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6-02-26 Hour 2 - Responding to Bill Simmons/Chris MacFarland talking to Nashville/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Right, this is gonna be a battle, and I know
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna be a battle for the next two months,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: Because I know it's in my heart. To me, this
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  Speaker 3: is a very simple question that this is a two parter.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, after watching what the Spurs did, okay see
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  Speaker 2: and watching what Okac is when they're at full strength
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  Speaker 2: with JDub and everybody else in the lineup, do you
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  Speaker 2: believe the Nuggets as currently constituted right now would beat them?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not?
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  Speaker 3: But why? But hey man, that's the first part of
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  Speaker 3: the question.
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  Speaker 4: I'm probably not.
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  Speaker 5: Spurs thunder the competition in the West. The message is crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Who assumes that the Spurs are beatable? I I saw
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  Speaker 5: the Nuggets go to San Antonio with their beat team and.
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  Speaker 3: Beat the Spurs.
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  Speaker 4: See this is Vick is so right, Victor. I can't
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  Speaker 4: get over the fact that in my own head, I
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  Speaker 4: think to myself, I think the Nuggets could have beaten
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  Speaker 4: that team. Now I don't know too, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: they could have beaten OKC. Probably not. They certainly couldn't
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  Speaker 4: beat Minnesota, but damn it, the Spurs are there, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking of myself. I think the Nuggets could have
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  Speaker 4: beaten the Spring.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we talked so much about Chet just not
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  Speaker 3: being able to do anything, you know, a series in
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  Speaker 3: that game Joker against Wemby. Do I have to recount
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  Speaker 3: what he's what he's done to Wemby. See.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is, though, when I asked the question, there's
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  Speaker 2: an assumption, and maybe this is the right way to
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  Speaker 2: go about it. I don't know, there's an assumption that like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: fully healthy Nuggets team could definitely win, and yes, the
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  Speaker 2: B team beat them.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the Spurs had something to play for in
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  Speaker 3: that game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much they still cared at that point.
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  Speaker 2: But there's this assumption that if they're healthy, and this
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  Speaker 2: is where I'm at. I don't think this team that
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  Speaker 2: they put together is ever going to be healthy like
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  Speaker 2: that in the playoffs. Again, I have no other way
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  Speaker 2: of thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: It's been multiple.
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  Speaker 2: Years now of just you're trotting out guys at sixty
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  Speaker 2: percent and hoping that's enough. And I just I can't
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  Speaker 2: trust that, So I guess what I'm getting at is
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  Speaker 2: the second part is where I'm at is I don't
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  Speaker 2: think this roster will be healthy enough through four different
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  Speaker 2: rounds to win a title again, gotcha? And if that's
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  Speaker 2: the case, then you can't just go crazy spending wise.
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  Speaker 2: And I heard Bill Simmons say this over the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and it drove me nuts because it's dismissive of all
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  Speaker 2: of the punitive things that come with being in these aprons.
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  Speaker 3: He said this.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'll leave you with this.
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  Speaker 6: Why does Demver have to trade anybody to sign Peyton Watson?
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  Speaker 6: If you have yok on your team, heads pay everybody.
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  Speaker 6: Clip this out, Denver fans, clip this out. Kronkt's got
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  Speaker 6: a kajillion dollars, Just pay Peyton Watson and keep everyone
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  Speaker 6: else in your team because your owner is super rich.
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  Speaker 4: How much did Arsenal? Do we do it? Can I
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  Speaker 4: say something about the myopic view of people like Bill
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  Speaker 4: Simmons is flabbergasting to me? Can I write a letter?
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  Speaker 4: I would like to write a letter.
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  Speaker 2: It's Bill, but we had bad No. I'm saying your
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  Speaker 2: letters specifically have had a run of bad ones.
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  Speaker 3: Lately. Well, you know this, this notion that you just
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  Speaker 3: throw money at every problem, and throwing money always works
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  Speaker 3: for somebody who understands where that money goes. He should
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  Speaker 3: he's a Boston fan. What did Boston do the earlier?
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  Speaker 3: What did Boston do a yearly?
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  Speaker 4: They cleaned house?
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  Speaker 3: Why did they clean everybody else?
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  Speaker 4: Because?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 4: Because they want the championship? And the couldn't afford everybody
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  Speaker 4: to clean house?
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  Speaker 3: Why couldn't they afford everybody? Why did they have to
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  Speaker 3: force their team?
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't good enough with all of the punishments that come
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  Speaker 2: with being in these aprils?
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  Speaker 3: So rewind the tape. Did Bill Simmons have the exact
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  Speaker 3: same take about his ownership group?
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  Speaker 4: I'm just curious he did not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he'd probably tell you that they did do it
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  Speaker 2: until they realized it wasn't good enough.
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  Speaker 3: And who spent the most money this year? What team
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  Speaker 3: spent the most money into the tax? It was Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: I'll answer it for you. How'd that work out?
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  Speaker 4: That didn't?
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  Speaker 3: What's Cleveland looking to do now?
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  Speaker 4: Shed salary?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I understand it's the easy thing to
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  Speaker 3: do to cry money. It's the easy thing to do
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  Speaker 3: if it were accurate. This is a group that spent
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  Speaker 3: money to the very limit on every team they own. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: if they I'm being dead serious. If this was baseball,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think this is a Oh sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry Nelly. Please dear Bill, it's mos Vic and Brett.
