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- 0:00Speaker 1: Government is obsessed with micromanaging what you can access for
- 0:03Speaker 1: your own health, obsessing over schedules and regulations, yet at
- 0:06Speaker 1: the same time they refuse to manage the actual invasion
- 0:09Speaker 1: happening at our border. First judged Tedpoe is going to
- 0:12Speaker 1: join me to expose the war plan ice is seen
- 0:14Speaker 1: on the ground and why your local government might be
- 0:17Speaker 1: actually helping the enemy. Then it's going to be case
- 0:19Speaker 1: my Hill breaking down the marijuana rescheduling fight, proving government
- 0:23Speaker 1: is more obsessed and focused on controlling you than protecting
- 0:27Speaker 1: you and your family to disgrace. Let's get into it.
- 0:30Speaker 1: You and I both know, so you talked about it
- 0:31Speaker 1: over the years that it is illegal. It is a crime,
- 0:33Speaker 1: not a civil event. It is a criminal act to
- 0:36Speaker 1: come across the border illegally. It is a criminal act
- 0:39Speaker 1: of felony to be deported and then come back across
- 0:42Speaker 1: the border illegally. Again, during Biden, he decided we treat
- 0:45Speaker 1: it like it was civil and give people tps and
- 0:48Speaker 1: use parole and let anybody in everybody and their mother
- 0:51Speaker 1: come in to this country. Trump is doing his level
- 0:53Speaker 1: best to get back to enforcing the law, and the
- 0:56Speaker 1: Left is every single day pounding in that we're detaining
- 1:00Speaker 1: American citizens, we're deporting Americans. So one poor woman is
- 1:03Speaker 1: an American citizen, she's going to be deported. She's raised
- 1:05Speaker 1: in Louisiana. Where you going to deport her to if
- 1:07Speaker 1: she's from the United States. So ted one side's lying,
- 1:11Speaker 1: the other side isn't. What do you see going on?
- 1:13Speaker 1: You know more about the border than almost anybody I know.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Well, I went down there thirteen times while I was
- 1:19Speaker 2: in Congress, and it was a war zone then and
- 1:22Speaker 2: now as we know, nobody's crossing across the Texas Mexico border. Generally.
- 1:29Speaker 2: It's really pretty simple the way I see it, big picture,
- 1:33Speaker 2: Almost all countries in the world protect their borders except us.
- 1:38Speaker 2: If I wanted to go down to well, pick any country.
- 1:41Speaker 2: This is France. If I want to take my family
- 1:44Speaker 2: over to France, and I would come into France and say, look,
- 1:47Speaker 2: I'm here, take care of me and my family, educatus,
- 1:50Speaker 2: give us free medic that kick us out of the country.
- 1:53Speaker 2: You go to any country that would do that, even
- 1:56Speaker 2: third world countries, which we can't use that phrase anymore.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Somebody protects the border except us. Try going to sound
- 2:04Speaker 2: some of these South American countries or Central American countries
- 2:08Speaker 2: and do what I just said. We wouldn't do that.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Why they'd kick us out of the country. But we
- 2:14Speaker 2: don't do that. And we have been sold to biddle
- 2:17Speaker 2: of goods by the left that we should let everybody in.
- 2:20Speaker 2: And we have seen through history countries that let everybody
- 2:25Speaker 2: in from some other place, that country usually is overthrown
- 2:30Speaker 2: by somebody else. So we want to protect our borders.
- 2:35Speaker 2: We want to just regulate who comes in. We ought
- 2:37Speaker 2: to be able to say no or yes. That should
- 2:40Speaker 2: be our decision. It shouldn't be some left wing professor
- 2:45Speaker 2: at Brown or at some other university saying that this
- 2:47Speaker 2: is the way it ought to be. We ought to
- 2:49Speaker 2: follow the law, and all Ice is doing is following
- 2:53Speaker 2: the law. You don't come to America without permission, end
- 2:58Speaker 2: of story. If you are here illegally, however you got here.
- 3:02Speaker 2: But if you're here illegally, you got to go home. Sorry.
- 3:07Speaker 2: That's just one of the rules to protect the sovereignty
- 3:11Speaker 2: of the United States. And this idea that we should
- 3:14Speaker 2: let everybody in, even if they snuck in, we should
- 3:17Speaker 2: forgive them, take care of them, make sure that they
- 3:20Speaker 2: get pre medical, free schooling, and everything else they want
- 3:23Speaker 2: and allow them to carry signs hating on America. No,
- 3:27Speaker 2: that's wrong. And those on the left who object to that, well,
- 3:32Speaker 2: you know they need therapy, and especially those people who
- 3:37Speaker 2: have come from other countries who are now in the
- 3:39Speaker 2: United States demanding that we allow people to come in
- 3:43Speaker 2: and live off the rest of us doing so illegally.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Let me just say this other thing. The United States legally,
- 3:50Speaker 2: legally let's in over a million people a year from
- 3:55Speaker 2: all over the world that come the right way. And
- 3:58Speaker 2: we know, you know a lot of the people, so
- 4:00Speaker 2: do I. But that's a lot of people. That's more
- 4:03Speaker 2: than all of Europe does in a year. And so
- 4:06Speaker 2: ten years, that's ten million people we let in legally
- 4:09Speaker 2: get in the line for that list, or stay where
- 4:13Speaker 2: you have come from and don't come to the United States.
- 4:15Speaker 1: It is a former representative, former judge, and mathematician. Turns
- 4:18Speaker 1: out ten times a million is ten million. I just
- 4:20Speaker 1: checked it, Ted, So you're right what you just said.
- 4:23Speaker 1: The pretty quick math there, Poe.
- 4:25Speaker 2: So well.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Of the public schools, right, let's talk about Minneapolis. You
- 4:33Speaker 1: have this police chief come out. His name is Brian O'Hara.
