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S01E21*: The "Sharing Episode." Why We’re Like This: A Bonus Ep. for People Who Love Watch People · What's on Your Riste? A Watch Podcast

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  It's a weekend dinner. There's a handful of folks and
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  family around the table again, mostly family, friends, kids,
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  couple of, you know, outsiders have shown up and drinks are
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  open, food is good. Conversation is a typical
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  weekend conversation, kids, jobs, the weather, folks stay
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  away from politics and so on. And then somebody, it doesn't
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  matter who, because you know what, every dinner there's
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  usually eventually somebody asks something along the lines of,
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  you know, looking at your wrist and they tilt their head and
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  they say something along the lines of how many of those do
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  you actually have? And then you freeze because the
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  honest answer is going to make the room probably laugh because
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  the number is ridiculous. And the dishonest answer is
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  going to make you or whomever is responding to this feel strange
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  as well because you're being disingenuous, right?
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  And so the, the real answer, the actual true, like 10:15 30-40
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  years of doing this real life answer, it would take like a 45
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  minute explanation and the food's getting cold.
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  So I say this as a joke, you know, maybe I'll deflect if it
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  was me, and maybe you'll deflect as well.
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  And you move the conversation along and then you think, for
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  the 100th time, man, I just wish I could just hand them an
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  episode of something and answer it for him.
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  So this is that episode. If somebody sent this to you,
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  it's because they love you and they would like for you to
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  understand the thing about them that they have not been able to
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  explain. And they're not asking you to
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  take up this strange hobby. They're not even asking you to
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  like it. They're just asking you to
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  understand for a handful of minutes why this is important to
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  them. So pour something if you drink
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  stuff, grab something. If you need snacks, get
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  comfortable and let me do my best to explain why US watch.
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  People are like. This my name is Wachovsky, and
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  this is what's on your Reese day.
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  What's on your wrist today? All right, a few things before
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  we start. This is a bonus episode of a
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  podcast that's normally aimed at people who already love
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  wristwatches, watches, things that go on your wrist that tell
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  time, typically mechanical and or automatic, they're hand
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  wound. Occasionally we talk about
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  quartz watches as well. OK.
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  And we we talk about watchmakers in like small Swiss villages.
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  We talk about people who hand finish movements in the 19th
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  century and these chronometers and the history of wristwatches.
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  And we get it. We are weird.
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  And by any normal reasonable measure, this is a very niche
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  show. I totally get that I am the
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  niche of all niches, but this episode is different.
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  This one is for people who are adjacent to the hobby.
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  The partners, the siblings, the parents, the friends, the in
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  laws, whomever, right coworkers and the friends who've sat
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  through one too many monologues about I don't know the
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  difference between the two shades of blue on a dial that
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  nobody else can see. This one's for you.
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  I'm going to try to do three things in the next handful of
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  minutes. One, I'm going to make the
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  actual case for the hobby. Not like a joke case like the
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  real one, because there is a real case for this and it
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  deserves to be heard now Two, I'm going to make fun of us.
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  Specifically, I'm going to make fun of myself.
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  And in turn, I'm also going to be making fun of the person who
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  sent this to you. Or if you're just the listener
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  of my regular podcast, I'm going to make fun of you as well.
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  Because you and I are in the same boat, brothers and sisters.
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  And again, we deserve. That because if we're going to
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  take this seriously and you want to take us seriously, we have
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  the right to laugh at ourselves. 1st and 3rd, I'm going to tell
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  you about the part of this hobby that almost nobody on the
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  outside knows the thing that is the actual reason we keep doing
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  this, even though almost none of us could actually tell you the
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  reason. And so we're going to get there.
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  So settle in segment one. Let's get into the first part,
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  which is the easy answer and why this easy answer isn't enough.
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  And so the first thing every non watch person says eventually is
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  but like, dude, isn't your phone like a clock?
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  And I would say, yes, my phone is a clock.
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  My microwave is also a clock. My car is also a clock.
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  A little display on my coffee maker, also a clock.
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  The world is full of clocks. I do not in any practical sense
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  need a watch to tell me what time it is.
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  So why do I wear one? Here's the question I want to
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  ask back. Again, I love asking questions
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  and people who listen to my podcast know that the question I
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  asked back back is something along lines of, and again, I
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  want you to sit with this for a second.
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  Why do you have a wedding ring? Why do people wear wedding
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  rings? Well, the wedding ring in pure
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  function is just a small loop of metal that you wear on your
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  finger. It does nothing.
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  It does not perform any single task.
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  It's not necessary for being married.
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  You can. Be married without one.
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  Plenty of people are. And yet.
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  Almost universally, across cultures, across centuries, when
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  two people get married, they put rings on each other's fingers.
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  And they wear those rings every day.
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  They wear them in the shower. They wear them while they sleep
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  and wear them while they change diapers of their children.
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  When they show up, they wear them for decades.
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  And if they ever lose 1, it's it's a bit of a small disaster.
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  Trust me, I lost my first one five days into my marriage,
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  which was, you know, going on almost 20 years ago.
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  And since then, I've lost four additional rings.
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  And every single time I lose a ring, they progressively get
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  less expensive and tighter. So, so far, so good thus far.
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  Now, a wedding ring is not a piece of jewelry.
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  It's it's a wedding ring. It carries meaning that has
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  nothing to do with its function. Now, the watch, the kind of
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  watch we're talking about on this show is the same kind of
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  object. It does technically tell time,
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  but that's not what it's for. It's for what it carries.
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  I'll give you a more concrete version of this kind of same
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  idea. Let's say you you own a chair.
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  You probably own a chair at home, right?
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  Lots of chairs, probably several.
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  Most of them are functional chairs.
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  They do a. Chairs job, but maybe somewhere
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  in your house there's one chair that belonged to your
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  grandmother, or one that you or your partner saved up for in
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  your first apartment, or one that you bought on a trip and
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  that you shipped home. That chair is also.
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  It's just a chair. It also does the chair job for
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  example, but you would never. Never just throw it out.
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  I know this because my wife, for example, has a crib.
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  May you just say it's just a baby crib, no big deal.
