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We award BEST ute of 2023, Paul's Raptor is hit & run...plus Kia EV6 GT · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. He's entered the room, Australia's biggest automotive
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: heart throb. Mom's a lot ready, Oh me, you're talking
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: about me? No, no, no, no, no, come on in trave.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, one of those days.
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  Speaker 1: Think it's been an interesting day. Just been in at
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  Speaker 1: the beach today. As you can see, I'm a bit
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  Speaker 1: sun kissed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Sydney beaches are interesting, aren't they. They're like a
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  Speaker 1: There was just a group of white women drinking rose
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  Speaker 1: and it was like a Camilla Kaftan convention.
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  Speaker 2: That is the definition of an Australian beach day. White
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  Speaker 2: women drinking on the beach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you watch bond I rescue like Indian blokes
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  Speaker 2: going swimming fully clothed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, needed to be rescued.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, if you are Indian or Asian and listening to this,
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  Speaker 2: can you tell us why this happens so often? I
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  Speaker 2: think Native Australians tend to know the beach is a
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  Speaker 2: bit better and know what to do and what not
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  Speaker 2: to do. But a lot of tourists just do not
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  Speaker 2: get it. And I'm keen to understand when Australia is
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  Speaker 2: advertised overseas and people come here. Why is there a
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  Speaker 2: disconnect between going swimming and drowning?
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  Speaker 4: Like what is the let us know?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm pretty sure I can answer that question because
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  Speaker 1: generally people will come here for asylum and they're living
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  Speaker 1: in like pretty They're not living on lovely coastal metropolitan cities.
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  Speaker 4: And so this is tourists that go to Bondai. You
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  Speaker 4: don't come here to seek asylum and then go I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to go to Bondai Beach.
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  Speaker 1: Yes you do.
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  Speaker 4: You've got other stuff to.
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  Speaker 1: Do anyway, anyway you get today, What did you do today?
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  Speaker 4: I went to visit family with my daughter in our tesla. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I did yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I took the key EV six to Lang Lang to
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  Speaker 2: go do a video review and spent half the day
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  Speaker 2: destroying tires with drift mode.
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  Speaker 1: Then now you have you by the way, you didn't
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  Speaker 1: just have the key at EV six. You had you
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  Speaker 1: had the GT which was supposed to be mine, but
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  Speaker 1: mine got traded in for a Stonitch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had to pass off the Stonitch just
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  Speaker 2: someone else, and I stuck with the EV six. But
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit the whole day fanging it around and
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  Speaker 2: having fun and going home. It's about one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: five kilometers from the proving ground to home and it
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  Speaker 2: had like ninety kilometers of range and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: she'll be right, and I popped it into e co
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  Speaker 2: mode and I was in for anyone that is from Melbourne.
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  Speaker 2: Just recently, the traffic is absolutely ft. I don't know why,
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  Speaker 2: but it is just fucked And anyway, I got to
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  Speaker 2: sort of around Burke Road and from Burke Road to Kingsway,
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  Speaker 2: which is the exit I take. It was forty nine minutes,
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  Speaker 2: which normally is a ten minute drive, and I was
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  Speaker 2: down to three percent and I thought, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to make it to frantically re route to
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  Speaker 2: a charger. Made it to the charger with one percent
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  Speaker 2: of range left, plugged up, and then had some smug
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  Speaker 2: blog come up to me. He goes, oh, how long
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  Speaker 2: are you going to be? And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I literally just got here at one percent, So you
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  Speaker 2: do the maths for me and that will tell you
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  Speaker 2: how long I'm going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Just drove off. I'm like, yeah, right, oh jet, So yes,
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  Speaker 4: I charged.
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  Speaker 2: The car is heaps of fun, by the way, and
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  Speaker 2: I know that today is our youte special, but EB
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  Speaker 2: six GT is heap of fun and drift mode is
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  Speaker 2: also a heap of fun, but not as easy to
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  Speaker 2: control as most other cars with with a drift mode.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, be careful if you are driving on because
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  Speaker 2: it will snap around very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: When you get a car like that, especially an EV
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  Speaker 1: that's going zero to one hundred in crazy speeds. I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's like keys version of the plaid. How do
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  Speaker 1: you find the driving on that?
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  Speaker 4: Look?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's there's no escaping its weight and it sits
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  Speaker 2: on a three meter wheelbase. They've done a lot of
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  Speaker 2: work to the suspension tune, so Ossie engineers went to
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  Speaker 2: Germany during the initial tuning phase of EV six and
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  Speaker 2: then they did finalization of the tuning here in Australia
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  Speaker 2: and all the validation. So from a ride and handling
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  Speaker 2: point of view, it's really good, but ultimately it is
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  Speaker 2: dynamically limited by.
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  Speaker 4: The physics of it. So it is incredibly quick.
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  Speaker 2: One thing that I absolutely loved and kind of nerded
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  Speaker 2: out on, and there was a top secret car I
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  Speaker 2: drove a couple of weeks ago in Sweden that is
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  Speaker 2: very similar to this and they were running me through
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  Speaker 2: the technicalities behind the brake pedal. In a typical car,
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  Speaker 2: when you operate the brake pedal, you're eventually pushing a
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  Speaker 2: cylinder inside a brake chamber that pushes fluid around to
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  Speaker 2: the brakes. In the EV six and this other mysterious
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  Speaker 2: car that I drove actually use a brake by wire system,
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  Speaker 2: so you're not actually really physically doing anything, You're telling
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  Speaker 2: a computer to do something. And the big advantage of
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  Speaker 2: that in an EV is that if you are driving
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  Speaker 2: it dynamically and you hit a bump into a braking zone,
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  Speaker 2: instead of getting the modulation in break pedal fiel, which
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  Speaker 2: is what you get in things like teslas, which have
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  Speaker 2: a mechanical breaking system, you actually get a very linear
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  Speaker 2: brake pedal and that's regardless of whether regen's coming in
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  Speaker 2: and out with bumps into a braking zone. And that
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  Speaker 2: tech is really cool. It can do up to three
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  Speaker 2: hundred kilos of regen as well, so it will regen
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  Speaker 2: as hard as it possibly can before it gets into
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  Speaker 2: an abs.
