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Onboard an Extraterrestrial Craft: Ten Spectacular Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFOs and
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  Speaker 1: the Paranormal. Today, I'm going to be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate type of UFO encounter, and that is the onboard
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  Speaker 1: UFO experience. And in fact, the title of today's episode
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  Speaker 1: is called on Board and Extraterrestrial Craft. Ten spectacular first
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  Speaker 1: hand cases. And yeah, the ten cases I've chosen for
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  Speaker 1: you definitely I think fit that description. These cases reach
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  Speaker 1: all the way back to nineteen twenty one, well before
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  Speaker 1: the modern age of UFOs, all the way to nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven, so pretty recent, and they come from all
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  Speaker 1: over the world. I've chosen five cases from outside of
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  Speaker 1: the United States that includes England, Finland, France, Argentina, and Brazil,
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  Speaker 1: and five from within the United States including California, Florida, Kansas, Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: and Utah. These are cases that involve a wide variety
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  Speaker 1: of ets, physiological evidence. There's a couple multiple witness cases,
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  Speaker 1: which are quite rare for onboard encounters. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: like these cases in particular, not only because they're super
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  Speaker 1: fascinating and very extensive, but I think they have the
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  Speaker 1: most potential to answer the main central questions surrounding extratrustrial visitations,
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  Speaker 1: which is, who are these guys, where do they come from,
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  Speaker 1: and why are they here? What is their agenda on
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  Speaker 1: our planet? So yeah, that makes these cases, I think
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  Speaker 1: super important. They, in my opinion, are the cutting edge
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  Speaker 1: of UFO research and deserve a lot more attention than
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  Speaker 1: they're getting. So these are cases that have quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit of evidence as well, and I think you'll find
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  Speaker 1: them super interesting. I certainly hope so. But this should
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  Speaker 1: be a long episode. Let's just get started, and the
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  Speaker 1: first case I'd like to talk about today, I call
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  Speaker 1: I started to cry, the onboard UFO encounter of mister GB.
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  Speaker 1: This one occurred in the summer of nineteen twenty one
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  Speaker 1: in Pern, France. This is way way before the modern
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  Speaker 1: age of UFOs, in nineteen forty seven, long before UFOs
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  Speaker 1: were at all in the news, So that alone makes
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  Speaker 1: this case important one of the reasons I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: include it. It's also interesting because the witness in this
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  Speaker 1: case is just a little kid eight years old. Contact
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  Speaker 1: often starts at a very young age, so that's another
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  Speaker 1: reason this case is important. But let's just get to
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  Speaker 1: it and you can make up your own minds about it.
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  Speaker 1: This very early case comes from a letter sent by
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  Speaker 1: a first hand witness who's known only as mister GB.
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  Speaker 1: Was sent to the French newspaper the Paris So this
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  Speaker 1: case has not been officially investigated, but it is nevertheless
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  Speaker 1: of interest, if only because it is one of the
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  Speaker 1: first known reports of somebody claiming to be taken on
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  Speaker 1: board a UFO. Mister GB was eight years old at
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  Speaker 1: the time of his experience, which occurred one hot, foggy
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  Speaker 1: early afternoon, likely in the autumn of nineteen fifty one.
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  Speaker 1: And I will just quote the witness directly because he
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  Speaker 1: describes it in quite some detail. As he says, I
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  Speaker 1: was one day wandering along the slopes of the Channel
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  Speaker 1: of Nord. I was eight years old, and I love
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  Speaker 1: to get lost in the moonlike landscapes made by excavations
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  Speaker 1: and from the First World War. Suddenly, two beings wearing
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  Speaker 1: a flexible kind of diving suit literally leaped among the
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  Speaker 1: acacia trees. Without any further ado, they dragged me towards
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  Speaker 1: what I believed was an oddly shaped war tank. They
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  Speaker 1: hoisted me in the machine without I being able to resist,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, without me being able to want to resist.
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  Speaker 1: I can hardly give details on what was the apparatus
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  Speaker 1: and its cabin. I was undoubtedly too much upset. I
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  Speaker 1: remember only two details that there were square or at
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  Speaker 1: least rectangular portholes. The cabin had a kind of flexible
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  Speaker 1: couch on which I had sat. I seemed to recall
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  Speaker 1: that their diving suits were of metallic appearance. I do
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  Speaker 1: not have any memory of any particular anatomical details, except
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  Speaker 1: that the two beings were very tall and very slim.
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  Speaker 1: Suddenly I started to cry, and I do not know
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  Speaker 1: if that moved them, But after a few minutes an
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  Speaker 1: opening appeared in the ceiling of the cabin, and in
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  Speaker 1: a few moments I found myself on the ground. I had, however,
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  Speaker 1: to walk for a large part of the afternoon, until
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  Speaker 1: I found myself near the road which I had left
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  Speaker 1: five minutes earlier. Home that night, my parents called me
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  Speaker 1: a quote dirty little liar, and nobody ever wanted to
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  Speaker 1: believe in my story. So mister GB ended up keeping
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  Speaker 1: his story a secret for more than thirty years until
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  Speaker 1: there was a massive wave of UFO sightings and landings
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  Speaker 1: which occurred in France in late nineteen fifty four. The
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  Speaker 1: researcher Joelle Minard writes of this case that quote, in
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  Speaker 1: view of the numerous similar experiences witnessed in France and
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  Speaker 1: elsewhere during the succeeding quarter century. Incredible as it may
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  Speaker 1: sound at first, this case deserves serious consideration. And I
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  Speaker 1: agree because this clearly wasn't a tank if it had
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  Speaker 1: a couch inside in rectangular portholes, and these do not
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  Speaker 1: appear to be human beings. They were too slender, very tall.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite an interesting case. Ah, the poor kid. It's
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  Speaker 1: too bad his parents didn't believe him, but he's sticking
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  Speaker 1: to his guns. That case wasn't professionally investigated, but given
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  Speaker 1: that it occurred so long ago, well before UFOs were
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  Speaker 1: even a thing, I think it's an important case in
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  Speaker 1: that regard. It's also interesting because it shares a lot
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  Speaker 1: of details we see in modern day cases. Now, let's
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  Speaker 1: move to another case, which I've also found really compelling
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  Speaker 1: because it is a multiple witness case. It's another very
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  Speaker 1: early case. I call this one the Soul Lives Forever,
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  Speaker 1: the onboard ufone counter of Amelia. This is a pseudonym.
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  Speaker 1: The witness is anonymous. But this is a really interesting
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  Speaker 1: case because there are some very prominent spiritual elements to it.
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  Speaker 1: The spiritual aspect of ufone counters often gets overlooked. This
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  Speaker 1: one occurred in July of nineteen forty two in Nini Salo, Cancampa, Finland,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you'll find it a super interesting and
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  Speaker 1: definitely a case with unique elements to it. This very
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  Speaker 1: strange case comes from researcher to Pani kuningas he's the
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  Speaker 1: author of several UFO books and was also brought forward
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  Speaker 1: by Ilka Sarah. This is again one of only a
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  Speaker 1: handful of onboard UFO encounters predating the modern age of
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  Speaker 1: UFOs of nineteen forty seven. The main witness is Amilia.
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  Speaker 1: Again that's a pseudonym as she has requested anonymity. This
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  Speaker 1: experience occurred one day in July of nineteen forty two
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  Speaker 1: as Emilia was walking to her home in Nia Nissalo,
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  Speaker 1: again in Finland, after checking on the family cows. Suddenly,
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  Speaker 1: a tall, middle aged woman with short dark hair wearing
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  Speaker 1: dark blue clothes appeared in front of her and began
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  Speaker 1: to walk along with Amilia. The woman did seem friendly
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  Speaker 1: and kind, according to the witness, but suddenly Amilia was
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  Speaker 1: concerned to see two tall, slender men, human looking. They
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  Speaker 1: were dragging a young boy between them, who was showing
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  Speaker 1: fear and did not want to go with them, and
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  Speaker 1: Emilia recognized the boy from a neighboring farm. She knew
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  Speaker 1: who he was. These men did appear to be human again,
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  Speaker 1: the shirt light brown hair, and were wearing blue shirts
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  Speaker 1: and green pants. But things took a strange turn moments
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  Speaker 1: later when Amelia and this woman came upon an open field,
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  Speaker 1: and Amelia could now see a quote strange ship was
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  Speaker 1: sitting on three landing legs on the ground. She said
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  Speaker 1: it was silver metallic, about ten feet high twenty one
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  Speaker 1: feet wide, apparently a classic flying saucer, and she washed
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  Speaker 1: as these two men dragged the protesting boy up into
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  Speaker 1: this craft. Now, at this point, the woman accompanying Emilia
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  Speaker 1: began to communicate to her telepathically and invited her on
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  Speaker 1: board the craft. Amelia agreed, She and the woman went
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  Speaker 1: into the craft. Amelia described being in this round room
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  Speaker 1: with a six foot high control panel a table in
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  Speaker 1: the center of the room. There were windows looking outside,
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  Speaker 1: which was strange as no windows had been visible from
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  Speaker 1: the outside of the craft. The floor appeared to be
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  Speaker 1: metallic but was covered with a rubber like carpet. She
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  Speaker 1: said there were five men sitting around this table. The
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  Speaker 1: woman proceeded to ask Amelia to press a button on
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  Speaker 1: the console. Amelia obliged, and as she did, the ship
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  Speaker 1: immediately rose upwards. And this is when the woman began
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  Speaker 1: to communicate some very interesting things to Amelia. She told
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  Speaker 1: her that it was possible to travel back and forth
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  Speaker 1: in time. She told her that the soul lives forever,
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  Speaker 1: and that they were now quote flying towards the time
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  Speaker 1: when Jesus was born. The lady told Emilia that it
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  Speaker 1: was quote very important to know Jesus. Amelia had the
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  Speaker 1: impression that the woman was in charge of the craft. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: there are no more details as to what actually happened.
