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Speaker 1: King, is the bold perform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight? The crippling weakness of the Albanize government now e're
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Speaker 2: funding terrorists in two ways. Plus the Reserve Bank says sorry,
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Speaker 2: no interest rate cuts likely for Christmas. But the Treasurer
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Speaker 2: once again blames the rest of the world, not himself.
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Speaker 2: There is a big international element, really. Plus the latest
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Speaker 2: Brittany Higgins court case praises new questions about why labor
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Speaker 2: paid more than two million dollars of your money. And
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Speaker 2: yet another day of rights in Britain, this time by
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Speaker 2: Muslim vigilantes and others, even attacking journalists. Also tonight, Mega
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Speaker 2: Markel is back playing the victim card again. Is it
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Speaker 2: warning to the King? But first the Albanies of government's
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Speaker 2: Middle East and poes have become a disgrace and I
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Speaker 2: just don't mean, you know how it won't properly call
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Speaker 2: out Islam as hate preachers, or won't lead in fighting
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Speaker 2: due hatred. It's got worse. New evidence now that its
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Speaker 2: AID has actually been funding hamasteris new evidence that it's
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Speaker 2: slanted Israel by not disclosing key fats about his accidental
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Speaker 2: killing of an Australian aid worker. And new evidence today
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Speaker 2: that it's going soften your arm. Incredible. Let me show
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Speaker 2: you first funding terrorists. UNRAH, which is the United Nations
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Speaker 2: body that looks after so called Palestinian refugees for seventy
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Speaker 2: years plus, has just admitted it's had at least nine
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Speaker 2: staff in Gaza that Evan suggests may have taken part
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Speaker 2: in the slaughter of twelve hundred Israelis on October seven
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Speaker 2: and the kidnappings like this man in black filmed outside
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Speaker 2: of Kibbutz moving a body. UNRAH has fired them but
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Speaker 2: doesn't actually know where they are.
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Speaker 3: The evidence obtained by Oyos indicated that the unrushed staff
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Speaker 3: members may have been involved in the armed attacks of
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Speaker 3: September of the seventh of October twenty twenty three. The
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Speaker 3: employment of these individuals will be terminated. Are any of
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Speaker 3: them in Israeli custody?
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Speaker 4: Where are they a real there?
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Speaker 3: I don't have a case by a case amount of information.
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Speaker 3: I believe that they're not. I believe that they're not
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Speaker 3: people who are currently in custody.
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Speaker 2: There are another nine stuff when says accused, but it
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Speaker 2: can't find enough evidence to sack them too, Like you know,
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Speaker 2: I couldn't find the evidence that Hamas terrorists had actually
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Speaker 2: hidden tunnels and weapons under and in some of its
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Speaker 2: buildings in Gaza. And all this matters because the Avedazing
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Speaker 2: government was warned that UMRA was hiring Hamas members many
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Speaker 2: more than these nine. But last year Foreign Minisipenny Wong
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Speaker 2: decided to double Australia's funding to UNWA to twenty million dollars.
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Speaker 2: She paused it in March Whena's first accused of hiring
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Speaker 2: Hamas members, but then resumed it saying no worries. UNRA
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Speaker 2: is now going to investigate and now yes, indeed some
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Speaker 2: bay of money was going to hire terrorists. Is the
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Speaker 2: opposit's leader today.
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Speaker 5: And we've called for them before not to provide this
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Speaker 5: funding through this organization, but they've chosen to go with
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Speaker 5: their own bad judgment.
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Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister today acted like everything was going
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Speaker 2: to plan.
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Speaker 6: It is a good thing that the United Nations have
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Speaker 6: taken this action.
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Speaker 2: But Ewbany is actually ignoring there's another way that some
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Speaker 2: of our taxpayer money to UNWA seems to have been
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Speaker 2: directly siphoned off to Hamas to kill Jews. There's a
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Speaker 2: new law case in the United States says that UNWA
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Speaker 2: pays his staff in Gaza in US dollars, which is true.
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Speaker 2: But to spend it, those staff have to change those
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Speaker 2: dollars into shekels. That money changes most run by Hamas
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Speaker 2: or otherwise tax by them, taking allegedly between ten to
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Speaker 2: twenty five I've percent Hamas terrorists taking a percentage of
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Speaker 2: wages paid in part by our donations. By this evidence. Now,
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Speaker 2: to make it worse, you know this, Albanes governs meanwhile
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Speaker 2: thinking new ways, perhaps permanently settled Palestinians. It took in
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Speaker 2: supposedly temporarily as refugees, even though these are Palestinians brought
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Speaker 2: in without being able the government being able to do
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Speaker 2: sufficient background checks. We don't have officials on the ground
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Speaker 2: in Gaza to check for any links to Hermas, even
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Speaker 2: if Hamas would confess as if. Now to the second
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Speaker 2: sign of the shameful shambles. Now we've covered before Israel's
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Speaker 2: accidental killing in Gaza of aid workers, including Australian zombie Frankum.
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Speaker 2: Now we said at the time this seemed a tragic
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Speaker 2: mistake in the fog of war, but Penny Wong treated
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Speaker 2: as suspicious. She sent former Defense Force chief Mark Binskin
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Speaker 2: to go grill israelis And this is how Wang on
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Speaker 2: Friday summed up Binskin's findings.
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Speaker 7: Zommy frank Holm and her colleagues from Dublin World Central
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Speaker 7: Kitchen were killed in an intentional strike by the IDF.
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Speaker 7: It is clear that these deaths were a consequence of
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Speaker 7: a failure of IDF controls, errors in decision making and misidentification,
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Speaker 7: a failure to comply with senior command direction, and a
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Speaker 7: violation of IDF procedures and rules of engagement.
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Speaker 2: Sounds terrible, and Wong wanted more investigations, maybe criminal charges.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't satisfied. It's like as Israel had no excuse. Except
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Speaker 2: what Wong didn't say was that Binskin's report actually did
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Speaker 2: say it had some excuses. Yes, true, terrible mistakes were made,
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Speaker 2: similar to one's Binskins said other Western militaries had made
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Speaker 2: in the fog of war, but in their defense. Israel
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Speaker 2: had seen gunmen in Franklin's AID convoy and thought they
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Speaker 2: were Hamas or linked to Hamas, hijacking the AID. And
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Speaker 2: what's more, Binskom said the charity has also made mistakes.
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Speaker 2: Wane didn't mention that either. For instance, it didn't follow
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Speaker 2: its own communications protocols. One didn't mention any of that.
