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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 4-23-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's the Shan O'Connell Show, brought to you by Big
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  Speaker 1: Willies on Utah's number one sports talk and home of
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  Speaker 1: the Utes, ESPN seven ninety two one af AM, a
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  Speaker 1: proud part of Utah's ESPN Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Thursday, everybody, Welcome to the Shan O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: It is NFL Draft Day from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The NFL
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  Speaker 3: sits down with the Big Show that is a non
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  Speaker 3: competitive sporting event, a treat for all of us, the
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  Speaker 3: underwear Olympics into the pre draft process into now a
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  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Draft where we hope and expect to hear at
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  Speaker 3: least one Ute name call the first round potentially too,
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  Speaker 3: and I think more probably too. And then of course
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  Speaker 3: Day two, day three, some more local interests will be
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  Speaker 3: sprinkled in there. YU fans probably get involved either late
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  Speaker 3: Day two or early Day three. Dallon, Bentley, Logan, Fano,
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  Speaker 3: Landerbart and these are probably Day three guys, but the
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  Speaker 3: headliners are Spencer Fano and Caleb Lomo. And Spencer Fano
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  Speaker 3: is one of the headliners of the entire draft class.
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  Speaker 3: We still get to hold our breaths wondering whether or
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  Speaker 3: not he is considered to be the top tackle taken.
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  Speaker 3: Now the top tackle taken. About that three t's the
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  Speaker 3: top tackle taken. That's a lofty and illustrious position in
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  Speaker 3: an NFL draft.
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  Speaker 4: This year.
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  Speaker 3: That might be though the Cleveland Browns picking at six.
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  Speaker 3: And we've had great offensive linemen in Cleveland, one of
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  Speaker 3: the greatest ever. Joe Thomas spent his career in Cleveland,
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  Speaker 3: blocking consistently, almost flawlessly for you know, seventeen different starting quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: And as a result, Joe Thomas never won the big one.
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  Speaker 3: He never got close to the big one. He never
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  Speaker 3: got to be deeply involved in meaningful rivalries in playoff games,
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  Speaker 3: in postseason football. He still goes out as one of
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  Speaker 3: the most respected Hall of Fame offensive tackles that the
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  Speaker 3: NFL has ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: But he's with Cleveland the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that was a different era of Cleveland football,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm not convinced that we get much of an improvement.
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  Speaker 3: If that's where who whoever Francis Mowingoa, Thenrolle freeling, Spencerfano,
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  Speaker 3: whoever ends up there doesn't have to be an offensive
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  Speaker 3: lineman either. I'm not convinced that they get a different
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  Speaker 3: version enough of a different version of the Cleveland Browns
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  Speaker 3: to justify or to make you feel good about ending
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  Speaker 3: up there.
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  Speaker 4: So I put a poll question up at rialo C Sports.
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  Speaker 3: I always love to hear from you at eight seven
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  Speaker 3: seven three five three zero seven hundred's. It's a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a childish would you rather? Would you rather be
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  Speaker 3: drafted in Spencer Fano's projected position, which a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people in the mock drafts have him going number six
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  Speaker 3: overall to the Cleveland Browns, especially since Francis Mowingoa his
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  Speaker 3: most recent medicals showed a herniated disc in his back.
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  Speaker 3: Plenty of guys have played long careers with herniated discs,
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  Speaker 3: but it can make some people gun shy. Daniel Jeremiah's
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  Speaker 3: most recent mock draft, He's sitting on the television in
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  Speaker 3: front of me right now, has Spencer Fano going number
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  Speaker 3: six overall to the Cleveland Browns. Would you rather see
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  Speaker 3: Spencer Fano end up there? If you're Spencer final, would
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  Speaker 3: you rather end up there? Or would you rather go
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  Speaker 3: to a more consistent franchise, a more decorated franchise. Would
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  Speaker 3: you rather end up later in the draft and still
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  Speaker 3: in the first round? But playing for someone who's more
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  Speaker 3: reliable as a competitive team. To make it easy, I
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  Speaker 3: put it on the pole as would you rather end
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  Speaker 3: up twenty seven to the forty nine ers because it
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  Speaker 3: feels like they're going to take an offensive tackle, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to take an offensive lineman, or would you rather
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  Speaker 3: go number six to the Browns. There are obvious differences
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  Speaker 3: to the rookie pay scale, to the draft position, to
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  Speaker 3: the prestige of being drafted six overall versus number twenty
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  Speaker 3: sive and overall, But when you factor in everything, and
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  Speaker 3: the money has to be part of the conversation, the
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  Speaker 3: prestige has to be part of the conversation. To be
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  Speaker 3: able to say top ten NFL draft pick rather than
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  Speaker 3: just first round NFL draft pick can mean a lot
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  Speaker 3: over the course of a career. The money's got to
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  Speaker 3: be the most important thing for pretty much everyone's job,
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  Speaker 3: but there's also the fulfillment of being part of competitive franchise.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, I might be giving the forty
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  Speaker 3: nine ers too much credit because their window, their true
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl window, even as a die hard fan, I
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  Speaker 3: think has closed. But I imagine they're going to be still
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  Speaker 3: cobbling together playoff runs for the next four or five years,
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  Speaker 3: even if it's not a sincere effort to make I
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't say sincere effort even if it's not a realistic
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  Speaker 3: effort to get you to a Super Bowl. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, there's other teams that have talked about potentially
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  Speaker 3: being landing spots. It could be number eight to the
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  Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. The reason I didn't put six to the
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  Speaker 3: Browns or eight to the Cardinals is because the Cardinals
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  Speaker 3: are the Western version of the Browns.