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  Our kids, you know, they've used them when they were, they were
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  their babies. Well, it's the same crib that my
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  wife used when she was a child, so that's just a crib, but it's
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  also a very important piece of. Furniture in our home.
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  Now, a watch in this scenario is just a chair or it's just a
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  crib. But some watches are beyond
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  that. They are functional and some
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  watches are the ones that belonged to your grandmother or
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  your grandfather. And so that's the easy answer.
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  It's also true, but it's not the whole answer.
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  And I think the rest of this episode, I'm going to try to
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  give you the rest of it. The part that I think a lot of
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  folks have difficulty articulating, the segment 2
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  we're going to call is the art part.
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  So here's something that most people don't know about how
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  watches are and and how we care about them and the fact that we
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  actually care about how they're made.
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  So in a small workshop somewhere in Switzerland or Germany or
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  Japan, and increasingly a few other places around the world,
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  including the the US. There are people right now,
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  today, who spend their entire lives working on hand polishing
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  tiny pieces of metal. Like little teeny tiny pieces of
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  metal, pieces of metal that can be smaller than a grain of rice
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  and screws that are smaller than a grain of rice.
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  And they sit in a bench with a loop, and that's a little teeny
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  tiny magnifying glass that goes over their eyes.
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  And they make and they take these tiny little pieces of
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  metal and they Polish them again, not with a machine, but
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  by hand. They hold them.
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  With a tool that they made themselves because the tool that
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  they need doesn't commercially exist, and that tool itself is
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  typically a piece of wood. That's usually.
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  Grown on their property that's designated specifically for this
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  one task which is to Polish pieces of metal.
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  And some of do this do some people do this for 8 hours a
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  day, some of them do it for years, and some of them do it
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  for their entire. Career.
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  And here's the part. The first time you hear it is
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  going to sound insane. A lot of what they're going to
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  Polish, most actually of what they're going to Polish in the
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  wash. Based on the where the movement
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  is in the architecture, inside the things that they're
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  polishing will never be seen by the person who actually buys the
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  watch. It's actually inside the
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  movement. It's behind sometimes a solid
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  metal case back and so the. Owner will wear the watch for 30
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  years and never once look at the parts inside that these
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  Craftsman spent days or weeks. Or months or years finishing.
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  The Craftsman, though, polished it anyways, and they didn't.
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  Have to. It doesn't change the function
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  of the watch. So why?
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  Well, there's a there's a Japanese word for this.
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  It's spelled SH OK U. NIN Shokunin and it's hard to
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  translate but the English. Or the closest.
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  English version of this is the Craftsman who's the excellence.
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  Is actually its own reward, so it's the idea of that.
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  The work of doing something perfectly is the actual point.
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  The reward isn't praise or. Attention or money, the reward
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  is actually doing it. And so when we or you or they
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  buy one of these watches, and I'm not just talking about like
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  the expensive ones, this idea scales way down.
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  When they buy a watch that has been made this way, they're
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  buying the inside of the movement as well, and they're
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  buying a part of something that they will never see.
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  But they're buying the fact that someone, somewhere polished the
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  piece of metal that they will never look at because they, the
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  person making the watch, couldn't bring themselves not to
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  Polish that piece of metal because they knew that when it
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  was going out of. Their shop that it had.
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  Their name associated with it, and there's an honor and pride
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  in what they were doing. Now.
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  Most of what humans make, especially in this decade, in
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  this era, is the exact opposite of this.
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  Most of what we. By today is designed to look
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  good in photos survive a few years and then we know what
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  happens, right most of it is engineered down to the last cent
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  of value. We call this value engineering
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  Most of it's made by a robot in a factory by a process that's
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  optimized to remove any human attention from the equation.
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  And a handmade watch is the exact opposite of that.
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  It's an object of human attention, and it's.
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  Full. Of human attention.
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  Attention that you can actually feel and sometimes even though
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  you can't see it, you know it's there.
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  And the first time that I understood this, the first time
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  I held a watch and I knew in my hands I was holding the result
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  of someones life, that was the moment that the hobby stopped
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  being just a hobby and it became something else for me.
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  And I'm assuming that if someone sending this to you, they're
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  probably in the same boat as I am.
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  Or if you're. One of my listeners, that's
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  probably something that's resonating with you right now.
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  So hold on to that. We're going to come back to that
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  as well. Now, segment 3, I'm going to
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  call the history part, the very short history part because I'm a
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  history nerd and most of my listeners enjoy history, but you
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  may not. So I'll I'll get to the point.
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  I want to do the history part as quickly as I can because again,
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  history part is where the watch people can get kind of carried.
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  Away and I do the same thing and the the second part kind of the
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  second thing your friend or sibling or partner or whomever
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  sent this to you can kind of get it carried away with as well and
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  so. I'm going to put down this
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  episode and never finish it. So really, there's three things
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  quickly, right? One, for most of human history,
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  knowing what time it was accurately was the hardest
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  technical problem on Earth. In the 1700s, sailors literally
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  could not figure out where they were in the ocean, and they
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  didn't know what time it was. And so as a result, ships sank,
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  empires lost wars, money was offered.
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  British government in 1714 put up a prize equivalent to
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  millions of dollars today for anyone that could.
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  Solve this problem and it was solved by a self.
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  Taught English Carpenter named John Harrison.
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  He spent 40 years of his life building 4 versions of what
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  would become the Marine chronometer.
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  And it's basically a watch that was so precise that they could
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  they could be carried on a ship. And still tell time accurately.
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  And when he finished and he finally got it right, it
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  effectively given the world the ability to know where it was.
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  Anywhere watchmaking didn't start as a luxury, it started as
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  science 2 the wristwatch, the thing that's on your wrist right
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  now, the form factor comes from. War soldiers in the First World
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  War needed both hands free in trenches.
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  And reaching for a pocket watch in combat was an absolute
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  problem. So they strap these things to
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  their wrists and the wristwatch is actually a.
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  Soldiers invention and it still has in its DNA the idea that it
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  should be tough and reliable and readable, especially when your
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  life. Depends on it now.
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  Three, the watch we associate with the moon.
