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Movie Exchange #1: V for Vendetta · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  ♪ I'm a team, I'm a team, right now ♪
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  - Hello and welcome back to the pop culture junkie podcast.
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  I'm Shauna joined by Olivia.
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  - Hi.
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  - Hi, Beebee.
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  How are you?
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  Just another day, another day in Paradise.
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  - It actually is quite nice here right now.
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  I went to Phoenix and I came back here.
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  I feel like maybe we recorded since then,
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  but I went to Phoenix and I got back here
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  and it's been like 60, 70, it's been perfect.
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  I really, really love it.
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  On Easter, I went to this very unique San Francisco event.
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  It is called the movie.
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  - Oh my God, the video was amazing.
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  I was over at Andrew's family's house
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  and I was like, "What a living is doing, guys?"
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  (laughing)
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  - So I went to this event in Dolores Park,
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  which is right by Mission and Castro.
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  Castro is the gay neighborhood.
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  And it was this park, right?
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  - Yes, you and I went.
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  And it's called the most really hot.
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  - Yes, yeah.
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  It's called Honky Jesus and it is a sexy Jesus pageant contest.
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  And it is amazing.
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  It's as great as it sounds.
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  It's very San Francisco.
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  Everybody dresses up in sacrilegious costumes.
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  - I love it. - For the event.
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  And yeah, it's a pageant for men
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  and they ultimately show off how sexy they are.
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  Truly, there are some crazy costumes.
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  People of wine, there was like a Ken wine.
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  There was a man.
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  - Ken, Jesus.
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  - Ken, Jesus, it's so good.
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  - Ken, I definitely look up Honky Jesus winners.
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  They are amazing.
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  The guy last year came in on this like,
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  Buffalo, this rhinestone, like Buffalo.
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  He was like cowboy Jesus.
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  This year, Renewable Energy Jesus one.
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  - Yes, we love it.
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  - We love the Green New Deal Jesus.
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  - Yeah, he had a little like windmill cross.
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  It was great.
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  - Oh my God.
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  Did you dress like Mary Magdalene?
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  - No, I actually, so I went with my boyfriends mom
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  and stepped out and his sister, which is even funnier.
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  - Wait, was he not there?
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  - No, he was there.
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  - Oh, it's like you dressed up as a man.
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  - You left your boyfriend at home.
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  - Yeah, it's like, you've got to stay here.
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  I've got to show them those things.
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  - You stay.
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  - And so yeah, ultimately it was family affair.
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  It was very funny.
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  In San Francisco, people are allowed to be fully naked though.
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  And so we ran into a few fully nude individuals
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  in this process.
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  And yeah, it was just great.
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  Just like you just put them in the closet.
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  - Like you just put them in the closet?
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  - Or they just naked.
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  - They were just naked.
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  - They're just naked.
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  - Oh, I'm not.
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  - As a way Jesus made them, you know?
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  (laughing)
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  And it was really important.
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  - It was the good Lord and Tend it, you know?
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  - Listen.
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  - I will say, we did not get our obligatory egg pick
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  this year though, because I didn't make double bags.
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  So.
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  - Oh my gosh, we didn't.
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  - I know the egg.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Yeah, egg.
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  - Egg Libya did not make an egg cross this year, unfortunately.
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  - I have multiple pictures in my phone,
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  listeners of Olivia just posing with a large amount
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  of devil legs.
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  And they always start out good.
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  And then she starts smiling.
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  And then they turn strangely sexual with the eggs
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  and just like, it's bent over with the butt.
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  - Yeah, yeah.
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  So.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Maybe you'll post them.
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  - I should post them.
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  I like the ones where you just look joyful.
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  You're just like, (screams)
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  - Yeah.
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  - And you know, at the time, okay, I think I had like 36 eggs.
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  - You had so many eggs.
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  - Which, like in my mind, I was like, that's 36 devil legs.
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  That is not 36 devil legs.
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  - No, it's not.
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  - That is what's math.
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  - But 72.
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  - 72 devil legs.
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  And I was making them for four people.
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  (laughing)
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  - I made two big friends.
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  - We, I made 18.
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  - And 36 for Easter this year.
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  - Okay.
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  - I think they turned out pretty good,
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  but we didn't finish them,
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  but I just left the rest for the Andrews grandparents.
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  So, hopefully they finished them.
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  And I put like chopped up like peppers from his Nana's garden.
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  They were little spicy.
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  - Spicy.
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  - Mm.
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  - Spicy.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Yeah, I didn't make them.
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  Did your whole house smell like farts?
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  - I mean, usually does.
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  - Yeah. - It's just that.
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  - It smells.
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  - Heart storm, fart storm.
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  - It smells like cats and protein farts in this house.
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  (laughing)
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  - An occasional bed bath and beyond candle.
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  - There you go.
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  - Let me just try and, try and best to hold it all together.
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  (laughing)
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  - Speaking of things that make us happy
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  to hold ourselves together,
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  Olivia and I had the idea to watch each other's favorite movies
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  and do an entire episode based on each other's favorite movies.
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  Did you like my transition?
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  I was trying really hard there.
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  - Yeah.
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  - You did amazing.
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  (laughing)
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  - So my favorite movie is first,
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  we'll do a whole episode dedicated to my favorite movie.
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  And then sometime soon we will do an episode dedicated
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  to Olivia's favorite movie.
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  My favorite movie, really since the day
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  that I saw it in high school is V for Bendetta,
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  which has definitely been getting a little extra traction nowadays
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  because it is strangely very pertinent.
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  - Relevant?
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  - Relevant, thank you.
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  It's a little relevant right now.
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  pertinent relevant.
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  So V for Bendetta was released on March 17th, 2006
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  in the United States.
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  Apparently had a limited release in a premiere in 2005.
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  I didn't realize that.
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  It is directed by James McTeague.
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  Sorry if I said that completely wrong, but we're gonna go with it.
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  It stars Hugo Weaving as V.
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  He is the main character along with Natalie Portman
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  as Evie Hammond.