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Speaker 2: It's like she really wanted Israel to seem as guilty
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Speaker 2: as she could paint it. No wonder, the Israeli ambassador
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Speaker 2: has complained. But this goverment is not just unusually hard
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Speaker 2: on Israel, it's soft in Iran. Iran is the Isthmus
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Speaker 2: regime which is actually funding all these terrorist groups attacking Israel,
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Speaker 2: funding Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Huti rebels. So that's the
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Speaker 2: third example. I now have Iran's ambassador posted on the
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Speaker 2: weekend that a former leader of Hamas had wanted Israel destroyed,
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Speaker 2: as he put it, wanted the Zionist plague wiped out
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Speaker 2: of the Holy lands of Parassan by twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: This is genocidal talk. And the ambassador looked forward, he said,
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Speaker 2: to such a heavenly promise, and this from a murderous
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Speaker 2: terrorist group that's actually banned in Australia. And only today
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Speaker 2: did the Prime Minister publicly call out the ambassador, but
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Speaker 2: he didn't throw him out.
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Speaker 6: We have called in the Iranian ambassador to the Department
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Speaker 6: of Foreign Affairs and Trade. Is the protocol when something
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Speaker 6: like this happens. I'll make it clear there's no place
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Speaker 6: for the sword of comments that were made online in
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Speaker 6: social media by the Iranian ambassador. They're a born and
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Speaker 6: they are hateful. They are any Semitic.
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Speaker 2: Tough words, weak actions. So that's three examples in just
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Speaker 2: the past week of a government that seems driven by
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Speaker 2: contempt for Israel and a fear of offending Muslim voters,
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Speaker 2: particularly in Sydney. Terrorists will cheer, Jews will fear, and
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Speaker 2: the rest of us must wonder if this is a
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Speaker 2: government that can be trusted with our security. Joining me
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Speaker 2: is Michael Schubridge, a former senior defense official and founder
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Speaker 2: and director of Strategic Analysis Australia. Michael, good to see
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Speaker 2: you again. Listen comparing what the Binskin report found and
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Speaker 2: what foreigm mister Pennywong said about it. What does that
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Speaker 2: tell you about her attitude to Israel.
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Speaker 8: Well, Andrew, they're like two different reports. It's a bit
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Speaker 8: unfortunate that Penny Wong doesn't seem.
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Speaker 2: To have read the report.
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Speaker 8: She's stuck with the prejudices she had when she commissioned
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Speaker 8: Mark Binskin to do the report. One of the most
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Speaker 8: striking things in Binskin's report based on full access to
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Speaker 8: every piece of Israeli information about it, including drone footage
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Speaker 8: of the strikes. It isn't that the Israelis admitted they
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Speaker 8: made a tragic mistake.
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Speaker 2: They did do that. It's that so rapidly.
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Speaker 8: Held commanders to account. And so we had Mark Binskin,
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Speaker 8: a former Chief of Defense here telling us the Israelis
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Speaker 8: acted to hold leaders to account in seventy two hours
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Speaker 8: of the strike, when in the case of our personnel
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Speaker 8: in Afghanistan, no senior commander has been held to any
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Speaker 8: kind of account twelve years on.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's just extraordinary, isn't it, you know? And then
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Speaker 2: on the other hand, you wonder whether Penny Wong is
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Speaker 2: tough enough on Iran, very tough on Israel, you know,
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Speaker 2: not disclosing key fact's giving it some sort of excuse.
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Speaker 2: But on Iran that's actually funding the terrorist scruts which
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Speaker 2: started this war by attacking Israel. Here's a foreignuster today
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Speaker 2: reacting under questioning to that tweet I mentioned from Iran's
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Speaker 2: ambassaity here calling for Israel to be wiped out by
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 1: Those comments are inflammatory and they are repugnant and they
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Speaker 1: do not represent Australia. They're inconsistent with Australia's values and
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Speaker 1: our views. Yes we have. My department has spoken with
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Speaker 1: the ambassador about these issues and other issues.
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Speaker 2: And Michael Schubridge, is that adequate? Some tough words there,
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Speaker 2: but just sending some unknown official to talk to the
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Speaker 2: Iranian ambassador instead of dragging him in to face it
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Speaker 2: him personally and not throwing him out. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is a guy effectively supporting a terrorist outfit banned here
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Speaker 2: and we're supposed to deal with him as an ambassador.
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Speaker 8: Well, let's remember the Iranian ambassador called israelis a Zionist plague,
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Speaker 8: so not even acknowledging that they're humans doesn't get much
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Speaker 8: worse than that. This attitude from the Albanesi government of well,
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Speaker 8: when there's a problem we don't want to face, we
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Speaker 8: send officials to do our dirty work. That's exactly the
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Speaker 8: same playbook we see with the Albanesi government engaging with
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Speaker 8: the Chinese Communist Party. They don't call the ambassador in,
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Speaker 8: they send an underling, or they make a phone call.
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Speaker 8: And it really is a shameful way for our ministers
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Speaker 8: to behave. Why doesn't Penny Wong have the authority to
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Speaker 8: call the Iranian ambassador directly?
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Speaker 2: It's mystifying, Well, why doesn't she make him walk the
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Speaker 2: walk of shame to her office or even to if
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Speaker 2: she's overseas, to an assistant minister's office, so everyone and
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Speaker 2: then alert the photographers so they can shame this racist. Meanwhile, UNWA,
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Speaker 2: this United Nations organization looking after so called Palestini refugees
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Speaker 2: like it has for more than seventy five years, has
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Speaker 2: now admitted that nine of its thirty thousand employees in guards,
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Speaker 2: which doesn't sound a lot, may have taken part in
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Speaker 2: the October seven MESCA, the twelve hundred Israelis, the rapes,
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Speaker 2: the kidnap you said for them, we fired. Should the
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Speaker 2: Albanezi government be funding this massive bureaucracy which is likely
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Speaker 2: employed terrorists and terror sympathizers way beyond these nine that
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Speaker 2: we've been talking about.
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Speaker 9: No.
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Speaker 8: Look, maybe other people have forgotten, but I remember when
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Speaker 8: these allegations were made about ANRA having Hamas attackers in
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Speaker 8: its organization. The government said that this was a serious problem,
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Speaker 8: but then they rapidly accepted an initial report that said
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Speaker 8: everything was fine and restored funding. So it seems to
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Speaker 8: me that the current government is very quick to move
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Speaker 8: away from criticism of even the most repugnant terrorist organizations,
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Speaker 8: but is equally quick to condemn our partners and friends
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Speaker 8: like the Israelis, and that to me is the opposite
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Speaker 8: of the right policy instinct, and we should expect better
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Speaker 8: things from the government that we have.