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  Speaker 1: The next thing Amelia knew she was outside of the craft,
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  Speaker 1: about fifteen hundred feet from where the ship had been.
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  Speaker 1: She felt quite ill, immediately vomited and rushed home. She
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  Speaker 1: was ill for about a month and was actually hospitalized
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  Speaker 1: with no appetite. Her eyes were red and swollen. As
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  Speaker 1: far as the other witness, the little boy, he was returned,
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  Speaker 1: but was apparently mentally adversely affected by his encounter because
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  Speaker 1: it was four years later that he ended up in
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  Speaker 1: a psychiatric hospital. A fascinating case for sure. It's really
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  Speaker 1: interesting because the ETS describing this case were absolutely human looking.
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  Speaker 1: That has really profound implications, which points to towards us
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  Speaker 1: having a much closer relationship to ETS. So perhaps the
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  Speaker 1: message that so many contactees get from ETS that we
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  Speaker 1: do share a common heritage is absolutely true, because how
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  Speaker 1: could you explain this. I mean, this does raise questions
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  Speaker 1: about human origins and whether or not we evolved on
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  Speaker 1: this planet. I also found it an interesting case because
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  Speaker 1: there was the mention of Jesus and an urging for
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  Speaker 1: the witness to learn more about Jesus. So this is
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me because there are some people out there
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  Speaker 1: who feel like this is a demonic phenomenon. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: one of them. I've certainly looked into that theory. I
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  Speaker 1: don't find it at all persuasive. I do think such
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  Speaker 1: things are real, but my research shows that this is
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  Speaker 1: an absolutely separate and different phenomena. I do believe we're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with extraterrestrials in the classic sense. It's my personal assessment.
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  Speaker 1: You may have a different theory, which is of course
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  Speaker 1: perfectly fine. That's why. I want to get this information
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  Speaker 1: out there in an objective, unbiased way, without pushing a narrative,
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  Speaker 1: so that everyone can make up their own minds about
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  Speaker 1: what's going on here. So let's move to another case,
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  Speaker 1: because there are a lot of them. These ten cases
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  Speaker 1: are honestly just the tip of the iceberg. And this
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  Speaker 1: next case is super compelling. I call this one. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't believe it, I can't blame you that, of course,
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  Speaker 1: being a direct quote from the witness, this is the
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  Speaker 1: onboard UFO encounter of Ricardo Machado. This occurred in April
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  Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty seven in Pahas blancs Argentina. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a single witness case, but certainly compelling because this did
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  Speaker 1: not involve hypnosis. Neither did the two above. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the cases in this collection do. But these fully conscious encounters,
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  Speaker 1: I think do have an extra level of credibility because
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  Speaker 1: you can't say this was a hypnotically retrieved memory. And frankly,
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  Speaker 1: the ones that are recalled through hypnosis match up perfectly
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  Speaker 1: with those that are fully conscious, so that is an
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  Speaker 1: important detail. But yeah, I think you'll find this case
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  Speaker 1: particularly interesting. Again, this case received tremendous publicity after it occurred,
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  Speaker 1: being published in newspapers such as the Diario de Cordoba,
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  Speaker 1: the Cordoba Daily News, and magazines such as The Flying
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  Speaker 1: Saucer Review, and books such as The Humanoids by Charles Bowen.
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  Speaker 1: Initially the witness was anonymous, but we now know his
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  Speaker 1: name to be Ricardo Maschado. Following his encounter, he did
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  Speaker 1: grant an interview to a journalist, Antonio Perez a Leman,
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  Speaker 1: and told this journalist quote, I am now telling you
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  Speaker 1: in confidence has been revealed to nobody so far, and
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  Speaker 1: if you don't believe it, I can't say I blame
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  Speaker 1: you for I doubt whether anybody would believe it. If
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  Speaker 1: I were to state the facts openly when it happened,
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  Speaker 1: the mere mention of flying saucers would have meant that
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  Speaker 1: I would have been considered hopelessly insane. Now, according to Ricardo,
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  Speaker 1: it was around seven point thirty a m. One morning
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  Speaker 1: in late April nineteen fifty seven. He was driving his
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  Speaker 1: motorcycle just a few miles from the Pajas Blancis International Airport,
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  Speaker 1: heading towards Rio Sabayos. Again, this is in Argentina. He
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  Speaker 1: had just reached the Pajas Blancas area when for no
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  Speaker 1: apparent reason, his motorcycle engine failed, so Ricardo got off
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  Speaker 1: of his motorcycle to check the engine, and this is
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  Speaker 1: when he immediately noticed an enormous disc shaped craft hovering
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  Speaker 1: fifty feet above the road in front of him. So
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  Speaker 1: this caused great fear. He went straight to panic, ran
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  Speaker 1: off the road, abandoned his motorcycle and hid in a ditch,
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  Speaker 1: and he watched as this craft lowered down to about
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  Speaker 1: seven feet above the road and became stationary. He could
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  Speaker 1: now hear a loud hissing sound coming from it, sort
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  Speaker 1: of like air escaping from a tire, he said. And
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  Speaker 1: he could see that this craft was metallic, with a
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  Speaker 1: sort of greenish bluish iridescence to its texture. Ricardo estimated
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  Speaker 1: that this craft was about sixty feet wide and fifteen
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  Speaker 1: feet high. Moments later, a weird, almost transparent looking stairway
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  Speaker 1: or a lift emerged from the bottom section of this
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  Speaker 1: craft and came down to about one foot above the road,
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  Speaker 1: and Ricardo watched this human looking figure emerge. He was
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  Speaker 1: an estimated five feet eight inches in height and was
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  Speaker 1: wearing strange clothes, a sort of plastic looking diver's suit
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  Speaker 1: is how Ricardo described it. So this figure proceeded to
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  Speaker 1: look around him at the environment and then began to
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  Speaker 1: walk directly towards Ricardo. Ricardo became frantic with fear at
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  Speaker 1: this point and actually tried to dig a hole in
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  Speaker 1: the ground in the ditch to hide himself from detection.
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  Speaker 1: But the et apparently knew he was there, walked right
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  Speaker 1: up to him and gracefully extended his hand to assist
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo out of the ditch. Seeing no other choice, apparently,
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo took the man's hand and allowed him to pull
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  Speaker 1: him from the ditch. Being then gestured towards the craft
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  Speaker 1: in an apparent attempt to get Ricardo to follow him
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  Speaker 1: without fear, but Ricardo was still afraid he resisted, at
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  Speaker 1: which point the man did something very interesting, just reached
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  Speaker 1: out and gently stroked Ricardo's forehead to calm him down,
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  Speaker 1: and again pointed towards the machine. It apparently worked, because
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo was now calm and followed the man up to
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  Speaker 1: the craft, up this little staircase lift and inside of it,
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  Speaker 1: and this lift kind of closed up into the craft,
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  Speaker 1: and Ricardo now found himself in a large cabin. He
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  Speaker 1: said along the walls, he saw about a half dozen
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  Speaker 1: six foot wide panels, each covered with intricate equipment and
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  Speaker 1: television like screens. Other human looking beings very much like
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  Speaker 1: the first one, were seated in front of each panel.
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  Speaker 1: Each was dressed exactly the same way. Above the panels,
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo was amazed to see large square windows, which puzzled
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  Speaker 1: him as no windows had been visible from the outside,
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  Speaker 1: just like the previous case. Now he did see light
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  Speaker 1: coming in through the windows, but he says that a
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  Speaker 1: dull phosphorescent type of light pervaded the cabin and there
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  Speaker 1: was no light source visible, so that puzzled him as well.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody in the craft, except for the gentleman who escorted
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  Speaker 1: him inside, paid any attention whatsoever to Ricardo, and the
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  Speaker 1: next thing he knew, he was being escorted out of
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  Speaker 1: the craft down this little staircase lift. As he did so,
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  Speaker 1: Ricardo reached out and wrapped his knuckles against the side
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  Speaker 1: of the craft, which rang with the sort of metallic sound,
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  Speaker 1: confirming that yeah, it was made of metal. Riccardo did
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  Speaker 1: ask how this craft was able to stay afloat in
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  Speaker 1: the being replied with a gesture passing the palm of
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  Speaker 1: his hand flat over the other. Ricardo did not know
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  Speaker 1: what that meant, but apparently this is perhaps something to
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  Speaker 1: do with anti gravity. Pure speculation there at any rate,
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  Speaker 1: Together they approached Ricardo's motorcycle, which the ET proceeded to
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  Speaker 1: inspect with curiosity. Ricardo offered to start it up, but
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  Speaker 1: the ET, again apparently communicating with gestures, made Ricardo to
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  Speaker 1: understand that the motorcycle would not work work while the
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  Speaker 1: craft was there. The man placed his hand on Ricardo's shoulder,
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  Speaker 1: apparently a goodbye gesture, and then walked back into the craft.