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  Speaker 4: How are you? You've been really good for a long time,
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  Speaker 4: very popular, and you know the game, so I would
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  Speaker 4: assume that you understand this letter should hit hard. What
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  Speaker 4: is your friggin problem? Question Mark? Do you not understand
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  Speaker 4: the NBA? CBA? Question Mark? Are you that much of
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  Speaker 4: adult and a p nevermind to not understand the sanctions
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  Speaker 4: put on a team when they spin into the apron? Also, Bill,
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  Speaker 4: you do realize that the Denver Nuggets are not the
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  Speaker 4: La Friggin' Dodgers? Or do you not? Question mark? Are
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  Speaker 4: you that obtuse? Question mark? They can't just spend their
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  Speaker 4: way to freedom.
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  Speaker 3: This is a really worthy letter. Every wordy Now, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just go ahead and get to the end of this.
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  Speaker 4: Inconclusion, Bill, stuff it okay? What happened to your team?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hear jack squad out of you? Then? Did I? Oh? No,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't exclamation point, exclamation point, get bent.
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  Speaker 3: Love most Vic Brett all right, music downs. Here's my
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  Speaker 3: take on it. Here's my take on it. I don't
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  Speaker 3: care how much you spend, and the spending of the
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  Speaker 3: money thing is a viable argument if you spend.
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  Speaker 4: It the right way.
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  Speaker 3: The question is is it going to be spent the
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  Speaker 3: right way. Let's say you bring back Peyton Watson. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna ask every Nuggets fan out there, and I want
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  Speaker 3: you to think deeply about this. Even if you sign
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  Speaker 3: Peyton Watson and you're into the luxury tax, then what
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  Speaker 3: then what? Because you still you think you're gonna resign
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  Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway at a minimum You're dreaming. You really think
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  Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway, you're sixth man, the guy who shot you
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  Speaker 3: into games off the base. You think he's coming back
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  Speaker 3: at the minimum? No, you're dreaming. Is that team good enough?
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  Speaker 4: Because guess what you.
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  Speaker 3: Spend into that tax? Now? Every other contract on your
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  Speaker 3: roster is a minimum deal. Yeah, yep, listen to me,
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  Speaker 3: look at the contracts to every other one who you got.
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  Speaker 4: The league designed it to be this way to prevent
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  Speaker 4: super teams to what I want to promote parody in
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  Speaker 4: the league. That's why they designed it this way.
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  Speaker 3: What I would suggest you could spend money into the
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  Speaker 3: tax go. Hey, listen, I don't bock it. They have spend,
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  Speaker 3: but I want it done the right way, where you
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  Speaker 3: have enough of a leash. If somebody goes down, you
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  Speaker 3: have some I think they are too top heavy as
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  Speaker 3: it is. Somebody needs to go, not because oh they're cheap,
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  Speaker 3: because somebody needs to go. Do you guys understand the
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  Speaker 3: difference there? Bright? Do you understand the difference in my remarks,
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  Speaker 3: It's not somebody needs to go because oh they're spending
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  Speaker 3: too much money. Somebody needs to go so they can
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  Speaker 3: fit better pieces to the puzzle. Here's what in my opinion, Well,
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  Speaker 3: here's what's funny to me. They have no assets, guys, nothing,
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  Speaker 3: They have no trade assets. They're all gone, burned. Second
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  Speaker 3: round pick, gone, one, first round pick. Guess who owns
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets first round picks after the season.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, the next two season.
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  Speaker 3: Okase, here's what's gone. Here's what's funny. And this is
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  Speaker 3: on two fronts.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to know why the aprons and luxury
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  Speaker 2: taxes matter, especially when your team maybe is not the
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  Speaker 2: standard that you want to that's how you get trading
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  Speaker 2: three second picks to offload a five million dollar Reggie
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  Speaker 2: Jackson contract.
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  Speaker 3: That's what that does.
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  Speaker 2: And secondly, I'm not even saying I agree with these,
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  Speaker 2: but have we heard this from a at least handful,
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  Speaker 2: if not large portion of Nuggets fans over this past year.
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  Speaker 2: Cam Johnson stinks, got to get rid of them, Christian
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  Speaker 2: Brown stinks, got to get rid of them.
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  Speaker 3: Jamal even with some people, got to get rid of it.
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  Speaker 2: Like we've heard all of these, and yet in the
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  Speaker 2: same breath, it's let's keep the team together and spend
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  Speaker 2: into the luxury tax.
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  Speaker 3: None of that makes sense, none of it. What's what's
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  Speaker 3: the latest report about? Who's got this report about the
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets trading.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of their players?
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  Speaker 3: Who Bon Temps? Okay, what what? What is Tim bon
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  Speaker 3: Tamp's report? What does he say?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, he let me find it here in
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  Speaker 2: a second, whatever his name is, bon Time's last name, bonis.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 6: The best thing about that is, I don't even know
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  Speaker 6: who that is.
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  Speaker 3: So he said this reported.
