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Episode 26 Season 2 NFL Week 1 · ZBD Sports Podcast

0:39
SPEAKER_01: Back, baby.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: ZBD live in action.
0:43
SPEAKER_01: NFL is back.
0:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes up.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: Hype for the game day today for sure.
0:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: A lot of anticipation, man.
0:53
SPEAKER_01: Um Super Bowl rematch.
0:57
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
0:59
SPEAKER_01: Uh a lot of defense.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: Um kind of like last year.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Um Seattle.
1:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was unfortunate with uh Sam Darnold going out in that uh first drive.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, get into that game a little bit, and then um get going into some of the other games.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, coming up on Sunday against it.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: Tomorrow is Sunday, yeah.
1:22
SPEAKER_01: Or tomorrow Sunday.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah.
1:25
SPEAKER_01: Talk about that Rams Niners game a little bit more.
1:28
SPEAKER_01: But um because we covered a bit of the games um been going on on Sunday and that Monday night game because we started with that Chiefs Broncos game, but covered some of those other primetime Sunday games.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, I mean how how we feeling about football being back.
1:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know I'm excited.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: First weekend, um, the second weekend of college football.
1:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, don't even got college football in this lake, but we definitely could sneak a little bit of something in there for sure.
2:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: Um Michigan's got a huge game this week.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm I mean it it is.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's at home.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: You can talk about it.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: I guess that should be that should be the start of the fucking podcast.
2:14
SPEAKER_02: To be honest.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna let you just slide.
2:17
SPEAKER_02: But you wanted to bring up Michigan.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: I would if I was you, I wouldn't have said Ohio State lost like that.
2:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm wouldn't be.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: It's alright.
2:24
SPEAKER_01: I'd be hurting.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: You won again.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: In my mind, I'd be like, we lost.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'm afraid of what the fuck is coming soon.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: Well no, but you gotta be afraid of what's coming soon, what's coming next.
2:36
SPEAKER_02: Western Michigan give you all troubles.
2:38
SPEAKER_02: But anyways, we gotta stay on track.
2:41
SPEAKER_02: Stay on track.
2:42
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's fucking 10 minutes left when we cover Michigan and Western Michigan.
2:49
SPEAKER_02: So uh, no, yeah.
2:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh tonight was kind of what I expected to see.
2:55
SPEAKER_02: Um, obviously not the Sam Darner part, but a defensive affair.
3:00
SPEAKER_02: Um both teams got top five defenses.
3:03
SPEAKER_02: Really good, yeah.
3:04
SPEAKER_02: But it's hard to judge them because of Sam Darner not being there.
3:09
SPEAKER_02: So but I still, you know, we we know New England's defense will be top five, top ten.
3:14
SPEAKER_02: Seattle, you know, it kind of surprised me a little bit.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
3:19
SPEAKER_02: Kind of surprised me a little bit as good as they played.
3:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
3:23
SPEAKER_02: Um sweat dropped there.
3:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh a little surprise.
3:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, as good that defense played, to be honest with you, because they lost a couple pieces on that defense, a couple, not big pieces, but just um safety, lost a cornerback, witherspoon, Cody or Kobe Bryant um went to Chicago.
3:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh they lost Boye Mafe, the Cincinnati, um, lost another player.
3:54
SPEAKER_02: So they lost at least three or four people from that defense.
3:58
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I thought a defense would be really good.
4:01
SPEAKER_02: Right, but they picked up exactly where they left off today.
4:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, I looked at the numbers, they were stuffing that run um and kind of forced Drake.
4:09
SPEAKER_02: Drake made a I think it kind of forced New England to play a different approach than what they wanted.
4:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
4:15
SPEAKER_02: Especially knowing coming in that they didn't have their number one running back in Trayvon.
4:19
SPEAKER_01: And their number one receiver goes out midway in the third.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: So they only have seven points on the board at that point, and they're just throwing the ball trying to come back.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: So they was having a tough time even with him in the game.
4:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, with before he got hurt.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, but then also you know Sam Brown, Seattle didn't get a chance to Sam Brown got hurt first drive.
4:38
SPEAKER_02: So really didn't get a chance to see what their offense looked like.
4:41
SPEAKER_02: We see when New England's off they were winning because of that defense because Drew Lock and them couldn't get up the field.
4:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:47
SPEAKER_02: And they were getting that offense in good position, and all they can come up with what was 10 points at the half.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: Was that what it was, 10-0 at halftime or 10-3, I think, at halftime?
4:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
4:57
SPEAKER_02: It was 10-3, yeah.
4:58
SPEAKER_02: So kind of similar to what last year, what we've seen last year.
5:01
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
5:02
SPEAKER_02: Actually, kind of played worse, in my opinion, than what he played in the Super Bowl.
5:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
5:07
SPEAKER_02: Two interceptions in the fourth quarter, uh big interceptions, huh?
5:12
SPEAKER_02: Three overall, three overall, four, yeah, two in the fourth quarter.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: Damn, I would have to lose.
5:17
SPEAKER_02: Didn't even throw for 200 yards, I don't think.
5:19
SPEAKER_02: No, he didn't.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, and you know what I'm saying, that defense, and and they were even, not like I said, I'm giving credit to defense, but they, you know, we watched those interceptions, and that shit was not like, you know what I'm saying?
5:30
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't pressured, right?
5:32
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't one of those, he threw it in in triple double coverage, the first interception where it got ticked up, right?
5:38
SPEAKER_02: And then the second one, he threw it, and the receiver kind of fell down, but he threw it behind him and he threw it late.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: So both those interceptions was on him, and he wasn't getting pressured, neither one of those two times.
5:51
SPEAKER_02: So, you know what I'm saying?
5:52
SPEAKER_02: I just, you know, I think maybe this could be like uh you know, somebody have a sophomore.
5:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, some some people have sophomore years later, right?
6:00
SPEAKER_02: Because they always say the sophomore slump and shit like that, and he didn't have a sophomore slump last year, right?
6:06
SPEAKER_02: He kind of played better than what he did rookie year.
6:09
SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, maybe this is a year where he kind of takes a step back.
6:13
SPEAKER_02: Um because they invested a lot on him, brought over AJ Brown, brought Romeo Dobbs, traded away Keyshawn Booty.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: No, no, yeah, yeah, Romeo Dobbs.
6:22
SPEAKER_01: Well dude, also, I mean, bro, you get Dobbs and he had some he had some tough drops in that fourth quarter as well.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: That might have been points.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, might not have changed the game at the at the end of it because they did have the ball at the end.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: Well, one shit.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: Both of them would have been first down.
6:40
SPEAKER_02: So it did change.
6:41
SPEAKER_02: It changed the game plan.
6:43
SPEAKER_02: It went from second and eight.
6:45
SPEAKER_01: It did it did, but they still had the ball in field goal range and they threw a pick.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: So they could they could have put the game to could have gone to overtime, but they decided to throw the ball.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that I mean that was a different drive.
6:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm talking about that same the drive.
