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Marriage, Mission, and Mindset: A Couple’s Perspective on the Road to 2025 · Everyday Ancestral with James Barry

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  Welcome back to every day in Sestrel. I'm your host James Berry and I cannot imagine a more special episode
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  Not only is this our end of the year episode, but this is our
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  premier
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  episode where I'm introducing you to the one and only
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  Margaret Floyd Berry not only my wife, but an extremely talented writer
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  practitioner and human being and I hope this is the first of many guest appearances
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  But I just thought you know really you're the one that gave me this idea because you did a
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  What did you call this solo cast?
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  Yes, I recorded my very first solo cast this week
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  Yeah, so so you did a solo cast where you just kind of talked about the year and all that and I was like, you know
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  That's a really good idea because I really love that. I mean you and I have been doing that with each other since we first met where we
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  talk, you know, we just kind of at the end of the year always check in and
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  Set intentions for the new year and so I thought well, why don't we do that with every day in Sestrel so to that point to that end
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  Let's talk about
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  first
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  Our year, you know, I think this has been a monumental year and it's funny even though we didn't move
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  Officially at the top of the year it feels like we did because to give context in
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  2022 the summer of 2020
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  Summer of 2023, okay, sorry summer of 2023
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  We moved from the West Coast organ Portland organ to Massachusetts to noon Massachusetts and we moved into a house that
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  Was really like not how we it was presented like it was a lemon in every sense of the word like we got
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  What we learned this year we got mold from it. I mean like it's just
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  Well, it flooded every single the basement flooded every single time it rained and last fall for anybody who was in the Boston area
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  Who knows that we had record amounts of rain? So it was it was really foul our youngest daughter
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  Sasha called it the house with the cracks or the broken house those were the two ways that she referred to it
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  because even like the paint was peeling off the walls and
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  It was an Airbnb a long-term Airbnb and the stuffing was coming out of the seat cushions in the dining room chairs
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  Like literally rips with in stuffing coming out. It just I mean the whole thing
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  janky and
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  Gross we could you just kind of if we've ever been in an Airbnb that you kind of just don't want to touch anything
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  Imagine living there for five months. Yeah, it was really not good
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  But so we we fortunately were able to move pretty you know a few months. We were there
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  What was that three months, I guess and five were there?
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  We didn't until the end of the year, but we did move you say we didn't move we didn't move January one
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  We moved into this place. Yeah, so I moved January one so very much 2024 felt like oh, we we finally are in
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  Boston area we're in Massachusetts and
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  It was quite the year. I mean it was a beautiful year of establishing
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  Contact with some amazing people that we hope will continue to flourish. It was a
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  Time of establishing the kids with their friends in school and
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  Routines, you know you you joined running groups
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  We found a gym and yet there was still also a lot of hardship
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  Do you want to talk about some of the things since a lot of them seem to land on you?
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  I mean, but of course I was affected deeply by all of them
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  Well, can actually we reverse back before we talk about the hardship because there was actually I feel like there was a
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  Marker point at least for me personally and it also kind of felt like for the family at kind of the midpoint of the year
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  Where it was actually very
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  celebratory and awesome and it was like from then that point on that things like I think about this year
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  And I think of a sort of a first half and a second half and the first half
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  I think of it as this like fun
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  Exciting progression where we started off in this new home
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  Which is not a forever home, but it is a massive step up from where we were living before and I think
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  All of us felt this huge sigh of relief of like like the other place is the kind of place you never wanted to take your shoes off
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  And like it's hard to describe how gross the whole thing felt like you showered and you were kind of like
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  I don't know which is worse staying dirty or being naked in this shower like it was that kind of a decision that you made with everything
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  It was so awful and we also most of our stuff was in storage thank goodness because it would have all been contaminated by mold
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  but we
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  Moved into this new place is lots of light. It's really clean and you're like not only
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  Feel comfortable taking off your shoes. You want to take off your shoes because it's just like it's clean
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  It's beautiful. It's not it's not our forever perfect home
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  But it was a just gigantic leap up so that felt so great and the kids were really starting to
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  You know, they're making their friends and they're building their communities and we are making our friends and like really building our communities and
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  for me this really culminated in my 50th birthday which happened on June 1st and
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  Where I ran 50 miles to celebrate my 50th birthday and that probably sounds crazy to a lot of people
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  It's not that crazy if you know my personality
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  I'm sort of this really celebrate doing hard things. I love challenging myself physically and seeing how far I can go and setting goals that seem
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  Completely impossible and then just chipping away at the progress to then
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  Achieve them and it was I mean, I don't know how deep you want to go into that we don't have to make this all the Margaret show
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  But it was definitely a huge moment for me to run
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  That far almost double what I've ever run before and to enjoy
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  Most of the process you know when I've run marathons in the past I go dark partway through like I guide to I start questioning life
