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Concerned Clergy Podcast August 5, 2026 · Concerned Clergy Podcast

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SPEAKER_1: Well, we invite you to catch the replay.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, what's the replay?
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SPEAKER_1: The replay is our Substack,
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SPEAKER_1: the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis Substack,
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SPEAKER_1: Once again, on Thursday, you can catch it in its entirety on our Substack.
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SPEAKER_1: And that is the Progressive Indiana Network.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm Tony Alexander.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm glad to be with you on tonight.
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SPEAKER_1: On tonight,
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SPEAKER_1: we are going to be discussing an officer-involved shooting that happened
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SPEAKER_1: a couple weeks ago in which the community is still looking for answers,
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SPEAKER_1: the family's still looking for answers in what happened in
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SPEAKER_1: the incident regarding Dalys Jett,
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SPEAKER_1: who once again,
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SPEAKER_1: who succumbed to his injuries, once again, due to an officer-involved shooting.
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SPEAKER_1: And we're going to have a representative from the family.
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SPEAKER_1: Tonight, we're going to have Pastor Davanta Scruggs.
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SPEAKER_1: He's going to come on tonight.
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SPEAKER_1: He's going to share here's where the family is.
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SPEAKER_1: Here's what the family is receiving as far as communication from IMPD.
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SPEAKER_1: Here's also what the family would like as far as communication,
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SPEAKER_1: what they would like to happen,
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SPEAKER_1: what it is that they're not getting and what it is that they would like to get more of.
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SPEAKER_1: And we invite you to be part of that conversation and you can call into the radio station.
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SPEAKER_1: The phone number is 317-480-1310.
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SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
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SPEAKER_1: And you can even comment.
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SPEAKER_1: You can comment on our Facebook page, the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis.
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SPEAKER_1: Let us pray.
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SPEAKER_1: Father God, Lord, we thank you for this day, Lord.
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SPEAKER_1: We pray in the name of Jesus, Lord,
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SPEAKER_1: for this family, Lord, that has lost their loved one and is still seeking answers.
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SPEAKER_1: Lord, we pray for our community, Lord.
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SPEAKER_1: We pray that law enforcement and everything that we're dealing with in regards
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SPEAKER_1: to safety,
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SPEAKER_1: security,
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SPEAKER_1: public safety,
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SPEAKER_1: Father God, Lord,
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SPEAKER_1: that we can do it in a way in which community can trust law enforcement
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SPEAKER_1: and law enforcement can trust community.
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SPEAKER_1: Let us come together on tonight, Lord, as we seek
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SPEAKER_1: answers and we seek truth.
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SPEAKER_1: We ask for your leadership, your guidance.
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SPEAKER_1: Bless our listening audience on tonight.
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SPEAKER_1: In Jesus' name,
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SPEAKER_1: I pray.
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SPEAKER_1: Amen.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, I'm Reverend Tony Alexander.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm glad to be with you on tonight.
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SPEAKER_1: And once again,
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SPEAKER_1: on tonight,
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SPEAKER_1: we're going to be speaking about the situation that happened on July 22nd,
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SPEAKER_1: in which we had a 21-year-old Dalys Jett who lost his life.
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SPEAKER_1: And it was due to an officer-involved shooting in which that happened,
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SPEAKER_1: a couple of officers were actually injured as well.
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SPEAKER_1: We're thankful that they're still here, but we have a family.
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SPEAKER_1: We have a family that is mourning the loss of their loved one,
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SPEAKER_1: and that is Brother Dalys, and we're going to be talking about that on tonight.
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SPEAKER_1: Before we bring our guest on,
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SPEAKER_1: I want to at least,
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SPEAKER_1: we're going to kind
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SPEAKER_1: of set the stage on some reporting that we are aware of
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SPEAKER_1: in regards to this incident.
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SPEAKER_1: And then once again,
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SPEAKER_1: if you want to be part of the conversation,
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SPEAKER_1: you can call into the radio station and that number is 317-480-1310.
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SPEAKER_1: And we want to say good evening to Brother Gerrelian, who is with us on Facebook.
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SPEAKER_1: But let's go ahead and we'll highlight some of the reporting,
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SPEAKER_1: the most recent reporting that we have, at least in regards to this situation.
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SPEAKER_2: [WTHR Channel 13 report] Laid their request to view the body cam video.
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SPEAKER_2: This comes after now we've learned that the second injured officer was released from
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SPEAKER_2: the hospital after receiving care.
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SPEAKER_2: That discharge was on Monday.
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SPEAKER_2: Ashton Hackman now explains tonight why the family says seeing that video is
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SPEAKER_2: so critical to them.
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SPEAKER_2: Two weeks after he was killed in an alleged shootout with police,
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SPEAKER_2: the family of 21-year-old Dalys Jett says they're still waiting for answers.
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SPEAKER_2: It happened July 22nd near 38th and Franklin.
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SPEAKER_2: Police say Jett fired at officers as they responded to a disturbance call.
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SPEAKER_2: Two officers were shot, one by accidental friendly fire from a fellow officer.
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SPEAKER_3: We're not trying to sort out the facts.
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SPEAKER_3: As we've seen, those are shifting depending on what update IMPD provides.
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SPEAKER_2: Family says they were told they could view the video after
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SPEAKER_2: the second injured officer was released from the hospital.
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SPEAKER_2: That officer went home Monday, but family says they're still waiting.
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SPEAKER_3: Chief Terry has made it clear that the family is within their legal right to see it.
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SPEAKER_3: We don't need to see it next week.
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SPEAKER_3: We need to see it this week and we need to see it as soon as possible.
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SPEAKER_2: In a statement,
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SPEAKER_2: IMPD said they are committed to transparency and intends to respond to
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SPEAKER_2: the family's request and share the footage with Mr.
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SPEAKER_2: Jett's family, required under state law.
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SPEAKER_2: Adding the delay is to protect the integrity of the investigative process and out
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SPEAKER_2: of respect for everyone involved.
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SPEAKER_2: Jett's family says seeing the video would help provide answers.
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SPEAKER_3: To delay that any further,
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SPEAKER_3: the lack of transparency becomes how people start to perceive what is happening.
