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Spiritual Taffy Pull: My Ongoing Battle with Stubborn Soul Pairs · The Unity Code - Where Science Meets Energy, Consciousness, and Spirit.

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to empower your soul.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: There is something that has been happening energetically with me in my readings lately and I wanted to talk about it because it's so interesting.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: And actually I just I got a voice memo from another medium today who said the same thing is happening to her, the same thing, and so let's try to deconstruct this.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know about this, but I'm hoping this episode produces a fuck you moment for me so that I can understand it.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: But here's essentially what is happening in my readings is that souls are coming in together.
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: And when I say together, normally when my client tells me that hey, like aren't, aren't Bob Barb and Aunt Jo, cool, no problem, I can tend to separate them and read them separately.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: And this is a, this is like a me problem, because I know I can't necessarily like there's something about the energy of spirit where they show I have consistently gotten more than one spirits.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: My entire fucking development and like this is wild for me because I had so many teachers not just one many teachers who told me only one spirit will show up, only one spirit will show up.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: If more than one shows up, you're wrong, it's only one spirit and I can.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: I can say, without a doubt, that I have gotten two spirits pretty much my entire mediumship practice career.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: And when I say that, like way before, like I was in my beginner's class getting two people, that would be together right.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: And most of the time when I get multiple spirits they're balled up together and I know I get it.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of the other teachers and, honestly, mediums I really love and look up to.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of them would say that's not true, you only have one.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: And I can say without a fucking doubt no, I don't.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: I can say it because when I pull them apart and I see the energy and like this even happens on TikTok lives, when I, when I can't, when I'm getting down to two people or like two people in the comments that are like and I'm like you know what fuck this?
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: I'll just read both of you and then and then they feel them separate and they become two different fucking spirits.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: So I know, without a doubt, that these spirits come in like one and this has happened over and over again.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: So what does it look like when I have multiple spirits come in and there's so many amazing classes out there that are like this is how you deal with it.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: I haven't found a single fucking class that can figure out my problem at all.
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: So apparently I'm supposed to teach it somehow or another.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: But I have multiple spirits and the best way I can describe it is they come in like a ball.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, visually, sometimes I see when spirits come in.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: They tend to come in and I can kind of usually see them not always or they might have an energy and there might be a clear cognizance, and I'll just start talking.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: So I don't always see them, and a lot of times spirits will come in the way that they look in the spirit world, which is like this energetic ball of light Okay, I'm working with a ball of light, everybody.
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: So when these spirits come in and there's only one ball of light, everybody.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: So when these spirits come in and there's only one ball of light.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: But the information can't be placed to one person, my client will inevitably say it sounds like my two aunts, and at that point I will tend to pull them apart and read the spirit separately.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: And what happens when I pull them apart?
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: I put one on each shoulder, one on each side of me, and then I can feel what direction the spirits coming from and that's, that's hunky dory, that's fine and dandy.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: And then I'm able to really kind of I'm going to say like read them one at a time, so I end up like pulling them apart, and then I'll read on Joe and then I'll read on Barb.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll politely ask who wants to go first.
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they still fight, but either way I'll kind of read them one at a time and give the evidence and the message from each of them.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Occasionally they'll start yelling at each other, talking to me at the same time, so I'll jump in back and forth between the two.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: It's usually a hilarious antics, especially if you're doing this, live in a demonstration, and it's generally a good time.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: So I can see why spirit wants to send me multiple spirits at a time.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: It's entertaining.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: It's great to see your medium, fucking, failing, flailing, foradian slip right there.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: Not really, um, but I, but you see, like for me, I'm like I'm failing, right there's, there's my spirit mic drop right there.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: That's the fuck you moment.
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: Um, I feel like I'm failing and flailing and they're having a grand old time.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: They're like well, look at her, how I could?
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: And like I, I don't know, my asshole self says like they can't do it.
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: So why am I judging me?
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: But you know, this is, these are the, this is my verbiage, these, these are the conversations I have in my own head and I don't know why, but I feel like really just rubbing my eyebrows today.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: Welcome to my weird world everybody.