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Speaker 2: No kidding, Sherlock. Michael Schuber is always great to talk
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Speaker 2: to you. Thank you so much. Unbelievable stuff. Really well,
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Speaker 2: some good bad news today The Reserve Bank decided not
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Speaker 2: to increase interest rates. But it wasn't because inflation is
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Speaker 2: not a problem. It's because the economy is so weak,
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Speaker 2: as you may well know. But Treasure Jim Chalmers was
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Speaker 2: taking all this as a win.
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Speaker 10: This is a welcome decision from the Reserve Bank because
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Speaker 10: it recognizes the pressures that people are under, the progress
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Speaker 10: we've made on underlying inflation, but also the severe market
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Speaker 10: volatility we've seen and global economic uncertainty more broadly.
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Speaker 2: Now, the treasure it's taking in is a win because
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Speaker 2: there's always a weak economy. That's something essentially blames on
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Speaker 2: the rest of the world, as if the rest of
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Speaker 2: the world only became a factor and a bad one
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Speaker 2: when the Albanies the government got elected, as if the
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Speaker 2: previous Morrison government didn't have, say, the COVID pandemic, the
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Speaker 2: chain of rus to deal with.
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Speaker 10: The market volatility that we've seen has been driven by
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Speaker 10: a weaker than expected jobs growth and tech earnings in
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Speaker 10: the US, as well as rising Japanese interest rates impacting
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Speaker 10: Asian markets as well. That the Chinese economy has been
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Speaker 10: a bit weaker of late, and that has consequences for
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Speaker 10: US as well.
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Speaker 2: And he went on to blame Ukraine or Russia, et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, as well our worlds against them. But the
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor said higher inflation is going to be
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Speaker 2: around for longer than predicted, eating at your savings, eating
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Speaker 2: at your take home income. Interest rates are not coming down,
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Speaker 2: she said before Christmas. At least.
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Speaker 11: The fact is that the progress on bringing inflation down
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Speaker 11: has been very slow for a year now. What we
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Speaker 11: can say is that a near term reduction in the
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Speaker 11: cash rate doesn't align with the Board's current thanking.
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Speaker 2: Joining me is Leith vanonsenan co founder of Macro Business
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Speaker 2: and a former Federal Treasury official. I recommend there's Macro
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Speaker 2: Business site. Great articles there at Leith. Great to see
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Speaker 2: you again. Look, inflation is still far too high. Why
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Speaker 2: didn't the Reserve Bank hike interest rates? It said that
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Speaker 2: was the other option. It had either freeze them where
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Speaker 2: they are now, which it did, or hike them, not
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Speaker 2: cut them.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Andrew, the RBA is trying to balance basically two
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Speaker 12: competing priorities. So one of them is obviously to try
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Speaker 12: and keep inflation within its targeted two to two to
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Speaker 12: three percent. We're above that obviously. But the other one
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Speaker 12: is that's the Reserve Bank's trying to maintain full employment.
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Speaker 12: And the economies, as you said, is incredibly weak. We've
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Speaker 12: heard five consecutive quarters of negative per capital GDP growth.
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Speaker 12: We're about to record a sixth that will end up
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Speaker 12: being the longest per capita decline basically in records going
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Speaker 12: back to nineteen seventies.
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Speaker 2: Not the deepest, but the longest.
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Speaker 12: And because of that, obviously got a rise in unemployment
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Speaker 12: and the consumer economy is deep in recession, and because
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Speaker 12: of that the RBA is held.
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Speaker 2: Well. It's interesting we see the opposition today blaming government spending,
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Speaker 2: which has gone up sixteen percent. Federal government spent six
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Speaker 2: percent two years incredible. State government's also spending like drunken sailors,
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Speaker 2: a massive, massive amount. The Reserve Bank governments today said, oh, look,
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Speaker 2: you know, sure that goes up, but other things go down.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, trying to be really diplomatic, but what
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Speaker 2: do you think is the problem is that that is
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Speaker 2: a too little productivity, is a too much immigration? What
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Speaker 2: is weakening the economy and making interest rates so high
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Speaker 2: and not falling?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, a lot of it does get down to
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Speaker 12: policy failure. So obviously we've got the federal government pump
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Speaker 12: in demand through its extreme levels of immigration. That's pushing
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Speaker 12: up inflation across the economy, especially in areas like rents.
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Speaker 12: We have the energy policy failures, which has Australia paying
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Speaker 12: some of the highest energy prices in the world. That
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Speaker 12: obviously feeds into cost living, inflation, sen manufacturers broke, et cetera.
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Speaker 12: And then at the same time we have the state
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Speaker 12: government spending record amounts on infrastructure. So we have what
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Speaker 12: a fellow economist Taric Brooker describes as a burnout economy
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Speaker 12: whereby the federal government has a foot planted on the
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Speaker 12: accelerator while the Reserve Bank's got the foot plant and
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Speaker 12: a break trying to slow the economy. So the federal
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Speaker 12: and state governments are working at cross purposes.
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Speaker 2: Now you've in fact warned and you mentioned it just earlier,
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Speaker 2: referred to it in passing. You did a great article
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Speaker 2: on this that Australia is in its worst recession in
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Speaker 2: modern times, with our house average household disposable income falling
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Speaker 2: like a stone. That's the bottom line there in blue. Now,
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Speaker 2: we actually did another voxpop here at Sky News today
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Speaker 2: that showed what that looks like to many Australians have listened.
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Speaker 2: How's it affecting you at the moment?
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Speaker 4: This on the interest rate, the rents that's going up
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Speaker 4: all the time.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to listen to the people that are
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Speaker 2: doing a tough Well.
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Speaker 9: We decided to move back to my parents a couple
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Speaker 9: of months ago after my two year mortgages up the
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Speaker 9: fixed rate. We couldn't afford the new interest rates. So
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Speaker 9: yeah we're back home now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah I feel for them, I really do.
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Speaker 13: But as long as that interest rate is up high,
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Speaker 13: I get more money and I can survive Leith.
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Speaker 2: It draves me nuts that the government carries on, like
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Speaker 2: I know, it's all going to tickni boo because you know, overall,
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Speaker 2: you know we're growing because of the huge immigration. People
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Speaker 2: are really hurting. There's no sense of crisis that this is,
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Speaker 2: as you say, per capita, a terrible recession. Why is that?
