
- 6:12Speaker 1: and a half grade number. I was hoping to go
- 6:14Speaker 1: back to seven. That's a lot of the pros hid
- 6:16Speaker 1: it at um. Still, we love the six and a
- 6:19Speaker 1: half a divisional game that we've seen it. With the
- 6:23Speaker 1: Chiefs defense, they can be a run on at will.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And this team with the Chargers, you can see what
- 6:29Speaker 1: they want. That offensive line is pretty good. They're gonna
- 6:32Speaker 1: be able to run the ball against this this week
- 6:33Speaker 1: Chiefs front. So we we just were expecting a very
- 6:36Speaker 1: close game here. Chat. And the fact that it's two
- 6:38Speaker 1: points higher than what it should be just because it
- 6:40Speaker 1: is the Chiefs. This is why the Chiefs keep not covering,
- 6:42Speaker 1: because the lines keep getting bumped up this way. So
- 6:45Speaker 1: we're gonna keep riding this trending. We're gonna take the
- 6:47Speaker 1: Chargers here. Yeah, there's a pretty specific pattern here. The
- 6:54Speaker 1: Chiefs are the public darling. Their lines get over inflated,
- 7:00Speaker 1: they don't cover. The games are closer than everyone thinks
- 7:04Speaker 1: they should be. All reiterate one or eight in the
- 7:06Speaker 1: last night against the spread. All those are one score
- 7:09Speaker 1: games since two thousand three, divisional dogs of three or
- 7:13Speaker 1: more according to bet Labs, are database of literally millions
- 7:19Speaker 1: of data points in bedding going back to two thousand
- 7:22Speaker 1: and three. Since two thousand three, divisional dogs of three
- 7:25Speaker 1: or more four oh eight eighteen against the spread, which
- 7:31Speaker 1: is what you need to be a profitable better um.
- 7:37Speaker 1: The systems, the market, the stats are all telling us
- 7:43Speaker 1: the Chargers the right side here and again. These are
- 7:45Speaker 1: the kind of bets you make, and when you lose it,
- 7:48Speaker 1: you don't get pissed yourself. There's nothing you can do.
- 7:51Speaker 1: In the end. It comes down then playing a sport.
- 7:53Speaker 1: But this is the data you need to use. People
- 7:54Speaker 1: like all these little factors playing to making these kind
- 7:57Speaker 1: of bets because you know, long term this is a
- 7:59Speaker 1: winning in bet, and even short term this feels like
- 8:02Speaker 1: the smart play because just what we've seen with these
- 8:04Speaker 1: two teams, like the Chargers, both their games have been
- 8:07Speaker 1: incredibly close, and we've seen it with the Chiefs. I mean,
- 8:09Speaker 1: they should have dominated the Ravens, they just don't have
- 8:12Speaker 1: the defense to do it. This team does not have
- 8:14Speaker 1: the defense really put teams away, and they always let
- 8:16Speaker 1: the back door be opened. So that's why we like
- 8:18Speaker 1: this number so much. Shut the professional betters like yourself,
- 8:21Speaker 1: you've probably got this game power rated at three and
- 8:23Speaker 1: a half or four. Um. You also noted this is
- 8:27Speaker 1: a pro versus Joe game. Majority of bets coming in
- 8:30Speaker 1: on the Chiefs right now, but this line moved down
- 8:34Speaker 1: from seven to six and a half and it's kind
- 8:35Speaker 1: of just been sitting there. I guess the only question,
- 8:38Speaker 1: Simon is do we wait, like do we think on
- 8:40Speaker 1: Sunday so much more money is going to come in
- 8:43Speaker 1: on the Chiefs, especially because the Chargers lost to the Cowboys,
- 8:46Speaker 1: that there's a chance to get the extra half point
- 8:48Speaker 1: or do we go get it now or do we
- 8:51Speaker 1: get it now? And get it it. Sut, Yeah, you
- 8:53Speaker 1: can get it now, you could. Wait, I don't. I
- 8:55Speaker 1: just don't see it going back to seven. The pros
- 8:57Speaker 1: every time they move with the seven, they hit it. Um.
- 9:00Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the Ravens. Anytime the Ravens
- 9:02Speaker 1: touched plus four, the professional has come back in on
- 9:05Speaker 1: And that's why I kept going back on the plus
- 9:07Speaker 1: three and a half last week. So it's just a
- 9:09Speaker 1: pro number. Um, maybe it could, like you said, the
- 9:13Speaker 1: public could come in so heavy on parlays and teasers
- 9:16Speaker 1: and things like that that they could bump the back
- 9:18Speaker 1: up to seven. Well, it's such a key number, like
- 9:20Speaker 1: we talked all the time that I just cannot see
- 9:22Speaker 1: the bookmakers do and I think they'll just keep it
- 9:24Speaker 1: at six and a half. My feeling is that Charters
- 9:27Speaker 1: will one be one of our best five on Sunday,
- 9:33Speaker 1: no doubt. Okay, the next game we got to talk about.
- 9:37Speaker 1: It's so ugly and this is where I feel like,
- 9:40Speaker 1: are we making mistakes and how we're thinking about the
- 9:43Speaker 1: contest right because the Jags are seven and a half
- 9:46Speaker 1: point home underdogs on on paper. I know the games
- 9:53Speaker 1: aren't played on paper, but bets are made on paper,
- 9:56Speaker 1: on paper, one d sent we should be taking the
- 10:01Speaker 1: Jags in this game. There's zero zero doubt, agree or disagree.
- 10:09Speaker 1: It's again we saw it on Tuesday. It was one
- 10:11Speaker 1: of those I said, this is a no brainer. You
- 10:13Speaker 1: bet you bet the Jacks here, We're gonna be the
- 10:15Speaker 1: only couple of people still betting the Jags. Um. We
- 10:19Speaker 1: talked about it. This could be a complete meltdown of
- 10:21Speaker 1: a team. UM, I wish we just trusted. I just
- 10:25Speaker 1: trusted my gut when we talked, you know, a month
- 10:27Speaker 1: and a half ago, and I said, yeah, not that
- 10:29Speaker 1: big of a fan of Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Are we sure this kids should be the second pick overall?
- 10:33Speaker 1: And this Jets doesn't have all these holes and the
- 10:36Speaker 1: same thing the Jaguars we talked about, this team has
- 10:38Speaker 1: so many holes and weaknesses. You're bringing in a college
- 10:41Speaker 1: coach like Urban Meyer. He gives that terrible quote to
- 10:44Speaker 1: Vic van Jo, who just seldom right down the river, saying,
- 10:47Speaker 1: this guy came up with me and said, it's like
- 10:48Speaker 1: you play Alabama every week, Like no ship this these guys,
- 10:52Speaker 1: it's the best of the best. Um Man bad chat, bad, bad, bad.
- 10:58Speaker 1: It could all be on fire. Yes, I will not
- 11:00Speaker 1: make people put this in our in our contest because
- 11:03Speaker 1: I feel bad losing people's good, hard earned money on
- 11:06Speaker 1: the Jaguars. But you have to bet this game. It's
- 11:09Speaker 1: such a pro game. You take the seven and a
- 11:11Speaker 1: half home dog against a team that what a win
- 11:14Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. They know they got away with him
- 11:16Speaker 1: last week. They're gonna be feeling good all this week.
- 11:18Speaker 1: We like to fade Kingsbury. It's we do not believe
- 11:22Speaker 1: this guy's head coach. And on top of that, the
- 11:24Speaker 1: Cardinals defense is one of the you know, worst grade
- 11:28Speaker 1: of defenses this year. They can be run on, huge,
- 11:31Speaker 1: gaping holes for that team, especially last week in Stalvin Cook.