7:00
SPEAKER_02: Both so the first drive when he dropped the ball, they ended up having an opponent after that.
7:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: And then they went for it.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's right.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: They went for it, and that's when the drive kept going because yeah, because Seattle didn't get the ball back after that.
7:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, those, I mean, those catches, I mean, it would have got him down there a little bit.
7:20
SPEAKER_01: A little faster.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, no, they just yeah, see how the first time Seattle did get the ball back.
7:25
SPEAKER_02: And Seattle didn't do anything with it.
7:27
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, they kicked the field goal because it was it was uh or it was 10-10.
7:31
SPEAKER_02: The for that first time that when Romeo Dobbs, yeah, when Romeo Dobbs dropped that one, it was like third down.
7:37
SPEAKER_02: They did go for it, and I believe they may have gotten it, but Seattle got the ball back again during that time.
7:44
SPEAKER_02: Got down to whatever, because remember, we looked and we was like, that should have been passive interference on JS on them for JS and they ended up kicking that field goal, and then that next possession was a roll out play, and they threw it, and Dobbs fucking dropped that too, and then the next play he threw an interception.
7:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: I know, yeah, because I knew I knew I knew he had a few drops.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he did, yeah.
8:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, so he had drops on both drives, which is uh, yeah, which is tough.
8:10
SPEAKER_02: And I'll say this because you know, if you if he catches that ball on the second one, right, it's it's first down instead of it being third down in whatever it was.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: So now Drake May doesn't have to force it and try to get it.
8:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
8:22
SPEAKER_02: And Drake May doesn't have to try to force it.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: But if you think the next play after that is when Drake May throws that interception, but it's also third and like 12 or whatever it is, or whatever, third, it's long and long distance.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: So he will Drake May wouldn't have to throw that ball or try to get the first down if he catches the ball.
8:43
SPEAKER_02: But he tried to get the first down, and that's when O Dude fell and he caught the interception.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: And you know what I'm saying?
8:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
8:49
SPEAKER_02: And then that was, and then Seattle didn't score, didn't do anything, and that New England got the ball back, converted on a couple fourth downs, drove it, and then they threw an interception again.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: They drove it.
9:02
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, three, yeah, three interceptions in the fourth quarter.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of crazy.
9:06
SPEAKER_01: Drove it down the field, too.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: They didn't look bad.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: They didn't.
9:10
SPEAKER_02: All three of those were bad throws.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: All three of those are interceptions.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:14
SPEAKER_01: You gotta be able to get seven points.
9:16
SPEAKER_02: Especially, you don't even need seven points, bro.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: You're down by three.
9:19
SPEAKER_02: You're on your own 31-yard line.
9:21
SPEAKER_02: Just throw the ball away.
9:23
SPEAKER_02: Right?
9:24
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
9:24
SPEAKER_02: Like at this point, just throw the ball away.
9:26
SPEAKER_02: Don't isn't if you're down by a touchdown, that's understandable.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: But you're down by three by three fucking points.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: Take it to overtime.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Throwing it in double coverage against the Seahawks.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: And and that one wasn't even double coverage, but it just was No, I'm pretty sure.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, in the end?
9:41
SPEAKER_02: The end one?
9:42
SPEAKER_02: Was it double coverage?
9:43
SPEAKER_02: I feel like it was, bro.
9:45
SPEAKER_02: No, it was one-on-one.
9:46
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: But he came over and got it and had to tiptoe.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: It was one-on-one.
9:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you had to tiptoe and get it in there.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: But it just wasn't a good throw because he wasn't, he was covered.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
9:59
SPEAKER_02: And at that point, you gotta kind of do a lob pass, right?
10:01
SPEAKER_02: You gotta do a jump ball.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: If you're gonna throw it like that, you gotta do a jump ball to give your receiver a chance.
10:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so he can go to the game.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: He threw it to fucking Matt Hollins on like, you know what I'm saying?
10:11
SPEAKER_02: I get it, you AJ Brown's gone, but you brought in, we brought Romeo Dobbs in for a fucking reason to let go of Keyshawn Booty.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: Which I think they may see that that's probably a mistake.
10:23
SPEAKER_02: Because Booty is 24 and have some upside, played really good for New England last year.
10:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh, wasn't really a number one, so that's why they wouldn't have got AJ Brown, but he was a decent number two.
10:35
SPEAKER_02: And then Jaden Higgins towards ACL and Houston, and then Houston made a trade for Keyshawn Booty, mainly because they got Romeo Dobbs.
10:44
SPEAKER_02: But I just, you know, I'm like, Romeo Dobbs didn't do shit for Green Bay when he was there.
10:49
SPEAKER_02: Didn't do shit.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: He had he had he had some sparks.
10:52
SPEAKER_01: He had some.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: Couple games.
10:54
SPEAKER_02: Couple, but he wasn't, to me, not worth the money that New England paid him.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: They paid him to be a number two.
10:59
SPEAKER_02: He ain't a number two.
11:01
SPEAKER_02: Number two is not coming out of this motherfucker with zero points, zero catches in the first game.
11:07
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: He did nothing.
11:09
SPEAKER_02: Why'd you pick him up, bruh?
11:11
SPEAKER_02: Because he was project.
11:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Romeo's probably might he might get eight, nine points.
11:15
SPEAKER_02: I was expecting him to get seven, eight points.
11:16
SPEAKER_02: That's really what I was expecting.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't expecting he was projected to get nine points.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: So my nine points is fine.
11:22
SPEAKER_02: You got a little dud?
11:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, we did.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: A little dud.
11:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, big dud.
11:27
SPEAKER_02: Big donut.
11:29
SPEAKER_02: Big circle.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
11:31
SPEAKER_02: But he does that though, but I don't, it was probably was an auto draft or some shit like that, or I was trying to fill my roster.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: But I took him out for Parker Washington and I shouldn't have.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: But I'm like, you know what?
11:43
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he just gets one touchdown.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: Right?
11:46
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's fucking, maybe AJ Brown is double team or not having a good game, whatever.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: Because they're gonna put their best receiver on AJ Brown.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, you know, maybe Romeo Dobbs can have one of them fucking games where he just like, you know what I'm saying, be the hero of the game, seven catches, whatever it is.
12:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, you never know.
12:03
SPEAKER_02: It's football.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: You never know.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
12:05
SPEAKER_02: You leave a motherfucker out in your lineup, and the next thing you know, nigga dropped 20 points.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: He's like, oh my god, bro.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: This motherfucker ain't dropped 20 points all year.
12:12
SPEAKER_02: And the minute I take his ass out of the lineup, he drops 20.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: That is the thing about fantasy for uh damn, that's crazy.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: I just gotta let you know who Barry Melrose is, right?
12:23
SPEAKER_02: ESPN analyst, no one ever heard?
12:25
SPEAKER_02: Big hockey analyst, ESPN.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, anybody watch ESPN from you know sports center, shit like that.
12:32
SPEAKER_02: He's on Sports Center a lot.
