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#155: Bonus Episode - The Camp Hamwi Series (Part 3) - Cayden & Grayson · The Healthy Diabetic

• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the Camp Hamway series on the Healthy Diabetic Podcast.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: I am your host, coach Ken Kenness, and, as always, please remember that nothing that you hear on this podcast should be considered medical advice or otherwise.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Please always consult your medical team before making any changes to your diabetes management.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, we got that part out of the way.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Now I also actually I'm sorry.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: I want to also remind you, to make sure you like, subscribe to the podcast.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Some fun fact that the podcast should be now on video form as well.
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: These Camp Hamway episodes most of them will not be on video form because they were recorded on audio before we started transitioning to doing video as well, so you can also find the podcast on YouTube.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: All the links for the video form of the podcast as well will be in the show notes, so that's another really exciting thing that I'm pumped about.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: So, all right, let's get back to the task at hand, which is to introduce you to these two amazing gentlemen that I got to sit down when I was at Diabetes Camp and interview about their diabetes.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: The really cool thing about both of these guys is they're both athletes and I wasn't able to talk to very many people that were participating in athletics during my time recording at Camp Hamway, so I was really excited I got to talk to these two dudes, these two guys, and their stories are really, really cool.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: One of them has diabetes in his family and you're just going to hear a really cool story how these guys met at camp and how they've become close and the fact that they both play soccer together or not together, but they both play soccer.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: So that's something that they really had in common when they both got to camp and met.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: So that's just another example of how powerful going to a camp and increasing or improving getting more people in your diabetes inner circle is.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: So, all right, let's get with Caden and Grayson.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: What's up, fellas?
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: So first thing, give me your names.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: I'm Caden Pokington.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Grace Adams.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, caden, when were you diagnosed?
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: What year is this for you, that camp?
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  Speaker 3: This is my third year at the camp and I was diagnosed March 4th of 2021.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: March 4th of 2021.
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: Raise your hand in the audience if you know the exact day of your diagnosis.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: Does everybody know their exact day?
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: Pretty much Almost everyone.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to raise my hand because I don't remember the exact day, so that's awesome that you remember your exact day.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Tell me the story.
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: What was happening in your life, what was going on?
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I was in the middle of like seventh grade, so obviously like a bunch of school.
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: But I also had a lot of club soccer because my team's, like nationally, had ranked.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: And so we were on the way to like like a tournament like Indiana, but they'd noticed I had been like going to the bathroom a lot and drinking tons of water.
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: So they thinking like before going they think they'd go to the doctor just like make sure nothing's wrong.
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: And the doctor had diagnosed me with type 1 diabetes soon as I got in there because I did like a urine test and yeah and yeah, I was like devastated because I mean, the tournament was out of state so I was down to go.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was on the way the tournament, before the tournament.
• 4:16
  Speaker 3: This was like two days before the tournament.
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: Man, that sucks, I mean I guess in hindsight I would have sucked to go on the trip and not be able to compete either.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so everything works out for a reason.
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: So, hmm, it sucks, man, what?
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: So you said you went to the hospital.
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: I went to like my doctor first, and then they told me I had to go to like the ER, like later, what was your blood sugar?
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: My blood sugar was 588.
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: Man, how'd you feel?
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: Not very good, not at all you weren't in DK, so I was good.
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: I was not no.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: So how long were you in the hospital?
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: I was in the hospital for three days.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what type of education did you get?
• 5:05
  Speaker 3: Like dietary and then like people teaching me about what it is, because I'm the first one in my whole entire family to have diabetes so it's all new to everyone in my family.
• 5:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, it was so unexpected.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so type 1 and type 2 or just type 1.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: Do you have type 2?
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: No, no I'm not I'm not Okay.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because if you would have, if you would ask us to ask medical you know, five, ten years ago everyone you was saying that it's genetic and it's not genetic, because if it's genetic then my brother would have it, my girls would have it now.
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: So it's not genetic, it's caused by a trigger, and so I think that's that's.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, as diabetes has evolved, that we've been able to understand and change our thought processes of not just how we treat it but also the origins of it.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: So it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: So you said how many days were you in the hospital?
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: Three, three days.
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: When you got out of the hospital, how long until you felt like you had a little bit more of a grasp on it.
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm very independent when it comes to it.
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: So from the first day of the hospital, I was doing everything myself because I felt like I had more control of it and I just didn't trust people doing it for me.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: So you really dove into the independence of it.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome, that's awesome man, because a lot of people can't do that, a lot of people don't have that mindset.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: So that's good.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: So you're back playing soccer now.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how is it when you're going to practice compared to when you're going to a tournament?
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  Speaker 2: Do you have different strategies, or how is that going?
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: Practice is just like.
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  Speaker 3: It's not much of a worry because I can tell symptoms and stuff in middle practice.
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: But tournament is a much longer prep because you have to pack more and monitor it more, because you're playing so much more.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have specific times that you've noticed at game one at this time frame?
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: I need to eat something because I'm starting to go low.
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: I usually try to eat an hour and a half before, because that seems like work best for me and keep me out.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Nice, nice, cool man Grayson, how are you?
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: Good, how are you?