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  I start questioning all my life choices like I think a lot of people wonder why I run marathon because it you know
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  Somewhere between mile. Well, it depends race to race somewhere in there
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  I start to just hate every single step and that is not like a
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  That's not a fun process. Whereas this one. I definitely had hard moments
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  But I never went dark and I enjoyed the whole process. It was really
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  It was just this celebration of the city that I love this running route that I love
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  Some of my favorite humans on planet earth flew into town and supported me on and and we're running or biking with me
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  It was just it was wonderful and one it was the one of the really cool things is that a few days later
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  I couldn't feel it in my body
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  And for anyone who's done distance running, you know, you run a marathon
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  You feel that thing in your body for like at least a week if not a couple like two three weeks after
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  And it was actually almost alarming how much I didn't feel it in my body like I was just so well trained
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  And I think I did it from such the right perspective meaning I wasn't out to prove anything other than like I can do this
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  But I wasn't trying to like I didn't need a finisher's medal. I didn't need some specific time on the clock
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  Even my time I had a time goal just to sort of
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  Guestimate you know things like how much food I would need and how long people needed to stay like all sorts of things like that
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  But it wasn't a hard time and I did come in 30 minutes faster than it even with you know taking sitting breaks and things like that
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  So it was this fantastic accomplishment and I felt great right after it
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  So that felt like that was this like midpoint this total high
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  In in the year and then things turned and then yeah, and then you got the call
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  I mean not to go to
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  Two in the weeds with it, but you got the call of potential melanoma cancer on your leg
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  It wasn't potential. It was confirmed. Well, yeah, I mean it wasn't it wasn't a it didn't it hadn't metastasis
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  Yeah, we didn't know how exactly and then and then we
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  We kind of got through that process so over the because it was how long was it until you actually had the surgery
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  Was that a month or two? It was two months, which was a long time
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  Yeah, so it's two months of just sitting in okay
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  What's possibly gonna happen but of course we weren't just waiting? We you know you immediately kicked in to going to
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  Cautiesis do I say Cautiesis Coteira and say wait to hear about it's all the rage. Yeah, Coteira
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  No, um ketosis
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  I think this is was a big learner for me around the cancer scare and I really liked how
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  The perspective that I gained from that from that experience and I'll say what how I experience or or the perspective and then you kind of
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  Trying man if you have a different one or
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  but basically that
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  we all have
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  Cancer cells in us
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  But what makes the difference between someone who has cancer and someone who
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  Doesn't is that those cells are not activated so they it's the environment our internal environment that's going to potentially activate those cancer cells
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  And so any cancer diagnosis should immediately be followed by
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  Efforts towards changing that internal environment so you know how you what you're eating
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  Your stress levels your sleep, you know and ketosis is
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  Been shown to be very effective with basically starving the cancer cells. Is that correct?
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  Yeah, there's several different mechanisms and I will be honest that I don't I I'm not the expert in cancer
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  But definitely the ketogenic diet has been shown to have significant benefits
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  I mean for one metabolically it shifts things very significantly and
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  Will reduces reliance on carbohydrates quite significantly and there are there's the benefit of like not having the glucose circulating
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  High levels of glucose circulating which can feed the cancer cells, but it's also
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  There are protective benefits from the ketones themselves. So it's not just about being low carb
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  It's also some of the protective aspects of the ketones themselves. So I remember when I first got the diagnosis
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  I
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  Immediately thought okay, well, I've been on a bit of a carb party because I've been running 50 you know doing these incredibly long training runs
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  And so I thought well dramatically drop that in talking with a friend of mine who specializes in cancer
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  She was like yeah, no you go into ketosis and you do it now because it's not just about bringing down the glucose in this and the carbs
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  It's about the therapeutic benefit of those ketones and I think one of the things I learned in this is you know as a nutrition professional
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  I have played around with pretty much every dietary paradigm. There is and on multiple occasions
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  I've tried to get into ketosis. It's it's a diet that's out there
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  I work with it therapeutically with certain clients and I wanted to have the experience of it so that I could be a better support to them
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  And every time historically that I have tried to get into ketosis
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  I have just my body has rebelled
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  You know we talk about the keto flu and how you know, it can be a brutal few days or week or two and then you get it to the other side
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  And I never was able to get to the other side historically when I had tried this and I did all the things I
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  You know taking the electrolytes and like I mean I was being very intentional with it
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  I was doing the right things to mitigate the impacts of that keto flu
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  And it just didn't matter it didn't matter if I went into quickly if I went nice and slowly
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  It's just like my body was like no the difference this time
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  You know and I remember thinking oh my gosh, I have to go into ketosis a great like this is gonna kind of suck
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  Except this time it happened
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  Immediately it was like almost overnight. I slept into ketosis and within two days
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  I'm ahead almost no symptoms
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  I was a little fatigued and my brain felt a little extra foggy for a day or two as it just sort of switched fuel sources
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  But you know, I was checking my key tones on the daily for the first few weeks