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Speaker 12: Yeah, mate, well it's an absolute shocker for basically two
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Speaker 12: thirds of Australian so roughly one third of Australian's rent
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Speaker 12: they're obviously getting smashed by this extreme rental inflation that
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Speaker 12: we're getting, primarily caused by the surgeon in creation. And
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Speaker 12: then another one third of Australians roughly have ownoccupied mortgages
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Speaker 12: and they're getting smashed obviously by these a fifty percent
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Speaker 12: increase in their mortgage rey payments. So you know, two
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Speaker 12: thirds of this Australians get smashed. The only one third
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Speaker 12: of Australia that's doing okay of those who own the
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Speaker 12: homes outright, because they are basically insulated from these rental
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Speaker 12: pressures and mortgage interest rates. So that's essentially why Australians
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Speaker 12: are doing it so tough. And then you add other
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Speaker 12: things like the energy policy failure, which is ramped up
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Speaker 12: gas electricity prices, insurance price shocks, all those sorts of
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Speaker 12: things it's a recipe for disaster.
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Speaker 2: Andrew, It's interesting that what you mentioned is basically government failure.
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Speaker 2: You're not saying Ukraine, you're not saying Russia, you're not
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Speaker 2: saying America, you're not saying Japan, you're not saying China,
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Speaker 2: like the Treasurer was busy doing today. Leith and Nonsolin,
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Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time and like I say,
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Speaker 2: some great great pieces on the live sites, I recommend
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Speaker 2: you go macro business after the break. Yet another Britney
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Speaker 2: Hiddens court case. This one could really embarrass the Albenizi government.
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Speaker 2: It's all going a bit wrong. The ABC is now
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Speaker 2: reporting that five boats have been intercepted by Australian Maritime
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Speaker 2: Border Protection authorities off Western Australia's Far North. They're all
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Speaker 2: apparently intercepted within the past twenty four hours, with the
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Speaker 2: wooden boats in the mangroves around Coouri Bay, about three
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy kilometers northeast of Broome. From the look
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Speaker 2: of it, that could just be illegal fishing boats. I
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Speaker 2: don't know. There's no talk about we don't know if
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Speaker 2: there were actually carrying people. Back in May, we did
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Speaker 2: report at least six illegal boats that actually reached Australian
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Speaker 2: territory since December and that was then the seventeen attempted
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Speaker 2: people spuggling venture to make the journey here under this government.
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Speaker 2: So again we don't know what these boats are. Five
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Speaker 2: look suspicious. It might be that the Albenizi government's been
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Speaker 2: seen as a soft touch and wouldn't people wouldn't be wrong?
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Speaker 2: Would they now case in Perth? That sorry, it seems
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Speaker 2: a bit of a bash, but like I say, things
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Speaker 2: are really going pair shape for this government. A court
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Speaker 2: case in Perth could really embarrass the government. You remember
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Speaker 2: how the Britney Higgins case exploded first in the media.
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Speaker 2: You know, a story of how a rotten Morrison government
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Speaker 2: covered up the rape of Britney Higgins in the parliament
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Speaker 2: House office of their boss, the Fencemanster Linda Reynolds, even
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Speaker 2: trying to stop Higgins from going to the police.
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Speaker 14: Tonight, claims of rape roadblocks to a police investigation, and
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Speaker 14: a young woman forced to choose between her career and
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Speaker 14: the pursuit of justice.
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Speaker 15: Tonight, on four Corners, we investigate how her story was
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Speaker 15: kept secret for almost two years and why she feels
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Speaker 15: her cries for help was stifled by the Canberra machine
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Speaker 15: and expectations of party loyalty.
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Speaker 2: Except the bulldosh detector went right off there. And indeed
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Speaker 2: these cover up claims were called false by Justice mikeel
21:59
Speaker 2: Lee and separate case this year. But the Albani's he
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Speaker 2: governed had really given Higgins two point four million dollars
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Speaker 2: of your money after just one day of mediation, in
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Speaker 2: part for the terrible way allegedly the Liberals had treated her.
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Speaker 2: And why well That question is particularly pointed now because
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Speaker 2: of this new court case. Linda Reynolds is suing Higgins
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Speaker 2: and her husband for defamation, claiming they ruined a reputation
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Speaker 2: and health by making a scene a villain unsympathetic. I
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Speaker 2: won't go through the ins and out so far, but
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Speaker 2: just one thing from higgins barrison in court in response
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Speaker 2: that I thought was very interesting. Higgins's own barrister said
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Speaker 2: Reynolds actually insisted Higgins go to the police about the rape.
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Speaker 2: She claimed Reynolds then he came to blows with her
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Speaker 2: own chief of staff, who thought it was actually for
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Speaker 2: Higgins to decide they'd be Quote from a court report
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Speaker 2: from The Australian, Rachel Young sc Higgins barrister said Reynolds
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Speaker 2: strong pushed to report the matter to a federal police
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Speaker 2: showed that she must have known, really suspected Higgins had
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Speaker 2: been raped before she met the stuff and to discuss
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Speaker 2: the incident. Renolds claims she didn't. But does that sound
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Speaker 2: like a cover up to you? Really? Of course it's
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Speaker 2: an't mean Reynolds the sympathetic to Higgins, et cetera. That's
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Speaker 2: for the court to decide. Join Miss Chris Merritt, Vice
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Speaker 2: President of the Rule of Law in Stude of Australia. Chris,
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Speaker 2: thanks for your time, but what did you make of
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Speaker 2: what Higgins Barris has said? I agree with you.
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Speaker 5: I can't see how this is anything but a strategic
23:33
Speaker 5: advantage for Miss Reynolds. The core of the argument for
23:39
Speaker 5: the defense argument is that miss miss Reynolds failed to
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Speaker 5: support Miss Higgins and engaged in conduct that looked a
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Speaker 5: lot like a cover up. This seems to put that
23:53
Speaker 5: conclusively to bed. Now we're only three days into a
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Speaker 5: five week trial, but we do have a long way
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Speaker 5: to go on this. But I think it'll be very
24:03
Speaker 5: difficult to overcome the clear message that Linda Reynolds, one
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Speaker 5: of this complaint dealt with quickly by the police. I
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Speaker 5: can't see how they can backtrack from that.
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Speaker 2: Now. Of course, you know, the defamation claim is a
24:24
Speaker 2: bit wider. You know that, Oh you told you said
24:26
Speaker 2: it was unsympathetic. They might say, well, in other ways
24:29
Speaker 2: you're unsympathetic whatever. I don't know, but it's a very
24:32
Speaker 2: interesting concession and it goes to the heart of the
24:35
Speaker 2: political dimension here. And I know you've talked about it,
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Speaker 2: you've written about it. What of the Albanezi government giving
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Speaker 2: Britney Higgins that two point four actually two point two million,
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Speaker 2: four hundred and forty five thousand dollars in compensation in
24:53
Speaker 2: part for how Cruelly Reynolds and the rest of the
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Speaker 2: Morrison governor legedly gave her. How's that payment looking now?