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  Speaker 1: The staircase lift closed and after a short moment, the
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  Speaker 1: craft rose quickly upward to an elevation of about twenty
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  Speaker 1: five hundred feet and zipped off very quickly. And that
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  Speaker 1: was the experience. But here is some interesting confirmation because
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  Speaker 1: later that morning, at eight forty five, reports of a UFO,
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  Speaker 1: presumably the same craft came from nearby Cordoba, also Pampa
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  Speaker 1: del Pocha, and forty five minutes later at Pilar Calamuchita
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  Speaker 1: and San Francisco Shanar, and finally at ten am from Arguallo.
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  Speaker 1: So quite a few people were seeing craft on that morning.
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  Speaker 1: And there's an interesting EndNote to this case that is
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  Speaker 1: perhaps related because just a few months later, on August twenty,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven, a plane from the Argentine Air Force
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  Speaker 1: was forced to make an emergency landing at Quillino. This
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  Speaker 1: is in Cordoba, not far from the above encounter. Three
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  Speaker 1: air Force guards were sent to protect the plane, then
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  Speaker 1: two had to leave to get supplies, so there was
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  Speaker 1: just one man left guarding this plane, and he was
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  Speaker 1: staying inside a tent. This is when he heard a
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  Speaker 1: persistent buzzing noise and went outside and to a shock,
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  Speaker 1: saw a disc shaped craft hovering and estimated two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and eighty feet overhead. Looking down on the ground, he
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  Speaker 1: could see the vegetation around him seemed to be agitated
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  Speaker 1: by the presence of the craft. The guard immediately tried
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  Speaker 1: to withdraw his revolver to shoot at the craft, but couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: He found it strangely stuck in its holster, and this
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  Speaker 1: is when he heard a soft voice coming from the craft,
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  Speaker 1: apparently audible, which told him not to be afraid that
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  Speaker 1: they had come to make the world aware of interplanetary ships,
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  Speaker 1: that they were setting up a station of some kind
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  Speaker 1: in Salta not too far to establish contact with the
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  Speaker 1: people of Earth in an attempt to help us, as
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  Speaker 1: they said, because of the wrong use of atomic energy
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  Speaker 1: was threatening to destroy humanity. They said that soon the
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  Speaker 1: rest of humanity would be aware of ETS. At this point,
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  Speaker 1: the vegetation again seemed to become more disturbed. The craft
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  Speaker 1: rose vertically another one hundred and fifty feet, then moved
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  Speaker 1: off to the north or an on board experience That
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  Speaker 1: one was remarkably brief, though we do see that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: appear that this gentleman was physically examined, which is certainly
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  Speaker 1: the most common experience that people have when they're taken
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  Speaker 1: on board. So apparently he was just pulled on board
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to be given a tour. I think there's an element
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: here of ET's just wanting us to know they are here.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: But I like that case because there were seven other
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: sightings about in that area at that time, which absolutely
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: lends a huge amount of corroboration to Ricardo Maschado's experience,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: not to mention the other encounter by the military officer
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: just a few months later in the same area, which
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I also found super compelling because once again we get
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: this warning against nuclear weaponry proliferation. The use of nuclear
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: material really in any capacity. It's a very prominent theme
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that runs through firsthand contact cases. So another important case.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next one, which is not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that well known but certainly deserves to be. I call
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: this next one there was something above us that is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: a direct quote from the witness. This is the board
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: UFO encounter of mister Greenemeier. We don't know his first name. Unfortunately,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: this case has kind of moved into obscurity, so I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: think it's important to revive it a little bit because
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: it has some really interesting elements to it. This occurred
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: in the summer of nineteen fifty eight in Novato, California,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and technically this is a multiple witness case. There were
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: three four witnesses. Only one person was taken on board
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: some very compelling physiological effects afterward that point towards the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: veracity of this case. And it's got some other interesting
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: details that we see a lot in some that we
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: don't see. This case was investigated by APRO, the Aerial
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Phenomenon Research Organization, and primarily researcher James Harder, PhD, a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: very well respected researcher, and also involves Leslie M. Lacron
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: as a hypnotist who worked with the main witness. This
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: case involved three, perhaps four witnesses, all young boys. The
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: central witnesses a twelve year old boy, mister R. Greenemire.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The others were thirteen and ten and eleven. They were brothers.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: This case took place in Novato, not far from the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: witnesses homes off Highway thirty seven, very near the Petaluma River,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: right on the outskirts really of Hamilton Air Force Base.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: It was one pm in the afternoon one summer day
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight as the three boys were playing
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: up in the hills in front of their homes. This
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is a pretty rural area at that time, when together
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: they saw a quote silver cigar shaped object, as mister
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Greenemire says, it appeared to be just below treetop level
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: on the ridge across the valley was above the ground
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and stationery. It was a silvery color. It was saucer.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It really appeared to be reflecting sunshine. We became very
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: excited about the thing and went to tell our mothers,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: but they just laughed it off. I went down to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: tell my parents there was a flying saucer on the hill,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: but they didn't believe us, so yeah, cigar shaped or
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: saucer shaped. The witness did say that this could be
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a matter of perspective. He's really not sure, but it
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was definitely a solid object and their parents did not
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: believe them. So with no help from their parents, these
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: kids were left to their own devices to figure out
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: what was going on, and they did. As the witness says,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: so we got our BB guns and went to the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: spot where it should be visible. We were armed. Me
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and my friends were out to go capture a flying saucer.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So we got up there and we were looking around
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and we didn't see anything. So we were standing around,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: fooling around up there, and was at this point a
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: weird feeling overcame mister Greenemire, as he says, I felt
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like there was something over my head. I felt like
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: there was something directly above us. I sort of wanted
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to look up, but I didn't dare because I was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: scared there would be something up there. You know how
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you get goose pimply your hair stands on end. It
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: was then that we heard the beeping noise like a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: busy signal on a phone. So right before this beeping
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: noise mister Greenamire was afraid to look up and actually
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: asked his friend if there was anything up there, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: he said that there was nothing up there, but it
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: looked to the main witness like his friend was actually
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: closing his eyes. All the boys felt that the sun
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: seemed to be unusually bright, and mister Greenamire was still
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: too afraid to look up, so apparently there was a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: bright object right above them, but this is unclear at
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: any rate. They stood there for just a moment longer,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and then started walking towards where it sounded like this
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: beeping sound was coming from. There was nothing there, only
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the cows of their neighbor, mister Benson, So they were
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: continuing to walk around, searching and investigating, when something very
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: strange happened, As mister Greenamire says, for some reason, I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: felt tired or sleepy or something and lay down in
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the grass. So his two friends continued walking up a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: hill and suddenly came running back towards the primary witness, saying,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: there's a flying saucer over there, although all three of
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: them had just seen one earlier and were actually looking
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: for it. For some reason, mister Greenemire didn't believe them,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: called them psychos. But that's when he noticed that his
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: friends were suddenly laying down on the ground. As he says,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I thought they were just playing with me, so I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: didn't pay any attention. I looked up again, and now
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: this is where my story is getting kind of funny.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I seemed to remember there were other people standing around
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: them who were dressed up in weird costumes like spacemen.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I figured it was just somebody trying to play a joke.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Somebody else was trying to scare me, So he started
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to get a little scared. He felt unsafe. He wasn't
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: sure if his friends were seeing what he was seeing,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and he also wasn't sure if these strange figures standing
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: around his friends could see him. So he lay still,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: hoping to remain undetected, and as mister Greenamire says, I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: didn't want to look up to take a good square
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: look at them. I was assuming that they were somebody
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: from over a hill, dressed and trying to pull a
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Halloween trick. It was hard to figure out. I was
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: in sort of a confused, hazy mental attitude. I don't
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: remember for sure whether somebody approached me and then went
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: back or approached all the way up to me. First,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I do remember that there was a pair of feet
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: standing there, sort of gray boots or something like dark gray.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So at this point the witness's memory of events becomes
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit jumbled. He does remember shouting at whoever
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: was there, not receiving any answer. He remembers looking up
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: at them and seeing something that really scared him, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: he also remembers something else, as he says, I seem
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to remember having either shot at one of these people
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: with a b begun and it having no effect. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: seem to remember that I hit somebody with the gun
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and the others thrashing around. Somehow I lost my b begun.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I turned around and I ran and I fell down.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I remember thinking there's something all over watching me fall.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So yeah, events get a little confusing. He does recall
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: hearing a second series of beeping noises. He believed at
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: one point he did lose consciousness because, as the witness says,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: when I woke up again, I had my eyes closed.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: When I woke up after the second series of beeping,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I was no longer laying there. I was standing in
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a little hollow space in the trees around the edge
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and none of us had our BB guns. We had
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: BB guns when we went up there, and I asked
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: them his friends if they had seen where it quote
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the beeping had come from. They were still interested in
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: finding where the beeping was coming from, and they said
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: they had their eyes closed and didn't know where it
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: came from. So we left. Then after that we found
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: our be beguns. They found theirs in the same place
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: where I saw them laying down, but mine was not there.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I found mine down the hill. It was in rather
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: sad shape and had a grass underneath the lever. The
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: plastic stop was broken, so clearly something had happened that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they don't fully recall. And this was when he did
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: recall swing his gun like a bat at one of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the beings and or shooting at them. Now with their
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: guns in hand, they started to walk home and the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: entire incident was not discussed. As mister Greenamire says, we
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: didn't say a word going down the hill and happily
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: up the street, and we figured that was kind of odd,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you know, there should be something said, but nothing happened.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: We got home and our parents asked, where have you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: been all day? Our mothers wanted to know where we
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: had been all afternoon, and to their shock, it was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: now about near sunset. Hours had passed where it seemed
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like it had been only minutes. They did rush back
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: up to the spot for a second loof, and sure
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: enough there was that craft still in the sky, as
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: mister Greenamire says, was back at the original position where