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  Have you ever seen this movie before
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  I made you watch it, Olivia?
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  - Yes, actually I really, really love this movie.
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  I think that when I first saw it,
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  like I was just like, wow, this is so unique.
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  It is such a beautifully done movie.
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  I think that a lot of the monologues
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  within this movie are so memorable.
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  I mean, the mask is absolutely iconic.
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  It is now used actually by activist groups, like anonymous.
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  And there, I mean, how can you not every November 5th go?
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  Remember, remember the 5th of November?
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  - Yes.
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  - And so I think there are so many iconic movies,
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  but I think when I first saw this movie,
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  probably around 2005, 2006.
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  I went, wow, that's such a quirky little movie
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  that will never happen.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  - Oh my God.
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  - Like that's a distant future that I will never know.
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  And like, wow, I'm so happy we have democracy kind of thing.
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  And it felt very, very distant at the time.
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  And I think that I've watched this movie throughout,
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  you know, like I always really visited it.
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  Probably like every five years.
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  And I watch it.
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  And it was really striking to rewatch it.
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  And Blake had never actually seen it before.
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  - Oh good.
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  I'm glad he watched it with you.
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  - Yeah, him and I watched it together.
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  I was like, you know what?
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  We're gonna sit down.
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  We're gonna watch this movie.
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  And he'd never seen it like most movies.
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  We're getting him there.
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  He's getting in there.
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  - Oh, he's learning movies now.
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  - He's getting there, guys.
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  He's getting there.
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  Well, we'll turn this into a pop culture junkie yet.
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  - No, literally there's a list of all the movies
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  that he hasn't seen purely because I'm like,
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  you've never seen that and we just had it to the list.
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  - Andrew and I have been together for 16 years
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  and we still do that.
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  He's never seen Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
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  Like the original original?
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  - Yeah.
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  - But he's seen the Johnny Depp one?
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  - Yeah.
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  But he's never seen the original one.
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  I was showing him like the tunnel scene
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  from Willy Wonka.
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  I don't remember.
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  I was like, that reminds me of the tunnel scene
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  from Willy Wonka, I don't know.
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  And he's like, I know what you're talking about.
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  So yeah, uncultured.
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  - Men, men.
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  Okay, keep going.
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  But so we've never seen it and it was like really, really crazy
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  for like me to be like, wow, like thinking about him
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  watching it in this lens of the world that we are today.
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  - Yeah.
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  - And when I watched it, like it really is
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  just such a beautiful movie and everyone on that movie
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  was full-sand, so good.
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  - Yeah.
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  - And the casting, the writing, the set director,
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  like the historical references.
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  I mean, like it's truly just such a good movie
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  that references so many things in history,
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  but it's very unique as well.
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  Like they're their own characters.
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  It's not like, oh, well, this is a copy paste of this person.
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  It draws inspiration and makes it its own.
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  So I really, really want this copy.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I'm glad that you like it.
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  Yeah, it is.
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  Like I said, my favorite movie, I watched it in 2006
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  when it came out.
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  I was a, gosh, I guess a junior in high school
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  and I went with my academic to Catholic team
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  and I remember leaving the theater and just being like,
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  oh my god.
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  Like, you know, people say like, oh, that movie radicalized you
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  or what radicalized you.
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  Like I would always kind of like cared about shit,
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  but I don't know.
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  I feel like I left that theater and I was like, oh my god.
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  Like just, what stuck with me was just like the plight,
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  like gay people went through in this movie.
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  And just like how thin, like, you know,
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  how fragile democracy is, I guess.
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  So for those who haven't seen the movie,
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  it is adapted from a graphic novel called V for Vendetta,
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  created by Alan Moore and artist David Lloyd.
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  It was published by DC Comics/Vertigo
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  between 1982 and 1989.
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  Vertigo is kind of like the darker DC Comics branch.
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  So it's not like DC Comics like Batman,
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  it's Superman and Batman, you know,
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  it's like they're kind of rather under the radar
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  indie kind of characters.
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  Alan Moore has come out and said that he hated
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  this movie adaptation.
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  He did not like it at all.
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  - Interesting.
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  - I didn't dive too much into the reasoning behind that
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  to be honest because I just wanted to focus more on the movie.
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  I guess they do change a few things
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  from the graphic novel to the movie adaptation.
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  But I mean, it's a seven year long graphic novel
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  it looks like and so there's a lot of content there.
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  Kind of squish into a movie.
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  - I haven't read the comic books either on them,
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  but from what I understand and spoiler alert,
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  we are gonna be going in here.
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  - Yeah, we're gonna spoil this movie.
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  So that was our quick synopsis of what the movie is.
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  I guess let's actually go into the synopsis
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  and then go into a little bit of the spoiler territory.
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  - Exactly, yeah.
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  So in a fascist future Britain,
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  a young woman named Evie crosses paths with V.
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  He is a masked revenge driven vigilante
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  who plots to blow up Parliament on Guy Fox Knight
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  to spark a public uprising
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  against the tyrannical government that once tortured him.
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  And that is where we get the famous poem.
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  Remember, remember the fifth of November,
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  the gunpowder treason in plot.
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  I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason
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  should ever be forgotten.
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  So I guess back in, oh gosh, I should have looked up the year
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  that Guy Fox tried to blow up Parliament.
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  (laughs)
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  He didn't succeed.
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  And that is an actual thing that happened in history.
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  - In history.
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  - Mm-hmm.
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  - So V wants to blow up Parliament.
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  He walks around with a Guy Fox mask on,
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  kind of like a cartoonish mask,
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  has gloves on a hat, a wig.
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  You never see any of his skin except for his hands very briefly
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  when he's making eggs for Evie and they're very burned.
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  - Yeah, and it was in 16, yeah.
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  - Yeah, in 16-05, yeah, of course.
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  Everyone knows that.
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  Doh.
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  So Evie gets kind of pulled into this against her will, right?
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  She's going out for a walk one night
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  and in this fascist future, big brother is watching you.
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  There's a curfew.
