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The Late Debate | 20 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the Wait to play.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling in for
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Bond.
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  Speaker 3: Caroline Marcus. Thanks for joining us tonight, Caroline.
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  Speaker 4: Pleasure to be here. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 5: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we love shout about so let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up soon.
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  Speaker 2: An AFL player receives a moving tribute after the AFL
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  Speaker 2: declare him deceased, only for the AFL then to get
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  Speaker 2: the phone call from that man saying I'm very much
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  Speaker 2: alive and talk to you about that later. Plus when
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  Speaker 2: we look at the papers, unions in Victoria demanding police
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  Speaker 2: do something about anti Semitism, and Australia's e Safety Commissioner
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  Speaker 2: with a fresh crackdown on big tech.
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  Speaker 3: All of that coming up when we get to the papers.
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  Speaker 2: But first, Stonehenge has been vandalized by climate protesters demanding
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  Speaker 2: an end to fossil fuels.
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  Speaker 3: So you see the connection, right, It's obvious.
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  Speaker 2: A five thousand year old stone structure and gas and oil.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't see the connection, it's because you're normal,
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  Speaker 2: unlike just stop oil protesters who believe the best way
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  Speaker 2: to protest and vandalism against the environment is by themselves
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  Speaker 2: vandalizing the environment.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look at what they did.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it's a lot easier to spray orange paint everywhere
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  Speaker 2: than to actually think. And it begs the question how
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  Speaker 2: did they get to the Stonehenge site anyway?
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  Speaker 3: Did they walk? Did they take horseback?
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  Speaker 2: They probably traveled on a bus using fossil fuels to
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  Speaker 2: protest fossil fuels. Here's one of the protesters explaining just
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  Speaker 2: how useless an Oxford University degree is these days.
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  Speaker 6: My name is Neiv I'm twenty one and I'm a
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  Speaker 6: student at the University of Oxford. Today I'm taking action
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  Speaker 6: with just the ward to them on. The UK government
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  Speaker 6: commits to signing the Fossil Film on Preniteration Treaty and
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  Speaker 6: promises to stop owning fossil fuels by twenty thirty. To
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  Speaker 6: refuse to do so, it's too warrant death, destruction and
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  Speaker 6: suffering on an absolutely immense and immeasurable scale.
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  Speaker 2: Liz the Vice chancellor at Oxford University, must have his
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  Speaker 2: head in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: Do not say you're from Oxford. Please do not say
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  Speaker 1: you're from Oxford. No actually Oxford these days is probably
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  Speaker 1: celebrating that person.
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  Speaker 5: Is very confusing, though it's all in a whisper.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing this because the end of the world is
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  Speaker 1: nigh and sufferingly terrible. To be honest, I wish we
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  Speaker 1: never talked about these people like because they know that
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  Speaker 1: spraying orange cornflower, which is what it was, it will
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  Speaker 1: wash off in the rain on Stonehenge and all the
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  Speaker 1: other antics that they get up to, whether it's defacing
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  Speaker 1: priceless artworks or gluing themselves to Rhodes and just typically
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  Speaker 1: being menaces upon an unsuspecting society trying to go about
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  Speaker 1: their day.
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  Speaker 5: They know that none of that is changing the climate.
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  Speaker 1: They know that none of that is going to force
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  Speaker 1: the government to take the action that they're demanding. But
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  Speaker 1: they do know this is going to get our cause
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  Speaker 1: and our visibility on the platforms the media platforms of
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  Speaker 1: the world.
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  Speaker 5: So I hate it when we give it to them.
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  Speaker 7: It might do that, but it certainly doesn't win over
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  Speaker 7: the general population. I mean, it just turns off more
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  Speaker 7: people to their cause. So I mean, I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to give them the inform me that they obviously so
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  Speaker 7: deeply desire by actually naming them again.
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  Speaker 4: But this mob has absolute form.
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  Speaker 7: I've got to say, I thought this was the lowest
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  Speaker 7: that they've taken it. You know, they've targeted a snooker
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  Speaker 7: championship before, they've even targeted an MP's wedding, and I
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  Speaker 7: think we've got a best of clips from their previous work, did.
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  Speaker 3: Not I.
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  Speaker 7: Mean appalling to target someone like that on what should
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  Speaker 7: be the.
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  Speaker 4: Best day of their lives.
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  Speaker 7: It just shows you how low that these thugs, these
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  Speaker 7: environmental terrorists are willingness.
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  Speaker 3: Too sorry for these kids because it was their fate
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  Speaker 3: to be born.
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  Speaker 2: After civil rights have been one, LGBTQ rights have been one,
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  Speaker 2: women's rights have been one.
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  Speaker 3: So what is there left for them to have their
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  Speaker 3: historical moment?
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  Speaker 2: And that's clearly what they want, their chance to change
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  Speaker 2: the world and make it.
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  Speaker 1: If they genuinely want a cause to stand up for,
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  Speaker 1: come see me.
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  Speaker 5: I've got a master's degree in human rights.
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  Speaker 1: You can stand up for the ending of female genital
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  Speaker 1: mutilation in many many countries.
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  Speaker 5: That still practice it.
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  Speaker 1: You can fight for child brides and a child's right
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  Speaker 1: not to be married off to a sixty year old
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  Speaker 1: man at.
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  Speaker 5: The age of nine.
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  Speaker 1: There are literally countless genuine human rights issues that these.
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  Speaker 8: Those ones are.
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  Speaker 7: They're the ones you hear the activists that being turned
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  Speaker 7: out by these so called yeah, top academic institutions crow about.
