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NFL considering replacement referees for 2026 season? NCAA Tournament Best Bets, NFL Offseason Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: little football because replacement refs are they back? The Miami
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  Speaker 1: Dolphins said we're done trading star players, and I was
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  Speaker 1: watching the WBC game and thinking, why are some guys
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  Speaker 1: clutch Bryce Harper and other guys not Aaron judge in
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  Speaker 1: because we're up there. If not, let's talk them all.
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  Speaker 1: But I did want to start because there's a lingering
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  Speaker 1: story out there. Schefter reported on it. Florio was writing
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  Speaker 1: about it that the NFL, who is always it feels
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  Speaker 1: like in some sort of negotiations with the referees. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: these dudes are principles, they're lawyers, they got side plumbing businesses.
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  Speaker 1: All they want is to be a full time employee.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't want to do it. They just don't
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  Speaker 1: can't find the money, I guess. And we've been down
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  Speaker 1: this road before, and it was called twenty twelve. Now
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of things things have changed since then,
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  Speaker 1: and the NFL specifically if they are going to get
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  Speaker 1: and we got a long way to go till the season.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not acting like I feel confident they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like high school and random college referees Monday Night
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  Speaker 1: Football and Ravens Bill's games. Like I'm not gonna go
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  Speaker 1: there yet, but like the NFL can be very cutthroat
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  Speaker 1: in these situations, and they are going to try to
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  Speaker 1: screw the referees every chance they get, and you could
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  Speaker 1: argue the referees aren't that good. To begin with, one
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  Speaker 1: thing we learned and listen big, an official is very difficult.
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  Speaker 1: We've all been on the bad side, whether as a gambler,
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  Speaker 1: whether as a fan of a bad call. It comes
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  Speaker 1: with the territory. But it does feel like the officiating
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  Speaker 1: has been very hit or missed over the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of years. Here's what I do know after experiencing that,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm old enough to remember, is now that you're
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  Speaker 1: balls deep with the gambling community. Like in twenty twelve,
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  Speaker 1: obviously people gambled on football, but it's nowhere near what
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  Speaker 1: it is now, especially because the league is in business
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  Speaker 1: with everybody. So once you get into business with everybody,
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  Speaker 1: you have to do everything possible to keep things above board.
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  Speaker 1: Like that is a huge element. The world we live
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  Speaker 1: in in twenty twenty twelve, to compare to now, is
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  Speaker 1: like a completely different universe. I can't even relate to
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  Speaker 1: the times in twenty twelve. You know that viral video, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: What were you like in the nineties? Do you know
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  Speaker 1: how long ago the nineties feel right now? I mean, hell,
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  Speaker 1: do you now far away? Twenty eighteen fields right now,
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  Speaker 1: So the twenty twelve the NFL, which is obviously exploded
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  Speaker 1: since then it was very it was popular, then, it
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  Speaker 1: was rolling. It is nowhere near the powerhouse that it
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  Speaker 1: is now and the eyeballs that are on it, the
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  Speaker 1: partners that are involved. This is one of those situations
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  Speaker 1: where you simply have to get it fixed because you
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  Speaker 1: cannot have people out there having the bright lights on
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  Speaker 1: them and not coming through because we already have that
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  Speaker 1: happening now. And these guys are used to calling these
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  Speaker 1: games like they are used to being on the field
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  Speaker 1: with NFL players in NFL coaches, and if you start
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  Speaker 1: funneling up MAC guys or high school guys, it could
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  Speaker 1: be overwhelming and we could get a situation ten times
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  Speaker 1: worse than we had last year because the amount of
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  Speaker 1: gambling and the aspect of that that comes into the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not, it's here and it's
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  Speaker 1: not going away. So when I look at the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: I think this referee situation will be taken care of
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  Speaker 1: by the time we get there, and I think these
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  Speaker 1: are somewhat of threats to whatever the negotiation is try
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  Speaker 1: to get what they want but I do know this,
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, you cannot do what you did
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. It's not only not acceptable, it's something
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  Speaker 1: that you would have to avoid, and I think there
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  Speaker 1: would be direct pressure by everyone in business with them,
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  Speaker 1: including the gambling companies, and rightfully so like, we can't
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  Speaker 1: tolerate this. This is not one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: will be okay. So I would expect something to get done.
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  Speaker 1: And let's face it, we all bitch and moan about
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  Speaker 1: the officiating. I'm as guilty as anyone, but I've lived
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  Speaker 1: long enough to see what it looks like on the
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  Speaker 1: other side. It can be hard. And listen, I my
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  Speaker 1: I think my high school senior year. I me and
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  Speaker 1: my buddy Wan, who great football baseball player for US
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  Speaker 1: at Davis High School. He got me into refing on
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  Speaker 1: the side or umpiring little league games. And this was
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  Speaker 1: like triple A. You know, this was like fifth and
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  Speaker 1: sixth graders and you're behind the dish, you're making I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, thirty dollars a game, getting a free hot
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  Speaker 1: dog and a slurpee, and I remember blowing some calls.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's not easy. It's like I do respect, how difficult,
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  Speaker 1: the speed of the game and how hard it is, right,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you just kind of freeze. It's human nature.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of question yourself and then you make the
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  Speaker 1: wrong call. And I've always had an issue in basketball
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  Speaker 1: with technical fouls and people, you know, getting teed up
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  Speaker 1: for saying the F word. It's like, guys, this isn't
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  Speaker 1: the little league, This isn't this isn't We're not teaching life
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  Speaker 1: lessons here. This is billion dollar business. Is all about
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  Speaker 1: winning and losing. Just stay out of the fucking way.
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  Speaker 1: So in the NFL is not as bad about that
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  Speaker 1: of screaming back and forth. It's just bad about like
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  Speaker 1: was that a penalty? Was that not a penalty? And
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  Speaker 1: we never quite know the answer, but at least we
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  Speaker 1: know these guys are comfortable doing NFL games. I could
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  Speaker 1: out of high school referees on the field. The other
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  Speaker 1: thing that's pretty interesting there have been some proposals that
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  Speaker 1: have been thrown out for this owner's meetings in a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and one rule change, of course, the
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Paul D. Podesta left over. I tried to
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  Speaker 1: read this article on Paul deep Pedesta today on ESPN
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  Speaker 1: dot com by Buster only I made it like a
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  Speaker 1: quarter of the way through. I'm like, I don't even care.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stand this guy, Like I'm not reading this
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  Speaker 1: article in what he thinks he's gonna do with the
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  Speaker 1: Colorado Rock He's like, what a scam artist? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm a Cleveland Brown fan, it's like, what the
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  Speaker 1: hell did we just experience for the last decade? And
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  Speaker 1: it's that guy who got to live in San Diego
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  Speaker 1: the whole time, work remotely and dictate a lot of
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  Speaker 1: your terms, Like that had to suck. And now he's
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  Speaker 1: running one of the worst baseball teams in the league
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  Speaker 1: in a division with the Dodgers, the Padres, the Dbacks
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  Speaker 1: actually are pretty good, and you know, the Giants have
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  Speaker 1: way more money than Colorado if they ever choose to
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  Speaker 1: spend it. But that's a conversation for a different day.