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  Speaker 4: Zone, so it is yeah, it is really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Beneath the skin how much work they've done to this,
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, when you put it in drift mode, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think I'll just just cough on that microphone.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus at a bit of reflex going on. Did you
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  Speaker 1: have a big big bowl of borsch or something before
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  Speaker 1: you started this?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, when you put it into drift mode, it
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  Speaker 2: seems pretty much all the talk to the rear and
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  Speaker 2: it lets you do big old drifts as well.
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  Speaker 3: So it is.
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  Speaker 4: It is a really fun car.
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  Speaker 1: I've only had the Baby, I've only had the EV
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  Speaker 1: six and you know on it, Yeah, you know how
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  Speaker 1: much I love the EV six too, Like, that's just
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  Speaker 1: it's really well fitted out. What did you think when
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  Speaker 1: you look at a car like that compared to a
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  Speaker 1: Tesla which is very minimalistic and they.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't have one issue?
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  Speaker 2: Oh the seat is manually adjustable in the GT. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's one hundred grand and I went to go adjusted
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, hold on, we're the fuck are these controls?
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  Speaker 2: And then it's like a manual seat. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: you're going back in time. I just find that really strange.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why they did that, because I mean they've
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  Speaker 1: spent so much, they've spent so much time and so
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  Speaker 1: much engineering in this, and they're like we didn't hand
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  Speaker 1: our homework. In time, we'll just kind of get rid
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  Speaker 1: of those seats.
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  Speaker 4: We'll save thirty eight dollars and not make them electric.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's exactly it, you know, Like I think someone
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  Speaker 1: who's going to buy something like this is going to
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  Speaker 1: appreciate fucking proper seats.
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  Speaker 2: But in this day and age, it's not like it's
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  Speaker 2: a nine to eleven that you might just drive on
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  Speaker 2: your own and your other half will never drive. This
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  Speaker 2: is a family car, so you every time your other
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  Speaker 2: half gets in, you're going to be in a position
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  Speaker 2: where you have to manually move the seats. And most
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  Speaker 2: cars on the market these days will have keys that
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  Speaker 2: remember settings and stuff, whereas this it's all just manually adjustable.
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  Speaker 2: And I just find it so completely bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: It's an odd choice. And everything else is pretty much
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  Speaker 1: there too, right or anything's pretty standard to the normal
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  Speaker 1: EV six as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it is. It is interesting. So I
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  Speaker 2: am looking forward to seeing what the I five N
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  Speaker 2: is like. They're still working on that, and that has
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, that seems to be something perhaps a
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  Speaker 2: bit bigger so in terms of the performance aspects.
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  Speaker 4: So we can't just se how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one. I love what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: with the end you know what they could have done,
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  Speaker 1: I reckon. I would have loved to have seen a
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  Speaker 1: Tucson and I.
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  Speaker 4: Reckon they might do that eventually.
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  Speaker 2: The issue that they've got with then, especially in SUVs,
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  Speaker 2: if they're going to sell them in Europe, it has
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  Speaker 2: to be electrified because they have that upcoming band, so
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  Speaker 2: it means that all the end products will have to
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  Speaker 2: have some kind of electrification. And at the moment they
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  Speaker 2: have a mild hybrid in the Tuson, so it really
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  Speaker 2: needs perhaps an electric motor on the rear axle or
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  Speaker 2: something a bit more advanced. And I think that will
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  Speaker 2: come eventually. But there's not really much really that's sporty
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  Speaker 2: and you know that sort of stuff. So we'll watch
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  Speaker 2: this space.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Coopers are kind of doing nice things, but nothing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and like an end to someone would have been really cool,
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  Speaker 1: like almost put put a Stinger engine in that thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they had to be mental.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's like I actually found out the other day,
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  Speaker 2: much to my sadness, remember the Hyundai Australia division actually
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  Speaker 2: did an end version of the Imax or eye Load
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  Speaker 2: where they basically isn't that a theater? Yes, and it's
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  Speaker 2: also a giant van from Yunda. It was the previous
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  Speaker 2: jen of that and they put I think it was
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  Speaker 2: the twin Turbo V six from the Genesis or even
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  Speaker 2: the Stinger under the bonnet and turned it into a
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  Speaker 2: real well drive drift bus. And I found out the
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  Speaker 2: other day that it's now being crushed.
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  Speaker 1: Oh why did they do that? Because that was that's right,
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  Speaker 1: that was going on tour with like the the n
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  Speaker 1: Festival or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, so now it's it's dead. So I was
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  Speaker 4: very sad to hear that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh they crushed that thing. Yeah. I was speaking to
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  Speaker 1: Young Day and they donate like a lot of their
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  Speaker 1: cars to universities and stuff like that. Yeah, such a
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  Speaker 1: fucking shame. I'm like, why why would you do that.
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  Speaker 1: Don't give it to some couple of knobs at Sunshine
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  Speaker 1: Tafe who will probably just take it out on the
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  Speaker 1: weekend and smoke bongs in the back of it. Give
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: it to me, Give it to me. Actually, they do
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  Speaker 1: that a lot with their hydrogen fleet as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just have to be careful with how you
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  Speaker 4: crush that.
