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ABJ Podcast Ep 25 JS Michaels · ABJ

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  bring in my guest here for this episode.
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  You see that the title you seen the photos.
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  They do just jacked is killing the game JS Michaels.
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  Let's go on on brother the a BJ podcast.
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  I am honored sir to be on your podcast and I hope I can add
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  some non-wrestling Flair to your podcast as well because her Long
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  time. I haven't been a wrestler.
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  So that's interesting. All in of itself.
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  Yeah. So you did start off in this
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  scene as you were telling me as a backyard ER kind of.
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  So I was in high school in 1997. So this might also be a first
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  and probably your oldest podcast.
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  Guest I just turned 40 in my business last month, they turned
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  43. So proudly proudly, 43 years old
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  so you look great I wish I was here for 43.
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  I'm a I'm a fat slob takes a lot of Work, man, a lot of sacrifice
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  and not different than what everybody puts into being the
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  wrestling business to begin with, very you sacrifice all
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  day, every day, man. Even to just get this whole
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  thing rolling. But to talk about 1997, I was in
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  high school. I started working at McDonald's,
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  so McDonald's is actually the birth of that way championship
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  wrestling. And that is the birth of a lot
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  of the things you see today in wrestling in northeast PA.
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  So it all started when I was working at McDonald's and I
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  heard a bunch of kids in Old Forge, which For high school
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  97th 1997, classic class of 97. Graduate, we all decided to do
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  wrestling in the backyard. Actually they had started it and
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  I joined it and there were a few names that you might know.
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  Today, that are still going, that reported that Federation
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  and it was called now. Get ready for this.
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  The most backyard name ever extreme hardcore championship
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  wrestling. Extreme hardcore hacks x69
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  backyard. Bloodbath squared right?
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  90s been love it. It and so under those cool asses
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  that the where all the cool asses, you know, I'm talking
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  about 19. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we
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  were all, you know, everybody that was teenagers in the 90s
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  came up in the 80s. So we're all a little bit edgy,
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  Rock to begin with, so we had to put that extreme super mega
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  hardcore and then ECW of course, didn't help.
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  I mean, that's where, you know, we all want it to be like ECW
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  and attitude her, right? So wrestling and backyards to
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  what end up being when I turned officially look this, Up on the
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  Internet underground wrestling. So how do you bridge the gap
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  between under underground and backyard wrestling, right?
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  Well, we learned we trained each cwk was this very small group
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  and then we had another group from Sweet Valley called Valley
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  championship wrestling who came in and scouted our shows.
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  And essentially like the bunch of our talent in there.
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  Like we put on these shows in the backyard and Sweet Valley,
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  cool will come and Russell for you.
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  Then we got a building So, now we couldn't, it was getting away
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  from backyard because it literally wasn't in a backyard.
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  We also had a little bit of training, so there was a dude,
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  named Jet Jaguar, who trained. It was one of the founders of
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  ECW and Sweet Valley. I think his sister dated this
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  Jaguar, dude. And he learned all the bumps.
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  So we started learning the bumps that way.
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  So, that's how we kind of went from backyard to underground and
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  I'll pause because I'm sure there's so many of the few
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  things you want to ask about that, too.
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  Yeah, so when you transition from backyard to a school and
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  start learning that aspect, is there a lot is there blowback?
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  It's like, I get out of here. Kids, your backyard errs.
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  We're not welcome, or did they bring you in so they can teach
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  you the business. The proper way like, is there,
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  is there a barrier there at that point in time, in the early
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  stages? So there wasn't a school, there
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  was Larry, Adam, Steve, and Keith, and John who all got
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  trained by this dude, who passed down his knowledge and how to
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  bump, how to do. Certain moves.
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  And then they taught us them. And before, you know it, we had
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  our first show in 1999 Cafe, metropolis, and Clubhouse.
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  Sorry, yeah. Cafe metropolis.
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  And Wilkes-Barre. And we drew pretty good.
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  We only had three matches and Pop Quiz and you won't be able
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  to answer this particular guess what wrestling personality that
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  you're very familiar with today was my first match in value
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  championship, wrestling. Wrestling personality is I'm
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  going to take that as a hint. So I do know a little bit but I
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  believe you came up with diamond City.
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  They were part of that early stages, right?
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  Eric and brabzzz not not the first stage.
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  I know Pete had some time in that area to Pete the long.
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  So, it is, that is that, is that your answer?
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  Pete? It is PE.
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  Ya love me. Was he was in, he was a big fan
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  of Insane, Clown. Posse grown up.
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  And yeah, he almost got to have one is back.
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  Yeah, I was really talked about that.
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  He had changed and green hair and his current wife was also
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  his valet Sarah. So, very cool.
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  And Pete was my first match in Valley championship wrestling,
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  which then, kind of exploded. Now, you talk about the
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  blowback. Oh there was blow back a little
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  bit from our neighbors and Hazelton which were also known
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  as the wild Samoans wxw. And it's funny because we were
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  big fans of them. We would actually go to their
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  shows and we formed a fan club called The snapmare Fan Club.
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  So 19 of us would go in populate most of her shows and pop only
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  force a just for the element. We just like going there.
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  We like to interact or interact with their folks but if you ask
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  them back in the day even if you have Strasse by gathering
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  fucking backyards like that's how we started.
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  But it was there was a it was you know I feel like I get the
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  stigma, right? So like when you're running a
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  company and you have to go through everything to this state
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  and you have to go through everything in the proper
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  channels and and you have to spend money that realistically
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  you probably shouldn't have to spend as a, as a wrestling
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  organization. And then you have backyard kids,
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  who are kind of circumventing the process and not paying for
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  training and not paying for this, and they're just kind of
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  doing it on their own way. I can see the blow back a little
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  bit and I feel like that those, those organizations should try
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  to talk to those kids. Like, hey, man, like we like
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  what you do? Let's let's bring you in and
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  train you properly instead of like becoming Outcast, your, and
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  I mean, because most backyard was, I'm going to assume are
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  like, you know, the punk rock kids, who are like this.
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  I can't afford 400 500 bucks a month to go to your school.
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  I'd love to, I would love to be a part of the wild Samoans, but
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  I just can't afford a man. I just can't.
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  But it's still my dream. And I want to chase this dream.
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  Yeah, we didn't. We weren't Rich Kids by any
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  means. So we could have word whatever
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  they want. Charge, your could be afford to
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  drive to Hazleton to train and then like we kind of got to the
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  point where I'm like screw you and screw what you're doing.
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  Like we respect you you do your thing but we don't want to be
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  part of that we want a revolution right?
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  So in some way we were inspired by ECW and we are ring crew for
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  ECW on. One of the shows are a few of
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  the shows of the Kingston Armory and we got to go backstage and
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  balls. Mahoney would watch our stuff
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  and give us pointers and tips. So we felt pretty cool about
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  ourselves and then we drew like Added like we packed Cafe Metro
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  wall-to-wall with people. Now granted the tickets for
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  three bucks, and we used to really heavily take it, you
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  know, flyer. All the, the shows that they
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  used to do there at Cafe Metropolis.
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  So, you know, obviously we have a good streak team because it
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  was us, we were cleaning up after the shows on Saturdays,
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  putting together the ring, which was their stage, bringing it
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  Forward putting on the post on Sundays and then having our
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  shows once a month. And man, like the fact that we
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  drew that much, and then there was this other Kind of event
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  that happened. We had a I think it was one of
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  the fan. I promised name drops of people.
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  Nobody will even know and people that people do know today.
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  There's a dude named refereed in Mills and I think Danielle's
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  cousin worked at the. I think it was the fu overrated,
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  then the first year in an arena which is now, Mohegan Sun Arena.
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  Well WCW had a show there and they left behind their entire
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  form scripted promos how to run a ship.
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  I go. I wish I had to the copy I don't
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  need to maybe somebody does. I never you know, maybe Frank
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  Frank in our dough and Frankie Angelini or local Dorian for
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  VCW, has a copy possible but it showed us how to run a
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  professional show at. That's how we did it.
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  We had formats moving forward, we had promos and then we had a
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  lot of rehearsals, right? So I know back in the day it was
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  a lot of content on the Fly. Not a lot of, you know, we're
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  going to go out there and you know, we're going to run through
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  the script. Well, no savage steam, boiler is
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  calling you at 4:00 in the morning.
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  Walk me through seven through 15 one more time.
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  Now I didn't have a tag partner who was heavily into that but
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  Everybody else not so much. And then we started to do these
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  like rehearsal. So almost like a theater, right?
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  We're going to do these staged fights.
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  We're going to practice certain moves a couple times a week and
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  then we're also going to we're going to critique each other.
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  You'll know you got to go back and change that.