- 4:36Speaker 1: He comes out full regalia as if he's really a
- 4:38Speaker 1: law enforcement officer, and he says, if you see people
- 4:42Speaker 1: who are dressed as law enforcement in the city of
- 4:44Speaker 1: Minneapolis grabbing people off the streets, they might not really
- 4:49Speaker 1: be law enforcement. They might be kidnappers. Called nine one
- 4:52Speaker 1: to one, and then Jacob Pry, the mayor of Minneapolis,
- 4:55Speaker 1: walks up and says, the Somali community, by the way,
- 4:58Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, they're all they're all entrepreneurs, they're all our
- 5:01Speaker 1: doctors and our lawyers. Well that then we don't have
- 5:03Speaker 1: them any Minneapolis, I guess. So if you see somebody,
- 5:06Speaker 1: because they're dropping one hundred federal agents into our city,
- 5:09Speaker 1: if you see somebody doing something that looks like excessive force,
- 5:12Speaker 1: or we see somebody doing something that you know is
- 5:14Speaker 1: somehow illegal, call the authorities. They're making all sorts of funds. Now,
- 5:18Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a fund to protect the
- 5:21Speaker 1: Somalis who are hiding or something. They want to open
- 5:24Speaker 1: their businesses tay is any of that legal. Can a
- 5:26Speaker 1: police chief come out and say, called nine one one
- 5:28Speaker 1: on ICE when he knows ICE is in town. Can
- 5:30Speaker 1: the mayor say, do not help ICE and report them
- 5:33Speaker 1: when you see them?
- 5:35Speaker 2: If a person helps another person resist arrest, that is
- 5:40Speaker 2: a crime, and it's a federal crime, and it's also
- 5:43Speaker 2: a local crime. And encouraging people to go out and
- 5:47Speaker 2: bolate the law and fight against ICE to keep them
- 5:52Speaker 2: from doing their legal job, and you're acting illegally, that's
- 5:57Speaker 2: wrong and it's illegal to do that.
- 6:00Speaker 3: You know.
- 6:00Speaker 2: We need to look at the backstory on all of
- 6:03Speaker 2: the Somalia allegations that are taking place in Minnesota and
- 6:10Speaker 2: figure out some of the way people got in here
- 6:13Speaker 2: legally or illegally, and we need to follow us a nation,
- 6:16Speaker 2: need to follow up on that. I believe this is
- 6:18Speaker 2: my personal opinion that the government, the government officials of
- 6:24Speaker 2: Minnesota are given a pass on this. They have known
- 6:27Speaker 2: what's taking place. They don't care. They don't care. They
- 6:31Speaker 2: don't care about the fraud that's taking place and health care.
- 6:35Speaker 2: They don't care because they think it's okay to do
- 6:38Speaker 2: what they do. Well, those people need to get out
- 6:40Speaker 2: of office what they're doing. I think that the federal
- 6:43Speaker 2: government should enforce the rules of immigration and local officials
- 6:47Speaker 2: who are probably making money off of US campaign money
- 6:51Speaker 2: for fighting against the MINO ICE, I think that they
- 6:58Speaker 2: should be held accountable.
- 6:59Speaker 4: Voters.
- 7:00Speaker 2: The voters in Minnesota need to look at what's going
- 7:03Speaker 2: on and see if that's the kind of place they
- 7:04Speaker 2: want to live or whether they don't want to live there.
- 7:07Speaker 1: So well, well, the DOJ wants to see their voting
- 7:09Speaker 1: roles to make sure that voters of Minnesota actually have
- 7:11Speaker 1: a say. I think the franchise probably is being stolen
- 7:14Speaker 1: from some good people in Minnesota and being somehow jockeyed
- 7:17Speaker 1: around with. I hope they we'll get the real story
- 7:18Speaker 1: on that. But when it comes down to it, the
- 7:21Speaker 1: only reason these raids are happening, and Ted, you and
- 7:23Speaker 1: I have talked about this a lot, is because places
- 7:25Speaker 1: like Illinois will not honor four thousand detainers that DHS
- 7:30Speaker 1: ask them to honor, they won't do it. And in Minnesota,
- 7:32Speaker 1: they're not only not honoring detainers, they're now helping people
- 7:36Speaker 1: to not open their businesses. Again, the mayor said, we're
- 7:39Speaker 1: starting a fund to give you money and food and
- 7:42Speaker 1: services so that you don't have to be in the
- 7:44Speaker 1: streets and get picked up by ice. And again Ice
- 7:46Speaker 1: is only picking up people who are here illegally, and
- 7:49Speaker 1: the only reason they're even in town is because Jacob
- 7:52Speaker 1: Fry and the governor of the state. Walls will not
- 7:56Speaker 1: cooperate with DHS, just like JB. Pritzker and Johnson won't
- 7:59Speaker 1: in Illois in Chicago. I mean, that's really the bottom line, right.
- 8:02Speaker 1: If they just said, Okay, here are the bad guys,
- 8:04Speaker 1: leave everybody else alone, ICE wouldn't be doing this.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Well, true, that's what many jurisdictions do. You have some
- 8:11Speaker 2: person that's in a jurisdiction and they're in custody for
- 8:15Speaker 2: a local offense, but they're in the country illegally, and
- 8:19Speaker 2: there's a detainer lodged against them by the federal government.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Will hold that person X number of hours or days
- 8:26Speaker 2: before so federal government can come pick them up safely,
- 8:30Speaker 2: pick them up when they're in a safe position, both
- 8:32Speaker 2: of them are. But Minnesota apparently doesn't want.
- 8:35Speaker 4: To do that.
- 8:35Speaker 2: So what do they do. They let that person go
- 8:38Speaker 2: back into the community and then ICE has to go
- 8:41Speaker 2: track them down and find them and legally then arrest them.
- 8:45Speaker 2: That way, it's better for everybody if the local police
- 8:50Speaker 2: and mayors work with the idea that if a person's
- 8:54Speaker 2: illegally in the country, we're going to help remove them
- 8:58Speaker 2: from the country. But they don't want to do that
- 9:00Speaker 2: because they want him to stay. They think it's we're wrong,
- 9:03Speaker 2: so they don't like the law, so they won't follow
- 9:05Speaker 2: the law. That's basically I think the position of these
- 9:08Speaker 2: local officials and the governors who want to give a
- 9:12Speaker 2: sanctuary for people illegally in the country.