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  Speaker 1: The rule change is right now. If I want to
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  Speaker 1: trade for Joe Burrow, it's like, let's say, obviously, I
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  Speaker 1: actually think the Bengals are kind of a pretty live
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  Speaker 1: under the raider dog to be a really good team
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  Speaker 1: this year. If their defense kind of comes together, assuming
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  Speaker 1: Joe play seventeen games like they'd probably be my pick
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  Speaker 1: right now to win that division. But we can get
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  Speaker 1: into that later in the offseason. But when I look
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  Speaker 1: at so if I wanted, let's just say the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: have a disaster and Joe Burrows on the block, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I can offer three years of picks, three first rounders,
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  Speaker 1: three second rounders, three whatever. I can't go past that.
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  Speaker 1: Right in basketball, you can offer like two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: thirty five first round picks. Right, you can go way
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  Speaker 1: far in advance. And that's been a thing with the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Is they cap it, which I think if I'm an owner,
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  Speaker 1: I like, like, even if you could talk me into
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  Speaker 1: a trade, like, you just never know this sports two
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  Speaker 1: fickle injuries. You could go one year being a playoff
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  Speaker 1: team next year. I mean the Super Bowls. The Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: went to five Super Bowls in six years, and they're
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  Speaker 1: drafting in the top ten. So the year Seattle traded
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson to Denver, they ended up with like the
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  Speaker 1: fifth pick. You never know year to year, let alone
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  Speaker 1: four years out. So I would imagine a lot of
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  Speaker 1: owners vote against this. I get why Andrew Berry, this
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  Speaker 1: analytical nerd, is into this. He would love to make
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  Speaker 1: some sort of trades like that, and I do think
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  Speaker 1: the aggressive teams would be very interested. I would be
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  Speaker 1: all for this passing because I am for anything that
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  Speaker 1: creates more action, that creates more transaction, that creates more
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  Speaker 1: interesting conversations when trades are made, whether that be draft
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  Speaker 1: day trades, player trades, four picks whatever. My guess is though,
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  Speaker 1: that will get voted down, so I listen. I've been
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  Speaker 1: hard on the Browns, talk a lot of shit. I
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  Speaker 1: like them throwing this out there, though I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it will come through. The other big story today was
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: chefter put out, and I maybe I didn't quite realize this.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fantasy football player, and oh I
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: don't play at all. I used to play a little daily,
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: but I'm not in leagues. And the Dolphins were such
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: a joke last year. I wasn't super dialed into them,
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: definitely the second half of the season. But divide ah
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Chan who I think that's also Travis Etn's last name,
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Travis A. Chan, but we've all been calling them Etn.
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  Speaker 1: That's what he said at the press conference, was like
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: WHOA didn't see that one coming. I didn't quite realize
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  Speaker 1: how good this guy is and how elite is in
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  Speaker 1: the passing game, and right now, football at the running
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: back position is a lot less. Like Adrian Peterson right now,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: he's an outlier and all time great running back. Didn't pass, block,
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  Speaker 1: didn't catch, but he was so good between the tackles
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  Speaker 1: and just handing or pitching him the ball, it didn't matter.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: The league is really looking for Bejhon Robinson, Christian McCaffrey,
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Alvin Kamaras, Jamar Gibbs, versatile players. Jeremiah Love can really
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  Speaker 1: catch the ball, basically adds as another wide receiver in
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  Speaker 1: the passing game. Well. Devon h Chan in three years
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  Speaker 1: has one hundred and seventy two catches and thirteen touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: in the passing game. On the ground, he's accounted for
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  Speaker 1: twenty two touchdowns. So you're talking about a guy that
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: has thirty five touchdowns in three years. I mean, he
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: is an extremely productive player. And what else does he
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  Speaker 1: do well? He plays in the system that the majority
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: of teams run. And I was texting around, like, you
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  Speaker 1: know his contract. He makes nothing this year. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's on the books for like one point five million
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  Speaker 1: dollars salary cap and like one point two million dollars
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  Speaker 1: in cash. Now, maybe that goes up because there are
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  Speaker 1: some like production bonuses when guys aren't you know, first
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  Speaker 1: or second round picks, and you produce, you get a raise.
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  Speaker 1: But still he's not making Kenneth Walker's making fourteen million
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year. The Chiefs just guaranteed him twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: million dollars. So you can get a guy who has
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  Speaker 1: produced thirty five touchdowns in three years fourteen, it's not
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  Speaker 1: that good with two at quarterback and this year a
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: lot of like Quinn yours at quarterback. It's like, damn
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  Speaker 1: explosive player can run inside, you can the outside zone,
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  Speaker 1: obviously throw the ball. So I was like, I think
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  Speaker 1: they can get a second round pick. I did a
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: little digging. A couple of people said, I wouldn't shock
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: me if the equivalent of the value would be like
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: a first round pick. And I started thinking, like, if
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: you're Seattle, you just lose Kenneth Walker. Would you trade
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  Speaker 1: the thirty second pick for Devon a Chan for a
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  Speaker 1: year of him really cheap and then you give the
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: contract the Chiefs gave him after this year, I think
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: you probably would would a lot of teams right after them.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, thirty six, whatever that
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  Speaker 1: group is be interested in his services. Would yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 1: say the Kanca Chiefs, but they signed Kenneth Walker. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think his value is much higher. Here's the problem,
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: and this is why I think Miami says we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna trade him, because one, they do need some players
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: on the offense, and you bring in Bobby Slowick, like
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: to mke McDaniel, you're gonna have a run heavy offense
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  Speaker 1: with Malik Willis. And two he's cheap and productive. Like
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: part of the reason they got rid of Jalen Waddle
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: is like, why do we need a guy making thirty
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: million dollars a year who was probably at most gonna
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: catch eighty balls this year when we're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: any good. His value can get us a first round pick,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: but let's just say you could get pick twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: or thirty two or whatever. If you're Miami, you don't
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  Speaker 1: need three first round picks this year. There are five
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: teams with multiple first round picks. Obviously, the Dolphins are one,
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, the uh who are the teams the Jets,
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Browns. Right, So you have these teams
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  Speaker 1: with multiple first round picks. It's not viewed as a
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  Speaker 1: great draft, and I think you keep him in your
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: back pocket. Best case scenario, you build up the team
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  Speaker 1: this year and you just extend the guy next year
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: because running backs are incredible value. Part of the problem
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: with Waddle is you go, we're not gonna be that
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  Speaker 1: good and even next year, as we're turning the corner,
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: he's gonna need a contract extension. Well, he's already got
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: He already makes a lot of money. Usually guys who
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: are good players don't take pay cuts. He's going to
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: need a pay raise and an extension. So you go,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: we're out of that business. This is the guy that go, Yeah,
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: if we like this guy, he's a high character guy,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: which I've never heard a bad thing about him, We
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  Speaker 1: have no problem extending him at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: With Malik Will some of our young guys as we
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: start to trying and turn the corner in twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty eight, but I think the calls came
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  Speaker 1: in fast and furious on devon a chan, which I
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: guess I'm not as dialed in on Miami Dolphin football,
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: but texting around, I think the interest was really really high.