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  Everybody is being recorded at all times.
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  Your movements are being monitored by the government.
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  All of the TV is government ran and sanctioned.
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  So as she's out to go on kind of a date,
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  but kind of with her like boss,
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  she is apprehended by finger men
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  who are kind of like the ice agents.
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  - Who stopp her.
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  - Yeah, exactly.
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  - Same thing.
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  What's the difference?
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  Who are trigger warnings writing to rape her.
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  - And then chaos ensues.
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  - Yes, and to be intervenes and has a very vocacious vocabulary
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  and saves her.
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  - Yes, and probably we're gonna have to say
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  from this point on, we will have spoilers.
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  So, you've never seen this movie.
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  - Get out.
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  - We love you, go watch it, come back, podcasts live forever
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  so you can come into this.
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  - Also, this movie came out 20 years ago.
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  So it came out 20 years ago, but we're kind.
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  We're kind people, we're giving you a warning
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  and three, two, one, spoilers.
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  - We're kind.
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  - So kind.
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  - So kind.
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  - I'm a really good person.
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  - Yeah, so whenever EB meets V, right?
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  Obviously it's EVV.
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  - So it's like it's meant to be.
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  - Yeah, it's meant to be EV and V.
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  - Yeah, even that rhyme.
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  So, there, every other word is a V word.
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  It is quite crazy.
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  So when I say the writing in the monologues here,
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  just so good, I was struck by,
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  I didn't even know there were that many V words
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  that you could use in a row to make sounds.
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  - It all makes sense.
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  - Honestly, I was taking them all dramatically correct.
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  - Yeah, I was taking notes.
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  And I got a little bit, I have one through the movie,
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  so I was like, stop taking notes.
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  But one of my few notes is,
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  I never knew there were so many V words to use in a speech.
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  But that was fun to write.
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  (laughing)
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  - Sounds vivified.
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  - Yeah, and one of the really interesting things about this,
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  right, is from the very beginning,
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  there are these in every single scene
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  of this movie in the set design as well.
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  And so, I think that you really do see
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  just such a love letter to this movie
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  and the message that is trying to send.
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  But, how is Shona was mentioning?
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  From the second that we meet the A's Fingerman,
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  which are Gustapo Ice Agents of what we see today,
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  they are immediately abusing their power.
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  And we see that by them trying to rape her,
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  there is a curfew where no one can leave their homes at night.
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  And ultimately, they are just under,
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  one of the scariest moments,
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  I think that you could see both the macro and the micro
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  of how this really does impact a society
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  and like a no you see yourself within ED as well.
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  - And you know that these agents could get away
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  with raping her if they succeeded in it.
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  - Yeah, because the ground counselor, the chancellor,
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  is a corrupt dictator, right?
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  He can do whatever he wants, society cannot.
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  And his agents would have been able to get away with this.
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  And so you're right, like the day-to-day people,
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  you aren't allowed to have music, art,
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  they have a like forbidden materials
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  and she goes to, you know, when she eventually goes to these house,
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  it's just full of classical art and music.
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  And later she goes to another person's house
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  where they have the same thing
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  and they also have a caran.
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  There is a state religion,
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  it's just very like Christoph-Fascism, right?
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  - Yeah.
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  - So having the caran in your house is a big no-no as well.
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  - Obviously this movie is satin-bwritten.
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  There are a lot of immigrants within Britain,
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  there are a lot of Muslims within Britain as well.
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  And so what I really do,
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  and we kind of mentioned this before,
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  is they reference quite a bit of history within this,
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  but make it their own.
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  And I was talking with Blake about this movie actually
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  and I was like, so when you were watching this,
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  were you thinking of Donald Trump?
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  And he was like, yeah, absolutely.
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  And I was like, well, the British Prime Minister
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  is based on Hitler.
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  And it is such an interesting juxtaposition,
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  like everyone is always like those liberals,
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  they love to call them Hitler all the time,
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  but it really is like you see these moments of like,
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  why don't I see America within this?
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  When this movie was coming out, we had George Bush,
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  we had the Iraq war, we had the conspiracies
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  of 9/11 was an inside job.
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  And ultimately you almost see that referenced
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  within the movie as well, really early in it.
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  Like talking about America's wars in America's impact
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  on Britain actually closing its border
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  and moving these things.
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  And so it is quite interesting to see 20 years later.
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  Exactly.
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  All of the United States have been destabilized.
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  They keep referring it to us.
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  Like the country once known as the United States.
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  There was a nuclear war between the US and the Soviet Union
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  that led to this.
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  And then the chaos written falls and is replaced
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  by a coalition of far-right groups
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  kind of backed by these big corporations.
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  They call themselves Norse fire.
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  And people start, they're afraid, right?
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  There has been an international pandemic
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  that broke out at St. Mary's School in the movie
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  and of water treatment plant that was poison.
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  Three of our people.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  And so they keep kind of referring
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  to those incidents throughout the movie.
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  You find out, you know, towards the end
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  and it's pretty obvious that the government itself
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  was the one who released these things
• 19:08
  and made these attacks on their own country
• 19:12
  in order to make people fall in line in obey.
• 19:15
  And to lose their rights.
• 19:17
  Exactly.
• 19:18
  Because they're so scared they vote in this
• 19:20
  because it's, we will protect you.
• 19:22
  We will make Britain great again, right?
• 19:25
  And V sees through this.
• 19:27
  He survived a fire that broke out at what is at St. Mary's.
• 19:33
  He was part of like the experiment.
• 19:35
  No, so it was.
• 19:36
  Yeah, when they were engineering the biomedical weapons.
• 19:42
  They actually created it from the--
• 19:45
  That's right.
• 19:46
  And so what's interesting is, you know,
• 19:48
  he is the start of this as well as the end to this.
• 19:53
  Yeah.
• 19:53
  Yeah.
• 19:54
  So in the beginning and the end.
• 19:55
  So they were doing experiments on these counter protests.