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  Speaker 7: It's those actual causes, and I think we know why,
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  Speaker 7: but it's this type of stuff to attack a five
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  Speaker 7: thousand year old monument at this happened on the eve of.
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  Speaker 4: The summer solstice when people were.
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  Speaker 7: Gathering to celebrate the natural beauty and the natural world.
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  Speaker 7: And they're making a point about the so called destruction
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  Speaker 7: of the natural world by protesting that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they need to make sense.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't just vnd lize Stonehenge. Later in the day,
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  Speaker 2: they went to an airfield just out of London where
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's private jet had landed. Here's some vision of
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  Speaker 2: them spray painting private jets on that airfield. Now we're
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  Speaker 2: not sure whether that was Taylor Swift's private jet or not.
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  Speaker 2: Both of those protesters were arrested, but they got their
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  Speaker 2: moment in the sun Caroline, just as Liz said, that's
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  Speaker 2: what they wanted.
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  Speaker 7: They got random the things that they target Stonehenge one day,
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  Speaker 7: Taylor Swift's private jet.
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  Speaker 1: The next modern day slavery that's another really good one
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  Speaker 1: for you guys. If you want to get passionate about
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  Speaker 1: something that actually matters, make a difference that will literally
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  Speaker 1: change millions of people's lives. How about you get stuck
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  Speaker 1: into that. But let's talk about tax because heaven knows,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how much the government takes, they're always gonna
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  Speaker 1: take more. And the men's government here in New South
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  Speaker 1: Wales has decided to go about this by freezing the
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  Speaker 1: land tax threshold. They stand to gain one point six
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars over the next four years by doing this.
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  Speaker 1: But of course this doesn't seem like a very smart
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  Speaker 1: idea in the middle of a cost of living crisis
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  Speaker 1: running in conjunction with a housing crisis, because we all
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  Speaker 1: know if you make things more expensive for property owners,
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  Speaker 1: they just pass on the cost. And right now people
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  Speaker 1: are bleeding out of every orifice just to keep a
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  Speaker 1: roof over their heads. Many, many, many people simply can't
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  Speaker 1: afford to do it that and there's.
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  Speaker 5: Not enough supply.
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  Speaker 1: But here happy you're like this, here's the New South
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  Speaker 1: Wales Treasurer telling us about this new move by the
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales government and being like, don't worry. Most
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  Speaker 1: people don't pay land tax in New South Wales anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and those that do well, they just.
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  Speaker 5: Get it back off the Feds.
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  Speaker 9: Do you acknowledge that the non indexation of land tax
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  Speaker 9: threats will push up rents and impact small businesses?
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  Speaker 8: No, it won't, And I simply make this point. Other
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  Speaker 8: states have higher land taxes and lower land tax thresholds
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  Speaker 8: and New South Wales, but they are building more humps
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  Speaker 8: and their rents have not increased anywhere near as fast
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  Speaker 8: as has happened here in New South Wales. The reason
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  Speaker 8: why I can say that is because these changes simply
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  Speaker 8: align New South Wales threshold indexation methods to the same
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  Speaker 8: that is used in practically every other state. We expect
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  Speaker 8: it to raise about one point six billion dollars. But
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  Speaker 8: let's just get the facts on the table here. Very
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  Speaker 8: very few people pay land tax in New South Wales.
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  Speaker 8: Of those who do pay land tax in New South Wales,
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  Speaker 8: the vast majority claim a lot of that back from.
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  Speaker 3: The federal government.
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  Speaker 8: We're confident that we will be making good decisions going
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  Speaker 8: forward into the future about what the land tax threshold is.
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  Speaker 5: So in the.
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  Speaker 1: One hand saying not many people pay this anyway, and
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  Speaker 1: the ones that do they get most of it back
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  Speaker 1: from the federal government. And on the other hand, he's
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  Speaker 1: saying how much his government stands to gain from this.
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  Speaker 5: So clearly there are a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of people paying it, enough in fact, for you
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  Speaker 1: guys to make.
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  Speaker 5: Thirty six billion dollars in revenue because land tax is expected.
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  Speaker 1: To grow by eight point seven percent, coming up to
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  Speaker 1: thirty five.
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  Speaker 5: Thirty seven like this is this is just absolute nonsense
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  Speaker 5: from the government.
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  Speaker 1: And to claim that this isn't going to affect renters,
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  Speaker 1: we all know you up the cost for property owners.
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  Speaker 5: They pass the cost along. It's just as well.
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  Speaker 1: The maximum rental assistance has been bumped up by forty
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  Speaker 1: percent in this nation by the federal government since May
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. So people can't afford their rents. They're
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  Speaker 1: relying on the government who's making these ridiculous policies that
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  Speaker 1: are aiding and a bedding the rent's being pushed up,
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  Speaker 1: while then using our taxpayer dollars to help people pay
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  Speaker 1: their rent. It's just a complete loophole of idiocy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly our politicians don't understand that old phrase mutually exclusive,
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  Speaker 2: where you can't do two things at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: because they cancel each other out. So to boast that
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  Speaker 2: you're going to solve the housing crisis, which was the
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  Speaker 2: big boast of their budget, while at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: on the sly hitting landlords with a property tax that
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  Speaker 2: they will invariably pass on to rent. The two things
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  Speaker 2: are mutually exclusive. So for them to pretend they're doing
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  Speaker 2: something about the housing crisis, it's just junk.