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  Speaker 1: So I think when they put out like we're not
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: trading them, I think it's because they're getting a ton
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: of calls and they don't want to deal with it.
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  Speaker 1: Like they're just not interested in getting rid of them
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: because they don't need the extra first round pick. They
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: already got multiple and they just want them as a
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: player who doesn't want cheap and productive. It's like, why
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: do companies love interns because I don't have to pay
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: health insurance. I pay you nothing. You do a bunch
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: of work that I don't want to do. Right. Shit,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: I've sat in those seats before. It sucks. I mean
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: it's cool because you get your foot in the door
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of value to it as
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: your life goes on, because those getting inside those doors
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: is more valuable than whatever they're paying you. And that's
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: a different conversation. If AI takes away all those jobs,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: that sucks. That's gonna be hard in all these different businesses.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: But again, conversation for a different day. I just think
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Miami is doing the right thing by keeping him. And
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I underestimated. I mean, I knew he was a good
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: explosive player. I didn't realize quite how productive he'd been.
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  Speaker 1: thinking is uh watching the WBC, I was thinking of
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: if baseball could have their games. I mean that game
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: felt like an NFL playoff game, Venezuela versus America, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: so did Italy verse Japan, so did I guess it
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: was Italy vers Venezuela. So did America versus the DRS.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: These games have felt great, they have felt like playoff
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: level games, and some of the players said it felt
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: bigger than the World Series. Derek Jeter was offended, which
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, his career is defined on
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: winning all the World Series and coming through and it's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: not like he was some big WBC guy. But I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: do understand when you're in it, you feel like, God,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: this is as big as anything we did. I think
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you'd get a lot of players saying, like the Ryder
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Cup feels bigger than like the Majors, and the Majors
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: are obviously more important to your career than winning the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, but when you're there, and I was just
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: after one in New York, it feels like, uh, I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: don't know, like an SEC football game. It means insane.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But one thing that has always interested me because when
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I got into radio, and we talked about this when
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I was in scouting too, because one of the reasons
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Marty morning Wig liked Nick Foles. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was with the Eagles when we drafted him. He played
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on a shitty Arizona team. Shitty Arizona team, but like
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: when the games were close, he was really good in
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: those games, and like he played really well in second halfs.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: He was really good down the stretch in a lot
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of those games and made a lot of big time
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: throws in the games that they were competitive in. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you value right, like you could make a great throw
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: in the first quarter, but what are you doing in
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when you're down four points on the road,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Like how do you react? That's how you really evaluate guys. Right.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And Bryce Harper, who I remember going to a Giants
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: playoff game back when he was with the Nationals as
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a really young player, just hit one of the Clutch's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: longest home runs I'd ever seen in a game. He
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was when I think Bryce Harper and I know he
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: just had a bad playoffs for the Phillies. He has
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: had a ton of big moments clutch hits in regular
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: season in playoff games, like he is a bright lights
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: player and for the American guys, if you needed a
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: big hit, it does feel like he would be near
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the top of the list, if not one. And we've
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: seen a lot of guys over the course of the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: last twenty five years in baseball, because a lot of
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the Paul Deep desk to say, there's no such thing
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: as clutch. There's no such thing as a pressure or
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: feeling nerves in the batter's box. It's no different than
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: your second ab in a June game as one in October.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: And that's completely bullshit. And I've seen it forever. With
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: all Billy Bean's good teams, they always kind of shit
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the bed in the playoffs. He's like, well, it just
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: my shit doesn't work in the playoffs. It's like, well,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: your guy's just kind of got tight, didn't come through.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And there are certain guys like Big Poppy came up,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: it felt like he came through. Manny Ramirez came up
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and felt like he came through. Derek Jeter came up
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and felt like he came through. And in baseball, you're
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: only gonna succeed. You're a Hall of Famer if you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: get three you know, ten abs, you get three hits.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: So like watching Bryce Harper, you just you kind of
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: felt it when he came up I didn't know he
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was gonna hit an absolute bomb, but it's like something
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: he's gonna hit one hard here, and he did and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it went out of the park, and Aaron Judge looked
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: completely overwhelmed the whole game. And let's face it, one
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of the knocks on him is like, doesn't do that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: well in big spots. There's no disputed it is one
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of the greatest regular season players I've ever seen. He's
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: rattling off MVPs or putting up his stats last night,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and I love Aeron Judge, Freslee State guy, fucking badass.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. But like some guys kind of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: struggle in the clutch for whatever reason, and you can
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: be back, well, it's just baseball. What happens in all sports.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Some guys just crumble under the pressure. And one theory
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I've had for a long time, I do think a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: lot of it is built when you're young, When you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: have success in early on in your career, you become
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: much more comfortable in that moment. When Bryce Harper got
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: up in that spot, He's been in a million big
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: spots and a lot of them he's come through, so
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: he's very confident when he steps up right, and you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: can go through the list of Derek Jeter successful immediately
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: when he came up to the Yankees, Tom Brady super
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Bowl year one starter, Tiger Woods comes on the PGA tour,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: starts kicking everyone's ass. Well, he had just won three
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: straight US Amateurs and the last one, which I think
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was a tep sawgrass. He was down big and came
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: storming back as one of his iconic fist pumps when
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: he was a super skinny kid. So it's like, you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: get to these moments. Your confidence is built through experience.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes people ask, like middlelof how do you just talk
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: into a mic? I've been doing it for a long
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: time now, this is my first rodeo. If this was
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: episode two, I'd probably fucking have no clue what to do.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I might make it ten minutes. But the longer you
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: do something, the more you're successful, the more that gets
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you know, drilled into you that you can't do it
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and do a good job, whether that's an A B
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in a big spot, whether that's a podcast, or whether
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that's making a sale. The more confident you are walking
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: into the most important spots in whatever you do. And
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I think that goes Patrick Mahomes is gonna go down
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: like so far his career. Besides, like Brady or Montana's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: kind of unprecedented, well, he immediately had success. He got
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to the league. The first year as a starter, he
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: won the and honestly they beat the Patriots, say they
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: don't have an awful defense. By the next year they
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: have a comeback win against the forty nine Ers, a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: bunch of comeback wins. You could also argue his first
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl win against the Niners when they're down late
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: with like five or six minutes ago. They had just
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: been down the previous two games the Houston Texans and
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. Remember they were down big in both
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: those games that came storming back. So his confidence in
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that moment, it literally just happened to him over the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: course of the last month. I don't think you just
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: get in these spots and start going like I can
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: do it when you've never done it. When Scotti Scheffler
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: or Rory McElroy is coming down the back nine with
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the lead or chasing the lead, they're much more comfortable
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: because they've done it many times than a guy that's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: never won. On the PGA tour, it's no different in football.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Then the longer it goes, like Josh Allen's been really
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: good in the playoffs. Obviously, he wasn't that great for