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SPEAKER_3: We want to be clear about what happened.
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SPEAKER_3: We don't want Dalys to be remembered for whatever it is that people's narrative
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SPEAKER_3: of him is shaping.
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SPEAKER_3: We want to state our facts about who Dalys is.
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SPEAKER_2: In Indianapolis, Ashton Hackman, 13 News.
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SPEAKER_1: All right.
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SPEAKER_1: So there you go.
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SPEAKER_1: You just heard reporting from WTHR here in Indianapolis.
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SPEAKER_1: And on behalf of the family,
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SPEAKER_1: you heard there,
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SPEAKER_1: Pastor Davanta Scruggs,
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SPEAKER_1: who was sharing what the family's desires and wishes are in regards
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SPEAKER_1: to this incident.
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SPEAKER_1: And we're glad to have Pastor Scruggs with us.
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SPEAKER_1: Good evening.
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SPEAKER_1: How are you?
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SPEAKER_3: Good evening, Reverend Alexander.
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SPEAKER_3: Well, it's certainly a privilege to be with you.
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SPEAKER_3: Unfortunately, under these circumstances, we're certainly praying for the family.
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SPEAKER_3: We're hoping that the family is able not just to find justice
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SPEAKER_3: in this particular case,
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SPEAKER_3: but you know,
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SPEAKER_3: to also find peace,
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SPEAKER_3: you know, as they're trying to grieve, you know, the loss of a loved one as well.
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SPEAKER_3: So we don't,
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SPEAKER_3: you know,
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SPEAKER_3: take that lightly,
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SPEAKER_3: that there's a family that,
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SPEAKER_3: you know,
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SPEAKER_3: as holidays come up,
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SPEAKER_3: birthdays come up,
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SPEAKER_3: and other celebrations come up, that there's going to be empty chairs.
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SPEAKER_3: So we certainly,
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SPEAKER_3: on behalf of the Concerned Clergy,
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SPEAKER_3: want to extend our condolences and our heartfelt grief as well with the family.
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SPEAKER_1: But as we just listened to the reporting,
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SPEAKER_1: Pastor Scruggs, we've heard that there were some officers that were injured.
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SPEAKER_1: We also,
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SPEAKER_1: of course,
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SPEAKER_1: know that the family has lost a loved one, but we have some unanswered questions.
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SPEAKER_1: And I'm going to kind of,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: just kind of toss it over to you to kind of tell us as we stand
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SPEAKER_1: on this evening right now at 7:08,
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SPEAKER_1: where is the family now as far as their understanding on when they will be able
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SPEAKER_1: to either review body-worn camera footage or getting more answers from
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SPEAKER_1: the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department?
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SPEAKER_3: Well, first, I just want to say thank you for welcoming me onto the call.
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SPEAKER_3: Our family has endured a devastating tragedy.
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SPEAKER_3: When we look at where we are right now, the family doesn't have any answers.
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SPEAKER_3: We are still awaiting for a confirmation as to when the body cam footage will be shown.
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SPEAKER_3: And so we've been left in the dark this whole time.
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SPEAKER_3: And I dare not go into the facts of the case as we are not sure about these facts.
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SPEAKER_3: And that's why we're looking to see the body cam footage
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SPEAKER_3: to see exactly what happened and so that the family can move forward.
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SPEAKER_1: If you'd like to be part of the conversation, feel free to call into the radio station.
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SPEAKER_1: The number is 317-480-1310,
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SPEAKER_1: or you can also comment on our Facebook page, the Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis.
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SPEAKER_1: Now, Pastor Scruggs,
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SPEAKER_1: let's kind of back up a little bit and just make sure,
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SPEAKER_1: matter of fact,
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SPEAKER_1: even for myself,
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SPEAKER_1: you're not just representing the family, but you are part of the family.
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SPEAKER_1: Is that correct?
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SPEAKER_3: Correct.
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SPEAKER_3: Dalys was my little cousin.
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SPEAKER_3: His father is my uncle.
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SPEAKER_3: And to see this transpire has truly broken our hearts.
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SPEAKER_3: And we're truly at a loss for words as to what to do and what to say since
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SPEAKER_3: his death.
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SPEAKER_1: And let's as...
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SPEAKER_1: If we can kind of even, you know, back up a little bit just for our listening audience.
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SPEAKER_1: So this incident happened on July 22nd.
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SPEAKER_1: Initial, I'll say reports or even statements that came from IMPD were reported.
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SPEAKER_1: That Dalys fired at IMPD police officers.
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SPEAKER_1: And then in return,
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SPEAKER_1: that's why we had an officer-involved shooting in which Dalys was struck and
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SPEAKER_1: then succumbed to his injuries.
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SPEAKER_1: But in addition to that, we had police officers that were also struck.
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SPEAKER_1: And one of the,
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SPEAKER_1: I'll say when we go back to initial reports,
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SPEAKER_1: one of the first things we saw was,
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SPEAKER_1: I think,
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SPEAKER_1: Pastor Scruggs,
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SPEAKER_1: some ring doorbell footage in which you saw a lot of officers,
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SPEAKER_1: I'll say three to four, if I can recall, surrounding Dalys.
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SPEAKER_1: And then hearing that he did something,
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SPEAKER_1: but not being able to actually see that in the ring doorbell camera footage,
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SPEAKER_1: whether or not he pulled out a weapon, had a weapon or any of that.
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SPEAKER_1: And then there were statements that were made that said that he definitely fired a weapon.
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SPEAKER_1: But subsequently, it seems to be that there's been some backing off of that.
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SPEAKER_1: One has been because one of the injured IMPD officers had been in the hospital
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SPEAKER_1: and they were not able to provide statements in regards to what happened.
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SPEAKER_1: But also, IMPD has come out and said, we...
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SPEAKER_1: can definitively say now that we know that one of these officers at least was struck
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SPEAKER_1: by friendly fire, if you will, or from another officer's weapon.
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SPEAKER_1: What has been communicated to the family in that regard as far as what you can
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SPEAKER_1: at least say, here's what we know right now.
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SPEAKER_1: What happened from an officer's handgun versus what happened from
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SPEAKER_1: a potential someone else's handgun?