- 9:16Speaker 1: It is a Ted Pogo follow Hm. I judged Ted
- 9:18Speaker 1: Poe over on X. Let's talk about something that I
- 9:21Speaker 1: saw just a little while ago. On X some guy
- 9:24Speaker 1: did a video where he's talking about a thirteen year
- 9:26Speaker 1: old being detained by ice. Now, maybe I don't understand
- 9:29Speaker 1: the laws as well as I thought, but I have
- 9:31Speaker 1: been pulled over a lot in my life. I've got
- 9:32Speaker 1: a little sports cars, and when I get pulled over, oddly,
- 9:35Speaker 1: I'm not an American citizen. Oddly, I'm being detained by
- 9:38Speaker 1: police until the contact with police is over, contact that
- 9:42Speaker 1: I may or may not have instigated with my heavy
- 9:44Speaker 1: right foot. Am I allowed to say, Hey, I'm an
- 9:47Speaker 1: American citizen, you can't detain me. I don't care who
- 9:49Speaker 1: you are. I'm allowed to do anything I want. Because
- 9:51Speaker 1: this thirteen year old allegedly, if the story's even real,
- 9:53Speaker 1: the guy might have made it up. But this thirteen
- 9:55Speaker 1: year old legedly is an American citizen? Are police allowed
- 9:58Speaker 1: to detain American citizens? Did something change?
- 10:02Speaker 2: Police are allowed to detain American citizens when they have
- 10:06Speaker 2: cause to detain them, such as like a person speeding
- 10:11Speaker 2: like you, speeding down god B thirty going over eighty five.
- 10:19Speaker 2: You know, yes, And they have a right to investigate
- 10:23Speaker 2: a stop and detain momentarily for the purpose of stopping them.
- 10:28Speaker 2: And you have to show identification. You know, when the
- 10:32Speaker 2: police stop somebody, even on the street or in your car,
- 10:37Speaker 2: what do they want? They want identification? Identify who you are.
- 10:41Speaker 2: And you saying I'm an American citizen or I'm the governor,
- 10:45Speaker 2: or I'm a member of Congress or whatever, that doesn't
- 10:47Speaker 2: mean anything. You have got to prove who you say
- 10:50Speaker 2: you are, or the police need to find out who
- 10:53Speaker 2: they're actually dealing with. They do that for their own safety,
- 10:56Speaker 2: and they do it to see if they're stopping a person,
- 10:58Speaker 2: this particular person for the right reason. So the police
- 11:02Speaker 2: have that.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I'm gonna be inundated, gonna I'm gonna be inundated by
- 11:06Speaker 1: emails and by by exes. Now, the police have every
- 11:09Speaker 1: right to do that, provided the reason they're making the
- 11:11Speaker 1: contact is legitimate. And again, if you're running with a
- 11:14Speaker 1: bunch of people who are here illegally, If you're in
- 11:17Speaker 1: the midst of an apartment where two criminal illegals are
- 11:21Speaker 1: being picked up by Ice, they have every right to
- 11:23Speaker 1: detain you and find out who the hell you are.
- 11:25Speaker 1: They have every single right to do that. Now, cop
- 11:27Speaker 1: can't stop me in the sidewalk and say you look funny,
- 11:30Speaker 1: give me your ID. Not in Texas they can't. But
- 11:32Speaker 1: if there's some reason somebody said that guy, we're.
- 11:35Speaker 4: In that shirt. You know what I mean?
- 11:36Speaker 1: Because if I got trapped of berbing and funny looking
- 11:38Speaker 1: tea be stopped every day, So at the end, at
- 11:40Speaker 1: the end of the day, you have to be making
- 11:43Speaker 1: official contact. And they always leave the context out to
- 11:45Speaker 1: be a script videos.
- 11:46Speaker 2: It can't be a pretext right under any circumstance. Police
- 11:49Speaker 2: can't stop you under a pretext. He looks he looks suspicious,
- 11:54Speaker 2: so he looks like he's from New York.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Right that he stopped every day, that's true. I just
- 12:00Speaker 1: just want to make sure I cleared that. I because
- 12:01Speaker 1: there is so much stupidity online right now, and unfortunately
- 12:04Speaker 1: people fall for it, and I want them to stop
- 12:06Speaker 1: falling for it. That's why I keep on doing the
- 12:07Speaker 1: work I try to do. That's why I keep bringing
- 12:09Speaker 1: you back on talk about what is and what is
- 12:11Speaker 1: in llegal. Let's talk about Venezuela. Last night, Tucker Carlson said,
- 12:15Speaker 1: I have good information from members of Congress at Trump's
- 12:19Speaker 1: speech tonight, he's going to announce that we're going to
- 12:22Speaker 1: war with Venezuela. Now, the last time I checked, you've
- 12:25Speaker 1: got to talk to Congress before you go to war
- 12:26Speaker 1: with anybody. If you're actually going to war. Now, if
- 12:29Speaker 1: you're blowing up boats off the coast, you're allowed to
- 12:31Speaker 1: do that, going after terrorist organizations, drug runners, and whatever
- 12:34Speaker 1: else is there forgetting that. Tucker was dead wrong about that.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I generally liked the guy, but that was just weird.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Let's talk about blowing boats up that are loaded to
- 12:43Speaker 1: the brim with cocaine off the coast of Venezuela.
- 12:45Speaker 4: Do we have the right to do it?
- 12:47Speaker 2: All? Right? Let's back up a little bit about Congress,
- 12:49Speaker 2: who generally doesn't do a whole lot. They have voted
- 12:52Speaker 2: twice to stop Trump from doing what he's doing. And
- 12:56Speaker 2: both of those boats sponsored by the left failed House
- 13:00Speaker 2: of Representatives. So they were voting on whether or not
- 13:05Speaker 2: his conduct was authorized under the War Powers Act of
- 13:08Speaker 2: seventy three, and it failed both times. Therefore, I think
- 13:12Speaker 2: giving the go ahead to buy the house to do
- 13:17Speaker 2: what Trump was doing. About the boats. What has been
- 13:20Speaker 2: going on for years is that drugs have been being
- 13:24Speaker 2: manufactured in Colombia and Venezuela, and they've been put in
- 13:27Speaker 2: boats made boats that are concealed in the jungles. They
- 13:32Speaker 2: fabricate them, they put the cocaine stuff it in there,
- 13:35Speaker 2: and then they run them down the rivers, put them
- 13:37Speaker 2: in the Atlantic, and put them in the Pacific. They
- 13:40Speaker 2: have no flag. That's a big deal under international law.