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  You gotta change that spot so it was a little bit more
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  choreographed as we moved into. Like that is probably fifth 67
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  show because we realized more people are watching like we need
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  a more crisp product. We want people to really like
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  our brand and we ended up getting a Following of, you
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  know, and for any standards, you know, Indie standards today,
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  it's pretty good. And, you know, we probably
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  average about, you know, somewhere between 150 to 175.
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  You, 150 people show. So not too bad as a backyard
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  company. That now has a venue at this
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  point in time, in the 90s, you're putting more effort into
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  most companies that are trying to run today.
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  Yeah, it's crazy to think about like we believe we had a But 50
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  people involved from the people that sold merge people pressed
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  shirts, VCW shirts, they go to the local thrift store, buy a
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  bunch of like, you know, Mark down shirts and then press the
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  VCW logo on the manually. We had, you know, website
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  people, we had all kinds of folks in the wall.
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  So top to bottom of your company and we were a bunch of like 19,
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  20, 21 year old. No nothing's just starting from
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  scratch. So now we're really like we want
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  to make this shit succeed. This is our, this is Us.
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  And I think I carry that personality with me the rest of
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  my life after that, and, you know, skipping ahead.
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  That's why I'm involved with smash Master wrestling right
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  now, because it's Grassroots. It's, we're going to do this a
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  different way. We're still getting Russell, but
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  we're going to put on a road flare Arrow touch, and so, you
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  know, VCW to me was it was it was huge and it ended up we
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  actually had a v cwnd show like an officially licensed Andy
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  Show. Now y'all heard the crazy crazy
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  craziness of rock and rebel and that the unfortunate thing that
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  happened with his family and him and all that stuff.
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  He was, he was he used his license like he somehow we
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  politics, we had people who were good marketing people, and he
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  came and put on a show of Steve Corino, defended the end of, uh,
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  Belt on that show. Wow against Danny Rose.
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  I love raucous was on the show and you just have to put Rubble
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  in a match. Then you have a less yellow ring
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  or something and then he is long as you booked him, he would let
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  you use it. Yep.
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  And Steve Corino. He brought he brought his own
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  referee. So not only did you have to pay
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  kirino yet to pay my Keener to? So that was funny.
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  We learned a lot about the business in a very short amount
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  of time at that point. Now, that's when I kind of was
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  like, Hey, I don't like the way the actual Indy business.
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  Works like this is weird. Like there are people on our
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  show that I don't know that I don't you know, they're not part
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  of our family. It was strange.
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  Then we went down and up going back and to Club home base in
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  Wilkes-Barre and we ran a few more shows until some other
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  stuff happened. Ultimately, we got shut down the
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  work following rules. So we were, we were canceled by
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  the powers that be and in Pennsylvania.
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  Yeah. Usually, what happens?
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  Yeah, that's unfortunate man. I, you know, I had a whole talk
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  and I definitely want him on someday troske about, you know,
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  how he went through that whole system, and he's trying to
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  change the mindset of professional wrestling and how
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  its treated as a sport. You know what I mean?
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  And I do get that like, Working PA in.
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  Jersey are two different animals, right?
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  Like, if I fall, if I know that you're going to do a wrestling
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  match, right? And you fall and hurt yourself
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  at a pa show, you're probably good when we have a doctor on
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  site like that stuff is comforting but like like I watch
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  this one match where this guy did a today 450 from the top
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  rope to the outside, missed the table completely smacked his
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  skull on the ground completely broke his skull and Had to be
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  life-flighted. He still wrestles to this day,
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  but like I said, where did this happen?
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  He was PA. I go, man.
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  If that would happen in Jersey, you would have that you'd been
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  dead even dead. Like, sure, there's no, like,
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  there's really nobody there to, like, make sure you're cool, or
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  make sure something. If something goes wrong, you're
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  protected and they go crazy in Jersey like there and they will,
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  they'll jump off anything. You hand them, but it's just
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  like, so I do understand that aspect of an athletic commission
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  and having a doctor and stuff, but I don't think you should
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  have to Hey, I'm athletic commission to run a show, our
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  have a license and stuff like I just, I don't know, man, it did.
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  We're just another Mafia northeast PA, right?
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  Exactly. We all know a guy who knows the
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  guy, and we also know that they had let it commissioner very
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  well. Especially after the even doctor
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  sometimes you show up, you're like, that's the doctor and
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  they're like, yeah, I'm like, hey, it's talk to Paulie, you
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  know. Yeah.
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  I won't sir the promotion, but we're at a show and there was a
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  spot where, a kid jumped from the outside to the, from the
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  inside to the outside and landed on.
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  His head neck and back. He was fine.
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  He got up and finished the match, but that doctor didn't
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  even Flinch. He was just like, wow, that was
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  cool. I'm like, I want to get up and
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  go check on them and the doctor was just like I didn't pay them
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  sit in this chair. I ain't moving, you know, I
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  mean, so like yeah, there's, there's different weird things,
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  but yeah, it's pa. Pa is very interesting, but yes,
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  so that venue you guys ran at. Is that still an active venue?
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  Is that still something that's being used?
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  So we ran in The metropolis and then we were kicked out because
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  allegedly we put a hole in some wall that have been did the
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  night before. So then we had to find Club home
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  base. It was a it was like it just a
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  huge like Warehouse, he kind of venue.
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  We were on the first floor at that point and then eventually,
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  when we came back and tried to do things, a second time is
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  Valley wrestling Alliance. We wrestled on the top floor,
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  and then they got are going to be great.
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  Yeah, no, it was awesome and they actually Joey Devine.
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  Oh Joker show. He Promoted a lot of shows as
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  like, just hardcore bands and all kinds of stuff, like posi
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  Fest, I guess was a really big thing.
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  And I was never into that kind of music, but I guess they drew
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  like a ton of people. So, when we weren't wrestling
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  there, and the guys are muscling, their, they were
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  basically pulling in people to do music shows.
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  And, you know, again, we had a entrance way that doubled as,
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  you know, stage for bands and we were used to that by that.
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  We had it down on how to build it.
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  It was probably constructed in like 2 weeks or less than they
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  were up and running and unfortunately that didn't last
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  either in the middle of all this though.
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  Some of us are actually, did get tricky, okay?
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  But we didn't go to school because there weren't any,
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  right? This is not there.
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  Wasn't your car. Yet.
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  There wasn't a solid Ring of Honor Training Academy yet.
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  So we somehow stumbled on Phil Stamper and rush.
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  So Phil started can, you know, he took the president of
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  Independent wrestling being president of Independent
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  wrestling. He was an RA or R&D at misery,
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  was recorded University and Dallas, Pennsylvania passed
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  Wilkes-Barre and he took A liking to us.
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  And he started to teach us stuff.
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  He took us to this little. I don't even know what to call
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  it in Allentown on to Street in Allentown.
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  It was right after the Fullerton, and exit.
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  We used to love it because it was really close to the
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  sandman's real name. James Foley eaten, really?
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  Fullerton, this is meant to be, right?
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  So, a couple of us would go a couple times a week and we get
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  trained by Phil. He would take us through the
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  paces and learn. Here's how you really do bumps
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  it here. So you call spots and then we
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  also had actually troske come out a couple times and helped us
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  to write and he put us through the really like, nope.
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  Get up. Do it again.
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  Don't get up. Do it again.
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  Like the tough love? That came with troske and wxw
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  training which was awesome. And we needed that a little bit
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  because we kind of needed that chip knocked off our shoulders,
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  right? So a couple solar next couple
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  sore heads reverse or wewe barely, you know, I remember
• 19:15
  like driving off the road a million times, trying to drive
• 19:16
  home from Allentown Old Forge and Joey's car, it would be 45,
• 19:19
  must be queer, who barely awake and then This is where
• 19:23
  everything gets weird and there are a lot of synchronicities in
• 19:25
  my stories even today. And when even when I left pro
• 19:29
  wrestling, I never left pro wrestling because of these
• 19:31
  things, but there was this other guy who came in who think it
• 19:37
  was, Phil Stamper hook this up. And his name was lightning, Mike
• 19:42
  Quackenbush, right? So this was there was no Chikara
• 19:46
  yet. There is us getting trained by
• 19:49
  liking my Quackenbush and then there was this other group of
• 19:51
  people who I came to know. No, were some of the originals
• 19:54
  of chakkar that also get trained by like, the Mike Quackenbush.
• 19:57
  So he taught us a bunch of stuff.
• 19:59
  He taught us some Lucha stuff and he prepared us for our first
• 20:03
  been in the match that we were just talking about the go back
• 20:05
  to. He's the one who taught us how
• 20:08
  to do that kind of style of wrestling and how to like really
• 20:11
  played the crowd and you know he has this whole way of teaching
• 20:14
  about like you got a crescendo and it's like you got to build a
• 20:17
  proton up and go the credit but boom and then bring it back
• 20:20
  down. Like he had that passion for the
• 20:22
  store. Ori of wrestling.