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SPEAKER_3: Yeah, Reverend Alexander, again, we are not clear about what has happened.
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SPEAKER_3: IMPD has given reports about several different accounts, has taken back those accounts.
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SPEAKER_3: And said how things have changed over the course of the investigation.
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SPEAKER_3: And so we're not able to really speak on the facts of the case.
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SPEAKER_3: And that's why we are continuing to call for IMPD to release the body cam footage
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SPEAKER_3: as soon as possible.
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SPEAKER_3: The fact that the officer needs to review all of the body cam footage,
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SPEAKER_3: giving a statement,
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SPEAKER_3: and then the family being allowed to view the body cam footage,
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SPEAKER_3: as when Chief Terry said that that is not a part of any state law or local law,
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SPEAKER_3: that is simply IMPD's policy and procedure.
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SPEAKER_3: And so we've just been requesting via social media
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SPEAKER_3: through contact
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SPEAKER_3: that IMPD has made that they release that body cam footage
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SPEAKER_3: and it has been postponed.
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SPEAKER_3: And now a date has not been set as to when IMPD will be releasing that.
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SPEAKER_1: So let's kind of go back again because there was a meeting that was scheduled with
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SPEAKER_1: the family to review the body cam footage and that was scheduled for last Friday,
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SPEAKER_1: July 31st.
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SPEAKER_1: So here we are.
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SPEAKER_3: Last Thursday.
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SPEAKER_1: Oh, Thursday.
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SPEAKER_1: Okay.
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SPEAKER_1: So it was last Thursday on the 30th.
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SPEAKER_1: So now here we are,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: almost a week later,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, we are a week later because tomorrow will be another Thursday.
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SPEAKER_1: And the family was told that they would at least be able to see
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SPEAKER_1: the body cam footage,
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SPEAKER_1: the raw body cam footage,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: before even the community was able to,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, get the narrative that, you know, is put together for the community.
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SPEAKER_1: But that was delayed.
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SPEAKER_1: And you just mentioned that part of the reason for that delay was because
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SPEAKER_1: the officer that was injured was still in the hospital and that officer needed
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SPEAKER_1: to review that same footage and provide a statement.
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SPEAKER_1: Wasn't that known that that officer was injured before the meeting was even set?
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SPEAKER_3: That is my understanding, yes.
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SPEAKER_1: So we knew we had an injured officer.
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SPEAKER_1: We knew we had an officer that had not seen the footage.
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SPEAKER_1: We knew that the officer had not made a statement,
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SPEAKER_1: but yet we set
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SPEAKER_1: a date for the family in which they're expecting a date.
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SPEAKER_1: And I'll start right there because that right there is something simple.
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SPEAKER_1: That's something simple that if you're communicating with a family
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SPEAKER_1: in this particular community -- you know --
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SPEAKER_1: type of incident, you can at least say, well, we know we have an injured officer.
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SPEAKER_1: Here is our protocol.
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SPEAKER_1: And Pastor Scruggs said that, okay,
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SPEAKER_1: it's not state law,
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SPEAKER_1: but what it is,
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SPEAKER_1: is here's just part of the procedure for IMPD that they would like to,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: make sure that officers see the footage and have an opportunity to even make
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SPEAKER_1: a statement based on the footage.
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SPEAKER_1: You know, we can, you know, go back and forth on that, whether or not we agree with that or not.
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SPEAKER_1: However,
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SPEAKER_1: I'm not going to do that tonight because what I want to just say is communicate that
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SPEAKER_1: to the family.
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SPEAKER_1: Regardless of what it is, let the family know that so they're not expecting on Tuesday,
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SPEAKER_1: we're getting ready on Thursday,
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SPEAKER_1: we're going to have this meeting and then being told the last minute,
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SPEAKER_1: well, no, we're not going to have a meeting and here's why.
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SPEAKER_1: How did that make the family feel?
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SPEAKER_3: The family is really in a space where we're asking questions and we're trying
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SPEAKER_3: to have those questions answered and we are needing closure
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SPEAKER_3: about what has transpired on the night of July 22nd.
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SPEAKER_3: And we're hoping that IMPD will do the right thing by releasing the body cam footage
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SPEAKER_3: as soon as possible so that we can start to form an understanding
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SPEAKER_3: of what transpired.
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SPEAKER_3: It is frustrating to say the least that a mother and a father is going to have
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SPEAKER_3: to bury their 21-year-old son and look at their 4-year-old grandson come Saturday.
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SPEAKER_3: And it's a possibility if IMPD has not shown the body cam footage by then
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SPEAKER_3: that they would have to close the casket of their son,
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SPEAKER_3: bury him, and not have any answers to what has transpired.
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SPEAKER_3: And so it is heartbreaking.
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SPEAKER_3: It is frustrating.
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SPEAKER_3: And that's why we continue to tell IMPD,
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SPEAKER_3: Chief Terry,
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SPEAKER_3: Deputy Chief Kendall Adams,
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SPEAKER_3: just release the body cam footage so that the family can see what transpired
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SPEAKER_3: that night and begin to move forward.
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SPEAKER_1: Help me understand something because even understanding that, okay,
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SPEAKER_1: there was a meeting scheduled with the family for the raw body-worn camera footage.
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SPEAKER_1: Then that meeting was postponed.
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SPEAKER_1: Help us understand at least from
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SPEAKER_1: what was communicated to the family.
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SPEAKER_1: Was there anything other than the fact that the officer
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SPEAKER_1: that was injured had not seen the body-worn camera footage?
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SPEAKER_1: Was there anything else there that was shared with the family for reasons why not
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SPEAKER_1: to see that footage?
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SPEAKER_3: That that officer had not seen all of the footage and has not given a statement as
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SPEAKER_3: to what transpired that night.
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SPEAKER_1: And the family even agreed,
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SPEAKER_1: my understanding at least from what I've seen reported,
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SPEAKER_1: was that the family agreed that we were not going to make any public statements
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SPEAKER_1: until IMPD was ready to make those public statements.
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SPEAKER_3: Correct.
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SPEAKER_1: Can you speak to that piece?