- 13:43Speaker 2: They're not flying a flag, they have no transponder. They
- 13:46Speaker 2: don't know they're what people are what they are, And
- 13:49Speaker 2: the coastguard occasionally would catch one of these folks and
- 13:53Speaker 2: pull them over. And before they could pull them over
- 13:56Speaker 2: to see if there are drugs, they sink the boat.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Why do they sink the boat because the evidence is
- 14:01Speaker 2: gone And that's been going on really for a long time.
- 14:05Speaker 2: The drugs are gone, then the so called fishermen are
- 14:09Speaker 2: rescued and we have to take them back to their
- 14:12Speaker 2: country of origin. So we spend taxpayer money to do
- 14:15Speaker 2: it again, it again, just to do it again, and
- 14:18Speaker 2: they've been doing laughing at us the whole time. Trump said,
- 14:20Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. We're gonna if you're
- 14:23Speaker 2: not flying a flag, you have all the markings of
- 14:27Speaker 2: look like a drug boat, which they all are, We're
- 14:30Speaker 2: gonna blow you out of the water because you're committing
- 14:33Speaker 2: a really an act of aggression against the United States.
- 14:36Speaker 2: You're bringing in drugs into the US. These drug cartels,
- 14:39Speaker 2: now two of them from Venezuela have been marked as
- 14:43Speaker 2: terrorist organizations by the United States, and you are going
- 14:48Speaker 2: to suffer the consequences. Blows them out of the water.
- 14:51Speaker 2: You know something that I think it works. They're not fishermen.
- 14:55Speaker 2: They don't ever find any fishing poles or nets or
- 14:57Speaker 2: fish or fish.
- 15:01Speaker 1: You kind of need one of those things if you're
- 15:02Speaker 1: going fishing, right, you need a couple of those items.
- 15:04Speaker 2: I would think think they'd be something, and you don't.
- 15:06Speaker 2: You know, you don't fish with a speed boat going
- 15:09Speaker 2: that fast anyway, So they're not fishermen and.
- 15:13Speaker 1: You can't control at eighty miles an hour. I didn't
- 15:15Speaker 1: know that. It is, uh, it is Ted Poe we
- 15:17Speaker 1: love having Ted on. So when when the left goes
- 15:21Speaker 1: nuts like they're going and they keep on saying this
- 15:23Speaker 1: is a war crime, that Pete hag Seth and Donald
- 15:26Speaker 1: Trump are war criminals, they're they're legitimately they're supporting its
- 15:30Speaker 1: sponsoring and backing the drug runners. Ted, what the hell
- 15:34Speaker 1: happened to the Democrats he used to rub elbows with
- 15:36Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. Do
- 15:39Speaker 1: they really think that Americans are going to buy that
- 15:41Speaker 1: the good people are the ones on the boats and
- 15:44Speaker 1: the bad people are the ones keeping drugs from coming here.
- 15:48Speaker 2: It seems like they're always taking the wrong side. They
- 15:51Speaker 2: take the side of the criminals and that commit crimes
- 15:54Speaker 2: in our country. They could take the side of people
- 15:57Speaker 2: illegally in the country over the law. Then now they're
- 16:00Speaker 2: taking the side of the worst people on earth smuggling
- 16:05Speaker 2: poison into the United States that will kill Americans, and
- 16:09Speaker 2: those folks are making money off of it. And now
- 16:12Speaker 2: all of a sudden they have their new poster people,
- 16:16Speaker 2: and that's the drug runners into the United States. I
- 16:19Speaker 2: don't know why they take that side. They're taking the
- 16:21Speaker 2: wrong side. They should take the American side, the side
- 16:24Speaker 2: of America, not the side of terrorist organizations.
- 16:29Speaker 1: But they remark like that it's Ted Poe. Of course
- 16:32Speaker 1: he was a triathlete back in the early seventies. But
- 16:34Speaker 1: a hamstring issue, hamstring, which is what happened Tad. I
- 16:38Speaker 1: got about a minute. Are are we going to see
- 16:40Speaker 1: the end of Ukraine Russia in our lifetimes? What the
- 16:42Speaker 1: hell's going on with that? I got about a minute left.
- 16:46Speaker 2: I can't answer that question. I just think we ought
- 16:48Speaker 2: to quit given money to anyone involved in of course Ukraine,
- 16:53Speaker 2: and of course you know where I stand on that,
- 16:55Speaker 2: we've been spending money over there. I don't know if
- 16:58Speaker 2: we're going to get a sea spar. I think it's
- 17:00Speaker 2: going to boil down to this one issue. It's going
- 17:03Speaker 2: to continue until it hurts Putin, until he figures out
- 17:07Speaker 2: that it's whatever's happening hurting him. Well, I don't think so.
- 17:13Speaker 2: He'd quit so and I don't think he's going to quit.
- 17:16Speaker 2: He wants a certain part of Ukraine and he's not
- 17:19Speaker 2: going to quit until he gets it. I think we
- 17:21Speaker 2: ought to realize that. And he hasn't been hurt enough.
- 17:25Speaker 2: The country of Russia hadn't been hurt enough. Otherwise they
- 17:28Speaker 2: would start stop.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Uh, but I don't know.
- 17:32Speaker 2: We need to send you over there to get it settled.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Well, that that make him stop immediately? This New Yorker
- 17:36Speaker 1: guy who speeds down the road all the time and
- 17:38Speaker 1: he's Italian. Let's just stop the war it is, Tedpoe,
- 17:42Speaker 1: go follow him at judged, Ted Poe, ky, fill me
- 17:45Speaker 1: and please let me understand what the hell this means
- 17:47Speaker 1: that we went from Schedule one to Schedule three. That
- 17:50Speaker 1: didn't make it legal, it didn't decriminalize it, but it
- 17:53Speaker 1: puts it in a different category. Do you know what
- 17:55Speaker 1: the hell President Trump did last week?
- 17:57Speaker 5: So essentially it was just common sense Paul Sea making.