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  Speaker 4: We are never going to believe in them.
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  Speaker 3: You're never going to look at the Arizona Cardinals and
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  Speaker 3: say that's where I want my favorite player to get
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  Speaker 3: drafted to. That's a spot where I could see a
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  Speaker 3: guy having a really, really good career, even if individually
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  Speaker 3: you're capable of having a great career there, you don't
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  Speaker 3: believe that they're going to win Super Bowls. And much
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  Speaker 3: like in college football, much like in high school football,
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  Speaker 3: team success begets individual's success in individual glory. Right, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you can be an All Pro and a Pro Bowler
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  Speaker 3: playing for a team that is not successful in the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a natural byproduct of the increased attention that
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  Speaker 3: the good teams get and that's the players that are
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  Speaker 3: responsible for making them. Good team tams get the individual accolades,
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  Speaker 3: and now contracts have those individual accolades written in as incentives.
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  Speaker 3: So at REALO C Sports or eight seven seven three
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  Speaker 3: five three zero seven hundred for an easy, low hanging
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  Speaker 3: fruit question of the day, would you rather see Spencer Fono?
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  Speaker 4: Or if you are Spencer Fano and.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking, you're like, you know, if you're Logan Fano,
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  Speaker 3: would you rather see Spencer Fono go number six over
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  Speaker 3: all to the Browns and get the bigger signing bonus,
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  Speaker 3: or go number twenty seven overall to the forty nine
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  Speaker 3: ers and play for a more respected and successful franchise.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to just make the decision based on
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  Speaker 3: the short term. I don't want to just and you
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  Speaker 3: don't get to make the decision. Obviously, you go where
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  Speaker 3: you're drafted. But if you had a preference and you're
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  Speaker 3: still a first round pick, which would.
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  Speaker 4: You rather have?
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  Speaker 3: On the show today, we are going to have Roxy Bernstein.
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  Speaker 3: In about seven minutes. He was on the call for
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  Speaker 3: Mammoth Golden Knights in Game two. He did a great job,
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  Speaker 3: as he always does, we'll talk to him about that,
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  Speaker 3: and of course the upcoming Friday playoff debut on home
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  Speaker 3: ice for the Utah Mammoth as they're tied one to
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  Speaker 3: one in the series. We're going to talk with Gordy Chiesa.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be here in studio with us for
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  Speaker 3: an hour. Lots to get to there. Alex Jensen, had
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  Speaker 3: Utah basketball coach, is going to join us as well,
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  Speaker 3: and Eric Weddle at one o'clock to talk what else
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  Speaker 3: the first round of the NFL draft. A guy who
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  Speaker 3: had his name called on draft day and was for
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  Speaker 3: his team their first pick when San Diego drafted him.
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  Speaker 3: They did not have a first round pick that year.