12:34
unknown: Who?
12:34
SPEAKER_02: Barry Melrose, bro.
12:36
SPEAKER_02: Anytime they would talk about hockey, they would bring him in.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: If I if I saw his face, I'm like, I know sorry, it's a little bit he just died.
12:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he just died.
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, bro.
12:44
SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: RIP Jerry.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh god, yeah.
12:47
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of sports-wise related, so I felt like I should, you know, Jerry Melrose.
12:51
SPEAKER_02: Barry Melrose.
12:53
SPEAKER_02: R.I.P.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: Barry.
12:54
SPEAKER_02: Him right here.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: You never seen him?
12:57
SPEAKER_02: This is no way you had to see this thing at least once or twice on an ESPN, bro.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: Anytime they cover hockey, Red Wings, any hockey, bro, he was on that bitch.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, maybe once.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
13:09
SPEAKER_02: He went on it a lot, but like, because they don't really cover hockey like they do football and basketball, but I don't watch a crazy amount of hockey either.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't either, but I mean I just remember as like younger watching Sports Center putting it on and like they bring in Barry Miller.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean Rocky.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: Yes, Barry Matt.
13:24
SPEAKER_02: That's something I'll figure I might do.
13:25
SPEAKER_02: Anybody who's like just tune, put in Sports Center.
13:28
SPEAKER_01: I only started watching Sports Center in like fucking 2016, 2014.
13:34
SPEAKER_02: So when he was on there for sure.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
13:36
SPEAKER_02: Like that was his, I feel like that's his prime.
13:38
SPEAKER_02: I feel like when I was seeing him the most was like around that time.
13:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
13:42
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, it doesn't matter.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: It is what it is.
13:44
SPEAKER_02: But uh yeah, R.S.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: Peter Brown.
13:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean it matters what I'm saying, like it doesn't matter that you don't know who he is.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: No, you know what I'm saying?
13:50
SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: But it matters that he, yeah, R.I.P.
13:54
SPEAKER_02: Never met the guy, but we love him as a sports fan.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
13:59
SPEAKER_02: And he's the only motherfucker they brought in for hockey.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, but uh going back to the game.
14:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I mean, I both defenses play good.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh, both defense, you know what I'm saying?
14:11
SPEAKER_02: But uh it just took, you know, that one big play really from JSN to kind of change the whole game.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Interceptions changed it, but they have been stifling Drake May all game, right?
14:23
SPEAKER_02: They just needed something to happen offensively or pick six or something like that.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: And you know what I mean?
14:29
SPEAKER_02: All it took was that that fucking, you know, 10-yard catch turned into a 45-yard touchdown, and momentum was broken, and that crowd got involved.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: Yep, and they gave Drew Luck all the confidence that he needed.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: The defense got turned up after that touchdown, too.
14:45
SPEAKER_02: And he realized all I gotta do is find number 11, and we'll be okay.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: It took me three quarters to realize it, but not enough realize it.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: We just gotta, you know what I'm saying, find number 11 and shit.
14:57
SPEAKER_01: No, I mean, now now Drew Luck's in there and he's got he's got a little bit of confidence.
15:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I mean, dude, he played a lot better.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he played a lot better than Drake May did.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: If Sam Darnold is out for substantial time, they're in trouble.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I'm just gonna.
15:12
SPEAKER_02: Let me tell you that right now.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: For sure.
15:13
SPEAKER_02: This is one game.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: He's not like, and I'm gonna tell you this right here.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: He's still he played away.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: If you think about it, bro, the the offense kind of has an advantage over a defense when you even when your when your star quarterback goes out, right?
15:28
SPEAKER_02: Because all week your preparation, your film is on Sam Darnold.
15:33
SPEAKER_02: You're not looking at Drew Locke, you're not watching film with Drew Locke, you're not watching, you're watching film with Sam Darnold, JSN, their offense.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
15:41
SPEAKER_02: So when you bring when a player gets hurt, it fucks up your whole game plan, right?
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Because you're scheme, you scheme up the style.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, so technically, if you want to think about the offense, kind of is, I mean, it's not anything, I mean, it is, but they're not like they got a quarterback maybe who sucks, but the all the defense don't know what to expect, right?
15:59
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of similar when you see them rookie quarterbacks come in those first years and have tremendous years, Jaden Daniels, CJ Stroud.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: We've seen it from numerous quarterbacks, and then that next year or whatever, it's a little bit different because that defense got film on them.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: Like you can go watch film on college football, but that's not gonna help exactly.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
16:19
SPEAKER_02: So you kind of don't know how to prepare and and prep against this person.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, Seattle kind of had a little advantage in that aspect.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, but with that being said, New England, with that being said, New England should have definitely won this game.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, this could be one of those games you look back later on when when it's when they're fucking you know tied up with Buffalo or a game behind Buffalo or whatever, and they finish second place and don't get home field advantage, and you look back, and you might oh they have five losses, and one of them was against the Seattle team without the starting quarterback.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: So by three points.
16:56
SPEAKER_02: Right, and it's good, yeah, exactly.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: This could be a game that comes back at home.
16:59
SPEAKER_01: And it should have at least went to overtime.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: Like you should have at least had a chance.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: Quarterback couldn't, I mean, he threw three fucking picks, bro.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: I still believe in Drake May.
17:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't I think he'll be he'll be fine.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: No, but I no, he'll definitely repeat.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: And tonight showed me they they let the raids off of him.
17:16
SPEAKER_02: That means tonight showed me that they are like the offense is now revolving around Drake May.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: Right?
17:23
SPEAKER_02: Because he was not, he didn't have a terrific fucking college career, wasn't highly touted or styled, wasn't a a person, a Jaden Daniels, a Caleb Williams, uh whatever, you know what I'm saying?
17:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, he wasn't a Cam Ward, like he wasn't that type of quarterback coming in.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: He wasn't as highly hyped up.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: He just wasn't as hyped up.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I mean he didn't he and he played okay for North Carolina.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Like I remember watching him play.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: He was he was good, but you know, I just I didn't you mean he didn't look like he was in any in prime or another one's Mac Jones, you know what I'm saying?
18:00
SPEAKER_02: He looked really good in college.
18:01
SPEAKER_02: Mac Jones looked like, you know what I'm saying, and then they drafted Mac Jones and gave his ass two to three years and he was out.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: And then they brought in Drake May.
18:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, so I think this, and and you know, you kind of gotta you gotta see what your quarterback characteristics and the shit to kind of build around it and see what he's done.
18:19
SPEAKER_02: So now, and you're not gonna really do that right off the first, second year because you don't know if the investment is worth it, right?
18:25
SPEAKER_02: But now that they're like, okay, we went to a Super Bowl with this dude after having one of the biggest turnarounds in NFL history, going from fucking four and whatever to fucking 13.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
18:39
SPEAKER_01: So like 15 and 3, but we'll see how that's we'll see how that schedule treats in this year.
