Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / War Torn Produced By Damir Hadzalic Facing The Physical Wars Within To Locate Peace
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- 0:41Speaker 2: Oh Max fun? How are you doing?
- 0:43Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a conversation with you,
- 0:46Speaker 1: because my god, I love where you're exploring music and
- 0:50Speaker 1: you're taking listeners to it.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Good, thank you, thank you.
- 0:55Speaker 3: I appreciate this. First first I hear you from me
- 0:59Speaker 3: so greedy.
- 1:00Speaker 1: I mean not. One of the things that I love
- 1:03Speaker 1: about your music is the fact that there's there's emotion
- 1:07Speaker 1: really tied into it. How is it that you're able
- 1:09Speaker 1: to do this because I mean not everybody. I mean
- 1:12Speaker 1: everybody just kind of just gets in there and says, yeah,
- 1:13Speaker 1: I do music, But no, when you do music, you
- 1:16Speaker 1: bring it.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Well. With this particular project, it does kind of stem
- 1:26Speaker 3: off of my life story along with everything they were
- 1:31Speaker 3: kind of seen in current day. So it is difficult
- 1:40Speaker 3: to actually do this, to be honest, to kind of
- 1:42Speaker 3: talk about my family's story and then try to connect it.
- 1:48Speaker 2: And it's a way.
- 1:50Speaker 3: It's the way I'm trying to get people connected to
- 1:55Speaker 3: the music more for them to really listen. In a way.
- 2:04Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm very inspired about when
- 2:06Speaker 1: it comes to your music is I remember when the
- 2:09Speaker 1: Sex Pistols sat down with me and they talked about
- 2:12Speaker 1: how their music was all about people need to know
- 2:15Speaker 1: how we have felt in life, and especially when it
- 2:17Speaker 1: comes to war, and then you're doing your project called
- 2:19Speaker 1: war Torn. I love how you're able to turn that
- 2:23Speaker 1: negative energy into something where we can where we're pulled
- 2:26Speaker 1: into the storyline and we understand as well as we're
- 2:30Speaker 1: growing with you as you talk about these moments.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I appreciate you listening to stings or within
- 2:45Speaker 3: or I'm still building to release the full project. I
- 2:48Speaker 3: did release, dream of just reselling, and I have been
- 2:53Speaker 3: reaching out as you know, I'm I'm the producer of
- 2:56Speaker 3: this project, so me trying to gather the voices is
- 3:01Speaker 3: for this project has really helped me build it to
- 3:06Speaker 3: what it is right now. And I really got to
- 3:10Speaker 3: appreciate this one of the artists from Zimbabwe, Marco or Denise,
- 3:14Speaker 3: which you'll be hearing all over the project, and that
- 3:20Speaker 3: that is the part that you know, it's not just
- 3:23Speaker 3: the producer, but it's with the artists, and when you
- 3:26Speaker 3: guys work together, it's you know, that's when the magic happens.
- 3:29Speaker 3: So I'm really appreciative that I was able to collaborate
- 3:34Speaker 3: well not just him, but several different other artists across
- 3:39Speaker 3: the globe.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean, and the way that you guys
- 3:42Speaker 1: are really building this project up, because I mean, to
- 3:45Speaker 1: be in that recording studio with you has got to
- 3:47Speaker 1: be just something absolutely spectacular, because proceeds from this are
- 3:51Speaker 1: going towards children in war zones. When you're recording like this,
- 3:54Speaker 1: you've got a plan, you've got a purpose. And as
- 3:57Speaker 1: the producer, I mean, my god, it's all up there
- 3:59Speaker 1: in your head and you've got to make it to
- 4:01Speaker 1: where it's got to become a reality for the rest
- 4:03Speaker 1: of us to catch up with.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
- 4:07Speaker 3: The objective it's like the music is like objective based
- 4:11Speaker 3: in a way. It's almost like military in a way
- 4:13Speaker 3: where I'm trying to h really create something that resonates
- 4:20Speaker 3: and try not to make it too forceful. So like
- 4:22Speaker 3: a lot of different a lot of songs on here,
- 4:25Speaker 3: I'll let the artists deliver what I feel like as
- 4:31Speaker 3: is authentically themselves and not trying to involve myself too much,
- 4:36Speaker 3: but just given the idea, and then what this project
- 4:41Speaker 3: actually means, not just for myself before it's its existence,
- 4:47Speaker 3: because the plan is for it to be a funnel
- 4:51Speaker 3: for people just not only it is raising awareness, but
- 4:56Speaker 3: like I said, any purchases, anything that's the screams, anything,
- 5:03Speaker 3: any revenue that I get out of this project, no
- 5:05Speaker 3: matter what it is, I am funneling this to the.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Cause that is That is the whole idea.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Yeah, well you do that with a song piece. I
- 5:13Speaker 1: mean you really do open up that door for us
- 5:16Speaker 1: to feel it rather than just hear or see a word.