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  Speaker 3: Weddell went at the top of the second round and
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  Speaker 3: he was the first guy that the San Diego Chargers,
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  Speaker 3: his hometown team, decided to take off the board. The
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  Speaker 3: relationship changed obviously over the years with Weddell, but we're
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  Speaker 3: excited to have him on to talk what it feels
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  Speaker 3: like having your NFL dream come true. And I have
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  Speaker 3: asked him every year that I've been on radio to
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  Speaker 3: join us around draft time, and I've asked him to
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  Speaker 3: reiterate what that means and how it feels every year,
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  Speaker 3: and he has been gracious and kind of telling the
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  Speaker 3: story every time. And I will never get tired of
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  Speaker 3: it because a dream realized for a little kid. We
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  Speaker 3: could go out on any given Saturday in Utah this
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  Speaker 3: fall and see all those little gremlins running around with
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  Speaker 3: the oversized helmets and way too many wristbands on, and
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of those kids wish that they could hear
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  Speaker 3: their name called on draft Day someday. And Weddel got
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  Speaker 3: to experience it, and Garrett Boles got to experience it,
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  Speaker 3: and Jordan Gross got to experience it, and star lot
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  Speaker 3: to Lela got to experience it, and Jalen Johnson and
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  Speaker 3: all these guys, and the list goes on and on
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  Speaker 3: and on, and you watched each of them become something
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  Speaker 3: great in college football and then go on to success
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  Speaker 3: at the NFL level. I will never be tired of
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  Speaker 3: dreams being realized and people telling the story of how
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  Speaker 3: it felt and how they made it happen. So we'll
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  Speaker 3: look forward to that with Eric Weddle coming up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit later. If you're wondering what the uh the
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  Speaker 3: pay scale difference actually looks like for the number six
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  Speaker 3: overall draft pick in this draft versus the number twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven overall draft pick, it is a significant difference at
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  Speaker 3: number six. Remember these are post Sam Bradford. These were
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  Speaker 3: put in collective bargaining because NFL vets were starting to
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  Speaker 3: get really bent out of shape that these rookies wet
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  Speaker 3: behind the ears, have never played it down in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting these monster contracts, these monster signing bonus, these
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  Speaker 3: insane guaranteed money situations that NFL veterans were like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm locked into my contract for another five years and
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  Speaker 3: this kid is making more money than me and he's
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  Speaker 3: never taken a snap. So they decided the best solution
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  Speaker 3: for this was to structure it out so that as
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  Speaker 3: the years go on, it does get slightly higher. But
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  Speaker 3: pick number one. You know exactly how much money you
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  Speaker 3: are eligible for in your first contract. It is already delineated.
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  Speaker 3: You are slotted into your pay scale your agent matters
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  Speaker 3: for your second contract a heck of a lot more
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  Speaker 3: than your first contract. So number six, if indeed Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Fonnel or maybe Caleb Bloma, or maybe Francis Mowingaw or
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  Speaker 3: maybe Monroe Freeling, or maybe it'll be Ty Simpson who
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  Speaker 3: knows whoever goes number six. The total contract value of
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  Speaker 3: your rookie deal is forty million dollars, your year one
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  Speaker 3: salary is set ven point two million dollars. For number
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven, the total value of your rookie contract is
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  Speaker 3: eighteen million dollars and your year one salary is three million,
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  Speaker 3: three point three million dollars. So the overall difference is significant.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty two million dollar gap between number six overall and
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  Speaker 3: number twenty seven overall.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like that is bigger than it should be.
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  Speaker 3: The year one salary for number six versus number twenty
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  Speaker 3: seven is double. It's a big difference. It is a
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  Speaker 3: monster difference. So it'd be unfair for me to tell
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  Speaker 3: you to make a determination on whether you think you'd
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  Speaker 3: rather see a guy go to a lower pick better
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  Speaker 3: team or a higher pick worse team unless you know
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  Speaker 3: the real numbers. One, five, five to one says more
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  Speaker 3: money and lower expectations in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: That's look.
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  Speaker 3: If you can find a job in any field where
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  Speaker 3: you have a lot of money and not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of expectation from your bosses, kind of a win. Football
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  Speaker 3: players are not typically built that way. They're not wired
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  Speaker 3: to be like, well, yeah, give me the path at
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  Speaker 3: least resistance to my money, and the fanos are not
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  Speaker 3: that way certainly, But man, the disparity between those those
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  Speaker 3: contracts is significant enough that you probably say, yeah, I'll
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  Speaker 3: I'll go play for a really crappy team for an
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  Speaker 3: extra thirty two million dollars. If it were a three
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  Speaker 3: or four million dollar difference, maybe different. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: if I were a quarterback, the conversation would be much different.
