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ALLLL About ICE and Immigration · The KFAB Comment Line with Jean Stothert

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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Jean Stothert, and Peyton Highlock, my producer,
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  Speaker 1: is also here this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Peyton.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Jean.
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  Speaker 1: We're just happy in this studio today because it's so
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  Speaker 1: nice out, even though Lucy Chapman put dripping blood all
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  Speaker 1: over our window.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and she has these skeleton hands out there, and
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  Speaker 3: then there's an eyeball that's motioned.
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  Speaker 1: I've noticed all of this. Lucy's been busy decorating this
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  Speaker 1: morning for Halloween. But anyway, it's a great day in
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  Speaker 1: Omaha and we want to thank you for being with
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  Speaker 1: us today.
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  Speaker 2: We want to hear from you. We want to get
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  Speaker 2: your feedback.
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  Speaker 1: We want to hear your comments, concerns, questions, complaints. Anything goes, city, state, national,
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  Speaker 1: the world. And we will have plenty of guests like
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  Speaker 1: we had yesterday. We don't have a guest today. However,
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  Speaker 1: I think we have plenty to talk about. about what
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  Speaker 1: Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hansen said yesterday. We had calls
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  Speaker 1: that were stacked up that we didn't get to. But
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  Speaker 1: you're also going to hear plenty of opinions from me.
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  Speaker 1: But it is your chance to speak up and sound off.
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  Speaker 1: Send your emails to comment at kfab.com. Call us at 402-558-1110.
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  Speaker 1: Or leave us a recorded message on the talkback mic,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll play it on the air.
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  Speaker 2: But we're happy that you are with us today.
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  Speaker 1: And I love doing this, but I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to say, Scott Voorhees made a mistake. Our dad, Scott,
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  Speaker 1: he made a mistake this morning, and he did say
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  Speaker 1: that Lynn Waltz was going to be on our show, Peyton, today.
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  Speaker 1: And that is next Tuesday, the 13th, is when she's
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  Speaker 1: going to be on. Hopefully, as she did say, that
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  Speaker 1: they will get her in the studio. So that'll be
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  Speaker 1: a fun interview. I want you all to listen. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to ask her the hard questions like I ask
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, including Governor Pillen. And you then make your
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  Speaker 1: decision on who you think should be elected in this
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  Speaker 1: election that.
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  Speaker 2: Is four weeks from today.
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  Speaker 1: And what is so important, as I have said from
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning, is that people are informed, people understand
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  Speaker 1: who these candidates are, what they stand for, where the
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  Speaker 1: truth is, where the truth isn't, because honest to gosh,
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  Speaker 1: right now, The majority of these commercials that you hear
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  Speaker 1: on the radio and on TV are meant to confuse you.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when– this is when the rubber hits the road,
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  Speaker 1: but this is when campaigns and elections can get so
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  Speaker 1: frustrating because it used to be, boy, if I heard
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  Speaker 1: it on TV or read it in the World Herald,
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  Speaker 1: it must be true.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And so I want to give the opportunity for– any
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  Speaker 1: of the candidates to come on this show. Like just recently,
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  Speaker 1: we had PJ Morgan from the Douglas County Board. There's
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  Speaker 1: a few more Douglas County Board candidates. Lots of talk
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  Speaker 1: lately that I'd like to have on this show too,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not sure we're going to get to that.
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  Speaker 1: If you didn't hear Scott this morning, there are seven
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  Speaker 1: members of the Douglas County Board right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's Roger Garcia. I'm going to go down by their district. One, two, three, four.
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  Speaker 2: Roger Garcia, one. Jim Cavanaugh, two. Chris Rogers, three.
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  Speaker 1: P.J.
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  Speaker 2: Morgan, four.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Fahey is five. Marianne Borgeson, six. And John Friend
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  Speaker 1: is seven. However, Jim Cavanaugh in two is not running again.
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  Speaker 1: He's not running again. Marianne Borgeson in six is not
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  Speaker 1: running again. And District 2, Douglas County District 2, Jim
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  Speaker 1: Cavanaugh's seat, there's one person that's unopposed, Whitney Hanson. She's
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  Speaker 1: been getting a lot of media lately. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about her maybe tomorrow. But also PJ Morgan now
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  Speaker 1: is unopposed in four, so he will be reelected. And
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  Speaker 1: then Marianne Borgeson's, there are two candidates in that race too.
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  Speaker 1: This is important. Douglas County Board, so many people. really
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  Speaker 1: don't even know who their Douglas County Board members are.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to have PJ Morgan on
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  Speaker 1: last week, because I wanted to talk what the main
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  Speaker 1: responsibilities of the Douglas County Board was. And I really
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  Speaker 1: stressed when PJ Morgan, former mayor, boy, he's had just
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  Speaker 1: an incredible career as far as politics and business go.