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  Speaker 7: It's just when you look at the tax free threshold,
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  Speaker 7: the land tax, it's now being frozen at one point
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  Speaker 7: oh seventy five million dollars. Look at the prices in Sydney. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that is a lot of properties here. You really are
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  Speaker 7: pressed to find a walk in wardrobe in the eastern
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  Speaker 7: suburbs that yes less than that. So I don't understand
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  Speaker 7: where he's getting the side year from that. Not many
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  Speaker 7: people are going to end up paying it. But I
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  Speaker 7: do have to say in the state government's difference, you know,
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  Speaker 7: New South Wales is getting a much smaller proportion of
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  Speaker 7: what the federal government is carving out in terms of
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  Speaker 7: the GST.
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  Speaker 1: So they go from WA do not try to convince
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  Speaker 1: me there is a state doing badly by the GSD Carver,
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  Speaker 1: I will not.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorrow.
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  Speaker 7: Many South Wales government is trying to get people to
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  Speaker 7: claim the money back from the federal government in a
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  Speaker 7: different way. It could be kind of a creative way
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  Speaker 7: of re routing things.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the New South Wales in their government, in their
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  Speaker 2: budget are boasting about solving the housing crisis. One of
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  Speaker 2: their great boasts was they were going to provide four
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  Speaker 2: hundred homes to be at least on the cheap to
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  Speaker 2: essential workers. So I've got an immediate problem with that,
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  Speaker 2: Caroline and Liz, because I have a problem with certain
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  Speaker 2: people being dubbed essential workers. I don't know about you,
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  Speaker 2: but I would regard my barista as an essential worker
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  Speaker 2: because nothing that happens without my lat in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: But they've built four hundred, or they will build four
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  Speaker 2: hundred homes to be leased on the cheap to these
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  Speaker 2: you know, nurses, firefighters, police. The only problem is that
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  Speaker 2: there's about one hundred thousand of these so defined essential
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  Speaker 2: workers living in the Sydney area. So the Daily Telegraph
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  Speaker 2: worked out that that would give essential workers a one
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  Speaker 2: in two hundred and fifty chance of landing one of
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  Speaker 2: these homes.
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  Speaker 3: So unless they're playing.
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  Speaker 2: The lottery or they're going to put all of these
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  Speaker 2: people into one home together.
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  Speaker 3: You've got Buckley's and none of this doing much good.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the Telegraph finally worked out that they've got
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  Speaker 2: better odds going down to Crown Casino and playing Roulette
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  Speaker 2: where your chances are one in thirty seven of winning,
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  Speaker 2: rather two hundred and fifty with the state government. So
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  Speaker 2: clearly math not the new South Wales labor government strong point.
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  Speaker 1: And yet the federal labor government are going to build
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  Speaker 1: one point two million new homes over the next five
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  Speaker 1: years starting on July first, guys, so don't worry, they're
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  Speaker 1: on the job.
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  Speaker 5: They're going to fix it.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have enough tradings in the country and we
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  Speaker 1: all know that, but they're going to do it one
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  Speaker 1: point two million homes over the next five years.
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  Speaker 7: So well, I mean, I just take issue with your
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  Speaker 7: definition of essential workers. You're barista to fund your caffeine
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  Speaker 7: habits so that you can come and have this glamorous
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  Speaker 7: job that we all know.
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  Speaker 2: You dolorous and Kayla, it's true.
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  Speaker 7: It's your favorite partnerc No, but look, if we could
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  Speaker 7: do something to try, I don't know. This clearly doesn't
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  Speaker 7: seem to be the solution but we desperately need to
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  Speaker 7: keep more nurses, for example, in the state and the city,
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  Speaker 7: and we need to solve the housing issue for people
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  Speaker 7: like that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean jokes aside.
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  Speaker 7: It's really important that we keep those kinds of people
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  Speaker 7: close to their jobs so they'll have to do better
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  Speaker 7: than this.
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  Speaker 2: You're totally right, It is really important, and four hundred
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  Speaker 2: homes is a drop in the ocean. So for the
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  Speaker 2: government to claim they're doing something now is just laughable.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of laughable, what about the hysterical reaction from Labor
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  Speaker 2: to Peter Dutton's nuclear plan over the last twenty four
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  Speaker 2: to forty eight hours. It's in fact, if you look
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  Speaker 2: up the word hysterical in the dictionary, there is one
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  Speaker 2: word defining it, and that's Labor. Victoria's Energy minister, Lily Diambrosio.
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  Speaker 2: She came out the other day and described nuclear energy
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  Speaker 2: as quote deadly and dangerous, and she demanded get this, Caroline.
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  Speaker 2: She demanded that Peter Dutton guarantee that radioactive material won't
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  Speaker 2: leak from reactors and poisoned communities, despite the fact there
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  Speaker 2: are what four hundred and forty reactors in thirty one countries. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: radioactive waste is not linked into any communities ever. But
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  Speaker 2: she wants a guarantee from Peter Dutton that this will
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  Speaker 2: not I.
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  Speaker 5: Think he's going to be able to manage that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, say what it be wist, I will
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  Speaker 7: guarantee it, you know. I mean, it hasn't happened like
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  Speaker 7: a nuclear experts and we're going to be talking about
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  Speaker 7: it a little bit later when.
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  Speaker 4: We discussed the papers tomorrow.
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  Speaker 7: But they say, and there has not been an experience
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  Speaker 7: where that has happened in any case involving a nuclear plant.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so well it gets more hysterical. Have a listened
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  Speaker 2: to Victorian Premiere just to.
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  Speaker 9: Ellen nuclear energy is toxic, it's risky, it's more expensive,
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  Speaker 9: and it is decades and decades are way.
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  Speaker 3: Toxic and risky.
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  Speaker 2: Though we seem to have had a nuclear reacted just
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  Speaker 2: in Sydney since nineteen fifty eight.
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  Speaker 1: List Yeah, nothing's happened. We're still waiting for the toxic.