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  Speaker 3: If you're an offensive lineman, like scheme fit and things
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  Speaker 3: like that are a lot less important. Maybe Cleveland has
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  Speaker 3: different plans for Spencer Fano if they draft him at six,
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  Speaker 3: then San Francisco would at twenty seven, because it's just
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  Speaker 3: less priority put on those picks. The forty nine ers
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  Speaker 3: are probably more comfortable saying like, yeah, we use the
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  Speaker 3: first round pick on you, which we want you to
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  Speaker 3: be a guard. The Cleveland Browns, if they use number six,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be get you better be a franchise tackle.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the other question I have for you that'll
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  Speaker 3: put out there on the Twitter, and this one's a
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  Speaker 3: Twitter poll. What kind of career do we think Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Fano is gonna have? Is he a multiple time pro bowler.
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  Speaker 3: Is he a Day one starter who then is a
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  Speaker 3: perennial starter. Is he a guy that you know he plays,
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  Speaker 3: he's a spot starter, he's somebody who never lives up
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  Speaker 3: to the expectation.
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  Speaker 4: Or is he a draft bust?
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  Speaker 3: So far in the early goings, multiple time pro bowler
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  Speaker 3: is the runaway answer. Half of you at least are
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  Speaker 3: giving it that credit. And when you talk to Spencer
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  Speaker 3: Fanal or you hear Spencer Fnal talk about who he
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  Speaker 3: tries to model his game after, it's Pane Sewel, a
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  Speaker 3: guy who's not much older than him, a guy who
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  Speaker 3: this is insane if if you did not have a
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  Speaker 3: good perspective on just how significant heavy almost Destiny Leyden
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  Speaker 3: the Samoa pathway to the NFL is. Pane Sewel's dad
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  Speaker 3: and Spencer Fano's dad were classmates in Samoa growing up,
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  Speaker 3: and now both of their sons our first round draft
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  Speaker 3: picks in the NFL. And this is not like some Westlake, Austin,
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  Speaker 3: Texas massive football factory school we're talking about here. This
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  Speaker 3: is a tiny island in the middle of the Pacific
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  Speaker 3: Ocean with a tiny population and somehow two guys who
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  Speaker 3: ended up having kids.
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  Speaker 4: Had giant kids who.
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  Speaker 3: Separated what five years apart from one another, are both
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  Speaker 3: first round draft picks playing the same position potentially in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: That is wild. You could make a movie about it,
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  Speaker 4: and I'd be like, that's not realistic.
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  Speaker 3: Whoever wrote this movie is asking me to suspend reality
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  Speaker 3: and believe that this, you know, population one hundred school
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  Speaker 3: has generated two NFL dads in the same class.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so. Anyway.
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  Speaker 3: NFL Draft tonight, we have it right here on your
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  Speaker 3: home of the ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to
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  Speaker 3: one FM. I told you it was a jam Pack
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  Speaker 3: show today. I cannot wait to have this conversation. I
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  Speaker 3: was bouncing back and forth, and normally I stay on
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  Speaker 3: the local broadcast when I'm watching the Utah Mammoth. But
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  Speaker 3: when my guy Roxy Bernstein is on the national call,
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  Speaker 3: you know that I'm gonna watch Roxy Bernstein on ESPN.
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  Speaker 5: It was.
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  Speaker 3: Utah Mammoth in Vegas against the Golden Knights, trailing won
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  Speaker 3: zero in the series, and they got the win the
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  Speaker 3: other night to tie the series up one one. Roxy
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  Speaker 3: Bernstein was on the call. He joins us now to
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  Speaker 3: talk all things hockey. Stanley Cup playoffs. Roxy, welcome, how
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  Speaker 3: are you, sir?
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  Speaker 5: I'm great, OCNE. I appreciate you getting the ratings up
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  Speaker 5: for me there at Salt Lake City. It's in a
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  Speaker 5: tough competition when the others competing broadcasts.
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  Speaker 3: I tell you what, though, Roxy, I have expressed my
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  Speaker 3: admiration for your versatility in the business many times. I
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  Speaker 3: will take every opportunity I can to do it, because
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot of basketball guys who can do football,
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  Speaker 3: and there are baseball guys that can do football, and
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  Speaker 3: most of you in the play by play world have
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  Speaker 3: some blind spot for hockey. But not my guy, Roxy Bernstein,
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  Speaker 3: you are excellent even on what I think might be
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  Speaker 3: the toughest sport of them all to call.
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  Speaker 5: They're at all different, and the pacing is clearly different. Sean.
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  Speaker 5: You know, football, it's like ten seconds of quick action,
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  Speaker 5: then there's a lull, right, Basketball it's fast paced, is moving.
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  Speaker 5: Baseball's definitely got the most deliberate pace. Hockey it's non stop.