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  Speaker 2: I guess Imagine that the suburb of Sydney has now
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: been has disappeared after a hydrogen bomb explosion.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: The suburb of EMU Planes is now non existent, is
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: now just planes? Then Usually it just gets up and
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: starts clapping. Why just shout out to our good friends
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  Speaker 1: in planes. You've never been there, have you?
• 9:45
  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: It sounds fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of a bit like Lang Lang, but just
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  Speaker 1: less rights tracks, more bogans.
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  Speaker 4: Hello to our listeners from EMEU Planes as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to you guys. What else is going on?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Can I show you something? I'm ho think you can
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  Speaker 1: hear this. By the way, Paul's back on Zoom. This
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: is just gonna be a quick little Zoom episode just
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: to tie you over, and the next few episodes will
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: be we'll be back in the studio together, hugging it
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: out with Trevor. We're getting the band back together. This
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: is what AI is doing right now, and there's a
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff coming in the AI world. People
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: are freaked out. My brother in law owns a I
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: don't want to say too much, but it's basically and
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: it's it's a company that works with AI. And basically
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: you can now write in stuff for you know AI
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: to say they've literally mimicked the voices of high profile
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: celebrities using AI. Yeah, using AI, much like it myself.
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: But but the.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: This is the president. So you've got Barack Obama, you've
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: got Joe Biden, and you've got Donald Trump, and they're
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: all playing forzer right, so so good headset stuff and everything.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: A little sound effects is amazing.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: Hey, bro, how are you doing? You want to hop
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: on Forza? Yeah?
• 11:07
  Speaker 5: Sure, let me hop on right now. I was just
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: fighting the ender Dragon with Joe. But Bro, he is
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: so bad. I mean, frankly, it's unbelievable. He wasted all
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: my enchanted arrows and missed its.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I want to race in Forza. Donnie and
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: I were just hell hop on.
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  Speaker 5: Barack, you cannot let this guy play with us. He
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  Speaker 5: is horrible. He's too old for this.
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 5: The only car he can name is a Corvette.
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: That's not true, Donald, I know what a Ferrari is.
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, let's all pick our cars for this race are
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: called dibbs on the Supra. I love the super I
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: mean it's so fast, it's just unbelievable. I hope you
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: guys are ready to.
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: Lose, Donnie, I will be laughing when you lose to
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: my Bugatti. I mean it is really the pinnacle of motorsport.
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: It's so sleek and elegant and fast and holds the world.
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, Barrock, we hear you.
• 11:47
  Speaker 5: Shut up, man, Bugatti doesn't have a two jay Z engine.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: Two jay Z is so overrated. Come on, are you
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: twelve years old? No, I'm eighty six.
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to race a cage desk thirteen with
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: an LS swamp and a straight Joe. You're gonna melt
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: all the ice cap with those emissions.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Donald, shut up and raised me, your twelve
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: year old super fan. You probably don't even have your
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: driver's license yet.
• 12:06
  Speaker 5: You don't need a driver's license to play four US.
• 12:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, wow, you are so stupid.
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: Is absolute goal.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: That's so good, is it?
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Girl?
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: It's amazing?
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: How you know that's not real? Though? Yeah? I know,
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: Joe Biden was coherent.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: That was the well, that's exactly it. He really put
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: a sentence together there, and I was like, wow, there's
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: your first fucking that is I love that. Even the
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: pop culture to jay Z LS swaps.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: That is brilliant, So they used something like chat GPT
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: to come up with a script for that and then
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: an AI to talk it out.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like doubled over, like
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: it could literally just be for instance, in the radio world,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: let's go behind the scene, let's go behind the curtain, guys,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: or the glitz and glamour. You can basically get a
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: voice over now and it's not actually a voiceover, so
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: you can type in a script and they can say whatever,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: really yeah, yeah, yeah, so we can we we run
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: voiceovers that aren't actually real people.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Really is there an example of one would be I
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: don't know products or is it just for upcoming shows?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it'll be, well, it'll be it'll be segments. Generally,
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  Speaker 1: if you the more you get out of an AI voiceover,
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: or the more you get them to say in one sentence, yep,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the easy the easier it is to
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: kind of spot because you kind of miss inclinations, you
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: miss like yeah, tones and but it's very subtle. But
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: also producers will kind of cover that quite easily, like
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: they'll add a they could add like a sound effect
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: between where a comma would be, or they could add
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: a little another voiceover saying huge praises, you know, just
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: something really quick to kind of break it up, and
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: it might be just like interesting. Yeah, it might just
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: be like the Kyle and Jackie Oh show Home with
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  Speaker 1: the World's Biggest Stars, and then but between that they
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: might fucking you know, tweak around with Yeah, it's completely fake.
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  Speaker 4: That is so interesting. Me go, so is File Sandalands
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  Speaker 4: actually real?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well funny you should say that, because I did. I
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: did a break the other day and I got I
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: went into what's it called chat GPT GPT, yeah, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: I said, there's an artist we play called the Weekend. Right,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't know who he is.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know who, but yeah, but.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: I said, as the artist the Weekend, write a short
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: paragraph on why you love ed Sheeran, right, and then
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: so it wrote this short sentence and then I copied
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: that into the an AI Voice generator as the Weekend.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: So it's got this guy's this guy's voice. Hey, as
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the you know, as a recording artist, I think Ed
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Sheeran is the best.
