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SKINFLINT: Africa’s Heavy Metal Trailblazers · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm joseeppas Brana and I play guitar vocal sports
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  Speaker 1: skim Flint.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Kivon. I played the bass guitar for
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  Speaker 2: skin Flint. Hi, my name is Cosmos. I played drums
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  Speaker 2: for skin Flint.
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  Speaker 3: Wonderful, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Guys.
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  Speaker 5: Can you tell us a bit about how skin Flint
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  Speaker 5: started and where the name came from.
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  Speaker 1: The name didn't really have any meaning behind it, It
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  Speaker 1: just sounded good at the time skim Flint started back
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and six to the end of two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and six early zero seven. The idea behind Skimplint
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  Speaker 1: was to incorporate elements from African culture into the music.
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  Speaker 4: Because a lot of the.
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  Speaker 1: Stories and myths that we've seen about is about our
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  Speaker 1: experiences growing up in Africa, and most of those tales
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  Speaker 1: have not been covered by Western media. So growing up
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  Speaker 1: in Africa and Botswana, there was so many stories because
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  Speaker 1: Africa so rich in history, mythology, and most of these
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  Speaker 1: stories have never been covered in Western media.
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  Speaker 4: So that was the main idea behind skin Plint.
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  Speaker 1: He said, We're going to tell these stories about Botswana,
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  Speaker 1: about Africa, mostly the darker side of African mythology and
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  Speaker 1: we used metal to do this because metal is a
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  Speaker 1: platform that breaks stereotypes, it breaks the boundaries, so it
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  Speaker 1: allowed us this expression of freedom to do what we
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  Speaker 1: try to do.
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  Speaker 5: And how have you guys been received in Africa doing that?
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  Speaker 3: You know through music over there?
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  Speaker 1: It's been quite a challenge, especially in the beginning when
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  Speaker 1: we used to play because a lot of people didn't
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  Speaker 1: understand what we were trying to do. But I think
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  Speaker 1: it's challenging in many facts. That's not just for rock
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  Speaker 1: and metal bands in Africa because first of all, the
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  Speaker 1: distances of the bends in Africa don't have as much
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  Speaker 1: opportunities as bands would have in Europe or in the US.
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  Speaker 1: For instances like, for example, we don't have any vans
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  Speaker 1: use in Botswana that supports our kind of music, so
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  Speaker 1: it's a very do it yourself punk kind of attitude.
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  Speaker 4: So the bands have to come together.
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  Speaker 1: We have to have our own stages, our own sound,
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  Speaker 1: build our own PIS system.
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  Speaker 4: And put up our own shows.
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  Speaker 1: So it's quite a challenge for us there because like
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  Speaker 1: I said, there's nobody who really supports the music, but
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  Speaker 1: they are fans. We have very dedicated lawyer fans in
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  Speaker 1: Botswana and all the hard work it's worth it once
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  Speaker 1: we get on stage to do this for them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely. So is there not a big metal
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  Speaker 5: scene as well in Africa? Like what was that like
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  Speaker 5: starting out in the music scene there?
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  Speaker 3: But also the metal scene.
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  Speaker 6: The metal scene was not that prominent.
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  Speaker 4: It was a bit.
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  Speaker 7: Not well received. There were a few fans that was
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  Speaker 7: big when you started. But before us we had bands
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  Speaker 7: like News the Road and Meta Hourizing. We're doing that
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  Speaker 7: in the eighties and the nineties there. And then when
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  Speaker 7: we came in, we came in with because they were
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  Speaker 7: playing about like a softwaw, you know, So we came
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  Speaker 7: in with heavy metal and it was very very heavy
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  Speaker 7: in the beginning. So with time we kept on persisting
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  Speaker 7: and right now.
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  Speaker 6: I can say that there's a big, big change.
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  Speaker 7: The metal scenes has improved a little bit, but it's
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  Speaker 7: still underground, like just like when we come to America.
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  Speaker 6: But the difference is that.
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  Speaker 7: Our population is very low, so our underground scene will
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  Speaker 7: be will have a less attendance compared to underground scene
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  Speaker 7: in America where the population is like thousands of millions
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  Speaker 7: of millions of people. Yeah, so that is the bigger difference.