• 20:01
  So anyone who was opposing the running prime minister
• 20:05
  at the time, they would detain and they
• 20:08
  would put them into these facilities
• 20:09
  and a lot of them died.
• 20:11
  All of the imagery in there is very reminiscent
• 20:14
  of like the Holocaust.
• 20:16
  They shave all of their heads.
• 20:18
  They throw them into mass graves once they're done, once they die,
• 20:21
  right?
• 20:22
  Nazi doctors.
• 20:24
  Exactly.
• 20:25
  And doing these experiments on them.
• 20:27
  And we see that it's people who don't fit the status quo,
• 20:30
  right?
• 20:31
  So if you're homosexual, if you're
• 20:34
  practicing a different religion, yeah, if you're a protester,
• 20:37
  the right to be--
• 20:39
  gathering and protesting at this point
• 20:41
  has been completely demolished, right?
• 20:44
  Even the color scheme in the film is very black and white
• 20:47
  and red, which is very Nazi-coded.
• 20:49
  We see the chancellor, you know, like you said, kind of in the Nazi
• 20:55
  S-cuniform, with like imagery behind him,
• 20:57
  speaking like him, obviously in English.
• 21:00
  But yeah, so they are abusing people.
• 21:04
  They create this disease.
• 21:06
  And then ultimately they start by spreading it
• 21:09
  to these key areas.
• 21:11
  So the first is the school, which of course,
• 21:14
  if children are sick and children are attacked,
• 21:16
  that is a real sense of everybody rallies behind that.
• 21:19
  And then ultimately they attack a water treatment
• 21:22
  plant.
• 21:23
  And from there, they strip away a lot of rights.
• 21:26
  They quarantine people.
• 21:28
  They set these embargoes.
• 21:31
  They close the borders.
• 21:32
  And ultimately, like again, this movie came out in 2005, 2006.
• 21:37
  Like it is quite a statement on the Patriot Act, which
• 21:41
  is our willingness to give up information.
• 21:48
  Yeah, our freedoms are right to privacy
• 21:51
  as a result of a terrorist attack.
• 21:55
  So it is quite nodding to that.
• 21:57
  This was also based on a comic that was written before.
• 22:01
  So we've seen these themes many times.
• 22:03
  Exactly.
• 22:04
  In Epson flows, I think, with how relevant it feels.
• 22:07
  Like you said earlier, when I watched this in 2006,
• 22:11
  I mean, I was a teenager.
• 22:12
  And not as smart as I am now.
• 22:17
  Crazy.
• 22:18
  But I left it.
• 22:19
  And I felt like there's, oh my gosh, I feel radicalized.
• 22:22
  I want to change the world.
• 22:23
  But now that it's 20 years later, and I'm watching it in 2026,
• 22:28
  and as an adult who's lived through all of these things,
• 22:30
  you're like, oh, shit, I see where this is going.
• 22:34
  So Evie very reluctantly gets taken to his house.
• 22:38
  Her parents were protesters.
• 22:40
  They were taken in black bags by the government.
• 22:43
  So you can tell there's something there.
• 22:46
  She wants to change the world.
• 22:47
  She wants to be a part of this fight.
• 22:49
  But she's scared, of course.
• 22:50
  Her parents were taken from her, never seen again.
• 22:53
  So when he takes her to a priest's house,
• 22:57
  she says she wants to help dress up like a little kid.
• 23:01
  Oh, we skipped over a very important part.
• 23:04
  V takes over a new station and gets the message out
• 23:07
  to all of Britain that says--
• 23:10
  Oh, wait.
• 23:11
  Are we even talking about the first moment of it?
• 23:14
  Yeah, he blew up the Bailey, right?
• 23:16
  So Evie's there.
• 23:18
  Oh my god.
• 23:19
  Evie's there.
• 23:20
  He blows up the Bailey, which is how she gets
• 23:22
  wrapped into all of this.
• 23:23
  Everyone thinks she's involved.
• 23:24
  But she's like, bro, I was just going for a walk.
• 23:27
  This dude saved me and asked if I liked music.
• 23:29
  And now here I am.
• 23:31
  Everything she's a terrorist.
• 23:33
  He takes over the new station, puts out a message.
• 23:35
  It says, one year from tonight, I will blow up Parliament.
• 23:39
  And it's kind of like a rallying cry.
• 23:41
  If you feel as I feel, if you see what I see, join me, right?
• 23:46
  And we can blow this shit up together.
• 23:49
  And from then, it's like, oh god, we got to catch this guy.
• 23:52
  And Evie, who everyone thinks is involved.
• 23:56
  OK, there we go.
• 23:57
  And yeah, it's like the initial scene
• 24:01
  and the ending scene kind of echo each other
• 24:04
  as well, again, Sean had mentioned it.
• 24:06
  But music is almost banned, right?
• 24:10
  So people don't have access to music.
• 24:13
  And we have the 1812 overture by Tchaichovsky.
• 24:17
  And we really, really hear this kind of like rally cry.
• 24:24
  They quickly cover it up and say, this was a planned demolition
• 24:29
  that happened.
• 24:30
  And then it goes to the new station.
• 24:34
  And releases a video.
• 24:35
  And says a year from now, if you think
• 24:38
  that this government is corrupt, show up at the Parliament
• 24:42
  and we will overthrow our evil overlords, right?
• 24:48
  I know.
• 24:48
  The spin is so interesting.
• 24:50
  It's like the take on fake news, right?
• 24:53
  And we now we're all very familiar with how certain stations
• 24:58
  control it.
• 24:59
  Yep, this is government run TV, right?
• 25:01
  So they cannot tell the truth.
• 25:04
  Even the newscasters know that the stories they're reporting
• 25:07
  on are bullshit.
• 25:08
  But obviously you have to fall in line or you will die.
• 25:13
  The government approved scripts.
• 25:15
  Exactly.
• 25:16
  Or as I say, or you will die.
• 25:18
  We can disappear you, right?
• 25:21
  So yeah, V intercepts.
• 25:23
  And it's like, I wasn't a planned demolition.