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  The Omega Speedmaster was on Buzz Aldrin's wrist when he
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  walked on the moon In 1969. NASA tested every chronograph on
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  the market for the Apollo program and Omega's product.
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  One. That watch today is still in
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  production. You can literally buy one in
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  whatever year. This is. 2026 at the time of
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  this recording that functions identical to the same watch that
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  went on to the moon. It's the same caliber, the
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  company Omega that makes that watch, they make that with the
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  same hand movement, the same hand wound, the same case
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  architecture, the same dial, the same hands.
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  And so nothing needed to change. And that's the history.
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  Part. So from there I'm going to move
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  on, but I want to leave you with something mechanical watches are
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  the longest continuously produced complex object in human
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  history. They predate cars.
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  They predate electricity. They predate most of the modern
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  world and in their fundamental design.
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  Gear, train, balance, wheel escapement.
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  They have not changed in any essential way in 300 years.
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  There are very few things humans make in this.
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  World that are that old, that still work, that are still made
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  by hand by the same methods in the same towns.
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  So when you put one on, you're putting on a piece of this
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  unbroken chain. And when they are designed,
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  doesn't matter where they're coming from, Switzerland,
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  Germany, the United States, Japan, when they come out of
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  these countries from these workshops, they are not designed
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  for anything but to be. Reliable, accurate and durable
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  their. Goal is that these watches don't
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  come back to the factory needing repair.
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  The exact opposite of what we have with this planned
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  obsolescence. World that we live in.
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  They are designed to be passed down second before we're going
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  to get into the psychology part. It's also, I would say that it's
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  the important part. Now we're going to get into the
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  actual reason. As I build up to that, the I'm
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  going to give you 3 kind of threads and they're all
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  connected. So let's talk about thread one.
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  Collecting is a human universal. Every culture, every era has
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  collectors. Romans collected coins, medieval
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  monks collected manuscripts. The Victorians collected
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  basically everything that they could fit on a shelf like
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  fossils and butterflies and exotic shells.
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  Children, from the moment that they can line up their Hot
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  Wheels in a row by color or their Legos or whatever else
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  that they've built, they're stuffed animals in our house.
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  We call them stuffies. They're Pokémon cards, whatever
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  it is. They're train sets.
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  They organize them. This is not a personality flaw.
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  Collecting is one of the oldest things humans do.
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  There are arguments, evolutionary biologists make
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  some of these, that the instinct together to categorize and to
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  master a small domain is part of what makes our species what it
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  is. We are pattern recognizers.
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  We are completionists, and the kid who lined up their Hot
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  Wheels grew up to be an adult who has opinions about
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  wristwatches or stamps or vinyl or rocks or other varied
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  hobbies. The instinct doesn't change.
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  The hobby will vary, of course, but the instinct doesn't.
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  So the first thing I want you to know is that this is not weird.
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  It's the one. It is one of the most human
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  things that a person can do. Now, the object, the watches, is
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  incidental. If we were born in 1818,
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  eighties, for example, we might be collecting butterflies.
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  Thread two. There are two kinds of
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  pleasures. Aristotle, of all people, drew a
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  distinction. And that is, I think, the most
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  useful framework we're going to use to understand this hobby.
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  So he talked about two kinds of happiness.
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  The first kind is called hedonia.
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  It's a simple pleasure. It's like a good meal, warm
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  bath, the first cup of sip of coffee or tea in the morning.
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  Hedonic pleasures are easy. They're immediate.
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  They don't require any work to enjoy.
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  And honestly, hedonic measures typically are sitting on your
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  phone all the time, drawing your attention away from what you
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  probably should be doing. The second, the second one we're
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  going to talk about is eudaimonia or eudaimonia.
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  And it's kind of this deeper kind.
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  It's the the pleasure of having done something well, the
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  pleasure of mastery, the pleasure of an object that
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  connects you to a memory or a person or a longer life.
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  But this is slower and it requires attention and it can
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  compound over time. So piece of Candy, for example,
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  might be hedonic for you, but the book you're one of your
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  parents read to you when you were small, and now that you're
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  reading that book to your children, that's you demonic.
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  And most modern consumer culture is endo.
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  It's kind of engineered around hedonic pleasure.
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  It's that buy a thing, get a hit, the fade, the hit fades,
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  and then you buy another thing, right?
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  That's the loop. And the loop is most of our
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  economy basically depending on it.
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  But a watch, a watch can be hedonic.
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  Sure, there's that moment of pleasure when they unbox a new
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  one or they sit down with an authorized dealer and they put
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  it on their wrist for the first time.
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  But the the watches that stick, the ones that become the one
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  watch that someone's collection that they were never going to
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  sell, those become eudemonic watches.
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  They become eudemonic. Objects and they.
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  Get better the longer they own them.
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  That means that they get better as they get beat up and
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  scratched. And the dial might change colors
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  and the bezel may change colors because of, you know, that trip
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  that they went on and they had, you know, they, they went into a
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  pool at a resort and the, the chlorine levels were too high
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  and it faded out their bezel that was aluminum or whatever.
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  And again, as these things get more worn, they mean more, not
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  less as the years pass. And so this this distinction
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  there is, I think, the the philosophical core of what
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  people talk about in this hobby. We are starved in modern society
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  for objects that get better with time.
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  Almost everything we buy gets worse.
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  Our phones get slower. Our clothes wear out.
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  Typically most of the time our cars depreciate the second we
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  drive them off the lot. But a good watch, it does the
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  opposite. It builds patina, the story
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  builds, the relationships build and our our memories with those
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  those those watches as we go through life build example of
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  that would be, you know, the moment that I held my child for
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  the first time, right? The the watch that I was wearing
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  when I cut the cord for my daughter and and so on.
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  So those those moments are significant in what we're what,
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  what pieces of art that we're wearing on our wrists.
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  OK, now thread 3. And this is the one I want you
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  to kind of really hear. I want you to do something for
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  me. I want you to think about the
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  photos that matter most in your life, not like the daily ones,
• 18:54
  not the ones on your phone right now that you'll never look at
• 18:56
  again. Not the picture of like the the
• 18:59
  salad or the lasagna that you took at the restaurant.