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  Speaker 7: I would say, but if we had so much population,
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  Speaker 7: our underground scene will be bigger and we'll be doing
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  Speaker 7: very well. But I can say right now we have
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  Speaker 7: made a very very big impact on the scene ever
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  Speaker 7: since we came for this past seventeen years, not only
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  Speaker 7: in Sawana, but in Southern Africa and Africa as a whole.
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  Speaker 6: That is why right now we are here in America
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  Speaker 6: as well.
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  Speaker 7: He can show you how far we come from and
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  Speaker 7: the impact that we made in Africa, and so far
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  Speaker 7: we have.
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  Speaker 6: We have also lives following in.
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  Speaker 7: The US in the past five years that we've been here,
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  Speaker 7: so I think we are getting some way.
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  Speaker 5: Ye, definitely. I've noticed that your fans are from every
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  Speaker 5: corner of the globe. Really, you've got fans everywhere. When
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  Speaker 5: I look on your YouTube video is a lot of comments.
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  Speaker 5: They're from Italy, Canada, everywhere. It's amazing. Do you think
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  Speaker 5: you guys will ever come to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would love to play in Australia. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I had so many great things about it. But you
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  Speaker 1: must hook us up, hook us up. We'll be on
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  Speaker 1: the next plane.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be there.
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  Speaker 6: I thought you're in the US from the us.
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  Speaker 4: We would love to come, love to come to Australia.
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  Speaker 4: We would love that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah awesome.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of fans here that I think We've
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  Speaker 5: got quite a big metal scene here and we have
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  Speaker 5: a few good metal bands ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we'd.
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  Speaker 5: Be really interested in seeing you guys from a different
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  Speaker 5: such a different culture.
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  Speaker 3: It'd be amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we would love to come there. We are ready anytime.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Can you talk about the themes and track names of
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  Speaker 5: the songs on Skin Flint's latest album Baloi.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I said.
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  Speaker 4: That right, That is correctly BYLLOI that's correct?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, Baloi It means witches in Schwana from Botswana,
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  Speaker 1: So the concept of baloi was most of the stories
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  Speaker 1: were told based on the mythology and the history and
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  Speaker 1: tradition of Botswana. Like let's take one, so for example,
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  Speaker 1: that's called Lenzola Barattani. There's a very famous here in
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  Speaker 1: Botswana called Lenzola Baratani, which translates to love us here.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a story about two lovers who wanted to
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  Speaker 1: get married, but the tribe forbidted them from getting married.
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  Speaker 1: So the two lovers they escape to the heel and
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  Speaker 1: they never returned because they were they were you know,
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  Speaker 1: abandoned by the tribe, you know, like cast away because
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to get married. So those two lovers, they
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  Speaker 1: they are said to have disappeared in the heel. So
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  Speaker 1: even today people are quite superstitious about the hell. They
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  Speaker 1: believe that the two lovers they are owned in the here.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of mystery behind the hero, maybe like
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  Speaker 1: there's a big snake that eats you on that here,
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  Speaker 1: so nobody really points at the hero or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's one of the stories the el Paratani. And
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  Speaker 1: then we have others like Sangoma some Goma blood magic.
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  Speaker 1: Sangoma is all over Africa. I mean some Gooma can
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  Speaker 1: be ahila, it can be something spiritual, or it can
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  Speaker 1: also be about witch crops.
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  Speaker 4: So in this song is more about.
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  Speaker 1: Witch crop, about taking souls and putting them into bowls
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  Speaker 1: and fetishes. So all of these stories are they're very
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  Speaker 1: important to us, a very big part of Skimplint. As
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  Speaker 1: you can see, all of our album, we've all ys
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  Speaker 1: incorporated this African folklore mythology.