• 25:26
  I did it.
• 25:26
  Join me.
• 25:28
  And Evie gets involved, but tries to escape, right?
• 25:33
  And oh gosh.
• 25:35
  I want to take a break before we talk about the big scene
• 25:39
  with her interrogation.
• 25:41
  So--
• 25:41
  Yep.
• 25:42
  Yeah.
• 25:43
  Hold on, everybody.
• 25:44
  We're going to take a quick break and get even deeper
• 25:46
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• 25:48
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  So now back to V for Vendetta.
• 27:12
  OK.
• 27:13
  We will wrap up our little plot points here.
• 27:16
  Evie tries to escape from V because she's like,
• 27:20
  she's scared.
• 27:21
  I understand.
• 27:22
  It's OK, girl.
• 27:23
  You're scared.
• 27:24
  You won't be soon.
• 27:26
  So she escapes to her boss's house,
• 27:29
  who is the guy she was supposed to meet in the date
• 27:31
  early in the movie.
• 27:33
  Finds out quickly that he's like, hey, I'm
• 27:36
  expected to wine and dye in beautiful women like you.
• 27:39
  I'm gay.
• 27:40
  And I have all this art in my house.
• 27:43
  He's a very safe--
• 27:44
  Thank you.
• 27:45
  He's a V for Vendetta.
• 27:47
  He's a V character, but he's hiding behind a mask
• 27:52
  that isn't like a physical mask, right?
• 27:54
  But he's hiding his--
• 27:56
  That was really deep.
• 27:58
  She's so scared.
• 28:00
  Yeah, he's hiding his--
• 28:01
  Did you think of that while you were
• 28:02
  baked while you were watching the movie?
• 28:04
  No, I just off the cuff said that.
• 28:06
  Damn.
• 28:08
  But he really is a similar character.
• 28:11
  But instead of a physical mask,
• 28:13
  he's hiding behind like a societal one.
• 28:16
  He is, unfortunately, quite of a big piece
• 28:20
  on how the spacious government is able to control people.
• 28:26
  He is a talk show.
• 28:28
  He's really like a Graham Norton character, which
• 28:32
  is actually like a very popular British talk show
• 28:35
  in our world.
• 28:38
  Yes.
• 28:39
  I was trying to think, who does he remind me of?
• 28:41
  And it's definitely Graham Norton.
• 28:42
  And he has this talk show, right?
• 28:45
  And most of the time, he falls in line.
• 28:48
  He decides to do a little--
• 28:49
  Yes, he goes a little off script and has a kind of an SNL
• 28:53
  moment where he saturizes the grand counselor--
• 28:57
  chancellor.
• 28:58
  I don't know why he keeps--
• 28:59
  Chancelor.
• 29:00
  --and makes fun of him.
• 29:02
  And once upon a time in Britain,
• 29:04
  that was allowed, just like it is right now in the United States.
• 29:07
  We see Trump being made fun of on SNL all the time.
• 29:10
  It is not allowed in this country in--
• 29:14
  --in V for the dead as time.
• 29:16
  What's interesting about this is he
• 29:19
  goes into this thinking, well, what are they going to do to me?
• 29:22
  They can't touch me.
• 29:23
  I am touchable.
• 29:25
  I am such a mouthpiece for them right now.
• 29:28
  I'll get a fine.
• 29:29
  I'll get a slap on the wrist.
• 29:31
  And ultimately, he does not.
• 29:33
  He gets taken away by--
• 29:35
  He is disappeared.
• 29:37
  He is disappeared.
• 29:38
  And it really parallels Eby's childhood
• 29:42
  where she watched her parents get taken.
• 29:45
  She is hiding under the bed.
• 29:47
  And she escapes out the window and is taken by the powers that be.
• 29:55
  Where she thinks is a figure man.
• 29:57
  Yes, she thinks she's taken by the finger man.
• 30:01
  And she's put into a very similar camp
• 30:04
  that these biomedical weapons were created in it.
• 30:09
  Yes.
• 30:10
  It's a very similar camp in situation
• 30:12
  to what V went through when he was being experimented on.
• 30:15
  We mentioned that V escaped.
• 30:17
  There was a fire.
• 30:18
  There was an explosion.
• 30:19
  He was the only test subject that survived, which
• 30:23
  is why he doesn't show his skin and why he looks so burned
• 30:26
  when she saw his hands.
• 30:28
  He puts Eby through the ringer trying to berate her
• 30:31
  and really getting to move her past ear.
• 30:36
  Exactly.
• 30:37
  So he puts these little notes in her cell.
• 30:40
  Firstly, sheaves her head.
• 30:42
  Natalie Portman actually had her head shaved
• 30:45
  for this role.
• 30:46
  And it's incredible.
• 30:47
  I remember that was so crazy.
• 30:49
  Oh my God.
• 30:50
  So good.
• 30:51
  And she doesn't know that this is being staged.
• 30:54
  She thinks that she's actually being tortured,
• 30:56
  being questioned, being held.
• 30:59
  A guard keeps coming in and saying,
• 31:01
  tell us the whereabouts of code name V.
• 31:03
  Tell us anything.
• 31:04
  And we'll set you free if you just tell us anything
• 31:06
  you know about him.
• 31:08
  She won't say anything.
• 31:10
  And she keeps reading this letter that she finds, right?
• 31:13
  Written by this lesbian woman who is being held in this cell.
• 31:19
  Oh my God.
• 31:20
  Just beautiful, hard breaking letter.
• 31:22
  Oh my God of just her meeting her wife and falling in love
• 31:26
  and coming out and then getting sent away for it.
• 31:30
  It's a real and frank moment.
• 31:32
  Yeah.
• 31:33
  The story of someone who is happy and then taken.
• 31:38
  And again, there are so many callbacks
• 31:40
  and parallels to those things.
• 31:43
  It's a little movie within a movie.
• 31:45
  We get to see this woman as a child realizing
• 31:49
  that she's like squirrels and then meeting her wife
• 31:52
  and then them having time together.