• 20:24
  And I think that's where a lot of us.
• 20:25
  Gotta teach you to be a teacher, The Forbidden Chikara special.
• 20:28
  No, because there was no Chikara, we might, we might have
• 20:32
  unknowingly, I don't like that story line.
• 20:40
  And I like to say that maybe we kind of want made him want to be
• 20:45
  a wrestling trainer, maybe we had some influence on that.
• 20:48
  I didn't read this book but he might like make half a sentence
• 20:51
  mention. I'm only half kidding here,
• 20:53
  maybe he did. Maybe he didn't, I don't know,
• 20:54
  maybe it had some influence suit.
• 20:56
  If you look at the Northeast scene, right?
• 20:58
  And you look at like the people who came out of here, and the
• 21:00
  people who worked here and like places, like, wxw and Chikara,
• 21:05
  and the sanctuary. And, and all these places,
• 21:08
  there's moments where they take. Um sales seriously.
• 21:10
  But then also you look a lot of the talent and you look at the
• 21:13
  ones who were like our bright spots as talent and they're also
• 21:15
  the ones who don't take themselves super seriously and
• 21:18
  they can do the corny stuff and the entertaining stuff.
• 21:20
  And and they're the ones who last the test of time.
• 21:23
  Because, you know, they're not always jumping off high things
• 21:26
  and breaking their bodies and doing crazy things, but they
• 21:28
  could because they can have a funny squash match or they can
• 21:30
  have a funny bit our skit or develop a character that's going
• 21:34
  to help them. Stay relevant for a while and
• 21:37
  and that's kind of the wrestling that like whether people To like
• 21:40
  it or not. And I know the old heads of the
• 21:42
  world at the cornets say they hate it, but you know what I
• 21:43
  mean? Like, but that's what is fun
• 21:46
  about the professional wrestling scene.
• 21:47
  Is so much of that came out of the Northeast area.
• 21:49
  You know what I mean? Like, every time I see breath,
• 21:52
  best friends on TV, or I see like stuff like that, you're
• 21:54
  like that that's like Northeast Wrestling all over.
• 21:58
  Like that's that's that came from our area, you know, it
• 22:00
  really did and even more so than some Pope people might know that
• 22:04
  are listening. So the best friends.
• 22:06
  Hey, orange, Cassidy name-drop. He was Part of a group that Roch
• 22:10
  brought into owner group. So it was him and lucky and
• 22:14
  Danny Dan Champion. Lucky 13.
• 22:16
  Like, they all almost wore my dad Champions her for this
• 22:20
  podcast, my old time going through my shirt and I was all
• 22:23
  my almost grabbed the damn Champion but I, the prince Ahmed
• 22:26
  was on top, amen. The dance Champions tie-dyed, so
• 22:29
  it just stands out in this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:32
  I'm glad to see such a sweetheart and they're all great
• 22:35
  guys and that was the thing. It was like in a good He fed
• 22:40
  right now. You have to have a good locker
• 22:41
  room. We had a good locker room for
• 22:43
  the most part. There were some politics that
• 22:45
  happened. Of course not everybody in a
• 22:47
  group of 50 and 75 people's going to like each other.
• 22:49
  That's just not going to so you can just not going to happen.
• 22:52
  But for the most part everybody got along and it was just really
• 22:55
  cool after the fact to see these, you know, some you know
• 22:58
  to see the orange Cassidy on TV to see the former New Jersey,
• 23:02
  independent, All-Star, the former JC Rider, it was amazing
• 23:06
  and, you know, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and And tell the
• 23:10
  world this and maybe you shouldn't.
• 23:12
  Because I don't know somebody who hate me or whatever, but I
• 23:15
  have nothing to lose. I'm 43.
• 23:17
  And I'm here in this for whatever if you go and do a
• 23:22
  YouTube search for n. Aw backyard.
• 23:26
  You may find some gems in there when it comes to some of the
• 23:30
  current wrestling toilet here and from New Jersey, So, just
• 23:35
  saying, I thought, I want where, where are they searched this?
• 23:39
  So YouTube, you want to look at n?
• 23:41
  Aw, and and aw, yeah, so you'll find some interesting things if
• 23:46
  you dig for a little bit, but we originally me and a few folks,
• 23:52
  drove up to n. Aw, actually Rush told us that
• 23:55
  this was an indie fed that we are working with.
• 23:59
  And it was more backyard than what we were doing at the time,
• 24:02
  so we're just kind of like screw it, we'll do it anyway.
• 24:04
  I mean, we were in Grandma's backyard, there were, you know,
• 24:06
  seven fans, but we had fun and we really liked everybody there
• 24:11
  and so we brought them aboard. And yes.
• 24:14
  And Eric pain had says we are still family.
• 24:16
  Today, we're all family, all these people and talking about
• 24:19
  like we're, we're still connected.
• 24:21
  And that's the cool part. So, in case you want to know
• 24:25
  what happened. After that stuff, got shut down.
• 24:28
  I started to go. To do and he's now Raj hooked me
• 24:30
  up with, he had this teen icons concept.
• 24:32
  Like you guys are going to be you know, like Beverly Hills
• 24:35
  90210 meets wrestling and so it was me and Showtime, Sean
• 24:39
  Sheridan, can we got thrown right into it?
• 24:43
  So imagine doing this underground, be stuff.
• 24:46
  And then now you're being shipped off to Jersey wrestling.
• 24:50
  Some guy that looks like the Rock and he thinks, you know,
• 24:54
  nice guy. Ralph Soto was his name.
• 24:56
  I can't even find it by the way internet.
• 24:58
  Back then sucked. I can't find a record of this
• 25:00
  card anywhere. And then shipped off to Jersey
• 25:04
  championship wrestling and Jersey all pro wrestling.
• 25:07
  So back, then those are the big bigs.
• 25:09
  And I know JCW became gcw and all that stuff.
• 25:12
  But like to be on cards to be that close to almost Beyond
• 25:16
  cards with Bryan Danielson, with CM Punk because I was about a
• 25:20
  month away from that. When I quit, now I look back and
• 25:24
  go. What was I thinking?
• 25:26
  There's there's a match of troske rustling.
• 25:28
  Daniel Bryant. Yes, it closed down as the shit
• 25:31
  out of them. Yeah.
• 25:32
  Is around the same time, right? Around the Young Lions cup.
• 25:35
  I would have been in, or on the Young Lions Club Card, couple
• 25:39
  hard. Yeah.
• 25:40
  And by the way, I just want to do another plug for the a BJ
• 25:43
  podcast podcast, water bottle, get it at somewhere.
• 25:50
  I have, I have one of these free as well.
• 25:51
  Next show. Yes, beautiful.
• 25:54
  So, yeah, it was a wild ride and after all that Indie stuff
• 25:58
  happened. I hate it in D because again, it
• 26:00
  wasn't my family, that wasn't our thing that We're creating
• 26:03
  anymore. It was somebody else's stuff.
• 26:05
  There were sometimes, no reason people were fighting people and
• 26:08
  I was like, I'm done. I have no money.
• 26:10
  I can't keep traveling out. I need to do something different
• 26:13
  with my life and there were a few reincarnations after that of
• 26:16
  the whole valley seen didn't last long, they You Know, Rich
• 26:21
  Hao ran a couple different federation's.
• 26:23
  We're trying to figure out what they were all called, but he
• 26:25
  brought back a valley championship wrestling.
• 26:27
  At some point he brought back, I did pride of wrestling
• 26:31
  anthracite wrestling. They had, you know, Brodie Lee
• 26:33
  on one of their shows, which was pretty, pretty massive, right.
• 26:38
  It was just crazy times and then stepping away from wrestling for
• 26:41
  the longest time was, was was interesting.
• 26:43
  It was a complete life change. So once your stuffed away, what
• 26:47
  did you start doing? I do have in headfirst into my
• 26:51
  degree. So I went to college at ASU so
• 26:57
  in between VCW dying and then some of this other stuff trying
• 27:00
  to come back to trying to happen.
• 27:03
  I went to ASU for computer programming basically, and I had
• 27:07
  taken a couple years of that already at Penn State and then
• 27:10
  you've University of Scranton, but I was so into wrestling
• 27:13
  height H. So shitty at the universe is
• 27:15
  great. I think had a scholarship and I
• 27:16
  almost lost it. I did so bad.
• 27:17
  I didn't care. Like, I'm like, that's not what
• 27:19
  I want to do. I want to make VCW succeed So
• 27:22
  eventually I went back to school.
• 27:24
  I became the party guy. Is vice pres my fraternity.
• 27:27
  I met some of my best friends that I have today that aren't in
• 27:30
  wrestling whatsoever. And I partied and got a degree.
• 27:35
  And I got to the point where they wanted me to graduate.
• 27:37
  And I'm like, oh, hell no, I'm gonna graduate.