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  And I slipped right into really solid levels and it felt like almost effortlessly
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  And I was like oh my body knows exactly what it needs right now
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  And what it needs is to be in ketosis and so it's gonna make it
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  Really easy for me whereas in those other times it wasn't what I needed
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  For me, now I'm always talking about the bio individuality of diet and how
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  There's no such thing as one right diet for everybody and there's no such thing as one right diet for you for your entire life
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  Like your needs are going to change along with what's going on for you physiologically
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  What's going on for you in your life what your health goals are your training goals like there's so many different variables
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  And it was just this very blatant example of how
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  Our bodies really do have some powerful innate wisdom and that when we can tap into it and listen to it
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  Then it will really tell us if we're on course or not with a given strategy
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  That was quite the process and and where it led us of course
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  So so not only were we sitting in two months of kind of like oh is a week gonna get
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  Really bad news when you go for that surgery or is this gonna be tied with a bow
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  What was it like a week later? I mean it didn't feel that long then my father died
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  Yeah, remember that was a very intense week Monday. I had my surgery
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  Friday our kids came home from camp after being gone for the summer and the Sunday your father died
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  It was a really big hard week
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  Gosh it makes me like even just thinking about the period
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  I can tell I have a little post-traumatic stress because it was just so intense
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  The lead up to your surgery
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  Elation seeing the kids and then getting that call that night
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  And then what a week later your your uncle died
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  It wasn't quite that fast, but it was you know a week later
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  I got the phone call that he was not doing well and likely not gonna make it for much longer
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  So I while you I think we're still away. I did a quick trip
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  Down to Texas to spend just a day with him
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  To say goodbye, which was very I'm very very glad that I did even though it was
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  Hard and you know it's an inconvenience from a logistical perspective
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  It was absolutely worth it because a few weeks later he did pass
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  Yeah, and yet
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  You know when we were talking when people would ask how's it going?
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  I'd be like oh it's a shit show, but there's so much
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  To be grateful for you know the entire time I never lost sight with how much
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  gratitude I felt for our family unit
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  For the friends and the the people that we're reaching out and supporting and and then of course for what we have
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  You know, we're just so lucky you know to have everything we do and I I think ultimately that is what this this is about today is just to
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  In the year with you know that sense of gratitude and then what's to come?
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  You know what what do we what do we focus you know in 2025 and I think we've already started to see some really big themes pop up
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  For 2025 and there's even something I want to share with you that you don't even know yet
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  I'm announcing it on the air
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  Before I do that
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  What are some things that you're kind of as the year comes an end that you're feeling grateful for?
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  So when I there's so many different things that I am grateful for
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  I mean the most important things is our our family unit and I feel like each one of us has had our own personal struggles
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  But it's like busting through them and growing stronger because of them and not letting them sort of take us out
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  You know watching our daughters find the things that are they're really passionate about and leaning into those things and letting go of things that either
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  They are we thought they quote unquote should be passionate about and trying to drive them in a certain direction
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  Just letting them really find their true callings and in sore and that
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  Like the family unit that we are to me is like one of the most
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  powerful and and beautiful things in our lives and not to me comes absolutely first before anything else
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  I'm so grateful that we took the plunge and made this bold move cross country
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  Kind of into the unknown people always ask both of us. I think well why Boston? Why did you move? Oh did a job bring you here
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  We don't have this like easy single sentence answer to wrap it all up nicely with the bow and know our jobs
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  Did not bring us here because we're both self-employed and can work from anywhere
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  So it was that our our work we have crafted a life that allows us to go anywhere and
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  And so we took advantage of that and took a plunge and followed an instinct and I think it was a really good
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  Really good instinct
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  I'm really grateful
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  We didn't get to the next thing that happened for me
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  But I had a major knee injury at the gym in the middle of all of this
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  Nothing to do with the 50 mile run
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  I just need to say that out loud everyone things runners have bannies and it really they're completely unrelated
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  But I I dislocated my left patella and tors and ligaments in the process and so was on crutches and I I do not like not being able to move like
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  Literally was like life took me out by the knees and sat my ass down on a couch and was like
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  I'm gonna take away all of your escape mechanisms all of your stress management mechanisms
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  And you're just gonna like come face-to-face with yourself and see how that feels
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  And how do I feel? Oh, I hated every minute of it
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  I hated it so
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  Oh my goodness. I don't even know if I can articulate what I saw
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  But I did well, I what I really did see is this constant pattern, you know
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  I'm a really ambitious person
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  I love big goals. I mean the fact that I ran 50 miles to celebrate my 50th birthday
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  Well, you know other friends of mine who are celebrating their 50th are like