18:45
SPEAKER_01: Because they did have the easiest schedule since like fucking 1997 or some shit.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: For a team to probably have the easiest schedule for a team to have.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: The Patriots had that last year.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: So ever?
18:57
SPEAKER_02: Since 97?
18:58
SPEAKER_02: Or maybe for a team that made a Super Bowl probably.
19:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't know ever.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Because I think teams be having cake schedule.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: So it's probably the easiest schedule to honor.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or something else.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: I think it's probably easier.
19:15
SPEAKER_01: But still though.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: Still.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's they didn't like I mean I mean they had their like who's who's it's the Bills?
19:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so they only gotta worry about the job.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: They went one and one with them last year, didn't they?
19:32
SPEAKER_01: That was one of their losses.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I still think the Bills are uh I still think New England's is a better team in that division.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I haven't seen it.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: We'll find out, yeah, we'll find yeah, we'll find out as a year goes.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: Really that's what it is for me.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: That's I'm I'm in in the coaching.
19:52
SPEAKER_02: We I don't know if Joe Brady is gonna be a good fit for Buffalo.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: They got a lot of things to figure out in Buffalo, and people are just are expecting him to pick up where they left off last year, and I get it because they got Josh Allen and they picked up DJ Moore, but the defense they didn't get anybody.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: And this is a year older for Josh Allen.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: DJ Moore's not young.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, they don't still got Shakir.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: He's okay.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you got Yemi Yetsa and Keon Come.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: They're about to move away from I mean he didn't play the last like five, six games last year.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: He was inactive.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: No injury, he's they just didn't play him.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
20:28
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
20:28
SPEAKER_02: So they've kind of I feel like he was a high draft pick that they were.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, they probably giving him a little a little bit of trying to see just you know, if he can maybe pick it up this year or something like that.
20:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: But he was they took him early.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, why would you why would you put him as inactive and then fucking and then take off the field issues over the offseason?
20:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
20:55
SPEAKER_01: But he was not injured.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: So we'll see.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: But I mean going past that a little bit, so um, I mean, Patriots 0-1.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: Going um they're at home against the Steelers next week.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, when that'll probably bond.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: And then Seahawks, Cardinals.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, when that.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: Seattle Price.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, we don't know.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: It depends on Sam Darnold.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we don't know.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: That could be a close.
21:28
SPEAKER_02: You know they beat the rent, they beat whatchamacallit today, but Cardinals is a divisional opponent.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: That's a familiar face.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: They see them every and they squeak by today.
21:39
unknown: Right?
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Like they squeak by.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: They got my boy Trey McBride.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: Need the play need him to play good.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: And let's think about it.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: All right, the defense gave got them three interceptions and they won by three points.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: So there's some, there's there's positive, but there's some negative, right?
21:54
SPEAKER_02: There's you're not gonna be able to live on those types of getting three turnovers and put producing 13 points.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: And having three points until nine, eight, seven, whatever minutes it was until the fourth quarter when they scored.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: Right?
22:07
SPEAKER_02: So they were dead in the waters.
22:08
SPEAKER_02: If New England would have scored a touchdown, the game would have been over.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: Right?
22:12
SPEAKER_02: So I mean that, and so that's what I'm saying.
22:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, Seattle definitely knows they're in trouble.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: They definitely know that they're gonna be looking maybe for a Joe Flacco, a fucking, you know, an older type of coach.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe a carton win.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: Or one of those, they're looking for they're gonna look for one of those fucking.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: If Drew Locke comes out and sits the bet against Arizona next year, or not next year, but next week, they're gonna know.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: If Sam Brown's gonna be out for a while, we gotta figure something out.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: Because we can't maybe Jalen Millrow gets a chance.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: But Drew Locke is the backup for a reason and ain't started for a reason, so.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: I did forget Jalen Miller was the what is he, the third strain?
22:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, or I mean he's second strain.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Second train now, but yeah.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy, bro.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean, we probably I mean we see some snaps from Jalen Milrow probably before anybody else.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean I feel like they probably wouldn't sign another quarterback because cause they already have like I mean I I don't think San Bonno's gonna be out for super long.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: Like he didn't, I mean, unless they didn't play tonight.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: The night's we won.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: No, yeah, I mean it's I mean, unless it's something like um like fucking I mean I mean but I mean with the hip, I guess I mean I guess it's surgery, it could be I guess it is kind of tough to tell, but he he looked like he was I mean he looked like he was walking off, like he had a little bit of a limp, but he was I mean he was walking off on it is a good sign.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: He didn't really need a ton of help, but just I mean just having that limp is definitely tough.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: You can kind of tell from right when it happens, which is not good.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah.
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I was gonna fucking we were talking about um Bills a little bit.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: We didn't talk about Bill's Texans last week, did we?
23:59
SPEAKER_02: We did.
24:00
SPEAKER_02: You paid Bills, I paid Texans.
24:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
24:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: So switch over into one of these other games.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: Um one of these one o'clock.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Uh we didn't talk about the Vikings, uh Vikings Packers, did we?
24:17
SPEAKER_01: Not a really divisional.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Divisional matchup should be getting start with this one.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh 425 matchup.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: At the moment, uh Minnesota is favored.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: In Minnesota?
24:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: Um Green Bay definitely has some things to figure out this week more.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Um question marks, yeah.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't think they I mean they know what they're I mean, they know what they're expecting.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: But I mean also kind of nut because they have um I think I was listening, so they have I can't remember the running back's name.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: That's their number one right now.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: But I mean they're probably gonna do it by committee.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: They're probably gonna put two or three guys out there, just kind of share the snaps.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I don't think any of their running backs that they have that are gonna play on Sunday have more than 10 snaps.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that yeah.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: So they've been in the league for a few years, and I mean they're gonna they're gonna get their chance.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: Um with fucking Josh Jacobs, probably probably being out for the rest of the year.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: Potentially, or a long substantial time at least.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I mean it's gonna be, and I mean we know Jordan Love can you know Jordan Love can take the offense on this back a little bit, and I mean he's got three receivers over there in Green Bay that are definitely under a little bit of pressure with uh Jaden Reed, Christian Watson.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Golden's not really under as much pressure.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, like Jaden Reed's been pretty solid for Green Bay.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's more say healthy.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's it's Watson, but Watson just got paid at all.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: He just he just got paid though, so he's not even really stressing.
25:58
SPEAKER_01: But um, no, I mean dude, my my boy Amos, bro, he's always fucking talking about Packers just make it to the first round every year, and then they get knocked out, so it's kind of same old.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: And they don't got Jacobs or Parsons to start the year, so yeah.
26:15
SPEAKER_01: Um the Packers might be Packers might be dumb bad for a little bit, like the first two months of the season, month and a half.
26:25
SPEAKER_01: But um having said all that, you uh you got the packs?
26:34
SPEAKER_01: Or you like um you like Kyler Murray and the Vikings in his first game?
26:43
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
26:44
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, dude.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: I think the I think the Vikings will probably snag this first one.