- 11:34Speaker 1: So it's a game we think Robinson will get right
- 11:37Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. You won't turn the boliver as much.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Seven and a half. It's too big of a number.
- 11:41Speaker 1: This Cardinals team should not be favored by that much.
- 11:43Speaker 1: So yeah, because look like idiots come next week when
- 11:46Speaker 1: the Jaguars get blown out again. But I have to
- 11:49Speaker 1: as a professional bettert number. But I'm not. I'm not
- 11:51Speaker 1: gonna make you make our best five chat. Don't worry.
- 11:55Speaker 1: It is a sharp play only be because when a
- 12:01Speaker 1: team is this big of an underdog at home, you
- 12:04Speaker 1: historically have to bet it. And the Cardinals, I think
- 12:07Speaker 1: a lot of professional betters they look at these games
- 12:09Speaker 1: and think the Cardinals are suspect. They think a they
- 12:13Speaker 1: can't trust Cliff Kingsbury. We know this. Matt Mitchell knows this.
- 12:17Speaker 1: He's done his Cliff Kingsbury rant. Have you about the
- 12:21Speaker 1: Lords and loser? He's all us about. He still keeps
- 12:27Speaker 1: I'll try. They are a a shoot for the moon,
- 12:35Speaker 1: need miracle, big plays in order to win games. We
- 12:38Speaker 1: saw it against Minnesota. That Minnesota team is not very good.
- 12:42Speaker 1: There's the jury still out on this Tennessee team. They
- 12:44Speaker 1: might not be very good. They've played, you know, two
- 12:47Speaker 1: games plus an extra quarter except for the fourth quarter
- 12:51Speaker 1: they have and and that overtime. They haven't been very good.
- 12:54Speaker 1: And so now the Cardinals. If you start to look back,
- 12:56Speaker 1: this is when we start to get a little bit,
- 12:57Speaker 1: you know, of the opportunity to see how these teams
- 13:00Speaker 1: have played. Carters will play two teams that might be
- 13:02Speaker 1: mediocre but have one in spectacular fashion. Every fiber of
- 13:06Speaker 1: our being should say, take the Jags in this spot, Um,
- 13:10Speaker 1: there's plenty of systems that will tell you owing two
- 13:12Speaker 1: teams as dogs at home are the right side. But
- 13:18Speaker 1: urban Meyer genuinely is out of his debt. And you
- 13:22Speaker 1: mentioned the vic Banjio thing. He sounded like tweetled Dean tweeedled,
- 13:26Speaker 1: don't what a tool. The reason I'm so call shop
- 13:29Speaker 1: putting this one in is because the Jets. This reminds
- 13:33Speaker 1: me of the Jets last year. The Jets and the
- 13:35Speaker 1: Cowboys I think both started your own five or owned
- 13:37Speaker 1: six against the spread. So some of these teams that suck,
- 13:40Speaker 1: they just simply suck and they just don't cover because
- 13:42Speaker 1: they are so bad and so on. Now, the coaching
- 13:46Speaker 1: is the biggest thing in football. If you don't have
- 13:48Speaker 1: the coaching, doesn't matter all the skill and talent you
- 13:50Speaker 1: have on the team, it's just not gonna mesh well.
- 13:51Speaker 1: So that's that's why I'm such I'm so hesitant to
- 13:54Speaker 1: put it in our place, just because of that factor.
- 13:56Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, maybe the Jaguars aren't the
- 14:00Speaker 1: right value yet, and the bookmakers they're still trying to
- 14:02Speaker 1: catch up to it, and everyone's getting good read here
- 14:04Speaker 1: are the Cardinals. But like you just said, Chad. The
- 14:06Speaker 1: own two trends is what we're playing off of here
- 14:09Speaker 1: and own two trend of you know, I believe it's
- 14:12Speaker 1: have well above six percent clip the last couple of
- 14:15Speaker 1: years of this. The week three teams that haven't covered
- 14:17Speaker 1: against the spread yet. So we we were gonna avoid
- 14:20Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons were owing two against the spread. But
- 14:23Speaker 1: we ain't gonna avoid the Jaguars. We're bad and the
- 14:25Speaker 1: Jaguars comes some day. Well, I'm gonna give you all
- 14:28Speaker 1: the O and two trends and and I blatantly stole
- 14:31Speaker 1: these O and two trends uh from Stuckey Action Network hand.
- 14:35Speaker 1: It was Stucky the Volume podcast Network. Fans can hear
- 14:40Speaker 1: him on John Middlecops podcast every week. People should download
- 14:44Speaker 1: the Action Network podcast, one of the top sixty ranked
- 14:48Speaker 1: sports podcasts. Uh. He and Chris Raybon will go over
- 14:52Speaker 1: there Sunday six pack and he loves the O and
- 14:56Speaker 1: two trends and has a litany of them. And I
- 14:58Speaker 1: know that we're going to get to its team that
- 15:00Speaker 1: we love as an Owen two dog. But I will
- 15:03Speaker 1: weigh them all out. Um, but at this point, the Jags,
- 15:09Speaker 1: it's a pass for me. Yeah, we pass. I love
- 15:13Speaker 1: that we're being mature enough to recognize that that we're
- 15:16Speaker 1: not just saying, oh yeah, we gotta take it. It's
- 15:18Speaker 1: a pass. I was better personally. That's why like I'm
- 15:22Speaker 1: trying to put my best five in this thing where
- 15:23Speaker 1: it's like I I feel terrible about last week with
- 15:28Speaker 1: Atlanta because that was just brutal. These people are such
- 15:31Speaker 1: high hopes. You know, they're only down three, they had
- 15:33Speaker 1: the ball back to back pick six is and a
- 15:35Speaker 1: Brady touchdown later. They're down twenty one. So I'm gonna
- 15:38Speaker 1: be trying to be a little more sharper with this contest,
- 15:39Speaker 1: for I won't always just put in the sharp numbers
- 15:42Speaker 1: the Titans and the Colts. The Titans are five five
- 15:46Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. You like the Titans? Uh?
- 15:50Speaker 1: If I can, I'm throwing a challenge flag. I'm starting
- 15:54Speaker 1: to feel like I like the Colts. I'm sure you do.
- 15:56Speaker 1: It's the sharp better the week. That's why I'm fading it.
- 15:58Speaker 1: It's it's too how can how can people have been
- 16:02Speaker 1: on the Colts when this quarterback position is deceased? They
- 16:05Speaker 1: do not have a quarterback on this roster right now,
- 16:07Speaker 1: and maybe this Ski will come in and let up
- 16:10Speaker 1: the world because Tennessee's cornerbacks are that bad. But I
- 16:14Speaker 1: can't do it, can't play with him, can't win with them.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Uh now, I'm just I would just stay away from
- 16:19Speaker 1: I wouldn't make you put in our contest. But it's
- 16:21Speaker 1: one of the few favorites I do like this week
- 16:23Speaker 1: where if this was Carson Wentz, I'd be all over
- 16:26Speaker 1: the Colts in a divisional game. This line should be three,
- 16:28Speaker 1: three and a half because I don't, like we talked
- 16:29Speaker 1: about all year, I don't think Tennessee as good as
- 16:31Speaker 1: people think they are. But with a backup quarterback on
- 16:34Speaker 1: this Colts team, when they don't have a left tackle
- 16:36Speaker 1: on this team, uh yeah, I can't. Can't do it
- 16:39Speaker 1: with the Colts. So you don't feel like you feel
- 16:43Speaker 1: like there's that much of a drop off from Carson
- 16:45Speaker 1: Wentz to Jacob Eason. Don't you feel like you might
- 16:47Speaker 1: still be over rating Carson Wentz just a little bit?
