Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on depositors rushing to take advantage of high interest rates
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- 0:18Speaker 2: Say has put an extra two point one billion dollars
- 0:21Speaker 2: in term deposits in July, locking in higher interest rates
- 0:23Speaker 2: before the Reserve Bank drop the official cash right banks
- 0:26Speaker 2: now hold a record one hundred and thirty six billion
- 0:28Speaker 2: dollars in term deposits and Gennative Chrainey is The Herald's
- 0:32Speaker 2: Wellington Business editor. Hey you name hey, Heather. So do
- 0:35Speaker 2: you think that record number is as a result of
- 0:37Speaker 2: people getting in there trying to lock in those higher
- 0:39Speaker 2: deposit rates.
- 0:41Speaker 3: I think it is that term deposit number has been
- 0:44Speaker 3: tracking up, but I didn't notice that in July the
- 0:47Speaker 3: jump in term deposits was quite big. So two point
- 0:51Speaker 3: one billion dollars that's quite a bit of money, one
- 0:54Speaker 3: point six percent more than the previous month. And you know,
- 0:59Speaker 3: I note that in July that's when the Reserve Bank
- 1:01Speaker 3: released that statement where it suggested it might start cutting
- 1:05Speaker 3: interest rates sooner than August next year, which you know,
- 1:09Speaker 3: back in May was when it said it would likely
- 1:11Speaker 3: cut interest rates. So I mean, I was one of
- 1:14Speaker 3: these people, I thought on July ten, I better look
- 1:17Speaker 3: at how my money's going and maybe lock in some
- 1:20Speaker 3: high interest rates now. The thing though, that was quite
- 1:23Speaker 3: surprising looking at the July figures was that the amount
- 1:28Speaker 3: of money that people put in their transaction accounts, you know,
- 1:31Speaker 3: just their call accounts, that also went up, and that
- 1:35Speaker 3: went up by the most that it's gone up in
- 1:37Speaker 3: about two and a half years. So not only did
- 1:40Speaker 3: people put more money in term deposits, but they actually
- 1:42Speaker 3: put more money into the bank generally.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, So if it's not coming from the transaction
- 1:48Speaker 2: and the savings account balances, right, if they're not taking
- 1:51Speaker 2: it out of that here's my easy money account, where
- 1:53Speaker 2: are they getting this money from?
- 1:55Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, look that is my big question, and I've
- 1:57Speaker 3: been doing a big ring around today to ask various people.
- 2:00Speaker 3: It probably isn't higher welfare or benefit payments because those
- 2:05Speaker 3: changes are made in April. It probably isn't text changes
- 2:08Speaker 3: either because those income tax cuts that were getting they
- 2:13Speaker 3: only kicking in August. But what it could be, and
- 2:16Speaker 3: this is what wespec's former treasurer Jim Reardon said, was
- 2:21Speaker 3: that back in July term deposit rates were much more
- 2:26Speaker 3: attractive than bond yields. So he thought that if people
- 2:30Speaker 3: there were a bunch of bond maturities at that time,
- 2:32Speaker 3: so if you received money because you're the bonds you
- 2:34Speaker 3: invested and matured, you would have been much better off
- 2:37Speaker 3: putting your money in a term deposit than reinvesting it
- 2:39Speaker 3: in bonds. So he thought that the fact that the
- 2:42Speaker 3: bond yields was so much lower than the term deposit
- 2:44Speaker 3: rates at that point might have pushed more people into,
- 2:48Speaker 3: you know, not invest in bonds and put the money
- 2:50Speaker 3: in the bank. But so I think that's, you know,
- 2:53Speaker 3: quite a plausible thing. I also took to Sharon Zooner,
- 2:57Speaker 3: the chief economist at A and Z, and she thought,
- 2:59Speaker 3: you know, things were pretty tough back in July, so
- 3:01Speaker 3: people were possibly being cautious, you know, worried they might
- 3:05Speaker 3: lose their jobs, not spending too much, just popping them
- 3:08Speaker 3: money in the bank. Saving. My big question, and so
- 3:12Speaker 3: this is also Sharon's Olensborg question, is you know, there's
- 3:15Speaker 3: quite a bit of money that's sitting in the bank there,
- 3:17Speaker 3: those those balances have been rising in the high interest
- 3:20Speaker 3: rate environment. You know, how will people deploy that money?
- 3:24Speaker 3: Is interest rates full and you know, as it becomes
- 3:27Speaker 3: less appealing to keep your money in the bank.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Interesting stuff.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Well will they will they put it in the property market?
- 3:34Speaker 3: That's my question.
- 3:35Speaker 2: What do you think I'd say, no, what do you reckon?
- 3:38Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 3:38Speaker 3: I think they will, but there's quite a lot probably
- 3:41Speaker 3: holding back. I don't think the pickup will be Nah.
- 3:44Speaker 2: I think we know that. Yeah, I think we know it. Hey,
- 3:46Speaker 2: thank you. Jane has always really appreciated, you know, to Trainy.
- 3:49Speaker 2: The Heralds are Wellington business entity.
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