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SPEAKER_3: Yes.
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SPEAKER_3: You know,
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SPEAKER_3: we shared with Chief Terry that,
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SPEAKER_3: hey, you know, if you're able to share with us the body cam footage.
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SPEAKER_3: This was Friday when we had that conversation -- that we would hold off
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SPEAKER_3: on making any statements if they were able to share that body cam footage to us
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SPEAKER_3: by today.
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SPEAKER_3: And Chief Terry was unequivocally clear that they were not going to show the body cam footage
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SPEAKER_3: until after the officer has seen it and given her statement.
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SPEAKER_3: We don't know when she's going to give her statement.
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SPEAKER_3: We weren't clear when she would get out of the hospital,
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SPEAKER_3: nor were we contacted and shared that information.
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SPEAKER_3: We learned that in the media just like everyone else.
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SPEAKER_1: So our understanding is that the officer in question,
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SPEAKER_1: and I don't have her name here in front of me, has been released from the hospital.
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SPEAKER_1: I think that was the last reporting is that that officer has been released
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SPEAKER_1: and hopefully is at home recovering.
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SPEAKER_1: And we want to see that.
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SPEAKER_1: We want to see a speedy recovery, as a matter of fact.
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SPEAKER_1: But we also want to make sure this family is getting some speedy answers as well.
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SPEAKER_1: So even in the communication that the family is getting with regards to,
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SPEAKER_1: okay, the officer has to make a statement.
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SPEAKER_1: Is there a timeline that the officer has to make a statement?
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SPEAKER_1: Is there anything there that you've been given?
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SPEAKER_1: Okay, here's some other,
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SPEAKER_1: I'll say internal,
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SPEAKER_1: I'll say policies and procedures that we may have within IMPD
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SPEAKER_1: that will delay this any longer.
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SPEAKER_3: I can't speak to that.
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SPEAKER_3: I'm not sure as to when the officer is going to give the statement,
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SPEAKER_3: the timeline that they have to make their statement.
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SPEAKER_3: I don't even want to speculate as to when that is transpiring,
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SPEAKER_3: but it is to our understanding that that statement hasn't been made.
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SPEAKER_3: So we're still waiting to see the body cam footage.
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SPEAKER_3: And from my understanding,
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SPEAKER_3: that is delayed because the officer needs to review it and the officer needs to make
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SPEAKER_3: a statement.
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SPEAKER_3: We're not sure when that's going to happen.
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SPEAKER_3: But we're hoping that we will be able to see this
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SPEAKER_3: footage before Saturday.
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SPEAKER_3: So that the family can come to some type of closure and to move forward.
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SPEAKER_1: We're certainly going to talk about that because it's going to be a celebration of life.
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SPEAKER_1: It's coming Saturday and we want you to share a little bit more about that.
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SPEAKER_1: But before we do that, we do have to go to a commercial break.
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SPEAKER_1: If you'd like to be part of the conversation,
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SPEAKER_1: you have a question or comment here for Pastor Scruggs,
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SPEAKER_1: you can call into the radio station.
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SPEAKER_1: The phone number is 317-480-1310.
23:33
SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
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SPEAKER_1: But we're getting ready to go to our commercial break.
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SPEAKER_1: And once again,
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SPEAKER_1: once we come back,
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SPEAKER_1: we'll share some of the details in regards to the celebration of life and what
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SPEAKER_1: the family is doing in remembrance of Brother Dalys.
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SPEAKER_1: Let's go to our commercial break.
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SPEAKER_1: When we come back, we'll continue our conversation.
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SPEAKER_1: You're listening to the Concerned
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SPEAKER_1: Clergy Radio
23:58
SPEAKER_1: Show
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SPEAKER_1: on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station.
24:09
SPEAKER_1: Welcome back to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm Reverend Tony Alexander, and I'm glad to be
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SPEAKER_1: joined on this evening.
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SPEAKER_1: With Pastor Davanta Scruggs, and he's one of the family members
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SPEAKER_1: and representing also the family for Dalys Jett who was a victim,
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SPEAKER_1: if you will, from an officer-involved shooting on July 22nd.
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SPEAKER_1: We've been sharing what the family would like to see as far as communication
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SPEAKER_1: from IMPD, what has been communicated thus far.
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SPEAKER_1: Also,
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SPEAKER_1: there's going to be a celebration of life that's going to be on this coming Saturday
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SPEAKER_1: as well.
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SPEAKER_1: If you could, go ahead and speak to that piece, Pastor Scruggs.
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SPEAKER_1: Share with the community how they can support this family in the celebration of life.
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SPEAKER_3: So there are two ways to support the family this weekend with your attendance and prayers.
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SPEAKER_3: On Friday evening at the Hovey Street Church of Christ,
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SPEAKER_3: we will be holding a press conference at 5 p.m.
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SPEAKER_3: with a prayer vigil starting at 6 p.m.
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SPEAKER_3: We will give the community the opportunity to come and share
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SPEAKER_3: their memories of Dalys, their concerns with the city and IMPD as to what has transpired.
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SPEAKER_3: We'll hear from Dalys's mother and Dalys's father at the press conference on Friday.
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SPEAKER_3: And we're also,
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SPEAKER_3: we'll have there,
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SPEAKER_3: they were working with Live Free Indy,
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SPEAKER_3: the Black Church Coalition,
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SPEAKER_3: and the
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SPEAKER_3: Party for Socialism and Liberation,
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SPEAKER_3: PSL, will also be partnering with us, organizing Friday's events.
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SPEAKER_3: And then Saturday morning,
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SPEAKER_3: we will have a viewing from 9 a.m.
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SPEAKER_3: to 12 p.m.
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SPEAKER_3: at New Direction Church at their Triumph Center with the celebration of life being
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SPEAKER_3: at 12 p.m.
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SPEAKER_1: And we certainly want to be walking with that family in prayer and love as
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SPEAKER_1: the upcoming days are coming in which they have to lay their family member to rest
26:57
SPEAKER_1: and remember.
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SPEAKER_1: Now, if you'd like to be part of the conversation,
27:03
SPEAKER_1: feel free to call into the radio station, the number, 317-480-1310.