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: we saw it in the first place. We just gave
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: it up as crazy then. So following this incident, the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: kids did get in a fight. They never talked to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: each other again. The subject became kind of taboo. The
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: sister did mention it once, but that's it. However, following
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: this incident, the witness did dream about it, and he
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: did recall seeing a being standing over him with quote
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: large slanted eyes. He saw what looked like two tubes
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: going up to its head, and he also had some
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: pretty prominent physiological effects directly related to this incident. He says.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: He developed sores on his body, and he also had
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: two strange bruises on his chin and suffered some hair loss.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: So the witness did not discuss this incident for years,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: but about five years later, he was on an airplane
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: flight from la to Dallas when the pilot made an
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: amazing announcement, as mister Greenamire says, the pilot said, look
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: out the left side of the plane, way up in
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the air. There's something up there. It looks like a
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: flying saucer. We can't identify it. It can't be a
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: weather balloon because it's going against against the jet stream
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that's up there. So the pilot actually announced a UFO
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: outside the plane. I know of other cases like this,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: but per the witness, everybody on the plane scrambled to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the windows to look and he saw a quote, a
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: bright aluminum object up there that looked like a disc.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Everybody on the plane was looking out the window. So
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it was this incident that reignited his interest in UFOs
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and in his own personal experience. He ended up obtaining
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a UFO book by Coral and Jim Lorenzen contacted them
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and was interviewed and hypnotized. So under hypnosis he recalled
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: this incident. He recalled being taken up into the craft
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and physically examined. The beings were described as quote, spacemen.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: He said they were five feet tall with big heads,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: big eyes, stubby little fingers. He recalled that one of
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: these eaties inserted two tube like devices into his chin,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: apparently where these bruises were later found, and he believes
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: they were taking a blood sample. There's likely more information
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: on this case, but has never been released. Interesting, however,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: is another case which occurred in the same area and
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: around the same time er the National UFO Reporting Center.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Around July fifteenth, nineteen fifty eight, at five point thirty pm,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a man and his father were driving along Highway one
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: oh one right by Novato when they noticed a small
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: fire in a field not far away. So they turned
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and looked and saw the cause of the fire. As
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the witness says, we saw this shiny, greenish object about
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: thirty to forty feet in diameter, next to the edge
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of the sand Francisco Bay. Then the object took off
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: almost in a forty five degree angle towards us, moving
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: at such a great speed that after a few moments,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it just got smaller and smaller until it disappeared. The
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: saucer was totally quiet, it had no lights that we
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: could see, and it left the grass field totally burning.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: So the witness's father urged him not to talk about it,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and he didn't, not for forty years later that he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: finally reported it to Newfark in hopes that someone else
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: in the area had seen something similar to confirm his
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: own sighting. So these two events could very well be related.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: And there's another interesting case in Novato which deserves mentioning
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a couple of them. Actually, one occurred on the evening
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: of October twenty third, nineteen seventy five, when four witnesses
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: saw a ring of lights which they said was fifty
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: feet wide. This is interesting because later that night, one
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of the witnesses was in her kitchen and looking outside,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: she saw a quote man in a metallic suit that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: had no eyes, a slit for a mouth, and a
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: pointy looking head. She screamed, and this PHE's figure ran
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: up a hill, she said, faster than a person could go,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and was gone. Later that night, her sons saw a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: glowing object among the trees in that area, and going
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: there the next morning, they found three four foot wide
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: circles on the ground in the shape of a triangle,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: with the grass spun in the same direction in each
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of these circles, so more landing traces. And finally, there
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was another case which occurred on April fifteenth, nineteen eighty nine,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: when two witnesses saw what they described as a vertical
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: dumbbell shaped object quote like two spheres connected together. This
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: object had a glowing halo around it. They actually used
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: binoculars and so that they could see four smaller golden
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: discs around them. Another weird thing they noticed was a
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: quote strange absence of kids and dogs at the time.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: So perhaps the oz effect is taking place. I think
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you'll agree that's a pretty interesting case. And although his
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: memory of the on board segment is somewhat sketchy and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: pretty brief, it's clearly an important case, and that there
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: were multiple witnesses and for that matter, other sightings occurring
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: in that area. It could be significant that this is
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: pretty close to Hamilton AFB. Hard to say for sure
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: what's going on here, but certainly a very interesting case.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next one. I call this
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: next one they came from the Stars, the onboard encounter
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of miss DS. This one occurred August sixteen, nineteen sixty five,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: in Sedalia, Missouri. This is an important case. This is
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: one that involves missing time. So the memories were recovered
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: using the technique of hypnotic regression, but the missing time
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: aspect has certainly been verified, and it's an important case
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: because it's a fairly extensive encounter with a lot of
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: information that I found quite interesting and some unique, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: some actually quite familiar. This little known case was investigated
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: by respected researcher Jerome Clark, along with the assistance of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a hypnotist by the name of Ron Owen. The witness
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: is anonymous known only by her initials DS. Let's all
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: use the pseudonym Debbie. At the time of her encounter,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Debbie lived on the northwest edge of Sedalia. This is
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in Missouri, and was around ten forty five PM on
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: August sixteen, nineteen sixty five, that she decided to drive
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: to the local drug store this is about five to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: ten minutes from her home, so she could pick up
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: some diapers and cigarettes. She was on her return trip,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: probably around eleven PM, just a few blocks from her house,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: when she saw something really unusual which caused her to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: slow down to take a better look at it. She
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: saw what appeared to be an unusual looking figure in
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the ditch to her right. He appeared to be picking
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: things up off the ground, and as she drove by
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: him or towards him, he turned and waved at her.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Then he stumbled as though he was trying to come
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: out of the ditch, and moved towards her. She did
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: also notice a strange, smoky light in the field next
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: to the road, but all of this looked strange to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: her and kind of concerned her, so she drove off,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and this is when she saw what she thought were
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: two large birds, one of which flew directly at her car.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: She was confused, afraid, disoriented. She stepped on the gas
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and rushed the short distance home. But when she arrived home,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: her husband was very angry because it was now twelve
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: twenty five a m. And he wanted to know where
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: she had been. Debby was unable to account for about
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: one hour and twenty minutes of time, and all she
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: could tell her husband was that she remembered seeing some
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: kind of giant bird, some flashing lights, a figure. She
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: wondered if there had been a car accident or something,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: but none of it made any sense, and the whole
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: incident puzzled her for many years. At the time, she
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: had no knowledge of UFOs or ET's. It wasn't until
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: years later, after speaking with researcher Jerome Clark, that she
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: realized this was UFO related. She agreed to undergo hypnotic
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: regression to the time of the incident, and under hypnosis
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: an entirely different scenario emerged. What she thought were two
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: birds were in fact two five foot tall figures dressed
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: in one piece suits which covered them pretty much from
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: head to toe except for their eyes. As she drove
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: up to them, they were standing in a ditch on
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the right side of the road. One appeared to be
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: holding a container or a sack of some kind on
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: its back, while the other was collecting samples of grass, rocks,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and soil and putting them into the bag. She said
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: their movements were strangely stiff, almost robotic, especially their arms,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: which almost seemed to flop up and down, somewhat in
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the manner of a bird flapping its wings, hence the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: screen memory of birds at any rate. On rypnosis. She
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: recalled that one of these figures tried to climb out
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: of the ditch, which she remembers this fully consciously, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: this figure slipped, got up, and then successfully climbed out
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: of the ditch and began to walk towards her car,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: gesturing for her to stop. Debby says that at this
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: point her car engine failed and a feeling of terror
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: and helplessness overwhelmed her. The figure walked right up to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: her car, and she could see that it was dressed
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: in this full body jumpsuit kind of like a mummy's
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: how she put it. It shone a light on her face.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: This caused her to become immobilized. She said. She also
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: felt some pain in her legs and in her head.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Looking at the field, she could now see a large
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: glowing object the shape of a football. It moved and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: landed on the road. It had been very bright, but
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: now she could see that it was metallic. She said.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: It had a bright red light and a number of
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: white lights along the bottom. So the figure next to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: her car walked around the car, while the other in
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the ditch moved towards the craft on the road. She
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: saw a door open in the lower section of theft
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and two or three additional figures came out. She said.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: They looked largely human, except the head was more pointed,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the eyes kind of wrapped around the sides of their head,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: had a very thin mouth just align with no lips.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: They were five and a half feet tall. In some ways,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: this does sound like grays, but at any rate, they
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: came up to the car, opened the door, and led
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: her out of the car towards the object. One spoke
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to her telepathically, saying she would not be hurt, but
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that she must come with them. He would be the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: only one who communicated with her through the whole experience,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: so they actually carried her because she was unable to walk.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: They carried her up what she thought were some stairs
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: into the craft, and once inside, her first impression was
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a difficulty breathing because the air felt heavy. She said
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: she's not entirely sure of the sequence of the events,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: but she did recall that the craft appeared to lift
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: up off the road. This caused the interior lights of
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the craft to change from white to red, and the
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: craft then landed in the field, and one of the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: ets told her that they had to move off the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: road to avoid detection, that they had in fact moved
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: her car as well. She was then taken to a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: room with rounded walls and a metal table. She was
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: instructed to lie down on the table. She said that
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: there were three humanoid figures in the room. The one
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: who was speaking to her, who she perceived to be
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the leader and sort of a doctor or scientist. There
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: were two others who were about a foot shorter. Their