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: I'm good man, Tell me your story.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: So I was diagnosed in around September and I think it might have been like September 18th of 2020.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: And so, before I start, my dad's also diabetic, so he played a big part in like the whole.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: Getting me to the hospital before it got too serious.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: But so it was morning I was showing all the symptoms drinking a lot of water, having used the restroom a lot, just all that kind of stuff and my mom decided that he she was like Brian.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: I think you should check his blood sugar because he's showing all the same symptoms that you said that you did when you got diagnosed.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: Just check his blood sugar.
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: See what it is.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: Just to be safe Check that I was around 250.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: So my mom told me that my dad's going to take me to the hospital we did.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: By the time I got there I was around 700.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: And that was only like 30 minutes of driving and I had already gone up like 500.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: Was this after you ate?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but still it's a lot to go up in that small time frame.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but other than that, yeah, it's just.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: Did you have symptoms?
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  Speaker 2: What were your symptoms?
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Using the restroom a lot, drink a lot of water.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: I was like I mean running out of energy really fast.
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  Speaker 1: I was puking more than often.
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  Speaker 1: That was mostly it.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: I was really tired all the time Were you losing weight.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I lost a lot of weight.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: I lost like 20, maybe 30 pounds in a month, if not less.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: That's a lot, man, because you're not a big dude, you're not, you know.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: I was like skin and bones for a good three or four months.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was another thing that led my mom to wanting to check my blood sugar, because, just like being, I mean I'm not big, but I'm not like a small person either.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: So like when she saw how skinny I was, she was like something's up and so yeah, how long did you spend in the hospital?
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: About probably four or five days.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, so that's interesting because that's a different.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: That's different than probably, I think, every single other person that we've talked to so far is.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: Everyone else has spent 24 or 48 hours, maybe 72.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: And you're spending almost a whole week.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason behind that was because it took them like a day or two to even get the diagnosis, because they were so on and off on whether I even had it or not.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which is crazy to me because that you know.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: You said what was your number.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: Like 700.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at 700,.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: I mean that's, you know, that's almost like a no brainer, it's like, okay, do the blood test, let's confirm right now.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: I still don't really know why it Took them that long to get the diagnosis.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: It was pretty straightforward, especially with my dad having it too.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: He was telling them all the time like he has it, there's no going around it, hmm.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: How was uh?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're still in the honeymoon stage?
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Um, I'm not really sure.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, the reason I ask is because, being up that high and Now being in a position where you have pretty good control over it, and then also only being two years ago, we haven't really talked to anybody else yet about honeymoon.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: And if you're in honeymoon and and I think that's a very important piece to understand, because when I am constantly am talking about this concept of understanding what works for you and in let's make no mistake that Our only job is a diabetic the only job that we have is to figure out what works for us and that's going to constantly evolve and change.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: And Honeymoon, I feel like, especially for young people, puts a wrench into that, because you go through this whole diagnosis.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: You go through an emotional thing, you some people go through denial, some people go through the five stages of grief, and that could take a year, two years to three years, it doesn't matter how long that could take.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: And when you go through all of that, when you come out the end, you start to figure out what works for you.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Then your honeymoon ends.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Now things change.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: Then you become a Raging boy, teenager, things are going to change, right.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: So all of these things happen within that process.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: So the honeymoon stage.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: I think is really important to for all of us to understand that it's it's a, it's a gap and when we come on the outside, on the other side of that gap, it's important to understand that piece, because if we don't, then we're gonna Be fighting, you know, nails and teeth of trying to understand Well, I had it figured out why it's not working anymore.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: So that's cool.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: What for both of you?
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: What is one to three things?
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: Or let's back up what?
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: What has been the most impactful thing that you've learned at camp?
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: You both, you both are our friends as well here at camp.
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  Speaker 2: What has that relationship meant to both of you?
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: And what has been a very impactful other impactful things you've learned?
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: I mean definitely fighting the same sport kind of helps in a way, because we're able to like give each other like things.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: That helps in a way and Kind of having someone that's there for you, like that is like really helpful in a way.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Nice About you, grayson.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree with that.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Um, it is nice that, like if I have any questions, like we can both just turn to each other because we both played a similar level and we both obviously have the same disease.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: So it's just nice to know that if I need to ask any questions.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have that support.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: That's awesome and that's good.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: What?
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: What's a piece of something, a piece of advice that you could give to the listeners?
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: And I love this from both of you and I would Want you guys to kind of share maybe some advice you have about playing and competing at a high level, because there's a lot of athletes that listen to this podcast that are struggling with that.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: So that would be my first question for you guys.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: I'd say, take care of it before it's happened, so, like beforehand, kind of prepare yourself.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: Hmm for something that could happen rather than being unprepared.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, love, that being prepared is a really important thing of diabetes, for sure, what you, grayson just keep persevere.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: whenever you feel like, whenever you feel like You're like alone, just think about there's gonna be other people that are going through the same stuff as you, that have maybe even similar lifestyles, and if you just keep going, then like Nothing's nothing bad should happen, hopefully.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you, boys.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: This is great.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I got to talk about the athletic part as well.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: So this, this is awesome.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for jumping on.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.
• 15:44
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• 15:47
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• 15:55
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• 16:09
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• 16:17
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• 16:24
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• 16:28
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• 16:33
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• 16:40
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• 16:44
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• 16:48
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• 16:57
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