• 31:55
  Did you catch it?
• 31:56
  That she said that her wife and her grew roses in the window.
• 32:00
  And that's the same rose that V leaves
• 32:02
  in all of his victims.
• 32:03
  Oh my gosh.
• 32:05
  Yeah.
• 32:05
  And ultimately Natalie Portman, EV,
• 32:09
  refuses to give up V, even though she is going to be killed
• 32:14
  and shot behind the chemical sheds.
• 32:18
  This letter, this really is what sets her of being like,
• 32:22
  you know what, fuck this, fuck this system, this society.
• 32:26
  Like she got to really read the impact
• 32:29
  of her actual human of what this is doing, right?
• 32:33
  Like it's easy to, when you're a citizen, fall in line
• 32:37
  or you don't know what to do, which is,
• 32:39
  I feel like what a lot of us feel right now, right?
• 32:41
  Like it's hard.
• 32:42
  Like what do I do?
• 32:43
  What can I do that changes things?
• 32:46
  And you know, when she really read the letter from this woman
• 32:49
  who was like, I'm going to die here
• 32:51
  and this is my last words.
• 32:53
  She's like, all right, that's what really flips the switch
• 32:55
  in her head.
• 32:56
  So when the guard comes and says, well, you have no fear anymore.
• 33:00
  Because she's like, yeah, thanks.
• 33:02
  I'd rather die.
• 33:03
  He takes her out.
• 33:06
  And we realize, oh, it was a V the whole time trying to say,
• 33:11
  he's like, you told me you didn't want to feel any fear anymore
• 33:14
  like your parents, you don't need more.
• 33:17
  At first she's pissed because she's like,
• 33:19
  you shave my head, bro.
• 33:21
  I had gorgeous hair.
• 33:22
  And I think it was more in the torture.
• 33:26
  No, she's like, but I spent years growing this.
• 33:30
  Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 33:31
  It was a second point.
• 33:33
  It was the torture.
• 33:34
  It was the torture.
• 33:36
  No, I think that this, like it really is an argument
• 33:41
  and you become what you're fighting
• 33:46
  and you to have that happen to you.
• 33:50
  Like I think it is really an interesting argument
• 33:52
  of like hurt people, hurt people, right?
• 33:55
  Yeah.
• 33:56
  We hear that all the time.
• 33:57
  And V ultimately becomes what was done to him
• 34:02
  and what catapulted him into this moment, right?
• 34:04
  And he--
• 34:05
  People say like he's a monster, he's a monster.
• 34:08
  And you know, she says to him,
• 34:09
  you're a people.
• 34:11
  Yeah.
• 34:12
  And V is a very complex character, right?
• 34:15
  You're rooting for him the entire time.
• 34:17
  But like obviously he's making morally ambiguous decisions,
• 34:22
  right?
• 34:23
  Or like decisions that we say are bad or evil.
• 34:26
  Like he's murdering people.
• 34:28
  He's breaking to people's houses and killing them.
• 34:31
  Do the ins justify the means?
• 34:33
  Like--
• 34:34
  Yes.
• 34:34
  I think--
• 34:35
  It's a real argument in that.
• 34:36
  Yeah, exactly.
• 34:37
  And you know, he keeps saying you can't kill an idea, right?
• 34:42
  And governments should be afraid of their people.
• 34:44
  People shouldn't be afraid of their government.
• 34:46
  So I think even he's all along, like, I will be this symbol.
• 34:50
  I will take on these sins.
• 34:52
  I will do these evil things so that other people
• 34:55
  can live a life outside of tyranny, right?
• 34:57
  He's willing to become the monster if it means
• 35:00
  that society can change.
• 35:02
  Because he's like, they already--
• 35:03
  Look at what are they already fucking did to me, right?
• 35:05
  He's like, I'm going full in.
• 35:06
  I'm committing myself to this, and it kills me.
• 35:09
  Yeah, I think there's a really beautiful quote where he said,
• 35:13
  like, what was done to me was monstrous.
• 35:16
  So I became a monster.
• 35:18
  Yeah.
• 35:19
  Yeah.
• 35:20
  And it's time--
• 35:21
  It really is like such a thought-provoking movie
• 35:24
  in that where it is, like you said,
• 35:28
  does he unjustify the means?
• 35:30
  And ultimately, like, from this moment on, we just go through
• 35:36
  various scenes, but at the end, it becomes the night.
• 35:41
  So it becomes November 4, almost November 5.
• 35:44
  One of my favorite parts of this maybe,
• 35:46
  he is mailed out thousands of guy-fawks masks to everybody,
• 35:51
  right?
• 35:51
  So that everybody is part of the movement.
• 35:53
  Everybody is a symbol.
• 35:55
  It's like, who is who?
• 35:57
  At a certain point, it's collective power.
• 36:00
  I also love that throughout the movie,
• 36:02
  we see a little girl watching the news and watching the--
• 36:07
  and kind of getting-- you see her slowly get radicalized.
• 36:11
  And at a certain point, you see her--
• 36:13
  She gets to kill.
• 36:14
  Yeah.
• 36:15
  She's wearing the mask and spray painting.
• 36:17
  Yeah, and somebody shoots her, which has that uprising.
• 36:21
  Everyone sees her be murdered in the soul.
• 36:23
  She's killed by ice.
• 36:25
  What?
• 36:26
  I mean, I'm sorry.
• 36:26
  The finger-maning.
• 36:28
  In the beginning.
• 36:29
  They do that to the school.
• 36:32
  Right?
• 36:32
  And so nothing gets people more angry than harming a child.
• 36:38
  So we see these echoes of what they manufactured
• 36:44
  and what V is doing in power--
• 36:47
  The people are taking back.
• 36:48
  Yes.
• 36:49
  Yeah.
• 36:50
  But it is him echoing what they did in so many ways,
• 36:56
  in so many actions.
• 36:57
  But yeah, it really is quite thought-provoking.
• 37:01
  Those moments, the murder of a child,
• 37:03
  really sends people into less fear, right?