26:49
SPEAKER_01: Honestly.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, man, because like it's tough because it isn't it's a new offense over there in Minnesota.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: They don't they don't know fully what they're expecting.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: Well it's it's still the same running back, though.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: It's still the same running back, and they've had this can't I mean they've had a good amount of time to train, and you have Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, which are two two solid wide receivers.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: You got one on each end and TJ Hawkinson at tight end.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: So and Kyler Murray, it's not like he's new to the new to the league, and he's had good receivers before.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: Like he played with McBride, played for played with uh Marvin Harrison for a little bit.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: Hopkins.
27:32
SPEAKER_01: But some of the Hopkins too.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, D Hop, yeah.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: No, so I mean we'll see.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Um I I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota kind of comes comes flying, comes flying out.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: Green Bay.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: You got Green Bay.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Watch out for Tucker Kraft.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think he'll be a big, big, big target for Jordan Love.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Tucker Kraft will be.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: He's a good tight end, top five, my mind.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: It's just gonna be interesting to see how much they can get on the run game and how rely, how reliant they're gonna be on Jordan Love.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, because the thing about Jordan Love can also get out on his feet as well.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: So he can he can take a little bit of that running game apart for himself.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: We'll see see how that game goes.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: But I mean it's gonna it's gonna be a close one.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: Um week one divisional matchup.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I mean I'm excited for that one for sure.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think yeah, I think I got fucking Vikings.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: I think they'll I think they'll take that home that home opening.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: I mean I could I can see JJ getting off to a good start.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: Um is it is it still Jordan Mason?
28:53
SPEAKER_01: Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones?
28:56
SPEAKER_01: Right?
28:57
SPEAKER_01: Starting, yeah.
28:58
SPEAKER_01: That's not a bad, that's not a bad running back combo against the Green Bay.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not even like they still have a pretty good defense other than like with Parsons out, but I know their defense changes a lot without that.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Van Ness is still there, they got some couple pieces uh that can still cause some havoc.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: But I don't know, I Minnesota can win the game.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it'll be one because you wouldn't bet on Green Bay per se.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: Like it's not like I'm putting money on him, but if I'm like, I gotta choose between the two, I think I'm gonna go with uh better quarterback.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: Um Jordan Love.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's it's not not super far off.
29:47
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't say Kyler Murray is a ton behind him.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: Kyle Murray I mean he but he was he was he was projected higher.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: One or two playoffs.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: When they came in when they came when they came into the league, he was projected higher, though.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: For sure.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: Jordan Love has got more playoff wins than Kyler Murray.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: And he's been in the league longer than Jordan Love.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: So that's fair.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you gotta you gotta look at the systems that they're in as well.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: He's been in Arizona.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean he had a good team in Arizona, had a really good team at a certain point in time.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: Arizona was really good.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: Okay, uh Ravens Colts, Dan Jones, Lamar, Derek Henry, Jonathan Taylor.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: Um it should, yeah.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it should be a pretty close game.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: Baltimore favorite three and a half.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: Um Colts are at home.
30:42
SPEAKER_01: They're coming to Indianapolis for week one.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: What do we think about this B?
30:50
SPEAKER_01: Any thoughts on that thing now?
30:52
SPEAKER_01: You got any input?
30:53
unknown: The mastermind Colts.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Kind of put you on the spot there, but I think the Colts are.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean I don't know a thing about the Colts, bro.
31:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they got Dan, they got Dan Jones coming back, and that's all that matters.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: He's fucking slinging that thing back there.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: And he he's I mean, I don't know about the receiving core they got over there, but um I feel like that that was a team that didn't really sign a ton of people or lose a ton of people, if I'm mistaken.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Right?
31:25
SPEAKER_01: The Colts kind of kind of kept their team together for the most part.
31:30
SPEAKER_01: Um unfortunate that Dan Jones went out at the end of last year, but he's back.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: Um Alec Pierce, Josh Downs, Keenan Allen.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Um I know they're excited for Keenan Allen over there in Indianapolis.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: He might have another year over there.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: Pat McAfee.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: Pat McAfee's excited for him, I know that.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Why?
31:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, dude, because he's a veteran.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: He's a veteran.
31:59
SPEAKER_01: He can.
32:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, dude, I mean, just in those in those crucial plays.
32:04
SPEAKER_01: You get a third and third and five.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: Keenan Allen's done.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: He's done.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I say that.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: He's done.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I say that.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: But then they also got Tyler Warren tight end.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Tyler Warren's not a bad tight end either.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: We went from the Chargers to the Bears back to the Chargers, now to the fucking Colts.
32:21
unknown: Who?
32:22
SPEAKER_02: Tyler?
32:23
SPEAKER_02: No, Ean.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: Keenan Allen, bro.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: Alright, well, he he is their number three.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: That's all I was thinking.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah.
32:32
SPEAKER_01: Alex Pierce is questionable.
32:34
SPEAKER_02: So he's their best receiver, but he's always it dep it depends.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: But Keenan Allen's gonna get some probably some grabs, maybe.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: I think Tyler.
32:43
SPEAKER_01: I think Tyler Warren will get some grabs as well.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yes, yeah.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: Actually, sorry, that's their best receiver.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: Tyler Warren will be.
32:49
SPEAKER_02: He's a tight end, but still received, but yeah, he's their best option passing.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: They got Dan Jones back out there.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: We'll see how he already plays.
32:57
SPEAKER_02: Been a while since he played.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean it's a pretty decent Raven defense, so.
33:03
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I feel like the Ravens always play pretty good week one.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: I feel like they always have a hard matchup week one as well.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: And they always barely lose it.
33:12
SPEAKER_01: So this this year it's a little bit easier.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: They do have to go on the road again.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: Or, I mean, this they have to go on the road.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's again or not, but um, yeah, I'm probably I'm probably taking probably taking the Ravens right here.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: Um Lamar, I mean, new coach.
33:31
SPEAKER_01: We also kind of don't really know where he's like new coach is gonna be a different different I mean not a different team for the Ravens, but definitely definitely a little bit of a different look.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: Um new head coach.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: They did just resign Henry though, so I feel like I mean Baltimore's not really a team that made a ton of changes in the off offseason either, did they?
33:53
SPEAKER_01: Brought over Trey Henderson, oh yeah.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for yeah, for the for the defense.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: I didn't forget about that.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: Some of the Hopkins retired.
34:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh they didn't really pick up any receivers again.
34:07
SPEAKER_02: They still got Zay Flowers, Bateman, uh, Mark Andrews lost Isaiah Likely to the Giants.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: So I mean yeah, but they're their number yeah, their number three receiver is Jacoby Lane.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: They got him from losses, I don't believe.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: He's a rookie, I think.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Jacoby Lane's a rookie.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's 22 from USC.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's yeah.
34:40
SPEAKER_02: So it's not like another slot receiver.
34:43
unknown: Okay.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we'll see what we'll see what he can do.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: We know we know you know some rookies can come over to have a little bit of an impact, especially when Zay Flowers and Rashad and Dayton aren't.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're I mean they're pretty good ones and twos, but they're not always gonna be super consistent.