- 16:50Speaker 1: Carson Wentz who just lost the three points at home
- 16:52Speaker 1: to the Rams. No, I think he's properly rated. He's good,
- 16:55Speaker 1: but he's not great. He's better than this backup quarterback
- 16:58Speaker 1: they're bringing Easton let's he a sixth round pick. The
- 17:02Speaker 1: way in which you just dismissed my comment about Carson Wentz, Uh,
- 17:08Speaker 1: that was kind of hurtful because if he played on
- 17:10Speaker 1: the Bears in the last twenty years, he'd be the
- 17:12Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that ever played for the Bears. So it's
- 17:15Speaker 1: one of those where it's like, yeah, I I a
- 17:17Speaker 1: little bit. The guy was won m VP in his
- 17:19Speaker 1: second year in the league. Um, no doubt, though, I'm
- 17:22Speaker 1: with you that I am. I'm off Carson Wentz though.
- 17:26Speaker 1: That's why I'm not going to defend them to my
- 17:28Speaker 1: grave anymore. I'm I'm done with Carson. Listen, if he
- 17:31Speaker 1: was on the Bears, then all of a sudden, I'd
- 17:33Speaker 1: be waving around at Carson Wentz babbo head instead of
- 17:37Speaker 1: a sid luckman. All Right, Well, I don't know that
- 17:41Speaker 1: we can put this one in the contest. I don't
- 17:42Speaker 1: know that you and I can come to me and
- 17:44Speaker 1: we disagree too much on it. I don't like it.
- 17:46Speaker 1: The other one that I think we're going to disagree on,
- 17:50Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens traveling to Detroit as massive road favorites,
- 17:56Speaker 1: and like this goes everything. We don't believe in is
- 18:02Speaker 1: is in this game right now. It is a massive
- 18:05Speaker 1: road favorite, getting all the bets of money against an
- 18:10Speaker 1: O and two team like how come loss of a
- 18:14Speaker 1: prime time loss and a team in the Ravens that
- 18:18Speaker 1: has a prime time win. Everything is out of whack.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Everything is out of whack. Lamar breaks the rules. The
- 18:25Speaker 1: universe is off of its access in this game. I've
- 18:31Speaker 1: lost too much money going against Lamar against bad teams.
- 18:33Speaker 1: I will not do it. This guy in this to
- 18:36Speaker 1: your career of just taking money from me. When I'm like, oh,
- 18:39Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals are thirteen dog and against the Ravens.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Here gotta take the Bengals. They lose by one. I
- 18:46Speaker 1: can't do it anymore. I can't take these dogs against Lamar.
- 18:50Speaker 1: He just beats the ship out of these bad teams.
- 18:52Speaker 1: And okay, I'm I am with I'm sure you listen
- 18:55Speaker 1: to stuff. And he talked about all the injuries the
- 18:57Speaker 1: Ravens have and how they kind of got lucky against
- 18:59Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I think the lines have been lucky and
- 19:03Speaker 1: that they've had these kind of matchups where they've been
- 19:05Speaker 1: in these games. And we saw golf got affected by
- 19:09Speaker 1: the rain last week Okay, that's kind of his out
- 19:11Speaker 1: there in the second half he fell apart. It was
- 19:13Speaker 1: because of the rain. The guy couldn't grip the ball. Apparently,
- 19:16Speaker 1: um just cannot seeing a track meet the Lions keeping
- 19:19Speaker 1: up with this Ravens team. Uh so we don't have
- 19:23Speaker 1: to put it in Chad. But again, this is one
- 19:25Speaker 1: of these games. I will be betting the Ravens and
- 19:27Speaker 1: I I'm gonna be chalking. I'll probably have them in
- 19:31Speaker 1: a ton of teas and moneyline parladies. I just love
- 19:33Speaker 1: the Ravens to win these games. I think he's fourteen
- 19:35Speaker 1: and one against teams below five hundred in his career, Lamar,
- 19:38Speaker 1: So sign me up, chat, I love the Ravens. It's
- 19:42Speaker 1: so interesting because everything we're saying about the Jaguars, about
- 19:46Speaker 1: why we like the Jaguars in their game against the
- 19:49Speaker 1: Cardinals are apply to the Lions one on one against
- 19:55Speaker 1: the spread, So you have to throw out all your
- 19:56Speaker 1: own two stats. But they aren't owing two team oh
- 20:00Speaker 1: and two teams that are straight up since that since
- 20:04Speaker 1: two thousand to fifty thirty six and one against the spread.
- 20:08Speaker 1: It's actually pretty good. Yeah, but again, there's thirty six
- 20:12Speaker 1: of them that don't cover, and that's what I'm betting
- 20:14Speaker 1: on here. Well, I guess you make your money by
- 20:18Speaker 1: being a contrarian. I can't always like I can't always
- 20:22Speaker 1: do the sharp plays. That's the thing people don't get.
- 20:24Speaker 1: There's something like I took on the chin last week
- 20:26Speaker 1: trying to go against the Sharps, and we talked on
- 20:28Speaker 1: the phone, like we had the Seahawks in and I
- 20:30Speaker 1: was like, I think we wanted to take it out.
- 20:31Speaker 1: I've had too many sharps hit me up there, like
- 20:33Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. So again I am I am one to
- 20:36Speaker 1: be humbled constantly, like I'm never too cocky or anything
- 20:39Speaker 1: to be like, no, this is I know what I'm
- 20:41Speaker 1: doing here. We're taking the Seahawks because one of these
- 20:43Speaker 1: guys now now, Like I try to listen to people
- 20:45Speaker 1: that are coming in with good information, so I do.
- 20:48Speaker 1: This is one of these few games where I do
- 20:50Speaker 1: feel like I will be with the public on um
- 20:52Speaker 1: and I feel comfortable with it. Like if this is
- 20:54Speaker 1: Week ten, I'd probably with you. I'd probably would be
- 20:57Speaker 1: taking the Culture. I probably would be taking the Tennessee
- 20:59Speaker 1: Titans here, But because it's so earlier in the season,
- 21:01Speaker 1: I feel more punkable taking these kind of favorites. What
- 21:04Speaker 1: calls have you gotten? So we did the podcast on Tuesday,
- 21:06Speaker 1: We go over every game. I saw you yesterday and
- 21:09Speaker 1: you said you were already getting calls from other professional
- 21:12Speaker 1: betters about some of the games that we had discussed.
- 21:16Speaker 1: What are some of the games that professional betters called
- 21:19Speaker 1: you about? So multiple calls were about our Washington Uh,
- 21:23Speaker 1: Buffalo pick I talked about I like Buffalo, I liked
- 21:26Speaker 1: um going against a guy making his first career starting
- 21:29Speaker 1: the road and Heineke and man did I get a
- 21:32Speaker 1: lot of calls. So they were nine maybe nine and
- 21:35Speaker 1: a half at the time we talked about it. So
- 21:37Speaker 1: these pros who called me, they've like we talked about yesterday,
- 21:39Speaker 1: and I think it was down to eight and a
- 21:41Speaker 1: half at the time that I was down to seven
- 21:43Speaker 1: on family. So the professionals have clearly they know something
- 21:48Speaker 1: here and they're making a statement, and we talked about it.
- 21:50Speaker 1: I thought Josh Allen didn't look right in that Miami game.
- 21:53Speaker 1: I thought he still didn't look as what he did
- 21:55Speaker 1: last year, where the offense just looked easy and smooth
- 21:58Speaker 1: and he really couldn't miss. And he's making great reads
- 22:02Speaker 1: this has to be a good, right game for him.
- 22:03Speaker 1: That's why I don't really get the love for Washington,
- 22:05Speaker 1: like it was Washington really gonna keep up with this
- 22:07Speaker 1: team where we saw Washington give up all those yards
- 22:10Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones. I just Josh Allen is the Daniel
- 22:15Speaker 1: Jones could only dream of being what Josh Allen is now.