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets have never been big spenders, which is why
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  Speaker 2: the belief around the league is that Cam Johnson on
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  Speaker 2: an expiring twenty three million dollar deal in Christian Brown
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  Speaker 2: on the five year one hundred and twenty five million
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  Speaker 2: dollar extension is likely to be moved to create enough
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  Speaker 2: room to give Watson something in the per year range
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  Speaker 2: of those plays.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I want you to do a little research. The
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  Speaker 3: first part of that sentence that the Nuggets have never
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  Speaker 3: been big spenders. I want you to do the research
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  Speaker 3: and see who's spent the most money on NBA rosters
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  Speaker 3: over the last I don't know, five years. You can
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  Speaker 3: go deeper ten years, which teams have spent the most
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  Speaker 3: money on their NBA rosters. I want you to That's
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  Speaker 3: the first project. Secondly is this, Do you think there's
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  Speaker 3: a trade market right now for Cam Johnson and Christian Brown?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think there's a healthy trade market out there?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: No, not really.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, are teams knocking on the door saying no?
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  Speaker 4: So what would it make you have to incentivize them
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  Speaker 4: to take it? How do you incentivize trading by trading
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  Speaker 4: by trading picks along with it?
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  Speaker 3: Do they have picks to trade?
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  Speaker 4: They do not, So what do you go to trade?
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  Speaker 3: Steve Nelson?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, man if if he did one of
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  Speaker 4: these locker room flute solos like so, you tell me when.
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  Speaker 3: You heard that report. Because here's my reaction. When I
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  Speaker 3: heard the report, I.
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  Speaker 4: Rolled my eyes.
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  Speaker 3: How do you roll them? How do you roll them?
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  Speaker 4: All?
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  Speaker 3: I rolled them. I rolled them as much as sure.
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  Speaker 3: They could put out that they want to trade them.
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  Speaker 3: They want to trade, they want to do a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things. Can they trade them?
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  Speaker 2: By the way, to answer your question, Vic, the biggest
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  Speaker 2: spinners over the last ten years or Warriors, Clippers, nets?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Where the Nuggets? I don't know. I only have these
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  Speaker 3: listen names. The point is they've spent into the tax
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  Speaker 3: multiple years, correct, into the tax multiple years.
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  Speaker 4: It's correct.
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  Speaker 3: It's not about how much you spend, it's how you spend.
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  Speaker 3: And my I only have one answer. They have to
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  Speaker 3: reconstruct the top of the roster. The top, the very
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  Speaker 3: tippy tippy top of the roster, in my humble opinion,
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  Speaker 3: has to be reconstructed somehow to allow some breathing room.
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  Speaker 4: And see, you get into not only do you get
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  Speaker 4: into aprons, but you get into repeater taxes, you get
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  Speaker 4: into I mean, there's it gets so suffocating with the
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  Speaker 4: CBA that it doesn't allow you to do anything. You're restricted.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they were in a position where they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: even resign their own guy if they wanted to. If
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  Speaker 4: they say, you know what, we'll pay the tax till
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  Speaker 4: the high heavens, we be happy to do it. The
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  Speaker 4: rules say no, you can't even spec you can't even
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  Speaker 4: buy this guy.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're on guy. Who do you think right
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  Speaker 3: now on this roster in order? Who do you guys believe?
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  Speaker 3: And again this is all opinion based. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: any inside knowledge, nor do I want inside knowledge on
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  Speaker 3: this is just my opinion from the inside out the organization.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you think they're most likely to try raid
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  Speaker 3: if they could, if they could, Christian probably Christian Brown
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  Speaker 3: number one, that's number one, or AG. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I mean, but the thing is with Ag,
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to trade. They want him as a player,
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  Speaker 3: but the injury factor has been weighing heavily on this club.
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  Speaker 4: VIC. So let's go through the list of guys.
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  Speaker 3: So Christian Brown's trade value right now is not nearer
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  Speaker 3: where they need it to be because they know he's
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  Speaker 3: a better player than what he put on the court.
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  Speaker 4: He is if he was making if he was making
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  Speaker 4: half of what he made, he'd be instantly traded.
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  Speaker 2: By the look effect, just real quick, because I can
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  Speaker 2: answer your question for you. The up until last year,
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  Speaker 2: the Nuggets were in the attacks three consecutive years. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there were seventeen million and twenty twenty two, twenty million
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  Speaker 2: and twenty three and twenty million and twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: And how many teams can say that? Not many in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA. Looks like about ten, eight to ten. So
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  Speaker 3: they does that make them cheap or make them among
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  Speaker 3: the bigger spenders in the league.
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  Speaker 4: Bigger spenders in the league. Cheap contempt is full of crap.
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  Speaker 4: All right, enough with this cheap crap.
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  Speaker 3: Because the numbers and the data pretty much shows you
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  Speaker 3: nothing cheap about that spending into the tax. But the
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  Speaker 3: point is I'm getting at ag health issues. Can't trade him, right, Christian.
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  Speaker 3: He's got to rebuild, his rebuild his rep not tradable.
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  Speaker 3: Who's tradable on this team that makes a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about this already. Trade consider a lot. I
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  Speaker 3: think Cam Johnson is gonna be the easiest to move.
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  Speaker 3: He's got one more missing, the obvious one here. Jamal
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  Speaker 3: the most tradable asset they have. Yeah, he's got value.
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  Speaker 3: He's the most tradable asset they have.
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to do? You want to do?