• 37:08
  Yeah.
• 37:08
  With the murdering children on the streets
• 37:11
  of their murdering civilians for simply being there, again,
• 37:14
  call back to where we are today.
• 37:16
  Exactly.
• 37:16
  And protesting and having a freedom of speech.
• 37:20
  People are taking back protesting again.
• 37:23
  And a lot of them are getting arrested,
• 37:26
  being murdered, being disappeared.
• 37:28
  But the numbers keep growing, right?
• 37:30
  And especially everybody has these masks
• 37:32
  where they're anonymous, right?
• 37:35
  Everybody looks the same.
• 37:37
  And we see the powers that be really like, OK,
• 37:40
  we need to start manufacturing the new man
• 37:42
  to build his back, things are coming.
• 37:45
  Like, Roy Ambracus in Shambles.
• 37:48
  And it's nobody believes it anymore.
• 37:51
  Exactly.
• 37:52
  I loved that point, too, where they were like,
• 37:54
  get this back under control.
• 37:56
  And then we see the news like, you guys need us.
• 37:58
  See?
• 37:59
  See, look at all this bad shit that's happening.
• 38:00
  And nobody really wants to see us.
• 38:02
  And everyone's like, yeah, I'm a man.
• 38:05
  Yeah.
• 38:06
  And ultimately, that leads us to the 9th of November 4th,
• 38:12
  leading into November 5th, a year later.
• 38:14
  And they are coming back.
• 38:17
  Evie comes back to be.
• 38:18
  She's left ever and tortured her.
• 38:20
  And she comes back to be.
• 38:22
  And they have this really kind of will
• 38:24
  they want their love story moments throughout.
• 38:27
  Which is quite beautiful.
• 38:29
  I love that it's like a little just hint of romance
• 38:32
  under the movie, right?
• 38:33
  It's not overtly sexual tension romance.
• 38:37
  It's this like respect that they feel for each other
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  throughout the whole movie.
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  And listen, don't torture a woman.
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  Don't kidnap a torture woman to radicalize her.
• 38:50
  Yeah.
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  Listen.
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  Yeah.
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  It-- within the movie, it works.
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  And she absolutely is full in now.
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  She is walking her out without fear.
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  She's got her shaved head.
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  Her old co-workers don't recognize her.
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  She goes back to be.
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  And it's like tonight's your big night.
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  And she is in it.
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  It is her job.
• 39:10
  Well, sort of.
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  So I think it's kind of interesting.
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  So basically, at the--
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  at this moment, he's planned everything.
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  Everything is in place to blow up Parliament.
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  He's taken over like an old subway station
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  that they actually shut down.
• 39:25
  It's within the quarantine zone.
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  And he tells her that it's up to the next generation
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  to fix this.
• 39:31
  Yeah.
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  My generation is what is wrong and has ultimately
• 39:35
  set the stage, right?
• 39:37
  But it is a board decision if you want to do this, right?
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  I have everything.
• 39:43
  I have the explosives.
• 39:45
  Yep.
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  If you want to pull the lever on this train
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  and send it to Parliament, do it.
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  Yes.
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  If you don't--
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  He's leaving it.
• 39:50
  No problem.
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  Totally up to her, which is just so--
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  he already knew he was going to die.
• 39:56
  He told her, nope.
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  This is where I'm ending here.
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  I'm done.
• 40:01
  She tries to convince him not to basically throw away his life.
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  But he's like, I'm a symbol.
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  Now it's up to, like you said, the next generation
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  to carry this on.
• 40:11
  Once we get through tonight, and Parliament is blown up,
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  she asks some in the beginning.
• 40:16
  You really think blowing up a building
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  is going to change everything.
• 40:20
  And he's like, this is a symbol.
• 40:22
  This isn't uprising.
• 40:23
  Yep.
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  They kill the chancellor.
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  They kill the chancellor.
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  They ultimately kill me.
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  Yes.
• 40:31
  They do.
• 40:31
  V does die.
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  He comes back to her.
• 40:35
  He spends his dying moment with her.
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  She kisses the mask.
• 40:39
  No, it's so cute.
• 40:40
  As all of this is happening, we see all of the citizens
• 40:43
  of Britain coming out of their houses
• 40:45
  with these guy-fox masses.
• 40:47
  Yeah.
• 40:48
  And masks.
• 40:49
  Masks and foxes.
• 40:50
  And masks.
• 40:51
  And foxes, and foxes, and foxes.
• 40:53
  Yeah, with these guy-fox masks.
• 40:54
  And they are marching in the street.
• 40:56
  We see also really kind of what we saw in DC, in America,
• 41:01
  happening where the US military, the British military,
• 41:06
  at this time, is all set up to stop these counter protests.
• 41:11
  They are lining streets.
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  But they're getting no order.
• 41:13
  They're lining pockets.
• 41:14
  Because everyone's dead.
• 41:15
  Yeah.
• 41:16
  Because everyone is dead, ultimately.
• 41:18
  V has stopped this.
• 41:21
  They don't receive any orders to shoot, to stop, to subdue.
• 41:27
  So they just have to let the power protestors on through.
• 41:30
  Well, the military ultimately makes a choice.
• 41:33
  I think if one person had fired, it would
• 41:36
  have set off a chain of events.
• 41:38
  That's true.
• 41:39
  I didn't think about that.
• 41:40
  They're standing perfectly still, because they don't
• 41:42
  have orders.
• 41:43
  But I think they made that choice.
• 41:46
  They see the mob of people walking towards them,
• 41:48
  all wearing the exact same mask.
• 41:50
  And at that point, you're like, well, God, I don't know who's
• 41:52
  who.
• 41:53
  I don't know who's a child.
• 41:54
  I don't know.
• 41:55
  Yeah.
• 41:55
  Exactly.
• 41:56
  We're not getting any orders.
• 41:58
  And they're so used to following orders at this point
• 42:01
  that they're like, can they even function without being
• 42:04
  told what to do?
• 42:05
  Spoiler.
• 42:06
  Ultimately.