• 27:39
  Like, I like being here. Like, I've finally coming out of
• 27:42
  my shell. There is a shop.
• 27:44
  You Van Wilder you. Yes, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be
• 27:46
  a 15-year kid from, amen. And so I graduated the cyber
• 27:51
  security degree because I wanted to stay one more semester.
• 27:54
  They're like, take a couple classes.
• 27:55
  You'll get a whole different degree and I'm like, great
• 27:57
  because I can, I don't want to program the rest of my life
• 27:59
  that's torture, like, chained me to a keyboard for, for two days,
• 28:02
  straight. And then I'm like, trying to
• 28:04
  make a dog hop on a screen or something, I'm like, no, that's
• 28:06
  definitely not for me. So cyber security Degree.
• 28:10
  Come back to northeast PA, get a couple jobs.
• 28:14
  I worked, I did cybersecurity for a warehouse like
• 28:16
  manufacturing company and music Pennsylvania.
• 28:20
  And then I got an interview with life insurance company in the
• 28:24
  Lehigh Valley. So, There I am.
• 28:26
  There goes my career, my everything became cyber cyber
• 28:29
  cyber security. So I worked my way up from
• 28:31
  entry-level, dude, all the way to.
• 28:34
  Now, I'm ahead of cyber security Assurance, which is a hacker
• 28:37
  team. So that's the last several
• 28:40
  fifth, almost 15 years of my life?
• 28:42
  Well, no wrestling now. Do you still like, watch the
• 28:46
  product, do you still follow the Indie scene, like of, see what
• 28:49
  people are doing? Or did you completely, like,
• 28:51
  wipe your mind from all rustling all together?
• 28:53
  So, when I went to school my home, Thing became my
• 28:58
  fraternity. So I tie jacked out of
• 29:01
  everything. I didn't see the the air that
• 29:03
  came after the Attitude Era in WWE.
• 29:05
  I don't know what happened ruthless aggression aggression.
• 29:08
  Yeah, I didn't watch that ECW came back and died.
• 29:12
  You know, through W bringing so didn't watch that.
• 29:15
  I didn't watch any wrestling then and I heard about things
• 29:17
  going on, I heard about scar. I heard about one of the other
• 29:20
  founders of extreme hardcore championship wrestling, Drew
• 29:24
  Matt Turner. I heard him going through the
• 29:27
  Ring of Honor Academy and getting to do some cool stuff.
• 29:29
  And I kind of watch from afar and I would get, you know,
• 29:31
  Grandma messages for people from time to time keeping me, you
• 29:34
  know, up to date and just really seeing things explode.
• 29:36
  So, I was like, really my really marked out for the things.
• 29:38
  My people were doing like totally marked out, but didn't
• 29:41
  pay attention to the rest for the longest time.
• 29:43
  So, yeah. And then I would a little bit
• 29:46
  like I almost get pulled in. Like, I'd get messages from like
• 29:49
  Danny, you know, I didn't get into it much but Dan and I were
• 29:52
  attacked, were also the teen icons.
• 29:54
  After me and shot Stitch fairness split up.
• 29:57
  Me and Dan, Dan would pay me. And I, when I moved to Lehigh
• 30:00
  Valley, they live across the bridge near Phillipsburg New
• 30:02
  Jersey, some of them. So it would be like, hey, come
• 30:05
  out with us and it turns out it was like Dan's birthday.
• 30:08
  He was out with, you know, obviously orange.
• 30:10
  Cassidy Eddie Kingston, Chuck Taylor.
• 30:13
  And I'm like, I had no idea who these guys were at that time.
• 30:17
  And if I did, I would have gone and I'm like shit there were
• 30:20
  times when they're paying me. Hey, come on, come trade, over
• 30:22
  to car and am done with wrestling guys, you know, I'm
• 30:25
  just I have a fiance now you know I'm trying to do this want
• 30:29
  you to walk in the door and like all those names and Claudio
• 30:32
  would have been there and Brody and I won't like this well maybe
• 30:37
  I wouldn't have because I wouldn't have known who they
• 30:39
  were who we just so weird when we write before well actually it
• 30:43
  was on this channel. Well every now and then we go
• 30:45
  back and review like an old show and we're I'm from like the
• 30:49
  Northeast area where it's more of a like the school County
• 30:52
  side. So the other side of mountain
• 30:54
  from us is like possible. So I'm in, I'm in the so
• 30:57
  possible sky. Like my hangout spot and there
• 30:59
  was Goodfellas, Goodfellas got club and they ran a check our
• 31:02
  show. And we watched the show that
• 31:04
  happened literally 15, 20 minutes from my house, that I
• 31:07
  didn't know existed at the time. And then you go back and you
• 31:09
  watch, you're like, holy shit, dude.
• 31:11
  Like all these people who are now on my TV wrestled in a
• 31:15
  building, that's 20 minutes from my house and I never knew it
• 31:19
  existed. Like that's why I'm telling
• 31:20
  people now like enjoy your independent wrestling seeing
• 31:23
  because you never know, you never know.
• 31:26
  It's crazy. Like I never I never realized
• 31:28
  like name-drop again. Like I'm just going back and try
• 31:30
  to figure out all my matches. And I was like, oh, we used to
• 31:33
  wrestle for this Federation called g b d.
• 31:35
  G b w out near Hanover, not Hanover near Wilkes-Barre.
• 31:38
  But hand over here, like asked Harrisburg, I'm like, Apollo
• 31:42
  Cruz was on the show. Jon, Moxley was on this other
• 31:45
  show, like, holy shit. Like who would have thought, you
• 31:48
  know, it's crazy. You never never never hang out
• 31:51
  with because with Dan champions ever, hang out with ultra - no,
• 31:54
  no, no. That's Guys, awesome.
• 31:56
  Hello Walter - black my coolest. My coolest hangout was the Iron.
• 32:01
  Sheik I know it that show. I mentioned were arrested the
• 32:04
  guy that looked like the rock Iron Sheik was there with the
• 32:07
  six-pack of Budweiser and weed sitting outside the door and
• 32:10
  just like smoking and telling stories that may seem happy.
• 32:15
  Yeah, I mean, surreal, surreal, but that's, that's the thing.
• 32:19
  You're, you don't know who you're standing next to Across
• 32:21
  the ring from in the locker room.
• 32:23
  Next to just bullshitting with backstage for the you A couple
• 32:26
  hours it takes to get I show when you're not my craziest
• 32:29
  wrestling moment is we're good word hamburg for the legends of
• 32:33
  icons festival and we get there early and I'm nervous because
• 32:37
  it's like some still early into like having like I think it's my
• 32:39
  first con that I never a part of and right before the show for my
• 32:44
  anxiety, I go. And I take a couple whacks will
• 32:48
  say, and I go in, I'm like, hi, I'm Schell.
• 32:50
  I'm calm, and I'm sitting there and we're setting up our table
• 32:53
  and I get a pat on the butt. Like someone's passed me on the
• 32:57
  butt and I'm like, what's up, baby?
• 32:58
  How you doing? And I go.
• 33:00
  My turn Jimmy Hart, just turn it off, and it just stops and has a
• 33:04
  full conversation with me. Like, we've been best friends
• 33:06
  for 15 years and then he walks away.
• 33:08
  And I look at my friend Brian. I'm like that, that, that just
• 33:11
  happened that, like, Jimmy hard to stop.
• 33:13
  Like, like those moments. Like, you try to be like I'm in
• 33:16
  the business now, but then you meet like someone you watch
• 33:18
  since you're a kid and you're like that, that's crazy.
• 33:21
  Like it's just, I don't know. It's neat.
• 33:22
  It's a fun business man. Okay, it certainly is and I'll
• 33:26
  tell you what. And, since we're getting into
• 33:28
  the business, The reasons I had to come back to wrestling was
• 33:33
  good. You know, I wanted to help out
• 33:35
  rocks and I definitely wanted to be involved.
• 33:37
  Somehow cybersecurity could take a lot out of you from a mental
• 33:41
  health perspective, all you're doing is solving difficult
• 33:44
  problems, all day. Trying to figure out ways to do
• 33:48
  things with very little people because the, you know, those Bad
• 33:51
  actors. The attackers hack stuff.
• 33:53
  They have so much money and time they have their own
• 33:55
  corporations. Meanwhile, you have your little
• 33:57
  rinky-dink team that's just coming up.
• 33:58
  Trying to learn cyber security. And on the fly to defend all
• 34:02
  this stuff and it takes everything out of you.
• 34:04
  So, you know, I got to a point from a mental health perspective
• 34:07
  where I couldn't get out of the Matrix ever.
• 34:11
  So I'm like, I need to slowly distance myself from this and do
• 34:14
  something different. And the second thing that kind
• 34:17
  of brought me back into it all. And, you know, again, all of
• 34:20
  those things we've talked about, super super exciting, but it's
• 34:23
  this. What the hell is that?