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  Going to Fiji or like you know they're doing these like fun relaxing exotic trips and here I am like doing this like crazy
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  Physical accomplishment. It showed me a tendency to
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  Overcommit it showed me a tendency to never stop moving and
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  Little overcommit a lot of overcommit
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  That I really I love running and I will go back to running very soon hopefully
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  But I I cannot use it to replace actually sitting in a space and coming like coming face-to-face with my own stuff
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  I can't keep running away from it. I guess that's what I'm saying and so I have now had the opportunity to kind of
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  Sit in my stuff and look at what is working for me
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  But also what really hasn't worked from or what really can't continue to work for me because I would I'm a firm believer that
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  Even though we have these patterns that might no longer serve us at one point
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  They really did serve us otherwise we wouldn't adopt them
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  so
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  My ability to sort of
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  Work myself into the ground and run myself into the ground is not something that I want to continue to do
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  But it's yielded some pretty amazing things and I celebrate that while I also release that part of myself
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  I've been thinking a lot about the changes that I'm making as I step into 2025 and thinking of them less as
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  I'm thinking of them as a graduation. It's like they served as incredible purpose and I've outground them
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  And it's time to move on to the next thing as opposed to
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  You know judging them as it would be very easy to sit here and judge myself for the things that I have
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  Done or not done
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  You know
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  That are no longer working for me that used to work. I can beat myself up for that or I could just thank my tendencies and habits
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  And let go of what's not longer serving and move into new things. Well, I think that's the theme for both of us
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  I mean and and from a few people we know
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  That concept of what got us here which we want to honor right you want to honor what got us here
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  Will not get us where we're going and so there is a shedding
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  something that I am really
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  wanting to shed is
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  Kind of pursuit I've had for so many years now and I think it's been about I mean it's it started when we were in
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  Portland
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  Where I was just actively trying to achieve physical goals, you know health goals that
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  That I that I've been wanting to achieve my whole life really and I feel like I so I'm either at this place where I'm
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  I'm either not as disciplined as I think I am
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  You know and I was talking to someone the other day. I was like oh maybe I'm
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  Maybe what it is is that I'm I'm maybe more disciplined than
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  You know a certain percentage of the work of the population around me
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  For myself if I don't compare myself. I just look at my own bodies needs or my own chemical needs
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  It's like I'm not disciplined for what I need, you know, so that I need to fine tune even more than I think I do
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  and
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  That's possible
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  But either way, I've been I feel like I've been kind of up against the wall for a long time and not seeing the gains that I want to see
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  So as you know, I've been kind of like talking to different experts trainers and all that kind of stuff and
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  Trying to figure out which one was gonna be right for me and I ended up going with my friend who you also know Billy
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  Billy Bosch from frontier. So he is a trainer
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  That he works with that's virtual and I and I had a meeting with him
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  You say and I I committed I'm doing it. It's a 16 week program and
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  His whole business is built off referrals. So it's like what he does is you know works, you know
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  And he makes sure it works and it's very individualized. So I'm I'm
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  Visually starting. I just filled out the stuff and I paid and I'm all I'm all in
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  And then I also recently did a lot of my blood markers and we're you know working with a new functional doctor as well as you know and
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  like I just feel like I'm I'm
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  Building the team and as you know
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  Sometimes I can get very cheap about that and I you know and in this kind of stems to another issue that
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  Got me here, but it's not gonna get me there and this is a big one
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  Which is and I don't maybe you you know a better way to word it
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  But like that I haven't been paying myself
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  What I should be and what I you know and based on you know the business is doing well and very grateful for
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  Any any supporters of pluck that are listening or of my own journey anyone that's supporting that I'm very grateful to you
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  It's really feeling the love and
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  Feeling the effects of how pluck is affecting people's lives
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  I mean I'm hearing and I'm receiving that and I'm taking that in and it's
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  Incredibly moving
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  But I now need to kind of value that in myself more and so I've already taken steps to do that and
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  I think it's really good because it's also
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  That's been putting a lot of weight on your shoulders all these years, you know as we let my business kind of
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  Grow and get to a place where it could pay me appropriately and hopefully my my stepping more into this is going to release some of that
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  burden from you
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  Which you've carried for so long and I know it's been a part of our conversation
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  You know like it's really interesting you know like so we'll go to these like entrepreneurial events or
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  Retreats and there'll be all these Titans of their business, you know just very successful people
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  And it's mostly men's group and they'll all look at me and think that I'm the
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  Bread winner or the person that's you know rocking it and it's like
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  Nope, it's been Margaret this whole time like she's the one that's been
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  Running two to three businesses seven figure plus businesses, you know things like that like just doing so
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  much
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  Output and work since really since Sasha was born