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  Speaker 3: That is the biggest But I'm just saying, if the
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  Speaker 3: if the goal is to shake up and make room
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  Speaker 3: for you to be more active, that's the only asset
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  Speaker 3: that you could trade. I think CAM could go. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but that's not all you're doing with Cam though, is
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  Speaker 3: removing that salary replacing with Peyton Wattreue in there. There's
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  Speaker 3: true if and I'm not saying that trading Jamal is
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  Speaker 3: the right thing to do. I'm not saying that. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just saying, if you remove that one, it gives you
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  Speaker 3: double the amount of room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, three h three five four oh nine two
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  Speaker 2: five Schamp mos de text line one price, one person,
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  Speaker 2: one hour back after this, all right, breaking news for
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  Speaker 2: the Avalanche and take this for what you will. Very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: We've heard sort of rumors about this, but according to
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  Speaker 2: Pierre Lebron, the Nashville Predators have been given permission to
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  Speaker 2: speak with Colorado Avalanche GM Chris McFarland. According to sources,
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  Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes from there.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Moses, what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Chris McFarland is the guy who the
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  Speaker 4: abs wanted to keep around. He was the assistant GM
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  Speaker 4: to Joe Sakik for quite some time. In fact, Jared
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  Speaker 4: Bednar is here, I think because obviously he worked with
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  Speaker 4: Chris McFarlane with the Columbus Blue Jackets organization, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that Chris probably had a pretty good saying, hey, Joe,
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  Speaker 4: you might really want to hire this guy. And clearly
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  Speaker 4: for the last decade it's been pretty damn good. He's
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  Speaker 4: a guy that is a smart guy, hard working son
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  Speaker 4: of a gun. So I'm curious as to what the
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  Speaker 4: role would be with the Nashville Predators. What would they
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  Speaker 4: offer him? Because we have a president of hockey Operations
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  Speaker 4: and that's Joe Sakik. We have a general manager and
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  Speaker 4: that's Chris McFarlane. I'll tell you what they' and by
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  Speaker 4: the way, and by the way, Vic, when they so
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  Speaker 4: much they wanted to keep Chris so much and he
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  Speaker 4: was so valuable to the franchise that Joe got kicked
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  Speaker 4: upstairs right after they won the Cup and Chris became
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  Speaker 4: the GM.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to offer him more money. You know, this
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  Speaker 3: could be this could be the same thing Tim Connelly
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  Speaker 3: got when he went to Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: Can you explain to me what the difference is between
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  Speaker 2: like a president of whatever operations in GM?
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  Speaker 3: Is it ornamental or what some of its titles, some
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  Speaker 3: of its money, some of it is it's over saying
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  Speaker 3: most yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But it's overseeing with the general manager. You're in charge
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: of your team. Team hockey operations includes all the scouting departments,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: all of this department, although that department, all that I mean,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: it's in charge of everything in that regard with regards
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: to the team. General manager hitdles, the team itself, personnel, trades, signings,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: that sort of thing, drafting.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Hmmm.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I I just thought that GM did that anyway, I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: guess I was wrong.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Well, it depends.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Like president of football operations for the Broncos. Is is
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: that a bigger thing than just being George Peayton.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: George Peyton feels like he's involved in everything.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: So I don't know, it's a It is a broader scope,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: is what it is. Broader scope. It's very interesting. I
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: don't know what. I don't know what they would offer him,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: but if it's if it's any well, here's the thing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Berry Trotz is obviously out in Nashville. That's been known
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: for quite some time. It could be money. Vic is
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: if it's a lateral move in terms of responsibility, I'm
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: not sure he'd go. I mean, he's got a family here.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: You know, he's in some places right, well, exactly right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I mean Conley didn't want to go, but the money
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: was too much, and money is too you know, we
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: talk about money spent. This ownership group spends money on players,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: always has now on coaches, and GM's not so much. Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: The well, I don't think our guy's underpaid. Well do
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: you have?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that. You know, Tim Connley got a
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: rich treasure chest to move.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's but that was also a rarity. I mean,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: that's a that's a really rare thing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Saluzery got a rich treasure chests to move.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Is there? You know?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: The basketball side of things is different, I suppose, and
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: we've discussed this part of it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I think Josh Pranky has said this out loud.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Part of that is because I think that Josh feels
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like he's got to handle on basketball stuff right that
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: he's Look, it's not like they aren't appreciative of the
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: people in charge and the job that they do, but
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: they have more of a handle on that than they
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: do the hockey stuff. And in the case of McFarland,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: if he were to leave, is the response kind of like, well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Joe still here a little bit, you know what I mean.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: It's not like we're redoing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Our entire front office now. Sachik, who was the guy
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: before McFarland, before he took his promotion, is still the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: guy in charge. Like I doubt that any move has
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: been made within this organization from trades, the signings to
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: whatever without Joe's stamp of approval.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure how much does?
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just curious. I have no idea what what does
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: a McFarland make. What is the I mean is that
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: that's not public knowledge?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Right, It's really it's really not It's really not public knowledge,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: because I would say.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Is Brett Kaine's not What about Brett kaine salary? Is
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: that public knowledge?
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I would say, I would say they probably make somewhere
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: in the one point five to two point two range,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: somewhere in there probably is my guess, maybe some less,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: maybe some more, may maybe some make of a cool mill.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I know the highest paid gms are in comparison to
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: like coaches and players, it's it's below that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I know that an average NHL general manager makes anywhere
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: from one to three point five million. The high end
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: guys are like three point fives. Yeah, there you go.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: What is the average?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: What would George I mean, it's none of my business,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: No do I really care? But what would George Bayton makes?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Ease making?