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: eyes were rounder than the leader, their skin was very wrinkly,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: whereas the leaders was smooth. She had the impression that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: these other smaller figures were quite a bit older. She
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: did notice that the leader had an insignia on his
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: chest which portrayed three rings. The second figure, one of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the shorter ones, had a symbol that looked to her
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: like a red lightning bolt, and Debbie had the impression
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: that this figure was a female and that she was
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the pilot of the craft. These two smaller figures made
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: her fearful and uncomfortable. She did not like them. They
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: looked quite different. She did recall the female one carrying
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: a tray of some kind into the room, and this
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: is when she was examined. The leader began to remove
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Debbie's clothes with the assistance of the other two. They
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: examined her hair. It took a skin scraping. The leader
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: examined her feet, and Debbie had the impression that he
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: was excited to see her red toenail polish, apparently thinking
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that it was their natural color, and he told her
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that their people don't have toes, and actually showed her
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a model of their feet to demonstrate the lack of toes.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: The leader then took a round black object out of
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the wall which they placed on or over her head.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: This object, this instrument, glowed with a blue light. She
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: felt a brief flash of pain, kind of like pins
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: is how she put it. It almost felt like they
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: were penetrating the top of her head and entering into
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: her brain. She felt as if her body was being
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: quote blown up with air or something. They then showed
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: her a screen on the wall which showed this weird
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: pattern of about seven vertical lines with weird dots and
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: dashes between them, all of different colors, and they told
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: her that they were taking pictures of her body, that
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: this was a representation of that. So she's looking at
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: these strange symbols, and she told the leader that she
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: didn't look like that. This caused the leader to smile.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: That was her impression, But without speaking, all she had
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: to do was think. She asked the leader why they
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: were doing this, and he told her it was to
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: determine the differences between people. She asked them, do you
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: live nearby? And he told her no, that his home
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: was in the sky far away. Now, apparently unaware of
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: UFOs and not believing in the aliens, she told the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: et that this was impossible, that people don't live in
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the sky, and he told her that, in fact, they do,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: And this is when he showed her a star map
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: on this computer like screen, pointed to one of the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: stars and said that this was their home world. Explained
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: that they had come to Earth to collect samples. He
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: told her that they cooperated with other ets on specific projects,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: but one of the problems was that human aircraft would
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: chase them and cause trouble for them. So after being
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: physically examined and having this short conversation, Debbie was escorted
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: out of the ship back to her car, which was
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: now back on the road where ahead been when the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: experience began. The figures returned into the craft, which rose
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: upward just a short distance and then seemed to vanish.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Debby drove off in fear, and all she could recall
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: consciously was a vague impression of this figure in a ditch,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: two birds flapping their wings, one coming towards their car,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and this blinking light in a field. I think that's
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: an important case for a number of reasons, not only
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: because of the information that the witness learned, but how
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: easily a onboard encounter can sort of slip past the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: memory of a witness who was left only with the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: idea that she had encountered bird coming at her car,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a vague memory of a man waving at her This
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: sort of thing lights off the side of the road.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Makes me wonder how many people have had an onboard
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: encounter and sort of just dismiss it as an unusual
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: event and perhaps didn't even noticed that they had missing time.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And again, I do think hypnosis done correctly is a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: valid tool to recall memories on board a UFO, because,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: as I said, the hypnotically recalled memories do in fact
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: match up with those that are consciously recalled. So another
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: amazing case, and let's move to the next one, which
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I call I saw three beings the on board UFO
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: encounter of missus G. Like many witnesses, she elected to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: be anonymous camp blamer. The ridicule and disbelief surrounding this
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: subject persists to this day. And this one occurred years
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: ago in October of nineteen sixty five in Rmington, England,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and while there isn't a whole lot to this case.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I found it to be really interesting. I was initially
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: hesitant to include this case because the details on it
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: are quite sparse, but it does come from a highly
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: respected UK based researcher and scientist by the name of j.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Bernard de Laire. And this case is important because it
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: illustrates that many people who have an on board encounter
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: often don't remember much of what happened on board and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: are essentially left with amnesia of the event. The Winns did, however,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: remember seeing humanoids. Also, the Winness speaks about the event
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: in her own words. Says the researcher, Bernard de Laire,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: we take this report seriously. Her story is very graphic
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: and fits many others. She is so frightened of not
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: being taken seriously that we may name her only as
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Missus G. So this case took place in Irmington. This
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: is in Devon, UK. This is the epitome of a
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: quaint little English village. And it happened one day in
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: October of nineteen sixty five. Missus G was out in
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: her backyard hanging clothes up when she noticed a bright,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: glowing blue object coming directly towards her from the north
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: section of the sky, and, as she says in her
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: own words, the light hovered over the garden. I was petrified.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I dropped the washing. There I was completely enveloped in
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: bubbles of light. I saw three beings who looked like men.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: They did not speak. They were each about five feet tall,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: wearing bluish, metallic like clothing. They grasped me by the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: arms and we were lifted up a beam of light
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: into a kind of room. There were more men there.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I was given the impression that I would come to
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: no harm. A little later, I found myself back on
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: my lawn. I felt a sharp blow on the back
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: of my neck. I was stunned, but not hurt. When
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I looked around, the things set off at great speed
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and disappeared. So yeah, she did remember part of what
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: happened on board. Bernard de Laire, the investigator, points out
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that the witness had just given birth to her son
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: one month earlier, which may be significant as we do
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: know that ets do show an interest in human reproduction. Ultimately,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: he did find her story very believable, as he says,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: to many that would sound incredible, but there have been
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: many reports of experiences similar in almost every detail from
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: many countries in recent years alone. Such reports mean little,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: but more and more totally unrelated accounts come up with
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: the same details. These people are representative of all walks
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: of life, from dust men to policemen, to architects to scientists.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It is just not possible that all these people, none
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: of whom have ever met and whose accounts have rarely
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: been published, could agree on so much and at the
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: same time be making it all up. I totally agree.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Apparently there is more detail to this case, but that's
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: all I could find. Would really love to talk to
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: that witness directly, because it's pretty rare that a person
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: has a one off, and by that I mean a
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: singular encounter. Again, most often contact is something that occurs
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: throughout a person's life, particularly if they have an on
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: board experience. They more likely than not have had experiences
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: as a young child and throughout their life, so we
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: know that, again, there's more to this case, but the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: vast majority of these cases go undocumented, unrecorded, uninvestigated. People
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: have I think the misconception that this is a rare event.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: The more I do this research, the more common I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: think these events are and I'll just briefly again mentioned
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: that in nineteen ninety one, the Roper Organization did a
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: poll which found that one in fifty people show the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: markers of being a UFO contact D. So yeah, far
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: more common than certainly the general public believes. Here's another
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: case which speaks to that point. This one is really unusual.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I call this one taken to another planet. This is
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the onboard UFO encounter of Densieur Goez. This one occurred
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: in June of nineteen sixty seven in Surundi, Brazil, and
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: again a fully conscious onboard experience with some a really
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: unusual type of et human looking but not quite and
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: the events that this gentleman experienced on board this craft
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: are also really unusual. It was around nine pm one
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: evening in June nineteen sixty seven that a handyman by
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the name of Durcieux Goes you can see him here,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: was walking to his home on the outskirts of the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: town of Sarandi. This is located in Rio grandeo Sule, Brazil.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: This is when his life changed forever. He was at
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the intersection of a road leading to Palmerra dos Misos,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: who was only about six hundred feet from his home,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: very close when he saw this glowing sphere about six
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: hundred feet away and about one hundred feet off the ground.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: But very quickly it descended to a height of about
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: thirty feet right in front of him, sent down this
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: beam of light to the ground right next to him,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and to his amazement, two small beings descended down this
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: beam of light in a very interesting way that kind
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: of spiraled down this beam of light a short distance
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: from it. Were not human as we would think of it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: They were three feet tall. They had round human looking faces,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: blue eyes, straight red hair, a normal nose and mouth.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: He noticed they had teeth. They wore gray suits that
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: wrapped all the way down to their feet, went right
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: up to a high collar with belts the same color
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: around their waists. They immediately approached him past some kind
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of quote ribbon under his arms. He was stunned and helpless,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: unable to resist as he found himself being drawn up.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: This beam of light threw a round opening into the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: bottom of the craft. He could immediately see that this
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: was very small. In fact, the room, he estimates was
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: maybe four feet nine inches tall, forcing him, who he
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: was five feet two inches, to bend over. He immediately,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you know, it was no bigger than the truck cab,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: is how he put it. He said. The light inside
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: this room constantly pulsated to a blinding brightness to a
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: dim darkness, which made it difficult for him to focus.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: He was immediately met by a third occupant inside this craft,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: who led him promptly to a short, single pedestal stool
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: about one foot high, and then pulled off this ribbon
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: like device that had brought him in. It was at
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: this moment that a light came down from the ceiling
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: of the cabin down through the still open hole in
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the floor, and the two crew members who had met
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: him were still on the ground. They rose up this
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: beam of light again in this weird spiraling motion, keeping
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: their eyes on the beam as they had when they descended.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Now inside the craft, they began to speak verbally to
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: each other and sometimes to him, in the language he
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: was unable to understand, but he did say they had
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: very pleasant voices. He says, he was in the craft
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: for a good three hours. He could see there was