27:08
SPEAKER_1: You can also comment on our Facebook page, Concerned Clergy of Indianapolis.
27:12
SPEAKER_1: But let's kind of go back to that particular night.
27:16
SPEAKER_1: My understanding,
27:18
SPEAKER_1: and feel free to either fill in some gaps, holes,
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SPEAKER_1: or correct anything I may say,
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SPEAKER_1: my understanding is that there was an incident in which Brother Dalys had
27:29
SPEAKER_1: to go back and he was looking for his wallet,
27:32
SPEAKER_1: you know, with the mother, if I recall correctly, of his child.
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SPEAKER_1: He was just going back for that.
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SPEAKER_1: Something happened in which, okay, law enforcement was called.
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SPEAKER_1: And then after that, you know, that's where it's, okay, did he even really have a weapon?
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SPEAKER_1: If he had a weapon, did he actually pull out the weapon?
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SPEAKER_1: If he actually pulled out the weapon, did he point it in any direction?
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SPEAKER_1: I've heard some different, I'll say commentary on exactly from some of the witnesses.
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SPEAKER_1: What can you share that the family at least understands right now as
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SPEAKER_1: to exactly what happened in that regards?
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SPEAKER_3: We have no clear understanding as to what has happened.
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SPEAKER_3: And that's why we have called on the community, clergy,
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SPEAKER_3: organizations to stand with us, to call on IMPD to release the body cam footage.
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SPEAKER_3: So that we can start to answer some of those questions.
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SPEAKER_3: We're not sure as to the events that have occurred.
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SPEAKER_3: There are so many people on
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SPEAKER_3: Facebook who are commenting
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SPEAKER_3: and sharing different things based off of their perspective.
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SPEAKER_3: And the family does not want to share a particular perspective.
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SPEAKER_3: We just want to know the facts.
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SPEAKER_3: And that's why we are really asking for people to pick up the phone,
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SPEAKER_3: to call your council members,
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SPEAKER_3: to call IMPD and tell them to release the body footage.
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SPEAKER_3: And I think that if we keep that message clear,
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SPEAKER_3: then the questions that you're asking tonight,
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SPEAKER_3: we can have a better understanding and answer those questions.
29:38
SPEAKER_3: But as to what IMPD has reported,
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SPEAKER_3: their narrative or the chain of events have changed.
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SPEAKER_3: They said that Dalys shot.
29:53
SPEAKER_3: Now they're saying that based on our latest statement,
29:57
SPEAKER_3: now they're saying that they can't definitively say that Dalys fired a gun
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SPEAKER_3: that allegedly they're saying was in his possession.
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SPEAKER_3: And so the fact that they accused him of shooting two officers,
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SPEAKER_3: and now we find out that an officer has shot another officer.
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SPEAKER_3: We don't know what happened.
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SPEAKER_3: And that is why we're trying to come to some understanding and really pressing
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SPEAKER_3: on Chief Terry to
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SPEAKER_3: release this body cam footage because it's unclear to everyone
30:42
SPEAKER_3: and everybody is asking the same question.
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SPEAKER_3: Just as you're asking me tonight, what do you think would happen?
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SPEAKER_3: We're trying to figure out what actually happened.
30:53
SPEAKER_3: So then we're not going based off our emotions.
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SPEAKER_3: We're not going based off of what we think, but we're going based off of the facts.
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SPEAKER_3: That is shown to us.
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SPEAKER_3: And at this very moment, at 7:33 p.m., we have no facts.
31:08
SPEAKER_3: We have not seen anything.
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SPEAKER_3: And we can't really say what happened because we don't know what happened.
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SPEAKER_1: So the family of Dalys Jett, they're asking, you know, for answers.
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SPEAKER_1: And they're asking for those answers from
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SPEAKER_1: IMPD, regardless of where it points to,
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SPEAKER_1: what the outcome is, we just want to know the truth is what this family is saying.
31:35
SPEAKER_1: And I think it is important because in a lot of cases,
31:39
SPEAKER_1: your initial report is kind of what people are left with, if you will.
31:44
SPEAKER_1: And in this particular case,
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SPEAKER_1: initial reports were that,
31:47
SPEAKER_1: okay, Dalys fired, he struck, you know, a couple of officers.
31:52
SPEAKER_1: And then, you know, it was even communicated from IMPD with community members.
31:58
SPEAKER_1: Well, we're not sure who fired it, but we do believe that it came from his weapon.
32:06
SPEAKER_1: And I think that is even a cause for concern because we're saying,
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SPEAKER_1: well, it may have come from his weapon.
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SPEAKER_1: However, we're not sure that he actually is the one that fired it.
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SPEAKER_1: That's kind of what my understanding is.
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SPEAKER_1: Is that kind of the family's understanding as well?
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SPEAKER_3: I think that based on what IMPD has shared,
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SPEAKER_3: that is the facts that they shared as of now.
32:39
SPEAKER_3: And so again, we're not clear as to what has transpired.
32:45
SPEAKER_3: And that's why we need them to be transparent.
32:48
SPEAKER_3: And I think that learning about one officer shooting another officer also raises
32:56
SPEAKER_3: a lot of concerns.
32:59
SPEAKER_3: And now seeking transparency -- and that being postponed and delayed -- raises major concerns.
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SPEAKER_3: And so we're really calling on IMPD to do the right thing.
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SPEAKER_3: To show the body cam footage and so that the family can move forward.
33:22
SPEAKER_3: And we're going to continue to stand by that.
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SPEAKER_3: And we're going to continue to advocate and make noise and to apply public pressure
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SPEAKER_3: with our community members and leaders to come alongside us to demand IMPD
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SPEAKER_3: to release that body cam footage.
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SPEAKER_3: And we're asking that, and we're telling IMPD that we need that by this Friday.
33:52
SPEAKER_3: And so until we're clear and have seen the video about the accounts of the events,
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SPEAKER_3: we really cannot speak to any details of the case because we simply don't know.
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SPEAKER_1: So you just mentioned that there has been a request that you get something
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SPEAKER_1: by this coming Friday.
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SPEAKER_1: Has there been any response to that request?