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  Speaker 5: You got to be locked in, guys hopping over the boards,
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  Speaker 5: who's coming on, who's coming off, And even at stoppages, okay,
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  Speaker 5: they're starting quickly. It's just the pacing is different, and
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  Speaker 5: but the passion is there, and it's just there is
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  Speaker 5: nothing better than playoff hockey. And the environment in Vegas
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  Speaker 5: was great for Games one and two. It certainly was
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  Speaker 5: electric of the Fortress. And I can't wait to see
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  Speaker 5: what's gonna happen to the Delta Center tomorrow night, Game three,
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  Speaker 5: the first home playoff game for the Utah Mammoth.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait either.
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  Speaker 3: I think the atmosphere is going to be absolutely bananas.
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  Speaker 3: I know that the ownership group has some plans for
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  Speaker 3: trying to make sure that the stadium experience, the arena
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  Speaker 3: experience is elevated even beyond what it has been in
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  Speaker 3: the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: The hockey itself.
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  Speaker 3: What we saw at the end of Game one was
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  Speaker 3: the Vegas Knights being the Vegas Knights and saying, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, our advantage in this series is clearly our size,
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  Speaker 3: our physicality, our playoff hockey experience, and we're gonna bully
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  Speaker 3: this Mammoth team into playing our game of hockey. And
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  Speaker 3: they were able to come back and win Game one
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  Speaker 3: because of it. I was very curious what the response
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  Speaker 3: was going to be and whether Coach Bear and the
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  Speaker 3: Mammoth We're going to figure out a way to not
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  Speaker 3: let that happen again in game two, and in the
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  Speaker 3: early going it was like, uh, well, we'll see. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't look too bad, but it doesn't look that great either.
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  Speaker 3: At about halfway through the first period, the Mammoth started
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  Speaker 3: to play their game and obviously translated to a victory.
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  Speaker 4: You were on the call, what did you see?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the way I saw it too, Sean. It's
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  Speaker 5: like the Mammoth. I don't want to say they were
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  Speaker 5: a little timid, but when you're on the road in
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  Speaker 5: a playoff game at a visiting barn, it's loud and
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  Speaker 5: the momentum that the home team feeds off of, and
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  Speaker 5: those first eight to ten minutes, Vegas was thriving off
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  Speaker 5: that they came out with an early goal, they got
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  Speaker 5: the power play, and then when Utah killed it, that
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  Speaker 5: was a huge, I think, momentum swing back to the
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  Speaker 5: Mammoth because they were in danger of going down to
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  Speaker 5: nothing after they already had that mark Stone power play goal,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: and they settled in, they got to their game, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: they learned from game one how to counter what Vegas
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: was doing. In game two, I thought Andre Turney and
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Baron his staff job of sticking to their game, and
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: the game for Utah is speed. They are the faster
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: team that's not up for debate, and they had to
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: find a way to utilize their speed in game two,
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: and I think they did. Game one, Vegas clogged up
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: the neutral zone. Utah had a hard time breaking through
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: with guys like Gunther and Keller and Schmallts and coolly
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: trying to use their speed to their advantage. They found
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: a way to do it in game two. I'm curious
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: to see the chess match. Okay, you know, John Tortorella
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: and Vegas are going to react and figure out how
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: to kind of chop the game up and ugly it up,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: because that's the way Vegas needs to play with their size.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: The more skill, the more speed, at least for me,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: from top to bottom is with Utah, and they need
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: to thrive on that. If it gets into a track
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: meet Schohn, that's the advantage Utah and there's no way
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Vegas wants to do that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: If I had told you before the series started that
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: we'd be through two games and the Keller and Logan
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Krause line in Nick Schmaltz line would be kind of
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: underwhelming and had not generated points and not generated goals,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: but we still somehow want a game.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Would you believe me?