• 19:01
  You know, not those ones. Like I want you to think about
• 19:04
  the forever images. The ones that will be on a
• 19:07
  frame, possibly on your kids night stand someday.
• 19:10
  The ones that will last or exist in 50 years.
• 19:13
  The ones that might get passed down.
• 19:15
  The one of you holding your child for the first time or
• 19:18
  pushing them on a swing. Maybe it's the photo of you
• 19:21
  walking your daughter down the aisle.
• 19:24
  Or maybe it's that Christmas morning when your kids were
• 19:27
  still. Small And they came down and
• 19:28
  they saw the tree and the presents for the first time.
• 19:31
  Maybe it was a Hanukkah day, maybe it was.
• 19:33
  And then you can kind of fill in the blank, right?
• 19:35
  Maybe it's the portrait of your parents 50th anniversary, maybe
• 19:38
  your graduation. If it's a photo in the hospital,
• 19:41
  maybe the sun sometimes the the moment that you met someone for
• 19:44
  the first time or the moment that you had to say goodbye.
• 19:46
  Any of those images, right? Maybe both of them, the one of
• 19:50
  you when you were born, the one with your child in your arms
• 19:54
  maybe 30 years later. In every single one of those
• 19:57
  photos, some people are wearing something on their wrist.
• 20:00
  And here's the question almost nobody asks until they're in
• 20:02
  this hobby. What do you want it to be?
• 20:04
  Do you want it to be a piece of plastic that will be obsolete in
• 20:07
  three years, whose battery will be dead by the time your
• 20:10
  daughter or your son has their own children that nobody will
• 20:13
  recognize and nobody will inherit.
• 20:15
  And essentially that that object on your wrist will date you.
• 20:18
  A big giant screen that's sitting on your wrist.
• 20:21
  Nobody's going to want to inherit that.
• 20:23
  Nobody will recognize it. Or.
• 20:25
  It's something that will still be working, still be beautiful,
• 20:28
  still keeping time at their wedding, at your daughter's
• 20:31
  wedding, your son's wedding, in the moment that you can't
• 20:34
  imagine yet, or in photos that haven't even been taken yet.
• 20:37
  Something that can be repaired if broken and will last
• 20:41
  lifetimes. Watches are one of those objects
• 20:44
  that we own that are designed to outlive us.
• 20:47
  A mechanical watch, if it's properly cared for, will run for
• 20:50
  centuries, centuries. Patek Philippe has an
• 20:53
  advertising line, and I know that this is just a marketing
• 20:55
  line and I'm aware of that. They say something along the
• 20:58
  lines of you never actually own a Petek Philippe, you merely
• 21:01
  look after it for the next generation.
• 21:03
  And yeah, that's marketing, but it's also true.
• 21:05
  And it's not just true of Petek, it's true of Seiko and Tudor.
• 21:09
  It's true of all of the small luxury brands, and it's also
• 21:13
  true of all the micro and independent brands.
• 21:16
  A brand with a single person in a workshop who makes one watch a
• 21:19
  year. It's true of this vintage
• 21:21
  Hamilton that you, maybe your grandfather got when they
• 21:23
  retired in 1964 and now it's in a drawer of your mother's house.
• 21:27
  Mechanical objects that were made with dignity, to be
• 21:30
  repaired, passed down and live with.
• 21:32
  Photos are forever. The thing on your wrist should
• 21:35
  be as well. That, I think, is the deepest
• 21:38
  reason for this hobby. We are choosing very
• 21:40
  deliberately what gets to be in the pictures with us.
• 21:43
  We are choosing what gets to be on the wrist of the day is that
• 21:46
  we are going to be remembered when we're gone and something
• 21:49
  that we, when we're gone, will be able to be held and
• 21:53
  cherished, but also worn and used in the way that it was
• 21:56
  intended by people that we care about, that we will pass them
• 21:59
  to. And so we're choosing it now
• 22:01
  while we still can. And again, this is one of the
• 22:04
  very few decisions that we get to make in this world about the
• 22:07
  things that get passed on and the things that we're remembered
• 22:10
  for. Now, Segment 5.
• 22:11
  Yes, we know how we sound. Let me get into the funny part.
• 22:14
  Or at least I think it's funny because I laugh at myself and my
• 22:17
  wife thinks I'm insane. OK, the heavy section was done.
• 22:20
  Let's bring this down. I want to make fun of myself for
• 22:22
  a little bit because again, I think we and I deserve it.
• 22:25
  And because if you've made it this far in the episode, you've
• 22:28
  earned it as well. I'm going to say this straight
• 22:29
  faced watch people are ridiculous.
• 22:32
  I know I am one. I have a podcast for niche
• 22:36
  people around the world that listen to this podcast and we
• 22:39
  realize that we are somewhat ridiculous and we accept it and
• 22:43
  actually be kind of enjoy it. We have opinions about lug width
• 22:47
  and that's the part of the watch where the strap attaches to the
• 22:50
  actual watch head. We will argue about it.
• 22:53
  We'll say the things like the lugs on this one are too long on
• 22:56
  my wrist in front of you with no awareness that we are speaking
• 22:59
  completely different languages and and speaking in tongues to
• 23:02
  you understand that we also use phrases like wrist presence,
• 23:05
  like with a straight face, we'll say wrist presence and wrist
• 23:09
  presence is the the watch communities way of saying, how
• 23:11
  does it look on your arm? We've invented a special term
• 23:15
  for it because regular words weren't fancy enough.
• 23:18
  We know what a hairspring is and we'll tell you about it
• 23:20
  unprompted. I'm sorry.
• 23:22
  I apologize for for your friends as well.
• 23:24
  The hairspring is a tiny coiled spring that's inside the watch
• 23:27
  and it controls time keeping. And we learn this at some point
• 23:30
  and we will not stop sharing this knowledge with everyone in
• 23:32
  the world. I'm sorry we learned how to
• 23:34
  pronounce some words. Atom RP gay.
• 23:36
  Basharan Konstantan, Elonga and Zon.
• 23:39
  And if you listen to my podcast, they laugh at me because I.