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  That was eight years ago because that's when so what happened was
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  I had a business and meal delivery service in LA that I we had moved from LA and I have sold and the deal
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  Like they were paying me and then they just stopped paying me and I probably could have sued them
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  We had just had Sasha at the time our second child
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  We just moved I mean
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  There was so much going on and I was so like depleted and done and that's kind of why I didn't sue them because I just didn't want
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  I didn't want to take on another burden at the time because it just felt like my own health was suffering
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  We had a new baby and
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  You your business was starting to pop and you were like well, we'll just I'm just gonna dig into this
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  And then you you be the state home dad and I was like okay, and we did that
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  And then we kind of fell into that role for a very long time
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  But that's also during the time I got the idea for pluck which you also supported that direction
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  you continue to
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  grow and
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  Build your business took on another business grow and built that and where we
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  The main earner all those eight years
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  It's huge
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  I'm getting a little teary-eyed right now. I'll be honest
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  I just thank you for the acknowledgement is it's been a lot
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  It's been a lot of what I have you know, I certainly signed up for it too, but I think
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  To your original point. I think it's really important
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  Regardless of the financial dynamic between the two of us
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  I think it's really important for you and for anyone else who's listening to this who runs their own business
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  To value yourself
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  appropriately within that business
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  I think that it sends really important energetic signals if nothing else that you're gonna take care of this
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  I think a lot of
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  Entrepreneurs will sacrifice themselves for the for the business, you know, and we hear about the big successful journeys and we don't see the
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  You know
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  Late nights in the blood sweat and tears and all of the stuff that went into that and the often years and years of like kind of almost killing themselves to make it happen
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  and I don't know that it has to be that way
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  I don't know that any of us want it to be that way and I think that
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  For it to be truly sustainable
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  It needs to be something that fills you not depletes you and there's different ways for it to fill you
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  And I've watched it fill you over these last few years like just watching people
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  Learned to eat organ meats and and go from it factor to like oh wow this eating it this way is absolutely delicious watching kids
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  Have their their palettes expanded, you know from picky eaters who or don't want to eat anything to start introducing this and then suddenly
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  You get the emails back about like oh my gosh my child just ate this right that and there they're starting to expand their palette
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  Like I know it has filled you up in these other ways
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  And and I think this is you know
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  I get a little bit on on a soapbox about this when I'm supporting other practitioners because
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  A lot of health practitioners especially in the functional space especially you know
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  I work with a lot of functional nutritionists those are my my people right and not all of them
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  But a lot of them find it really hard to value themselves and value their work and charge what they're worth
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  And I think that we talk a lot about self-care in this industry and we talk about
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  We think of self-care is eating the right foods going to bed on time hitting the gym meditating journaling
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  And those are great and part of that self-care is financial self-care
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  It's taking care of ourselves and and rewarding ourselves and compensating ourselves appropriately
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  And not sending this constant message of like everything else's worth investment except me
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  That creates such a wild imbalance. I don't think it's sustainable
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  And I don't think it's accurate
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  It's not reflective of the reality of the business
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  But then it starts to become reflective of the reality of the business right like you start to manifest that reality
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  And I just I think it requires a real
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  A real paradigm shift to to recognize your value and your worth and to take care of yourself in that way
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  As the business owner and I'm speaking to you
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  But I'm also speaking to anyone who's listening who is undervaluing themselves in their business right now
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  Yes, and there are multiple layers to how this plays out and
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  The health industry is a major culprit of this whereas
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  It's rare that I meet a practitioner someone in the health field
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  Who's trying to help others whose own health is is not suffering
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  Yeah, you know, and that's what I was when I had wholesome to go. So there's very much kind of like a
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  Yes, we we need to honor ourselves financially. We need to honor our journeys, you know our process, you know
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  But in general, it just feels like we have to be might like it helps to be mindful
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  Just like we talk about even with our marriage like you know, it's it's a choice every day
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  It's not like you just do it and then it's okay. This is done. So I'll move on to the other
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  Things I have to focus on or my other goals. It's like no
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  It's a choice every day that in your work on it every day
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  I feel like that mindfulness is really also needs to be present, you know
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  In our I want to say our businesses, but really our mission, you know
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  Like it's mindful mission because our businesses are a mission and our mission is our business
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  And that's one thing yet another thing to be incredibly grateful for right we we are literally doing
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  The things that we are passionate about and not everyone can say that
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  All right, so going in 2025 we just talked about what what got us here is not going to get us there
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  So what are some things that you're being mindful of going into 2025 for yourself?