- 18:01Speaker 3: I just want to clarify for everyone.
- 18:02Speaker 5: Faically, I didn't know that many terms for cannabis.
- 18:07Speaker 3: That was pretty impressive. Are you sure.
- 18:11Speaker 1: I know a lot of words. I just know a
- 18:13Speaker 1: lot of words. So what does this mean? So it
- 18:17Speaker 1: was really really bad. Now it's still bad, but not
- 18:19Speaker 1: as bad. What does this mean?
- 18:21Speaker 5: It's well, cannabis has never actually been that bad, like
- 18:24Speaker 5: as a substance. It's just not. And I say this
- 18:27Speaker 5: as literally an experts. One of the few things I
- 18:30Speaker 5: can say I'm an expert in route my dissertation partly
- 18:33Speaker 5: on cannabis and cannabis scheduling.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Back in the UK.
- 18:37Speaker 5: This was pre Brexit, where there was some hope that
- 18:41Speaker 5: our veterans might be able to get the help that
- 18:44Speaker 5: they need, people with mental health issues could get the
- 18:47Speaker 5: sort of help they needed from what is essentially a
- 18:49Speaker 5: substance that is not only incredibly useful for people in
- 18:54Speaker 5: terms of like manufacturing, like textiles, things like that, but
- 18:58Speaker 5: is very helpful as an alternative to those hideous synthetic
- 19:02Speaker 5: drugs opioids. Even a lot of people, you know, I've
- 19:06Speaker 5: seen online saying like, we have plenty of good drugs
- 19:09Speaker 5: that help people who are in pain, help people with nausea,
- 19:13Speaker 5: and of life care people who are dealing with disgusting
- 19:16Speaker 5: side effects from particularly cancer drugs, but also vicious side
- 19:21Speaker 5: effects from things like opioids. You know, when we think
- 19:26Speaker 5: of opioids, Joe, I think most people go to you know, fentanyl,
- 19:30Speaker 5: they go to crisis that you saw hero Well, yeah,
- 19:34Speaker 5: it's all heroin, right, Like every single opioid. You're just
- 19:38Speaker 5: getting prescription heroin. Every single time someone sits there and
- 19:42Speaker 5: tells me like, oh I've got an adderall prescription I
- 19:45Speaker 5: just think okay, so you've got a prescription for essentially
- 19:48Speaker 5: crystal meth or speed cocaine, any of those kind of oppers.
- 19:53Speaker 5: It's exactly the same as those. But we think because
- 19:56Speaker 5: it comes in a little pell bottle that it's safe
- 19:59Speaker 5: and good for you.
- 20:00Speaker 3: It's not.
- 20:00Speaker 5: It's really bad for you. And anyone who thinks otherwise
- 20:03Speaker 5: is kidding themselves.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Let me tell me a little context. And this is
- 20:07Speaker 1: from my area. You're way too young. Of course, you
- 20:09Speaker 1: know who Elvis is. But Elvis was loaded full of
- 20:12Speaker 1: drugs and he was for years and years and years.
- 20:14Speaker 1: And I hate even saying that. I'm such a fan.
- 20:16Speaker 1: And he was certainly, you know, an idol of mind
- 20:18Speaker 1: when it comes to music and performing. But the guy
- 20:21Speaker 1: was taking it. But it was all prescription, and he
- 20:23Speaker 1: literally said, no, this is okay. The doctors gave me this.
- 20:27Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about. How many people go
- 20:29Speaker 1: and they've got a back surgery or something, they get
- 20:32Speaker 1: on some sort of oxy, some form of oxy, and
- 20:35Speaker 1: they're just stuck on it. Now they just can't get
- 20:37Speaker 1: off of it. They're hooked on pain pills. So we're
- 20:39Speaker 1: talking about really really hard drugs that for some reason
- 20:43Speaker 1: people are using thinking it's perfectly fine because some doctor
- 20:46Speaker 1: wrote a prescription for it. And then there's marijuana that
- 20:49Speaker 1: we try to vilify like it's the worst thing on
- 20:51Speaker 1: the planet. And I don't do marijuana. I don't smoke,
- 20:53Speaker 1: I don't drink alcohol. I'll do any of that stuff.
- 20:55Speaker 1: But I've said this a million times. If alcohol is
- 20:59Speaker 1: available and legal to adults in America, why wouldn't marijuana be.
- 21:03Speaker 1: And many people watching listening things that I'm a pothead
- 21:05Speaker 1: nocause I said that. No, the bottom line is, I
- 21:08Speaker 1: don't think there's ever been a study that shows it's
- 21:09Speaker 1: a gateway drug. And I've said this a million times.
- 21:13Speaker 1: I'd much rather be in the highway with somebody who's
- 21:14Speaker 1: stoned than somebody who's drunk. Now, I don't want to
- 21:17Speaker 1: be in the highway with either one of them, but
- 21:18Speaker 1: I've had my choice. It's gonna be the guy going
- 21:20Speaker 1: twenty in the slow lane.
- 21:22Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 21:23Speaker 5: And I think that's like a misconception that a lot
- 21:26Speaker 5: of people have that, you know, cannabis is up there
- 21:29Speaker 5: with meth, particularly P two P meth, which is like
- 21:33Speaker 5: the one stop shop for psychosis that we have along
- 21:38Speaker 5: with sort of like all those different like SSRIs, prescription drugs,
- 21:42Speaker 5: opiates just essentially being yeah, prescription heroin, Benzo's not really
- 21:47Speaker 5: far off the same kind of thing, highly addictive, highly dangerous.
- 21:51Speaker 5: You should not be operating any machinery really when your
- 21:55Speaker 5: mind is altered in any way, shape or form. I mean,
- 21:57Speaker 5: like I'm pregnant, I'm stone cold, sober, and every way
- 22:01Speaker 5: like that possibly imaginable, And I don't think I should
- 22:04Speaker 5: be operating heavy machinery because my brain is.
- 22:08Speaker 4: Emails and stuff.
- 22:09Speaker 1: I'm gonna get now that you just suggested pregnant women
- 22:12Speaker 1: shouldn't be operating heavy machinery.
- 22:15Speaker 4: There running the front end loader in the back hoe, No.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Don't.