• 23:42
  Go around the world incorrectly pronouncing tons of words in
• 23:45
  tons of different languages because again, I'm from Southern
• 23:48
  California. And then we silently judge each
• 23:51
  other for getting them wrong. And I'll give you a little hint
• 23:53
  into my podcast as well. Sometimes I pronounce words
• 23:56
  incorrectly on purpose just cuz, well, I think it's funny.
• 23:59
  So you'll hear me in one podcast say it correctly and then the
• 24:01
  other ones I won't just cuz I think it's a good.
• 24:03
  It's a moment to make my listeners cringe sometimes.
• 24:07
  And again, we will judge people for saying words incorrectly,
• 24:10
  but we won't ever tell them. We'll just, you know, know that
• 24:12
  we're judging them and that's part of our code.
• 24:14
  And we have a watch box and some of us have watch winders and we
• 24:17
  have watch rolls and we have a watch pouch and a watch travel
• 24:20
  case. And we don't see a problem with
• 24:21
  that. And we will defend with passion
• 24:23
  a $200 micro brand against a $200,000 independent watchmaker.
• 24:28
  And we'll do this in the same conversation, sometimes even in
• 24:30
  the same. Sentence like I just did and
• 24:32
  it'll make no sense to anybody outside of this hobby.
• 24:34
  And it makes perfect sense to us, even though sometimes we
• 24:37
  kind of realize that we're being ridiculous and we'll use the
• 24:39
  word patina approvingly. Patina is where this watch gets
• 24:43
  aged and it is another context. In other parts of the world it
• 24:46
  would be considered damaged, but we celebrate it.
• 24:49
  We actually pay extra the things that are damaged.
• 24:51
  We pay more for the watch that is more damaged.
• 24:54
  I know that this doesn't make sense to defend, but I'm going
• 24:57
  to try this anyhow. Some people, there used to be a
• 25:00
  time where you would pay extra money to have your jeans look
• 25:02
  like they were already worn as opposed to just wearing your
• 25:04
  jeans. We have a text group, you know
• 25:06
  about this one probably. We text watches to each other
• 25:10
  and friends inside of it and we do do it every day and we've
• 25:13
  done this for like years and we continue to do it every day,
• 25:15
  presumably until we die because if one of us misses a day, the
• 25:19
  others will check in and make sure that they're OK.
• 25:21
  We can identify a watch on someone's wrist from across a
• 25:24
  restaurant. And this is a real skill.
• 25:25
  It's not a useful skill in any way, shape or form, but but we
• 25:28
  have that skill anyhow. And we can produce and pronounce
• 25:31
  words like a guy O'Shea and we know what it means.
• 25:34
  And this is fancy word for it's kind of a decorative engraving
• 25:37
  on a watch style and it's done with these antique machines.
• 25:40
  And there may be like 100 people in the whole world who can do
• 25:42
  this professionally. And we know like 2 of their
• 25:44
  names. And we will tell you both of
• 25:46
  their names if you give us the opportunity.
• 25:47
  So give us the opportunity and let us, you know, tell you about
• 25:50
  those two things. And we say things like, I'm
• 25:52
  thinking about my next acquisition.
• 25:54
  Acquisition is like, like we're at a museum.
• 25:57
  Look, we're not a museum. We're a guy or a girl in their
• 26:00
  kitchen at like 11:30 at night looking at watches on the
• 26:02
  Internet. But we say acquisition.
• 26:04
  I could keep going, but I'm going to stop.
• 26:06
  Look, we, we're a lot. I know, we know, and this
• 26:10
  attract, this hobby attracts a very particular type of person.
• 26:14
  We are detail oriented. We are obsessive.
• 26:17
  I would say slightly obsessive, but I'm going to say straight up
• 26:19
  obsessive. We're willing to read 15,000
• 26:22
  word forum threads about a discontinued movement from 1972.
• 26:26
  We are not as a community known for our restraint.
• 26:29
  You can check out Reddit for that.
• 26:30
  There is 0 restraint on that, on that format.
• 26:33
  We have opinions about things that you might have never
• 26:36
  thought about. We have spent money on watches
• 26:38
  that we have never told our partners the real price of.
• 26:41
  We have all of us at some point use the phrase grail watch
• 26:46
  unironically. And so you are allowed to laugh
• 26:48
  at us because we are laughing at us.
• 26:50
  The first sign of a serious watch person is the ability to
• 26:53
  make fun of being a watch person.
• 26:55
  So if your friend or your partner or someone that you care
• 26:58
  about sibling can't laugh at themselves about this, maybe you
• 27:01
  send them this episode. If you're a watch person and you
• 27:03
  have another watch person, that's might be who you're going
• 27:05
  to send it to as well because they probably need it more than
• 27:07
  you do. Okay, one more section, and this
• 27:10
  is kind of an important one. Let's talk about the community
• 27:12
  segment 6. I'm going to tell you something
• 27:14
  that I think is the most important thing about this hobby
• 27:17
  and almost nobody outside of it talks about.
• 27:19
  Most of the people on the inside don't even really fully
• 27:22
  understand it, but yet they live with it every single day.
• 27:26
  The community is the point, the watches, and I'm being
• 27:29
  completely honest with you here, the watches are kind of the
• 27:32
  excuse to let me explain what I mean.
• 27:34
  I'm going to text group. This text group is amazing, and
• 27:37
  I won't tell you who's in it exactly, but I'll tell you the
• 27:40
  composition. There are different people from
• 27:42
  different races is in this group different religions, devout,
• 27:45
  observant, conflicted, lapsed, atheist.
• 27:48
  There's different genders, there's different sexual
• 27:50
  orientations. There's different generations.
• 27:52
  You know, there's an age range of decades.
• 27:55
  There's different professions, right?
• 27:56
  There are people with terminal degrees.
• 27:59
  There are people who work in specific fields, are people who
• 28:02
  work with with, you know, people who are at risk.
• 28:05
  It's a remarkable field and community that that I get to
• 28:09
  work with and chat with. And they come from different
• 28:11
  places and our cultures come from different places and very
• 28:15
  different political views. And you could pick any other
• 28:18
  topic in the world and this group would statistically
• 28:21
  disagree about it almost violently sometimes on a few of
• 28:25
  the topics. And every day for years, we text
• 28:28
  each other pictures of watches. And we disagree about watches
• 28:31
  too, by the way, we disagree all the time.