• 34:25
  John Wright covid. So, I got covid over two years.
• 34:30
  Years ago. And when I did it wiped out my
• 34:32
  smell and taste, and then a few months later, it distorted my
• 34:35
  smell and taste, and it's never come back.
• 34:38
  So what I have to smell these essential oils sticks multiple
• 34:41
  times a day. This is what I wear when I eat.
• 34:44
  So if you see me this is why I don't eat public usually because
• 34:47
  they look like a clown and I know I should be myself up like
• 34:50
  that. I get it.
• 34:50
  But yeah, it's really hard. So I've got this like weird
• 34:53
  disability that disconnect me from people.
• 34:55
  So now as I'm reclaiming my life from cybersecurity, I can't be a
• 34:58
  normal person again and wrestling gives me a way to kind
• 35:01
  of be normal to connect with people and it not have to be,
• 35:05
  you know, excluding myself at a corner to eat.
• 35:07
  Or just make me feel weird, like and the wrestling locker rooms
• 35:11
  are so accepting. They don't care who you are,
• 35:13
  what background? You're from.
• 35:14
  A lot of the folks you meet are just like, yeah, we're in this
• 35:17
  together. We're all just a bunch of little
• 35:18
  kids inside and we're just gonna have fun dude, and like to be
• 35:21
  able to come back into that and survive, you know, Corporate
• 35:25
  America for 15 years survive, you know, be able to shift from
• 35:28
  focusing on my disability. What I can't have you're
• 35:30
  focusing on. The present has been so
• 35:32
  therapeutic for me, like just insanely therapeutic.
• 35:35
  We have, we have a little bit of Common Ground here.
• 35:37
  So I also have a disability. I have II bought doesn't produce
• 35:41
  collagen, so I have that's called EDS ehlers-danlos
• 35:45
  syndrome. So I'm extremely hyper mobile
• 35:48
  have hypermobility and I dislocate.
• 35:50
  And I have really bad arthritis, and joint pain and all that
• 35:53
  stuff, real. And I was diagnosed at 13 and
• 35:56
  all I knew growing up with sports and athletes and
• 35:58
  wrestling and basketball and soccer.
• 36:01
  And as I got older, it just I just started fading away so
• 36:04
  podcasting Essentially led to me getting away from using my body
• 36:09
  and using my mind in my voice and that led me to professional
• 36:12
  wrestling. But wrestling, the once again,
• 36:13
  isn't as an Avenue where I was obsessed with as a kid and I
• 36:16
  would love to get in there and do things but I can't but
• 36:19
  because it's so exacting accepting and there's so many
• 36:21
  roles you can do within the professional wrestling world.
• 36:24
  I can sit at commentary, I can sit and ring a bell.
• 36:26
  I can be backstage and interview.
• 36:28
  Somebody I can sit on a podcast and talk to Talent which I agree
• 36:32
  with you man. Like and especially this this
• 36:34
  570 Northeast Wrestling family, man.
• 36:36
  Like I I'm fortunate within a year and a half.
• 36:40
  I've got the travel three different states and work for
• 36:42
  probably six or seven to eight different companies.
• 36:45
  But man, there's something about this area.
• 36:47
  We're like we're I know an Eric and a brat are going to be.
• 36:51
  There are a Pete are a rush or you know, an Alex watt or a kit
• 36:57
  Raph are an AJ Evers or I can go on and on and on and on if I
• 37:01
  know they're in the locker room, that's like going to a family
• 37:04
  reunions. You want to be at you don't
• 37:05
  know. Like and it's so welcoming
• 37:07
  because everyone loves you and everyone wants you to be there
• 37:10
  and and it's more than just like the fans out in the crowd or are
• 37:13
  there for a wrestling show. But we're also there to
• 37:16
  entertain, but like, we feel like a team going out and doing
• 37:19
  it, and that's just an environment.
• 37:20
  I've it's hard to replicate in different wrestling companies
• 37:23
  and different locker rooms. Yeah, I mean, that's that's why
• 37:26
  we do it and my fiance Lindsay. She, she helps out a lot and
• 37:30
  with smash Master, she's helping me with production but she's
• 37:32
  also, you know, she hopes the chief we call it the Chief
• 37:35
  Financial Officer. She, she takes the tickets and
• 37:37
  make sure that, you know, everybody gets their money Rush
• 37:40
  gets his money. She's kind of like did not
• 37:43
  realize what this was like behind the scenes nobody does
• 37:45
  and it's easy to get addicted to it.
• 37:47
  You realize you're entering a family like with no pretenses.
• 37:50
  Whether you have 85 years of experience, he come from the
• 37:53
  backyard, your training, you're not training, you're just
• 37:55
  learning. Everybody's trying to be
• 37:57
  something and just have fun and its really supportive than I saw
• 38:00
  that immediately would backstage at smash Master, like the
• 38:03
  culture I mentioned culture, it's insane.
• 38:06
  It's insane. No we don't we can't afford to
• 38:08
  pay orange Cassidy to come in you know?
• 38:11
  And you know wrestler we can't we can't bring on folks like ppw
• 38:15
  do we just don't have that or ppw or even it would often
• 38:18
  Juniors doing now. They have they have connections
• 38:20
  that we don't have that money we don't have you know.
• 38:23
  So what's really really critical is that we have the passion
• 38:27
  together and everybody everybody in the back wants this to
• 38:30
  succeed and just that got infectious to and I'm like, yes
• 38:33
  Rajesh, I'll help you out every single way I can.
• 38:36
  I want to help everybody out and it's just me.
• 38:39
  I won't buy this from us standpoint.
• 38:41
  It might get me my get me he that might not but I've worked
• 38:44
  for those companies and I've worked and I've been backstage
• 38:46
  at those companies and they're great.
• 38:48
  And I loved I loved the opportunities.
• 38:49
  They gave me. Oh, he just got disconnected for
• 38:52
  a second. Your can't your microphone or
• 38:55
  camera? Just shut up.
• 38:57
  Let's see. Can you hear me?
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  I'll will remove them till they pass back on.
• 39:04
  I'm not sure if the camera so hold my thought but guys real
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  quick while I'm killing time here till he pops back on.
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  Yeah dude. Check the links below.
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  So you can, you can check them out.
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  We are currently at 225 subscribers on the quest to 1 K.
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  So definitely those would really help out.
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  I think he's back. Am I back?
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  And yes, we hear you know who what happened guys, win as well
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  cybersecurity. They are trying to take down the
• 40:17
  a BJ podcast. Yeah.
• 40:19
  I must be given away like Secrets or something.
• 40:21
  They're monitoring a man. Yeah.
• 40:23
  Yeah. But what I was gonna say before
• 40:24
  and this is no hate Teddy. Those companies.
• 40:26
  I appreciate all the support and love.
• 40:27
  They've given me when I was backstage and stuff.
• 40:29
  I do for those companies but you know, sometimes those companies
• 40:33
  guys just are there for their check you know.
• 40:36
  And that's that's clear and apparent and if they don't get
• 40:38
  the check they don't come back and there's nothing wrong with
• 40:40
  At either cause you know sometimes getting paid and
• 40:43
  coming to work for a promotion is one thing.
• 40:45
  But I've also worked at promotions where everybody walks
• 40:48
  in with the same thing. They would they let everybody
• 40:50
  walks out with the same thing. They walked in with, but it's
• 40:53
  just a general passion of making art with your friends and being
• 40:56
  part of a locker room and being like, hey, we enjoy this this
• 40:59
  profession, and we love this business, but we also have the
• 41:02
  same common interest of making where we are right now, bigger
• 41:05
  than what it is. So it's one thing to come in and
• 41:08
  take a paycheck to work for a company.
• 41:10
  But it's also another thing to walk into a company and be like,
• 41:13
  I'm working for this company to try to make this something this
• 41:16
  company. Something bigger, you know what
• 41:18
  I mean? And that's and honestly, that's
• 41:20
  how your your ecw's have Rose. That's how your gcw is have
• 41:24
  Rose. That's how your czw is, have
• 41:26
  rows. And your shekhar has because
• 41:27
  everyone who is part of that locker room was a part of that
• 41:31
  locker room and they took pride in that locker room and they
• 41:33
  made that locker room, something bigger than it was.
• 41:36
  And it wasn't someone just walking in the door.
• 41:38
  Hey, can I get my envelope? I'm going to go do a match and
• 41:40
  I'm out of here. And that's a difference.
• 41:42
  That's the clear difference between a lot of locker rooms.
• 41:44
  Yeah, I always thought like what advice would I give younger
• 41:47
  folks looking to get into it. Don't do it for the money.
• 41:50
  Don't think there's ever going to be money there?
• 41:53
  I think the most I've ever gotten paid was like 10 bucks,
• 41:56
  like that's vacuum 2002. That was a lot.