- 22:17Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen is the dream. He's a big, strong
- 22:19Speaker 1: quarterback that can run and throw the ball downfield. So
- 22:22Speaker 1: for me, I understand why the pros like this game.
- 22:26Speaker 1: It's a big number against the team in Buffalo that
- 22:28Speaker 1: we talked about all year. It's just regression, regression, aggression.
- 22:32Speaker 1: But I'll take the bills here. Um, it's I'm a
- 22:36Speaker 1: little chalky this week chat. But now that's down to seven,
- 22:39Speaker 1: I'm happy taking the bills here. Well that's what I
- 22:42Speaker 1: was gonna say, Like, it's getting to a point where
- 22:45Speaker 1: you might want to take the bills because the number
- 22:47Speaker 1: has moved. It's moved so much. The one thing I
- 22:51Speaker 1: would say about this game, Ron Rivera does not have
- 22:55Speaker 1: games in which he wins or loses by eight, by
- 22:58Speaker 1: more than eight points. That's your is not a trend
- 23:01Speaker 1: in his career as a coach. And the only other
- 23:04Speaker 1: thing that I would say about this is that the
- 23:06Speaker 1: total is pretty low, like the totals, and so if
- 23:10Speaker 1: you think, like if you're gonna bet a number of
- 23:12Speaker 1: a touchdown or more, which is what this is at,
- 23:15Speaker 1: that's a big number to bet on a total that
- 23:17Speaker 1: is this low. Again, it's a fad on Heinechi. That's
- 23:21Speaker 1: why I feel it's interesting how much confidence people have
- 23:24Speaker 1: back in them where it's like, I don't know, it's
- 23:27Speaker 1: a lot of unknown with this kid. Um Again, he
- 23:29Speaker 1: looked great against the Buccaneers in the playoffs, the one
- 23:31Speaker 1: game he played last year, and then he looked really
- 23:34Speaker 1: good against the Giants. He's had two career starts in
- 23:37Speaker 1: both of them are at home. So it's I just
- 23:40Speaker 1: can't back this kid on his first start on the road.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Let me give you one more system. Okay, are you ready?
- 23:48Speaker 1: Teams that cover by more than twenty points since two
- 23:54Speaker 1: thousand three the next week eight two one oh five
- 24:01Speaker 1: and six against the spread, So you are going against
- 24:04Speaker 1: a trend that wins at about at seven percent clip,
- 24:09Speaker 1: And we talked about that. I didn't I don't like
- 24:11Speaker 1: that they're coming off such a big win, but what
- 24:14Speaker 1: goes into that is all again, the Miami had three
- 24:18Speaker 1: zeros uh in the red zone, so they went to
- 24:21Speaker 1: the reds in three different times and they didn't get
- 24:22Speaker 1: any points out of it, and two I went down
- 24:25Speaker 1: early in the first So that kind of game plan
- 24:27Speaker 1: was all thrown out because we have a team that's
- 24:30Speaker 1: all built around to the way that system is built.
- 24:32Speaker 1: They do run option or it's not meant to do
- 24:35Speaker 1: run option place. This guy is kind of a standard
- 24:37Speaker 1: the pocket kind of quarterback. He's not really a runner.
- 24:39Speaker 1: So a lot of things changed in Miami game where
- 24:41Speaker 1: it's kind of a fluke and I kind of just
- 24:43Speaker 1: throw it out again. The only negative I took from
- 24:46Speaker 1: that game is I just didn't think Josh Allen looked right.
- 24:48Speaker 1: I still think he doesn't look what he did last year.
- 24:50Speaker 1: That's the only thing that's really giving me pause where
- 24:52Speaker 1: I wouldn't make this one of our five, but I'm
- 24:54Speaker 1: probably not going through just because of that. I love
- 24:57Speaker 1: I love this because it is like I'm bringing you
- 25:01Speaker 1: the broad numbers and you're telling me why they make sense,
- 25:06Speaker 1: but why the elements of this situation actually play against that.
- 25:11Speaker 1: And I can't argue with you at all. Like we've
- 25:13Speaker 1: already talked about, we've entered this new era of coaching
- 25:17Speaker 1: of the non c I a decision. We saw it
- 25:20Speaker 1: with Frank Reich and the Colts going forward consistently on
- 25:23Speaker 1: fourth and goal, the Dolphins going consistently for it, the
- 25:26Speaker 1: Eagles going consistently for it. Um, I can't argue with it. Yeah,
- 25:31Speaker 1: it messes with these numbers too. We had a bunch
- 25:33Speaker 1: of games last week that you should have been covering
- 25:35Speaker 1: are winning out right, and you weren't because these teams
- 25:37Speaker 1: are successful in those positions. Yeah, it's totally true. So
- 25:41Speaker 1: all right, the other game that I know, wise guys
- 25:44Speaker 1: have hit aggressively. This was your Simon says, bet it's
- 25:49Speaker 1: still on our list. Cincinnati Bengals on Tuesday. They were
- 25:52Speaker 1: at plus four and a half against the Steelers. You said,
- 25:56Speaker 1: Simon says, bet it, bet it, bet it, bet it,
- 25:58Speaker 1: bet it. Now it's plus three. Yeah, so we kind
- 26:04Speaker 1: of knew the pros are gonna coming on that, and
- 26:05Speaker 1: it was more of a hedge against Roethlisberger. Um, I've
- 26:10Speaker 1: kind of read that he was he was a little
- 26:12Speaker 1: banged up, and what do we have if we have
- 26:15Speaker 1: a team in Pittsburgh that has a lot of injuries
- 26:17Speaker 1: and a lot of key positions. That's what we talked
- 26:18Speaker 1: about on Tuesday, and I thought this number should be three.
- 26:21Speaker 1: In an divisional game, it's pretty much a coin flip
- 26:23Speaker 1: between both these teams. Both these teams at the bottom
- 26:25Speaker 1: of their division. We know that they're fighting. They're gonna
- 26:27Speaker 1: be both of them when we fight each other for
- 26:29Speaker 1: the last spot in this division. So four and a half.
- 26:32Speaker 1: We love the number. Three and a half. We would
- 26:34Speaker 1: still take it, but at three, I can't. I can't
- 26:37Speaker 1: make people out there ticket. If you're gonna take it,
- 26:39Speaker 1: maybe just take the money line here, because you've already
- 26:40Speaker 1: missed all the value of four and a half four
- 26:42Speaker 1: and three and a half. But for our picks, chat, uh,
- 26:46Speaker 1: if we get three and a half as our best five,
- 26:48Speaker 1: we are a hucent gonna have the Bengals on. I
- 26:52Speaker 1: agree with you, But this is definitely a wait for
- 26:56Speaker 1: the number, play the number, get the hook scenario. You
- 26:59Speaker 1: want that look. It feels this is a like I
- 27:01Speaker 1: had a great at a field goal game. That's what
- 27:03Speaker 1: I think Pitture's gonna win by field goal. That's why
- 27:05Speaker 1: we love the hook. It just it feels you're a
- 27:07Speaker 1: good number for this game. Well, it also it speaks
- 27:09Speaker 1: to that divisional game, right like, this is going to
- 27:12Speaker 1: be a game that is tight. It is going to
- 27:14Speaker 1: be a game where it comes down to the wire.