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  Speaker 1: But I said, you know, I wanted to make sure
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  Speaker 1: people understand that the Douglas County Board, they're policymakers. They're
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  Speaker 1: not lawmakers. Lawmakers are the Omaha City Council. They can
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  Speaker 1: make laws. The Douglas County Board cannot. But I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that people understood what their authority was.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things that PJ said, and we
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  Speaker 1: know now by talking to Sheriff Aaron Hansen yesterday, that
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  Speaker 1: one of the responsibilities of the Douglas County Board is
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  Speaker 1: to run the jail. Now, keep in mind, Douglas County
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  Speaker 1: Corrections is downtown.
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  Speaker 2: That is our jail.
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  Speaker 1: At any given time, there can be up to 1,000
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  Speaker 1: people that are held in that jail.
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  Speaker 2: It is big. It is a big area.
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  Speaker 1: And when we have hardened criminals that are being prosecuted,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, Nico Jenkins, Dr. Anthony Garcia, and many others,
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  Speaker 1: they were held in Douglas County Corrections. That is the jail.
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  Speaker 1: The city of Omaha does not have a jail. So
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  Speaker 1: the city of Omaha, Omaha Police Department, uses Douglas County Corrections. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I want to make this very, very clear because it
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  Speaker 1: came out. Very clear yesterday was Sheriff Aaron Hansen. He
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  Speaker 1: does not run the jail, okay? He said yesterday that
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  Speaker 1: with this case that we just talked about that happened
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon with Jose Ortega Romero and how he
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  Speaker 1: ran a red light. He was an illegal, ran into
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  Speaker 1: a 70-year-old man's car and killed him. And he went
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  Speaker 1: through how they contacted ICE, Douglas County Sheriff's Department contacted ICE.
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  Speaker 1: ICE then contacted them a little bit later on, shortly
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  Speaker 1: after midnight that day. This happened almost 4 o'clock in
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon. Douglas County Sheriff's Department got contacted right after
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  Speaker 1: midnight and said he had posted Bond. He was despite
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  Speaker 1: on a 48-hour hold from ICE, but since he posted Bond,
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  Speaker 1: they said they were told they had four hours to.
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  Speaker 2: Either pick him up or he would be released immediately.
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  Speaker 1: When I questioned Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hansen, it came
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  Speaker 1: very clear, which I will tell you the truth, I
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  Speaker 1: was not aware of, that Douglas County Board running the
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  Speaker 1: jail has made a decision that they will not cooperate
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  Speaker 1: with ICE.
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  Speaker 2: They will not.
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  Speaker 1: So that essentially makes, because of that decision by the
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  Speaker 1: Douglas County Board, that makes Douglas County a sanctuary county.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to make that clear. I said all
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  Speaker 1: the time when I was mayor, the city of Omaha,
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  Speaker 1: which is in Douglas County, but as long as I
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  Speaker 1: was mayor, the city of Omaha would not be a
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  Speaker 1: sanctuary city. And my interactions were obviously with the Omaha
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  Speaker 1: Police Department and the chief and the deputies with Omaha Police,
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  Speaker 1: not the Douglas County Sheriff's Department.
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  Speaker 2: They're under the county.
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  Speaker 1: Although Sheriff Hansen is elected, Don Klein is elected Douglas
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  Speaker 1: County attorney. But my interaction with the Omaha Police Department
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  Speaker 1: and with Todd Schmader, the agreement was, is that they
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  Speaker 1: would work in collaboration with ICE. They are not ICE agents,
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  Speaker 1: the Omaha Police Department. They do not go door to
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  Speaker 1: door checking legal status. If somebody is speeding and they
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  Speaker 1: pick them up, they do not check legal status.
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  Speaker 2: If a crime has been committed, they do.
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  Speaker 1: Check legal status and they work in collaboration with ICE,
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  Speaker 1: but they are not That's what my position was and
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  Speaker 1: that's what the Omaha Police Department position was. I was
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  Speaker 1: a bit surprised to find out that the Douglas County
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  Speaker 1: Board has made a decision not to cooperate.
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  Speaker 3: With ICE.
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  Speaker 1: Therefore, this man, Sunday afternoon, that killed somebody that was illegal,
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  Speaker 1: did not have a driver's license, he was on an
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  Speaker 1: ICE hold, but after he posted bond, they gave him
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  Speaker 1: four hours to pick him up or he would be released.