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: nothing in there really except this small window and a panel.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: This small window next to him was dark. But after
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: about three hours, looking out, he saw that it was
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: daylight outside, and looking outside he saw something amazing, a strange,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: apparently alien looking city with tall buildings and dark forests.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: He saw this just briefly when this window went dark again.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Three more hours passed. Was during this time that the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: ETS did show them this illuminated panel on the wall,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and as at the end of the three hours, they
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: show this panel lit up and it showed strange vehicles
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and humanoids who appeared to be looking at him. So
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: much of the ETS conversation did seem to center around
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: this panel, and when they got back to where he
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: had been taken craft lower to about nine feet above
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: the ground. The witness was wrapped up in the weird
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: ribbon like device again and let down to the ground
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to about one foot. The ribbon unraveled from his body
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: and went up into the craft. The door closed and
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the craft flew away at an angle, disappearing in mere seconds.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: The witness was so unnerved, so weakened by his experience,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: that he lay on the ground for about ten minutes
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: before he was able to get up. He felt a
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: very strong urge to urinate and was shocked when only
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: air came out at first. He then was able to
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: urinate normally, but this strange condition lasted for a few days.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: For one week following his encounter, he did suffer from fever, weakness,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: and severe diarrhea. He remained bedridden, He lost considerable weight.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: He said headaches and weakness persisted for a full month.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: He stayed at home to recuperate, did not seek medical attention.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: How amazing is that there are a surprisingly large number
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: of cases where people claim to have been taken to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: another planet beyond Earth. That this is something like this
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: is almost impossible to prove, and again, this is a
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: single witness case. He did have some pretty pronounced medical effects,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: which certainly point towards the credibility of his case. To me,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: it's the huge number of cases with remarkable commonalities that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: provide the best proof that something very profound is going
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: on here. I'm absolutely convinced people are being taken on
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: board craft and as you may know, I had my
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: own experience with this, and having talked to so many
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people who have I am way beyond convinced
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: that this is going on. There are just too many
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: cases of people who report this. Because here is another
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I call this next case, they looked like insects. The
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: onboard UFO encounter of Bill and Nora. This is a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: super compelling case because it was very thoroughly investigated. It
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: is a multiple witness case. It's got all kinds of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: really interesting details to it. This one occurred in June
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty nine in Salt Lake City, Utah, and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: again not a very well known case, but certainly deserves
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: to be. This case comes from researcher Jerome Clark, who
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: did publish it in the Flying Saucer Review, and he
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: calls it quote a story that until fairly recently even
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: youthologists would have dismissed as unbelievable. But as he says,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: there is no doubt in my mind that the witnesses
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: gave me a straightforward, honest account of what happened to them,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: at least as they understood it. The name of the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: article in the Flying Saucer Review is a Weird Encounter
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: in Utah. This case involves three witnesses. We first knew
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: them as Bill and Nora, but we now know their
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: names to be Wendell Meyer and Nancy Jensen, a young
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: couple that Jerome Clark describes as quote hippies. Turns out
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: he actually knew them as acquaintances from college. Also in
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: this case involves their two year old son, Erin. The
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: witnesses had left their homes in Moorhead, Minnesota, and were
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: traveling to California on vacation. It was around one a m.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: One evening in June of nineteen sixty nine. They were
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: traveling westbound southwest of Salt Lake City when something very
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: unusual happened. As Wendell says, all of a sudden, it
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: was like I woke up. In fact, his last memory
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: consciously had been seeing the lights of Salt Lake City,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: but waking up, he saw that the car was traveling
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: at ninety miles per hour, and he was unable to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: prevent himself from hitting a white post, and then in
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: succession three other white posts. This accident, of course, stopped
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: the car and the car was damaged. It had a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: flat tire, a broken shock absorber, a broken turn signal.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: There was a small dent on the bumper, which the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: witnesses felt was quite strange because they really felt like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: there should have been more damage given how fast they
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: were going. So Wendell proceeded to change the tire, and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: he said that while he did so, he had a
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: very strange feeling that they were being watched. Nancy took
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: the wheel. They drove a short distance when Nancy began
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: to get an uncomfortable feeling that they were being followed,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and looking in the rear view mirror, she saw yellow
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: and white lights. She thought it was a car at first,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: didn't think much of it until she noticed that they
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: were on the wrong side of the highway. So she
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: told Wendell, and both of them watched this object, these
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: lights until suddenly they moved off to the left and
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: were gone. Now this was strange because there was no
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: turn off that they had noticed there. So they began
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: to move into an a mountainous area, and this is
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: when Wendell looked up and saw what appeared to be
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: the same lights, the same object, and he turned to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Nancy and said, it's in the air now now. Nancy
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: later told researcher Drome Clark quote, that's when we started
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: getting paranoid. So strangely, this object began to pace their
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: car at an even distance behind them. It then suddenly
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: flew to within a few hundred feet, close enough that
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: they could hear a quote faint humming sound. They said.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: This object was almost fish shaped, with a flat bottom,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: what looked like a fin on the back, had a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: red light on top, a dome in front, and it
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: was so bright that it nearly blinded them. This point
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: they both felt quote funny vibrations moving through their bodies.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Their two year old son, Aaron, began to cry. Nancy
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: later said that it was as if her whole body
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: became numb. Then weirdly, the back window opened one inch
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: by itself and then closed a again by itself. Their
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: little baby Errant stopped crying. Now panicked, they floored the accelerator,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: but the car, which had been going seventy, dropped down
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: to sixty, and Wendell told Nancy, oh, christ, it's going
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: to get us. But the UFO suddenly backed off, so
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: shortly later they turned off into a rest area, and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the object also stopped and hovered in near silence just
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the highway. They didn't notice
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: a white camper at the rest stop with its lights on,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: so Nancy suggested that Wendell go and informed them of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the UFO, but Wendell felt uneasy about it, and it
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: was shortly later that they both saw a quote ghostly
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: face peering at them from the camper window. They later
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: said it was quote bony, peculiar, not quite human. In fact,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Wendell would later recall it as having sort of an
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: egg shaped head, a pointed chin, wrap around eyes, very
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: much a description of a gray et. But events escalated
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: when suddenly Wendell gasped and pointed towards this strange, glowing
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: figure that was approaching them from the opposite side of
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: the highway where the UFO was hovering. He said it
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: was somewhat reminiscent of a big snowman with a big
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: round body. He drew it. As you can see, it
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: did have arms and legs, but it was moving slowly
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: towards them Weirdly. Nancy couldn't see it, so Wendell told
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: her to turn on the headlights, which she did, at
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: which point the figure seemed to disappear. When she turned
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: off the headlights, Wendell got a huge shock because he
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: could see this figure again, and it was now much
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: closer to him. Well. Nancy says she didn't see it,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: as she told researchers, quote, I was trying so hard
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: to keep my sanity maybe I didn't want to see it,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: so there's some confusion going on. At this point, they
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: were very frightened. They pulled back on the highway immediately
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: positioned themselves between two cars. Because this object continued to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: follow them, Nancy started to feel an extreme quote mental strain.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: She could barely keep awake, so they had to pull
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: over so Wendall could drive, but Wendell had the same problem,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: so they kept continually, having to switch drivers a few times,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: and the UFO continued to show up and pace their car. Weirdly,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: they could not get the car to go faster than
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: fifty five miles per hour. Finally, they did reach a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: small town. They pulled into a gas station and the UFO,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: which had been close to their car, flew up and
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: seemed to mimic a star. Wendell did point it out
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: to the gas station attendant, who said something very interesting.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: He said, quote some drunk fired at a flying saucer yesterday,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: and he kind of chuckled. So they got back on
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the hid highway and this UFO dropped down again and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: continued to pace their car. It would back off when
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: other cars would approach, but move closer when they were alone.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: On the road. Finally, as daylight came the highway became
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: busy with cars. The UFO backed off and up, and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: when daylight actually arrived, it moved off into the clouds
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: over a mountain and was gone. So both Nancy and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Wendell were exhausted. Actually, I had to pull off on
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: the side of the road to sleep for two hours.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: High strangeness wasn't over yet. At eight thirty am, they
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: got back on the highway past what appeared to be
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the same camper they had seen at the rest stop.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: So curious, Nancy looked over at it and screamed, and
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: she says, Wendell, those people don't have any heads. She
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: later elaborated and said that she saw the dim outline
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: of heads and a weird cheshire cat like grins. It
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: looked to them to her rather that these figures were
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: wearing black leather suits. Now Wendell didn't see this. He
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: was driving. He was skeptical and said, you're just shaken up.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I'll slow down and we'll let the camper pass us.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: Then we'll know for sure. So he slowed down. They
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: went around a corner, but the camper never appeared around
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: the corner. It just seemed to have disappeared, which again
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: was weird because there were no exits there in the highway.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: They proceeded to enter another small town and were very
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: spooked to see that not one person was visible in
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: the whole town. Plenty of parked cars, but not one
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: living person. As Wendell said, it was like stepping into
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: the twilight zone. So they left. One month later, there
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: was another sighting. The car broke down about fifteen miles
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: north of Moorhead, Minnesota, where they lived, and window did
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: see another UFO with red, green and blue lights that
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: he says quote didn't fit the form of an airplane.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: He said, the object moved across the highway, circled around them,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: moved closer and closer, stopped and vanished. So back at home,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: weird things started to happen. Wendells has a hooded, faceless
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: figure appeared out of nowhere, lunged at him, and disappeared.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: The same thing happened to Nancy while she was scrubbing
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: the kitchen floor, got a trembling feeling, turned around, saw
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: this weird faceless, hooded figure which jumped at her. Wendells
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: started to get paranoid that he was being followed. He
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: saw the same hooded figure twice more, he thought, once
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: on his lunch break at work, and once sitting in
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: the back seat of his car. In February of nineteen seventy,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: he was in a hospital room resting from a quote