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  Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, oh my god, that is so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy, it's crazy. What it's you know, we can even
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: get there's there's a there's AI coming out. We don't
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: We're out already. That can go through this entire podcast
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: and say we're say we're doing four hour long podcasts. Yeah,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: and say we were just like a couple of blokes,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: you know, talking about I don't know, truck trucks, right,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: so we're just spending four hours going you know, like,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: oh bloody yeah, then yeah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: I met Bloody Spoon and cracking down at Burke a
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: couple of hours out to kick a can around and
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: bloody down the road from Terra Baga pardon he picked
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: up a bloody gray woman call it Dinna anyway.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: So basically we could do a whole podcast. My point
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: is we could do a whole podcast this AI can
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: go through it and we'll write down point by point
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: like what we've covered.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: That is very cool.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Look, we we have Hoyd around with it for content
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: because we actually a year or two ago we had
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: the idea that we'd love to have an author on
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: our site that was all AI in the news section
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: for a year and then say to people, hey, for
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the last year, that author has been AI.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: But at the time they're all pretty not very good,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and even now when you look at it.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: It just lacks, like you said, some of the nuance
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: and some of the detail that you would have if
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: you were genuinely an expert in that topic. So yeah,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I think this fretting and worry about AI taking over, it's.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Probably not there just yet. It's pretty cool.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I love what they've been able to do with it,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: and that force of stuff is pretty cool. But I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: think longer term, you know, you're safe if you're in
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: radio for.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Example, Yeah, or journalism for that matter. Yeah, for now,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: for now, it's only a matter of time. Actually, my
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: brother in law, who owns an AI company, I don't
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: know if I'm.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Very perplexed at why it's so Secretly me.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: This video the other day and he goes, check out
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: this this newsreader and check out these news stories. She's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: just camera testing. I want to know what you think. Okay,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: played me a two minute clip of this lady sort
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of reading the news and stuff like that, and I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: was like, she was all right, yeah, it's fine. I
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: don't know what do you want me to pinpoint? And
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he goes, she doesn't exist, that person does not exist,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Like what, So it's literally gotten to the point where
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's not even a deep fake. However, I mean that
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: stuff can now now be done. Say you were the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: founder of a website and you were wanting to address
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: your people daily with some sort of morning whip, right,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: you could you could literally not be there. It could
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: be a camera video of you just being well today,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: we're doing whatever it is you do in the morning. Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: but it's completely it's complete. Bs, it's complete, it's all fake.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Well there you go. Well this has been your history
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: lesson in Ai actually real. No.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I always thought it was weird that a human could
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: look like you, and you know, people not find it strange,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: but now it makes.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Sense, especially with such a big penis. It's actually fake.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, big yeah. It just depends on your interpretation.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Are big?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I call it little pavlais. Anywayutes, before we talk about it,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: your little ute test, I wanted to talk about I'm
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: going to see if I can. I wanted to talk
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: about your impressions of the Ferrari Purer, stop interrupting, pure
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: than Kiev. Wait wait wait, wait, wait, don't don't correct,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: don't try and jump over me. Wait racist the Ferrari
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Margareta wait wait wait hang on no, no, no, I'm
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: only king around here the Ferrari.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: For those of you you that have no idea what
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: god he's talking about, I think he's mentioning the Ferrari
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: puro sungwere oh so sad that one more time pure
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Sungware pure somewhere.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: No, no, not pure Sandwich, puro Sungway Sandwich.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, this thing looks unreal, so how it Yeah, my
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: friend elbows and colleague went over to Italy for the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: launch of this, and he said, it sounds incredible. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: it's got a naturally aspirated V twelve petrol V twelve.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: It looks pretty good as well. Apparently the interior has
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a bit underwhelming, which is to be expected, but it
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: just looks and sounds amazing and I love that. You know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Ferrari said they would never do an suv, but you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: here we are and they've sold out.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: For like four years or something.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's it's it has been absolutely crazy, And to me,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it seems this has had more hype than the Lamborghini Urus.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Urus is kind of just a platform share with you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: five other cars and Volkswagen group, whereas this feels like
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: a bit of a bit more of a unique product.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I love the fact that they
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: said they'll never do it and then when they did
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: do it, they got it so right.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I just think that they have just
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: nailed it. So I am keen to have a bit
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of a drive when it arrives in Australia to see
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: what it's like. But yeah, I reckon they're on a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: winner with this, and it gives them a lot of
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: scope in the future. They're working a lot of electrification
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff, and if they establish
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: themselves as the premium fast suv player. I mean it
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: feels like they've already murdered the Aston Martin DBX without
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: even sort of doing much. So yeah, I think it's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind the interior actually, I was sort of
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised people found it underwhelming, but I mean, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: guess they were expecting something as surprising as much as
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the exterior and performance of the car was.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think it's I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Ferrari.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: It's an interesting brand. It's actually a bit like Rolls.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: You can't buy a limited or new Ferrari unless you've
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: owned other shitter Ferraris, so like for you to get
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I've already lost track of which ones they sell, but
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: whatever the four eight eight replacement is, you need to
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: kind of have a history with them. And for a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: vehicle like this, where it's so limited, they will be
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: going to people that have already had an extensive history
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: of Ferraris, and for you to actually get a limited
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: edition Ferrari, there is like an unspoken rule about what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: you need to have owned previously. Lamba, on the other hand,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: is more a case of just you know, who's got
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: cash on the day can come and get a Ferrari drama.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You're some sort of an influencer, or wrap up by
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a Lamborghini. What about you pricing this ad?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Some?