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  Well number one in the
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  commitment space
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  I am looking very carefully at everything that I do and
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  Stopping doing things that are not either on mission or not really you know
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  I'm trying to get very focused in terms of what my goals are and how I spend my time
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  So stopping doing anything that's not specifically within that and
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  really
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  Empowering my team to step up and take really full ownership for their parts of the business there
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  I am surrounded by an incredible team. They're phenomenal. I feel like they take I am very privileged a lot of business owners with their teams
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  It's it's constantly trying to get them excited and on mission and I'm a philic sometimes there my team is
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  Even more on mission and and so aware of what we were trying to create in this world
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  They're as committed to it as I am and I think that's a really fortunate place to be and I just want to give them even more
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  Opportunity to run with that and to flourish. I've just read Dan Martell's book buy back your time
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  And he talks about the sort of the thing that got us as entrepreneurs to where we are
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  Especially at the beginning of the journey is the ability to he is the GSD to get shit done
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  And and I am really freaking good at getting shit done like I am a superhero a getting shit done
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  And yet it's my variability to get shit done that is getting in the way of the businesses progress
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  Not only my progress, but the businesses progress because things get bottlenecked with me because while I'm really good at getting shit done
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  I'm still just one person and so it's really about examining everything that I take on and really am I the best person to do this
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  I'm on the only person who can do this
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  I've just you know delegated my right-hand woman is now managing my inbox and my calendar
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  Which is like a whole new world I realize how much I was just like living in reactive space as opposed to
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  consciously creating big buckets of time to be thinking about the business working on the business
• 31:56
  So that is a they've created systems to enable that because it's one thing to say that and to know it
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  And I've been paying a lip service to this for years
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  But actually doing it on the day to day is a totally different thing
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  And then on a personal level for me, you know this
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  This knee injury, I guess I should say physical level the knee injury and the cancer were two major wake-up calls
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  So just taking even
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  better care of myself physically and that doesn't you know
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  I'm already you know in terms of my diet and sleep and all these things like I do the things
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  It's not that I haven't done the things
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  I think it's being gentler with myself and not pushing myself too far on other things
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  So that the physical self like I just as she just read an incredible book that I honestly think everybody should read
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  It's a should be required reading it was recommended to me alongside that Dan Martell book
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  It's called bumpers by Nick Peterson. I've got it right here. It blew my mind
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  And it's like a whole different way of living
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  I can't articulate it yet because I feel like I needed to read it three more times to just like really understand the concepts
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  But I'm building my quote-unquote bumpers so that I can you know make sure for example
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  One of my bumpers is that I will not take on anything that's going to compromise my sleep or my health
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  That's not the baseline
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  That's the bit that's a bumper like if it's going to compromise one or other of those things
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  So that's going to influence things as minimal or as seemingly in the consequential as what flights I choose
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  To
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  Decisions about what kind of projects I take on it's going to influence all of those things
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  And you know, and then I think about my knee stuff and I'm like and now I'm using this knee injury as an opportunity to really build
• 33:33
  I feel like I had to learn how to walk again, you know like I've been really kind of dissecting all of the movements
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  And if I'm going to relearn how to walk I'm going to do this in the house the best way possible
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  That is the most balanced that is the strongest that has the combination of the mobility and the flexibility and the strength and like all of the things
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  I'm recognizing patterns of movement that I have
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  Compensated for even when before this injury that when I was quote-unquote like fully functional and so I'm kind of building back up from the bottom up
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  And taking the opportunity to just get really fricking strong so that when I layer in running
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  I'm doing so with like a kind of a different
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  Biomechanic platform something that's much more optimal because when we learn to walk when we're babies, right?