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: his standards in the Denver game and missed an enormous
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: pass at the end of the regulation that would have
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: probably won them the game. Now turn he was injured
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But the longer it goes, and I would
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: throw Lamar in there as well, who has not been
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: good in the playoffs till the second half of the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Bills games when he actually played really well. But a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: lot like Peyton Manning. The longer it goes, you can't
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: win the big one. You can't win the big one.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Once you become a pro slash superstar. It kind of
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: grows like at this point in time, Aaron Judge, he
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: could hit fifty eight home runs, one hundred and fifty
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: RBIs bat four hundred. It's like, Okay, he's fucking awesome
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in the regular season, what are you gonna do in
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the postseason? I saw when I was a kid with
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Barry Bonds, Alex Rodriguez, and it happens in football too.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I love Peyton Manning as a kid, and you went
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in up until that game where he comes storming back
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: against the Patriots in the AFC Championship game. The knock
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: on him was couldn't win the Big One? Why because
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: he had never won the fucking Big One. Couldn't win
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it in Florida or it couldn't beat Florida in college.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: And then he just kept getting beat in the playoffs
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: with these great regular season teams. And then once he
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: got over the pump, he kind of never looked back,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: won another Super Bowl, went back to two others, like
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: had a lot of success, but like when you look
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: at Patrick Mahomes, he doesn't really have to deal with that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got to knock off the Super Bowl early
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: in his career, so when he would lose playoff games
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and some of them were not his fault, he'd be like, well,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it's not his fault. Well, I know this guy's won.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I've seen him do it, so you could never say anything.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Justin Herbert. I think the Charge
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: are gonna be really good this year. Why they have
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. They already have a good team. They're just
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: they're a well run operation. They're gonna be in the playoffs.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: But for like I'm talking about Josh and Lamar. It's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: gonna be extremely loud on Justin Herbert because he's not
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be judged on making sweet plays in the regular season.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I've seen him do it for years. He is easily
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: one of the most talented players of the Internet era.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I mean six or five huge arm, can run, high character.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Teammates love him, like checks all the boxes. Plays great
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in the regular season. It's proven he can play, hurt tough, SOB,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, can you win playoff games? Because that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you're at this point, like that's all you're gonna be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: judged on. Now, you know that's it. You know you've
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: already got the big contracts or you're not trying to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: like just stat pad here, it's just can you win
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: a January game? Fair? Not? You haven't even got close,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and you've been atrocious in most of them. So I think,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and that's it's really hard to you know, kind of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: that momentum starts growing and growing and growing. It's hard
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to slow it down, it really is. And once you
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: get over the hump, I think it really frees you. Right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: We've seen it with coaches when I was a kid.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Roy Williams forever at Kansas, gets to North Carolina, gets
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: one and then wins a bunch. Right, once you get
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: over that hump, it was easy Villanova. When I lived
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: in Philly, it felt like they underachieved in the tournament.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: They would get ko They'd always be a top seed,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: they'd be a top one or two seed, they'd be
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: heavily favored, and they get bounced in the first weekend.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, I just don't thing, and then all of
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: a sudden, he just he won back and back. You know.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, we look at Jay Wright, like remember
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: when he won multiple national championships. So like, if judge
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: like the yanggs gonna be in the playoffs, He's just
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be judged simply moving forward like how he does
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: in these big spots. And baseball's tough, right, you only
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: get a couple of AB's obviously in the playoffs or
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: these big spots are facing the best pitchers. But if
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you don't come through like you do, get judged a
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: little more harshly. I'll never forget. For Like Steph Curry's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a great example. A couple of years in once he
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: fixed the ankles, you just thought he was always gonna
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: come through. It doesn't mean he always came through, but
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in these big spots, it's like down ten, Steph's gonna
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: pull some shit out of his ass, and countless times,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: over and over and over he came through. You know
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: why because in his mind he'd been doing that since Davidson.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: He'd been doing that in tournament games against teams with
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: way more firepower and figuring out a way to win.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And this is the question when it comes to quarterbacks, right, Like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: if you play at a great university with a stacked
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: team that's not the NFL. That was the thing with
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you a Jim McCarthy, his team couldn't have been any better.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Cowrot thought it was the best Michigan team of all time.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: From a talent standpoint, definitely from a coaching standpoint. They
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: have two NFL head coaches. One of them's a big
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: time guy and Jesse Mincher is very highly thought of.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's like you had two NFL coaches
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: on the staff, one guy kind of operating more of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the offense, one guy leading the defense. You had NFL
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: players everywhere, Like that's not normal. So it's like, yeah,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you get confidence from winning, but like what are you doing? Meanwhile,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry's carrying Davidson against Kansas was like they have
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: no business winning the game. They're probably a double digit favored.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, we'll figure out a way because of me.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And then that confidence grows to the pros because you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: have done it before. So once you do it once,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you've felt that feeling. And I think we see that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: with athletes all the time. And the one thing with
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: social media, the amount of podcasts, the television shows, it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: only grown in the pressure I think people. And I'm
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: still a huge Peyton Manning guy. Who is He's one
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: of my favorite player of all time. If you're younger,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're in your early twenties and you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: didn't quite live through that, you can't even imagine the conversations.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Herbert kind of gets talked about a little bit.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was viewed as one of the post childs
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of the league. He was viewed as the best regular
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: season quarterback, that that would be a conversation that would
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: lead this show, that would lead television shows, that would
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: lead everything surrounding the NFL over and it be treated
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like the way we talk about the Cowboys or if
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you talk about basketball Lebron and the Lakers, it would
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: be a nauseating conversation because he wasn't winning and it
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: didn't feel like he played that well in some of
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: those games. Right, So I'm fascinated by clutch. I do
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: think it exists, and I do think having confidence from
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: previous experiences when you've had success, even if it's not
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: at the same level. Right, even if you've made a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: sale for twenty grand and now you're doing a deal,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: hopefully for twenty million dollars, you have landed deals, you
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: have gotten, Yes, will do that. There is something in
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you to go, I can do this. If you've never
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: done it before, you go, I don't know. So when
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Bryce Harper hit that home runs like, I feel like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I've seen him hit that home run fifteen times, you know,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: of course he did, and the next guy came up.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: My first feeling was, I don't know if he's gonna
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: strike out again. But I didn't feel like he was
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: gonna get a hit, and what happened didn't get it hit.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: So it's like, I think we kind of know it now.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I've said this before. I think Dak Prescott could win
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl if the Cowboys were good, right, I
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: thought they had a super Bowl winning team. I've seen
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott play well at a really high level in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the regular season and then he gets to the playoffs
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and he kind of crumbles. And back to what we
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: were saying, it's one of those things that, like he
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: gets in a big spot in January, he hasn't gotten
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: over the hump. Like he hasn't won one of those
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: tight games like beating Tampa when he throw five touchdowns
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: and they're terrible doesn't count. Are you able to like
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: get over the hump in a seventeen to fifteen game?