• 28:33
  One person and loves a model, another person finds it
• 28:36
  atrocious and sometimes we start to calibrate with each other of
• 28:38
  these two folks will probably like this watch and the other
• 28:41
  folks may not. Someone might be going through a
• 28:43
  vintage phase and other person's going through exclusively into
• 28:46
  modern or indie watchmaking. A third person might only wear
• 28:49
  dive watches. They may wear larger watches or
• 28:51
  smaller watches. And we tease one another and I'm
• 28:54
  going to give you kind of real generalized examples that, you
• 28:56
  know, last, you know, week. For example, there may be a
• 29:00
  famous watch that's coming out and we will argue over a
• 29:02
  particular brand or whether they're overrated or underrated.
• 29:06
  Or maybe this is a new masterpiece and the argument
• 29:08
  goes exactly nowhere and nobody has convinced anyone of anything
• 29:12
  but the. But by the end, you know, one or
• 29:14
  two people have actually bought that watch and one person is
• 29:17
  probably going to be returning theirs or selling it or a catch
• 29:19
  and release, which is where we get a watch and then we wear it
• 29:22
  for a day or two and realize, man, this isn't the watch that I
• 29:24
  wanted. And then we move it on and we're
• 29:25
  all laughing about it. And nobody won and nobody had to
• 29:29
  win. And I want you to think about
• 29:31
  this in your own life. How many groups of people that
• 29:34
  you know can you still do this with who disagree daily across
• 29:38
  many lines of differences and still show up the next morning
• 29:42
  after mourning, after mourning 4 years.
• 29:45
  There are families that can't do that.
• 29:47
  And the honest answer is for many of us, not many, maybe
• 29:50
  none. The watch hobby is, I think, a
• 29:53
  true lot of deep enthusiasts. But watches in particular has a
• 29:58
  few features, or they have a few features that make it work in
• 30:00
  this way, and I want to walk you through them because I think
• 30:03
  they're interesting in their own right.
• 30:04
  One, watches are a neutral object.
• 30:07
  Look, cars carry status. Wine carries class, sports carry
• 30:12
  this kind of tribalism. Watches are weirdly free of all
• 30:16
  of that. A $200 Seiko diver is welcome in
• 30:19
  the same conversation as a $200,000 Patek Philippe.
• 30:22
  The discussion isn't about which is better, it's about which one
• 30:26
  and would what each watch is. The hobby has somehow evolved
• 30:30
  past the obvious status hierarchy in a way that most
• 30:34
  luxury objects and anything that's luxury adjacent adjacent
• 30:37
  hobbies haven't. And I'm not exactly sure why
• 30:40
  that is, but it's true. The only time you're going to
• 30:42
  see people kind of ranking this kind of stuff or people that are
• 30:45
  typically new in the hobby that are going on and just created a
• 30:48
  Reddit account and we'll go and hate it on one another, but for
• 30:51
  the most part, people who've been in this enthusiast circle
• 30:54
  for a long time, there's a massive amount of respect for
• 30:57
  every watch that's going to be coming out.
• 30:59
  Now there's a thankful that we we all kind of make fun of
• 31:02
  together, but even in that case, we're still respectful.
• 31:05
  Now to the hobby rewards earnestness and earnestness
• 31:09
  alone. You can't fake enthusiasm for
• 31:12
  the things that this community cares about.
• 31:14
  You can't pretend to be excited about hand finishing on a
• 31:16
  movement that you've never looked at.
• 31:18
  The community can tell the reward in this hobby is genuine
• 31:21
  knowledge plus genuine love, and there are no shortcuts for that.
• 31:25
  But it also means that when someone doesn't know something
• 31:28
  and they're interested, we are more than willing to share and
• 31:31
  be kind and ask questions and actually engage honest questions
• 31:36
  about certain things. How do I size a bracelet?
• 31:38
  How do I use a timing bezel? What is the GMT feature on a
• 31:42
  watch and how do I use this right?
• 31:44
  There's again, no shortcuts. But this means that everyone in
• 31:47
  the room, on the some level, has earned their way by paying
• 31:50
  attention for this for a long time, and that produces this
• 31:53
  unusual respect for one another. And it also means that there's a
• 31:57
  respect for people who have just come into the hobby. 3 The
• 32:02
  object is the focal point, not the person, And this is huge.
• 32:05
  When the conversation is about the watch, the person disappears
• 32:09
  for a moment. The thing that usually divides
• 32:12
  us in modern life identity, opinion, status, ideology, they
• 32:16
  recede. What's on the table is a small
• 32:19
  mechanical object. We are all looking at it
• 32:21
  together. We're trying to understand it
• 32:24
  together. The shared object becomes a kind
• 32:27
  of neutral ground that almost no other topic provides.
• 32:30
  And I'll give you an example. I've been to meetups where there
• 32:33
  were celebrities there and the celebrity status of someone
• 32:36
  slides away when they geek out about about someone that they've
• 32:41
  never met before, who's in a field that's not exciting, pulls
• 32:44
  out a watch that they've never seen before.
• 32:46
  And that celebrity is now enamored with someone that you
• 32:51
  would immediately look at and go, what is happening in this
• 32:53
  space right now? And what's happening is the
• 32:56
  entire room is realizing this person has a piece unique, which
• 33:00
  is a one-of-a-kind watch that came from.
• 33:02
  And you can fill in the blank with whatever master watchmaker
• 33:05
  that you might want to fill in that you're excited about.
• 33:08
  And they all stop and they all recognize that this is something
• 33:10
  very special and they may not ever get the opportunity to see
• 33:13
  this again. And that ties them all together.
• 33:16
  The celebrity status goes away when we realize that what we're
• 33:19
  looking at has more to do with the art.
• 33:22
  And so that's a very, very different space that we get to
• 33:24
  play in. Four.
• 33:26
  The hobby has a pretty long learning curve and there are no
• 33:29
  shortcuts. You can't speed up and you can't
• 33:32
  speed run. Watch collecting.