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  Speaker 4: Into the music.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's an interesting thing because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people don't know about these stories, and we are
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  Speaker 1: proud of that aspect of our culture because, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: Africa so rich in history and we want to showcase
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  Speaker 1: that part of the culture in the metal world and
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  Speaker 1: on the flat, not just in terms of music, but
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  Speaker 1: we want to share our stories with the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the world and we are happy about doing that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, I think you guys do that really well
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  Speaker 5: in your video clips like Blood Magic and there's another one,
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  Speaker 5: Mask of the Dead as well.
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  Speaker 3: I love that one.
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  Speaker 5: What I learned taught me a lot about the rituals
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  Speaker 5: and things like that, which is awesome. Is there any
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  Speaker 5: myths that you want to dispel about, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: African culture and rituals and.
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  Speaker 3: Things like that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if it's probably I think it's well, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you know, you take it.
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  Speaker 7: But I think the it's all about what people take
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  Speaker 7: and what people like interpret whatever situation. I think in
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  Speaker 7: every culture there's some means, there's some some conspiracies that
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  Speaker 7: you can say. But what I can tell you is
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  Speaker 7: it depends on what you believe in.
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  Speaker 6: But what you can say is like in Africa, we
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  Speaker 6: also have.
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  Speaker 7: The good side, on the best side, you know, all
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  Speaker 7: these things that are there that we grow up around them,
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  Speaker 7: we see them and uh some some of these like
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  Speaker 7: like you said about that hell that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 7: it's something that you cannot prove if it's right or wrong,
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  Speaker 7: maybe until it happens to you, but it never happened
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  Speaker 7: to us so far, we cannot say it's true or not.
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  Speaker 7: So all these things that they exist, but we cannot
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  Speaker 7: say they're true or that not true. So, like I said,
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  Speaker 7: it's about how you take it. So right now, in
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  Speaker 7: the metal scene, like you said, we we want to
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  Speaker 7: break the boundaries. We want to expose the darker size.
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  Speaker 7: We want to talk about things that are not talked about.
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  Speaker 7: You know, it's not like we believe in them, but
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  Speaker 7: we're just talking about those things that people fear to
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  Speaker 7: talk about them, you know. Yeah, people that you know
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  Speaker 7: you for me like okay, no these things, but you
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  Speaker 7: know we talk about those things.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that's what you can take. It is
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  Speaker 6: about whether you believe in them or you don't believe
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  Speaker 6: in them.
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  Speaker 7: But if it happens to you, maybe it's a personal experience.
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  Speaker 6: You don't know, someone can tell it better that way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think also it's it takes a bit of
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  Speaker 1: courageters about these stories because, like I said, many people
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  Speaker 1: take some of these things very serious in Africa, and
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  Speaker 1: especially when you talk about the churches and people like that.
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  Speaker 1: So they are very much against some of these things.
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  Speaker 1: But we don't care about that. We just want to
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  Speaker 1: tell our stories, go out there and tell the music. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are scared of some of these
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  Speaker 1: stories that we tell, especially locally, because there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that you know, believe to have.
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  Speaker 4: Experienced some of these elements of witchcraft.
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  Speaker 1: But we feel that it's an important aspect of the
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  Speaker 1: culture that we feel that we should talk about and
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  Speaker 1: sing about, and we're going to continue doing what we do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like.
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  Speaker 7: You know what, there's a lot of stories in Africa
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  Speaker 7: that I'm not told that I'm not shared with the world.
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  Speaker 7: But what do you do. We are just the stories
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  Speaker 7: are there for us. You know, it's not like we
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  Speaker 7: are doing music. We just get the stories. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 7: know what, we turn them into or translate them to
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  Speaker 7: English and then also put them in form.
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  Speaker 6: Of music, because are the two businesses that we are doing.
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  Speaker 6: But you know what, it is very rich.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's never indeed all these mysteries and everything
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  Speaker 7: is never ending.
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  Speaker 6: We have them. It's like the rich culture that we have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's so interesting and I think you guys
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  Speaker 5: are amazing for doing that for sure, telling that story.
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  Speaker 5: Not only do you guys play really good music metal music,
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  Speaker 5: but yeah, telling that story amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think of the title?
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  Speaker 5: Some people have labeled you guys as as the heavy
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  Speaker 5: African heavy metal gods.