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: And I've seen him in those spots not play well.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: But I do believe he could. But it's what's so
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: fascinating about sports and the best highest paid players is
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: some guys do it and some guys just never do.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Before we dive into the mailbag, I I'm gambling on
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament and I listen. I know last year
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: had four number one seeds. I don't think that's gonna
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: happen every single year, and clearly with nil the top,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, fifteen twenty teams are pretty stacked. I mean,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Kansas is a four seed, and they have a guy
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that up until like two months ago is viewed as
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a lock number one pick by US, a sixth seed,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and they got a guy that's probably gonna go number one. Right,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Obviously Duke has you know, loaded NBA guy Boozer, who's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: a stud who's the one seed. But weird stuff happens
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: in this tournament. We have seen so many times pre
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: nil teams get bounced. Now I saw stat I think
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Big Kat said this that, and this shows the nil
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that all four top four seeds. So the sixteen teams
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that are one through four are all double digit favorites. Now,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: obviously the one and two seeds are always big favorites,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: but sometimes like the four to thirteen is a little closer,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: but maybe nine eight points. They're all big favorites. So
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I think mainly Thursday and Friday could be a little underwhelming,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: which is fine. Once we get to Saturday and Sunday
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: in the sweet sixteen, it could be on like Donkey
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Kong and listen, I'm not the biggest Big East guy anymore.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Times have changed, but I'm though dummy big events. I'm
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: paying attention. I watched Saint John's in Yukon and Patino
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: we talked about it the other day. He's one of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the greatest coaches in the history of the sport, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: his team's clearly pretty good. They just beat the shit
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: out of Yukon. Now it was a home game, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: still I do think that Kansas Saint John's second round matchup,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: whoever wins that game. We talk about confidence and momentum.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: The next game is gonna be against Duke, but the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: momentum that they get and the confidence they get of
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: beating whoever wins that opponent, right Whoever, if if Bill
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Self and Kansas take down Saint John's, they're gonna be
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: feeling pretty good going in that two game, and same
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: thing vice versa with Saint John's. You can get Kansas
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: ten to one just to win the regent, So they'd
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: have to beat Duke and then take care of you know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Michigan State or Yukon or whatever chaos is on the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: other side or the Johnny's nine to one. I also
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: think you could make an argument that whoever won that
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: game could have enough momentum. You got Bill Self, Rick Bettinel,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: these guys have won national titles. Obviously, Kansas has a
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: bunch of NBA guys. I don't know if Saint John's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: quite does, but they're clearly really well coached. They've won
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a ton of games. I threw fifty dollars each on
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: them both sixty to one to just win the national
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: title because I want just a little action and feel
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: pretty good about hedging my bet. Like I didn't want
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to pick one or the other. Whoever wins that game.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them a pretty good chance against Duke.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And the other one is Arkansas, who you can get
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like fifty to one on hard rock bet. You can
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: get them ten to one to win their region. Now,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: like Saint John's and and Kansas, if they take care
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of the first two rounds they're going to they'd probably
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: play wisconsinant potentially in the second round, though Wisconsin go
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: cold from outside. They would get Arizona, who was really,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: really good. There is no disputing anyone that watched college basketball.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: They are fucking juggernaut. Here's the thing about Arizona, they
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: kind of got like a Buffalo Bill's thing going. It's
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: like they just don't really get it done when it
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: really matters the most. Like Arizona, over the course of
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the last fifteen plus years has had a lot of
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: good teams. Google last time they made a Final four
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: pretty sure, it's been like two and a half decades.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It's been a while, and I think there is just
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that we talk about pressure. It is a blue blood
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: basketball school, Arizona cares about basketball. The University of Arizona deep.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: It really matters. They have been doing everything possible. They
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: were doing nil well before nil with Loud Olson, as
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Jerry Tarkanian said, I offered him a car, Lute offered
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: him a van. So it's like they will do whatever
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it takes to get good players, and they have excellent players.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But I do believe there's a pressure when a program
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: just hasn't figured it out for whatever reason. Despite all
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: the success they've had. They just won the hardest league
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: in the country. Arkansas has the Acuf kid who is
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: just phenomenal, And I think there's an element, and this
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: is what makes a tournament cool. Every once in a while,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you get like a Steph Curry moment. You just get
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a guy who is red hot. They just won the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: SEC Conference championship. You can get them ten to one
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to because if they won that game, I think they
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: would be the heavy favorite to win the following game
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and make it to the final four, and they would
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: be a team that I mean, how many straight games
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: that they had won, obviously they won the SEC tournament,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that they would beat Arizona. I think Arkansas is a
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: very very live, just under the radar like Non one
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: or two seed that if their star gets hot now
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: will make you a little nervous. Coach Cal lost a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: lot of games in the tournament that he should have won,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: but that will be a game where he kind of
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: gets to play the underdog. Like most people are not
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: gonna pick Arkansas against Arizona, So I do like dabbling
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: on Kansas and Saint John's whoever wins that game momentum
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: going into the duke game, and I'm just taking Arkansas
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Coach Cal and they're just red hot. Okay, let's do
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of mailbag questions at John Middlecoff at John
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions answered
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: right here on the show. We will start with David
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: question for the back, I just got my head shaved
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: with some of my fraternity bros for charity. Good for
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you guys, A bunch of us shaved our heads to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: help raise money for veterans, these young college kids giving
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: back to America. Appreciate you, guys. I'm leaving for the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: beach level little charity than the little party on Friday,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and gonna be there for spring break. Any suggestions to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: help prevent my head getting sunburned Before I started shaving
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: my head, which I've been doing probably since twenty thirteen fourteen,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: range maybe with a with like a mock three or
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: mock five. The first several years I just took like
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the equivalent of no free ads, but like the Maandscape thing,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and just went as low as it would go. The
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: first time I was bald, at least the first probably
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: six months, I went to the lake in Tahoe with
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: one of my good buddies, Ryan and his girl friend
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: at the time whose now his wife, and a bunch
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: of her friends, and we just got smashed and we
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: were on the boat all day. And if you've had
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: hair your whole life, you don't even think like about
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: putting sunscreen on the top of your head, so you
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: just live life like you had hair. And then probably
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: four or five days later, my entire head peeled off
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and I never made that mistake again. So I think
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: there's two keys, because one, if you have hair, you're
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the top of your scalp is not used to sing, son, right,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Especially if you don't wear a hat, right, it never
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: gets any it just I mean, if you do wear
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a hat, it never gets any exposure. So if you're
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: not gonna wear a hat, which is probably the easiest
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: thing to do, a bucket hat, a cowboy hat, a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: backward hat, whatever is, you gotta put sunscreen like you
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: would on your back, like you would on your neck
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: or your arms. You just put it all over your
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: head because if you do not, your head will peel
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: off and I'll never forget. It was like a week
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: before Fourth of July there was a big Fourth of
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: July party and my head was just peeled off. So
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I had to wear like a hat because I look
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like a like a lizard or something. I mean, it was.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: It was a crazy experience. But this is what we're
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: gonna teach my young son. When you make a mistake
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: not always bad. You learn from it and you never