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SPEAKER_3: There has not been a response to it as of yet.
34:21
SPEAKER_1: Okay.
34:23
SPEAKER_1: Well, that's where we're at.
34:24
SPEAKER_1: Once again,
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SPEAKER_1: we want to support this family of Dalys Jett whose life has been shortened due
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SPEAKER_1: to this incident,
34:36
SPEAKER_1: while we certainly don't want to come to any conclusions as to what happened,
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SPEAKER_1: we do want to have some answers to what happened.
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SPEAKER_1: And that's more importantly for the family that is preparing for the celebration
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SPEAKER_1: of life, once again, for Brother Dalys.
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SPEAKER_1: It's going to be this coming weekend.
34:58
SPEAKER_1: And I'm going to ask you,
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SPEAKER_1: if you would, go ahead and share that information before we let you go, Pastor.
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SPEAKER_3: Yeah, so again,
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SPEAKER_3: on Friday,
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SPEAKER_3: August the 7th,
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SPEAKER_3: at the Hovey Street Church of Christ,
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SPEAKER_3: we will have the press conference at 5 p.m.,
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SPEAKER_3: and we'll also have the prayer vigil,
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SPEAKER_3: candle vigil at 6 p.m.
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SPEAKER_3: where the community can come out and share their memories of Dalys and
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SPEAKER_3: then also share their concerns about this body cam footage not being released.
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SPEAKER_3: And then we will have the celebration of life
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SPEAKER_3: on Saturday,
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SPEAKER_3: August the 8th,
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SPEAKER_3: with the viewing being from 9 a.m.
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SPEAKER_3: to 12 p.m. and the celebration of life being at 12 p.m. at New Direction Church,
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SPEAKER_3: Triumph Center, 5330 East 38th Street here in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, we certainly want to continue to pray for this family, touch and agree with this family.
36:03
SPEAKER_1: We're thankful to hear that the officers are at least going to be able to recover,
36:09
SPEAKER_1: but we still have a family that is looking for answers,
36:12
SPEAKER_1: and we want to make sure that they're getting answers and they're getting truth.
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SPEAKER_1: So Pastor Scruggs,
36:18
SPEAKER_1: thank you for all that you're doing,
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SPEAKER_1: praying for you and your family as you're part of the family.
36:26
SPEAKER_1: And anything you need from us, know that we'll continue to be there to help however we can.
36:36
SPEAKER_3: If anything that can be done in the immediate,
36:40
SPEAKER_3: it would be that you all who are listening,
36:43
SPEAKER_3: if you have a social media platform,
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that you would go on your social media platform and that you would just stand with
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the family and say,
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SPEAKER_3: IMPD, release the body cam footage of the killing of Dalys Jett.
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SPEAKER_3: If you can stand with us and just press IMPD to do that,
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SPEAKER_3: and then also coming out this weekend to the celebration of life
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SPEAKER_3: to support this family and to stand with this family,
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SPEAKER_3: that would mean more than the world to us.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, we'll certainly do that.
37:22
SPEAKER_1: God bless you, Pastor.
37:23
SPEAKER_1: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_1: We'll continue to pray for you and your family.
37:27
SPEAKER_1: Thanks for joining us on tonight.
37:29
SPEAKER_1: And then we'll stand in solidarity with you
37:33
SPEAKER_1: and the Jett family.
37:35
SPEAKER_1: All right.
37:35
SPEAKER_1: We got to go to our last commercial break of the hour.
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SPEAKER_1: When we come back, we'll talk some other issues.
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SPEAKER_1: We hope you can be part of the conversation.
37:44
SPEAKER_1: You can do that by calling into the radio station.
37:47
SPEAKER_1: That phone number is 317-480-1310.
37:48
SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
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38:03
SPEAKER_1: You're listening to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show
38:05
SPEAKER_1: on Praise AM 1310, 95.1 FM, Indy's Inspiration Station.
38:16
SPEAKER_1: Welcome back to the Concerned Clergy Radio Show.
38:20
SPEAKER_1: I'm Rev.
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SPEAKER_1: Tony Alexander.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm glad to be with you on this evening.
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SPEAKER_1: If you would like to be part of the conversation,
38:27
SPEAKER_1: you can call into the radio station, 317-480-1310.
38:31
SPEAKER_1: Once again, 317-480-1310.
38:36
SPEAKER_1: We thank our previous guest that joined us on tonight,
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SPEAKER_1: Pastor Davanta Scruggs,
38:40
SPEAKER_1: and we want to continue to pray for the Jett family as they are preparing for
38:46
SPEAKER_1: a celebration of life for loss of a loved one, Dalys Jett.
38:50
SPEAKER_1: We want to also be in prayer that they do get the answers that they are seeking.
38:56
SPEAKER_1: And as we go forward on tonight, a couple of things, we're just going to open up the lines.
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SPEAKER_1: If you want to be part of the conversation,
39:02
SPEAKER_1: you have anything you want to add,
39:05
SPEAKER_1: feel free to call in 317-480-1310 or even comment on our Facebook page.
39:09
SPEAKER_1: But a couple of things I do want to at least try to hit
39:13
SPEAKER_1: with our remaining moments is last week, we had the hearings with Fauci.
39:23
SPEAKER_1: Who was there, Dr. Fauci, who was there during COVID-19.
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SPEAKER_1: And he was the one that kind of helped lead the nation,
39:33
SPEAKER_1: if you will, as far as an understanding of where the virus was coming from.
39:38
SPEAKER_1: Here's what some of the side effects were.
39:40
SPEAKER_1: Here's what some of the issues were.
39:43
SPEAKER_1: And they had hearings for Dr. Fauci on last week in which he pleaded the fifth.
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SPEAKER_1: And a lot of folks, you know, took issue with that because he pleaded the fifth.
39:54
SPEAKER_1: And the reason he pleaded the fifth was,
39:56
SPEAKER_1: you know, one,
39:57
SPEAKER_1: because he was told,
39:58
SPEAKER_1: well, hey, we want you to come in and talk because we want to send you to jail.
40:04
SPEAKER_1: They say you need to go to prison.