35:01
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I feel like Flowers, like Flowers is not really super consistent to get into the end zone.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean they're pretty run-heavy as well.
35:14
SPEAKER_01: So but yeah, I mean we'll see how that game goes.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: If it's a bit more I mean, I feel like Indianapolis has got a pretty good defense, Baltimore's got a pretty good defense.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: Um neither one of them are gonna let anything go by easy.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: Um but dude, I can't uh no, I like the Ravens.
35:39
SPEAKER_01: I like the Ravens.
35:40
SPEAKER_01: I think the last few years they've had bad luck in week one.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: Um and but they I mean I they they could lose this game as well.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: Like this is a little bit of a toss-up just being in Indianapolis, Dan Jones having his first game back, they still have a good offense.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Um I mean, they get the same offenses they did last year, so I can see them coming out and flowing.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, I mean we'll see if Trey Hendrickson um that defense can step up a little bit.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: Still got Rokwan Smith.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: So Carl Hamilton.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, best best defender could be Carl Hamilton.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: Kind of like their leader at this point.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: Um we got uh uh Denzel Wiggins or or Wiggins as uh I think it is Denzel Wiggins, yeah.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Nate Nate, yeah, sorry, Nate Wiggins as uh their corner.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean Marlon Holmes.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: Alfred a little older.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: But Wiggins is definitely a better corner of the two.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: Well yeah, they don't mean it, yeah.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: He's questionable.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: Dude, I have one of them on my fantasy, dude.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like depending on who it is, I think he's I think he's probable.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: But um, what do you think about that game though?
37:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm just kind of going in um week one.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: Don't kind of don't know what to expect out of either team, because it's a new head coach and then this quarterback's coming back from an ACL.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I mean yeah, it depends on how I think whoever can establish the run game first um will kind of be the the the winner of the better team.
37:32
SPEAKER_02: Um they got two good running games, so whoever can kind of control the clock the most um I think will win the game.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: So I mean you got uh Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones who are mobile.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: And then the same thing with Mark Lowe.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: So it's you know, it's gonna be a battle of the running, or it may be, well opposite, it could be whatever quarterback that can uh make them throws or those extra play, you know what I'm saying?
38:00
SPEAKER_02: Like the running game isn't going good.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: Because both defenses are gonna, you know, probably stack the box and and play it safe as far as the running, kind of let the quarterbacks like uh, you know what I'm saying, do their thing or like, you know what I'm saying?
38:18
SPEAKER_02: It depends.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: I just know that both game plans, the Scott and Ports from either team is gonna be number one stop the runner.
38:26
SPEAKER_02: Let's take Derrick Henry out of the game, let's take Lamar out of the game with the running, and same thing with Jonathan Taylor and him.
38:33
SPEAKER_02: So I think that's it's gonna be interesting.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: Week one is always interesting, always, because it's hard to get a tell on what a team is gonna be like because a team can come out and play really well or stink up the place and still have either a good season or a bad season.
38:51
SPEAKER_02: So week one is different because a lot of you know starters haven't played at all since fucking for some people they ain't played since fucking December, right?
39:01
SPEAKER_02: Like missing the playoffs and shit like that.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, most of them don't play during preseason.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: So you looking at a players and starters who ain't played in close to a year, you know, it's eight, nine months of shit since the last time they've touched a meaningful game or got on the field in this meaningful game.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: Right, and so uh it's gonna be a lot of rust, of course, like tonight.
39:26
SPEAKER_02: Tonight was, you know.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: But it's all but it's also that experience, though.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, Daniel Jones has played seven, eight years.
39:36
SPEAKER_02: Lamar Jackson.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: They got drafted on yeah, yeah.
39:40
SPEAKER_01: So I mean kind of the same as both.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
39:43
SPEAKER_01: It's the same for both.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: Derrick Henry's been in there for a while, and JT's been in there for a while.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, so I mean they've I mean they've been like they've been in there.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Like they don't know like they know what week one looks like.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: Like they know that there's gonna be a little bit of rust, but they also know that they're that they're the pros they are.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: They had um they have the seasons they did last year, you know what I'm saying?
40:04
SPEAKER_01: So looking to build off that for sure.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: Um and I mean, yeah.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: I mean, because I mean we're we're definitely gonna see some some of these games, week one, are gonna be offensive, like I mean, they're definitely gonna be offensive offensive spurts.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: Some of these uh some of these quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, whatever it is you're gonna find.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, are gonna have crazy games.
40:26
SPEAKER_01: There's gonna be connecting off rip, and we'll see if that can last for two.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we'll see if it can last through a few weeks and if they get hot or if it's still week one, week two, and then they get a little bit more like like what we were saying earlier, just about the film.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: I mean, just having certain certain type of film on them, just knowing what type of plays their tendency is.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's their go-to's kind of type thing, but um, yeah.
40:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we'll see.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you got uh Ravens tag game as well.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: I think so.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: One of them games where I gotta kinda watch how the first half goes, how the game's going to choose uh the winner.
41:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, depending on how that Ravens offense looks though, it can I feel like if they're if they're getting stopped for for a little like I mean, I don't know.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's I feel like that offense over the last few years is kinda hard to get a little bit of juice in like after they've just been getting I mean like like even if it's like one or two first down, if they're getting off if they're punting, like it's just taking juice, it's just taking energy out of them, and they're just getting deflated.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: Um kind of seeing that the last few years with the Ravens a little bit, I feel like um defense has just been on the field for a little bit longer than they want to be.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: Lamar has been he wasn't healthy last year most of the season and the year before that.
42:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean it was only I mean it was like yeah, I guess it was like the last he was only healthy for like seven or eight games, maybe less than that.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Um we lost in the AOC divisional game ravens.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: Was it not the Chiefs?
42:39
SPEAKER_02: Or no the Chiefs, they went to the AFC Championship game in 2024.
42:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they yeah, they lost to the Chiefs because the Chiefs um end up losing to the Eagles in the Super Bowl.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: Because the Eagles are indefinite champs coming in last year and they played the Kansas City Chiefs in a Super Bowl, and then the Ravens had the best record in the AFC that year, I believe.
43:14
unknown: Oh yeah.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: And they won they played Kansas City, I mean Kansas City beat them in Baltimore.