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: make that mistake again, unless you're just an idiot and
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: you make the same mistakes over and over. Why has
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Ty Simpson talked about going in the first round. Is
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: it just hype and excitement for him? He'll get drafted
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: too high by a bad organization like the Jets, because
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that's just what they do. Haven't we seen this type
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: player get drafted way too high because of one good season.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Simpson was a good quarterback, but it's his only season
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: in college and watching about half of the Alabama games,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: he never looked like a guy to take in the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: first round, especially with the talent pool that lines up
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: this year, but also the projected quarterback depth next year.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: To me, Simpson would be a good third or fourth
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: round pick, potentially a backup. The hype machine's real and
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: this time of year, if you're a GM, if you're
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a scouting director, if you're the front office, you got
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to be very careful about when you listen to these
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: people talk over and over about these prospects. It's one thing,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jeremiah has scouted in the league. He
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: talks to people in the league, so it's all kind
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: of connected. Dan Orlowski, who again I have nothing against Dan.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I kind of like Dan, you know, just he entertains me.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: But he's never scouted in the league and he's going
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: on these rants about how great Ty Simpson is. That's
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: how you get in trouble. But that type momentum, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: then you get a couple more guys that agree with him.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I am not in the business of taking lower ceiling
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: guys in the first round of quarterback. You know, we
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: have examples recently of Kenny Pickett, who was like a
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: five year starter, Mac Jones, who was like a one
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and a half half year starter, like Ty Simpson could
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: be Mac Jones. Well, what is mc jon's. He's a
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: good backup who can win you some games. Mc john's
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: not a starting quarterback. He's you know, he's he'll never
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: be a top twenty five quarterback in the NFL, but
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: in short periods, if he's got the right team, he
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: can win you some games. I'm not into drafting those guys.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Whenever I watched Alabama and I get
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: he was a little dinged up and they couldn't run
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the ball, I could not take him in the first round.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: So I think a lot of teams will not have
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: him in the first round. I'd be a little surprised
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: if he goes in the first round. I mean, last year,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: people saw shador shit. Maybe I was guilty too. It
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: was gonna go in like top five to the Browns.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He went the fifth round. So I think sometimes the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: buzz is a lot different than the way the league
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: internally views guys. Why is Daniel Jones being so heavily criticized.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I know that everyone wants to take a dump on
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: him because of the Giants, but he won a playoff
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: game and was playing really well until the injury. You
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: can say his injury prone, which is true, but he's
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: suffered fewer injuries than guys like Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Herbert,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Lamar Love, Dak His contract also helps the Colts out
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: since it only counts around twenty million against the cap,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: which is nineteenth among NFL quarterbacks in ninety third. Overall,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a smart move, and everyone seems just
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to be bashing the guys you compared him to Joe Burrow, justin, Herbert,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Jordan Love, and Lamar Jackson. I mean, I even Trevor Lawrence. Now,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean Trevor Lawrence has had a couple good seasons.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: He's won a playoff game before I and I would
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: take Trevor Lawrence over Daniel Jones for sure. I just
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: think the criticism comes from Daniel Jones. No one's ever
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: done less, consistently made more money and got to keep starting.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of backups, you know, Chase Daniel
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: is just I would say he's kind of the poster
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: child of the guy that made a ton of money
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: never had to play, which is a great gig if
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: you can get it. But Daniel Jones Zones, he's been
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: franchise tagged multiple times. I think how crazy that is.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: He'd be like, well, one's a transition tag. Okay. Who
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: was paying Daniel Jones thirty seven million dollars? That's what
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I part of it is just basic business. Who was
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: paying Daniel Jones thirty seven million dollars? He has a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: fucking torn achilles? I just I don't see who's paying
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: on that. I really don't. Maybe I'm being too negative.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Mac Jones makes two year, seven million dollars.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones makes signed an eighty eight million dollar contract.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: What are we talking about? Question for the mail back?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Anybody been talking about Juwan Jennings from the Niners? Even
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the local Bay area radio doesn't seem to talk much
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: about the contract negotiations with him. Is the market just
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: low form or are they having a falling out? I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: think sometimes guys they And this happened to Trey Hendrickson,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: though he pivoted really fast because the Ravens put enough
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: on the TI. Trey Hendrickson at one point in time
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: was telling GMS he wanted like forty million dollars a year.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: So you go to the market, your agent figures out
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: what teams are willing to pay you, and you already
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: have a number in mind. As a player like Jwan
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Buttet heeads last year with the Niners because he wanted
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a big race a couple of years ago. They gave
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: him a two year, fifteen million dollar contract and they
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: gave him some incentives. And last year he made like
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars. But he's thinking like I was one
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: of the best wide receivers or the best wide receiver
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: really last year on a team that just was in
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs. I've been highly productive
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. I just made thirteen million dollars.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Rumors already wants like twenty million dollars a year. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: as someone told me, the combine unless he's your guy.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Other teams aren't enamored with people that don't get open
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: for a lot of money. He's a good blocker, he's
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a physical player. He's made a bunch of clutch catches.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams would offer him like
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: two for fifteen million dollars. Again, you know he had
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: he's become a high level, aggressive teammate. But you know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: some of these teams had character red flags on him
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: coming out of college. Now I think he's definitely shrugged
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: those off. But I think the way he views himself,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: if he was willing to pay for like six million dollars,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: he'd be signed right now. If he was willing to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: play for ten million dollars, maybe he would. I think
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams don't value what he thinks is important,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: which is important like driving guys into the Gatorade buckets,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: blocking coming through with some big third down catches. But
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: he's not fast. You know, he's pretty scheme dependent guy,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and he has a false sense like listen, I he's
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: young and he's been around. He saw Brandon a you
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: get thirty million dollars and quit on the team. So
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it's like you can't pay me eighteen twenty million dollars.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I think the people in life that are most successful
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: have the most common sense and eq about what they're
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: worth at a given time. So sometimes, and I've been
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: doing this now for a decade, where I've been negotiating
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: my own deals and going back and forth, and sometimes
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you got to go listen, the other side's gotta win two,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: or like I'm asking for a little bit much here,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: or this is like they're bringing a lot of stuff
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: to the table too. And I think sometimes when you
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: get a false sense of like I'm worth this, especially
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: in football, the numbers of the team's view you as
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: worth are not even close. When you see some of
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: these bigger names, guys like Juwan James Jennings almost made
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars, I bet he's got a lot of
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: offers that aren't even paying him that a year. Joey
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Bosa even last year made twelve million dollars. So when
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: his best offers are like three or four million dollars,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: you're like, that's the best I can do. So I
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: think that's a big reason a lot of like older
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: players that are bigger names don't sign. And some of
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: those guys like trending down. I think is just he
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: has some flaws that are non negotiables for some teams,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: especially when you're talking a substantial amount of money. So
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I think the reason he is still on the street
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: is his view of his worth and the market's view
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: of his worth are in different stratospheres. I mean, there
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: are teams that would pay him like six million dollars
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: a year, nine million dollars a year maybe. I mean