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  Speaker 1: And then I brought up a case in the past
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  Speaker 1: that I think we all knew about, and that was
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  Speaker 1: with Mayha golly, that was several years ago. That was
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  Speaker 1: in 2016, I believe, who killed 21-year-old Sarah Root while
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  Speaker 1: his car crashed into her while he was driving drunk.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, as soon as he posted bond, he
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  Speaker 1: was out.
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  Speaker 2: Of the country.
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  Speaker 1: And you could bet that the same thing would have
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  Speaker 1: happened with Ortega Romero if that is the case. Luckily,
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  Speaker 1: that the Douglas County Sheriff and Department had the Nebraska
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  Speaker 1: State Patrol and Sarpy County government for their partnership in helping,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, to keep our community safe, definitely. And
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  Speaker 1: they were able to pick up Ortega Romero. And so
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  Speaker 1: they have him in custody because both the Nebraska State
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  Speaker 1: Patrol and Sarpy County government has agreed, like the city
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  Speaker 1: of Omaha had agreed, to work in collaboration with ICE. Again,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're ICE agents, but that means if
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  Speaker 1: they have somebody on an ICE hold to be detained,
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  Speaker 1: they will cooperate with them. This is really– I want
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  Speaker 1: to know what everybody really has to think about this. Again,
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  Speaker 1: there's an election coming up. There are three people. on
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  Speaker 1: the Douglas County Board up for re-election.
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  Speaker 2: P.J.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan will get re-elected because he now is unopposed. But
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  Speaker 1: we really have to look at these. Sometimes these are
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  Speaker 1: even considered down-ballot candidates. People don't even really pay much
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  Speaker 1: attention to the Douglas County Board. But these are important positions, too.
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  Speaker 3: Something that I would just like to acknowledge as well,
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to a sanctuary city, is there's no
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  Speaker 3: legal definition of a sanctuary city. There's no proclamation that
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  Speaker 3: you have to make in order to be considered one.
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  Speaker 3: And what Eugene and Sheriff Aaron Hansen alluded to yesterday
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  Speaker 3: is maybe the city of Omaha hasn't come out and said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're a sanctuary city, but it's the actions. No, not
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  Speaker 3: the city of Omaha.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is the actions from the county
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  Speaker 3: board make you start to scratch your head and say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: is this becoming a sanctuary city because of the actions
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  Speaker 3: of the board, not because of a proclamation from anybody?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And it's, you know, a sanctuary city is, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you said there's no actual category, I guess is what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, Peyton. But there is a definition of a
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  Speaker 1: sanctuary city. And a sanctuary city is a municipality that
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  Speaker 1: limits or denies its cooperation with national government in enforcing
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  Speaker 1: immigration law.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is about.
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  Speaker 1: So a city is either going to work in cooperation
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  Speaker 1: with national government, which includes ICE, which is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as we know, immigration's custom enforcement. That's what they're there for.
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  Speaker 1: Or they will say, we will not. The question is,
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  Speaker 1: if they say we will not, are they following the law?
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  Speaker 1: And what does that mean for you? I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: does that mean for you if we try to explain
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  Speaker 1: what a sanctuary city is and to say the county
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  Speaker 1: you live in? will not cooperate with the federal government
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  Speaker 1: on this issue.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: If anyone in the county is listening and anybody in
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  Speaker 1: the county disagrees with me, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Them on the show.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I welcome them on the show to talk
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  Speaker 1: about what their position is and what their position is
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  Speaker 1: with the jail. And to say that even if they
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  Speaker 1: are on a 48– now, even that's not long. A
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  Speaker 1: 48-hour ice hold or detainment is not long. But to
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  Speaker 1: get a call at midnight and say you got four
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  Speaker 1: hours to pick this guy up, he posted bond, or
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  Speaker 1: we're letting him out and he killed somebody? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is something that I think we need to pay
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  Speaker 1: a lot of attention to. And does this make our
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  Speaker 1: city and our county safer if we do work? Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, with ICE and the federal government now, of course,
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  Speaker 1: bad rap with politics right now towards ICE. Bad rap
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  Speaker 1: in politics now towards the police. I mean, there are
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  Speaker 1: many that are saying we need to defund and disassemble
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  Speaker 1: our police departments, get away from our prisons. We need
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of them all. I mean, that is
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  Speaker 1: being said out there. And I will tell you this
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  Speaker 1: right now. You cannot, absolutely cannot have a safe city
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  Speaker 1: without law enforcement.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot. You cannot.
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  Speaker 1: And so for these people that are out there saying
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  Speaker 1: disassemble and defund all the police department across the country
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  Speaker 1: and just have social workers work, well, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: a utopia, in a perfect world, even that, I doubt it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to have some sort of law enforcement. Laws
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  Speaker 1: are there to follow, and you need someone to help
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  Speaker 1: enforce those laws, and people every single day break those laws.