• 42:00
  We're gonna pay it. I was like, are you sure?
• 42:01
  Yeah, look at him. He's got animal 10.
• 42:04
  Shiny 10 got a whole shiny nickel was great.
• 42:08
  So here's what I want to do the podcast, I think, if I The
• 42:10
  things you can hashtag the right.
• 42:12
  So if I say Joe Rogan, you can do hashtag Joe Rogan.
• 42:14
  I think so. Yeah, maybe has a little
• 42:16
  broccoli, Mighty wall. No, yeah, orange Cassie, he WWE,
• 42:20
  right. What else can I say?
• 42:21
  Covid. We talked about my disability as
• 42:23
  a result of code, but you could hashtag covid, Oru slowly
• 42:27
  getting any of that back. Or what is like how does that
• 42:29
  come about? So it's just different
• 42:32
  distortions. So, nothing tastes normal,
• 42:36
  period, not a thing, click coffee and And poop have the
• 42:42
  same smell to me and neither it doesn't smell like coffee or
• 42:46
  poop. Okay.
• 42:47
  So imagine that. But everything like anything
• 42:51
  you're about to have is actually a benefit for being at wrestling
• 42:54
  shows. The sometimes I almost got
• 42:55
  healed commentary because sometimes those stinkin fans.
• 42:58
  Now tell our people don't wash their gear.
• 43:01
  Yeah, well you don't know what character character, can't you
• 43:05
  give you ever wrestling character who can't smell.
• 43:07
  So they put you against like, Dirtbag, Dan.
• 43:09
  And you remove the dirt bag down.
• 43:10
  And because you can't smell them.
• 43:12
  Give Russia any ideas for the next Christmas show.
• 43:15
  Okay. Cuz I have enough gimmicks, I
• 43:17
  don't need, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, get to go back to
• 43:23
  the wrestling such Community. If you could be involved, get
• 43:25
  involved. That's one thing I always say.
• 43:27
  And for all those fans out there, people watching this
• 43:29
  podcast goat. Well I don't, I'm not a
• 43:32
  wrestling fan. Yeah.
• 43:33
  But do you watch action movies? Do you like Broadway?
• 43:37
  It's all of that stuff. But like, a looking for a group
• 43:39
  of friends because you have You don't have a friend.
• 43:42
  It could be that easy. Can you, can you make graphics?
• 43:45
  Can you help make graphics on a poster?
• 43:47
  Can you hold a camera? Can you collect a ticket?
• 43:50
  Can you, there's so much you can do, and I promise you, if you
• 43:53
  get in the door doing those things, you're going to meet a
• 43:56
  culture of people. You're going to love and cherish
• 43:58
  for the rest of your life. Amen.
• 44:00
  Amen. And you know what?
• 44:02
  It was, it silly of Dante, corny movie.
• 44:05
  Once I thought I was out, they pulled me back in and that's it.
• 44:09
  You know everyone says I'll Rush Billy.
• 44:11
  Hey, are you doing anything here with this?
• 44:13
  And that Sanctuary to Mike. I'm not a wrestler anymore, but
• 44:16
  I'm rusted out again. So I guess you don't, you don't
• 44:19
  stop learning how to ride bikes, right?
• 44:21
  But everybody who can go to a wrestling show, a local One
• 44:23
  support right there Mom. You know, they're your mom and
• 44:26
  pop businesses WWE. I saw NXT mentioned, they've got
• 44:30
  so big, such huge budgets. They have a lot of choices.
• 44:32
  They have a lot of options, we're just kind of limited by
• 44:36
  every and he's kind of Livin by just trying to get to the next
• 44:38
  show. Trying to figure out how to get
• 44:40
  enough. Make it to the next show in the
• 44:41
  next show in the next show so we can all keep living our dreams.
• 44:44
  Yeah, so XT and XT is essentially picked clean from
• 44:47
  roh. Roh is essentially picked clean
• 44:49
  from Northeast Wrestling scene, who all came from the
• 44:52
  Independent wrestling backyard areas, you know?
• 44:54
  I mean and it's we're going to keep feeding them.
• 44:57
  Yeah, maybe Jane. We're going to keep feeding
• 44:58
  them, we got them up coming up like crazy.
• 45:00
  Like, when I saw what I write here, here's your prince Ahmed.
• 45:06
  What? I mean, I met him backstage.
• 45:09
  Couldn't be nicer guy. Wild man in the ring just
• 45:12
  completely Innovative does. You know, I remember might have
• 45:15
  been on your podcast. I heard it.
• 45:16
  He just invented a move out of nowhere on the fly.
• 45:19
  Like yes, that stuff is what I'm here for those artists, right?
• 45:24
  A mighty met backstage, really good.
• 45:27
  Dude. He's a dad, you know, he's a
• 45:29
  firefighter and he's a wild man in the ring like this.
• 45:33
  This is the guy. If you want to watch anybody
• 45:34
  coming up one of the one of the talent I shouldn't say guy
• 45:38
  because there's a lot of girls that are coming up in that
• 45:40
  order. Early in northeast PA wrestling
• 45:42
  that are going to be something severe.
• 45:43
  But a mighty, he's going to be something big, keep your eye on
• 45:46
  him. It, I'm excited for him.
• 45:47
  Verse kit, that's a mobile over again.
• 45:50
  That smash Master 40th, birthday party a mighty Rivers kit.
• 45:54
  MIT just put on a really good match recently to with that
• 45:56
  no-good dirty rotten. Scum bag.
• 45:58
  Ricky price. Hate that kid.
• 46:01
  Another local Thai wasn't wearing a shirt last podcast.
• 46:04
  It was a glitch. He hacked into my camera and put
• 46:07
  it on. I was wearing something
• 46:08
  completely different. That's amazing.
• 46:10
  Hey Ricky price. We're looking for some good
• 46:12
  hackers for hire so it my dams, but yeah.
• 46:18
  So and you also yourself have a little bit of a content creator
• 46:21
  yourself as now. Well as well now as I don't know
• 46:25
  what I'm trying to say. I don't freakin truck talking
• 46:27
  you're a content creator correct kind of yeah I mean this goes
• 46:31
  back to When Brad de Mayo Bruno de Mayo, Bruno, Serafini
• 46:37
  serafall of his gimmicks that he's gone through over the time.
• 46:40
  Yeah. Had this kind of Taz version of
• 46:42
  his character and we took a kiss song and I remixed, it cut it up
• 46:46
  and kind of took up all the kiss parts and kept the guitars and
• 46:49
  stuff. So I was able to kind of just
• 46:51
  hack together stuff, I'm in DIY guy so I don't I don't have the
• 46:55
  attention span of a fly. If I use a watch a YouTube video
• 46:58
  on how to do something I'm done in 3 seconds, I can't do it.
• 47:01
  So figured out how to do that myself, I'm figuring out how to
• 47:04
  use the YouTube or the the histogram reels and stuff now
• 47:08
  just to get content out there and I like being a from the
• 47:11
  camera. I've I've had a camera since I
• 47:12
  was like 10 years old, my grandmother bought me a camera
• 47:15
  and I've always been in front of the camera.
• 47:16
  So I'm like, I'm gonna do some stuff and I don't know if
• 47:20
  anybody watches or doesn't and frankly it's you know no
• 47:23
  offense. Everybody that watches thank you
• 47:24
  but I don't care. I do it for me.
• 47:26
  I do it for me for fun. I'm in that same boat.
• 47:29
  I mean I definitely want to strive and make this something
• 47:31
  but I also said like I want to make this community so I can
• 47:34
  then take my community and feed it in something else.
• 47:36
  So if I can get a couple thousand subscribers and they're
• 47:39
  all over the world and they Go and subscribe to a YouTube
• 47:42
  channel that I do commentary for a company.
• 47:44
  I pride myself in and helps them get some views and people fall
• 47:47
  in love with the same people. I'm watching every weekend.
• 47:49
  That's my goal to grow my brand. That's awesome.
• 47:52
  I'm glad you have goals. I don't know what that's like,
• 47:53
  man. I just wing it.
• 47:55
  I will I have goals but I wing it while I get there.
• 47:58
  I'm definitely like even the wrestling business when someone
• 48:00
  first came to me like hey can you do this?
• 48:02
  And I was like, yeah, man, Donald time and then I do it,
• 48:05
  they're like yo man, how long you been doing it?
• 48:07
  Oh, that was my second time ever trying that.
• 48:11
  Yeah. Like why do you tell someone?
• 48:13
  Because you wouldn't let me do it.
• 48:14
  If I told you it was my first time even though now low in the
• 48:17
  wrestling business, they definitely would have because
• 48:18
  they didn't have anybody else for that spot.
• 48:20
  But but yeah, so where can people like, what type of
• 48:24
  content do you make? Like, what do you what do you
• 48:25
  do? So right now it's just kind of
• 48:28
  promotional stuff for JS Michaels.