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  Speaker 1: I think the problem with that title is that, to me,
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  Speaker 1: there's just so many great, great bands in Africa.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and in a.
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  Speaker 1: Way, while we did work very hard, I believe we
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  Speaker 1: worked very hard. I think that there are many, many
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  Speaker 1: great bands in Africa, and it's a bit said that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these bands never get the recognition.
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  Speaker 4: That they deserve.
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  Speaker 1: So I would like to use this opportunity on this
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  Speaker 1: interview to encourage people to go check out the other
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  Speaker 1: metal bands from Africa. There's not just Kimplin. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many great bands from Africa that should check out God YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: check out African metal, check out Botswana metal bands. Coin
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  Speaker 1: search for the bands. We have great bands from Kenya,
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  Speaker 1: from Botswana, from South Africa and African metal gods. Oh well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like we're just people. I mean, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many great bands in Africa, guys, come on go and
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  Speaker 1: check them out.
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  Speaker 5: Oh well, it's nice anyway that people calling you that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: No, I think definitely we need to spotlight more African
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  Speaker 5: bands because if I'm being honest, you guys are the
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  Speaker 5: first African metal band that I've heard of, so and
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  Speaker 5: there's got to be more. There's definitely got to be more.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we've been doing this for long,
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  Speaker 1: so we're one of the first. I mean we've been
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  Speaker 1: doing it for many years, like seventeen years. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: we were the first to put the African mythology with
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  Speaker 1: the music.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that started a bit of a movement.
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  Speaker 1: Like you get other bands like Veil of Ammunition who
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  Speaker 1: are kind of doing a similar thing. We have Arkhan
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  Speaker 1: also which are also doing a similar thing now. So
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  Speaker 1: what I'm what we are really proud about is that
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  Speaker 1: we managed to incorporate an aspect of our culture into
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  Speaker 1: the music.
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  Speaker 4: Whereas before that people were just.
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  Speaker 1: Playing metal and singing about yeah, you know, like talkiing
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  Speaker 1: type fantasy or that kind of thing. But for us,
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to bring this this character to the music
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  Speaker 1: give it a new atmosphere.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why we're happy about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 5: And you guys have had some different band members from
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  Speaker 5: when you first started, and some people have come and left.
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  Speaker 5: What do you think about the guys that you're with now.
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  Speaker 7: He's yeah with us. I mean, he's a great guy.
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  Speaker 7: He'll he'll speak after me. But I think it's a
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  Speaker 7: journey that we went through through pain, through sacrifice, through
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  Speaker 7: a lot of things, you know, but sometimes in life
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  Speaker 7: people tend to choose their own path. All the members
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  Speaker 7: of our previous members were also great members. They've contributed
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  Speaker 7: a lot to the music and they're also shaped the
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  Speaker 7: way we played. So we are here because of our contributions.
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  Speaker 7: I mean every member that we have all the time,
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  Speaker 7: we just take them very seriously and they're very very
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  Speaker 7: important in every.
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  Speaker 6: Aspect of the music.
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  Speaker 7: That because the way we do our music, we all
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  Speaker 7: sit down, we write music, all of us together, so
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  Speaker 7: the contribution is from every other member. But the Costmosis
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  Speaker 7: also a great member to the band. He brought another
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  Speaker 7: dimensions that we we never even expected. The power, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the creativity is it's a whole lot of other things.
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  Speaker 7: I mean all the time we are moving forward. I
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  Speaker 7: think over the years, me and Giusepper, we always set
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  Speaker 7: a higher standard for ourselves. We always put a higher
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  Speaker 7: expectations on us, so we push ourselves to a higher limits,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the things that we never did before. But
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  Speaker 7: even if we get a new member, you know what
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  Speaker 7: we want that person to fit in. I mean, to
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  Speaker 7: move with us, not to go with us we are.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, even if people say that we are the
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  Speaker 7: kings of whatever Apprican metal is that there's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of other behind and stuff or things that we are
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  Speaker 7: doing that people don't know. You know, by the time
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  Speaker 7: you go on stage, is like you know, it's a
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  Speaker 7: stage for us. It's it's like five percent of what
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  Speaker 7: we are doing. Nineteen percent of the work it's done background.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, So yeah, with us, he also face.