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  Like it's a little half-hazard
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  And so it you know if it takes an injury the
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  Gives you the opportunity to like relearn it then let's do it right
• 34:29
  I feel like that's
• 34:30
  It's very tiger woods. I feel like I always associate him with someone who was you know kind of
• 34:36
  Very successful top of his game and then at one point though
• 34:40
  He realized that it it was also limiting him and he he relearned how to do golf
• 34:45
  And then came back and dominated right and so I feel like you're preparing yourself for
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  Total domination
• 34:53
  So something also that you did
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  differently this year is you are really
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  Putting an emphasis on taking care like kind of having mama or Margaret time and
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  And instead of just theorizing it talking about it and maybe oh one day this will happen
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  You put it on the calendar. So you don't necessarily know where you're going yet, but it's in the calendar of the days are marked off
• 35:17
  It's it's prepped. It's it's ready to be visualized now
• 35:22
  I think that that is a huge
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  New thing you know huge difference from how
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  Either of us have handled you know that
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  That time before oh, yeah, I've been talking with my coach the others
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  Hey, and she said I remember when you were back in LA
• 35:39
  So this is what like 10 11 12 years ago and she said you you know
• 35:43
  We finally got you to take an afternoon at the spa
• 35:45
  And it was so good for you when you did committed to like doing it again
• 35:49
  But you never did that was like the last time I just blocked off a day just for me and did a thing
• 35:54
  I've gone on a couple of trips here and there
• 35:56
  But it's never really been just for me. So yes this year
• 35:59
  Looking at the calendar we do our big calendaring for the entire next year
• 36:03
  We did that recently and I realized I hadn't yet put a whole bunch of conferences and yeah all these all the sort of business
• 36:10
  Travel on the calendar and I realized I can just say I'm gonna take time for myself
• 36:17
  Or I can look at this calendar right now and put in me time first
• 36:22
  The business stuff can work around it
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  And that is sending the message kind of like you paying yourself appropriately
• 36:28
  This is me sending the message of like I need to take care of me
• 36:32
  The way that I take care of every other person and thing like business and all the other things in my life
• 36:38
  I need to put me on the calendar. So I literally put me on the calendar for four
• 36:44
  Four-day retreats this year
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  Which is wild
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  It's a big step
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  Well
• 36:51
  2024 we relocated the ground shifted
• 36:56
  But now it's time to lay routes to really like I hope for us to buy a home in 2025 because we've been renting now
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  Since we moved from Portland I hope for the kids to you know
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  Route down even more with their friends and those those things that they are passionate about
• 37:15
  I'm excited you know see and I are gonna go to a jiu jitsu class and
• 37:20
  What I'm most excited about that is jiu jitsu is something to have been wanting to do for a long time
• 37:25
  But I'm most excited that we're going to do it to get like we're entering something at the same time at the same
• 37:33
  beginner level
• 37:34
  And I remember my dad and I got to do that together when we both learned how to ride motorcycles
• 37:39
  It just happened that we both learned the exact same year and same time frame
• 37:44
  And so that was always something that connected us and so I'm looking forward to that
• 37:48
  And most of all I'm looking forward to those routes of like hey, we are on the east coast. I have to accept this
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  Little West Coast boy
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  Curse boy is you know that's except I am now on the east coast
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  Love it live it
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  Accept it
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  The humidity all of men is still challenging, but I'm just gonna let the roots dig and thicken and grow deeper
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  And really just embrace everything even more you know embraced our community embrace
• 38:19
  The careers we've chosen embrace each other, you know, we're gonna be scheduling more and more date nights now
• 38:25
  You know now that we've got some more systems in place and having fun
• 38:29
  You know like laughing as much as possible
• 38:32
  I think with all the death that happened in 2024 from ours our own lives from our friends
• 38:38
  It's like it's just time to find the lighter side of things and to really just bring some laughter and joy
• 38:46
  Into is mindfully as we're talked about bringing everything else in right to but to be mindful about it because sometimes
• 38:52
  It's easy to forget so
• 38:55
  Very excited and I'm very grateful that I'm on this journey with you. I love you
• 39:00
  I did go down this journey with somebody else when I was younger right in my 20s
• 39:05
  And now that I have that contrast of
• 39:07
  Of you and what's possible I could never imagine doing this with anyone else. I feel very much the same way
• 39:16