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  Speaker 1: We're still waiting for the risk. I mean and saying
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  Speaker 1: that it's decades and decades await, lady, if the UAE
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  Speaker 1: can get it off the ground in ten.
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  Speaker 5: Years, going from ZIP to now having a large proportion
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  Speaker 5: of their.
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  Speaker 1: Energy needs met by nuclear in just ten years.
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  Speaker 5: I reckon Australia.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, she's Victoria. See if emu there's.
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  Speaker 1: No way right, Okay, story lady. It is centuries away
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  Speaker 1: for you, so actually you were talking it down.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be way longer. Let's go to.
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  Speaker 1: Queensland now, where Miles is touting the same hysteria My kids.
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  Speaker 8: Your kids will need to manage dangerous radioactive nuclear waste forever.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, that sounds terrible. You can just actually see kids
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  Speaker 5: in the.
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  Speaker 1: Backyard handling these topic, maybe with a few hasmac suits.
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  Speaker 1: We already do this in the country, Miles. We already
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  Speaker 1: handle toxic waste. We already do have plants here, believe
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  Speaker 1: it or not. And that's going to continue, yes, but
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  Speaker 1: on an industrial scale and very safely, as all the
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: other countries who currently use nuclear can attest.
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  Speaker 5: We're safe.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't stop the Australian unions from sharing this tweet.
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  Speaker 1: Check out what they say, Peter and is gonna make
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  Speaker 1: your dog look like this thing?
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of cute.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think it looks like a sharp hai? You
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  Speaker 4: know those ones in the folds. I don't have a face,
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  Speaker 4: but remind dog.
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  Speaker 5: Not even our mother could have.
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  Speaker 1: But this just goes to show that what these people
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  Speaker 1: think they know about nuclear energy, I think they learned
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: off teenage Ninja turtles all the symptoms because yeah, well, speaking.
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  Speaker 7: Of the Simpsons, the Victorian premiereges into Alan actually tweeted
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  Speaker 7: out a picture a cartoon, an AI generated image.
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  Speaker 4: Take a look at this. So she's put up this picture.
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  Speaker 7: It's very simpson esque of a three eyed fish.
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  Speaker 4: It's just lovely.
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  Speaker 2: These are the same people who bang on about misinformation
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  Speaker 2: and disinformation, and next minute they'll be telling you we've
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  Speaker 2: got to follow the science, and now we've got three
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  Speaker 2: eyed fish because we want to have nuclear.
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  Speaker 1: Power and we're going to follow the science. But they
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  Speaker 1: can't tell us the science. Even our federal Energy Minister
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  Speaker 1: Chris Bowen, when it comes to bashing nuclear this is
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  Speaker 1: the best he's got.
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  Speaker 3: The Liberals and Nationals promised you a sensible energy plan.
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  Speaker 3: Instead they're giving you a risky nuclear scam.
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  Speaker 1: Oh see why, now I'm for your day job.
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  Speaker 4: Don't get into it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he was going with alliteration.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's been talking about risky reactors. Risky reactors
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: that wasn't working now he's gone with Rime. I can't
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: wait to be pantomime next. I can't wait to see
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: what he will do. Honestly, unbelievable.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: Well, look, speaking of things that are unbelievable, this next
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: story is a shocker. No, it's honestly, it's a kind
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: of child abuse.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: There's a piece today about autistic children being radicalized online.
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: They tend to spend more time online at being neurodivergent.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: They prefer to communicate behind to screen than in person.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: And now experts are saying that extremist groups and groups
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: like Islamic State are using social media platforms to target
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: in particular autistic kids. That there's experts that have described
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: children who say have a fixation with planes. Watching one
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: child watch videos of the Twin Towers in terror attack
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: and became obsessed and then became.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Radicalized out of that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: So now federal police has got to the point where
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: they are working with autism experts to target this new phenomenon.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's really concerning that some.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Of the most vulnerable I guess children, young people in
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: society are being targeted in this way, roomed into becoming
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: terrorists an extremists.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: It's disgusting that anyone would do it to children and
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: use children like that, particularly divergent children. What annoys me
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: about this story, though, is the AFP. Well, we're working
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: with autism experts and they're happy to talk about autism
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and the problem with autism, but why.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Don't we just go after this thing at its source.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, we had at the University of Sydney an
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: event where children were chanting for inter fada and Jason Clear,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the Education Minister, refuse to come out and flatly condemn it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: We've had these hate preachers.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I know you've spoken ad nauseum about them, Caroline, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: very little has been done. And now we're read all
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the AFP they're doing something to make sure that autistic
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: kids are well. We've got to look after kids. I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: not saying we don't, but seriously, that's not the big
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: issue here. That's the fringes. Deal with the root source,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Deal with the people who are stirring this stuff up
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: in the first place.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I'm afraid it's easier said than done. They're genuinely trying to.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: They have you are I don't think they are with
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: the hats they are actual.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: No, not with the hate preachers. No, but now we're.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Talking about people like Jihad's online who are spreading this
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: kind of radicalizing materials.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: That's what we're talking about, right, And of.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: Course you can't reach all of them. But if you
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: can't even do things about the hate preachers in our
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: own backyard who are being so brazen with what they're
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: calling for and inciting, then what hope do we have
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: of them targeting anyone?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: What we start at home first?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: And it's all too easy to talk about these people
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: they're straight up online because it's sort of they're out
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: there in the etheris somewhere, these faceless, nameless people. Who's
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to say these people doing it online aren't in Australia Online, Well.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: She give a allegation with person no one can stand.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: But isn't this what she said is a job. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: mean she's.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Censoring the most ridiculous things, barring it from Australian eyes.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Oh you can't see this guy in Canada's post about
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: someone who works for the UN and he's questioning their legitimacy.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: You can't see that for some reason.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, lady in Melbourne made a small video and put
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: it online talking about a queer club and a primary