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: So there is.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: When I pull them apart, it tends to go fine, right Again.
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: There might be some fun antics, scenarios jumping back and forth between the two, but generally I'm very successful once I'm able to pull them apart.
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: What has been interesting as of late is that they won't pull apart, and I don't know what the fuck to do about this, because I will have.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: For example, I will pull in a mom and dad and then what will like?
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: Just if someone has experiences and knows what the fuck is happening, that would be great.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: But I'll pull in mom and dad.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: They'll come in together, and how I know they come in together is that I'll say things and she's like well, that's really mom and that's really dad, because I'll get lung cancer, I'll get smoker and dad died of lung cancer and mom was the smoker, right.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: So it's things that are very black and white.
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: I can't fuck this up, um, so I'll try to separate them and I'll seemingly separate them and then they look like fucking jelly taffy, whatever sticky thing that ends up back together.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: My kids have a lot of slime and stuff like that, but they'll end up scooping back together after I pulled them apart and I'm like what the fuck are you doing?
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: Stay separate.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: And they were like no.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm just like at that point I should kick them out.
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: I don't, I'm not a big fan of kicking out spirits, but at that point I should have been like get lost, I'm not playing this fucking game, do it my way or don't.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: But there's some reason.
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: And and my girl raelle, you haven't met her yet.
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: She's amazing.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: She's gonna be on this thing eventually.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: Um, she's amazing.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: And and when I talked to her about this, she's like why don't?
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're supposed to read them together?
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm like fucking goes in the face of everything.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: That is not mediumship.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: I get it real.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: I love your perspective because she just god, I love her so much because the you think I have trust in spirit.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: Hers is 10 times more than me.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: She trusts everything.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: I aspire to the level of rail, let's be honest here.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: But she's just like maybe you're supposed to read them together and I'm like I don't want to.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: So I've experimented with that.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: But there are still a lot of souls, a lot of spirits that will come through gelatinous together.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: It's like twin snakes.
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: You can't fucking separate them.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: They go better together.
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: No accident, my son ate all my twin snakes today and I can't separate them for the life of me.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: And so I've gotten to the point where I'm just like, okay, I'm just gonna say it then and we'll just, you have to place it, whether it's mom or dad, and I'm can't do that for you, you're gonna have to do that.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: So and I've only done this on one or two readings and I've caveat this shit out of it and I don't spend a lot of time there because I don't feel like that's what the client wants.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's a demonstration of good mediumship, I don't think it's quality.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: I like I question whether it's ethical, like, am I reading spirit?
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, but but if I can't place who is giving the evidence and the messages, I don't like that.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: It makes me feel uncomfortable as a medium.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm doing my job well and, as I say that, I'm like I really want to give spirit the stink eye there, because now they know my perspective or where I'm coming from and I understand it's probably easier.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: And maybe there's dynamics that are going in the spirit world that I don't fucking understand.
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe, you know, maybe mom's reincarnated and if she comes in alone, of like and I don't believe any of this stuff, but I'm just going to toss it out there Maybe she's reincarnated and she doesn't have all her energy, so dad wants to come and supplement it.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: I have no fucking idea, but either way they're coming in together and they're refusing to get separated.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: So what ends up happening is this mishmash of fucking evidence one for mom, one for dad, one for dad, one for mom and like I can't figure out who's who in my, my client has to figure it out.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: It's so fucking frustrating.
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: So it's happened twice now, um, one on a very important connection, one on a not great like on a not great connection or not.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: I'm, I'm, I'm not a super important it was.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: It was like.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: It was like when I started, like two aunts or two uncles, that.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't necessarily the main contact of the reading, but at the same time I don't know how or why they're doing that and it's driving me crazy and I think I need to really like sit with that and I was hoping, as I'm talking through this, that they were going to give me a little download.