- 5:20Speaker 1: So how did that song peace come into play?
- 5:25Speaker 2: Well, it started with the song war Woulden.
- 5:29Speaker 3: So War Wooden has the Horseshoe Gang on it, which
- 5:33Speaker 3: are the younger brothers of King Crooked, which is who
- 5:37Speaker 3: is who starts off the record on Peace. So that
- 5:43Speaker 3: combination was really blessed down to me from the Horseshoe Game.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Uh they uh as when they when they sends war
- 5:53Speaker 3: Wooden back to me, I didn't know exactly what to
- 5:56Speaker 3: expect because we had this conversation about what the music
- 6:01Speaker 3: sounds like. And then as they got to know me
- 6:04Speaker 3: and they found out about my background, you know, being
- 6:06Speaker 3: a refugee and growing up.
- 6:10Speaker 2: You know in the.
- 6:10Speaker 3: States and the projects they delivered war would In And
- 6:15Speaker 3: immediately that's where I was just thinking of, Okay, what
- 6:19Speaker 3: do I do with this? Now I have this song?
- 6:22Speaker 3: I don't I've never released any music before. I need
- 6:25Speaker 3: to start figuring out how.
- 6:27Speaker 2: To release war would In.
- 6:29Speaker 3: And as I started researching and everything that's been going
- 6:37Speaker 3: on in world during that War Wooden time period, that's
- 6:40Speaker 3: when the cause idea came across. And of course at
- 6:44Speaker 3: that time period, I was also one of the production
- 6:46Speaker 3: do I have that can actually forward this? It's like,
- 6:51Speaker 3: what's the next step? Now? Where do I start building
- 6:53Speaker 3: because I have something here that resonated with myself really
- 6:58Speaker 3: deeply and and hopes that within what was or others
- 7:02Speaker 3: like it did with myself. So I asked Hortschugan, would
- 7:10Speaker 3: Kim quoted, would he be willing to listen to this
- 7:12Speaker 3: production and see if this would inspire him?
- 7:16Speaker 2: And I only want him to reach back.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Out to me if this is something that he truly
- 7:19Speaker 3: would want to put his name on.
- 7:22Speaker 2: And I had this video that I wanted to watch
- 7:26Speaker 2: with the production, and.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Then I sent him just a video with the beat
- 7:32Speaker 3: in the background, and he responded back and like he
- 7:38Speaker 3: was like wow, he took like a screenshot of part
- 7:41Speaker 3: of the video and he just he kuld of believed
- 7:43Speaker 3: what he was seeing and and you know.
- 7:47Speaker 2: He delivered.
- 7:48Speaker 3: I was very that he was such a professional too
- 7:51Speaker 3: when when he delivered it back to me and he
- 7:54Speaker 3: knew like immediately, like he knew what he needed to do.