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Did I hear?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Somewhere around a million dollars?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Is it really up there?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Let me have a look. I actually don't know.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I think Australia was Yeah, there we go seven hundred
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and twenty eight thousand.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And yet sold out for four years?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Did you say, yeah? Just insane to think that someone
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: just seven hundred thousand.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think you'll be buying one anytime soon.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: If you're a little if your little locker behind your
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: stolen from Sunshine Tafe is anything to go by with
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: my Wooly's bag. Wuld you call that the billy?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: But billy, that's it, the Billy.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: We're not really going to do a car review this week.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I mean I haven't really driven anything that set the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: world on fire.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I did have the G eight EV, which was like, yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. It's complicated,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: it looks nice. It was that fetching green with the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: sort of chestnut leather interior.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's still looks nice, but.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's nice. It's still looking at about god, how
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: much was that? I think it was north of one
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: forty Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is compromised because all of the battery equipment
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: they've put in. It raises the height of the floor
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and it's impossible to sit in the back with your toes,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and then in the front you sit really high as well.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: It's just a really awkward car to sit in.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I love smooth Carter, heavy and smooth, Like wow.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I did like that they fit the solar panels to
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: the roof. I thought that was pretty cool.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a gimmicky. I would much rather
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a sun roof.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Please, well, like, what's it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Going to do? Like, honestly, you would get in that lifetime,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you'd get half Like if you banked all that up,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you'd get maybe a what a full charge in eleven years.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more to condition the car and run the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: cooling systems and stuff like that. But it sounds like
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it's not good enough for.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Some not good enough for me. No, no, no, give
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: me mych donic. Please give me mystnic. By the way,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: we found the best ute of the year. Jayes, you
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: wasted a lot of time. I could have told you
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: this before you started it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: So let me preface this by saying this is Australia's
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and perhaps even the world's most comprehensive ute test and
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it was quite satisfying when we we published the winner
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: of our ute test and another website, Please.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Do not men, no, do not get us in any
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: more trouble. I run out of money for the month
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and I cannot pay another fucking lawyer. Okay.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: On the website also ran a ute test that was
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: significantly undercooked in comparison, and in the comments section.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Of the video, Let's said that they leave the ute
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: testing to correct but I'm well, hey, it's obviously wasn't.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Who was a knob from last week Dave melb forty six, Yeah,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: who called us morons?
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: And you an idiot or something only I disagree with
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: at least.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Where's the lie.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: On the back?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Dave Melbourne original.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Day, Dave, you're a massive dickhead, but no offense. Thanks
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: for pointing out the obvious shit.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Ed But anyway, so yeah, we went into our ute test.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: We did this late last year and it was an
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: eight day ute test, so it took a lot of work.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Thirteen people involved. We had one guy who won a
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: competition on our website, James young bloke, and then we
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: had three other blow ins who also helped out. They
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: got to stay at incredible accommodation. You should see the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: caravan park and anglesy that we used.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: It was it was.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I was just about to say that, knowing you, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: would have put these guys up in some spider filled
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: bloody caravan park with old Donna Theres with a just
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: really old flappy friggin polo shirt. Not a polo more
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of a more of a like a really sort of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: best and lass Pavlai Come under me Moomir.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: She did try and chuck a leg over one of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the guys, but we sort of put an end to
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that pretty quickly. But this you test, So we did
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: half of it at lang Lang and then the other
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: half at another proving ground and Anglesey and we really
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: put them through the ring of Anglesy was all about
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: off road driving where we had three main tests. One
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: was a roller test where we test attraction controls. We
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: had an offset mogul as well, which was there to
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: test four will drive systems. And then there's forty five
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: forty five percent grade that was bloody steep and uneven
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that was testing low range and also differential locks. Then
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: at lang Lang we did a range of testing. We
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: did drag race. We also did a towing test where
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: we actually use some pretty awesome equipment from Holden's old
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: development days. So we used a trailer Dyne, which is
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: basically a sixteen hundred kilo trailer, and inside the trailer
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: it actually has the rear DIF assembly of an old commodore,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: but that DIF assembly is attached to a retarda that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: can add up to ten killing mutants of load to
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the trailer, so it simulates the vehicle driving up a
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: very steep hill with a fully loaded trailer, and using
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: that we're able to benchmark the cars against each other
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: with a trailer dine setting at three killing Newtonts. We
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: also used a hill road with a b get a
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: sort of caravan style trailer to test what they were like.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: The hill road was interesting because there was a grade there.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I think it was a fifteen percent grade. This thing
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: was bloody steep and with a twenty five hundred kilo trailer,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: it was flat to the board in some of these
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: utes and they were only just gaining speed And I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: find that slightly alarming because some of the utes are
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: rated up to thirty five hundred kilos. We were a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: ton short of that, and you know, you just think
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to yourself, some of these utes you just wouldn't dream
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of toweling three and a half tons, And that was
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: with one person in the car. Imagine loading the family
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: in and getting it up to payload and GVM. So yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's pretty pretty interesting. And the final test that
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: we did was a dino test to see how efficient
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: these drive lines were. So yeah, before we get to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the main winner, our off road test, who do you
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: think won.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: That ooh off road and I haven't seen these results.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: By the way, thank you for supporting us.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I don't listen to your radio show either.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you listen to me? What did your podcast
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: once in a while?