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: school in Melbourne. No, Australians can't see that either. I'm
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the E Safety Commissioner. I'm keeping everybody safe.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: What about this kind of content, lady.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: We're talking about legit, hardcore terrorist kind of content that
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: is radicalizing, in particular kids under the age of sixteen.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Where are you now, E Safety Commissioner. Surely that can
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: keep you busy. No, she's too busy ripping down the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: most ridiculous post no one asked to be protected from,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and losing court cases to Elon Musk, Who's like, no,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I'm keeping up the video of the stabbing at the
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: church of Bishop Ama.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Ma'ma Maria Mane.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: The other thing, of course, is that we've got every
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: weekend in all of our major cities, and have done
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: for months now, pro Palestinian rellies. If you want to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: worry about people being radicalized, the Internet isn't our main problem.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: There's problems in the streets of Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane every weekend.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And I've been to a couple of those rallies, and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you can't tell me that those rallies don't stir up
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: certain emotions, of course in people's minds. And I remember
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the director of az I saying it was a good
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: way for people to let off steam.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Well, that was an absolute joke.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Anyone who's been to one of those rallies and seen
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the way that things are expressed and what is said.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: If you're serious about dealing with radicalism, deal with that,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: look after autistic kids.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: But don't tell me that's the main issue here.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that those rallies are more powerful than
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the online presence though, because the online presence never sleeps.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You're talking about a rally, even if there's two a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: week online material that is.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: US online nights.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Doesn't something in the real world prompt you to go
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: online and then look for certain things.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I don't think, hort Car.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: It's not an either or proposition here. Both can be
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: dangerous and harmful. And we know, thanks to some of
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: the report that's come out in the past week that
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: there are extremist groups who are targeting these pro Palestinian
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: rallies at the University of Sydney in other places. His
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: Wood Tarier a group that there have been many calls
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: to have banned here in Australia, and frankly they should
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: be banned as a terrorist outfit, and they have been overseas,
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: have been behind many of these rallies. They're recruiting people
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: at these rallies to join their extremist movement. If that
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: isn't extremely concerning for people, they need to wake up.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Litz, take us to the United States with
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: this trans whistleblower.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I know you've been very well Jans.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: This guy is an absolute hero. His name is doctor ETHANM. Hayne,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and he got into very hot water. He's a surgeon.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: He's working at a hospital in Texas, and he became
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a whistle blower trying to lay bare exactly what they
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: were doing to the chill chldren in their care. He
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: was indicted by the federal government for being a whistleblower.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: So much whistleblower protections, they're always there to protect the
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: government from what.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: You're blowing your whistle about, not to protect the whistleblower.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Just so where one hundred percent clear on that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: He is now looking at potentially ten years in prison
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: for trying to save these kids from what I and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: probably you two would call outright mutilation.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Here he is talking on Fox News.
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's exactly what's happening. I mean, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: standing in that courtroom and hearing those words, you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: facing up to ten years in federal prison is terrifying,
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: and you think about everything I can miss, you know,
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: my family, the birth of my first daughter, the first
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: few years of her life. But there's something greater to fear,
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: and that's the fear of not doing something. Because the
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: world we deliver our children into, you know, the world
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: is that going to be if we don't stand up.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: The world needs more men like this.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: This may cost me dearly personally, but it's worth it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So what he did and why he's been indicted on
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: four felony charges, is he got documents from the hospital
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that he was working at in Texas and leaked them
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to a reporter. Those documents showed that the hospital was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: still running a gender clinic over a year after it
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: claimed it had been shut down, and it had been
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: shut down for very good reasons, and yet they kept practicing.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Those are his allegations.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: He's got the proof to prove it, and this is
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: what he's been indicted for on four felony charges.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: You'd think they'd just.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Be like, oh, thank god, someone speaking out. Clearly, we
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: can see from the documents you've got here. This is dodgy,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: dodgy business going on. No, he's the criminal.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Well, within days of the documents being published, the Texas
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: authorities moved to outlaw so it was illegal for them
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to do any gender therapy or whatever you call it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: So the law was actually changed because of this whistleblower.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: And then he gets a knock on the door from
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: police and he finds himself in court. So what's that
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: old expression, no good deed goes unpunished.
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: Well, the irony here is that the indictment says that
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: he caused malicious harm to the pediatric patients who weren't
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: identified in the documents that were leaked.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: But somehow they were.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: More harmed by the leaking of the story than by
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: some of the treatments that the hospital was not supposed
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: to be administering anymore, because it was meant to have
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: shut down this clinic. So you're telling me these children
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: were more harmed by the leaking of a story than
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: by irreversible treatments. Potentially that will mean that their future
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: could be seriously compromised in terms of their health, their sterility,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: so many other factors. I mean, we've seen increasing evidence,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: including in this landmark cast review in Britain, that these
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: sorts of treatments for young people cause more harm.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Than good and need to be seriously scrutinized.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So clearly law enforcement were not worried about the leak
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: so much as protecting ideology, which is what TikTok seemed
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to be worried about as well. I want to show
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you an advertisement that has been banned from TikTok because
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: they say it breaches community standards. The ad is encouraging
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: young girls to stand up for themselves and their right
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: to play sport against other girls. Have look at this
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: and tell me if you think it breaches community standards,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: if you.