24:59
Speaker 2: When for the idea of a cover up seems ludicrous?
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Speaker 5: It does regardless of the outcome of this case, I
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Speaker 5: think the message should now be loud and clear that
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Speaker 5: the rules governing governing payouts are less than rigorous the
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Speaker 5: way they work. The government has asserted that they've complied
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Speaker 5: with the letter of the law, and they have the
25:24
Speaker 5: problem is that there is an enormous loophole in the
25:28
Speaker 5: rules governing these payouts. The way it works is there.
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Speaker 2: Must be.
25:35
Speaker 5: A payout must be governed by legal practice and principle.
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Speaker 2: If it's over.
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Speaker 5: One hundred thousand dollars, a lawyer must assert must certify
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Speaker 5: that there's a reasonable prospect of liability being found against
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Speaker 5: the Commonwealth. Now, if both those things can't happen, there's.
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Speaker 2: A huge out for the government.
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Speaker 5: All that needs to happen is that the Attorney General
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Speaker 5: needs to assert that special circumstances apply and a payout
26:04
Speaker 5: should be made regardless of the fact that there might
26:07
Speaker 5: be no statement from a lawyer saying liability would be
26:12
Speaker 5: was likely to be found against the Commonwealth. Now I
26:15
Speaker 5: don't think that's good enough, and I think this case,
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Speaker 5: regardless of the outcome, shows that that needs to be
26:21
Speaker 5: firmed up. If there was a legitimate basis for the payout,
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Speaker 5: the rules should be so rigorous that there will be
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Speaker 5: no doubt. But keep in mind that Miss Higgins MS Reynolds,
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Speaker 5: who was Miss higgins employer, was excluded from the one
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Speaker 5: day mediation that led to this payout, and I can't
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Speaker 5: see how that would comply with the requirement for legal
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Speaker 5: practice and principle.
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Speaker 2: So it looks like special circumstances. A day in court.
26:54
Speaker 2: Now she's getting a day in court, Chris, and I
26:57
Speaker 2: think we're seeing a different story completely coming out, which
27:00
Speaker 2: might have been a benefit when the well, I must
27:03
Speaker 2: say too, maybe they acted completely above board, but you
27:07
Speaker 2: can't help being suspicious of the fact or acknowledging a fact.
27:10
Speaker 2: There's a vested interest here. It was in Labour's interest
27:13
Speaker 2: to say that Brittney Higgins was treated poorly because they
27:17
Speaker 2: used as a stick to beat the Liberals. They couldn't say,
27:19
Speaker 2: oh no, actually that didn't happen. Chris Merritt, thank you
27:22
Speaker 2: so much, indeed for your insight there. Thank you so much.
27:26
Speaker 2: After the break, Donald Trump in deep trouble as Kamala
27:30
Speaker 2: Harris decides to shut up, but I'm plague it one
27:34
Speaker 2: bit of tape that shows why she's actually wise through
27:37
Speaker 2: woke and weird silence. Sure is golden for Kamala Harris. Now,
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Speaker 2: the US Democrats last minute decision to dump President Joe
27:49
Speaker 2: Barden and replace him with Harris in November's presidentcyr election
27:53
Speaker 2: against Donald Trump is so far paying off big time.
27:56
Speaker 2: Pole shows she's surged ahead of Trump, at least in
27:59
Speaker 2: the popular vote. And that's in part because in the
28:02
Speaker 2: nearly three weeks that Harris has been the candidate, she
28:05
Speaker 2: still has not given a single interview to a journals
28:09
Speaker 2: or a single press conference, which is extraordinary, except when
28:13
Speaker 2: you remember that Harris is still a hopelessly woke lightweight.
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Speaker 13: You know, we have to stay woke, like everybody needs
28:22
Speaker 13: to be woke, and you can talk about it if
28:26
Speaker 13: you're the wokest or woker, but just a more woke
28:30
Speaker 13: than less woke.
28:32
Speaker 2: Now, to avoid embarrassments like that, she's only given tightly
28:35
Speaker 2: scripted speeches, really sticking to the text, except for one
28:40
Speaker 2: tiny slip. Very interesting when she was with Biden last
28:44
Speaker 2: week welcoming home prisoners free by Russia and tried to
28:48
Speaker 2: give Biden credit. She spoke only very briefly, but straightaway
28:52
Speaker 2: didn't take long for her to slip into one of
28:54
Speaker 2: her daffy word salads.
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Speaker 4: Again, this is just extraordinary.
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Speaker 16: Men to the importance of having a president who understands
29:05
Speaker 16: the power of diplomacy and understands the strength that rests
29:11
Speaker 16: in understanding the significance of diplomacy.
29:16
Speaker 2: What did that last beef of me and joining me?
29:18
Speaker 2: Sewan Spicer, the first white House spokesman of President Donald Trump,
29:23
Speaker 2: Sean Spicicer, Great to see you again. Look the polls
29:25
Speaker 2: in our showing Kamala Harris actually leading Donald Trump's incredible.
29:29
Speaker 2: How much trouble is he in?
29:32
Speaker 17: Look, the biggest obstacle that the Democrats faced was their
29:37
Speaker 17: candidate had an issue with fitness for office. The second
29:41
Speaker 17: that you removed Joe Biden with the equation, Frankly Andrew,
29:45
Speaker 17: anybody would have done better. I mean, that's the reality.
29:48
Speaker 17: They removed the biggest obstacle from so many independents in
29:53
Speaker 17: right leaning Democrats wanting to support the Democratic nominee.
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Speaker 4: We knew that would happen.
29:58
Speaker 17: You go back the last several elections, it's been clite,
30:01
Speaker 17: it's been tight. The only reason, I mean, I hate
30:03
Speaker 17: to be blunt, that Donald Trump was leading by the
30:07
Speaker 17: amount that he was, was that that debate really showcased
30:11
Speaker 17: for the country and frankly, the entire world how concerning
30:16
Speaker 17: Joe Biden's situation was, so they removed it. I don't
30:20
Speaker 17: think that this is a huge endorsement of Kamala Harris.
30:23
Speaker 4: I think it's anybody but Biden.
30:25
Speaker 17: That being said, if I were Trump's campaign, the game
30:29
Speaker 17: has changed.
30:30
Speaker 4: And they need to adjust accordingly.
30:32
Speaker 17: They need to understand that the strategy, the tactics, the
30:35
Speaker 17: messaging is very different. But it's the Biden Harris agenda.
30:43
Speaker 17: She owns the chaos that came out of our financial
30:46
Speaker 17: markets today, she owns the chaos that is happening in
30:50
Speaker 17: the Middle East today.