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  Speaker 1: Some don't hurt you. Some, Peyton, if somebody's going 10
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  Speaker 1: miles over the speed limit, they're breaking the law. But
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  Speaker 1: does that really– has that hurt you?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody might have had two drinks and is driving. Did
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  Speaker 2: that hurt you?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: But could it? Yes. And it could kill you too.
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  Speaker 1: And I think when we find out– if you were
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  Speaker 1: a member of this 70-year-old gentleman that got hit on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon on a beautiful day driving in his– His
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  Speaker 1: Portia probably retired and is just living the dream. If
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  Speaker 1: you are his family, can you imagine the grief they're
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  Speaker 1: going through now?
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  Speaker 3: Couldn't even imagine. And you asked Gene for some comments
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  Speaker 3: you wanted to hear from the listeners, and here it is.
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  Speaker 3: Let's fire off some phone calls here on this segment.
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  Speaker 3: Gene Stothert, host of the KFAB Comment Line, 402-558-1110. Chuck,
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  Speaker 3: welcome to the KFAB Comment Line. You are live with
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  Speaker 3: Gene Stothert.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Chuck. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning. You asked for comments on ICE. I've got
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  Speaker 5: some for you.
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know if you were in West Omaha
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  Speaker 5: when these two ICE agents with masks went to a
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  Speaker 5: West Omaha restaurant and tackled some guy in front of children,
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  Speaker 5: in front of families having their dinner. These people were
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  Speaker 5: thugs that were in there. They were ICE agents. Nobody
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  Speaker 5: really knew who they were.
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  Speaker 3: They were.
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  Speaker 5: If you've studied history about Germany and the Gestapo, that's
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  Speaker 5: kind of what it is. Okay, you weren't there. There
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  Speaker 5: were a lot of people there with children. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't there. The other example I have for you
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  Speaker 5: is South Omaha Packinghouse. Women working there with green cards
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  Speaker 5: that have families that have worked there for 20 years
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  Speaker 5: have ICE go in there arrest them, having no clue
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  Speaker 5: whether they're legal or not, and they take them to
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  Speaker 5: Cornhusker Clink. I don't know if you read the World Herald,
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  Speaker 5: but you would have seen the picture of 40 of
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  Speaker 5: these women that were in chains around their legs with
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  Speaker 5: striped outfits on, and they were taking photos of these people,
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  Speaker 5: making fun of them, demonizing them, how you are demonizing
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  Speaker 5: immigrants right now. I know other people, white people, who
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  Speaker 5: have killed people driving. It's called manslaughter. It's a type
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  Speaker 5: of murder. They posted bombs. They went home. They were
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  Speaker 5: not deported. They were treated under the Constitution. So this
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  Speaker 5: is the kind of rhetoric you're promoting. And when you're
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  Speaker 5: supporting ICE, This is what you're supporting, I have to
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  Speaker 5: tell you. And there are a lot of moral issues
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  Speaker 5: involved in this. They also killed two people up in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: And the ICE people say, we have immunity. And the
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  Speaker 5: Justice Department says the authorities cannot get any information regarding
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  Speaker 5: the shootings. They don't want anyone to be prosecuted. Our
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  Speaker 5: president has actually said these people have immunity. Complete immunity.
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  Speaker 5: And you're fine with people working with ICE in this community.
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  Speaker 5: Do you understand why the county board doesn't want to
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  Speaker 5: do that?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Chuck, thank you for your comments.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate them. Obviously, you and I don't see eye to
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  Speaker 1: eye on this. Number one, I'm not demonizing immigrants.
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  Speaker 4: Period.
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  Speaker 1: This is a country of immigrants, and I welcome immigrants legally.
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  Speaker 1: I would not use the word demonize, but if you
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  Speaker 1: want to use the word demonize, I would demonize anybody, black, white,
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  Speaker 1: or brown, that drives a car and kills somebody on
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  Speaker 1: a Sunday afternoon. And, I mean, and is here illegally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would like to ask Chuck, do you
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  Speaker 1: think it is okay, Chuck, if you're still there, do
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  Speaker 1: you think it is okay that illegal.
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  Speaker 1: Immigrants, no matter where they're from, are coming into this
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  Speaker 1: country by the millions. Are you okay with that is
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  Speaker 1: what I want to ask you. Are you okay with
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  Speaker 1: people doing things that are illegal? You brought up two instances.
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  Speaker 1: One in West Omaha, you brought in front of the
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  Speaker 1: children in the restaurant. You brought up another one. You
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  Speaker 1: brought up Minnesota too. Okay, these are instances that I
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  Speaker 1: will say, these are immigration officers behaving badly. We have
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  Speaker 1: police officers that behave badly too.