• 48:30
  So right now it's kind of like promos a little bit promos a
• 48:34
  little bit of like just quick here's which is Michaels is
• 48:38
  thinking about this upcoming match.
• 48:39
  Not that I have a bunch of matches.
• 48:40
  I have Hope calendar. And I'm not looking to fill it.
• 48:42
  That's what I always say. I don't mind wrestling, but
• 48:45
  enough to wrestle full-time, I'm old.
• 48:48
  And at some point I might get hurt even though you know keep
• 48:51
  in shape and stuff. I don't got to pay the bills
• 48:53
  first and foremost. So yeah.
• 48:56
  But I like just to put together stupid stuff, stupid shit like
• 48:58
  jazz Michaels is an idiot. He is probably a modern
• 49:02
  combination of list of Jericho Jericho.
• 49:05
  Seth Rollins probably with a little bit of La night.
• 49:10
  Mixed in a little bit of Dolph Ziggler like he's just a dumb
• 49:13
  ass, you know. And that's all I supposed to be
• 49:16
  and that's okay. And he's gonna have fun but then
• 49:19
  you know I said I'm going to create another character, I'm
• 49:20
  going to do you know something that's near and dear to my heart
• 49:23
  since I was, I don't know, probably 10 years older.
• 49:25
  So I had a cousin named Jody and she was into the hair bands,
• 49:29
  well, into the 90s, but they weren't around anymore and they
• 49:32
  were kind of like hair metal, love it.
• 49:34
  Yeah. So she actually is a good friend
• 49:37
  of Bret, Michaels for poison, which I came to find out and I
• 49:39
  was so fucking Happy. When I found that I'm like you
• 49:41
  can't I can't believe it but I spent Summers with her and
• 49:44
  really love the hair rent then. So that's part of me just like
• 49:48
  jazz Michaels is part of me. It's not a character part of me.
• 49:51
  Well, Johnny Rocket is this New Concept?
• 49:53
  I'm working on. I got this ridiculous hair band
• 49:56
  wig and I do this like, really bad English accent and I am, you
• 50:01
  know, Johnny Rockets right? I want to wrestle.
• 50:04
  It's a face as Johnny Rocket, right?
• 50:06
  So I want to Glam Rock might need a partner.
• 50:08
  That's what I was thinking. Yeah.
• 50:10
  Show me your rocket but I think I think that stuff is fun just
• 50:13
  being able to play a character because like even at work,
• 50:16
  there's there's so many rules as to how you can behave in a
• 50:19
  corporate environment and the company I work for.
• 50:22
  Yeah, there's not as many rules nowadays.
• 50:25
  Like, you can be yourself. You just have those corporate
• 50:27
  confines? This is my art.
• 50:29
  I can do whatever the hell I want, right?
• 50:31
  If I want to create another, can another character on top of
• 50:33
  that? I give you that, it doesn't
• 50:34
  matter. There's nobody to tell me, I
• 50:35
  can't, bro. If I ain't how every Trend and
• 50:38
  style comes back. And right now, we're kind of in
• 50:40
  that. The 90s early 2000s are coming
• 50:42
  back. Like in everyone's into that.
• 50:44
  Like I just I want to I want to get skinny again right.
• 50:47
  I'd never I still kind of wear skinny jeans, a little bit.
• 50:49
  I can't get rid of them but like if like dial at ourselves come
• 50:52
  back and I can make my long hair 80s style and I can.
• 50:55
  And I mean like I would 100% revert back to what hair battle
• 50:58
  guy, never even lived in that era.
• 51:00
  I just love that look like Steel Panther and Motley Crue.
• 51:04
  And like, all those bands that came like the hair metal band.
• 51:06
  I love them. Love them.
• 51:07
  Van Halen like all that stuff. Yeah and look.
• 51:10
  I mean, I'm such a big fan of the 90s and early 2000s and
• 51:14
  really the the whole 911 situation sent the country in
• 51:17
  total different direction for so long.
• 51:18
  Like it's so refreshing, we can come back and just start to
• 51:22
  really enjoy life and just rock out, right?
• 51:25
  So and then I mentioned, JS Michaels, he's an extension, my
• 51:28
  character to that, I can't be at work or in the real world.
• 51:31
  He's easier early version of troll, right?
• 51:34
  He's not going to slap the fans hands, right?
• 51:37
  And he's going to do stupid shit like over-the-top Battle.
• 51:40
  Royal. I got to Jet them such as
• 51:42
  Michaels, he got to pin Falls in an over-the-top Battle.
• 51:44
  Royal who else can say that? Besides the experience Jas
• 51:49
  Michael's, right? I like when they have battle
• 51:52
  royales, when you can Pinterest emitted a vendor, I think
• 51:54
  they're entertaining monster men try to do with the yoga Zumba
• 51:58
  and then got thrown out on monster man is historically, the
• 52:00
  worst guy in a Royal Rumble of all time.
• 52:02
  He's just terrible at it. He's terrible error.
• 52:05
  One of the greatest wrestlers, what war?
• 52:06
  He's the worst that rumbles? Yeah, anything else?
• 52:10
  I mean, Getting close to the end here.
• 52:11
  If anyone is watching live and you have any questions, anything
• 52:14
  you want to add in there? Please, please, please put him
• 52:16
  out there and I'll kind of give you guys and I'll let you be
• 52:20
  part of this as well. They'll run down.
• 52:23
  So, right now we have you on the next.
• 52:26
  On this Thursday, I'm going to be 2 into interviews, back to
• 52:28
  back with Philly, Mike Swanson at 3:00 and then at 5:00, Riley
• 52:32
  Crow. Now then then on Sunday will be
• 52:35
  Angel Metro. Then on Valentine's Day, I'll be
• 52:39
  eating some chocolates and Having my dinner date with Alex
• 52:42
  watt. The following Thursday will be
• 52:45
  with Paige, then I'll have the boys from Welcome Back, podcast
• 52:49
  on. Then we'll be ending the month
• 52:51
  with Shelby, and then the very end of the month will be the one
• 52:54
  and only Edina steel. So, very very exciting month.
• 52:57
  A lot of our good friends, on this podcast, the entire month
• 53:01
  of March booked. I have in all of March is good
• 53:05
  to go. I have everyone booked we're
• 53:07
  still doing two a week for the month of March April.
• 53:10
  Is still open but I'm not sure yet.
• 53:12
  If I'm going to do two a week in April or if I'm going to dial it
• 53:15
  back to 11 a month on that. But we're already in the chat.
• 53:20
  Not really a question more of a statement.
• 53:21
  Shelby water says, I'm excited to beat you up on Saturday, not
• 53:25
  a chance Waters. You see, she comes across as
• 53:28
  this like, cool surfer, chick type thing, guess what?
• 53:32
  Shelly Waters is actually a heel in Disguise.
• 53:34
  I've seen her distracting referees.
• 53:37
  I see the attitude there. She's going to try to cheat to
• 53:39
  win and I'm gonna Do whatever I can to stop that from happening.
• 53:42
  We're going to take her surfboard, throw it in the back,
• 53:45
  and if she's gonna be chasing it backstage, she won't even have a
• 53:47
  chance to enter the match. I'm not JS.
• 53:49
  Michaels is not worried about Shelby Waters.
• 53:52
  I actually made a prediction during a Shelby Waters match
• 53:55
  site, you know. So every now and then, I like to
• 53:57
  throw a little quirks in there to mess with people on
• 53:59
  commentary. And I knew a few people were
• 54:01
  watching that were will just say right wing leaning politicians.
• 54:07
  So, when she came out, she had all the blue like, lights behind
• 54:09
  her, and she's the blue. Ooh, waves shall be Waters and I
• 54:12
  said the Blue Wave is going to be taken over in a couple of
• 54:14
  weeks and then they actually did like like the final Runway of
• 54:19
  never happened and I was like that's because she'll be water,
• 54:21
  is one of them and I think it was like her first win to on in
• 54:25
  the ring is sanctuary. So it's pretty funny Hunter said
• 54:28
  if you can give any piece of advice to a young JS, Michaels
• 54:33
  believe in yourself kid, nobody believed in me that was part of
• 54:37
  why I stopped wrestling to begin with.
• 54:39
  I didn't have Somebody to tell me keep going, that was like an
• 54:43
  experienced person. People be like, yeah, you're
• 54:45
  pretty good and all the subsets like, in my echo chamber, but my
• 54:48
  fam was like, what the hell are you doing?
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  You know, I dated girls who's, you know, families and friends
• 54:52
  made fun of me for doing this. So I got pushed out because
• 54:55
  nobody could leave, but I would have said you can do it, then
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  you can do it. Keep going.
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  Keep going. You got this.
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  You're okay. Yeah.