- 7:58Speaker 3: And I was she came back liking like a bullet
- 8:03Speaker 3: with with those lines and it was such spoken word
- 8:08Speaker 3: that I was like, Wow, I have some It's like
- 8:12Speaker 3: I had the next level. I felt like I just
- 8:15Speaker 3: went up. I went up a level with with the
- 8:18Speaker 3: with you know, with the message and and you know
- 8:23Speaker 3: that's that's where it goes into all right, I have
- 8:26Speaker 3: can crooked this he is you know in the hip
- 8:30Speaker 3: hop world, he is. No everyone knows who came crooked?
- 8:34Speaker 3: Is this is affiliate issue with eminem you know, slaughter House,
- 8:37Speaker 3: Joe Budden, you know, he's recognizable me.
- 8:41Speaker 2: People know him.
- 8:41Speaker 3: So I'm like, I saw, I'm thinking to myself, I'm
- 8:44Speaker 3: I'm this underground producer.
- 8:45Speaker 2: I have came crooked on the record, and.
- 8:47Speaker 3: You've given me some really substantial, like real lyrics that
- 8:53Speaker 3: I need to see how I could Uh. I started
- 8:58Speaker 3: to do research on artists that have done similar things
- 9:02Speaker 3: with music or have given back, so like, I started
- 9:06Speaker 3: reaching down to bigger artists. I mean, I started finding
- 9:09Speaker 3: information on people like Kendrick Lamar, people like Lupe Fiasco
- 9:14Speaker 3: and Mortal Technique that have don any music, and I
- 9:20Speaker 3: started pitching. I was on a rampant pitch mode of
- 9:24Speaker 3: just sending pulled emails out and and as as that started,
- 9:30Speaker 3: you know happening, I was listening to The Games project,
- 9:38Speaker 3: his most recent project, and I heard I heard a
- 9:40Speaker 3: few lines of him mentioning uh Sudan and Daza and
- 9:45Speaker 3: humanitarian aid. And then I went to his page and
- 9:49Speaker 3: I realized that he's given opportunities to artists and producers,
- 9:54Speaker 3: and you know, I started doing my research and I started,
- 9:59Speaker 3: you know, sending emails, drug messages, and I ended up
- 10:04Speaker 3: getting a message back and uh.
- 10:07Speaker 2: And that's that's essentially how that started with UH with him.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Demir ho do
- 10:14Speaker 1: is Lich coming up next. The name of the music
- 10:18Speaker 1: project war Torn from Demir Hotislitch in looking at your story,
- 10:23Speaker 1: experiencing your story, and I want, I want listeners to
- 10:26Speaker 1: really understand your story in a very creative way. Are
- 10:31Speaker 1: you not with war Torn and with the song piece
- 10:33Speaker 1: and all the others involved, are you not sending a
- 10:35Speaker 1: positive message to the people of Iran, Gaza, Ukraine and Israel.
- 10:40Speaker 1: The musicians You've got music inside of you. Don't turn
- 10:43Speaker 1: off your inner music. Let your music be a speaking
- 10:46Speaker 1: voice for the people that need it most.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, it's it's it's a it's a client. I mean,
- 11:00Speaker 3: it's it's definitely you know, it's it's showing people.
- 11:07Speaker 2: What's happening.
- 11:08Speaker 3: I mean, we see it every single day. I mean,
- 11:10Speaker 3: social media is engulfed with what's going on every single day.
- 11:15Speaker 3: And that's that was one of my biggest influences in
- 11:18Speaker 3: the road, is the things that I've seen and trying
- 11:22Speaker 3: to connect with all the people that our refugees are
- 11:25Speaker 3: not and that this this this battle or these wars
- 11:29Speaker 3: that are occurring, and the people that are turning.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Into refugees, it's not going to end.
- 11:33Speaker 3: When the end, when the war ends, that's actually probably
- 11:36Speaker 3: when the beginning the work begins. For like the Foundation
- 11:40Speaker 3: saved the children, they're they're going to be working at
- 11:42Speaker 3: this for a whiles. And with the refugee centers. You know,
- 11:45Speaker 3: when I was a refugee, when I just came to
- 11:47Speaker 3: the States in ninety you know, ninety eight, we were
- 11:50Speaker 3: in the refugee center, and then we were waiting to
- 11:53Speaker 3: get public housing. And that's where we got into the projects.