- 27:16Speaker 1: To me, it's gonna be like that Chiefs and Chargers game,
- 27:19Speaker 1: which is why that Chiefs Chargers spread is so uh,
- 27:22Speaker 1: it's so inflated, and why you want to take the
- 27:24Speaker 1: Charger as well. It's like last week we talked, I said,
- 27:26Speaker 1: I like the Bengals at three and a half, but
- 27:28Speaker 1: below three and a in the number three, we like
- 27:31Speaker 1: the Bears. Last week that number literally landed on three
- 27:33Speaker 1: by hook or by crook. I mean, it doesn't make
- 27:35Speaker 1: sense how it ended up at three because it was
- 27:37Speaker 1: twenty three and the fourth quarter, but it did. So
- 27:40Speaker 1: that's why we're always trying to get the best number
- 27:42Speaker 1: out here, because it is so important these early weeks here.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Half a point can make a big difference. Get the
- 27:48Speaker 1: best of the number. It's an old sports betting axiom.
- 27:52Speaker 1: They should put that sports betting axiom in the Hall
- 27:55Speaker 1: of Fame. They should put it right above the entry
- 27:57Speaker 1: and everyone should have to slap it when they walk in.
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- 29:57Speaker 1: get back to the show, all right, This is the
- 29:59Speaker 1: game that we got to talk abou the Miami Dolphins
- 30:01Speaker 1: with Jacobe Prisette going to the Las Vegas Raiders Oh
- 30:05Speaker 1: my god, dude, pro Joe Taylor made Miami. The line
- 30:10Speaker 1: is getting bigger. We are all over this game. Nothing
- 30:13Speaker 1: has changed for us. The only thing that's changed is
- 30:15Speaker 1: that like we like this game. We like this game
- 30:19Speaker 1: even more. Yeah, it's classic. We we bet this game,
- 30:22Speaker 1: then we take a shower afterwards. It's disgusting. It's the
- 30:25Speaker 1: grossest bet. So we Chad wanted some sharp bets. This
- 30:29Speaker 1: is This is one of our sharp five. This is
- 30:31Speaker 1: like one of my There's a lot of different reasons
- 30:35Speaker 1: to take this number, but the biggest one is Oakland
- 30:38Speaker 1: is everyone's fan favorite. Now, I mean, who the hell
- 30:41Speaker 1: is talking about Derek Carr for m v P? Now? Everyone?
- 30:43Speaker 1: What the what? What world are we living in? Uh?
- 30:47Speaker 1: It seems weird again. I don't want to hate on
- 30:49Speaker 1: Derek car too much. We talked about I like Derek
- 30:51Speaker 1: Carr coming to the year. I thought this guy could
- 30:53Speaker 1: lead the league in a passing. But two weeks he's
- 30:56Speaker 1: people's m v P. Now is the time we fade
- 30:58Speaker 1: Derek Carr. So yes, give me the four and a half,
- 31:00Speaker 1: give me the four. Publics coming in so heavy on
- 31:03Speaker 1: the Raiders Las Vegas Raiders an hour, I think are
- 31:05Speaker 1: getting the bet, so we're we're we're happy in our
- 31:10Speaker 1: position right now taking the four and a half. What's
- 31:13Speaker 1: interesting is the yeah, it's of the bets on the
- 31:21Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders with Derek Carr, a quarterback who Simon
- 31:26Speaker 1: Hunter said before the season began, Uh, he loved and
- 31:29Speaker 1: thought was a very good quarterback. Um, it turns out
- 31:31Speaker 1: he's spot on and only about fifty of the money.
- 31:35Speaker 1: It's evenly split. So that tells you that, um, that
- 31:39Speaker 1: the wise guys are coming in strong on the Dolphins.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Let me give and in the Derek Carr stuff, we
- 31:46Speaker 1: we don't know how serious this injury is to Derek Carr.
- 31:49Speaker 1: That's that's what's making me like betting this so much.
- 31:51Speaker 1: The same thing is we haven't talked about yet with
- 31:52Speaker 1: the Bears. I don't think there'd been as serious as
- 31:55Speaker 1: telling us what's going on Baker and his injury. Okay,
- 31:58Speaker 1: like I literally didn't throw the ball after you supposedly
- 32:00Speaker 1: popped his shoulder and popped it back in. So it's
- 32:04Speaker 1: a lot of Bears, a lot of questions here are
- 32:06Speaker 1: these quarterbacks coming into Week three? But this is in
- 32:09Speaker 1: every scenario, right, the Raiders are overvalued coming off of
- 32:13Speaker 1: huge upsets in games that were very high profile and
- 32:17Speaker 1: very very dramatic the Fins with a backup quarterback, and
- 32:21Speaker 1: in reality from a power rating perspective, from a handicapping perspective,
- 32:25Speaker 1: how much would you drop the Dolphins which Kobe Brissette
- 32:29Speaker 1: playing against instead of to a I did only move
- 32:31Speaker 1: at a half a point, But it's because of sample
- 32:33Speaker 1: to it to it just hasn't played enough games for
- 32:35Speaker 1: me to really have a hot such a high grade
- 32:36Speaker 1: on them. Where Brisset, again, he's not one of the
- 32:40Speaker 1: thirty two best quarterbacks, but he's a good backup to half.
- 32:43Speaker 1: The guy has arm strength you smeared with the ball.
- 32:45Speaker 1: We're gonna see a much different team this week when
- 32:47Speaker 1: he has a whole week to practice and they could
- 32:49Speaker 1: kind of scheme the offense around Brisset and having the
- 32:51Speaker 1: whole offense puilt around to a last week where he
- 32:54Speaker 1: just came in off the bench and tried to make
- 32:56Speaker 1: it work. So again, we're getting such an undervalue a
- 33:00Speaker 1: team here in Miami. Um, it's hard not to take
- 33:02Speaker 1: this number. We love the Miami Dolphins here, just love them.
- 33:06Speaker 1: That'd be our ugliest dog, right like, we don't if
- 33:08Speaker 1: it's either them or the Jacks, we gotta pick one
- 33:10Speaker 1: of them to put in. I feel more comforable in Miami.
- 33:13Speaker 1: I do too. We haven't hornets nested any game, and
- 33:17Speaker 1: I have a feeling this could be it the Rams
- 33:22Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Scared. I'm starting to get scared. Chad,
- 33:26Speaker 1: help me. I'm scared. Tell me why right now that
- 33:29Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are one point favorites, the number is flipped.
- 33:33Speaker 1: They were one point dogs of the bets on Tampa,
- 33:39Speaker 1: of the money on Tampa, so a lot less money
- 33:42Speaker 1: than bets on Tampa. What are you afraid of? Are
- 33:44Speaker 1: you afraid that, like our initial handicap at the Rams
- 33:47Speaker 1: on the right side isn't the right side. I'm just
- 33:50Speaker 1: scared that I've like bet too much money already on
- 33:52Speaker 1: the Rams. And it's like, oh my god, why am
- 33:54Speaker 1: I going against Tom Brady like this? What am I doing? Like?
- 33:56Speaker 1: Can't I just avoid this game? Um? Everything points to
- 34:00Speaker 1: the Rams like we talked about on Tuesday. But this
- 34:02Speaker 1: is just the classic where I'm like overthinking it too much,
- 34:05Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, the Rams, who they beat? They
- 34:07Speaker 1: beat the Bears with Andy Dalton and then they beat
- 34:10Speaker 1: like you headed on Carson Wentz and the Colts. It's
- 34:13Speaker 1: a little nerve racking, but at the same time, I
- 34:15Speaker 1: have to trust my system and trust these numbers. And
- 34:17Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, the Rams are up the plus two
- 34:18Speaker 1: plus two and a half. If they get to three,
- 34:21Speaker 1: I'm gonna have way too much money bet on this
- 34:24Speaker 1: Rams team as a home dog. The Buccaneers are just
- 34:27Speaker 1: so incredibly overvalued. Aaron Donald. If you can get one
- 34:31Speaker 1: shot on Brady, that might be all she wrote for
- 34:34Speaker 1: the Buccaneers this season. I mean, this guy, this is
- 34:37Speaker 1: this is the exact reason you take the Rams um.