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: And if the prends go, hey, by the way, you'll
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: be you'll be whatever of our operations and you'll make
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: three point one? Why would you not do that? You
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? But here's what I do know
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: about Chris McFarlane. He is a hard working, dedicated, passionate,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: smart son of a gun. Uh.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: The NFL's highest paid GM is nick I always forget.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I always say it like casserole hssario, Right, is that
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: how you say his last time?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Sure? Philly?
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Houston's Houston, Houston. He makes at least six
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: million per year. All right, So that's in the NFL.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: So far far below coaches, far below a lot of Yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: because what was is Peyton?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Wasn't he like seventeen or eighteen a year? Is that
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: what the they were guessing when he first came out. Sean, Yeah, Sean.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I think he's getting eighteen per Yeah, I think.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: But that's I mean, NFL has got a different sort
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: of bank that they're working with in the NHL does.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: But still it's interesting because the we've seen this mos
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Vegas was denying interview requests for an assistant coach.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: No, that was for well, for their head coach, their
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: former head coach, Bruce Cassidy.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Correct, that's what I meant, Yes, and well.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: There's there's a little bit more to it than that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Far be it for me to defend Vegas. You're gonna
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: defend them on this front?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Wow, looking, Mos, you're being all defense of a Vegas criminal.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: What's the defense, dirt? You let a guy go, let
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: me find another job.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Correct, But from what I understand, Vegas goes to Edmonton
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: inside the division, right inside the division, said look, we're
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: we're we're in a playoff run here. It sounds pretty good,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: but let let let's when we're done, well, let's you know,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: let's get on that. And it was like okay, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: then Oils come out and say, hey man, they won't
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: let us talk to him, But why wouldn't.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You The guy's that part of your organization anymore. You
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: fired him, let him go.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: I maybe they think it's just one more distraction they
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: don't need at this point as they're trying to make
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: a run.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: What distraction? So I'm wondering, I don't know if anything.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: If if he gets hired, then you're he's off your books.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Right yeah, and then you're part of what you own
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: is taking care of it.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Alls I know is if I asked somebody to keep
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: something on the downloaw, we can probably work them out,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: but keep it on the download for OWT and they
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: went and went back, I'd be like, who are you?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Huh No, I disagree with you?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And somebody wants a job and he's literally you're paying
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: him not to work.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Somebody else can pay him to work. Most you've been
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: in this business for a long time.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: I means Vegas has means Vegas has the power. I
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying I would
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: not want somebody to squawk if I asked them out
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: to wait. This happened to me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: My first my first hosting gig or show. Got bleepcan like.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Six months in and you get the.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Station across the Street said yeah, well can you come
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: work for us?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And I looked at my contract and the answer was no.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And I was like, so you get to fire me
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and tell me I can't work somewhere else.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: That's how this works, you know, immedia.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work anymore, by the way.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Well sometimes it does. Do you know why the non
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: compete clause worked for so many years in media per se,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: in local television, I'll tell you why. Because the television
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: stations and the radio stations were colluding.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: If they took.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: One of yours, Oh you want to do that, I'll
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: take one of yours. So they basically did the all
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: hands off mode. We'll wait six months, nine months. They
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: didn't do it because they wanted to. They did it
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: because then you the other team, the other place, would
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: do the same thing to them. But it never made
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: sense to me.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, you fired me because obviously you think I
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: socker something. What do you care if I go work
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: for somebody else? If I stink, then you should be like, oh, well,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: go stink over there.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I thought, might not compete beat it. I didn't have
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: lawyers at the ready. I didn't have it. I didn't either,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't have any I just said, go ahead, sue me,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: see what happens.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Hmm, well, let me let me get back to our
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: situation real quick. Chris has been really good for this franchise.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: If this is an opportunity for him to get higher up,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: more money and so on and so forth, than more
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: power to him. That's I'm sure that's The ABS feel
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: the same way, which is why they've apparently, according to
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Elliott and according to Pierre, have given him permission to
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: speak to Nashville.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Well, and I've wondered this forever and I don't have
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the clear answer to this, And I know what you're
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: gonna says is, well, it's a tandem and they.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Kind of work together and they do this, and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: who's in charge here? Is it is like with how
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: it's currently put together.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Is Joe the one that's in charge of making these
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: moves or is it McFarland.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I think that George probably has George Joe, Yeah,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: we got Peyton on the mind. I think that Joe
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: probably has well, not probably, he's the president of Hockey Operations.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: So if it's hey, are we going to trade Miko
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Ranton in, that's a discussion. If it's a, Hey, are
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: we going to sign this college free agent to a
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: tryout contract? You don't need to talk to him, right?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Yes?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's it's how about this. If McFarland was.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Like, we're trading Miko, I want to do it, and
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Joe said no, they aren't trading Miko, probably so okay.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I mean, Joe Chris, Chris
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: works it all out and then says, here's what I got.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Sure, what do you think?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I think it sounds pretty good. Let's do that kind
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: of thing. Yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I just I've never understood the difference between and the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: president of hockey ops and the general manager, because it
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: still feels like you're doing all that day to day work,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: maybe some of the front work if you want to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: call it that, you know, college entry level contracts, whatever.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe they aren't involved in that stuff, but still I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: don't know. It was always something that confused me because
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if you get confused, take a look at
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: an NFL front office and all the different titles.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Well I get that, but in that case, like I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: just think that George Peyton would be in charge, like
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he's the one that's making all these decisions. He's the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: one making the draft picks, he's signing the free agents,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: he's making the trades. Like there isn't Well, what is
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: the guy above George? Think, I don't know if there
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: is a guy above George other than ownership.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: You think Sean Payton has a saying some of those pigs,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: well that too.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying as far as that job and that title,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you know, if Chris mcfoland didn't exist and it was
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: just Joe Sakic and they're making a trade, you're gonna
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: talk to bet Nartoo about moves like that and see
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: what he thinks.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Well, I think any good franchise, you'll get a lot
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: of different opinions and then the buck stops with somebody.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Look if the Nuggets signed Nicola Yolkis to a brand
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: new contract that goes all the way to the top.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: If the Avalanche signed Nathan McKinnon to a brand new
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: contract that goes all the way to the very top. Yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: if the Denver Broncos signed Bonnicks to a new forty
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: eight million dollars a year contract, that's Greg Penner's signing
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: off on that. That's not the GM. That's not the
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: president of football Operations. And that's not any of that
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: that goes all the way to the very top.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Why do you allow this allow what allow him to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: talk to Nashville?