- 11:55Speaker 3: And when I when I ride into my into our apartment,
- 12:00Speaker 3: and we had a whole bunch of foundations that have
- 12:02Speaker 3: provided us a living arrangements there. For I was food
- 12:04Speaker 3: that provided us, I had, you know, a whole bunch
- 12:07Speaker 3: of toys in my room, and I was I had
- 12:10Speaker 3: everything that we needed to start a life in the States.
- 12:14Speaker 3: And and then you know, I also the way I
- 12:17Speaker 3: learned the English language. This is a funny story. I
- 12:21Speaker 3: love sharing it because it's it's close to my heart.
- 12:24Speaker 3: But when I arrived into my room, there was a
- 12:28Speaker 3: CD player on uh on my on my bed, and
- 12:31Speaker 3: inside that CD player was actually the Slim Shady LP
- 12:36Speaker 3: and then the uh yeah it was it was like
- 12:40Speaker 3: inside of that CD player. So I remember that we
- 12:44Speaker 3: were we were given like ABC book and like learning
- 12:47Speaker 3: how you know, can't prepare for first grade because I
- 12:50Speaker 3: was getting into first grade.
- 12:52Speaker 2: I did kindergarten in Germany, and then I came to
- 12:54Speaker 2: the States and.
- 12:55Speaker 3: I was there during the summer, and instead of watching
- 12:58Speaker 3: the ABC book or watching the videos and things like
- 13:02Speaker 3: that every day, I was listening to eminem and everything
- 13:06Speaker 3: a day. As a six year old, I also listening
- 13:09Speaker 3: to that, And I mean might not be the best
- 13:11Speaker 3: music to listen to, but I mean it was like
- 13:13Speaker 3: it was like a little teaching me the language. So like,
- 13:16Speaker 3: you know, by the time I first first grade started,
- 13:19Speaker 3: I was very fluent. Like I was doing really well
- 13:22Speaker 3: in grade school, and you know, the teachers used to
- 13:25Speaker 3: applaud me and and I used to just repeat lyrics
- 13:28Speaker 3: all the time. And this was something that I just.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Constantly did and you know, and it kind of stuck
- 13:34Speaker 2: with me.
- 13:34Speaker 1: So yeah, is that the reason why when people hear
- 13:40Speaker 1: your music they say that it's more than just playing
- 13:43Speaker 1: your music, it's actually breathing with your music, that we're
- 13:47Speaker 1: able to really put down our guard and just experience
- 13:51Speaker 1: your sounds.
- 13:56Speaker 3: Yeah, people have you know, people have said things like,
- 14:00Speaker 3: you know, you are like giving us almost like a
- 14:05Speaker 3: movie soundtrack in a way. Yes, I'm not the greatest
- 14:12Speaker 3: for music theory, but I you know, I I I
- 14:16Speaker 3: try learning things when it comes to developing, like soundscapes
- 14:22Speaker 3: and sound design, so you know, I I work on
- 14:26Speaker 3: a lot. When it comes to just the sound itself,
- 14:32Speaker 3: from the very from the from the notes that I
- 14:36Speaker 3: that I create, I will just take a few different
- 14:39Speaker 3: elements and I will try connectimize it's it's feelings.
- 14:44Speaker 2: So like like boy Within.
- 14:46Speaker 3: I would go, you know, throughout the whole scale until
- 14:48Speaker 3: I found found the right note that that that.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Felt what I felt like.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Literally note for note, I would go and try to
- 14:55Speaker 3: create the melody that I'm I'm feeling with the base
- 15:00Speaker 3: being uh that kind of encompasses a lot of my music.