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  Speaker 2: At times, all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: So does that mean that we should get rid of
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  Speaker 1: all police officers? We have teachers that behave badly all
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  Speaker 1: over the country, that have relations with kids they shouldn't have, etc.
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  Speaker 1: Should we get rid of all teachers? Should we demonize them?
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying that there are bad actors. There are bad
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  Speaker 1: doctors and nurses out there, too. There are bad actors
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  Speaker 1: in every profession today. But should we demonize ICE then?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we could turn it around. You
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  Speaker 1: said I'm demonizing immigrants. You're demonizing ICE. Do you feel
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  Speaker 1: the same way about police?
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  Speaker 3: Chuck is not on the line.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's not on the line anymore. He's probably mad
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  Speaker 2: at what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But these are instances that he is bringing up that
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  Speaker 1: people continue to bring up about ICE. But keep in mind,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: ICE is Immigration Custom Enforcement. That's why they are there
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: for the federal government. If we have had some bad
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: actors and we have had some bad actors, I'm not
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: denying that. But what I am saying is then take
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: care of the bad actors. What can we do about
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: taking care of that? One thing I did with the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Omaha Police Department is to make sure that every officer
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: had a body camera on that instantly deployed when they
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: drew their weapons. We did that for every police officer.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: That not only protected the citizen. but it protected the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: police officers. That's what we should do with ICE, in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: my opinion. They don't wear body cameras. They should be
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: wearing body cameras. There are things to do that we
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: can do, the federal government can do, and we could
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: do locally to protect these bad actors. But to say
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that because I said that this illegal on Sunday afternoon
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that blew through a red light and was down in
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Douglas County Correction and was on a 48-hour ice hold.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: He posted bond, and they had four hours. Douglas County
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department, to pick him up or he would be released.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I brought up the same thing about what happened in
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: 2016 with Sarah Root and Eswin Meja.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: He left the country.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: And just to clarify, I did get an email here,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: comment at kfab.com from Brian. Where did it go here?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. This was from Doug, actually. How much was
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: the bond? I believe Aaron Sheriff Hansen said 750 bucks yesterday?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: It seemed like it was... Yeah, I don't remember exactly.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I could ask Sheriff Hansen because I didn't make a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: note on that. But I believed he posted it was
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: about $ 750. $ 750, yeah. Which surprises me that it was that...
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's called... Well, it can be called vehicular homicide.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: It can be called manslaughter. I mean, it depends on
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the aggravating circumstances of what happened. But at the same time,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I guess I want to– if Chuck would want to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: come back on, are you OK– it's not immigrants. It's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: not legal immigrants. But are you OK with people illegally
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: entering our country? I'd like to know that, that you're
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: OK with that. I mean, goodness sakes, I can't go
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: into a foreign country without a passport and under scrutiny,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: but you would be okay, I guess, with open borders
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and to say anybody could come in that wants to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: come in legal or not. And I'm not against immigrants,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but you know what? I have talked and met with
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: tons and tons of legal immigrants that have come into
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: this country, and it makes them angry because they went
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: through the legal process, and it takes a while. But
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: they took the time to go through the legal process
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to make sure that they did what they needed to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: do to be in this country legally. And it makes
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: them angry that other people just come in illegally and
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: nothing is done about.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Them unless they commit a crime.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: But again, we do not– the city of Omaha– The
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Omaha Police Department, they do not go around collecting or
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: checking legal statuses.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They don't go knocking on doors. They aren't ICE agents.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: They are after those that break the law, whether you're black, white,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: or brown.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Gene Stothern in the KFAB comment line here on NewsRadio
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: 1110 KFAB. The phone lines are chuck full. And that's
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: kind of a pun, but... No, they are full.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Chuck.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Chuck. You can send me an email, comment at kfab.com.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: When we come back from break here after a Fox
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: News update, we're going to play rapid fire with these
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: phone calls and get your thoughts and your opinions, your comments, questions,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: and concerns. Coming up next, Gene Stothert and the KFAB
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: comment line. News Radio 1110 KFAB, your host of the show.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: My name is Peyton Highlock, and phone lines are hot today, 402-558-1110. Yes,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: they are.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And please call because we're having a conversation about ICE.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It started with Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson being on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: yesterday about this incident that happened at... 349 on Ida
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Street and Irvington Road on Sunday afternoon of someone that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was illegal, Jose Ortega Romero, blasted through a red light,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: ran into a car and killed a 70-year-old man. We
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: talked about the differences, too, between what a sanctuary city
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: is and with the position that the Douglas County Board
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: has taken, it does make sense. Douglas County, a sanctuary county,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: saying that if they have taken this position, indeed, that
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: they will not work with ICE. I have said for
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the 12 years I was mayor, the Omaha Police Department
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: that I worked with, not that way. I mean, the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Omaha Police Department, they would work in collaboration with ICE.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: They were not ICE agents, and we made that clear.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I want to make it also clear that that the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: term sanctuary city, there is no single federal law that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: creates or defines sanctuary city. I want to make sure
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: people know that. The term is really what I would
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: call a political one and not a legal one. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the entire legal battle about sanctuary cities hinges on what
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the federal government cannot do legally.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Based largely on the U.S. Constitution. So, I mean, people
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: will question, what does that mean? What does that really mean?