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Well, it depends I guess it depends on I mean.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Because here's why you can't keep your guys hostage, because
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: that'll get around in the league and people won't want
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to work for you in the FU. You can't do that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: And number hold guy's hostage. Number two. There's no animosity either.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Chris McFarland has been an awesome employee for their franchise
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: and a terrific brain. If he's got an opportunity to
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: advance himself someplace else in a big way, they're not
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: going to hold him back. If that's a coded.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Way for you to ask, why, you know, can you
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: go talk to others? Go home? No?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I think I'm still just hung up on the I
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: don't understand the difference between the the job titles.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Because I think of it this one. Let me try
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to help you. Let me try to help you one
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: more time.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: If the Ravens who just fired John Harbaugh called the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Broncos and said can we talk to Sean Payton, they'd
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: be like get the hell out of here. No, that's
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And maybe Sean really wants the job
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: in Baltimore. You're like tough, but if they contract, you're
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: our coach.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: How about this, Joe Sakic, is your Sean Payton that
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: they said, hey, we want to talk to Well, what
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: happened when people wanted to talk to uh Davis web? Yeah?
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: What happened?
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Well, that he is getting a promotion, I'm asking him.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: That's where I'm confused. Is how much of a promotion
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: is it? Or is it just a title? They gets
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: you more money. That's what I think.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: It depends on the team in the situation. I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: you're trying to you're trying to pigeonhole every team operates
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: the same way.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not pigeonholing it. I just don't understand. That's why
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I've said it like twenty times.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I don't get it. Okay, a team comes and says, hey,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: we want to talk to Vance Joseph about our head
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: coaching position. Would Sean Payton say no.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: No, because that's an assistant Joe Sachik.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton and Chris McFarland as the GM, is your
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Vance Joseph that's I guess that's how I can put
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: it to you in terms of structure of the organization.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: And if he has got an opportunity to go and
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: be a you know, vice president of operations and GM
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and whatever, I mean, you know, however they categorize it
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and he gets a lot more bread, why would you
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: hold him back? Okay, that's all I'm saying. And he
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: may look at it and go, you know what, I've
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: got a pretty damn good gig in Colorado and we're
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: still incredibly close and on my work there is in finished. Yes, sure,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I mean he may say that too. But I think
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: for any guy who is desired around the league to
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: be afforded the opportunity to interview and expand your horizons,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I think you should do that. And that's what they've done.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: That's fair. The GM is.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Why I look at it, GM assistant GM is like this, Yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: two wrongs, right, President of Hockey Operations.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: It feels like you're doing the same thing, just with
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: different titles. About what about zar?
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'd love.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: To be wait important question. Let's see how you answer this.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Would you be a zar t s or zar cz
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: CZ's always for me?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Absolutely the right answer. There is a correct answer in
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: that and is cz.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so much more though that goes into hockey operations.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: What about emperor. I've always wanted to be an emperor.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: To me, you're Italian. That's to me, there's.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: No greater title then. I mean, you can say president,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you can. Emperor is top of the freaking food chain.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Just told you, Vic I am right on board with
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: you a second ago. Now you couldn't be more wrong. Now,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you couldn't be more wrong.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: You tell me what's better than emperor? You tell me, well,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: very simply.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Aren't Caesar and emperor the same thing? Caesar is the
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: same thing as emperor? Right?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Give me sea. I was in the Roman Empire right right,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: right right right? Ambassador to Tonga, No, dude, Ambassador is
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: like ambassador is a frivolous title. That is, you'll be
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: an ambassador here, You'll be an ambassador. Get out, get out.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: We don't need you.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I'm the emperor, dude, Yeah, I would run the world.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I learned this about you. You like to think that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: people are beneath you. I just want to go chill
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: out and do nothing for you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Want to be Thomas Jefferson in France. Just go hang out.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I just want to go talk to some peeps. How
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: going today?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: If I'm ever president, I will appoint you ambassador to
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: the mild Beeves. Yes, how's that saying?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: What's the what's the place with the huts on the water?