40:06
SPEAKER_1: So if he knows, well,
40:07
SPEAKER_1: they're looking to put me in jail for whatever I say,
40:12
SPEAKER_1: then I have a right to plead the fifth because of
40:16
SPEAKER_1: the fact you've already said you're trying to arrest me for whatever.
40:22
SPEAKER_1: Now, here's the deal.
40:24
SPEAKER_1: Really, the main thing about this whole Dr.
40:27
SPEAKER_1: Fauci thing is the fact that a lot of you Trump supporters are now trying
40:33
SPEAKER_1: to blame Dr. Fauci for what happened with COVID-19.
40:39
SPEAKER_1: Let's do a rewind.
40:41
SPEAKER_1: Dr. Fauci was certainly out there.
40:43
SPEAKER_1: He was providing scientific facts and evidence,
40:46
SPEAKER_1: and he was sharing with a lot of the news stations what he thought
40:55
SPEAKER_1: the scientific backing was.
40:59
SPEAKER_1: Let's also remember, though,
41:02
SPEAKER_1: that it was President Trump at that time who took the ownership for bringing out
41:10
SPEAKER_1: the vaccine, which a lot of folks are upset with Dr. Fauci about.
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SPEAKER_1: Trump was the one that's saying,
41:19
SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: he was the one in charge of warp speed in which they got the vaccine rolled out.
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SPEAKER_1: You forget.
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SPEAKER_1: He came on national TV several times and took credit for making sure we had a vaccine.
41:37
SPEAKER_1: So I'm trying to understand.
41:39
SPEAKER_1: You want to bring Fauci in and say we want to blame him for the vaccine and for
41:46
SPEAKER_1: the response to COVID-19.
41:50
SPEAKER_1: But yet you've got an individual who is the president that says, hey, I take all responsibility.
41:57
SPEAKER_1: Now, he didn't say responsibility.
41:58
SPEAKER_1: He said credit.
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SPEAKER_1: I take all credit for this.
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SPEAKER_1: I take all credit for how we respond.
42:04
SPEAKER_1: I take credit for saying we're going to open up the country by Easter.
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SPEAKER_1: Remember that?
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SPEAKER_1: He says, I take credit for having the vaccine rolled out.
42:16
SPEAKER_1: He told you he took credit.
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SPEAKER_1: He was bold with it.
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SPEAKER_1: But you're not questioning him.
42:26
SPEAKER_1: You're questioning Dr. Fauci.
42:31
SPEAKER_1: Now, wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_1: You had somebody who took ownership of it.
42:37
SPEAKER_1: You had somebody that was talking about, you know, all these different medications.
42:43
SPEAKER_1: Talking about bleach.
42:44
SPEAKER_1: Dr. Fauci wasn't talking about bleach.
42:50
SPEAKER_1: You had somebody that was talking about, you know, taking some horse pills.
42:55
SPEAKER_1: Dr. Fauci wasn't talking about horse pills.
42:58
SPEAKER_1: You see, it's interesting, you know, they questioned Fauci.
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SPEAKER_1: He pleaded the fifth, and he did it because he had to protect himself.
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SPEAKER_1: They asked him questions like, what's the color of your suit?
43:08
SPEAKER_1: What's the color of your shoes?
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SPEAKER_1: You know, all this kind of stuff.
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SPEAKER_1: If he said blue, they may say turquoise, and then they're trying to find him in contempt.
43:17
SPEAKER_1: Or say he lied before Congress.
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SPEAKER_1: That's how petty they were.
43:21
SPEAKER_1: That's how petty they are.
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SPEAKER_1: So it was smart of him to plead the fifth.
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SPEAKER_1: What he did not do -- all he did is say, hey, I'm going to be respectful to this committee.
43:41
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to come in and I'm going to be respectful with my answers as I plead the fifth.
43:50
SPEAKER_1: Now, it's very interesting.
43:51
SPEAKER_1: You have all these Republican lawmakers that are saying how terrible it was
43:56
SPEAKER_1: that he did and how now he really needs to be charged
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SPEAKER_1: and how he really treated those that were there to question him
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SPEAKER_1: by not answering their questions.
44:15
SPEAKER_1: But let's be serious.
44:18
SPEAKER_1: Dr. Fauci did not come in like a lot of these cabinet members of the Trump administration.
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SPEAKER_1: Think about the last couple of administrations.
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SPEAKER_1: You had a lot of folks that were coming in.
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SPEAKER_1: They wouldn't answer questions.
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SPEAKER_1: What we've seen all year long this year,
44:38
SPEAKER_1: Trump officials,
44:39
SPEAKER_1: you know,
44:39
SPEAKER_1: from this administration,
44:41
SPEAKER_1: they come in and they go at it with the Democrats that are asking valid questions.
44:50
SPEAKER_1: They come in with notebooks attacking the ones that are trying to get down
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SPEAKER_1: and understand the business of the government.
45:05
SPEAKER_1: They got notebooks attacking them.
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SPEAKER_1: They got notebooks.
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SPEAKER_1: Yes, remember Pam Bondi?
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SPEAKER_1: Dr. Fauci didn't come in with no book,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, in hand, ready to attack Republican lawmakers who asked him questions.
45:22
SPEAKER_1: He just said, you know what?
45:25
SPEAKER_1: Here's what you're trying to do to me, and I ain't going to let you do it.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm going to plead the fifth.
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SPEAKER_1: He said, I'm going to respect you.
45:37
SPEAKER_1: Think about all, you know, when we look at some of the hearings we've seen throughout the year.
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SPEAKER_1: Many folks,
45:46
SPEAKER_1: we can count,
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SPEAKER_1: you know, hands, toes,
45:49
SPEAKER_1: you name it,
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SPEAKER_1: have come in and they've gone at it with
45:57
SPEAKER_1: some of the Democrat lawmakers
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SPEAKER_1: who are asking genuinely good questions.
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SPEAKER_1: But you won't attack a doctor who, let's remember,
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SPEAKER_1: all he did was share the information.
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SPEAKER_1: He didn't make the decisions.
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SPEAKER_1: Because your president, President Trump, he was clear to say, I make the decisions.