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  Speaker 6: Something for himself.
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  Speaker 1: I think like a lot like kibony was saying, is
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  Speaker 1: that the every member Skimplint has done a very big contribution.
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  Speaker 1: Because the Skimplint is all about a band of collaboration.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if my ribs end up on the
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  Speaker 1: album Kibonious rips end up on the album of cosmost
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  Speaker 1: part ends up on the album it does not matter.
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  Speaker 1: What matters is that we choose the best part and
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  Speaker 1: we all collaborate towards that part. So it gets to
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  Speaker 1: the point that I don't even remember which rips I
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  Speaker 1: wrote or he made or something like that, because we
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  Speaker 1: just get in the studio and we start jamming, because
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  Speaker 1: we are a live band before a studio band. To
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I think we sound better live than in
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  Speaker 1: the studios. So that's the even the way we record,
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  Speaker 1: it's done live. We just get in the studio and
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  Speaker 1: start playing live. So that's the approach we have. And
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  Speaker 1: every band member was different, so I tried to like
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  Speaker 1: we changed. If you listen to the old skimplint to
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  Speaker 1: now there's a bit of it's become more aggressive, and
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  Speaker 1: that's because of the spirit of collaboration and that with
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  Speaker 1: other members, we had to print out the best of
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  Speaker 1: their abilagies. So we will play to the strength of
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  Speaker 1: each in the video. Yeah, and with cose Mos over here,
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  Speaker 1: which are passing to him now, he's.
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  Speaker 4: Really really hard, you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's why my years are still ringing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: from the Preva show. Look at you so hard that
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  Speaker 1: we have to crack our hands so loud it's like
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  Speaker 1: Superman on drums. So yeah, he brought the aggression to
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  Speaker 1: the band. So that's why we sound so aggressive.
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  Speaker 5: Now, yeah, that's for me.
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  Speaker 2: Like they've been saying about the previous members and you
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  Speaker 2: know how they want to do things and you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: aiming high and stuff like that, and while I've been
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: skin flinting to be a really good band starting from
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the management himself. So sometimes you forget him out, mister
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: evel Sobrana and you know, going all into us. And
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: then when we talk together like this and we are
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: we are a team. We carry each other and that's
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: the same thing we do in the studio, you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: like he was saying, his real seats sometimes forgets they
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: are his ribs, you know what I mean.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: And we do music together.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: That's what that's the goal, end of the day.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: There's no one who's bigger than the other.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all Yes, that's all right.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: And with the songwriting process as well, is that also
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: a collaborative effort or is it just you just that
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: writes the lyrics?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, the only part that I do alone is the
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: lyrics for the band. But it's not it's not even
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: really alone because like if we go on travel, so
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, like songs like some magic or Litcha Baratani.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Then Kiboni here will tell me, hey, let's make a
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: song about this.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Let's let's do this.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So we can be traveling and we find inspiration on
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the road and we all have a discussion about something
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: and then we write a song about that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So I basically pen the lyrics, but everybody in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: band comes up with ideas of things to sing about
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: to so even the lyrics are everything is collaborative. Every
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: part of skin Play, from the management to the band
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to the whole crew is one big family.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: That's so that's the atmosphere. We care about it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and what about your fans and your audience?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: What are they like?
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: What's the energy like? Are they really receptive to you guys?
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You can ask how audiences back in Botswana they they
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: always have to bring upirestincisure to the stage.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But as always by on stage you know, yeah, you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Know, we must played the show in Botswana and there
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: was a bit of dust on the floor, like not
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: really does but it was like on soil, right, Yeah,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the moment we took on stage, by the time we
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: hit the second song. I was turning my back to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the crowd because I couldn't breathe anymore because there was
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: so much as rising the air.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: From the pits the most.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: In the crowd, so very very very active. Crazy audiences
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: in Botswana so passionate. But here in the US or
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: other pasts, they are a bit more carp yes, a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: bit more carp not that they're not enjoying, but they're
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: observing more. But in Botswana, I think the audiences are
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: more like in South America, you know, very passionate, yeh
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: know how they are in Australia. So we can't compare there,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but we would love to see the audience in Australia,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: hopefully play there one day, or we can.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: We can get pretty wild ourselves and the audience might
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: make you do a traditional thing here which I don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: know if you heard of, but it's called a shoey.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Do you know what a shoe is?