- 22:19Speaker 5: I was like I was putting together another chicken coop,
- 22:21Speaker 5: Like I'm eight months pregnant, I'm still going out trying
- 22:23Speaker 5: to do all of this stuff, and I keep getting
- 22:25Speaker 5: told that you need to sit down and chill, but no.
- 22:28Speaker 5: So basically, what this rescheduling has done has essentially gone
- 22:31Speaker 5: down that sort of common sense policy route of moving
- 22:35Speaker 5: cannabis away from being scheduled, the same way the heroin, fentanyl,
- 22:40Speaker 5: all these drugs that actually do kill people. You know,
- 22:42Speaker 5: we have zero recorded deaths due to cannabis. Ever, you
- 22:46Speaker 5: literally cannot overdose on it. And all those people sitting
- 22:49Speaker 5: around being like, oh, well, my cousin or like my brother,
- 22:52Speaker 5: my son, he like ate a weed gummy once and
- 22:55Speaker 5: he went insane. He could eat mushrooms and go insane.
- 22:58Speaker 5: It's a temporary state, and yeah, you might get some
- 23:02Speaker 5: flashbacks from it, but like nothing that literally talk therapy
- 23:07Speaker 5: can't cure. And I don't care about all of people
- 23:09Speaker 5: who are going to blow me up and yell at
- 23:11Speaker 5: me and say that I'm wrong yelling at me.
- 23:13Speaker 4: You're be yelling at me. It's case.
- 23:15Speaker 1: I feel that she's done the research. She's a very
- 23:17Speaker 1: very smart lady. So talk to me about what this
- 23:21Speaker 1: actually means. It was this schedule, now it's this schedule.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Does that mean that veterans who need it can get
- 23:27Speaker 1: it even if it's not so called legalized in a
- 23:30Speaker 1: particular state. What people don't understand is that the individual
- 23:34Speaker 1: states have been passing laws and changing the ways to
- 23:37Speaker 1: deal with marijuana for a long time, but the federal
- 23:39Speaker 1: government has not changed the schedule. The federal government at
- 23:42Speaker 1: any moment could come into any state USA and say
- 23:45Speaker 1: we're shutting down your dispensaries because it's illegal, they aren't
- 23:48Speaker 1: doing that. They've left it alone. So what does this
- 23:50Speaker 1: change in schedule literally mean?
- 23:52Speaker 4: Do we know?
- 23:54Speaker 5: I think what it ultimately means is not only do
- 23:57Speaker 5: we like, does every state now have to look at
- 23:59Speaker 5: this from like a feacing perspective differently, Like there is
- 24:02Speaker 5: not a human being under the sun who should be Like,
- 24:06Speaker 5: if you're illegally dealing drugs, there's a big difference between
- 24:10Speaker 5: illegally dealing pot versus illegally dealing heroin. People are gonna
- 24:15Speaker 5: die from the heroine that you supply. You know, we've
- 24:18Speaker 5: already seen. Like there are rumors Joe that one of
- 24:21Speaker 5: the main reasons that we went into the Middle East
- 24:23Speaker 5: in the early two thousands. Yes we had nine to eleven,
- 24:26Speaker 5: which you know, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
- 24:29Speaker 5: But there's a lot of rumors that one of the
- 24:32Speaker 5: reasons we went in was really to grab hold of
- 24:35Speaker 5: the opium trade, and we protected it as a country
- 24:39Speaker 5: by the way.
- 24:39Speaker 4: Like that was something grows all the poppies, right.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Yeah, it grows all the poppies.
- 24:45Speaker 5: But I think for us here at home, what this
- 24:48Speaker 5: kind of does is it removes those legal stigmas that
- 24:54Speaker 5: are associated with cannabis, which allows for I think a
- 24:58Speaker 5: lot of doors and windows to open in the research
- 25:01Speaker 5: side of things. So I think we're gonna see probably
- 25:05Speaker 5: the tobacco industry, definitely the pharmaceutic I mean I already
- 25:08Speaker 5: know people in the tobacco and the pharmaceutical industry who
- 25:11Speaker 5: are literally just waiting for cannabis to be fully legalized,
- 25:15Speaker 5: not just in terms of like they want to create
- 25:18Speaker 5: medical systems because they know that cannabis is a much
- 25:21Speaker 5: safer substance than all the stuff that they've been prescribing
- 25:25Speaker 5: and giving people since you know, pretty much pretty much
- 25:29Speaker 5: since like the turn of the last century, like when
- 25:31Speaker 5: we went from eighteen hundreds to nineteen hundreds. But again
- 25:35Speaker 5: through manufacturing, like when you can use cannabis based products,
- 25:39Speaker 5: like even just the stem, when you break those things
- 25:41Speaker 5: down from cannabis and from hemp, which is same plant,
- 25:46Speaker 5: but like one has the sort of stoner side effects
- 25:50Speaker 5: the other one doesn't. But when you sort of break
- 25:54Speaker 5: down these plants into all the different factions that they
- 25:56Speaker 5: can be broken into, we can actually revolutionize American manufacturing
- 26:01Speaker 5: in a million different ways. I mean, we could literally
- 26:03Speaker 5: bring it all home. I mean, we don't have time
- 26:05Speaker 5: to get into it today, but it really is a
- 26:08Speaker 5: wonder plant in that way, the like in the same
- 26:11Speaker 5: way that sort of like opium, and you know, even
- 26:14Speaker 5: like mushrooms. All of these other different naturally occurring substances
- 26:18Speaker 5: just aren't, like really really like just aren't.
- 26:24Speaker 3: And so I think what.
- 26:25Speaker 5: We're seeing is a gradual move towards understanding the benefits
- 26:31Speaker 5: of this stuff far outway any costs. Again, I don't like,
- 26:36Speaker 5: you can't really put cannabis and alcohol in the same bucket,
- 26:40Speaker 5: because you speak to any social worker in the world,
- 26:44Speaker 5: and they're going to tell you the worst drug out
- 26:46Speaker 5: there across the spectrum of drugs, They're going to tell
- 26:49Speaker 5: you that the worst drug out there is alcohol.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Like true, And I've talked about the civillion times though.
- 26:53Speaker 1: The liquor lobby is why is why marijuana is not legal.