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: An idiot?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. The Izuzu.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: No, my actually did quite poorly because of the traction
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: control being shit house. It was actually the Jeep Gladiator. Yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: rear dif flock, front diff lock, disconnecting sway bars, like
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: it is a proper, proper off road vehicle, and that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it looks.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Cool too, just honestly looks like a fucking gi joker, Like, yeah, exactly, like.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: You could flee an impending apocalypse in that thing, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I actually loved a Few years ago, I went to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Seema and they had one that had had an Hellcat
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: engine swap, so they took out the sort of asthmatic,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: naturally aspirated V six petrol engine and just dropped in
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a supercharged V eight, And I'm like, that would be
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: extremely dangerous to drive.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: But I love it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I've got a whole bunch of utes coming up that
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: we're going to be reviewing. I'm going to make sure
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: that's at the top of the least, I want to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like get that earlier, get that on the show earlier
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: than we had planned, because yeah, I saw that. I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it on Friday again and I was like, fuck, it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a long car, like it's a bit huge long car,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and you know, just just weird things I sort of noticed.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And maybe this is because you know, having trade like
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: my dad being a trading and stuff. You look at
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a ude and one of the first things I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: about is, you know how you're going to lock the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: back up and stuff. That thing just has like a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: canvas kind of cloth rolled up.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Well it's even Betty. You can take the roof, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: doors and the windscreen off. Yeah, so you can actually
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: drive this thing around with no roof and doors and
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the windscreen folded down. It is like it's a pretty
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: unreal package. Like this is unlike anything else out there.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I think. I think it is a really cool setup.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: By the way, that's not on the road, by the way,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that's off froud. You can do that, right, you can't, sure,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you can't legal you.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You just throw shit at people next to year fucker
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that wouldn't throw a banana at them, And then over
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: on on our towing test RAM fifteen.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: It took that out.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: That thing is unreal, like it was towing without even
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: recognizing there was a load on the rear that naturally aspirated.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: V eight is a beast.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: It's got a hybrid system in it as well, so
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: it's not overly inefficient. One of the tests we actually
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: did with the trailer, Dine was trying to break through
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: one hundred k's an hour with it, because it got
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: progressively harder as the car picked up speed. This thing
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: just ripped through it like it wasn't even attached to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the back of it. And compare that to the Nevara.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: The Navara took twenty nine seconds to get to ninety
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: k's an hour and couldn't get to one hundred. The
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Ram got to one hundred in like six seconds or
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: seven seconds, like.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: It was so so fast.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Actually, you love this. I nearly I should have taken
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a photo of it. I saw Zuzuki jimney. Maybe this
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: isn't mind blowing to you. It was to me, But
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I saw a Zuzuki jimney towing a caravan.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Oh that's dumb and dangerous.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: It was quite a small sort of a caravan, but
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I was still and you know, it was a new
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: modern fiberglass looking thing.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, God, I wouldn't tell anything with the jymney, stupid.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, hang on is that because it was
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: sort of parked and I thought, is that attached to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the to the jymney? Generally when you park, you know,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you hoisted up on the on the wheel and stuff
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like that. Holy shit, it's still there, like it's still on.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You should have got a photo because unless it's turbocharged
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: or something, maybe it's modified in some way, who knows,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: But that's not a great idea.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a weirdesting idea.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: We actually broke a raptor. So this is the very
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: frustrating thing. This happened in end of November last year.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: They had to swap out the Raptor because it started
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: developing a drive line wine and I've been chasing them
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: for an explanation on why it's happened, and they're.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Being a little bit cagu with it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to push them a little harder because
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: at this stage it's starting to irritate me and I
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: think we're going to end up doing a separate story
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: on that, because yeah, we did a lot of dynamic
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: testing with the Raptor, and then after the towing test,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it started making some funny noises from the differential and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: we called them up and said, hey, there's like a
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: wine and a rattle coming from the div can you
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: come and replace this thing? So they replaced it before
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: we were finished doing the toe testing. So yeah, maybe
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: in a future episode I'll update everyone on what happened
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: with that, because not good.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a lot.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I had.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: There were a few problems with the Raptor. Yours is
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: going fine, though, I mean you you just drive it
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to the milk bar, show off, show off a little
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: PAVL and get back in.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to just very quickly jump to one
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: side here and just talk about this. I'm going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: call him a fuck knuckle who ran into the back
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: of my Okay, I'm going to call him a fucker.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: No, I think you got it at fuck knuckle. That's fine.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: By the way, we've stopped censoring the show by my request.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So Dave Melb Yeah, so yeah, he I'm waiting at
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: this intersection and he just I could see he was
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: about to hit me, and he just ran into the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: back of me and shunted my car forward, and I'm like,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: fuck is this guy doing?
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: And I look up in my mirror and him and
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: his dipshit friend were in there going, oh you know
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: what happened?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I pulled out from this intersection. I turned left
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and stop, and he turns right and leaves, and I'm like,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: no fucking way, you're getting away from me. So I
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: fortunately there was this giant curve with like a median
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: strip on it. I drove straight over that and followed him.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I knew the area well, so I went down a
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: side street and he popped out in front of me,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and I chased him at the speed limit and caught
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: up to him. And he got out of the carr
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and shit himself because he thought he got away from me.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, I was a little bit upset,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: but I said, you just no, no, no.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: No, no no no.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You got out of that car and you chase this
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: guy down in hot pursuit, Paul. We need some like
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: hot pursuit music. There's Paul. He's going on hot Pursuit.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Jumps out of the car and you said, and.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I said, you just hit my car or something to
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: that effect, and he goes on anti climax.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: No you didn't, you swore at him.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Tell me what you really said. I don't want to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: say that. Anyway, He goes, I didn't know I hit you.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you you shunted.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: My car forward.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Your car's ab would have been going off because it
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: was a new car as well. And I took a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: photo of the front of his car back of mine.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: He gets his license out, and he tried to cover up,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: like with his finger when I took a photo, and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: thankfully my phone took a live photo, so I got
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the shot with his name and stuff just before he
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: covered it up.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this guy is so frigging dodgy.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So anyway, thankfully I got insurance to get it all
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: fixed and he's up for the cost and yeah, but anyway,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: so back to our ut test.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, but doesn't that irritate you, because really
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: it's just it pisces.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Me off to knowing because it's a brand new car
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: and this idiot just isn't watching and then runs into
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the back of it, and I totally get accidents happened,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: even if I thought I may have hit them.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: And the thing is he was driving a six five