43:21
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, so like yeah, like I say, like they had a it's kind of tough, bro.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, the teams you're going up against are like, I mean, you can be as good as you can be, but it's kinda I mean it's also just the teams you're going up against at the time, like you might you can be as good as you can be, but you might just not be able to be as like just to be able to be as good as that other team in your conference.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: Like I mean for the last five, ten like I mean for the last like eight years or so, almost decades been the Chiefs.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: Chiefs, I mean if you I mean if you can't find a way to be that defense and also I mean also Patrick like I mean just Pat pulling fucking plays out of his ass on like on third down some fourth I mean just whatever whatever it is he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna move you up the field somehow unless you yeah unless you can play unless you can find a cure for that in the uh in the playoffs which luckily um the Chiefs weren't in the playoffs last year so that was that was a bright spot for the NFL I think you know it was nice to not see the Chiefs in the playoffs but also my boy Josh Howard god damn it god damn it Josh couldn't get past the second game classic playoff Josh I was expecting some more I won't lie to you but um yeah I mean that kind of kind of get over onto the next game a little bit kind of ramp it off a little bit um my phone I won't commanders and equals okay healthy Jaden Daniels coming into the year going into Philly um his third year right so yeah I mean last year last year I was replayed it was it was tough he got he got injured like three different times yeah it was tough for sure but um he's fighting back to like I mean it's it's all you can do when you love the game you're this young you're getting paid this much that's all you can do so he's fighting back and hopefully um he can stay relatively healthy this year um they got uh oh they got rid of or no they still have McLaurin um they got rid of Debo doll didn't they they sent Debo guys to the 49ers um running games okay yeah they got digs okay Clory Cross getting there a little bit of a yeah question mark for is the line is the line gonna protect him or is he gonna go line bullied?
46:25
SPEAKER_01: Because we can't afford Jaden Daniels to get bullied because the line shit because we know Jaden Daniels is gonna go down he got injured three different times last year and we know he wants to run out of the pocket.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: We know he wants to get out of the pocket and fucking get those yards on his legs and a lot of like three out of five or fucking like seven out of ten or eight out of ten times that's gonna work.
46:53
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
46:54
SPEAKER_01: But a few of those tackles he's gonna run into the wrong person and they're gonna hit the fuck out of him.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying like it's like uh or or or like hamstring injury in the beginning of the year last year after that Renny Bay game and then he had the elbow issue where it dislocated and then he re-injured the elbow again um when he was trying when he was going for a fucking rush for himself bro he just let I mean it's I mean it's just land he shouldn't have a plan though I mean it shouldn't have been no he shouldn't have because they're gonna depend on coaching and and management and shit like that and how they if they you know is he gonna be another RG3 um player that was you know number one pick coming in had a good well he wasn't number one Daniels but uh RG three was number one coming in and was he always Daniels like number three he was number two he's a but yeah um RG three having a you know really really really good rookie year uh setting a record for a completion percentage for a rookie and taking Washington playoffs somewhere they hadn't been in a while made irrelevant again and then you know he hurt his knee and then they put him in the game against fucking Seattle against the Legion of Boom in the playoffs and fucked his knee up again and he went right again after that.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: So you know Washington has got to decide if they're gonna do this the right way or they're gonna you know I mean risk it all and so sometimes you gotta just touch the quarterback.
48:43
SPEAKER_02: That's kind of fucked up bro and they were I get it sometimes because like you know they weren't risking it all off until season.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: That's a second they're like four and five at one point in time or five and four so I kind of get it because like season isn't over and it's like the player wants to play you know what I'm saying it's it's people are going to question also like why are why are you shutting down Jaden Daniels in week seven of the football season or week eight you know what I'm saying when you have eight nine games to play and Philadelphia was looking shaky all year last year Dallas didn't play good and the Giants didn't play good so if you're a fan of Washington you're looking at it like you know this is kind of our year chance to kind of even if we don't win a division we could still maybe cause some noise or whatever but the prior year before that everybody kind of knew um who was going to win the Super Bowl who at least was going to be in it in Philly and Kansas City or the way Saquon played.
49:48
SPEAKER_02: So as good as Washington played in Jaden's rookie year everybody knew that they didn't they wasn't expected to beat Detroit.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying they came in and beat Detroit and then they came in but everybody knew against Philly it was the first round by it was the first round by we weren't ready for it Jaden Daniels come out there and shocked us and our defense was also not Philly did what they were supposed to do and beat them by 20 points.
50:17
SPEAKER_01: So um I get why as you know why they're like you know what let's the Lions defense was nowhere bro it it it wasn't the same as it was the whole the whole season so we got into that playoffs and our offense still still showed out but we we had some bad I mean bro I I mean there was there was a few fourth downs that I remember that they converted that kind of killed us a little bit um yeah and I mean it was just I mean we just couldn't stop them.
50:53
SPEAKER_01: Like we were going score for score in the first half and they got a few stops on us in the third quarter and it just kind of kind of went downhill from there in the second half we just weren't we just weren't keeping up with them on scoring and it was tough.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean if we're talking about when the Lions should have made should have made a farther I mean we should have made the Super Bowl in um 22 when the fucking Niners did.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: We should have beat the Niners that year but 23 I was at 23 okay yeah I mean niners were good that year for sure um I don't know if I can confidently say that we would have beat the Chiefs but we were fucking solid that year and I would have liked to see us match up against the Chiefs at that spot so is every other Detroit fan.
51:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah for sure but it's a long time ago we did beat him first week of that season though you did but um next game we also got what is it a little night matchup between um Cowboys and the Giants so we'll see um Jackson Dart Jackson Dart and Cam Scadaboo are both active right both their turns and the league majors so potentially see um the Giants full offense with their new coach um so yeah I mean that could potentially be pretty good I'm excited to see I'm I mean I'm excited to see what the Giants could potentially do um pot I mean playing playing the Eagles just lost their uh number one receiver um one of their yeah I mean all pro receiver he's been amazing oh is it Philly yeah no he Philly didn't draft it in Tennessee Philly no New England but um won a few rings in Philly and he was definitely on ring on this one but still he got that ring bounced with Drake man lost he said fuck Jalen Hurts Jalen Hurts is a bummer everyone knows this Philadelphia come out and play good can't say that Malik neighbors when we got Jack Jackson Darden Malik neighbors never really got a ton of time to play with each other last year um I think that could be a that could be a big connection could be see how their knee responds see how if the neighbors are really ready or if they rush it a little bit we'll find out in Skype we got some players coming off injury here that uh kind of gotta watch for you know um going in to the first week but with all that being said I don't still I don't think the Giants are gonna win that game.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: They gotta stop the rally I mean Dallas is gonna beat him and I think Dallas is gonna beat him handily I'm not gonna lie to you it's that it's Dallas.
54:19
SPEAKER_02: It's not fucking Philly I'm tripping it's the Giants I think Dallas is gonna beat them by a two plus touchdown.
54:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know I mean yeah Dallas offense is really good yeah it is really good it is and the defense got a little bit better.
54:33
SPEAKER_02: So you got Javante CD um picking CD and picking first and then for yeah that offense they can hit you from multiple ways.