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Is that what it is at that place? Oh?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Give me that place.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, I'm going to pay you a couple
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: hundred per year to go be the ambassador to Bora Bora.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I'll give you one phone call. Here'll be like most
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: things are great. Relationship is awesome.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: How's the fishing?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: It's all one of the teams. I will have more
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: respect for any front office who comes up with the
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: title emperor. It will be the best. Forget President of
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Player Relations or VP of player Personnel. What title do
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: you hold on the emperor? Give me that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Titles in world history, Let's see if we can come
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: up with some better ones than this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, while you're looking that up, Vic, you've already requested
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: to have a certain title on this show. This is Mosher,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Lombardi and Kane. What's Mark?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Mosher bren Kine and the Governor Vic Lombardi.
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  Speaker 4: A governor.
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  Speaker 3: Want emperor.
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  Speaker 2: All right, how about so emperor? I think emperor is
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: the highest you can go. Then it's king, prince, duke.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Earl or count, earls, baron little earls. How about arch duke?
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Would you like to be an arch duke? Dude, got smoke?
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: That's what started World War One? A grand prince? Oh,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: you're not just a regular prince or a grand prince.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Grand prince?
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: You know what that sounds like? That sounds like a
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: title you give to a prince that you're like. He's like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: hey man, I'm thinking about going to the Southern Kingdom.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: You're like, I'll tell you what. You stick around here,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: you won't just be a prince, you'll be a grand prince.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what. I'll give you three more
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: horses per year.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we finally got here. It's so funny we're
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: full circle. President of Hockey ops is the grand Prince
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: of GMS?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Is it not?
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  Speaker 3: That's the point I've been trying to make the whole time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Well, what's right below Emperor the owner is Emperor of
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: the organization. No, but you just said it.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like a title you give somebody when somebody
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: thinks they want to go somewhere else. That's what I'm saying.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: President of Hockey ops is the Grand Prince of gms.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I've been trying to get that. It's the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: same thing. It's just a bigger title.
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  Speaker 4: No, because they see, they oversee so much more than
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: a GM does. The GM worries about the team. This
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: guy talks about strategies in future of the franchise, and
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: he hires and fires the coaches and the GMS and
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, is somebody on the text scient says makes the
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: claim that a pharaoh is better than emperor. I don't know.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I don't well, dude, Pharaoh's like living, that's living god
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: that might eclipse emperor. Then Egyptians them Egyptians, man, they're like, yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: That dude thought he was something. That's all that stick
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: turned into a snake. Yeah, the robots, they said. An
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: emperor generally holds more power.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Both rule as absolute monarchs, and emperor presides over a
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  Speaker 2: asked multi ethnic empire that frequently rules over multiple kingdoms.
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  Speaker 2: By contrast, a pharaoh is the hereditary god king of
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a single specific geographic civilization, like ancient Egypt.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, so if you're talking about Napoleon his emperor, like
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: he conquered a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: He's got He's got half the world, right, Okay, all right,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: well Pharaoh.
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  Speaker 2: Is just like you got Egypt. Now you do whatever
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you want in Egypt, but that's all you got.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they come from God, according to the Egyptians.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's I mean, that's the kind of a
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: step above, bro, not just some dude who was born
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: like in nice and rose up and like.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I said, I just got to be an ambassador. Okay,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: that's all I want. You remember the show The Tank
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Commandments is like four hours. Yes, the guy who played
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: the emperor. Do you remember that actor?
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Oh? What was his name?
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Do you remember his calves? He had such built calves.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I don't. I'm out, I don't recall that Victor.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I want you guys to pull up his calves from
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: that show. Is unreal That dude had no that was
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: the Yeah it was. I thought he was in the
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: King and I yeah, I think it was Jil Brenner.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Take a look at he had a bald head.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: That guy. Dude unreal, like just polished calves. I'm doing
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: a Google search.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Big calves.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Vic, You're right, told you stole the show, so our
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: I t guy is.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Gonna look who is googling Brenner's calves? It stole the show?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Look at good cast. Tell me what you think I
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: meaned calves vic.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: LONGI yeah, I'm not look at his calves though.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Brother.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back with Mosee Lombardi and the
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Ambassador next.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: By the way, stories are on sports in the world
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: we feel like you should be aware of. So I
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: was looking at the calves of one Jule Brenners asked
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: me to do, and Moje came across her selling this photo.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: On eBay of ju'l Brenner.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: It's an eight x ten photo that you can have
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: for the low price of fifty dollars. Moj I want
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you to read, come over here talking to Mike. Read
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the title of this photo that you can purchase.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: 'le Brenner Speedo's bare chested Beefcake. Oh yeah, it's him.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's him.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: It's on a boat wearing tidy white.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: He is with his jump doing what it's still I mean,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: it's ridiculous. It is le Brenner's Speedo's bar chested beefcake.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Is what?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: What I should you know what I should do. I
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: don't have a boat, but I should copy that exacly.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, I'll start. Oh, by the way, please,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: by the way, do you guys notice Russell Wilson is
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: officially one of us? Yeah, I needed a job with
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: CBS as a studio analyst, taking the job of Matt
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Ryan now GM. So, Russell Wilson, do you think Russ?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, we know Russ, right, we hurt enough for
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Rush while he was here. Do you do you think
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: he'll tell the truth though?