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and where he hit me, you would see your bonnet
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: is under my car, like it went under the bumper bar,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: so you wouldn't You would know that you hit it,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: even if you thought you may not have, and you
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: saw that I pulled over, surely you would pull over
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: as well. I'm sorry, you know, you know I thought
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I made whatever, but then to try and get away
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: from me, and clearly try and get away from me
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: to then have me catch up to you. And I
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: could see when I when I caught up to him
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that it was a bit shock that I was there. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I did just really shit me up the wall.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: So and also, is it weird driving around in your
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: brand new raptor just knowing that it's just kind of
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: been a bit dicked around.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: With Jerry has been popped. Yes, I'm going to all
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: that forever.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Test and then drag race. We ended up drag racing
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: all the cars head to head, wrapped to one that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: But then we pulled out a TRX RAM fifteen hundred
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: TIERERX and did that drag race rappor just loss to that.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: On our Dino test, Toytter Highlucks had the most efficient engine,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: so we basically measured flywheel versus power at the wheels
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: so Highlucks won that by only something like eighteen percent
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: drivetrain loss between the flywheel and the wheels, which is excellent.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Some of the utes with the bigger tires had something
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: like thirty or forty percent drive line loss, which is enormous,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: but that comes down two big tires sort of being inefficient.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: That gets us to our overall winner.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, and if you do want to check out some
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: of these tests, head to car expert dot com today.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: You have got stacks of video content there as well.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Our overall winner, unsurprisingly is the Ford Ranger and that
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: is just both all variants four cylinder V six Rapptor.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so congratulations to Ford for taking that test out.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I love that. I said to you, of fair, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: said which particular Ford Ranger in the portfolio one, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you just went all of them, all of them won.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Its just easier, No, it's just easier to say to someone, Look,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: if you're going to buy you in the segment, the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Ranger is the one you want to get.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: My pick would probably be the V six diesel.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Because that did really well for towing, for the drag race,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: for engine efficiency, like it was a really good all rounder. Ye,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: but if you did have to settle for a four
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: cylinder that was fine and did just as good, you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: with just slightly less punch than the V six.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: When I got to drive the wild Track, I fell
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: in love with that car instantly. I thought it was
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, I tried to put an order in
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and just like I was hoping the would kind of
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: have no idea who you were. Yeah, No, it wasn't
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: even that. It was more just like, mate, do everything legit.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: But I was kind of in my heart of hearts
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: thinking they'd speed things up a little bit. After a
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: little bit, it was like it's going to be in October,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: and I just went I pulled out. But it's such
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: as it's yeah, I know, the story of my life.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: It's an exceptional car. Like it's just it's the absolute
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: sweet spot in that whole range. Like the Sport's pretty
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: good to me is fucking on steroids and pointless and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: you know, unless you want to try and compensate for
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: little Pavlois. But yeah, the wild Track is a car
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you can just jump in and you just automatically feel
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like you could go from one end of Australia to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the other comfortably the tech and it's great.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you as well. I was shocked
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: at how bad the Raptor wasn't stopping from one hundred.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: We measured it for each of the utes and the
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: best was I think either the Ram or the Highlux.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: The Raptor took almost ten meters longer to stop because
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: of the tires, is a huge, huge amount of extra
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: stopping distance.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: So that wasn't fantastic.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Where did the RAM lose out? Because I feel like
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: that ticked a lot of boxes.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Look, the RAM lost out during towing. It was a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: little inefficient, it was off road. A lot of the
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: stuff was optional, so you had to option limited slip, differential,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: rear diff lock.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: There was no hill descend control.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's just a lot of the stuff really
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: should have been standard was optional, so it just lost
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: out a little bit here and there. But yeah, the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Ram is really a really fine dual cab and you
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: can see why they're so popular in the States and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: as much as people want to hate them here in Australia,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: you know they really are just an all round it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: What do you make it?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: The everest, because you'd think it's going to be a
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: similar car. Like by similar standards, you'd go, well, you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: as an SUV goes, surely that would live up to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the performance of say a Ranger. But it really to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: me there's something missing about it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Look, I like the Everest in V six trim. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: would like to see them do a Raptor version of it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, look, I like the Everest. I think it's
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: a good good SUV, especially if you do want to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: go off road. If you don't want to go off road,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I just wouldn't be buying any of that stuff unless
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: you're towing and going off road because it is a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: big SUV that is unnecessarily big if you're not using
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: it for any of those tools.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not great. Really like it myself,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: but by comparison, if you kind of go the Rangers,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: like the best UT in Australia, this is similar in
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Would this be the best SUV?
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: No?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, it won't be the best SUV simply
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: because they're all different. But it's the best SUV and
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: it's segment, and if you look at it segment, there's
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: not really a great deal of inspiring things happening there.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: But that'll all change when Prato gets a new engine.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I suspect they'll drop a V six in Prato and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: just give it a bit of love and that'll really
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: shake things up a little bit for that segment.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: So congratulations to.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Ford, Congratulations to Forward. Didn't you pick well? Yeah, yep, yep,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I picked really well, didn't you What a coincidence?
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: No, it's actually funny.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: A lot of people did ask us if it was
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: sponsored by Ford and all that sort of stuff. But
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the perfect irony is that, I think I've said this
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: before that when it comes to advertising clients with our website,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I've actually spent more money with four than they've spent
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: with me with us, which is quite funny.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that that theory goes straight out the window.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So we're going to be finally in the same studio
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: next next episode, so please look out for that. I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: have a little surprise browing away for you. By the way,
• 41:17
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• 41:24
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• 41:28
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• 41:32
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• 41:33
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• 42:00
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• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Oh by the way, just again, earlier I mentioned the
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• 42:07
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• 42:14
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• 42:29
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• 42:36
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• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Just going through the d MS. Hey, big shout out too.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I won't say her real name, but her
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: handle is big shout out to missus prestige cars. She said,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: big fan of the show. Love this, she loved the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: stoning chat and zippy economical ha ha ha. Can I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: join the team? Sounds like you need a couple of girls,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: too much testosterone, and I said, agreed, see what I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: can do. Although Paul has a lovely sheeness.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm just concerned about a woman being near you,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: like in a room.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I've cleared that with my parole office.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: So we're good now. Someone said, as a text to
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: go trev Is on ACA, and I just wrote, is
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: he's stealing Telly's again?