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: No, I'd like to know, is it okay?
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: So it's where someone in the audience or you, you
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: take off your shoe and someone throws it up to you.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: And they pour alcohol in it and you have to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: drink it. It's disgusting.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Shoey if anyone asks you if you want to do yeah,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: we're going to bring that. Yeah, but that's a nice one.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That's a nice We actually have something a bit similar year,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: but it's not done with a jew But you drink
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: from a cow horn.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in a cow horn and the drink from the
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: cow horns. It is a bit different. Yeah, but sure
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: that is, that's on another level. That's totally yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah awesome. And did you want to tell us
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: a little bit more about below this album as well
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: and how it is you've said it's more heavier. Is
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: there anything else that makes it different to your earlier albums?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I think while the sound has gone more heavy and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: more aggressive, I think it still retains the raw sense
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: of what makes Kim plain. And the most important thing
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to us is that when we enter the studio, we
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: don't use any tricks, any cut and paste trickery. We
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: use very very little samples, no samples, no studio tricks,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: because what we want to do we want to capture
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the raw energy of a band plane live in the
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: studio and to us, to us that is very important
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: because if you if you use too many things, then
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: you're musking your humanity, and if you're trying to be perfect,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: then you're lying to your because you yourself, you can't
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: be perfect. So it's that imperfection that I think that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes can relate to even myself. I can relate to
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the imperfections, but if the music will be perfect, then
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I have a problem relating it to it. It sounds
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: a bit plastic, you know, it sounds funny, it sounds fake.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: So the most important thing.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: To us is that raw energy to capture the spirit
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: of a band in the moment playing live.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: That is why we record very quickly.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: We compose very quickly, and as soon as we're in
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the studio, while that the song is still new and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: fresh in us, we let it.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Out because it's it's sort of like a soul to us.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's a very spiritual process that when the song is new,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you are in a certain state of mind. But if
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you play that song many many times over and over
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and over again, you lose that initial energy that you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: had when you first created the song. So while it
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: might sound perfect, you're going to lose that raw edge
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that the song has when it's still fresh. And that's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: what we wanted to do, just make it up plug
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it in and recorded live in the studio. That's how
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: we do it, like you're in the same room with us.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what you hear.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: What you hear on Baloy is exactly the way Skimpin
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: sounds and it's imperfect in many ways. But that's what
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: we are proud about, the fact that we have the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: cottage to do that. Yeah, especially in this day and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: age where everything is becoming digital and overproduced. I think
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it's it's gives a fresh perspective, something different to Matrow
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and I think that's that's very important to us.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: And you can tell that, you guys, even though you
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: may go in there and just record live, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: and not change so much, you guys still really sound together,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: like you all have your parts that you have perfected
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: you sound. You know, it doesn't sound haphazard. It sounds
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: purposeful and meaningful.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you so much.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And what's next on the tour for you guys?
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: So you're in America?
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Where are you going next?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of going in the ocean, but I think,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: well when where where?
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Where is that costmas Laurderdale on the second Okay.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: We're going to Port Laurendale on the second of November
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to resumes to supply. But we do have a show
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: also in Miami under the the thirtieth of October. Yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: so we'll be starting the two again on the second.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: We're sopply, but we have our own show on the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: thirtieth of October and Miami.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: So so far it's being great.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: We played the Texas, we played Wichita, Dallas, Austin, Baton Road.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, many places. So this is the first time tour
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: in the South.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because it's warm and last time we
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: went to the north in February in Minnesota we were freezing.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: So yeah, this is this is this is much nicer,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: that's whether.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thank you so much, guys. It was such
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: a pleasure talking to you, and yeah, we look forward
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: to seeing more of you and hopefully getting you guys
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: to play over here sometime.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: A Den