- 26:56Speaker 1: That's why they spent all the money they possibly could
- 26:59Speaker 1: one hundred years ago. So to say this is a horrible,
- 27:01Speaker 1: disgusting they vilified it. You can't possibly have this but
- 27:04Speaker 1: drink some more are straight you know, one hundred and
- 27:07Speaker 1: ninety proof. So I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Last question, on this because I want to move on
- 27:12Speaker 1: a couple other things. Is it a gateway drug, You've
- 27:14Speaker 1: done the studies. I contend that it's not, but there
- 27:18Speaker 1: are people who suggest it is.
- 27:20Speaker 3: It's not.
- 27:21Speaker 5: Actually, you know what I'd say the biggest gateway drug
- 27:24Speaker 5: is is narcissistic parenting. Like if you're sitting there thinking like, oh,
- 27:29Speaker 5: the reason that my child has problems is because they
- 27:32Speaker 5: smoke weed, you need to go home and look in
- 27:35Speaker 5: the mirror, sit down and listen to what your child
- 27:37Speaker 5: actually has to say, because I guarantee they've been telling
- 27:40Speaker 5: you the problems that they have their whole lives, and
- 27:44Speaker 5: you refuse to listen to them. Cannabis is not a
- 27:47Speaker 5: gateway drug. Cannabis is what most people who use cannabis
- 27:52Speaker 5: use it to chill out at the end of the day.
- 27:54Speaker 5: And it's a heck of a lot healthier than even
- 27:56Speaker 5: your glass of wine or your mums sitting there thinking
- 27:59Speaker 5: that you're all high and mighty and neither.
- 28:01Speaker 1: K nor I are suggesting you smoke or drink. We're
- 28:04Speaker 1: just giving you the facts. Yeah, it is a case
- 28:06Speaker 1: my phill exactly right. No, no, Hello, I've been sober
- 28:10Speaker 1: for a million years. This is and this is what
- 28:12Speaker 1: you get now. I drank a little bit, not much
- 28:15Speaker 1: back in there. I am not a good A good drinker,
- 28:17Speaker 1: A takes away too much, got to drink like a
- 28:20Speaker 1: too way too much even feel anything that's dumb, just
- 28:23Speaker 1: a waste of money. And b why lose control of
- 28:26Speaker 1: your faculties all the time. I don't understand that. All right,
- 28:28Speaker 1: let's let's move on to this, because I did not
- 28:30Speaker 1: know about this. Ted Cruz is suggesting he's running again
- 28:33Speaker 1: for president. Nolt that for me, the farm Team, jd Vance, obviously,
- 28:37Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, obviously, Ron desanthis, obviously Ted Cruz is jumping.
- 28:42Speaker 4: In What did you hear?
- 28:45Speaker 3: I read it on Newsmax today?
- 28:47Speaker 5: That again?
- 28:48Speaker 3: That again, Ted.
- 28:49Speaker 5: Cruz is floating the idea of a run at twenty
- 28:52Speaker 5: twenty eight. And I gotta tell you, Joe, like, there
- 28:55Speaker 5: is no one in my generation who looks at Ted
- 28:57Speaker 5: Cruz and thinks, oh yeah, he's trustworthy, Oh yeah, he's
- 29:01Speaker 5: someone that we want to listen to.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Like.
- 29:03Speaker 5: It breaks my heart because he's just gone so off
- 29:05Speaker 5: the deep end on social media, which is you know
- 29:08Speaker 5: where most people end of the age of forty get
- 29:10Speaker 5: their news these days. So I just I feel bad
- 29:14Speaker 5: for the guy. I know a lot of people who
- 29:16Speaker 5: work on his campaigns. I know a lot of people
- 29:18Speaker 5: close to head. He is, by all regards, a really good,
- 29:22Speaker 5: really nice guy, excellent lawyer. He's amazing for the state
- 29:26Speaker 5: of Texas. But he does not have a shoe in
- 29:30Speaker 5: but he I think he's going to raise a heck
- 29:32Speaker 5: of a.
- 29:32Speaker 3: Lot of money.
- 29:33Speaker 5: I just have a gut feeling that he is going
- 29:35Speaker 5: to raise a lot of money.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Ted forever, I understand you, and I hear what you're saying.
- 29:42Speaker 1: I think that was maybe a suggestion toward Israel. Maybe
- 29:46Speaker 1: what I know. Having said that, Ted is a very
- 29:50Speaker 1: smart guy. He's a very good senator. I consider him
- 29:53Speaker 1: a professional friend. We've known each other a very long time.
- 29:56Speaker 1: You're right, he's a very nice guy, very smart man.
- 29:58Speaker 1: He was not prepared for the for that interview with Tucker.
- 30:01Speaker 1: That was kind of dumb. But how do you raise
- 30:05Speaker 1: money knowing that the big three I just mentioned are
- 30:09Speaker 1: the big three? There's no doubt President Trump is going
- 30:12Speaker 1: to say jd Vance is the guy. I don't see
- 30:14Speaker 1: why he wouldn't say that. As he leaves he thinks
- 30:16Speaker 1: that jd Vance is the next guy up. And then
- 30:19Speaker 1: Marco Rubio has proven himself like crazy as the Secretary
- 30:22Speaker 1: of State.
- 30:23Speaker 4: Holy crap.
- 30:23Speaker 1: I never knew Marco had that in him. And then
- 30:25Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis was like the front runner other than Trump
- 30:28Speaker 1: the last time around, and he's done great wonders for Florida.
- 30:31Speaker 1: I guess I don't understand why right now would make
- 30:33Speaker 1: sense for Ted Cruz. What he knows, those three are
- 30:36Speaker 1: already like batting first, second, and third in the major leagues.
- 30:40Speaker 1: He's like a minor league right now when it comes
- 30:42Speaker 1: to presidential races. He's not even in the ballpark.
- 30:45Speaker 3: Do you know.
- 30:46Speaker 5: I hadn't even thought about the Israel And I was
- 30:48Speaker 5: thinking more in terms of like the sort of Texan
- 30:52Speaker 5: big oil, like you guys have so much industry down there,
- 30:55Speaker 5: like no, but yeah, but.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I've got a stuff because I live here. No, yeah,
- 31:01Speaker 1: nobody in big oil, in big billionaires you know from Midland,
- 31:04Speaker 1: Texas are going. Man, I can't wait for Ted CRUs
- 31:05Speaker 1: to run.