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: some teams just don't even value them. That's the other
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: thing when you are a specific type player, right, Like,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: if a high end guy comes to the market, we
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: can debate Jalen Phillips, but Jalen Phillips could play for anybody,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: now how much he's worth or whatever. But every team
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: would be interested in Jalen Phillips right for the right price.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Every team in the league would be interested in Trey Hendrickson.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously the top guys. Everyone's interested in those guys. They're
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: not scheme dependent. Well, there are certain players that not
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: every team in the league's gonna be even interested. You
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: don't even fit what I do. My offensive coordinator, head
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: coach that calls plays doesn't like your skill set. So
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't even we wouldn't might not even take you
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: for free because you wouldn't even play on our roster.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: And guys like Juwan Jennings fit that mold like they are.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: There are gonna be some coaches and some general managers
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that philosophically like what he brings to the table. They
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: value little to nothing, which I think there's a value,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like he's a winning player, but like he's not just
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: getting open on everybody and if and a lot of
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: people say, and this definitely hurts him, it's like, well
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: he's got Kyle Shanahan, He's the guy's scheming. I'm open,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And it's kind of true, you know where It's like
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: George Kittle would get open for fucking the Jets. Uh,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: listen to your show. Now, I'm doubling down on Max.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Can't give them three days to have second thoughts. Gotta
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: get on that plane immediately. And to add to that,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Max isn't a Rhodes scholar, as he is mad as hell.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: He can't play while k needing surgery and is still
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: battling for the number one pick. Kind of crazy. Probably
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: what makes HI an incredible player. I don't have that
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: once the trade goes through. Like I haven't seen the video.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Is Jaylen Waddle in Denver yet? But once Sean Payton
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and the Broncos trade for Jaalen Waddle, who do you
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think will greet him? Either at the door he'll go
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: see immediately Sean Payton. What is gonna happen with Jaylen
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Wattle and Sean Payton and the Devin Broncos. He just
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the Denver Broncos. When Trent McDuffie was trading,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: he just like that trade. He just on the rams.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Whether he shows up there the next day or in
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: three days. Once a trade goes through, you just assume
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I'm on that team. So he had a prior engagement.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I could make it, you know, he could have made
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: it Sunday, But I bet the front office and the
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: coaches want the day off and then they gotta fly
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: him out Monday. I actually don't think it's that crazy.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I you just assume it's going down now. I'm in
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: agreement it led to them falling into trade for cheap
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and then pivoting. But the more and more I think about,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you this. When Jalen Waddle in that video
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: goes of him showing up, Sean Payton will be a
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: guy that greets him pretty close to immediately, if not,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the first guy waiting for him at the door would
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: be my guess. So I just think that you don't
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: even think about the trade being the give backs, the
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: we're out the back out. When's that happen? Right? This
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: is not I don't even think it was crossing anyone's mind.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I think we can all agree once we saw the
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: trade had gone through the next day, you just think
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Max Crosby's a raven and the trade can't even technically
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: go through till Wednesday anyway. So whether he shows up
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday or Sunday or Monday, it can't become official
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: till that day. No matter what where I am in agreement.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Is his delay change the calculation. If he shows up
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, maybe he's maybe he's still a raven. He
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: maybe My guess is he probably still is. I honestly
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: think the Niners had a really strong offseason. They trade
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: for osa Osa Adigazua, who's that was a good move.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Third round pick, big time pass rusher, fits scheme, That's
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: an excellent trade. Adding Nate Hobbs Christian Kirk. I gotta
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: pump the brakes a little bit on those interesting guys,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: but if I had to flip a coin, one of
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: those guys will have an impact. I agree on Mike Evans.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: They also did a solid job building some depth on
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: the old line. Overall looks well rounded and productive. Still
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: some things to tie up with Trent, but otherwise I'm
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: really impressed with guys coming back on IR. I'm in agreement.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I like Mike Evans, I like bringing back Drake Greenlaw,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: who there's way less pressure on him to be good now.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I do think the key for the forty nine next
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: year are gonna be Obviously, you need Fred healthy, you
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: need George healthy, you need Christian healthy, you need Trent healthy,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: like clearly like if they're gonna be good, those guys
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: gotta play. They drafted three guys last year really high
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: or really two of the last three years. They need
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsall to play, because when Ricky Pearsoon plays, he's good.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: When Ricky Pearsall is dressed and healthy, he is an
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: impactful NFL player. I don't know what his ceiling is,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: but every time I've watched him, when's healthy, like guy
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: this fucking guy's player and the other two guys are
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: the two d tackles. Last year, you know, they drafted
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Collins in the second round. A lot of people thought
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: it was pretty high. Robert Sahl loved him, made a
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: couple of plays last year. If he can be just
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a solid player, and they're gonna need Mikel Williams to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: become some version of like what Eric Arms did was
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and he tours ACL last year, but that's a guy
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that like you draft eleventh overall, they need Ricky pearsall
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: they need Mikel Williams. Obviously got some other guys in
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: the draft that were good last year. You know, CJ. West,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: the Indiana kid was good. They had a couple. I'm
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: blanking right now, kind of out of side, out of mind.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Haven't watched him play in a while, But I do
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: think it's really really important, Like if they're gonna take
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the next step and sustain this is like Mikel Williams
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: and Ricky Pierce will have to be impact NFL players.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Pearsall is he's got to be on the field. And
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Mikeel coming off that ACL injury, I think the jury's out,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Like what is exactly his skill set. He's not the
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: twitchiest guy off the edge. He's more of like an
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: inside kind of hybrid defensive tackle more than like an
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: edge rusher. But he's, you know, in theory, good against
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: the run. So it's you draft guys in the first round,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: the eleventh pick, like you need that guy to be good.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, when's last time the forty nine ers draft that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I one, they didn't have first round picks forever, and
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: even this year they're drafted in the late twenties. You
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: had the eleventh pick, So I think a ton of
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: pressure on him to be good. I do think Collins
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: and CJ. West like they'll have enough defensive tackles now
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: with Osa, but you get Mikel Williams back, now you
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: got a deep defensive line like both the same thing
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: with Trent and Fred. Those guys have to be healthy.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna beat the Rams, if you're gonna
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: beat Seattle, like their best players are healthy, So your
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: best players need to be healthy. For as great as
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: the Eagles win was, and it was an incredible victory,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: kind of that's not gonna happen that often where you're
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: gonna play teams in big games, that have way more
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: talent and you're playing with like four stringers, you're gonna
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: be able to beat them. It was really cool. I'm
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie but that. I think they'd be the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: first to say, like, that's an outlier situation. We need
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: our guys, we need to go to war with our
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: best players, and in theory that includes Ricky Piersoll and
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: mikel Williams. Okay, a couple more questions. I'd love to
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: get your perspective on coaching hierarchies. Fancier titles like assistant
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: head coach, passing game coordinator, associate head coach, but it's
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: not always clear the real chain of command. For example,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Terrell Williams was recently named the assistance head coach while
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: on staffs, it feels like the offensive coordinator like Mike
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: McDaniel was under Jim Harball with the Chargers, functions as
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the true number two. From your experience inside buildings, how
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: does the hierarchy actually work behind the scenes. Who's really
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the head coach, who's in their ear and decision making
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: priority each game day, week to week. I think it's
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: very team to team. I think the Terrell Williams thing