  Well, I love you and I'm so grateful to everyone that has listened and or watched
• 39:23
  Every day ancestral since we launched we're just a baby podcast. We've only been on a few months
• 39:30
  Marga you have a podcast that is fantastic now it is more geared towards
• 39:35
  Practitioners, but I got to say like I think
• 39:39
  Anyone can get something from it truly like
• 39:43
  It's phenomenal. Do you want to share what it is with everyone? Thank you. So it's called the clinicians corner
• 39:50
  and I interview thought leaders and
• 39:54
  practitioners clinicians experts in the space of
• 39:58
  Functional and holistic health and we do have the conversations from a clinicians perspective
• 40:04
  But some of the feedback that I've gotten from non clinicians is that they really like it because it helps them understand the thought process
• 40:11
  And if they are going to DIY it helps them think through some of those
• 40:15
  Questions because we're not just asking you know if we're talking about a new supplement or a dietary strategy
• 40:22
  We're talking about it from that global perspective of that clinician thinking like
• 40:27
  When are we thinking about implementing us with an individual? What are the contraindications are there other things that we need to be mindful of are there
• 40:33
  Things we want to stack with this to enhance the benefits of this
• 40:38
  How do we work with it most effectively in different client populations and so we found that people really really love hearing kind
• 40:46
  It's a little bit like listening to you know your practitioner chat with other practitioners
• 40:51
  I mean, that's basically what it is listening into the to those conversations
• 40:55
  So you get a whole different layer of understanding on the topic
• 40:58
  So it's been really fun. It's an absolute labor of love for me now
• 41:01
  I launched it and well, I've been doing these interviews for several years
• 41:04
  But we launched it formally as a podcast in June of this year
• 41:09
  I was another highlight of this year and I think we're at episode like 33 or 34 now
• 41:14
  So still at the beginning of the journey as well, but um and you
• 41:18
  The very famous chef James Berry appeared on it just a few weeks ago. I discuss I heard it broke the internet that
• 41:26
  People are listening
• 41:28
  I mean, I'm really excited because 2025 could be of course we don't know for sure, but could be a big year
• 41:34
  Of just cracking open how we look at
• 41:39
  Medicare like how we look at our health care system and bringing in more functional practitioners and bringing in more holistic care
• 41:47
  So it could be an incredibly
• 41:50
  just
• 41:51
  Right bright year for bringing different perspective of health
• 41:55
  And I'm always telling people like if you are looking for someone you should go to the restorative wellness solutions
• 42:02
  Website because the people that come out of your program are
• 42:07
  phenomenal they're they're they're what people
• 42:10
  Dub miracle workers, but as you and they know it's not a miracle. You're just doing
• 42:18
  You're doing what you've been taught and you're looking at the body and health from a specific lens
• 42:25
  But it feels like it's a miracle when you compare it to what most people are experiencing
• 42:30
  In their health care system. So definitely people should go to the website if you're curious or
• 42:36
  Where else can they just reach out to you or someone just if they have I mean, so the practitioner website
• 42:42
  This is called restorative wellness solutions.com. That's a great place
• 42:45
  If you are a practitioner and you want to learn some amazing tools to get really exceptional results with your clients
• 42:51
  Then that we do that's what we do is practitioner training
• 42:54
  You do need to be a practitioner already
• 42:56
  It's not someone starting from the ground from ground zero
• 42:59
  You need to already be either certified or licensed as a practitioner of some sort
• 43:03
  But if you're looking for a practitioner then we have a find a practitioner page
• 43:07
  And yes, I our training program is really I am a product of the program as much as I am a proponent of it
• 43:13
  You know, I took the very first class back in 2014 and it completely changed my life both professionally and personally
• 43:19
  And that's why I'm here doing this work training others in this same methodology is because
• 43:24
  It really as you say use the word miracle
• 43:26
  I don't like that word because then it sounds like we don't understand why it's working and and there are
• 43:31
  They're very specific reasons why this methodology is so effective
• 43:35
  But it can feel miraculous when you have somebody who has been through so many different practitioners and not getting results
• 43:41
  Not getting results not getting results and then they come to us and get
• 43:45
  Incredible results and it's really exciting for everybody involved. So fantastic practitioners
• 43:51
  You can connect with us on Instagram the schools
• 43:54
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• 43:56
  You can connect with me personally on Instagram Margaret Floyd Barry
• 44:00
  If you want a sort of hand me to hand pick a practitioner for you feel free to DM me and I tell me a little bit about what's going on
• 44:08
  And I can point you in the right direction because I know sometimes find a practitioner databases can just be a little like
• 44:14
  overwhelming and you don't really know
• 44:17
  Who to go to so I can I can point you in the right direction if you have some
• 44:20
  If you have a specific situation that you would like support with
• 44:25
  Yeah, well, thank you for joining me and hopefully we'll get to do this again
• 44:29
  and thank you for
• 44:31
  Watching for listening every day ancestral. I wish you the best holiday in the world
• 44:36
  I wish you an amazing new year and come back in 2025 and join us for
• 44:43
  amazing guests
• 44:45
  For amazing conversations
• 44:47
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• 44:55
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• 45:03
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