• 33:34
  Look, you can Google your way to understanding what a chronometer
• 33:36
  is and you can. You'll have to spend some years,
• 33:39
  you're going to make some mistakes.
• 33:40
  You have to buy the wrong watches and you'll sell them and
• 33:43
  you'll buy another wrong watch and they'll sell those too.
• 33:45
  And everyone in the community has done this.
• 33:47
  Everyone has been a beginner, which means that when a new
• 33:50
  person shows up, they're welcomed because we all remember
• 33:54
  what it was like to be them. These 4 features, they add up to
• 33:57
  a community that has an, in my experience, almost no
• 34:00
  equivalent. There have been a lot of groups
• 34:02
  in my life. Sports teams, work groups,
• 34:05
  faith-based communities, neighborhood groups, hot work,
• 34:08
  hobbies. There are no hobby groups for
• 34:12
  things other than watches, None of them that have looked like
• 34:16
  this. I've been to watch meetups.
• 34:17
  And again, these events are real, by the way, there where
• 34:20
  people get together and they show up in person and they show
• 34:24
  each other their watches and then they talk about them.
• 34:26
  And I've been at meetups that contained a Catholic priest and
• 34:29
  software engineers and teachers and a dude who worked on an oil
• 34:32
  rig and doctors and surgeons. And on paper, they have like
• 34:36
  nothing in common. And they have everything in
• 34:38
  common. They're there for the same same
• 34:40
  reason. And they all left as friends,
• 34:42
  exchanging numbers, adding people to text groups.
• 34:45
  And I have, through this hobby, met people that I would have
• 34:47
  never met otherwise. I have, through this hobby, had
• 34:50
  conversations that I would have never had otherwise.
• 34:53
  I have, through this hobby, become friends with people whose
• 34:56
  lives look nothing like mine, and who, through the lens of
• 35:00
  every other category in the world, would be categories that
• 35:03
  I was told should not cross. But the watches are the excuse,
• 35:07
  and the community is the point. And if I had to give the single
• 35:10
  most honest reason for why I do this, for why I keep doing this
• 35:14
  decades in with no sign of stopping, and the fact that I
• 35:17
  have a podcast about it, that's the reason.
• 35:19
  Not the craftsmanship, not the although the craftsmanship is
• 35:23
  real. Not the history, although the
• 35:25
  history is real and I love history.
• 35:27
  And not the wedding photos, although that is real and it's
• 35:30
  true. And genuinely that that does
• 35:32
  pull at the the eudemonic aspect, the whole world in this
• 35:35
  space. But the real reason the hobby
• 35:37
  has given me this, it's giving me this group of friends who in
• 35:40
  a fragmented and very divided world, they can sit down at a
• 35:43
  table every day, virtually mostly, and sometimes
• 35:46
  physically, and pay attention to the same small beautiful objects
• 35:50
  together. And I think that is rare than
• 35:52
  than it should be. And it is, I think one of the
• 35:54
  most important things that is in my life.
• 35:57
  And now segment 7, we're going to talk about why, you know,
• 35:59
  what we're actually doing. OK, so let's pull this whole
• 36:01
  thing together because the hobby really isn't about watches.
• 36:04
  And I mean, yeah, it is. The watches are wonderful.
• 36:06
  We've what we've talked about, the craftsmanship is real, the
• 36:10
  history is real, the art is real.
• 36:11
  The photo argument is real. All that's true.
• 36:14
  But underneath the watch is what we're actually doing.
• 36:17
  And I think most of us don't even know we're doing this, even
• 36:20
  though we we, we do it everyday. What we're actually doing is
• 36:23
  practicing a set of things that modern life makes very hard to
• 36:26
  practice. We're practicing patience.
• 36:28
  We are giving up or saving up for years, possibly for specific
• 36:33
  objects. We're sitting on a wait list for
• 36:35
  watches that may take decades to arrive.
• 36:38
  We're waiting for the right one to come up at the right price
• 36:40
  and saying no 100 times before we say yes.
• 36:44
  In a world where everything is a one click instant moment
• 36:48
  gratification, this is a strange discipline to learn.
• 36:51
  But it's a discipline. We're practicing patience and
• 36:54
  practicing attention. We're looking at small things
• 36:57
  carefully for very long periods, and we're noticing details
• 37:00
  caring about a chamfer on a bridge or a particular shade of
• 37:03
  blue on a dial. In a world where attention is
• 37:06
  the scarcest resource in the economy, watch people are
• 37:09
  weirdly training themselves to pay attention and we practice
• 37:12
  care. Watches are objects that you
• 37:14
  maintain, you wind them, you service them, you learn how they
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  work, you take care of them, and at last they get better.
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  In a world built around disposability, this is almost
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  like a countercultural act. We're practicing conversation
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  across differences, just as we talked about people who disagree
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  basically about almost everything can sit at the same
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  group and talk about the same object and walk away as friends.
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  This is something humans used to be much better AT and have
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  somewhat lost. The watch community has
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  accidentally kept us alive and we're practicing.
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  I think the deepest one. We're practicing caring about
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  something so deeply without it needing to pay off.
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  The watch on your wrist will not get noticed by anything.
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  The watch on your wrist will not get you a promotion.
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  It will not impress most people you meet.
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  Most people won't even notice it.
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  It will not improve any social standing in any way that most
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  people would recognize. We are caring for it because of
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  our own sake, for ourselves, for possibly the next generation.
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  We're doing the human thing of finding a thing that we love and
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  we're loving it, and that's all. And in a culture that's obsessed
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  with optimization and output and ROI, doing something purely
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  because you love it, I think is one of the most radical
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  practices a person can do. And that's what we're really
• 38:29
  doing. We're collecting reasons to pay
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  attention. We're collecting reasons to
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  care. We're collecting people who care
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  about the same things in a world where it's getting harder and
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  harder to find them. And we use watches as an excuse
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  for that. Now, Segment 8, I'm going to
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  talk about what to say next time.
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  So OK, we're at the end. You've done well.
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  I want to leave you with something practical.
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  The next time the watch person in your life starts to lose it
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  at dinner, gets that particular gleam in their eye and opens
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  their mouth and starts to explain a thing that nobody
• 38:58
  asked about, here's what I want you to try to say.