54:44
SPEAKER_01: Dallas shoots themselves in the foot Dallas just does Dallas shit that's why but I don't they have a uh you look at it it's usually about two three years of them missing a playoffs and then they have a year when they're second or fuck around and win a division and so if this is a year where Dallas does make the playoffs yeah they might and they but they're gonna get in there and fucking lose first round maybe maybe not I'm not gonna fuck around and win a game Dallas bro the Lions have won more playoff games since I've been watching than Dallas has.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: So Dallas winning a playoff game I have not seen that before you know what I'm saying I haven't seen the Dallas playoff game unless they gotta play against like the Rams or uh maybe Philly first round but if they gotta play against somebody that's like anybody that gets into the playoffs will be the fucking Cowboys not a chance not a chance what do you mean bro everybody through the Austin Philadelphia last time have a fucking good team bro there's not gonna be we don't know that it'll be a team like the Panthers a team like the Buccaneers and be a team like you don't know they go against the Panthers I'm taking the Cowboys over the Panthers I don't care if it's in Carolina.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: Somebody's gonna win that division over there so they could be fucking 7 and 9 or 7 and 10 and win that division it's not a good team but somebody's got a bad division that's on a different that's Jackson was an AFC I thought they were in Carolina's division.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: No they're Titans Texans Colts yeah so that's AFC South so yeah but no you I mean Jaguars they're better than anybody in that that NFC South division Carolina Saints Atlanta and Tampa Bay I'll take Jacksonville over all those teams except for maybe Tampa Bay depending on how Baker and shit plays but Jacksonville that's that's yeah that's different but Dallas can beat I'm telling they be a lot of teams they were they didn't really get blown out a lot at all last year.
57:09
SPEAKER_02: They're in a lot of games they just couldn't stop anybody so if they defense could get a little bit better then Dallas is going to be an issue do I want to win the Super Bowl no I don't say anything like that but they could find themselves in an NFC championship game.
57:28
SPEAKER_02: You know if Rams and fucking whoever got to go against each other in week two Philly Chicago Detroit whatever it is one of them teams gonna or not week two but in a division round one of those teams got to lose so Dallas could get lucky and have to play a Carolina first on the road and then go have to play a fucking Green Bay I can think I think they can beat Green Bay even Micah Parsons is there I still think this Green Bay has not played terrific in the playoffs I mean neither has Dallas so right so I'm going I'm gonna go with the better offense at that point because defense I mean Green Bay Green Bay has more playoff wins like what like what you were saying about Jay Love.
58:17
SPEAKER_02: Jay Love has more playoff wins than Dak's got more than Dak's got like three or four playoff wins Dak's been at least since 2017 I think 2016 he's been in the league for like 10 years he does he have his first three years how many bro he's won one playoffs the first been in the playoffs that many times been in the playoffs at least five times at least okay beat the Giants the last time he went to the playoffs the last time he went to the playoffs beat the Giants and lost to the 49ers who lost to the Eagles in a championship in a championship game when the Eagles lost to Kansas City the first time in 2023 2022 2023 so because Philly and oh no wait sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry what year what year I can't remember what year was that I think it might have been a year before so it might have been 2001 or 2021 2022 but Dallas the year that Daniel Jones had his really good year in the Giants for New York.
59:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah Saquon played good they made a playoffs the first time Giants made a playoffs and I don't know how long Saquon was selling the Giants yeah and that's the year that got Daniel Jones paid so that following year is when when I can't I can't fucking remember but by Indianapolis no that's when he got paid by New York and then he stunk it up sucked the next year and then the next year after that they got rid of him and then he played for Indiana.
59:58
SPEAKER_02: But the year that Saquon or the Giants last time made a playoffs they played the Cowboys in the first round and lost so that's one win for the Cowboys and then pretty sure the rookie year or first or second year for Dak they won one or two playoff games um so he has at least two or three playoff wins in this career.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_02: Just two yeah I mean that I mean Jordan Love has two no it's the same yeah two but um yeah so Dak gets him two and five did we cover the other game that we were trying to or yeah we got we got commanders and the Eagles we covered that couple of Packers Vikings and now we're just wrapping this up there was a there was a fourth one that we were trying to go I can't remember oh you're gonna talk about the Rams a little bit more in the 40 tomorrow but okay um we did cover them last week so it's that's that'd be okay but yeah so two and five record for Dak in the playoffs but um so we'll see um but I do think Dallas is is due for kind of a breakout year or a you know a year where they make the playoffs where they I wouldn't be surprised um especially looking at their schedule let me see here no I don't believe it I don't believe in Dallas sorry but Dak's good I just there's just something about him man just unlucky so it's gonna be a little tough here to start off with the Giants commanders so I mean they can start off 2-0 here or 0-2 they're not losing to the Giants they could lose to the commanders man you saying they won't lose to the Giants bro that's bro then the Ravens probably lose that then you got the Texans that's tough Cowboys Packers they can beat both of them I mean I'm sorry Buccaneers and Packers they can beat them both and you got the Eagles again Cardinals Cowboys or Cardinals 49ers Titans Eagles Seahawks so it's a little the schedule is a little tough not gonna lie they only got a couple games where it's like kind of sleepers but should win yeah but you mean playing against Seattle you gotta play the Rams you play Jaguars you gotta play Philly twice Niners like you said Colts we don't know it's dead too and then Ravens and Tekken so I mean they yeah they got tough they got tough records you know so it's gonna be hard to really judge that is it's gonna be more of a high test for them to see how they play in those games but um you know Philly got that rain on top eventually is gonna stop.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying Philly is not no they'll probably win a division again this year because they still have a lot of talent on a team but it's still got next siriani over there and they've had they've got they've had injuries on their they've got their coach they've had over their fucking they've had injuries on their side as of late they haven't really had or suffered a substantial like or major person like injury yeah right they've had Hurts they've had Saquon Saquon they've had fucking smith I mean J Brown the defense fits into their offense this year.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah that'll be big too yeah we'll we'll see if he can if he can be somebody that just gets off immediately or if he's a little bit of a dud then honestly I'm not super big on I mean I'm I before before I wasn't super big on Josh Allen or on um Jalen Hurts throwing the ball just because I didn't think that I mean he did get AJ Brown into the game enough for sure but I feel I feel like there were just some moments where he was I mean like where they just weren't like they just weren't trying to get the ball like I mean they just weren't trying to get the ball in his hands.
1:04:09
SPEAKER_01: And I mean just um he was only having two three receptions or four like just not just I mean just not I mean for AJ Brown I mean I don't know I mean just put just playing a lot more of a run game just a lot more of a passive just trying to waste more of the clock um but I don't know I mean when you only have Devontae Smith and a rookie rookie receiver your one and twos I mean that's honestly a little bit more pressure on you throwing the ball because I mean yeah you have Devontae Smith that's been your solid like a really solid number two debatably number one like I I just wouldn't put him a better receiver as AJ but I mean Jalen would throw to him damn near as much so right yeah that's true um kind of turning that number one as the season went on but I was just kind of more probably more locker room issues and just AJ Brown one and all but we'll find out a lot a lot of a lot of season unpacked this year for sure week one week first game yeah we'll be back next Tuesday to um wrap up week one uncover everything that happened in fucking week one so yeah looking looking forward to it unfortunately we won't be in the fucking sweet ass window window spot next week this was just a one time deal but hope y'all boys enjoyed the view so ladies there's nothing else