- 34:41Speaker 1: I know that the Henderson injury is a big deal
- 34:43Speaker 1: for them at running back, but they also still have
- 34:44Speaker 1: Sonny Michelle there. I can't make us put it as
- 34:47Speaker 1: one of our one of our five. So it's it's
- 34:49Speaker 1: gonna be up to you on Sunday. But yes, people,
- 34:52Speaker 1: I will be back in the Rams. I know McVeigh.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Someone told me he's like oh and three as a
- 34:55Speaker 1: home dog. I don't care. Okay, that's too small of
- 34:58Speaker 1: a sample. I'm in on the Fay. I'm in on
- 35:00Speaker 1: this team, and I really like him in this position
- 35:02Speaker 1: as a home Dog. We are in the hornets nest, folks,
- 35:06Speaker 1: I'm walking to a fucking hornets nest. All right, I'll
- 35:08Speaker 1: be my companion on Honns walking into a hornets nest
- 35:22Speaker 1: because I feel like everything you're saying is true. The
- 35:25Speaker 1: one thing I need you to tell me is what
- 35:26Speaker 1: do you have this power? Rated dot? I headed a
- 35:29Speaker 1: minus one of the rams, so when I opened I
- 35:30Speaker 1: think they might have been minus one or minus two.
- 35:33Speaker 1: I thought, okay, that's a fair fair number. Um, when
- 35:36Speaker 1: we talked about we like Brady as a dog, I mean,
- 35:38Speaker 1: he's great against the spread as a dog. But now
- 35:40Speaker 1: that shifted, maybe it's gonna end up shifting five points.
- 35:44Speaker 1: That's that's that's a big, big, big movement. So it
- 35:48Speaker 1: might not always work out first riding with the books here,
- 35:51Speaker 1: but this is one of these positions I feel corporable
- 35:53Speaker 1: back in with the books and taking this home dog. Um.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Oh goodness, oh goodness. All right, So right now, the
- 36:01Speaker 1: way I'm looking at it, we definitely have the Chargers
- 36:04Speaker 1: as one of our five. We definitely have the Dolphins
- 36:08Speaker 1: as one of our five. Ah, I'm as much as
- 36:12Speaker 1: that scares me to bet against Tom Brady, I kind
- 36:16Speaker 1: of agree with you on this game. Uh, I do
- 36:19Speaker 1: like the Rams here. I'm still you're you're convincing me.
- 36:23Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's a good scheme. I mean
- 36:25Speaker 1: they beat the Bucks last year too. With golf people
- 36:28Speaker 1: people forget that little detail. Um, but we can. We're
- 36:32Speaker 1: gonna talk about it. This is it feels like we're
- 36:34Speaker 1: gonna have to take this one here, the Rams. We're
- 36:35Speaker 1: gonna have to take Minnesota Vikings again Seattle, like we're
- 36:38Speaker 1: gonna have to take one of these home dogs where
- 36:40Speaker 1: we we like these teams and the situation is just
- 36:43Speaker 1: right for them to be in. So I'm gonna leave
- 36:46Speaker 1: that up to you on Sunday. But right now, Chat,
- 36:48Speaker 1: I'm sorry I have to do it to you. You're
- 36:50Speaker 1: gonna have to pick between one of these home dogs here,
- 36:52Speaker 1: between the Vikings in Seattle or the Rams versus the Buccaneers.
- 36:55Speaker 1: I do want to challenge you on the Vikings for
- 36:58Speaker 1: a second. And that's the next game on our list
- 37:00Speaker 1: that we had talked about and pegged the Vikings as
- 37:03Speaker 1: short home dogs. Is it possible that this team isn't
- 37:08Speaker 1: very good and that um, we're making a mistake and
- 37:14Speaker 1: overvaluing the situation they're in and the coaching ability of
- 37:20Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. They're not good. We took their under first
- 37:24Speaker 1: season win tools. We were one of the few people
- 37:26Speaker 1: that were banging the drum to take this team's under,
- 37:28Speaker 1: and I talked about how I didn't have them coming
- 37:30Speaker 1: in second in the North where everyone else has betting
- 37:32Speaker 1: them to come in second. We end up talking about
- 37:34Speaker 1: how we like the Bears better than the Vikings. But no,
- 37:37Speaker 1: this is situational. We have a team that's just played
- 37:40Speaker 1: back to back road games. Now they're coming home, and
- 37:43Speaker 1: we've seen it. The Vikings always play better at homes.
- 37:46Speaker 1: Zimmer in his career is above sixty against the spread
- 37:48Speaker 1: at home, I believe. So we have to chat. This
- 37:51Speaker 1: is just you take a team that you know what
- 37:57Speaker 1: what you said is true. This could be an absolutely
- 37:59Speaker 1: dumpster fire, like after they missed that field goal. And
- 38:01Speaker 1: we know that Zimmer and Kirk Cousins are button heads
- 38:03Speaker 1: about the whole vaccine and everything like that. But it's
- 38:07Speaker 1: getting up to two now two and a half. If
- 38:09Speaker 1: this lands at three once again, there's there's no there's
- 38:12Speaker 1: no world. I don't bet on the Vikings is a
- 38:14Speaker 1: plus three home dog to the Seattle team that just
- 38:17Speaker 1: got ran on, I mean absolutely ran on by the
- 38:20Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans in the second half. And the blocking scheme
- 38:23Speaker 1: is way better with the Vikings, and they ha Dalvin Cook,
- 38:25Speaker 1: who's just as good as running back is Derrick Henry.
- 38:27Speaker 1: So it's just those things all point to taking Minnesota
- 38:31Speaker 1: here in this game. We love the Minnesota Vikings, and
- 38:39Speaker 1: I feel like it might burn us. I honestly feel
- 38:42Speaker 1: like I'd almost rather bet on the Rams on Sunday
- 38:45Speaker 1: than on the Vikings. I can't fault you for it.
- 38:48Speaker 1: I hate betting on Kirk Cousins too. That was when
- 38:50Speaker 1: I lost that money line. I didn't blame the kicker.
- 38:52Speaker 1: I'd blame Kirk Cousins for just being fucking terrible. So
- 38:54Speaker 1: will you have Well, you know, last week we talked
- 38:57Speaker 1: a lot about this ended up the Ravens where your
- 38:59Speaker 1: biggest bet of the week. Do you think the Rams
- 39:01Speaker 1: will end up being your biggest bet of the week.
- 39:03Speaker 1: No chance, just because it's Brady Like. If it was
- 39:06Speaker 1: anyone other if it was any other quarterback, it would be.
- 39:08Speaker 1: But like I have it, and when I have a
- 39:10Speaker 1: notebook with a bunch of ferent notes and one of
- 39:12Speaker 1: the biggest things I have circled for my early days.
- 39:15Speaker 1: Don't fucking bet a lot of money against Brady, and
- 39:18Speaker 1: that has saved me a lot of money in my life.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Chat I'll never forget. In the Super Bowl, I was
- 39:21Speaker 1: gonna bet pretty big on the Rams, and I was
- 39:24Speaker 1: just going through my old notebook. I opened that up
- 39:26Speaker 1: and it's said in big letters, don't fucking bet against
- 39:29Speaker 1: don't bet big money against Tom Brady. So I said,
- 39:31Speaker 1: fuck it. I'll take newing them Patriots against the Rams.