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: I did hear them say they're sorry and they wouldn't do it again.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: So I hope this is the end of it.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I'll keep you posted, but there's just.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with them coming in and wanting to be read at the same time, and maybe that's the compromise I need to get to, because if you so let's just say I'm just going to put it out there.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: If I died and my husband died and, like my daughter went to go get a mediumship reading, we would come in together.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: Like my husband and I have been dating since I was 15.
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a baby.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody, I was a baby.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: He's my ride or die.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: I met him.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: I knew if he was a.
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: It's been him all along, right, I don't really have a life before him, you know, for the most part because I started dating him at 15.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I've spent 35 years with this guy so far, right, I've been married to him for, oh my god, almost 20 years.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: I think we're going on 17 years this year.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't look at me, because genetics did me well with.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: With the crow's feet, no wrinkles.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: But man, do I have bunions, everybody.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: But.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: But like, if someone, if, if my, my daughter went for a reading, yeah, you couldn't fucking separate me from my husband.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: We're the same fucking person, right?
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Like the only difference, you might say, because let's go through the similarities, shall we Like, yeah, my husband's taller, he's got dark hair and hazel eyes.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: I have blue right, but like we both love, we both love Hondas, right?
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Like we both wear camo.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: I wear leopard, I like leopard print, my husband not a fan, right, but we both wear camo, right.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: Like we both like to exercise, we both like to golf.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Like we have a lot of the similar, like we fucking grew up together.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: So we have a lot of the similar things that we've just learned to do together and celebrate and enjoy together.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: So I could completely understand.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: So spirit's literally putting me in my the spirit shoes right now.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: Spirit's literally putting me in the spirit shoes right now.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: So a spirit could complete.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Like I can completely understand how difficult it would be to discern is it me or is my husband?
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Besides, just like I'm a female that's a little shorter, right, and we have different, obviously, family lineages and like he's.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: He's of different descent than I am, from Europe and other places, right, but otherwise I think, like, in terms of most of the things, very similar.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: So I guess maybe that's the MO of this is that some people that have been together for a for a lifetime.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing, we're very different personalities, right, like I'm kind of an asshole, he's he's an asshole, but he's quiet.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I love him.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: He's my ride or die, but but realistically, you know he's he.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: We have a lot of the same strong opinions on things.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: I'm much more likely to run my mouth about it and he's much more likely to keep his mouth shut and do what he wants anyway, right, so there's so many parallels in terms of like our personalities, but like one is it's funny because I'm the Libra and he's a Leo, so like we're both supposed to be outgoing people and he is in right circumstances and I'm in the right circumstances and it's like flip flop there.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: So it's just, it's just interesting because there would be way more similarities than there would be differences.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: But I could completely understand if they say my husband bought a leather couch and I'm like no, I bought the leather couch, right, like, and all they're seeing is a leather couch.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: But we bought it, but I bought it, but he's you know.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: So it was just it's weird.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: It's just weird.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Where am I going to go with this?
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Hang on a second, let me see where spirit wants me to go.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Just give up.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: I will give up then, um so?
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to put my spiritual team on notice.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: Can we not do that if people want to be read?
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: And what's so interesting is that for some readings I will fucking see the spirits.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: I'll be like aunt, grandmother, brother, sister, like I will see them, like they're standing in my room and there's four of them.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Can we do more of that, because that would be great?
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: So those readings are so easy, but everything seems to be much more spirit, spirit based, a lot more of the stupid meme that's going on the internet with like the sounding of like the kids with the microphone where it's like I mean, that's what it's like working with spirit.
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: It's energetic charades.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: You never know what you're going to get, and some days it's really fucking clear, and other times they come in as a ball and I can't separate them and they don't want to be separated.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: So I have to, like read them together and it's complete horseshit.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: So this is welcome to mediumship, everybody.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to fucking mediumship.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: If you have something you're going through mediumistically, something new, give me a shout out.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: I'd love to analyze and dissect it for you and hopefully maybe give you words of wisdom or, if not, fucking commiserate with you.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: That's all I have for today.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Take care, everybody.