• 42:07
  The element blows up.
• 42:08
  Yeah.
• 42:09
  As V dies in EV's arms, she puts him onto the train, but have
• 42:16
  all the explosives, and pulls the lever, right?
• 42:19
  I also love that the cop who's been trying to catch them
• 42:22
  the whole time, we slowly see him realizing
• 42:25
  throughout the movie that the government is corrupt, the
• 42:28
  government's the one who planned all of the attacks and all
• 42:31
  of the diseases in order to gain control.
• 42:34
  And he has the opportunity to shoot EV.
• 42:37
  And he doesn't.
• 42:39
  He's just like, you know what?
• 42:40
  Yeah.
• 42:41
  So stop it off.
• 42:42
  Yeah.
• 42:43
  Yep.
• 42:44
  And he doesn't.
• 42:45
  He lets her do it because he realizes, you know what?
• 42:47
  This is our governments.
• 42:49
  Yeah.
• 42:50
  You know, we need there needs to be a change, essentially.
• 42:51
  Yeah.
• 42:52
  And I think this movie is just so beautiful.
• 42:54
  Like we've talked about a lot of the different themes with
• 42:57
  it, but yeah, I mean, you look at power and tyranny, like the
• 43:02
  individual versus the state.
• 43:04
  And I think that there's so many good moments within this movie
• 43:08
  that we can call back to the past, the present, and hopefully
• 43:12
  not our future, but 100%.
• 43:15
  Just, you know, complicity versus complacency, right?
• 43:18
  The film is critical, not just on the regime, but also people
• 43:21
  who let it happen and just sit by, right?
• 43:24
  So EV represents ordinary citizens who stay quiet out of fear
• 43:29
  and then eventually break out of that passivity, right?
• 43:32
  And it's normal to be afraid and not
• 43:33
  to do in the face of people who might kill you, right?
• 43:37
  But it's just the collective power that we all have when we
• 43:40
  join forces, we can really make these changes.
• 43:43
  It's up to us to save us at the end of the day, right?
• 43:46
  Because the powers that we aren't going to do, whether they're
• 43:49
  the ones who are doing all of this, they're the ones who are
• 43:52
  manufacturing all of the disasters and making us all scared
• 43:57
  and complacent and falling back on, oh, OK, OK, god, I
• 44:01
  don't want to die.
• 44:02
  But yeah, at the end of the day, no one's going to save us.
• 44:06
  I think this movie is so beautiful because ultimately,
• 44:10
  it's the statement of ideas are the ultimate weapon.
• 44:14
  And what the film is trying to say here, governments
• 44:18
  can kill people, but they can't kill an idea.
• 44:21
  And symbols mean a lot, right?
• 44:23
  And so it's really asking what is our moral obligation
• 44:27
  to each other?
• 44:28
  And I think that's exactly--
• 44:29
  Exactly.
• 44:29
  --that's quite beautiful.
• 44:30
  And yeah, I mean, I think we've talked quite a bit about the movie.
• 44:34
  It's all from the symbols within it.
• 44:37
  But do you want to talk a little bit about what we might get
• 44:39
  for a--
• 44:41
  Yes, per vendetta world?
• 44:43
  So it looks like, as of now, that a TV show is in development
• 44:47
  at HBO.
• 44:49
  It will be produced by DC Studios, James Gunn,
• 44:52
  and Peter Safran.
• 44:54
  The project is a new adaptation of the Alan War graphic novel
• 44:58
  with writer Pete Jackson, not Peter Jackson, attached to the series.
• 45:03
  So it is set in the dystopian future,
• 45:05
  Britain.
• 45:06
  Maybe it'll be more accurate or closer to Alan
• 45:10
  Moore's original piece because it is a series.
• 45:13
  They have more time.
• 45:14
  I really hope they show the initial days and how it felt.
• 45:21
  Like how the Britain we know today felt.
• 45:24
  Exactly.
• 45:25
  I loved that about when I stopped watching Handmaid's Tale
• 45:29
  because it just fell too close to home.
• 45:32
  But when I first watched it, I really
• 45:34
  liked how it showed the initial downfall of the United States.
• 45:38
  And that--
• 45:39
  what is it?
• 45:40
  A lobster boiling in water doesn't know that it's dying until it's too late.
• 45:45
  So they just slowly keep turning the heat up.
• 45:48
  And one day the government falls, and then, OK, we're in fascism.
• 45:52
  Oh, yep.
• 45:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 45:55
  So yeah, such a beautiful movie.
• 45:58
  Yes.
• 45:59
  So I hope that the HBO series happens.
• 46:02
  And I hope that it's really good.
• 46:03
  James Gunn is great.
• 46:05
  He can do serious work and more goofy works.
• 46:08
  I hope they lean into the series here.
• 46:11
  And overall, I really recommend this movie to anybody.
• 46:15
  It's anti-fascist as fuck.
• 46:17
  It is a warning against authoritarianism
• 46:20
  and the creeping fascism that kind of resonates strongly
• 46:23
  today.
• 46:24
  And what--
• 46:25
  once, like you mentioned, Olivia felt like a dystopian scenario
• 46:29
  that'll never happen is stuff that's kind of we see creeping slowly
• 46:34
  in.
• 46:34
  So this is my favorite movie of all time.
• 46:37
  Anytime anyone asks me what my favorite movie is,
• 46:40
  it is V for Vendetta, and has been for the last 20 years.
• 46:45
  So I think that is going to wrap us up.
• 46:47
  I really think-- even though we said the entire plot here,
• 46:51
  if you haven't seen it, please watch it.
• 46:53
  It's beautiful.
• 46:55
  And if you haven't watched it in a while,
• 46:56
  like we haven't, I haven't watched it in years,
• 46:59
  even though it's my favorite, just because it is so relevant.
• 47:05
  Sometimes you're like, I don't know if I can do it.
• 47:07
  But--
• 47:07
  Spooky.
• 47:08
  Rewatch it.
• 47:08
  Rewatch it.
• 47:10
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