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: Think girls and women's equality matter, or stand up if
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: girls and women's sports matter and you want your daughters
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: to have the same opportunity you had, stand up if
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: you know that it isn't fair or see to allow males.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: To compete in girls sports, because as well obvious.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Stand up. Don't be cosby people who you're bigot.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: You're not.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: It began.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: So you have it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: According to TikTok, encouraging young girls to stand up for
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: their rights as young girls breaches community standards.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Can't have that. Don't tell me this is not ideological.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: It's hot pile all.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: It's ideological.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: This training that now to be pro women in any way,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: shape or form is to be anti trans and so
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you can't be avowedly, Oh, I'm standing up for women's
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: only spaces. I'm standing up for women's only sport. By definition,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it has to be all women otherwise it's unfair.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: Here we have someone just stating what is black and white.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: And we've always known that, which is why we've always.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Had male female separate competitions to begin with.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: And yet TikTok won't hear of it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And what's interesting is we know in China they have
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a very different TikTok they do, so you can bet
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: your bottom dollar this has been ripped off TikTok across
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the West. It probably never even appeared in the first
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: place in China. Or are they more than happy to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: provoke those conservative values on home soil while they pollute
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the rest the West rather, which is the rest basically
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: by not allowing them to be like, hey, here's a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: counter voice as opposed to all the pro trans lgbt
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: IQ stuff that they're getting slammed with all over TikTok.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Caroline, Well, it's ironic because I don't think they're worrying
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: about this stuff in China, and that's why they're, you know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: such a dominant world power, and their kids are leaps
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: and bounds above the Western world in terms of academics.
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: You know, obviously they're a leader in sport. I don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: think they'd be worrying about this stuff. So the fact
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: that their own platform is having to say but we
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: know on TikTok it's it's the wrong.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I mean the crowd that needs to hear that message
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: because it's obviously a very left leaning young audience.
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: I really liked a particular line in this ad which
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: we didn't show in that clip, which is we don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: need men to tell us how to be good girls
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: or good women. And I thought that just sums it up, Like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: when did it start becoming okay for the trans lobby
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: to tell women how they can be good women? We
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: should we should not be putting up with that, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: we don't. I know, we speak out about it, but
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: too many people are afraid to because of this kind
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: of censorship and bullying of that message.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Well, you're speaking about schools. Look at this school in Lancaster,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: New York. Let me give you some background before I
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: show you a meeting that took place with the district
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: school board. The problem began when a young girl came
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: home and told her mum that they'd been given a
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: quiz in class.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Now, this quiz had nothing to do with their grades.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't part of the curriculum, but the teacher just
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: decided to quiz the kids and ask them what is gender. Well,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: this girl wrote down that gender is what you're born
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: with your either male or female, upon which the teacher
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: told her that was incorrect and demanded that the girl
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: cross it out and right instead, gender is whatever you
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: identify as. Now, this mum went to the school board
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: and complained that when her child had been bullied for
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: not buying Pride badgers, she'd remain silent.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: When a Christmas tree was put up in.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: The classroom and decorated with Pride flags, she'd remained silent.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But now that not only were the family's Christian beliefs
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: but scientific facts being compromised, she'd had enough, so she
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: turned up with dozens dozens of other parents.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: They actually had.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: A band around their arms with the initials HMP. High
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: maintenance parents, they called themselves, and I reckon, we need
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a few more high maintenance parents.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: I think they do. You call them times parents. This
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: is asking for the most basic.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I take your Pointill.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Have a look at this dad.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He gets up and he lets the school board have it,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: explaining why his children are no longer at that school.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: At one time I had three dollars in the Lancaster school.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: One has graduated in twenty twenty.
• 33:22
  Speaker 12: The other two now received private education. And the reason
• 33:25
  Speaker 12: they receive private education and do not attend Lancaster public
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: schools is because of the harmful, inconsistent, unsustainable agenda that
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: is being normalized. And he into the school ten years
• 33:39
  Speaker 12: and curriculum.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: So he calls out to the school board, you're running
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: an agenda clearly here, and you'll note the applause he
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: got from parents seated behind him. Then he explained that
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: he was sick of his children being bullied at school
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: because of the agenda being pushed.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: It's very good.
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: Have a listen the religion being push here for days
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: in silence and recognition in laws, the demand I shall say,
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: not say speaking, not speaking tonight, I will speak up
• 34:10
  Speaker 12: from my children and your children alife, because you are
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: my neighbors.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Bullying is bullying, whether it comes.
• 34:17
  Speaker 12: From the students, faculty, the school board or your parents.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Just as being shoved into a.
• 34:25
  Speaker 12: Locker is bullying. Being made to look like the unloving
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: intolerance student is awesome.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: And again the applause he gets from parents who clearly
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: have had enough of their children being indoctrinated when they're
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: supposed to learn to read and write well.
• 34:42
  Speaker 7: This is certainly not an issue that is just isolated
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: to the US. It is a very big issue here
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: in Australia too, And just a couple of weeks ago,
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: I covered the story about how Gina ryan Hart, the
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: richest person in the country, was backing at the school
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: community at a very elite girl's school in Perth, an
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Anglican school for girls, one of the oldest schools in
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: the area, because there was more and more radical gender
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: theory in the school. I mean that they were teaching
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: the kids they're having a volver doesn't necessarily mean you're
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: a woman. I spoke to parents who there had been
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: a test very similar to what we just showed before,
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: where they were asked how many genders they were, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: the student again in that circumstance, put to and they
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: were told it was seventy two or whatever.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: The current correct answer is.