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  Try, try this instead. Show me the one you're wearing
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  today. Those are some magical words
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  persons probably going to light up.
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  They'll tell you a story. The story will probably take a
• 39:08
  couple of minutes and probably involve a specific person or a
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  specific moment or a specific reason they chose to wear that
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  watch on that date. Let them tell you.
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  You don't have to remember it, just they need to tell it.
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  Another question you might want to ask is something along lines
• 39:21
  of like what's the story behind this one?
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  The variation on the theme. Every watch person has a story
• 39:28
  of their own. They've been waiting to tell it
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  and here's their opportunity. Or maybe you ask, you know, I
• 39:33
  don't get it. But but I love that you love it,
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  right? It's kind of the gold standard
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  response when you're responding to them.
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  It's kind of the perfect sentence.
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  It says, you know, I'm not pretending to understand.
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  I'm I'm also not making fun of you.
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  I'll, I'll there's moments for that.
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  I'm acknowledging that this matters to you.
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  And because you matter to me, you're caring about this matters
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  to me. And if you're remembering
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  nothing from this episode, remember this one.
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  It works for watches. It works for almost any anything
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  someone you love is into. Maybe the response of something
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  like, hey, I'm sorry. I rolled my eyes at the
• 40:04
  Christmas present, right? This one's for the partners.
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  You know who you are. He knew what you were doing.
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  They they picked it out for months.
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  This wasn't a generic gift. They saw it and they thought of
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  you and they spent the money and they wrapped it and they were
• 40:14
  excited to give it to you. And they tell them your story
• 40:17
  and they forgive you. And hopefully they're probably
• 40:18
  have and maybe one more. All right, maybe the statement
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  of tell me about the people in your text group.
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  It's a secret one. This is a question that almost
• 40:26
  no non watch person ever asks, but it's the one for most of us
• 40:31
  that opens up everything. The watches are wonderful.
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  The watches are the excuse, but the people are the point.
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  So ask about the people. All right, let's end this thing.
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  You got stuff to do. If you're a watch person, you
• 40:42
  made it this far. Thank you for listening.
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  I hope this episode is useful. Send it to people that that
• 40:47
  maybe you think might want to listen to it.
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  Send it to the ones that are in your watch group that maybe
• 40:52
  probably should listen to it and maybe it's your way of saying
• 40:54
  that you appreciate them. Maybe send it to your
• 40:56
  mother-in-law or your mother. Those have been confused about
• 41:00
  what you've been doing for the past couple of decades.
• 41:02
  Or maybe you're brand new and you're just looking for a reason
• 41:04
  of why you're in this hobby and you can't explain it.
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  We made this for you. If you're a non watch person and
• 41:09
  you've made it this far, thank you honestly for sitting through
• 41:11
  it. You didn't have to.
• 41:13
  The fact that you did say something about who you are and
• 41:15
  your character, and it also says something about the person who
• 41:19
  sent it to you and about what you're willing to do for those
• 41:22
  people. And guess what?
• 41:23
  That that's love. Whether you're a tough guy and
• 41:25
  military brothers and sisters that we have out there.
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  I know who you are. You're big squishies on the
• 41:29
  inside. I've seen you around your kids.
• 41:31
  That is itself the answer to a lot of these questions about a
• 41:35
  lot of these things. They're not just about watches
• 41:37
  and and one last thing. The next time you're at a
• 41:39
  wedding or a holiday or graduation or any moment your
• 41:42
  family raises a camera or a phone and someone says to get
• 41:46
  everybody together, look at the risks and the room.
• 41:48
  Look what people chose to wear on the day that they want to be
• 41:51
  remembered. So that's what we're doing.
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  That's that's all we're doing. We're choosing what gets to be
• 41:55
  in the picture with us. I'm watch Offski.
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  Take care of yourselves and wear something good, whatever good
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  means to you. Thanks for listening.
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  Hey. What's on your wrist?
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  Under 3 hander, stainless steel on my skin.
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  I want a daily driver, not a shrine.
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  I can't fit in Casio on Monday mornings.
• 42:31
  Ella's got me saying stop Topper Friday in the group chat and my
• 42:36
  budget just got dropped. I can't afford that.
• 42:39
  Still. I stare at it. 80 can suck it.
• 42:42
  I'm in love with a habit. Lauren's group chat going to
• 42:44
  make me broke. One more shot swap and I swear
• 42:47
  it's solid joke. What's on your wrist day?
• 42:51
  What's on your wrist day? What's on your wrist day?
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  What's on your wrist day? I just can't resist wash up.
• 43:05
  Wash up. Popped out, crown on the wrist,
• 43:09
  third swap of the day. I know, I know, Brown on
• 43:12
  leather, steel on steel. Then I change it for the show.
• 43:14
  Got on my wish list, but I'm not acting rich.
• 43:17
  Ready Bros? Gonna fry as if I call this one
• 43:19
  a grill and switch. I can't afford that.
• 43:21
  Stare at it and suck it. I didn't mean that I'm in love
• 43:25
  with a habit shot back in the comments.
• 43:28
  Got me losing sleep but I laugh it off because we don't take it
• 43:31
  too deep. What's on your wrist day?
• 43:34
  What's? On your wristy The daily driver,
• 43:39
  baby. What's on your wrist day?
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  What's on your wrist day? I just.
• 43:47
  Can't reason what's up? What's up on the crap?
• 43:51
  The rest Perpetual calendar, freehander and a dream.
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  Stainless steel. A scratch or two.
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  Still the king of the scene. Sell us new drop stop that.
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  I click and then I flinch. Then I post.
• 44:10
  Just browsing and I buy it in a pinch.
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  What's on your wrist? Say what's on your wrist.
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  Hey, daily driver baby. Why?
• 44:30
  What's on your wrist? Say I just can't resist.
• 44:32
  What's up? What's up on the crap?
• 44:34
  What's? On your wrist?
• 44:37
  What's on your? Wrist what's on me?
• 44:39
  Broke again? What's?
• 44:48
  On your wrist, say hey, what's? On your wrist.
• 44:51
  What's up, Ski? Let's go.
• 44:54
  We don't take ourselves too seriously.