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: minor ailment when this figure appeared again, Only this time
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: he could see that it had long, thin fingers. He
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: felt like I was trying to communicate with him, but
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: he did not want anything to do with it. So
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Jerome Clark's article on the Flying Saucer Review was written
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy, just a few months after all of
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: this occurred, but it was five years later that he
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: arranged for the couple to go under hypnosis. He used
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: a hypnotist who was skeptical of UFOs. Despite this going
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: under hypnosis, both Wendell and Nancy did recall being taken
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: on board a craft. Jerome Clark told the story in d.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Scott Rogo's book Alien Abductions, in a chapter called The
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Abduction. There were six hypnosis sessions, two for Nancy
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: and Wendel had four under hypnosis. Nancy recalled that after
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: they had parked the rest stop, she was actually floated
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: up out of the car through the windshield into the UFO.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Inside this craft, she says she saw twenty short humanoids
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: with white skin, oversized heads, and large green insect like eyes.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: As he says, they looked like insects like grasshop. She
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: said they wore white uniforms. They seemed to communicate among
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: each other with a quote buzzing or mumbling. She said
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: the room was white circular. She did see a strange
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: curved panel with weird instruments on it. She actually believes
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: that perhaps the ets may have lifted her out of
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: her physical body into the craft and afterwards placed her
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: back in her body. Perhaps this is because she was
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: puzzled to move through the car window at any rate.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: That was her impression. But Wendell, who knew nothing of
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: what Nancy had recalled under hypnosis, first recalled seeing a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: figure through the dome of the craft. He also recalled
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: being floated up from the car at the rest stop
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: into a quote round room, he said, at a clear
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: dome on top. He actually sees the sky through this dome,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: like Nancy. He saw a panel with strange gauges and dials.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Like Nancy, He said the room was filled with this weird,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: foggy white light, and like Nancy, he said he saw
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: a group of quote little people. He described him as
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: having big heads, no hair, small round mouths, little noses,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: and like Nancy, very big green eyes and wearing white uniforms.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: As he says, they looked strange. They looked like insects. He,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: like Nancy, described, was also placed in a chair where
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: he couldn't move. Neither Nancy or Wendell ever saw each other,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: so they were apparently in separate rooms. But Wendell said
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: the eties communicated telepathically with him and could read his mind,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: and each time they did so it made him feel tired.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: They seemed to cluster around a large device in the room,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: which was somehow related to his examination. He would study it,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: and the beings did not want him to look at
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: them and what they were doing. They began to do
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: something to his body, and at this point he felt unconscious,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: and when he woke up he was not only back
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: in the car, the car was now moving down the highway.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: His impression was that this whole experience lasted about twenty
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: to thirty minutes. Now per Jerome Clark, the hypnotist was
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: severely shaken by this and ultimately pulled out did not
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: want to do any more sessions, and the witnesses felt
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: the same way. The hypnotists did insert a post hypnotic
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: suggestion that both Wendell and Nancy would forget the sessions,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: so they had no memory of the onboard segment and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: at first actually refused to listen to the tapes, but
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: some years later, after meeting with researcher Leo Sprinkle, he
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: reassured them and had them listen to the tapes so
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: they were able to recall what had happened to them.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: That case is in many ways a fairly standard onboard
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: UFO encounter where people were taking on board and examined
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: by your typical gray type ets. I did find the
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: detail that they had striking green eyes quite interesting because
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: that is something I've heard from a number of witnesses.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: And while hypnosis was used in this case, the many
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: many details that match up between the two witnesses, who
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: did not communicate with each other because again the hypnotists
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: basically gave them the suggestion not to remember their encounters,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: so they didn't know what the other person had recalled,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and yet these details match up to an incredible degree
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: that pretty much makes the explanation of collusion or hoaxing
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: almost impossible. In fact, the investigators involved in this case
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: were absolutely convinced. So well respected investigators too, I think.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: And again, if it were just one case, or even
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: ten or a hundred, you could probably dismiss them more easily.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: But it's thousands upon thousands. Here's another one. I like
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: this case because it was very much benevolent. Again, a
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: very strong spiritual aspect to it. I know researchers who
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: have actually edited censored out spiritual aspects of people's encounters
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: in an attempt to reduce this to sort of nuts
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: and bolts phenomena and make it more believable. I think
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: that's a mistake. We really need to look at all
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: the evidence if we want to solve the mystery of UFOs,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: if you can even call it that at this point.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: But more importantly, we need all the pieces of the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: puzzle to really figure out what's going on here. I
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: call this next case. The feeling I had was one
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: of understanding the onboard UFO encounter of Luke. Again, unfortunately
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: this is a pseudonym. The witness wanted to remain anonymous,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: and you can't blame them given the high hostility that
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: many people who do report this a go public receive
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: from those that they share their experience with. This one
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: occurred in November of nineteen seventy one in Hillsboro, Kansas.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Tiny little town, but a certainly really compelling case because
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: it's the fully conscious on board experience also which occurred
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: during daylight, which is somewhat rare but absolutely not unique,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: as we've seen in this compilation alone. The only real
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: source of information for this case comes from a newspaper
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: article by John Rowe in the Wichita, Kansas Beacon newspaper,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: but the encounter was apparently investigated by researcher Richard Palacios,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: who John Rowe calls quote the Johnny Appleseed of UFO Sightings.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Could not locate the investigator, but the sole witness is
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: anonymous and is known only as Luke. He's described as
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: a college student majoring in English, a poet, and, as
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Richard Pelasio says, just your average guy. The exact time
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: of the encounter is unknown, other than it occurred in
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: November of nineteen seventy one. Luke was driving near Hillsborough, Kansas.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: This is a small town with a population of about
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: twenty five hundred people. When he saw a bright silver
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: saucer shaped craft zoomed down out of the sky and
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: hover about twelve feet above the ground over a field
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: alongside the road. Luke immediately pulled his car over to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: look at it, and he was curious, so he walked
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: right up to this craft, and as soon as he did,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: a hatch opened a ramp came out leading to the ground.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Two beings walked out. He said that they were four
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: and a half feet tall, very much human like faces,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: but large bald heads. Both wore white robes. They immediately
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: began to communicate with Luke telepathically, giving him a feeling
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: giving him a feeling of calmness and security. He found
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: himself able to talk with them mentally telepathically and asked
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: them if they could stay and let him go inside
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: the craft, and they agreed. The e t He's guided
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Luke up the ramp and into the craft. He said
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: it had a shiny acrylic like floor a very brightly
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: lit ceiling. He saw what look like computer banks lined
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: up against one wall. There was a control panel with
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: five rows of four buttons each, and next to the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: panel was a window and two high backed chairs that
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: were somehow supported by invisible swivels which faced these panels.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: This visit was quite short, apparently limited to this very
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: brief tour of the craft, which Luke said was entirely benevolent.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: When asked if he had any fear at all during
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: this experience, he said, not at all. I was shocked,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: but never worried. The overall feeling I had was one
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: of warmth and understanding, and in fact, following this experience,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Luke began having psychic experiences, such as seeing auras around
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: people and having out of body experiences which allowed him,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: he says, to have contact with other interdimensional beings that
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: he says are quote difficult to explain. And as it
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: turns out, this is not the first time Hillsborough has
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: been visited, because it was four years earlier. On March
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: twenty first, nineteen sixty seven, a very close encounter involving
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: strange electromagnetic effects caught the attention of researchers Coral and
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Jim Lorenzen. On that night, one mile west of Hillsboro,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: just off US Highway fifty six, Mary Beth Neufeld and
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: several of her girlfriends were driving when they saw a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: brilliant light in the sky. This puzzled them because it
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: was a very cloudy night no stars were visible through
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the cloud cover. But on a lark, they drove towards
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: this light, and as if in response, this light flashed
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: back at them and then moved directly towards them. As
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: it got close, they could see it was a flat
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: pancake shaped craft with a dome on top, like quote
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: an upside down cup. In seconds, the subject was directly
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: over their car, which quote started rocking real bad. Everyone
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: in the car became understandably alarmed, especially when the car
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: engine stalled. After several seconds, the object left as quickly
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: as it arrived. The car started up again, and the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: frightened witnesses drove straight into Hillsboro to report their encounter.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Pretty interesting, doesn't it all surprise me that this witness
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: started reporting out of body experiences in telepathic contact with
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: the ets following his encounter, Because that is actually a
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: very prominent pattern that I think when we don't hear
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: about it might not be reported, but is in fact present.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Because again, some of these details often do get censored
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: out of people's accounts, which just such a shame, because
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: it's super interesting and I think a very important detail.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: This points towards one of the et agendas of waking
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: us up to our own abilities. I think this is
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons people are contacted. They're trying to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: wake us up to all these what we would call
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: supernatural abilities that we have, not just telepathy and clairvoyance,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: but astral projection, remote viewing, mediumship healing, so much more so.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: It's an important detail that we should not overlook in
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: my humble opinion. Now let's move to the last and
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: final case in this collection, which I call an insectoid
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: praying mantis, the onboard UFO encounter of June, and we're
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: dealing with a person who wants to remain anonymous. So
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: kudos to everyone who has had the courage to use
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: their real name. That is happening more and more as
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: skepticism and disbelief in ridicule is falling by the wayside,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: still have a lot of work to do, as this
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: case shows, which is a fairly recent case. This occurred
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: in August fifteen, nineteen ninety seven, in West Palm Beach, Florida.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: It's an important case because, as we'll see. This person
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: was taken on border craft in a pretty crowded location,
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  Speaker 1: and as researchers will tell you, this kind of experience
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  Speaker 1: can really occur pretty much anywhere. The final case in
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  Speaker 1: this little compilation was investigated by Florida Mufon Group Miami
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  Speaker 1: sky Scan. It occurred around eight pm on August fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, to a woman known only as June.