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when last week, if you were listening,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: when I had Dan Osborne, candidate for U.S. Senate, on
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the show in the studio, I asked him, did he
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: support a sanctuary city? And he said he was not
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: aware of what that was. And so I think most
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: of us know what that term essentially means. And so
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about today. Do you mean this
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: right here, Gene? Do you believe in sanctuary cities?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Sanctuary cities. To be quite frank, I'm not sure what
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that is. There we go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: You've heard it from Dan Osborne. That's where we're at.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And like I said, head down Osborne on because I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: want you to hear. I want you to listen to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the questions. Same thing with Sheriff Aaron Hansen that was
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: on yesterday. Aaron Hansen and I wouldn't always agree. In fact,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: we'd argue about things, but we still had the same goal,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and that was to keep our city and our county safe.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And I still like the guy. I mean, I support him.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I think he's doing a great job. I want to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: get to some phone calls here. I had a question
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: from Amber that I hope, Jean, you might be able
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: to answer real quick.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: The bond for Jose Ortega Romero, who sets the bond
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: and why is it so low?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: The judge sets the bond and I don't know why
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: it was so low. It was the bond was $ 7, 500.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And of course, all he had to post was 10%
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: of that, which is $ 750, which he did, which does
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: not seem like a lot that potentially he could be
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: charged with vehicular homicide.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And the last part of Amber's question goes on to say,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Are we able ever– wow, I butchered that. Are we
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: able to find out who the judge was?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, we could. I don't know right now offhand who
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the judge was.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: But the answer is yes, you could find out who
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's in public records. He went to court. I mean
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he was– the judge said what the bond would be
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: and he posted the bond. And again, you only have
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to post 10 percent of that bond. So that seems very,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: very low to me and I would like to know
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: why– I would like to know why the judge made
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that decision.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: But I would listen to the judge.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Let's hit the phone lines here. Sam, thanks for holding
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: on for us. You're live with Gene Stothert on KFAB.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Sam.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Morning, Gene.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: You had some good follow-up questions for that moron that
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: called earlier.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Chuck?
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: But one thing you could say is just there's living
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: examples right now where these policies are just complete dumpster fires. L.A., Oakland,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, New York City, Philadelphia, you know.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: And the other thing that is funny is the lefties
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: always preach, we need more affordable housing. Well, moving all
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: these illegals into these cities is the exact reason why
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: there isn't affordable housing. It wasn't affordable to begin with,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: but this exasperated the whole thing. And there's plenty of examples.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: You really don't even have to ask him, what do
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: you think? You think we shouldn't have any police? You
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: should just point to the statistics and the homeless and
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: drug use and everything in all these cities, sanctuary cities,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: and the cost of living and the taxes. And that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: just proof right there. I don't get how we can,
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: like specifically New York, why do they keep... shooting themselves
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: in the foot in electing these bozos.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I have no clue.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Because there's more people with their... My dad always told me,
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: he said, when there becomes more people with their hand out,
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: we're doomed. Then there is not, we're doomed as a nation.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, when you talk about some of these
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: other cities that have taken this real liberal sanctuary city approach,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the crime has risen dramatically. We still in the city
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: of Omaha have a very, very low crime rate. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that's because even though our officers are down about 100
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of what they are budgeted for, they're still doing a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: darn good job keeping our community safe. And that's what
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: law enforcement is there for. Again, you cannot have a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: safe community without law enforcement. One of the things that
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: we did– Todd Schmatter and I did is we first
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: did a pilot, and we had a professional mental health
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: care professional that we did a pilot on on a
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: couple of our precincts that any call that came into 911,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: for example, that had anything to do with DV, with
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: child abuse, with anything that could be a mental health call,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that mental health professional went with the police officer directly.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to that call. But let me tell you, so many