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  And don't really listen to your house like if you have your
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  tribe of people and it's not something that everybody else is
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  into, if it's I heard anybody who cares what other people
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  think like, yeah, you're not going to sit there and tell me,
• 55:15
  not one person in their memory and their lifetime.
• 55:17
  At one point in time, was not a pro wrestling fan, and if you
• 55:20
  tell me, you weren't you're a liar.
• 55:21
  And if you tell me, you don't like professional wrestling, but
• 55:23
  you do like other things, I'm going to say, oh, what about,
• 55:27
  what do you like? I like MMA.
• 55:28
  Oh yeah. What some of your favorite?
• 55:30
  I love Conor McGregor. Oh, you mean the guy who's
• 55:32
  trying to be Ric Flair? Okay, tell me how you don't like
• 55:34
  pro wrestling. Yeah, you know it's fake.
• 55:37
  Its fake. I'm a professional wrestler, guy
• 55:43
  makes a sack or they do something.
• 55:45
  What do they reference pro wrestling?
• 55:47
  It's part of its more in pop culture than people think it is.
• 55:51
  It's more intertwined in our world and it's, and it's the
• 55:53
  most honestly you want to sit there and brag about baseball
• 55:56
  and basketball. Pro wrestling is the most
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  American thing ever created and it's the only thing that has
• 56:02
  transitioned from America to other parts of the world and was
• 56:05
  adopted by the entire world. Yeah, and the other thing I
• 56:09
  would say is everybody, you know, this goes out every at
• 56:12
  that, find your own group of people that will support your
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  dreams. Yeah, don't worry about the
• 56:16
  rest, right? Don't worry about the haters,
• 56:19
  they're hating because they're jealous or because they have
• 56:21
  their own insecurities. Don't worry about find yourself
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  a diamond City War Machine. Find yourself up here along,
• 56:27
  find yourself a rash, like find people who are, who are, you
• 56:31
  know, it does help that they're from the 570 but find people who
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  are literally like that, they're going to tell you when you're
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  wrong, but also lift. Up when you need it and tell you
• 56:38
  when you're doing the right thing as well.
• 56:39
  And that really helps. And that's why I'm very thankful
• 56:42
  of being part of the 570 and being part of this family.
• 56:45
  And this and this group and meeting you man, I'm we met at
• 56:47
  like to miss smash master show and here we are Chillin.
• 56:50
  Now we're going to bars and stuff together.
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  It's a good time. Absolutely.
• 56:53
  And I promise, we talk about non wrestling stuff when we did
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  that. So I want to get more people to
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  watch because this is not just a show about wrestling a podcast.
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  About rest of this about life, this is about stories.
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  This is what I'm watching. People live their dreams and
• 57:05
  figuring out the nuances of To wear clip and just all the
• 57:09
  things you would never know about people.
• 57:11
  This isn't podcasting, you know, General going to drop again.
• 57:14
  I learned about people on Joe Rogan podcast.
• 57:16
  I wouldn't normally ever meet you're gonna meet so many
• 57:18
  diverse people on here, doing different things, you mentioned
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  page. Stop wrestler, page is a
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  phenomenal photographer, right? But you have so much to learn
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  about her journey. Please tune in watch.
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  Don't just some of you might have joined because I look, it's
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  John right? I know him from this.
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  This is that watch them all. Listen.
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  To the mall like follow subscribe.
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  I know. I sound like a commercial to do
• 57:41
  it. I mean, you need to learn about
• 57:42
  people that aren't like, yourselves opening behind my
• 57:45
  first interview was at was an independent heart.
• 57:47
  Like he is a guy from our area who made his own independent
• 57:49
  horror movie, that was banned all over the world because of
• 57:52
  the occur due to the violence that was in it.
• 57:55
  I interviewed a guy who tours all over the world as a drummer
• 57:58
  in a band, like, I'm down to interview anybody.
• 58:00
  I have had some people hit me up in the links, it's just, I'm so
• 58:03
  intertwined in the wrestling Community.
• 58:04
  That's where a lot of my guests come from, and we do
• 58:06
  intertwined. Wrestling.
• 58:07
  But like you said it's people so it's storytelling.
• 58:10
  It's learning about people in general.
• 58:12
  Actually, you know what? While you're here, we do have a
• 58:14
  couple minutes, do you want do you want a little sneak peek of
• 58:16
  March, let's hear it. All right.
• 58:19
  So March 1st episode, boom Harden.
• 58:22
  Right now, he's in a tag team with the Sean Pratt, which is
• 58:25
  another person I want to get on this podcast so bad.
• 58:27
  I love to Sean. Then it's going to be some, we
• 58:29
  talked about on this episode, a mighty will be on the podcast
• 58:33
  and in March, then we'll be having the one and only the most
• 58:37
  entertaining. Painting, dirty scumbag in the
• 58:39
  professional wrestling world, Tommy Vex will be on podcast,
• 58:43
  Jaden steal Mike's Kairos. Then we have back-to-back not
• 58:48
  together, but separate probably the Hawaii would say who the
• 58:52
  people have taken me under their wing.
• 58:53
  So much in this independent wrestling, professional
• 58:55
  wrestling World, Eric pin hat on the 21st, and then, Brad de Mayo
• 58:58
  on the 23rd Nathaniel cutting Ham on the 28th and then I'm
• 59:02
  ending the month. I'm like Iran in this month.
• 59:04
  Ending it with the queen of Dana but now I'm ending.
• 59:07
  Works with another queen and that's Mary Beth is awesome.
• 59:11
  And it's an awesome lineup and you're getting a good mix of
• 59:14
  talent from all from all over the place, he gets him smash
• 59:16
  Master folks but also folks are up and coming from different
• 59:19
  areas to really tell their stories.
• 59:20
  So and what you're going to do, folks listeners, you're going to
• 59:23
  fall in love with some of these people.
• 59:24
  And then, you're going to want to go to wrestling shows because
• 59:26
  you want to see what that's all about.
• 59:27
  Like, I just met the person. What is the wrestler like, what
• 59:30
  are they doing in the ring? What are they dressed?
• 59:31
  Like so, and very things that then you're not going to
• 59:34
  experience at that. Your you at our other shows that
• 59:36
  we go. To that, you wouldn't have some
• 59:38
  other ones is these rustles come out from the back, and they will
• 59:41
  come talk to you the kids and they will interact and they will
• 59:43
  be part of it. And even if they don't have
• 59:45
  merged to sell, they still come out and say hi to everybody.
• 59:47
  You know what I mean? Like it's not like the WB when
• 59:49
  you sit in your seat you watch them come to the ring.
• 59:51
  They go to the back you never see them ever again.
• 59:53
  It's a very personal experience and you're going to have a blast
• 59:57
  and support supporting independent wrestling wherever
• 1:00:00
  wherever you are just starts to show us coming up.
• 1:00:02
  I guarantee you'll go and it's not like it was and I'm not
• 1:00:05
  trying to throw shade but it well it's not like it was Back
• 1:00:07
  in the day where people were still kind of figure things out
• 1:00:10
  these people who are going through the training and doing
• 1:00:12
  everything. They're doing now are on a
• 1:00:13
  completely different level of professional wrestling, and
• 1:00:16
  they're so entertaining in their athletic and and it's such a
• 1:00:19
  good mix of the old school meeting with the new school.
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  That's what you're going to get at this northeast Silo where
• 1:00:23
  you're going to get these old-school, guys, working with a
• 1:00:25
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• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:31
  But JS, thank you so much again for coming on the podcast.
• 1:00:35
  I appreciate you. My guy, I cannot wait to see.
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  You in a on this this weekend, at at the show.
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  You're going to see a lot of really upcoming Talent going to
• 1:01:02
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• 1:01:05
  to be the best way to the see the show.
• 1:01:07
  It's come out and see a live. I'll be on commentary as well as
• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:14
  plug? Our get out there.
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  Just want to say like follow subscribe any Indy Talent
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:39
  What? He's considered?
• 1:01:39
  Six snowflakes. So if you add all their ages up,
• 1:01:42
  it's probably not as old as me but I hopefully am not going to
• 1:01:44
  come out, you know, wheel in my way in a walker.
• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:50
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  What you gonna book me for you? Maybe a teen icon again and you
• 1:02:08
  can call me a teen anymore. Rashi a little bit old for that
• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:13
  Thank you so much. Best of luck with your podcast.
• 1:02:16
  Hopefully, I'll come back sometime in the future talking
• 1:02:19
  about some other random bag of someone's life.
• 1:02:21
  Doors, always open brother. It's always over.
• 1:02:23
  I haven't booked my first return guest yet, but I'm sure I'm sure
• 1:02:26
  they'll start coming soon. Yeah, because at least before
• 1:02:28
  I'm 60, that would be great. So you know, that's only 10
• 1:02:31
  years from now or whatever, but, and all good.
• 1:02:34
  A DJ and all an old icon Hey, I'm probably better at things.
• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:44
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