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SPEAKER_1: Remember,
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SPEAKER_1: he was coming on every single day,
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SPEAKER_1: every single day in the middle of the day during COVID-19.
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SPEAKER_1: He was coming on doing a press conference.
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SPEAKER_1: Why did he do that?
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SPEAKER_1: Because he wanted to portray I've got it under control.
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SPEAKER_1: Y'all forget that.
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SPEAKER_1: He was coming on every single day.
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SPEAKER_1: Saying, here's what we're doing.
46:57
SPEAKER_1: Matter of fact, he was saying, here's what I'm doing.
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SPEAKER_1: I've directed my administration to do X, Y, Z.
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SPEAKER_1: How many times have we heard that?
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SPEAKER_1: Well, sir, here's what they're telling you.
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SPEAKER_1: How many times have we heard that?
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SPEAKER_1: But you want to point the finger at a Dr. Fauci,
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SPEAKER_1: who all he did was provide the information,
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SPEAKER_1: the facts, and presented them to the people.
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SPEAKER_1: It was that simple.
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SPEAKER_1: And we know that doesn't happen in this administration where they want to present the facts.
47:46
SPEAKER_1: We've seen ICE shootings in which before there's even the first minute of
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SPEAKER_1: an investigation, they'll come out and they'll blame the victims of the shootings.
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SPEAKER_1: We've seen that in Minnesota.
47:59
SPEAKER_1: We've seen that in other places.
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SPEAKER_1: We've seen where there was just a cyber attack on water utilities.
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SPEAKER_1: Matter of fact, Minnesota was part of that.
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SPEAKER_1: It was known.
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SPEAKER_1: Check this out.
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SPEAKER_1: The federal government, their own cybersecurity,
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SPEAKER_1: said it came from Iran.
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SPEAKER_1: Trump said, no, it came from Minnesota.
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SPEAKER_1: Rather than blame Iran,
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SPEAKER_1: who is the actual initiator of the attack,
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SPEAKER_1: the real initiator of the attack, he doesn't want to do that.
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SPEAKER_1: He wants to point to his political enemies, somebody who doesn't agree with him.
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SPEAKER_1: Why?
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SPEAKER_1: But you want to go after Dr. Fauci.
48:53
SPEAKER_1: Trying to figure out, don't you remember who took all the credit for the vaccine?
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SPEAKER_1: You want to blame Fauci on the vaccine.
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SPEAKER_1: Go back.
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SPEAKER_1: And you can Google all of the press conferences.
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SPEAKER_1: Day after day after day after day after day.
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SPEAKER_1: Every single day of the week.
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SPEAKER_1: Weeks on end.
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SPEAKER_1: Trump saying he's got it under control.
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SPEAKER_1: Fauci came in.
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SPEAKER_1: He answered questions.
49:34
SPEAKER_1: But he didn't say,
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SPEAKER_1: I'm going to call a press conference because I'm wanting you to hear from me.
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SPEAKER_1: That's what he did.
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SPEAKER_1: And also,
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SPEAKER_1: this past weekend,
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SPEAKER_1: we had Greg Bovino,
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SPEAKER_1: who came into Indiana.
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SPEAKER_1: When we talked about this last week,
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SPEAKER_1: you know,
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SPEAKER_1: which we announced that he was coming into Indiana,
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SPEAKER_1: we didn't know where he was going to be appearing at.
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SPEAKER_1: But we had this great flyer saying Greg Bovino's coming into Indiana and he's going
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SPEAKER_1: to have this mass deportation rally.
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SPEAKER_1: What's that even mean?
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SPEAKER_1: What's a mass deportation rally up in Fishers?
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SPEAKER_1: So we talked about that last Wednesday and that rally was scheduled for this past Saturday.
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SPEAKER_1: And then as Saturday came, in the time for that rally, folks
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SPEAKER_1: that thought they had tickets or were planning to go
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SPEAKER_1: were given a runaround and it was moved from this library to this spot to that spot.
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SPEAKER_1: I'm not sure that we even really know where it was finally held.
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SPEAKER_1: But we do have pictures.
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SPEAKER_1: Folks are saying that it was held in Greenfield.
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SPEAKER_1: At a muddy field.
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SPEAKER_1: Under a tent.
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SPEAKER_1: $50 or $500 to attend.
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SPEAKER_1: Secret meeting.
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SPEAKER_1: With Greg Bovino.
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SPEAKER_1: And I want to ask y'all.
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SPEAKER_1: Why Greg Bovino?
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SPEAKER_1: Why would he even be a draw?
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SPEAKER_1: He's not even head of ICE anymore.
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SPEAKER_1: Or Department of Homeland Security, whatever his position was.
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SPEAKER_1: They got rid of him.
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SPEAKER_1: Pushed him out to California.
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SPEAKER_1: Y'all want to bring him in Indiana and say he's going to be a draw?
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SPEAKER_1: And we're going to pay $50 to $500.
51:52
SPEAKER_1: And the organizers, I think, I don't know, Heritage, somebody.
51:59
SPEAKER_1: What are they getting out of it?
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SPEAKER_1: Why are they even organizing?
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SPEAKER_1: And once again, why Greg Bovino?
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SPEAKER_1: He really doesn't even have a position anymore.
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SPEAKER_1: He can't do anything.
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SPEAKER_1: And I want to know, what'd you guys get for $50?
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SPEAKER_1: What'd you get for $500?
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SPEAKER_1: What'd you get for $250?
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SPEAKER_1: It's interesting that as this event was recapped,
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SPEAKER_1: that you even had State Representative Jim Lucas,
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SPEAKER_1: who was scheduled to speak, ended up not speaking.
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SPEAKER_1: He pretty much said this event was a sham.
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SPEAKER_1: Said his wife even twisted her ankle going through the mud to get there.
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SPEAKER_1: That's where we're going to end our program on tonight.
52:59
SPEAKER_1: And you folks are literally playing
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SPEAKER_1: in the mud just to get people that you don't like.
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SPEAKER_1: Well, that's the end of our conversation on tonight.
53:14
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53:31
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53:41
SPEAKER_1: Thanks, everyone.
53:41
SPEAKER_1: Have a great evening.
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