- 39:33Speaker 1: They dominated them. So it's it sounds stupid, it sounds simple,
- 39:37Speaker 1: but I'm I'm happy being the last one to fade Brady. Um,
- 39:43Speaker 1: It's worked out for me his career. This guy every
- 39:44Speaker 1: year just keeps coming back. So I'll be patient with that,
- 39:47Speaker 1: except this weekend when we bet on the Rams. In fact. Um,
- 39:53Speaker 1: all right, here's another one of my challenges. You said
- 39:57Speaker 1: on Tuesday, the Niners. Where are big balls better? The
- 39:59Speaker 1: week minus three and a half? Every trend says, go
- 40:03Speaker 1: get the Packers. Yeah, everyone's gonna hate it too. Everyone's
- 40:06Speaker 1: gonna be talking about the cornerbacks of the forty Niners.
- 40:08Speaker 1: How Rodger's gonna be able to have a field day
- 40:10Speaker 1: with it. Got unlucky with the Eagles. I told you
- 40:13Speaker 1: they did. The Eagle should have won that game. That's
- 40:15Speaker 1: why I like the four Niners in this game. This
- 40:17Speaker 1: is a a team that they had a bad week
- 40:20Speaker 1: last week. They still got the win, which is something
- 40:22Speaker 1: great teams do. Now they're playing a team that is
- 40:25Speaker 1: incredibly overvalued because they had a big win in prime time. Chad.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Their defense, I'm telling you in green Bay has major issues, Buddy,
- 40:33Speaker 1: major issues. And the supporting Niners team still has a
- 40:36Speaker 1: great front. And we've seen it with the old line
- 40:39Speaker 1: of green Bay. Their old lines banged up so too
- 40:42Speaker 1: many too many times, people instead of looking at the
- 40:45Speaker 1: interior line and different things like that, they just go
- 40:47Speaker 1: right to, Oh they have Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams playing
- 40:50Speaker 1: against a really banged up secondary. Just take green Blay
- 40:53Speaker 1: plus three plus three and a half. You're gonna cover this.
- 40:55Speaker 1: Every time. It's literally giving me deja vu. I remember
- 40:57Speaker 1: the same exack situation. I think it was two years ago.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Green Bay went to the fourty Niners. I think they
- 41:02Speaker 1: lost by thirty. So it's it's just a numbers game
- 41:06Speaker 1: where it's a primetime game. I know everyone in the
- 41:08Speaker 1: world's gonna have a money line, parlay or whatever tied
- 41:11Speaker 1: to Green Bay on the money line, get a good
- 41:13Speaker 1: plus number. I have to fade them at this number.
- 41:15Speaker 1: It's just gonna be too much public on a public
- 41:17Speaker 1: dog for me to pack them where. I just like
- 41:19Speaker 1: the number of the four Niners. I want you to
- 41:22Speaker 1: promise that the Niners will be part of your picks
- 41:26Speaker 1: for convince me on Sunday because I know how much
- 41:29Speaker 1: Raybon loves the Packers. Here. No, I did a primetime
- 41:34Speaker 1: game last week. Wasn't that that was my gift to
- 41:36Speaker 1: convince me? I did that? I love I want you
- 41:39Speaker 1: and Raybon going after each other because because here's the
- 41:42Speaker 1: other thing I'm putting. I'm putting the Packers on our list.
- 41:44Speaker 1: We're gonna have a conversation about Diners or Packers the Niners. Um.
- 41:49Speaker 1: But I love that you and Raybon are so opposed
- 41:53Speaker 1: to each other on this pick. Um. I want to
- 41:56Speaker 1: mention three other games. Okay, yeah, two other games. I'm
- 42:00Speaker 1: sorry to other games. I'm sick to my stomach saying
- 42:04Speaker 1: this out loud. Atlanta Falcons plus three against the Giants
- 42:09Speaker 1: at home in New Jersey because you're owing two trends
- 42:14Speaker 1: because the Giants are fucking terrible now they are. I
- 42:18Speaker 1: told you I I liked I like the Atlanta three
- 42:20Speaker 1: and a half. I thought that was the number. That's
- 42:22Speaker 1: the only reason I'm off Atlanta. It's okay, this game
- 42:25Speaker 1: is three. So I just think, you know, if you
- 42:28Speaker 1: took Atlanta three and a half and they get blown out,
- 42:30Speaker 1: I wouldn't be upset with myself because you've got the
- 42:32Speaker 1: best of the number with Atlanta. But me personally, I'm
- 42:34Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take the Giants when they get down
- 42:36Speaker 1: to two and a half, all right, that's fair. I
- 42:39Speaker 1: can be, I can be dissuaded. Otherwise, that's a good trend.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Their own two against the spread and their own two
- 42:45Speaker 1: straight up. So that's why I get why you like Atlanta, right.
- 42:48Speaker 1: And also, Daniel Jones is terrible at home and he's
- 42:50Speaker 1: good on the road, and so the game the line
- 42:52Speaker 1: always gets inflated when he goes back home and plays
- 42:54Speaker 1: well on the road, and so that's really it. I'm
- 42:57Speaker 1: looking at it situationally. But you will never have to
- 42:59Speaker 1: con into me to not bet on the Falcons last game,
- 43:03Speaker 1: because because he's one of the things fans. I can't.
- 43:07Speaker 1: I can't do it to him again. No, now you
- 43:09Speaker 1: actually made me. You actually said to me last week
- 43:12Speaker 1: if the Falcons don't cover his twelve and a half
- 43:14Speaker 1: point dogs, we will never have to bet the Falcons again.
- 43:17Speaker 1: That's true because I just felt terrible making people do
- 43:19Speaker 1: because I felt that confident in the Atlanta plus twelve
- 43:21Speaker 1: and a half. And look how what that got me?
- 43:23Speaker 1: What if I threw out at you the Eagles h plus?
- 43:29Speaker 1: What are they plus three and a half right now?
- 43:32Speaker 1: Four plus four against the Cowboys? I love the Eagles
- 43:37Speaker 1: in that spot. And I know we don't like to
- 43:38Speaker 1: do Monday in a football games, but I will tell
- 43:40Speaker 1: you this. According to the Action Network pro projections, the
- 43:44Speaker 1: biggest edges between our projections and the spread this week
- 43:49Speaker 1: are the Eagles, the Falcons, and the Packers. I can
- 43:52Speaker 1: beat with you on the Niners over the Packers and
- 43:55Speaker 1: avoiding the Giants and the Falcons. But I still love
- 43:59Speaker 1: this Eagles team. Yeah, we love the summer. That again.
- 44:01Speaker 1: We talked about the four ye nineers. They they kind
- 44:03Speaker 1: of stolen last week, where every little thing that could
- 44:05Speaker 1: have gone wrong for the egos pretty much did. And
- 44:07Speaker 1: that's typical in the NFL. It just does not bounce
- 44:11Speaker 1: your way every time. And we talked about this line
- 44:13Speaker 1: is inflated. It's all up to four. Dallas should have
- 44:16Speaker 1: lost last week to the Chargers kind of they kind
- 44:18Speaker 1: of stole one there. Now we've an Eagles team that
- 44:21Speaker 1: really let down better. So I mean, if you had
- 44:23Speaker 1: the three and a half ticket year, sick to your
- 44:24Speaker 1: stomach when all those times they didn't score in the
- 44:27Speaker 1: red zone. So everything you just said it so true. Chat.
- 44:30Speaker 1: We we take the value in this job and home,
- 44:33Speaker 1: I mean a road divisional team in the Egos plus
- 44:35Speaker 1: four where they played better in Dallas statistically they have
- 44:38Speaker 1: more wins and Dallas they do at home against the Cowboys.
- 44:41Speaker 1: We we take. We take the Egos plus four year.