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Speaker 4: All of these.
30:53
Speaker 17: Things are a reminder of the policies of the Biden
30:55
Speaker 17: Harris And if Donald Trump can focus his message on
30:59
Speaker 17: his record and her record as vice president, he will win.
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Speaker 4: He will pull this out.
31:05
Speaker 17: He's got to avoid the name calling and the nastiness
31:08
Speaker 17: because that's not what the s the voters in these
31:12
Speaker 17: key states are looking for, right they want a reason
31:16
Speaker 17: to vote for him, and he's got to give it
31:18
Speaker 17: to him.
31:19
Speaker 2: Sure, that's exactly correct, That's exactly correct. I mean, you know,
31:23
Speaker 2: his team must be pulling their hair out because you've
31:27
Speaker 2: got the chaos in the Middle East, potentially war with Iran.
31:30
Speaker 2: Biden was softening around, Trump was tough. You've got the
31:34
Speaker 2: big slump in Wall Street as well. Now, I know
31:37
Speaker 2: that's more a market correction than you know, maybe signifying
31:40
Speaker 2: something terrible, but it's highlighted terrible economic policies, high inflation,
31:45
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. This is her part of
31:48
Speaker 2: her legacy too, and it's the personal. Now I noticed
31:52
Speaker 2: that she's Kamala Harris is running away from real scrutiny.
31:57
Speaker 2: As far as I can tell, not a single interview
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Speaker 2: real journalist since she took over the nomination. There's not
32:04
Speaker 2: yet a debate. There's an argument about the debate and
32:07
Speaker 2: what terms it be with Donald Trump. What's helped with that?
32:10
Speaker 2: She is she doing the Joe Biden strategy essentially of
32:15
Speaker 2: hiding in the cellar? Is the Is this their idea
32:20
Speaker 2: that the person who will beat Donald Trump is Donald Trump,
32:24
Speaker 2: so don't don't expose yourself too much?
32:29
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, I think there's two parts to the strategy
32:31
Speaker 17: what you just said, which is, hey, let him go
32:34
Speaker 17: out there and say stuff, right, because they're excited that
32:37
Speaker 17: I'm just I'm not Joe Biden. I mean, it's not
32:41
Speaker 17: that people are fired up about her. They're just like, hey, good,
32:44
Speaker 17: Biden's gone. And secondly, and we saw this the other
32:47
Speaker 17: night on the tarmac with the return of those Americans
32:50
Speaker 17: that were kept in Russian captivity, she had any opportunity
32:55
Speaker 17: says just weird stuff, word salads, and that was a
33:01
Speaker 17: moment in which she starts going off unscripted, and so
33:05
Speaker 17: her campaign knows that, whether it's interview or just an
33:08
Speaker 17: unscripted moment in front of supporters, that she'll say things
33:13
Speaker 17: that can be used against her. So I think that
33:16
Speaker 17: they have decided to take a strategy that says, for
33:20
Speaker 17: as long as we can get away with it, and
33:21
Speaker 17: I frankly would bet you that she goes all the
33:24
Speaker 17: way to her convention on August nineteenth without.
33:28
Speaker 4: Doing a single interview.
33:31
Speaker 17: This goes back to why just because I mean, number one,
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Speaker 17: our press is giving her a pass, and number two
33:37
Speaker 17: is what do you gain out of it?
33:39
Speaker 4: Right?
33:40
Speaker 17: You and I and others look at this and say
33:42
Speaker 17: this is ridiculous. But if you're her team and the
33:45
Speaker 17: strategy's working, why would you expose yourself to that?
33:50
Speaker 4: And I think that considering.
33:51
Speaker 17: The fact that the media here in the United States
33:54
Speaker 17: will give her a pass, why not take it?
33:58
Speaker 4: Is I think the strategy that they're point.
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Speaker 2: But absolutely, if you can plain all you like, but
34:05
Speaker 2: she's winning with it, keep going, I should imagine, although
34:07
Speaker 2: America will be the loser. Now all this said, Sean,
34:11
Speaker 2: I just want to go back one, to go back
34:13
Speaker 2: to the personal because we've talked about Kamala Harris shape shifting, right,
34:19
Speaker 2: you know, like she was raised essentially by her Indian mother,
34:24
Speaker 2: went to high school in California. But if she put
34:26
Speaker 2: her in front of it, if you put her in
34:27
Speaker 2: front of her black audience, she talks like she's from
34:30
Speaker 2: the deep black South, you know, with a broad accent.
34:34
Speaker 2: It's really weird. I see that her husband, Doug m
34:38
Speaker 2: Hoff can do the same sort of thing. Now he's
34:41
Speaker 2: admitted to see an end now just last week that
34:45
Speaker 2: his first marriage broke up after he made their housekeeper pregnant.
34:49
Speaker 2: Can you believe this is the same man who gave
34:53
Speaker 2: lectures on the media on toxic masculinity?
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Speaker 18: Here is this is something I've thought about a lot.
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Speaker 18: Something I've spoken about a lot. There's too much of toxicity.
35:05
Speaker 18: It's masculine toxicity out there, and we've kind of confused
35:09
Speaker 18: what it means to be a man Sean.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?
35:13
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's stuff like that.
35:16
Speaker 17: Plus him inserting himself in the debate on Roe versus Way,
35:20
Speaker 17: He's got a lot to say. And as they say,
35:22
Speaker 17: don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house.
35:25
Speaker 17: I think he's got to be very careful. But what
35:28
Speaker 17: we've also learned about this instance, and look.
35:30
Speaker 4: I just want to be clear with your audience. I
35:33
Speaker 4: think that.
35:33
Speaker 17: Personal matters family matters are generally out of bounds. That
35:38
Speaker 17: being said, when he wants to insert himself, as you
35:41
Speaker 17: played in that clip in issues that talk about masculinity
35:45
Speaker 17: and women's rights and all this stuff, when he's got
35:48
Speaker 17: a history, that may be a problem.
35:52
Speaker 2: Now.
35:52
Speaker 17: The big story that I also didn't think get a
35:54
Speaker 17: lot of attention is apparently, while Kamala knew about his past,
36:00
Speaker 17: this was never part of the vetting that came out
36:03
Speaker 17: that they disclosed to Team Biden. So it's really interesting
36:07
Speaker 17: how and when this came out. But you can see
36:10
Speaker 17: I mentioned a moment ago how the media covers for her, well,
36:13
Speaker 17: apparently the cover for him as well. It sort of
36:16
Speaker 17: came up, he made his comment to CNN, and then
36:18
Speaker 17: it was almost like they all agreed, Okay, we will
36:20
Speaker 17: never speak of this again.