- 15:04Speaker 3: You're gonna hear is it's very It's a roaring respace
- 15:08Speaker 3: and I love that sound. And you're gonna hear the
- 15:13Speaker 3: consistency throughout this whole entire project. It's gonna have this
- 15:18Speaker 3: feeling Jim packed into like six songs.
- 15:23Speaker 1: You know you're yeah, yeah, because we are in this
- 15:26Speaker 1: age right now where the average listener, even if they're
- 15:29Speaker 1: going to Spotify or even heart iHeartRadio, they want the
- 15:32Speaker 1: full concept. They want the full album. And when you've
- 15:36Speaker 1: chucked war within inside this, oh my god. I mean
- 15:40Speaker 1: this to me is a love song. I feel that rhythm,
- 15:43Speaker 1: the rapping inside the song. There there's so much emotion
- 15:47Speaker 1: and that you keep us glued to what is happening creatively.
- 15:50Speaker 1: And you, being the producer, I mean you're you're the
- 15:52Speaker 1: person it starts with you.
- 15:57Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 15:58Speaker 2: It started to mean I have no idea how I
- 16:00Speaker 2: got here, to be honest.
- 16:01Speaker 3: And just kept you know, I've traveled. I've traveled to
- 16:06Speaker 3: Germany to collaborate with zombie Us from Flatpler's Zombies. Uh.
- 16:11Speaker 3: He's the one that comes at the end of war
- 16:13Speaker 3: would in and that was also uh, you know, he's
- 16:16Speaker 3: he's my myne uh generation I grew up on his
- 16:20Speaker 3: music were pretty much the same age. And I literally
- 16:23Speaker 3: traveled to Berlin, met him and you know Berlin, and
- 16:27Speaker 3: went to the studio and that was absolutely magical. That
- 16:30Speaker 3: was the first time I got to actually witness and
- 16:33Speaker 3: artists in the studio work. And you know when I
- 16:36Speaker 3: played him war woodin and you know, I loved the
- 16:39Speaker 3: facial expression and I loved.
- 16:41Speaker 2: His because I had like I had a concept.
- 16:44Speaker 3: I had an idea and and immediately he knew what
- 16:48Speaker 3: needed to come next after like what they did, uh,
- 16:52Speaker 3: because he took it to the next level. Like his
- 16:54Speaker 3: his verse was my favorite, uh because he just elaborated
- 17:00Speaker 3: the old idea and yeah, that It's incredible how things
- 17:06Speaker 3: were just, uh just coming together.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Wow.
- 17:11Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about this
- 17:14Speaker 1: project and everything you're doing, because you're obviously that person
- 17:18Speaker 1: that helps open up the process for a lot of
- 17:20Speaker 1: creative minds.
- 17:24Speaker 3: You could visit me on my website on my social
- 17:27Speaker 3: media as. My website is www.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Dot hdhi senprod dot com. My social media is hz
- 17:39Speaker 2: prod so h z p r o D.
- 17:43Speaker 3: Underscore and TikTok same thing, hz prod Underscore. But if
- 17:52Speaker 3: you want to really reach out to me. Reach out
- 17:54Speaker 3: to me through a d M outstite or you can
- 17:57Speaker 3: email me on my website. I love it.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Are you gonna? You know, I've met a lot of
- 18:02Speaker 1: different acts that have come out of Ukraine that are
- 18:04Speaker 1: touring the country because what they're trying to do is
- 18:06Speaker 1: promote peace. Will you be touring the country as well
- 18:09Speaker 1: to help bring the positive message forward?
- 18:13Speaker 3: You know that that would be a great opportunity that
- 18:16Speaker 3: I'm trying to see if that will be. I don't know,
- 18:19Speaker 3: also be the States, but it looks like there may
- 18:21Speaker 3: be a connectional meaning in Africa, just because the artists
- 18:25Speaker 3: that actually a lot of the artists that I'm working
- 18:27Speaker 3: with are African based, and there might be something that
- 18:33Speaker 3: I'm going to maybe look to like a record, like
- 18:40Speaker 3: a like a fundraiser type of events.