• 35:31
  Speaker 7: It is very much a trend that's happening around the world.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: It's just a shame we don't have school boards like
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: this here in Australia where parents can directly tackle administrators
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: over it.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Parents have to be so on the ball nowadays because
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: we know this is happening in Australia. Do It was
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: just a couple of nights ago we were talking about
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: a report from the IBA.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: They'd gone through the new Kindy curriculum.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We're not even talking about primary school here, we are
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: talking about Kindy and they pulled out a hun and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: forty nine references to diversity, equity, inclusion, not one mention
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of mum, dad, parents even I've said it before, I'll
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: say it a thousand times. The state wants parents' jobs.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And this is the new religion being voisted upon kids.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: They took actual religion out.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Of the schools. This is the new agenda.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: And the Marxists throughout history, the Communists throughout history have
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: known this so well. There's so many famous quotes of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: them talking about the fact that you give us the children,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: he alone, who owns the youth, gains the future, said Hitler.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: They understood this and the West needs to wake up
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: and understand it as well.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're going to go to a break.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers, including the unions in Victoria finally demands
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: something to be done about anti Semitism.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: That's coming up in just a moment.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: All right, let's take a look at what's making news
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers so you hear it from us first.
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  Speaker 3: We'll start with the.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph, which of course is talking about the nuclear
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: hysteria going around the country at the moment, propagated by
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the Labor Party. The headline Marines reads running scared PM's
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: feeble attack on nuclear power. Anthony Albanezi and his ministers
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: are running a deeply embarrassing scare campaign over nuclear power.
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  Speaker 2: One of Australia's top scientists, says award winning nuclear researcher
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: doctor LD Patterson, he's the former boss of the Australian
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Nuclear Science and Technology Organization, says that it's just embarrassing
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and ridiculous for the Prime Minister to be raising all
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: this hysteria over nuclear power, especially when you consider we're
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: about to get nuclear powered submarines as the key part
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  Speaker 2: of our defense force.
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  Speaker 3: None of it makes sense.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And of course, to prove the point, just to have
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a look at this post that was put up by
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Employment Minister Andrew Lee, there is the koala I guess blinky.
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  Speaker 5: Bill with think he's wearing the Chinese flag for over.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, of course the main point Liz is his eyes.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: He's got three eyes because he was in one of
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: those electorates where Peter Dutton, the evil opposition leader, is
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: proposing a nuclear It is embarrassing, just as this nuclear
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: expert says.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: And yet that's the state of our political discood.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: It's so childish, right, Like, no, they're not actually mounting
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: intelligent arguments.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: They're saying, oh, it's going to cost so much.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: It's going to cost a drop in the bucket compared
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to your one point two to one point five trillion
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: dollar green energy scheme. And that's not even the definite
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: price tag. It's just one of those hopeful gauges. If
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the CSIRO were saying that each plant and Dunton's talking
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: about eight would cost in the vicinity of eight billion dollars.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: That's a bargain. Where do I sign.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They're saying that, oh, danger changer, it's toxic. Look at
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: any the countries that use this to power. I mean,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: it's called the workhorse of America for a reason, so
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: much of the Western world in particular, and now relying
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: on this. We've got some of the biggest, biggest uranium
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: deposits in the world and we're not taking.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Advantage of it a way, so to speak.
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: But you know what the irony of well, it's not
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: really an irony, but it's just the sad part is
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: when the left don't have facts to counter with, they
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: always rely on these the sort of cheap emotive rubbish.
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: It didn't work for you in the Voice when you
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: tried that, when you accused Australians of being racist and
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: saying that there was a misinformation campaign against it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: How did it work out for you then?
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: And now to pull out these silly cartoons that belong
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: in the Simpsons rather than actually looking at the countries
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: that have succeeded using nuclear patches.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Why their argument will back fire because Australians are not
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: as stupid as the government believes them to be. And
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: they'll see straight through this and think if that's if
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: a three eyed blinky Bill Koala is the best argument
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you've got bring on nuclear power, Yes exactly, Caroline, take
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: us to the Australian.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Australian has got something.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: This is this is the Union actually talking sense.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: The Union Union leader Luke Hillacari is urging Victoria police
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: to treat the pro Palestine in attacks on electorate officers
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: and trades hall more seriously, branding the vandals cowards and morons.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Now these strong words come, of course, after Labor MP
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: Josh Burns's electorate office was vandalized. I mean vandalized isn't
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: a strong enough word. There was an arson attack that
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: was disgusting, anti Semitic horns painted on him and the
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: words Zionism is fascism.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: They put the lives of residents that lived above that
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: building at risk.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: This union leader is calling for police to take it
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: more seriously because at this point, all these attacks that
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: are happening on politicians' offices, and they've been several and
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: union buildings have been dealt with at a local police
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: unit level and it just doesn't seem to be treating
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: it with a seriousness that it now deserves.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I've mixed feelings on this because I agree with them
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: it needs to be treated far more harshly. But it's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: only now that a trade union hall has been vandalized
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: they want this treated more seriously, which begs the question
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: more seriously than what more seriously than Jewish shops being vandalized,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: more seriously than Jewish schools being vandalized, more seriously than
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a Jewish MP's office being set on fire? Yea, how
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: serious do you want to get and why weren't we
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: getting serious seven months ago? So welcome to the party,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Melbourne unions. Better late than never, But gim they took
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: their time getting well now.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: They've got a personal vest the truth.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Now we care.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Now we're on board down with anti Semitism. To the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: second splash on the front of the oars E Safety
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Code to rain in recalcitrant tech titans tell us more
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: tech giants will be forced to tackle child's sexual abuse
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and pro terror material on their platforms under mandatory standards
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to be imposed by the E Safety Commissioner.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: After resistance from some of the world's.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Biggest companies to tackle a borrent material.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Look, this sounds marvelous, and.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Of course nobody with a single fire and neuron would argue,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: oh no, we can't have that. It sounds yep, great,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: do that. However, I've seen Elon Musk talk at length
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: about this, in particular because e says if something breaks
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the law, if someone posts content in a country that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: breaks the law, obviously child exploitative material, like we're talking
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: about with regards to this article, it comes down. It
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't get to stay on the platform. So reading it,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: one goes, oh, well, this is marvelous. Absolutely that stuff
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be online. But when you know that these guys
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: already take great pains to ensure that any sicko's posting
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: it on their platforms are shut down quick.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Smart, you're like, are you just blowing hot air to
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: sound good?