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Speaker 2: I tell you what it really is. The whole media establishment,
36:29
Speaker 2: bar a few exceptions like Fox News really pushing for
36:34
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris to be president, not subjecting it to the scrutiny,
36:38
Speaker 2: and she's getting away with it. It's like it'll be
36:41
Speaker 2: a mystery box that you open on election night and
36:44
Speaker 2: then you'll see what you really get. Sean Spiced, thank
36:47
Speaker 2: you so much for your time.
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Speaker 4: As always, Andrew, thank you.
36:52
Speaker 2: After the break, Mega Michael complains again, plus more ethnic
36:56
Speaker 2: rights in Britain, and this time involving Muslim and Pakistani
37:00
Speaker 2: crowds attacking journalists and white motorists. These terrible communal riots
37:09
Speaker 2: in Britain haven't stopped. But it's not just supposedly far
37:12
Speaker 2: right hand immigration protesters now most white. In reaction to
37:17
Speaker 2: their reaction, people of Muslim appearance and carrying Palestinian flags
37:21
Speaker 2: look over traffic points in Birmingham, for instance, to keep
37:24
Speaker 2: out suspected and immigration protesters and warning some footage on
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Speaker 2: their show is distressing. That's the warning. They also bashed
37:32
Speaker 2: whites they thought were protests, as some carried weapons and
37:37
Speaker 2: menaced television crews reporting the scene.
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Speaker 19: Community leaders have been speaking to the police as well,
37:44
Speaker 19: because three Pilotime, I think, apologies for the language you're hearing.
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Speaker 15: But I think, yeah, Katie, I think Becky, apologize.
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Speaker 14: We need to leave you.
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Speaker 2: That one of those thugs even try to stab the
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Speaker 2: tires of that Sky UK film crew. An ITV reporter
38:07
Speaker 2: said he also had to run to escape another mob there.
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Speaker 2: Join me to the Tuesday panel. Will Kingston, hosts of
38:13
Speaker 2: Australia Fire at Will It's now called Fire at Will,
38:17
Speaker 2: a weekly podcaster and spectator and Politics and Culture. And
38:20
Speaker 2: Danika to Georgio, co hosts of Denika and James on
38:24
Speaker 2: Sky News every Sunday at eight pm. Will you are
38:27
Speaker 2: in London? Are these riots? And have been seeing scenes
38:30
Speaker 2: of armored cars being attacked with Molotov cocktails in Belfast
38:35
Speaker 2: as well as far off as that? Are they as
38:37
Speaker 2: bad as they seem just watching out of context clips?
38:40
Speaker 2: And how would you describe them?
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Speaker 20: I would describe them as entirely predictable, Andrew. What we
38:52
Speaker 20: are witnessing is an elite consensus that has been ruled
38:57
Speaker 20: over by the left and the right, breaking down for
39:00
Speaker 20: our very eyes that elite expect when they have preached
39:06
Speaker 20: the politics of identity for decades now and now racial
39:10
Speaker 20: sectarian violence erupts on British streets, when they have said
39:15
Speaker 20: to the masses that we are pursuing a policy of
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Speaker 20: mass migration without any thought given to social cohesion or
39:22
Speaker 20: cultural integration. When they have ignored that there are elements
39:25
Speaker 20: of Islamic culture which are incompatible with a Western liberal democracy,
39:30
Speaker 20: and when they have told you that you are a
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Speaker 20: racist if you dare to bring up any of these points.
39:38
Speaker 20: This was always going to happen, and I fear it
39:41
Speaker 20: will continue happening, Andrew, because the wrong lessons are being learned. Unfortunately,
39:46
Speaker 20: we're hearing about social media disinformation, We're hearing about the
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Speaker 20: far right, whatever that means. We're not having the one
39:53
Speaker 20: conversation that we really do need to have, which is
39:56
Speaker 20: around mass migration and cultural integration and the acknowledgment that
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Speaker 20: multiculturalism has utterly failed in the United Kingdom.
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Speaker 2: Now, I want to stress that, and I'm sure, absolutely
40:10
Speaker 2: sure you agree. The way their dissatisfaction is being manifested
40:16
Speaker 2: violence rights, et cetera, et cetera is totally out of order.
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Speaker 2: It's disgusting. Are condemned in whichever community did it. But
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Speaker 2: the thing is, this is a fire that's feeding off
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Speaker 2: timber that's just been piled up like a funeral par
40:32
Speaker 2: around the feet of England. Meanwhile, Danika the boss of
40:38
Speaker 2: ex or Twitter Ela Musk isn't a brawl with Britain's
40:42
Speaker 2: prome skis Starmer, I must say, is acting like a
40:46
Speaker 2: weak man trying to be strong during this crisis. Starma tweeted,
40:51
Speaker 2: we will not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,
40:55
Speaker 2: which Musk quite reasonably replied, shouldn't you be concerned about
41:00
Speaker 2: to text on all communities? Is a Musk write? Hasn't
41:04
Speaker 2: he put a finger on something that's angering the anti
41:06
Speaker 2: immigration writers? You talk about two tier.
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Speaker 14: Policing, absolutely, Andrew, because this is what's been bubbling under
41:13
Speaker 14: the surface for so long. This is why the anti
41:15
Speaker 14: immigration protesters are so angry. And the more that they
41:19
Speaker 14: keep being called racists and bigots, the more that that
41:22
Speaker 14: pressure cook of continues to boil. And as we've seen
41:25
Speaker 14: in the last week, it's absolutely exploded. And what we've
41:28
Speaker 14: seen with Keir Starmer's response as well as the mainstream
41:31
Speaker 14: media in the UK, is this guilt that gets thrust
41:34
Speaker 14: upon white people who are historically perceived to have privilege
41:38
Speaker 14: and therefore, no, it can't possibly be the fault of
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Speaker 14: ethnic minorities or migrants. It's this perception of unconscious bias.
41:45
Speaker 14: Therefore it's easy, it's so easy and safe for Keir
41:48
Speaker 14: Starmer to take that safe fruit and not say we
41:51
Speaker 14: need to look after all communities. It's just all about
41:53
Speaker 14: the migrant communities. And you can't just lump everybody into
41:57
Speaker 14: this far right category when there are so many people
42:02
Speaker 14: who are genuinely concerned about the state of migration which
42:06
Speaker 14: has clearly failed in the UK, and the state of integration.