- 18:42Speaker 2: Yes, yes, connected to that too.
- 18:45Speaker 3: I don't know how any of that works. I have
- 18:47Speaker 3: never ran the show, I've never done anything like this before.
- 18:51Speaker 3: But with what I have and the artists that I
- 18:54Speaker 3: may have available at the time, I think I could
- 18:56Speaker 3: possibly get that together so to fund raiser at the
- 19:00Speaker 3: same time we're playing music.
- 19:02Speaker 2: I would love for an event like that to be possible.
- 19:07Speaker 1: You know, Wow, dude, You're gonna have to come back
- 19:09Speaker 1: to this show and share even more as you continue
- 19:12Speaker 1: to grow this project, because this is not just a
- 19:14Speaker 1: one day thing. I want to I want your entire
- 19:16Speaker 1: journey to be shared.
- 19:19Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
- 19:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm learning, I'm learning this is, this is I've
- 19:23Speaker 3: been thrown into the wolves when I learned when I
- 19:25Speaker 3: got that Ward wouldin back, you know from the shoot game.
- 19:30Speaker 3: They they really threw me in a circle with what
- 19:35Speaker 3: I'm going to do. And as I was progressing and
- 19:38Speaker 3: as I started giving these connections and these artists wanting
- 19:41Speaker 3: to collaborate and help me push the message forward, you know, yeah,
- 19:46Speaker 3: I'd be more than happy to come back on the
- 19:47Speaker 3: show and talk about and you know, there's a lot
- 19:51Speaker 3: of things about I'm still working on, like more visuals
- 19:53Speaker 3: like I want, uh, you know, actual videos for these
- 19:57Speaker 3: these songs, because every song like and I think that's
- 20:00Speaker 3: where when you were talking about like concepts and music
- 20:03Speaker 3: in general, where we're kind of like losing that aspect
- 20:06Speaker 3: of music, at least in the hip hop world, where
- 20:09Speaker 3: every four years we kind of get a trend of
- 20:11Speaker 3: music that kind of forms and people kind of want
- 20:15Speaker 3: to hop on this trend and TikTok that's kind of
- 20:17Speaker 3: taken over. And we have seen just music that trends
- 20:20Speaker 3: and goes away and fades and never like sticks. And
- 20:23Speaker 3: I think it's because people don't have I don't know,
- 20:27Speaker 3: they don't give us concepts. They don't maybe you know,
- 20:34Speaker 3: you know, and maybe in a way what I'm doing,
- 20:36Speaker 3: what I'm trying to really just spread a message. But
- 20:39Speaker 3: in general, I guess what we've see in the music
- 20:42Speaker 3: world is that music is like change. And I think
- 20:45Speaker 3: it's also evolving a lot with AI and.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Things like that.
- 20:49Speaker 3: So there's a lot of changes occurring in the music industry,
- 20:54Speaker 3: but I think we're missing some of the human elements
- 20:58Speaker 3: right now.
- 20:59Speaker 2: And I love concept albums.
- 21:02Speaker 3: I love listening to an album and you know, it's
- 21:05Speaker 3: like listening to whether it's the artist's life story, whatever
- 21:10Speaker 3: the case is, the you know, or even the production wise,
- 21:14Speaker 3: like if just everything is like cohesive and you can
- 21:18Speaker 3: you can listen to a project from from the start
- 21:21Speaker 3: to the end without skipping anything like it, like I
- 21:23Speaker 3: feel like you're listening to a whole movie. That's what
- 21:26Speaker 3: I love doing, and I've done my entire life and
- 21:29Speaker 3: this is.
- 21:29Speaker 2: What war porn is.
- 21:31Speaker 3: It's it's it's a little missile and it's being shot out.
- 21:36Speaker 1: I I just love where your heart is. Well until
- 21:38Speaker 1: next time, please be brilliant today and continue just growing
- 21:43Speaker 1: with your music.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
- 21:48Speaker 1: You bet you'd be brilliant today