- 44:43Speaker 1: Every time I feel like a money line around Robin
- 44:47Speaker 1: parlay of Chargers Dolphins, Chargers, Eagles, Dolphins Eagles. That could
- 44:56Speaker 1: be fun. That's fun, and it's so gross, but that
- 44:59Speaker 1: is on It's good, right, all right? But I know
- 45:02Speaker 1: we want to I know that at some point we're
- 45:04Speaker 1: gonna want to get to survivor and we're gonna do
- 45:05Speaker 1: that in a second. We like the Chargers a lot.
- 45:08Speaker 1: We like Miami a lot. I feel like we just
- 45:10Speaker 1: decided to throw the Eagles in there too. Now. We talked,
- 45:13Speaker 1: we talked, we said, we talked that we liked them.
- 45:15Speaker 1: On Tuesday. We just said we don't do Monday games.
- 45:17Speaker 1: But I think we have to suspend that rule. We
- 45:18Speaker 1: have to get out of our comfort zone right now,
- 45:21Speaker 1: our favorite five. We're only four and six and we've
- 45:23Speaker 1: got some bad beats in there. I think we need
- 45:25Speaker 1: to have as many games as possible to choose from.
- 45:28Speaker 1: If we like this number, we gotta go for it.
- 45:30Speaker 1: And if it means I have to stay up a
- 45:31Speaker 1: little bit later on Monday night, I'll just deal, all right,
- 45:34Speaker 1: my man. So, Chargers, Miami and Eagles, Oh my god,
- 45:38Speaker 1: we're walking down a very ugly road. I love that
- 45:41Speaker 1: those are three road teams. That's so unlike us. We
- 45:43Speaker 1: usually always take home teams three road dogs. Right now,
- 45:47Speaker 1: even though every fiber of my being says the Packers,
- 45:50Speaker 1: I think the Niners are coming into pole position here.
- 45:53Speaker 1: So it's really going to come down to the Niners,
- 45:56Speaker 1: Rams and Vikings unless the Bengals go back to three
- 45:59Speaker 1: and a half. So we will update everybody Sunday morning.
- 46:02Speaker 1: Simon and I will decide what the final five are.
- 46:05Speaker 1: We definitely like the Chargers plus six and a half,
- 46:07Speaker 1: Miami plus about four or four and a half, the
- 46:10Speaker 1: Eagles plus four, and then we will decide between the Rams, Vikings, Niners,
- 46:14Speaker 1: and Bengals. On Sunday, Mondyline Parlay. For those listening, Chargers, Miami, Chargers, Eagles, Eagles, Miami,
- 46:25Speaker 1: guess what it's time for. It's time for our Survivor pick,
- 46:28Speaker 1: the Survivor Pool pick of the week. What do we say? Chat?
- 46:40Speaker 1: Chat chat? What are we gonna do here? People keep
- 46:43Speaker 1: hitting me up saying, how are you guys not taking Carolina?
- 46:46Speaker 1: This is by far the easiest game they have left
- 46:48Speaker 1: on their schedule, So I want to even like I know,
- 46:52Speaker 1: we don't, we won't. Um. I wouldn't hate putting Caroline
- 46:55Speaker 1: in our contest because the more film I watched on
- 46:58Speaker 1: this Carolina team and the way they play the run defense.
- 47:01Speaker 1: They literally shut down the Saints, who have a top
- 47:03Speaker 1: three offensive line and they have Alvin Kramar that that's
- 47:06Speaker 1: seriously one of the best run games in all football,
- 47:08Speaker 1: and the Carolina completely shut it down last week. Now
- 47:10Speaker 1: we have the same Carolina defense playing against Houston that
- 47:13Speaker 1: that's their identity. They want to run the ball. Okay,
- 47:16Speaker 1: that's how they set up all their plays through the
- 47:18Speaker 1: pistol or whatever they're doing, they run it. This is
- 47:21Speaker 1: a nightmare matchup for this Houston team just because they
- 47:23Speaker 1: are playing at rookie quarterback against a team that wants
- 47:26Speaker 1: to take away the run game, which is what they
- 47:28Speaker 1: want to rely on. So I'm having nightmares because I'm like,
- 47:32Speaker 1: in what world do we bet on Sam Donald on
- 47:34Speaker 1: Thursday night as an eight point favorite? But if we
- 47:37Speaker 1: can't bet on him on the spread chat, we might
- 47:39Speaker 1: have taken the survivor. All we needed them is do
- 47:41Speaker 1: is try to win, just win. It's hard because it's
- 47:44Speaker 1: again we talked to me like Denver because they're playing
- 47:46Speaker 1: against the Jets at home, which makes me feel way
- 47:48Speaker 1: more comfortable. But we might be take Denver again later on,
- 47:51Speaker 1: where I just don't see where we can take Carolina
- 47:53Speaker 1: again again. We could wait and maybe save them for
- 47:56Speaker 1: an Atlanta game, but we know that's when Matt Ryan's
- 47:59Speaker 1: gonna screw us. So that's like one of these things
- 48:00Speaker 1: where it's like I kind of just want to get
- 48:01Speaker 1: Carolina out of the way while this team is still hot,
- 48:04Speaker 1: still fine, so high, and if we get knocked out
- 48:07Speaker 1: week three with Carolina on the road, so be it.
- 48:10Speaker 1: It feels like it's the smart player this week. You're disgusting.
- 48:14Speaker 1: Yesterday I had so much love for you. We spent
- 48:17Speaker 1: so much time together. It was great to connect with you,
- 48:21Speaker 1: fond with you, and remind me and you why we
- 48:25Speaker 1: are brothers. And then you do something like this, which
- 48:29Speaker 1: is so detestable. It's like I don't even know who
- 48:31Speaker 1: you are. What if I told you Travis Reid loves
- 48:33Speaker 1: it as well? I mean, alright good And again, if
- 48:36Speaker 1: you want to see Travis Reid ranks all the best
- 48:38Speaker 1: teams you take in the Survivor contest, I believe Carolina
- 48:42Speaker 1: is his number one team. So it doesn't feel like
- 48:44Speaker 1: I'm too crazy with this read. I am gonna make
- 48:47Speaker 1: Colin when we do our podcast later, I'm gonna make
- 48:49Speaker 1: him take the Broncos alright now, Smart they can take
- 48:53Speaker 1: the Broncos because also because the Broncos feel waste a
- 48:56Speaker 1: million times safer, honestly, but I just would love to
- 49:01Speaker 1: just get Carolina out of the way, just like last year.
- 49:02Speaker 1: We got rid of the Browns in week two, and
- 49:04Speaker 1: I feel like a genius because we have to use
- 49:05Speaker 1: them again the rest of the year. I feel the
- 49:07Speaker 1: same way trying to get rid of the Carolina. Now
- 49:08Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give him
- 49:10Speaker 1: a choice. I like that. I'm gonna give them a choice.
- 49:13Speaker 1: All right, let's recap for everybody. Our hornets nest walking
- 49:16Speaker 1: into a hornets nest. We're looking at the Rams over
- 49:19Speaker 1: the Bucks. Our money line parlays that we like. Correct
- 49:24Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, Chargers Eagles, Chargers Miami Miami Eagles,
- 49:28Speaker 1: three for sure, Chargers Miami Eagles, and we will debate Rams, Vikings,
- 49:35Speaker 1: Niners and Bengals plus three and Bengals plus three and
- 49:38Speaker 1: a half. If he gets there, man, I'll say it again.
- 49:42Speaker 1: I say it every week. Fucking level. We are. What's
- 49:45Speaker 1: not to love, Simon. This has been a great podcast.
- 49:49Speaker 1: Seeing you for this long, over twenty four hours is amazing.
- 49:53Speaker 1: I still don't hate me, Love you forever, brother. This
- 49:57Speaker 1: has been the favorites from the Volume podcast Network. I
- 50:01Speaker 1: am Chad Millman. He is Simon Hunter. Our producer is
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