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  Speaker 1: She had just left her friend's house in the Lake
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  Speaker 1: Park area of West Palm Beach, Florida, when suddenly she
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  Speaker 1: noticed a strange, heavy darkness around her vehicle. It got
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  Speaker 1: so dark that the street lights themselves seemed diffused and
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  Speaker 1: dimmer than normal. She continued to drive, but this weird
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  Speaker 1: effect increased. Finally, she was approaching the traffic light at
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  Speaker 1: Park Avenue by the railroad crossing you can see it here.
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  Speaker 1: She was puzzled to see three cars were stopped on
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  Speaker 1: each side of the intersection, as if the light was
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  Speaker 1: red on all sides. That was weird. She also noticed
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  Speaker 1: this weird, strange dark tunnel effect on Park Avenue itself.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, by this time, the weird darkness had turned
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  Speaker 1: the street lights, she says, into quote pinpricks of light
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  Speaker 1: so after what seemed like a long time, the light
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  Speaker 1: turned green. June had no choice but to drive into
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  Speaker 1: this weird tunnel of darkness, and by now the darkness
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  Speaker 1: was so pervasive that she was not only having trouble
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  Speaker 1: seeing the street itself, but the instruments on her car dashboard.
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  Speaker 1: So she slowed way down, crept down the street. Finally,
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  Speaker 1: she arrived home, badly frightened by this weird, inexplicable experience,
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  Speaker 1: only to find that this drive, which normally took fifteen minutes,
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  Speaker 1: had taken forty five minutes. So that's a full half
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  Speaker 1: hour of missing time, which couldn't be explained by the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she was driving a little slowly. But later
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  Speaker 1: having other encounters, she agreed to go under hypnosis to
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  Speaker 1: recall what happened during the missing half hour, and under hypnosis,
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  Speaker 1: she recalled an onboard experience. She was taken back to
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  Speaker 1: the moment when she approached the intersection of Park Avenue
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  Speaker 1: by the railroad crossing, and suddenly, she says, this bright
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  Speaker 1: light was all around her. June found herself disoriented, unable
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  Speaker 1: to move, and the next thing she knows, she's in
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  Speaker 1: a strange room with quote shadows all around her. She
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  Speaker 1: said this room had curved walls that glowed with a
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  Speaker 1: green light. This included both the floor and the ceiling,
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  Speaker 1: but it did look metallic, almost like platinum. She said
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  Speaker 1: she could smell an unpleasant odor in the air. She
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  Speaker 1: had difficulty breathing, but looking across the room, she saw
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  Speaker 1: strange little people looking at her. So she focused on
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  Speaker 1: one of them and saw that he looked like an
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  Speaker 1: insectoid praying mantis, about four feet tall, very skinny body,
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  Speaker 1: two holes for a nose, a beak, collect protrusion on
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  Speaker 1: his face where the mouth is, large dark eyes, and
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  Speaker 1: what looked like antenna coming out of his head. He
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  Speaker 1: wore a skin tight gray jumpsuit with a belt. He
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  Speaker 1: had four fingers on each hand, and in one of
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  Speaker 1: his hands he held a thin rod, bright and shiny,
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  Speaker 1: about a foot long, with a light at the end.
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  Speaker 1: The being preceeded to touch June all over her body.
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  Speaker 1: He placed the rod either on or in her body.
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  Speaker 1: She yelled at him to stop. She said she has
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  Speaker 1: no memory of any pain or being hurt, so that's good.
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  Speaker 1: But the next thing she knew she was driving through
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  Speaker 1: this weird tunnel again. She remembered opening the car door
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  Speaker 1: to see if she could see the street, but she
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  Speaker 1: couldn't see it. She let her foot off the car's clutch.
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  Speaker 1: The car didn't sway at all. She actually felt like
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  Speaker 1: the car was floating because she could not feel the
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  Speaker 1: road underneath her car. She did recall seing the dimness
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  Speaker 1: of the street lights and finally recalled making it home.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty interesting. It makes me wonder what's so important that
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  Speaker 1: this person was basically pulled from the city street when
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  Speaker 1: other cars were around. Don't know, It's hard to say
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  Speaker 1: what exactly the purpose for all of this is. It
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  Speaker 1: appeared to be a pretty brief encounter. She was being
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  Speaker 1: physically examined, gonna. I know in fact that this case
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  Speaker 1: is not a one off. She does report other encounters,
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  Speaker 1: so there is more to this case, certainly, but a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting one because you did describe praying mantis type ets,
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  Speaker 1: which while are consistently reported, are not super common by far.
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  Speaker 1: People report some variation of grays. Next would be I
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  Speaker 1: think human looking tall whites, little blue beings, but praying
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  Speaker 1: mantis are definitely in there and strange humanoids as we've
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  Speaker 1: seen of all types. I mean that case from Argentina,
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  Speaker 1: how strange is that short, little three foot beings that
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  Speaker 1: looked human, that had straight red hair and bright blue
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  Speaker 1: eyes really unusual. Each of these cases has something to
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  Speaker 1: teach us. And again, if it were just one or two,
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  Speaker 1: easy to dismiss. But there's thousands upon thousands. There's no
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  Speaker 1: doubt that there is something going on here. It's a
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  Speaker 1: logical progression if you think about it. So many sightings,
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  Speaker 1: millions of documented sightings is piloting these things. UFOs do
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  Speaker 1: have contents. They're just not empty shells, as we can
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  Speaker 1: tell because not only from the reports of these craft
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  Speaker 1: landing and humanoids getting out, but particularly these onboard encounters
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  Speaker 1: and frankly the reports of UFO crash retrievals. So my
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  Speaker 1: point is it's a logical progression. What's going on here.
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  Speaker 1: The sightings and the landings and the face to face
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  Speaker 1: humid encounters all lend credence to the fact that people
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  Speaker 1: are also being taken on board. I do wish this
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  Speaker 1: subject was more accepted, that we could put more funds
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  Speaker 1: towards this, that it would be studied by a lot
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  Speaker 1: more people with a lot more tools to study it.
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  Speaker 1: But until that time, I'm going to continue doing this research.
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  Speaker 1: I think ultimately that the day of disclosure will come,
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  Speaker 1: our governments will ever willingly disclose or fully be truthful
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  Speaker 1: and transparent. I highly doubt it, in fact. But on
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  Speaker 1: the other hand, I feel like disclosure is inevitable for
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  Speaker 1: one simple reason. UFOs are real, ets are real, and
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  Speaker 1: you simply cannot hide the truth forever. I mean, you
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: can hide it, you can distort it, you can ignore it,
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  Speaker 1: but you can never destroy it. Truth is truth, and
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  Speaker 1: sooner or later it's going to come out. And also,
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  Speaker 1: I think sooner or later we're gonna have open official contact.
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  Speaker 1: We kind of practically already have. I mean, we know
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  Speaker 1: governments across the world have had official contact, but they're
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  Speaker 1: just keeping quiet about it. And how many people have
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  Speaker 1: to have contact before we say this is really happening,
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  Speaker 1: that disclosure is already a done deal. When I continue
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  Speaker 1: doing this research until this subject goes fully mainstream and
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  Speaker 1: focus maybe on something else, we'll see at any rate.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you found this episode interesting, hope you learned something.
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  Speaker 1: I really want to thank you guys for watching. It's
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  Speaker 1: because of you I do this research and put out
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  Speaker 1: these episodes. So thank you, thank you, thank you, And
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  Speaker 1: until next time, keep searching for the truth. It's up
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  Speaker 1: to you. Our government's not gonna share it. Keep asking
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: those hard questions. All of us, I think, have a
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  Speaker 1: personal responsibility to remove ourselves from delusion and ignorance and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: walk down this pathway towards wisdom, enlightenment, and love. And
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: last of all, keep having fun, because if you're not
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: having fun, probably a good idea to do things differently.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's why we're here. So yeah, thank
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  Speaker 1: you again. I will see you next episode and be well.