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: About Denver?
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about player about you know. You know
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: some guys they get into it and they still don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: want to They don't want to offend anyone. He's never
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: done that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Do I think that he's what he's going to turn
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: into shack and start making fun?
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: No?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Like, no way, Like like Barkley, He's not afraid to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: offend or insult anyone or anything.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I'll be good, He'll be good on TV. He's not
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: gonna do that though, No way. I mean, how many
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: guys in the NFL do that?
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Not a ton that again? Inside the NBA, well,
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: I mean it was, it's unique. It's not even unique anymore.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Things have changed, man, things have changed.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I just think it's amazing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And let me ask you this, considering how it ended,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: how was Russell Wilson remembered.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: That was a rough.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: Answer, sort of fizzling out.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: It depends on your era. The Seattle era of Russe
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Wilson is nothing but success. How can you think anything less?
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: What's his comp to you? Is he closer to Flacco
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: or is he closer to like one of the better quarterback? Oh,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: he's better than Flacco because he went to two Super
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Bowls and should have won two Super Bowls.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I right, don't know, man, I don't know. I don't know.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: You know, you've got to give me a little opportunity
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: to think about this, to think about the history of
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Russ and his career as a whole. Oh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: By the way, I told you my wife, former college
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: softball player. She is so into anything that has to
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: do with softball. This time of the year, so the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: women's College World Series is on and I have watched
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: plenty of these games, and I as I do every year,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I would tell you guys, watch them.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: They are very very fun. These these girls.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Are super competitive and really really good and the games
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: are like an hour and fifteen minutes, like it's quick.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: But Texas has a girl on the name of Hannah
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Wells is her name. She has an odd superstition and
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: baseball softball players very famous for superstitions.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Well, Holly Rowe has this report.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: Listen, I have some sources in the Texas Dugout who
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: have given me an incredible.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Story on Hannah Wells.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: She has a superstition dating back to childhood that if
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: she sees a ladybug, she eats it for good luck,
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: follows at home. And so I was told that at
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: the SEC tournament in Kentucky she had a nice home
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: run and she had ingested a ladybug before that.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: So this is a superstition.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: With this on two different sources in that Texas dugout, what.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Did you think about just horking down a ladybug every
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: time he saw him to get that sham.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: See, I'm weird the other way. I am weird the.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Other way, which is I was always taught lady bugs
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: a good luck. Oh no, that's what she's saying. And
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: then she hits Homer's if a ladybug like lands of me, whatever,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I gently get it on my hands and I.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Put it on a leaf. I try to save every
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: lady bug I can possibly find. I would never stop one.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: I would never kick one, I'd never flick one, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: would never anything. I would always take care of a ladybug.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Still do I'm gonna tell you something right now?
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Am I wrong? Or should I be eating? Or should
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I just be eating them for breakfast?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And before anybody comes in telling me how great they
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: are for the environment.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I know all this stuff.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I am the most anti insect person you're gonna find.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I hate them, Hang on, I hate them all. I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: will smack any insect that I see that's near me.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: They're awful ladybugs. I treat as if it's it's a
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: newborn baby.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I racked them up my hand.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I'm like, here, go find this nice little flour. Come
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: over here. I'm so gentle with them. That's the only
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: one though, have you ever, how do you ask feel
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: though about bugs landing in your mouth?
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: I was riding my bike.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: One day and I had love it enter my mouth,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: A b entry my mouth.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: My dad got stung by a bee because he was
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: playing golf and he had a beer can in the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: cup hole.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Wind.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, b went inside the can he took a drink, bam,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: popped them right on the.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Legb Yep, that's happened. Hey, I know we got to
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: get to the top. Here. The rankings of the forty
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: eight teams in the World Cup have come out. What
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: are the US ranks?
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I'll say, all right, forty eight teams. I'll see the
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: US is eighteenth, fourteen, twenty two. Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Wow, who's the worst team in the world that's in
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: the World Cup? Sorry, Italy didn't make it, so they've
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: got to be the worst.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: No, No, it's not Bozsa. There's a lot of teams
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: that Now, there's a lot of teams that got in
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: based on regionalization and geography because they and they have
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: much competition North Macedonia.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: No, it's cutter.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, correct.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Curracow crossout, Currossow. Jesus going full bric in. Currousow is
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: forty seven. Coroco Coroco Crossow.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I just love this text. Maybe don't ride your bike
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: with your mouth wide open.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: How are you supposed to breathe? Oh, good god, how do.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: You breathe if your mouth isn't open. There's Vic going up, lookout.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: The giant hoover up the mountain. Oh my gosh, sucking
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: it all them insects, baby, suck them all. I just
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: fixed question. How do you guys feel about bugs flying
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: in your mouth?
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Like they're like there was another option other than gross,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: But your immediate reaction when you have any insect enter
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: the mouth area is just pure shock. It's got it's
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I want to it's you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I feel diseased for like hours, Don't they say, like
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: the average human being eats like a hundred spiders in
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: their lifetime in their sleep. No way, that's true.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: No way, yeah, unless it can be, unless you're like
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Vic and you just sleep with a bike. All right,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: got back after this