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Dealing Telly's again?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We've got to follow up from Michael, who contacted us
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: a while back. You remember with the dealer delivery feast.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Oh that guy?
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Sorry, oh yeah, that guy.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: So I'll just quickly read it out.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: It's a longish email, he wrote, I picked up my
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Genesis GV seventy Diesel Sport.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: And Luxury pack plus Matt Paint.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Wait sorry, chat GPT, can you summarize Michael's long, pointless,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: boring email into one sentence?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Still?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Can't do it?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: So he said, I picked up my GV seventy Diesel
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Sport luxury pack plus Matte paint Melbourne gray with red
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Sevilla interior. Around three weeks ago, he said, I stand corrected.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: The dealer delivery fee was three thousand dollars during the
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: eleven month waiting period. Wow, there was a rise of
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: around three grand annoying, but I wasn't prepared to join
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: another waiting list, so.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Stuck with it. It's a bit shit that they've passed
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: that on to him.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I don't love that, and I was only given a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: verbal price after phoning up Genesis when I got wind
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: of it. I did not receive the new invoice till
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a few days prior to picking it up, which showed
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the breakdowns.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Disappointing.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: So regarding my delivery experience for the three K, Genesis
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: was able to deliver my car anywhere as part of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the dealer delivery fee, but I chose to collect it
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: myself at Paramatta, only leave one and a half hours away,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and wanted the full customer experience. Also like to check
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the defects before taking delivery.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Good idea, he wrote.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Upon entering the showroom there was a congratulations sign with
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: my name on it and the car concealed under a cover.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Nice yeah, three grand.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: It was hard waiting for the big reveal as I'd
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: never seen a GV seventy in the flesh before, and
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I chose to rely on reviews from experts such as yourself,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: referring to Paul here Champ just what.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: He said, Champ, No that was you're just chucking that
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: in okay, thanks, thanks Tiger.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Consumer Reports and looking for potentially she's reported on car
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: owner forums. So the salesman spent well over an hour
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: talking him through the features. He got a gift of
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: a Genesis branded water bottle, traveling coffee container and key ring,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: a gift basket of edible items. So he said he
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: was impressive the Deally delivery experience, but still can't see
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: why the dealer delivery fees so high even with stuff
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: happening in the back end. I don't see so yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: The email goes on to say he's happy with the car,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: so yeah. And also he then mentioned right at the
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: end off topic. Now, but in your last podcast you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: raised as to whether there is an issue in buying
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Chinese cars. Google the Sky News article how Australian data
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: hovering cha hoovering. I think Chinese made cars should be
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: secretly sending their private data to the communist nation.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I think I actually helped them with that story.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Companies in China need to have a relationship with the
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: CCP and a whole bunch of stuff there.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, we're just getting a message come through
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: from Peter Jackson. He just wants to make that email
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: into a three part series. By the way, one of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the dms we got was from John He said we
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: didn't answer the second half of his question, which was
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: do you think whether we think ice cars will depreciate
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: quicker with the update of EV's and fans, etc.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I think maybe one day it will, but I actually
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: think the opposite because the issue they still have with
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: EV's and we're seeing this now on the secondhand Tesla market,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: they're depreciating very quickly now that there's a stack of
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: stock available. You don't want to be buying a secondhand
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: EV with the battery of unknown capacity left like it's
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: especially if it's not completely discounted. And we spoke last
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: week about the depreciation of Polestar and other sort of
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: EV brands in terms of their guaranteed financial future plans
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: whatever they're called.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I think that, yes, ice cars will continue depreciating obviously
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: once EV's sort of hit their stride, But I think
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: that EV's have their own problems at the moment.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're a long way off from
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: that too. Even the basic things like EV's are still
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: bloody expensive, especially in this country. The foundations aren't really
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: up to scratch where they should be at this point
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: stock wise as well. And also, actually, did you this
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: is an interesting one, did you say, Marcus Brownley Markez, Yeah, yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: and he said that there was. Tesla had opened their
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: charging to pretty much everyone.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: So they've opened part of their charging network as a
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: trial to any ev.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Look, it's great news for Eve owners because.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Typically Tesla's charging network is excellent and functional. The downside
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: is that it means that if you do own a Tesla,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: that whole uniqueness of having access to a working charger
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: will slowly evaporate when it is busy, and we've seen
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: that over the holidays and stuff.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it look good for Tesla's shareholders, but I
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: think it's a bad thing for Tesla's customers. Not a fan, No, well,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: why would you want it?
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Like it's great if you don't own a Tesla and
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: it's great for those manufacturers because they can go develop
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: an EV and just not bother with the charging network
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: and just leave it all to Tesla.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting spot to be in when you are
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: kind of relying on Tesla to put in these superchargers
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: in because they're what they're putting in is quality. It's excellent.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: It works.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it works, and which is good. The text stuff is,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: like you've said before, if something sucks up on it,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: it's generally quickly fixed. Compared to say charge Fox that
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: is just an absolute nightmare. Yeah, it's a spot to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: be and when you're kind of going, well, I'm going
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to get an EV, but I'll just have to rely
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: on Tesla charging.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know, we'll see Paul started crying.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Jesus by the way, Paul's this isn't this is just
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: going to be an audio only episode unfortunately, because Paul
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't even realize he's not even talking to a microphone.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: It's actually a big black dildo of some description microscope
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: that is not a microphone, mate, it's.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: A Yetti USB blue blue YETI it's literally a prosthetic fixed.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you all for listening. Please leave us a rating.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I think the campaign for getting Trevor to
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: host is slightly building momentum.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Slowly, go fuck yourself,