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of those situations are very dangerous. And if I was
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a mayor of the city, I would not want just
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a mental health professional answering these 911 calls of domestic
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: assault with a gun or a weapon. I mean, can
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you imagine, say, a social worker going in and trying
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to deescalate with a 6'3, 280-pound man that has beaten
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: his wife. I mean, that can't be done. Sir, take
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: a deep breath. Take a deep breath.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Right, me too.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And to say, you know, affordable housing, I agree with
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Sam here. Affordable housing is the answer to a few problems.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It is not the answer to every problem. For 12 years,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I know you hate me saying this when I was mayor,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to say it. For 12 years, my
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: number one priority was public safety. Always was, has to be,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: should be every government entity's number one priority, keeping the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: citizens safe. Mayor Ewing's number one priority is affordable housing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And so you see the difference.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Now, I think the taxpayers should be asking Mayor Ewing now,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: is does he want Omaha to be a sanctuary city?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I think that is a question.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: You need to hold your mayor accountable like you held
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: me accountable, like you held Mayor Suttle and Mayor Dobb accountable.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Find out from Mayor Ewing, does he now want the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: city of Omaha to be a sanctuary city? That question
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: should be asked and it should be answered. Going back
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to the phone lines, we have Rick. Rick, thanks for
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: holding on for us. You are live with Gene Stothert
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: on the KFAB comment line.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Good morning, Mayor Stauffer. Hey, I believe you're missing the
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: forest for the trees. And let me say just real quick,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: if everybody remembers during the Biden administration, there was an
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma Republican senator that came up with a very, very
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: strict policy that would change everything to do with immigration.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: And it was going to pass when Trump stepped in
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: and said he wanted them to vote against it because
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: it would be a wedge issue for the election, which
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: it was. But there's some place like this man they
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: just called Chuck and Amora. That's uncalled for because he
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: has a point. There's plenty, plenty of middle ground we
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: can come to. We don't need ice running around with
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: masks and not using warrants to go into housing, that
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: kind of thing. There's some common sense stuff. Instead, we
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: look like, I think the point from the administration is
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: they want to be cruel. That's why they have, doing
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the things that they're doing. And there's so much, nobody
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: wants illegal immigrants in the country, but what we do
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: want is some common sense rules that could have been
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: passed by Congress, except for Trump playing games. So I
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: find it hard when I hear people pushing back so
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: bad against people being upset with ICE because there's so much.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: We just want them to be under the normal rule
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: of law. Take your mask off, use warrants, and I
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: don't think that's asking too much.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Rick, I appreciate your comments. Let me ask you this, Rick.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Do you think that the Democrats have done a better
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: job with immigration then than the Republicans? Because frankly, I
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: think neither party has done a very good job of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: what is happening with immigration. When you said the Oklahoma
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: senator had a plan under Biden, but Trump didn't want it,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: do you think that there would have been something very
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: positive that would have happened in this country about immigration
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: if the Democrats were in control of it?
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yes. The conservative senator out of Oklahoma said it himself,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: that it was by far the strictest we'd ever been
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: on immigration, except it would be uniform in a way that...
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for, some common sense. Instead, we're
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: clear at the extreme where we have young men running
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: around with... unidentified uniforms doing crazy things. And I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: that is by intent. And I think what we need
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: to do is go back to the drawing board because
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: it's through Congress. But I promise you that the Trump
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: administration loves this just as a wedge issue. Just like
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I hear everybody when we see some terrible, terrible, unfortunate
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: thing like that we're talking about with the 70-year-old that
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: got killed. Then they jump all over that, using it
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: as a political thing. And I just, I find it
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: irritating on both sides. So I'd like to hear what, yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Rick, I want to ask you this. Do you believe
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: in border control? Do you believe that our borders should
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: be open and let anybody in that wants to come in?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Or do you believe they should be closed like they
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: are now?