- 31:06Speaker 4: Now.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Maybe there are allegiances there that I don't know about,
- 31:09Speaker 1: but I mean, I am not hearing that, and I'm here,
- 31:12Speaker 1: and I think that I would. I mean, I talk
- 31:14Speaker 1: to everybody who wants to run for anything in this state.
- 31:16Speaker 4: So I'm not sure that that's really what it is.
- 31:18Speaker 1: I said Israel because on the debate with Tucker Carlson
- 31:21Speaker 1: and he was defending a pack, he was defending Israel,
- 31:23Speaker 1: so on and so forth. I've got no problem with Israel,
- 31:26Speaker 1: you know how I feel about that. But I don't
- 31:28Speaker 1: see like Big Texas going Ted's our guy. Maybe I don't.
- 31:32Speaker 1: I'm not in the conversation that could. So that's what
- 31:34Speaker 1: you were talking about. Do you think he's maybe getting
- 31:36Speaker 1: that Lincoln or not? Because why else even suggested?
- 31:39Speaker 3: I think it's that.
- 31:40Speaker 5: I think it's data centers. I think I sadly, Joe,
- 31:44Speaker 5: I think the only reason the Ted thinks that he's
- 31:47Speaker 5: got a chance at running is he might live in
- 31:50Speaker 5: a bit of an echo chamber. Everyone takes money from APAC.
- 31:54Speaker 5: That doesn't make him special in any way, shape or form.
- 31:57Speaker 5: I think there's like three people in like all of
- 31:59Speaker 5: politics ever that haven't taken money from them, and there's
- 32:03Speaker 5: so much money to go around that Yeah, Like if
- 32:06Speaker 5: any I listen, I'm completely with you.
- 32:09Speaker 3: I think it's Vance.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Rubio, and then I think DeSantis, he definitely has a
- 32:14Speaker 5: shot of being in that administration, but I don't know
- 32:18Speaker 5: what that looks like. I don't see him being he
- 32:21Speaker 5: can't compete for me, he can't compete with the other
- 32:24Speaker 5: two for the presidential nomination. I do see him actually
- 32:27Speaker 5: being an incredible secretary of State. He deserves a place
- 32:31Speaker 5: in the administration above literally everyone else in politics in
- 32:35Speaker 5: the entire country, because I just like, I've never met
- 32:39Speaker 5: anyone who lives in Florida who is unhappy about living in.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Florida, which I think is incredible.
- 32:45Speaker 5: Like I can't even think of another state where that
- 32:47Speaker 5: is happening. But for Ted, I think this is just
- 32:51Speaker 5: something he really, really, really really wants, and I think
- 32:54Speaker 5: he's got a lot of people around him telling him
- 32:56Speaker 5: that it's a good idea because they just don't want
- 32:58Speaker 5: to hurt his feelings. And so as great as I
- 33:02Speaker 5: think today, I feel like someone che needs to give
- 33:05Speaker 5: him a hug and be like, buddy, no.
- 33:08Speaker 1: No, I've got one minute, but I really do want
- 33:13Speaker 1: you to talk about this diversity visa program.
- 33:15Speaker 4: You're not here in a diversity visa, right, No.
- 33:18Speaker 5: I came out here. For the first ten years I
- 33:20Speaker 5: was on an one visa expert in my field.
- 33:24Speaker 4: And then uh, now why would diversity?
- 33:27Speaker 1: Why did we want diversity? We keep diversity is not
- 33:31Speaker 1: our strength. Let me make that as clear as I can,
- 33:33Speaker 1: Like Charlie Kirk said, unity is our strength. Yes, come
- 33:36Speaker 1: from diverse parts of the world and diverse cultures and
- 33:38Speaker 1: backgrounds and skin tones, and then become one and then
- 33:41Speaker 1: unite in the in this country for our future and
- 33:44Speaker 1: to make a better country. So why was this even
- 33:46Speaker 1: put in place? Do you know why we have something
- 33:48Speaker 1: called a diversity visa?
- 33:50Speaker 3: I don't.
- 33:51Speaker 5: I mean it's been around for a heck of a
- 33:52Speaker 5: long time, Like are really like it predates I think
- 33:54Speaker 5: even my existence on the planet, Like it's been around forever.
- 33:57Speaker 5: I can't tell you the number of people I know, Joe.
- 33:59Speaker 5: The other term for the diversity visa program is the
- 34:03Speaker 5: visa lottery. So there's a handful of countries where if
- 34:07Speaker 5: people like even Britain. Actually now so it used to
- 34:10Speaker 5: be that there were so many people from Britain who
- 34:12Speaker 5: applied through regular means to get a visa to work
- 34:16Speaker 5: in the States that the States was like, you don't
- 34:18Speaker 5: get the lottery, you don't get to be part of.
- 34:21Speaker 3: The diversity visa program. Because we have enough of you.
- 34:24Speaker 5: But Britain was actually supposed to be on the list
- 34:27Speaker 5: this year, so people I knew, people I know are
- 34:30Speaker 5: actually waiting for the Diversity Visa lottery to open up
- 34:34Speaker 5: so they could apply to it and potentially get a
- 34:37Speaker 5: visa that way. I know so many Australians that have
- 34:40Speaker 5: done the same thing. I don't know why this thing exists.
- 34:43Speaker 5: I do, personally kind of think it's dumb. I think
- 34:46Speaker 5: everyone should have to.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Work to be able to be here. That's just me.
- 34:50Speaker 5: I went about it the legit, legal way.
- 34:52Speaker 3: I didn't get any special treatment.
- 34:56Speaker 1: So you know, well, I we're so glad you did.
- 34:58Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you're here. It is Casemi Field.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Go follow her casemyifel dot com. Go follow her at
- 35:03Speaker 1: casemith over on socials. See her on Newsmax, where she's
- 35:06Speaker 1: a contributor. K You're amazing, Thank you so much.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Thanks Joe, You're amazing.
- 35:10Speaker 2: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.