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: And this is where the E Safety Commissioner has done
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: herself and major dis service, because when you're blowing hot
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: air over something as serious as child pornography, but five
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: minutes ago you were blowing hot air about, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: a post that you didn't like because someone pointed out
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: that a man dress as a woman was actually a man.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: A Greeny video on YouTube.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: It was like excessive violence.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Well then everything that E Safety commissioner says, you go, yeah, take.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: That with a music exactly.
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: I don't think she can be trusted at this point
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: ye to determine for what is too dangerous to have
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: on the platform.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: But you're right.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: I mean it's difficult to argue against obviously anything to
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: do with child's sexual abuse. And I've seen plenty of
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: what I would describe as material that's pro terror. I
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: mean there's actual terrorist propaganda videos that I've seen on
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: x and being posted and shared by Australians. So I mean,
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: I would like to see that tackled more. But it
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: is a slippery slope as well, because are they using
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: this to just justify taking a more authoritarian approach.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Office And she's undermined her own trust with the Australian community,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: which now effectively makes her pretty useless.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in this.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Article she literally says that these messaging apps, these platforms
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: that she's talking about are quote free havens for pedophiles. Like,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: like I just said, no, these platforms already have very
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: stringent things in place to ensure or that they're not
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the ones.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: What's the word profligating, propagating.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: That's good enough. It'll come to me at like three am.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: I'll set hold up right in, Ben, Let's.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Go to the front page of the Gold Coast Bulletin,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: where the chip drinks row continues. Last night we talked
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: about the fact the paper was reporting that a nightclub
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: in the major tourist strip there at Surface Paradise, was
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: offering three dollars drinks.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kaylee, well bhie.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: The headline today reads or tomorrow rather no more race
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: to bottom. The state Nightclub watchdog has ordered a meeting
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: of Surface Paradise operators to crack down on huge drinks discounts.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: So the Office of Liquor and Gaming Regulation will get
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: all the nightclub owners together to talk about whether or
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: not they should be offering drinks for three dollars. The argument,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of course, is other nightclubs will all go broke if
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: you do this.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: The regulator, I think, is more concerned about unruly behavior.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Nannyday, leave the free market.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Alone, get out of it, out laws.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: We got to go to a break, but stick around
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: when we come back. A former AFL great finds out
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that he's deceased and has to bring the AFL to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: say no, I'm still alive. Well, the AFL had its
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ceremony on Tuesday night. I wasn't watching,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: but neither was former Hawthorne great Michael Porter. He was
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: out for dinner when his phone started going off with
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: people calling to find out if he was okay because
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the AFL broadcast had just announced that he was deceased
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and were memorializing him. He got several phone calls before
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: finally he called someone at the AFL to let them know, Hey,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: you've just told the whole country I'm deceased. I'm actually
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: out for dinner. Well, this is course has caused hysterics.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Have a listened to former Hawthorne player John Kennedy Junior.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: He was interviewed about this just the other night.
• 46:53
  Speaker 13: Well, I love to see went out to Michael Porter,
• 46:56
  Speaker 13: who played in the seventy one Grand Final. Nick port
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: OL's like he was noted just deceased last night on
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: the AFL Hall of Fame. He was one of the
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: deceased people. The issue is he's alike, So Portoles, if
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: you're listening later or you're up there in New South Wales,
• 47:19
  Speaker 13: let us know when the wake is.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Because where will be all there.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: So could you imagine being out for dinner and everyone's
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: going to say you were dead?
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: It could have been one of those funerals Carrow, that
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you were just talking about in the break, where people
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: just have these funerals before they die.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Now to living funerals. It's a real trend apparently, because
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: you get to.
• 47:45
  Speaker 7: You miss out on all the good stuff and nice, lovely,
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: heartwarming stuff people say about you if you're not at
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: your funeral, So why not have it while.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: You're still alive and then you can hear everyone you
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: know talk here?
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Do you lie in the coffin?
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think it goes that far.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you sit at the back or
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: you're watching on another screen or something.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: It's all very awkward.
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: But I have to say, I mean, I thought in
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: a television newsroom. Every TV newsroom does this. They prepare
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: eulogies for people who are either very.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Old, high profile, like the Queen had one for years.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: You'll just update periodically with any new information so it's
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: ready to go. And it feels like this is like
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: that accidentally, Eric, So I think someone just pressed go
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: too quick on this line.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: You know, have people go on Wikipedia and they update
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: their own Wikipedia thing. If you worked in the TV newsroom,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: you could go onto the Yes server, find your obituary
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: and just you know, put in some.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Nice speak it a bit most loved worker at this
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: place of work.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: But hey, he could have had that because all the
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: people calling him would have been.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Like, mate, thought you were gone, love you having that
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: moment where you think you've lost someone that you love.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: It when he actually Clark sets, it's like in memorial
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: for real this time, guys, that's.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: All we've got time for sticking around. Coming up in
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: just a moment is the rita penahesia m h