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I believe they, they, we need, Common sense border issues.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: We need immigration in the sense of where we need
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: workers that works to the benefit of our citizens in
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: our country. And that's what the senator of Oklahoma was
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: pushing for. But Trump would rather see it as a
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: wedge issue and did not want the most strict policies ever.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Like he's going in right now that I never hear
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you talk about. They go to people that are legally gay.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: doing what they're supposed to, going to their hearings, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: ISIS snatching them right from their hearings. And they're going
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: into houses without legal warrants, and they do not care
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: about the legality. They just want to put up this
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: image of we're hard on crime, hard on the border.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: But the truth is you can do it so much
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: better with everybody behind it. Well, at least a lot
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: of people behind it.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your call. Yeah, no, I appreciate your call.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I would say that not all ICE agents
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: are going into houses illegally. These things are, I think,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: are rare. And that, like I said, there are some
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: bad actors out there. But you brought up the facts,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: for instance, that they said they're going around wearing masks.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And you said that several times. But do you know
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that the FBI does that, too? I mean, when the FBI,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of times when they're in a fugitive warrant
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: arrest situation. They're doing some of their activities out there
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and trying to find out bad actors are doing, you know, investigations.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: They wear masks, too. And I wouldn't think you would say, well,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: let's get rid of the FBI, too. And so, you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I think you are right. I think that there has
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: got to be some solutions that the federal– immigration is
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a federal issue.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: It's not a local issue.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: And I will say I think both sides, Democrats and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Republicans– have not done a very good job on immigration,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and I think that there needs to be some reform. But,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, it does raise a red flag when you
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: do have something that happened like happened Sunday afternoon and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: find out that that person indeed was illegal. And it
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't make– I'm just not talking about our southern border.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about all of our borders. We're getting terrorists here.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that are coming into this country that hate the United States.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't that scare the pants off you? Because
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it does me. And so, you know, I think that
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: we've really got to look at all of our borders,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and we've got to make sure that we make this
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a priority issue. But I don't think the solution is
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: to say, let's get rid of police, let's get rid
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: of ICE, let's get rid of all our prisons.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: To me, that would end up in anarchy.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Gene Stothert and the KFAB comment line returning next. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: do have some emails here, and then I want to
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: get to some phone calls. Gene, a lot. It's been
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: hot today. So if you want to go back, you
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: missed any of the show today, you can find it
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: on the podcast page at KFAB.com. I got an email
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: from Brian. Where in Nebraska state statues is, quote, sanctuary
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: city or other jurisdiction codified? To my knowledge, it doesn't exist.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: If it's not codified, then it's a made-up concept.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: No, Brian, you are absolutely right. It's not in state statute.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a state law. But as I said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: there's no single federal law that creates or defines a
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: sanctuary city either. And remember, immigration is a federal issue.
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  Speaker 1: It is not a local or a state issue. And
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: so you are correct. There is nothing in Nebraska law. Now,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: as I said before, it is not that term is
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: not a legal term.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: It's it. I called it a political one.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: To say it's more of a descriptive term, I.
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  Speaker 2: Can see that. I mean I would call it descriptive too.
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  Speaker 3: And that follows up an email from Scooter in regards
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: to sanctuary cities. I would say from Scooter, I would
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: say it's more of a descriptive term than a political term.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: The phrase is used broadly in public discourse, media, and
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  Speaker 3: government memorandums to describe local or state jurisdictions that limit
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: their cooperation with federal immigration and enforcement authorities.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And basically, once again, what they are saying is that
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: these cities or these counties will basically oppose any federal
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: sanctuary type policies. And a lot of times what the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: federal stance will be then is they will use funding
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: threats and political pressure to to encourage cooperation for cities.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's a huge issue.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of people will say it reduces trust with
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: law enforcement, but at the same time, you got to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: understand what the laws are that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Govern ICE.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that makes a difference too, because you got
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: to keep in mind, ICE officials, they can't detain anyone
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  Speaker 1: solely based on an immigration detainer without a warrant. And
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: they're not going to get a warrant without a judge,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and they're not going to get a warrant from a
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: judge unless a crime has been committed. So the way
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of people talk is ICE is just out
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: there willy-nilly breaking into houses, arresting people, and that's not
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: what they have the authority.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: To do.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I got an email from Charles that says, who is
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Tom Homan? The same guy under Obama that is doing
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: the job under Trump. Not going to be in favor
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: of removing masks for ICE agents based on how the
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: violent leftists respond. And then Michael says, Just to footnote
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: that email, this one comes from Michael. Tell your leftists
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the ICE agents will go maskless as soon as there's
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: no fear of being doxxed and their families put in
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: danger by radical activists.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, too, when I was talking about
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Douglas County Correction, that is our jail for the county.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: It's our jail for the city.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: But local jails cannot hold individuals on an ICE detainer
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: unless a federal judge has issued a warrant, a federal judge.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And so that sometimes takes time too. So they have–
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: ICE is under certain federal laws and their authority comes
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: from the federal government. So, I mean, you hear of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: some incidences where ICE was behaving badly. And like I said,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I can name a lot of instances where police were
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: behaving badly or teachers were behaving badly or doctors were
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: behaving badly. And so you can't say that– My mom
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: used to say one apple will destroy the whole bushel. Well,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: that's an old saying. But still, you got to address
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the problem where the problem is. Last comment here from
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Matt wrapping up this conversation. I think the funny thing
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: is people don't realize there have been ICE flights in
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: and out of Omaha weekly that have been going on
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: for well over 20 plus years. And there are ICE
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: agents in the city of Omaha now. They're in the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: FBI building. I'm telling you, they're here now and they
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: have been for a long, long time. So that is
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: it for us today. We didn't get to all of
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the calls today. We'll get to them tomorrow, Peyton. We
• 41:22
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• 41:24
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• 41:27
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• 41:30
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• 41:34
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• 41:37
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