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Speaker 14: And that's not just also happening in the UK, Andrew,
42:14
Speaker 14: there are obvious concerns back here in Australia, but our
42:18
Speaker 14: leaders are so scared of being called racist that it's
42:22
Speaker 14: just easy for them to take the safe route, which
42:25
Speaker 14: is what we're seeing with Keir Starmer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's correct. But Will it's interesting, you know,
42:33
Speaker 2: you mentioned multiculturalism and this is showing the absurdities I
42:38
Speaker 2: think now of it, not only just in the fact
42:41
Speaker 2: that you know this idea that you could change your culture,
42:44
Speaker 2: and you know the people, the poor people culture you change,
42:50
Speaker 2: you won't object When a Prime minister usually wants to
42:53
Speaker 2: reach out to an ethnic group in this multicultural sort
42:57
Speaker 2: of world that's got issues that feels excluded, or when
43:01
Speaker 2: he wants something from that community, he goes to their
43:04
Speaker 2: community or religious leaders to make them feel included. So,
43:09
Speaker 2: given that this is a multi ethic right sort of
43:15
Speaker 2: situation where a lot of poor whites are part of
43:19
Speaker 2: the one of the groups who were the British Prime
43:21
Speaker 2: Minister and now reached out to talk to Indigenous Celts
43:26
Speaker 2: or Anglo Saxons leading assurance and settling down.
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Speaker 20: He needs to speak to Britons. Oh, we need to
43:40
Speaker 20: stop this mentality of putting people into these neat little
43:43
Speaker 20: racial or cultural categories and treating them differently. Starmer has
43:48
Speaker 20: developed a nickname in the UK now is two tier k,
43:52
Speaker 20: which goes to how he's effectively treating the problems associated
43:56
Speaker 20: with Islam or Islamic cultures in the UK differently to
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Speaker 20: white working class communities. And the easiest way is to say,
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Speaker 20: we are all Britons, we have a shared values, we
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Speaker 20: have a shared history, and we are going to enforce
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Speaker 20: the law and we're going to respect our values in
44:12
Speaker 20: an equal way. Unfortunately, we are not seeing that type
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Speaker 20: of leadership from a fundamentally weak and scared leader.
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Speaker 2: No, he bent the need to when the Black Lives
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Speaker 2: Matter protests and riots were on, but he's sending in
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Speaker 2: extra cops, are standing army, He's talking about when the
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Speaker 2: protesters are not black but white. That again, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: excuse them, but people are seeing. Now let's switch switch
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Speaker 2: to seriousness here. But Danika Mega Markel I'm afraid to
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Speaker 2: announce is back. She and husband Prince Harry have decided
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Speaker 2: to launch another in a few good projects that seemed
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Speaker 2: to last about five minutes, and once again it was
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Speaker 2: a pitty party, you know, inviting people to see how
44:58
Speaker 2: much they've suffered. I mean, Meg and Michael seemed to
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Speaker 2: hint that she'd have much more to say one day
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Speaker 2: about the supposedly horrible Royals.
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Speaker 21: I haven't really scraped the surface on my experience, but
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Speaker 21: I do think that I would never want someone else
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Speaker 21: to feel that way, and I would never want someone
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Speaker 21: else to be making those sort of plans, and I
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Speaker 21: would never want someone else to not be believed. So if
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Speaker 21: me voicing what I have overcome will save someone or
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Speaker 21: asks or encourage someone in their life to really genuinely
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Speaker 21: check in on them and not assume that the appearance
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Speaker 21: is good so everything's okay, then that's worth it. I'll
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Speaker 21: take a hit for that.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, Denis, because she hasn't scrape the surface, I thought
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Speaker 2: she had dumped it by a truckload already. How would
45:48
Speaker 2: you decode what she actually said there.
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Speaker 14: Well, Andrew, I would decode that as God help us,
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Speaker 14: God help the world, because here we go again. She's
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Speaker 14: clearly ready to launch another project into the media and
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Speaker 14: we're all going to hear about it. But look, Meghan,
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Speaker 14: they're doing what Meghan does best, a talking about herself.
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Speaker 14: B are feeling sorry for herself. So I think, Andrew,
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Speaker 14: what we can take from that is is that she's
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Speaker 14: preparing giving us a little teaser. Perhaps she's ready to
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Speaker 14: release another book. Maybe we'll be subjected to another series.
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Speaker 14: Maybe who knows. I mean, she's already, of course, just
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Speaker 14: released jam. In the last few months, she's released Dog Treats.
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Speaker 14: Obviously that's not going well enough for her, so she
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Speaker 14: needs to create a bit of mystery as to what
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Speaker 14: she might do next. So look, I hope they're enjoying
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Speaker 14: their privacy to her, Andrew.
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Speaker 4: They seem to be really relishing in it.
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Speaker 2: By the sounds, I was so sad they've only got
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Speaker 2: their misery to sell. I mean, they look miserable selling
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Speaker 2: misery as you would. Can I just switch to something
46:50
Speaker 2: I saw on your wonderful Twitter side will some footage
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Speaker 2: that escaped me. Now that Kamala Harris has taken her
46:59
Speaker 2: from Joe Barden in the election in solo Trump, people
47:02
Speaker 2: are actually forgetting I think how dangerously doddery the president
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Speaker 2: of the United States, the president of the free world,
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Speaker 2: really is. A few days ago it was with Harris
47:11
Speaker 2: the welcome American prisons have been freed in a swap
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Speaker 2: with Russia. He seemed to forget all of them. Of
47:17
Speaker 2: these ex prisons already left the plane, so had the pilots,
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Speaker 2: and he went on board as if maybe there's someone
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Speaker 2: up there. I don't know, and he didn't emerge from
47:27
Speaker 2: nearly two minutes. Now, look, maybe just one of the
47:31
Speaker 2: toilet old man's bladder problems, all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. But it was a bit weird, wasn't it.
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Speaker 20: This presidency has now devolved into just an extended Leslie
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Speaker 20: Nilson move here. It's actually pretty funny if it wasn't
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Speaker 20: so terrifying. There will be a book Andrew that will
47:49
Speaker 20: come out one day, a Bob Woodward or someone similar,
47:52
Speaker 20: where we will learn about the cover up of Joe
47:55
Speaker 20: Biden's mental health and everyone who is involved. It is
47:58
Speaker 20: one of the great Jiamate conspiracies of our time. And
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Speaker 20: unfortunately that cover up is still continuing. He's still the
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Speaker 20: president of the United States.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's actually it's actually fantastasized. I think they're also
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Speaker 2: covering up what an airhead the successor is. That's really freaky.
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Speaker 2: Will Kingston, Janika Di Giorgio, thank you both for your time.
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Speaker 2: Well that's it for me. Don't missus tomorrow, but coming
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Speaker 2: up now is Sharry Markson. For me, it's good night.