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: is like he was Rabel's guy who's the defensive coordinator.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Then he gets sick and they elevate I forget his name,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: but the younger kid, and then their defense was really good.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: So he keeps the job. But Rabel loves Williams, so
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: he wants to keep him on the staff, so he
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: makes him the assistant head coach. He's probably more of
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: now of a roamer guy. I think it's fair to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: say Trell Williams has Vrabel's ear, and now Josh has
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: proven in their year working together he's gonna have Rabel's eer, right,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: And I think in some situations like is Sirianni telling
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio what to do and that's not a shot it,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: do you think like Andy's like riding spat Like there's
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of Kyle was with Salah, Like there are
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of situations Shula now with with Sean McVay
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: has like once you get a little equity built up,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: like on the other side of the ball, they kind
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: of leave you alone. Obviously they talk to you all
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: the time, but they're in your ear about like if
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: this guy's screwing up or this guy's not focused, for sure,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: but you're not micromanaging them, and I think that's where
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: assistant head coach sometimes is to take care of a
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: guy that you can't name the coordinator, so it's more
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of a money thing. But I think Mike McDaniel is
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: either true number two, like I would say that's with hardball,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that's more of the defensive coordinator because Jim's pretty active
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks. So I think it's just so teamed
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: a team. You know, Kyle is kind of notorious. He's
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I think he has every meeting room is Mike and videoed,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: so if he's in his office and you're running the
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: linebacker room, he can watch and listen. And part of
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: that goes back to his dad in Walsh, so like
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: when Raheem Morris comes in, like you can use his
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: teach tapes and stuff, but he has access all the
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: time to everybody. You know, Belichick would have been the same.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So I just think it's so teamed to team. How
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: much your GM has Jews telling you what to do
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: as well. Like I also think when you have turnover
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: with the staff, like if Kubiak had come back with Seattle,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I bet he. I don't know what how evolved Mike was.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he was a little involved, but he would
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm not even this Clint's baby. But he leaves,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: you get a new offensive coordinator who's never called plays.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I bet Mike is gonna be a little more hands on.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: So it's like, in theory, you're the offensive coordinator for
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a defensive head coaches calling the plays that should be
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: your baby. But who knows, maybe Mike gets a little
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: more active. I think titles in general in life are
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: really really overrated, unless you're the CEO or the head
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: coach or whatever that there have been a lot of
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I remember living with a guy who very very successful now,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: but at the time he made a big move. He
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: worked in the finance world, got with a big bank,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: and he was like, I was so adamant about a
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: title I wanted to be. I wanted this vice president title.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: And he was at the time probably thirty years old,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Ivy League guy, and he said, looking back, and he
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of issues with bonuses and stuff once
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: he started working there. He's like, all that should have
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: mattered was I fought for my compensation package. They could
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: have called me an intern who cares. So I think
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: titles sometimes can be a little overrated, And it's one
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: of those things internally players know and that definitely the
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: coaches know, but it's really hard unless someone tells you
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: the exact story, you don't really know. Like a lot
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: of offensive coordinators, who's head coach if it's Lafleur, Sean Payton,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: who's not calling plays anymore, Kyle McVeigh or whatever. Some
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: of those guys probably have a bigger role than others.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Some guys, hell, some of their coaches let them call
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: plays during the game sometimes and others it's like, nah,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just kind of there to cut up some tape
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and give some ideas, but he runs the show. So
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's very dependent on the individual and the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: every staff's different, right trusts the big thing too. So
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: it's like if you have a brand new staff, like
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: some of these guys like Kubiak or mentor McCarthy, Like
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: if you ever't worked with a guy, or you haven't
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: worked with a guy in a long time, like there's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: still a feeling out process. Even the good teams, you
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: lose players all the or coaches all the time, so
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: you're constantly like on board a new guy to a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: classic tech term and getting them up to speed and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: having them speak your language, and then them proving that
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: they're good enough that you can trust them not micromanage.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: It's complicated. I guess that's a long wited way to say.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Question from the back, what about Kyler? The Vikings makes
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: you think they would be worse than last year? They
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: were likely a playoff team with a healthy Cartson Wentz.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Even with all the injuries and inconsistent quarterback play. They
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: were nine to eight and a half game from the playoffs.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Is Kyler not a half game upgrade over Carson Wentz?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Colin seems in on the move. Well, here's my thing.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: If you go to the Minnesota Vikings schedule from last year,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: they them like the Lions. It was a fantastic division,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: right They had three teams win nine and then obviously
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: the Bears one to eleven, so back to back years
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: of just being a loaded division. If you go to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: their two thousand and twenty five season, they won their
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: last four games, actually they won their last five games.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Here were their opponents, So at one point in time
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: they were one, two, three, four wits, So they had
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: four wins going in to December seventh. Again, November ended
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving ended they had four wins. They played Washington, who
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: was fucking horrendous, and let's see the box score there.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Who was the quarterback for the Commanders. It was Jayden
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Daniels who went nine of twenty in an interception and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: through seventy eight yards. But they had been they were
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: terrible Dallas, who defense was atrocious, and they won that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: game thirty four to twenty six. Okay, now they're six
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: to eight. Then they played the Giants, whose quarterback at
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: the time was that was Jackson Dart had to be
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: one of his last games seven to thirteen for an
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: interception and thirty three passing yards, so Flores punked them.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Jj threw one hundred yards. They won that thing sixteen
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: to thirteen. They played the Lions. They won that thing
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: twenty three to ten. That's a good win. Then they
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: played the Packers, who didn't try. So they played Washington,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: who's drafting in the top ten. They played Dallas, who
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: his defense was horrendous. They scored thirty four points. They
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: played the Giants, whose coaching staff was all fired, and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: they played the Packers who tanked. Were not tanked, but
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I mean tanked the game, right, they didn't it was
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: over and won sixteen to three. So at one point
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: in time they were four and eight. I think we
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: got to be a little careful talking about them as
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: they were a competitive nine to eight team, because if
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: you go to the Lions, like the Lions were seven,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the Lions were eight and five and kind of fell apart.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: They lost three of their last four games. They lost
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to the Rams, they lost to the Steelers, and they
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: lost the Minnesota game, which was a devastating loss. Golf
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: was terrible, Brian Flores. Again, their defense is good, but
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: again that Minnesota team was four and eight. And I'm
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: not acting like Kyler some scrub, but I also think
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: he gets talked about like he's gonna be really impactful.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: This was not a team like the Lions who were
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: eight and five and then fell apart. They were four
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: and eight. That would be my counter to that one.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: So one of their wins team not trying to win
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: another win, Giants who were an abomination, Commanders who had
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: a terrible season. Some of those wins were not great
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: because I think when you look at their records here,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: if I go to the standings and I go to
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: the NFC East, the Commanders won five games, and the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Giants won four, so combined they won nine and the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Cowboys won seven. But how many games did they lose
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: down the stretch. They lost one, two, three, They lost
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: four the last five, so they actually were competitive until
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: that Lion's game and then they kind of crumbled. That
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: would be my pushback on that one. The volume