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I don't think whoheardly I would have believed you have
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: that because you do need your depth pieces to win
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: in the playoffs. You can't just rely on that top line.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: And the way Vegas game won it wasn't because of
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Jack Eichel and Mark Stone, it was Colton's sissons. It
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: was the depth guys that were the difference to me
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: in game one and in game two. For me, look,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: I think Logan Cooley is an emerging star. This he
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: and he is showing you he is a playoff type
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: player and understands the big moment and thrives in the
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: big moment. And he certainly to me, was the catalyst
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: for Utah in game two. But he need to get
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: the depth guys. I thought some of the Utah players
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: really responded and played well in Game two, and those
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: depth guys they didn't necessarily score, but they were noticeable
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: and they were active. And that was the case in
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: game one. Ivan barbershev was everywhere. Even though he didn't
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: really factor into the scoring all that much, he did
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: have you know, the empty netter, but his physicality was evident,
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: and guys like Kraus, I thought delivered that. In game two,
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I thought the fourth line really gave some energy as
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: well to Utah. And that's what you need in the playoffs.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: It can't just be a top heavy lineup. You're not
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: gonna go deep. You need to have that balance in depth,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: and guys have to embrace their role. That's what I
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: saw from Utah game two.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: How do we handle Game three?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Roxy, We've never hosted a playoff game before in the NHL.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: What are we supposed to do? What about what's the
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: dress code We're I supposed to wear?
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Do I have to show up pregame? How's this going
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: to work?
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah? All of the above. Right, you got to show
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: up pregame. You gotta get ready to go. Where are
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: your top mammoth sweater? That's what you need to do
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: this time of the year. And bring your energy, bring
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: your passion, and be in your seat early. Right, That's
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: the other thing. Like a lot of times, okay, the
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: drop of the puck, the building building's not entirely for
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Get there early, don't miss anything. Get you there for
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: the pregame hype. Watch the pregame skate to get you
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: ready and then you can go get your beverage of
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: choice and your food of choice. But make sure you're
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: in the seat because it is electrical and the team
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: takes the ice for the first time getting ready for
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the game. When they come out, it is going to
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: be the roof may blow off the Delta Center. I've
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: been in so many buildings for the playoffs, and I'll
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: be in Anaheim on Sunday for Game four between the
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: Oilers and the Ducks. But that is just the epitome
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: of hockey fantdom. It's just the energy level is going
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: to rise, and you just feel it's definitely different this
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: time of the year.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you felt this way before the
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: series started, when no one had skated yet. But the
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Mammoth have a chance to win their first ever playoff
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: series as a franchise. This Golden Knights matchup is one
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: that they can actually get past, not in just single games,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: but they can win this series.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Do you feel that way?
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: I do. I think they can win the series. Look,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: if you look at the regular season, Utah had more
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: wins than Vegas did, even though Vegas is the Pacific
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Division champion, the Mammoth of the number one wildcard, but
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: the Mammoth had more wins than the Golden Knights did.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: And I know a lot of analysts around the NHL
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: were calling the Pacific Division a pillow fight because it
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: seemed like nobody wanted to win it. But Vegas got
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: hot down the stretch with John Tortorella and game two
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: that was the first regulation loss for the Golden Knights
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: since Towards took over at the end of March. But
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: the playoffs are a different animal, and now that Utah
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: has had a taste of it. Look, there are veteran
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: guys Ian coles won Cups, right you look around the
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Utah room. There is some playoff experience, Kevin Stenlin. It's
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: not like they're devoid of that type of experience. But
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: the key offensive guys hadn't been there before Keller Coolly.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: But they played games on the big stage before, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Vegas clearly has that pedigree. They won the Cup back
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. I think in a lot of
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: ways that goes out the window now. Game one, I
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: think that Vegas took advantage of that. Utah figured some
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: things out in Game two. Now it ships the Mammoth
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: have stolen home ice advantage away, and now you have
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: to defend home ice. And if you can do that,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: if you can win your games at home, you're going
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: to win this series. It wouldn't shock me at all,
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: and I felt this way before the series. I'll see
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: that that Utah could definitely win this series.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Incredible, incredible game last night between the Stars and the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Wild The Ducks got over on the Oilers. The Western
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Conference playoffs. Any surprises for you or just something that's
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: jumping out.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: For you, nothing's really surprising. Look maybe that how flat
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: the Penguins have been and how Philly has just dominated
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: that series, and I think it's indicasion. Sidney Crosby's definitely
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: banged up. He's not he's the only men he's close
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: to one hundred percent, but he's trying to battle through.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: That's what you have to do this time of the year.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: And they have a lot of pride, and I would
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: expect the Penguins to come out and throw everything they
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: have with the Flyers in Game four. But other than that,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I really haven't been surprised by anything. I expected Colorado
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: breathe through against the Kings, although I thought La even
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: though they didn't win Game two Sean to me, for
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: most of that game they were the best team. They
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: just didn't win it. Now they go home down two. Oh.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: You allude to the game last night, the double overtime
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: thriller in Saint Paul, and that it's just a heck
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: of the series. Those teams are going to beat each
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: other up. I don't see any way that doesn't go seven.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: I just think those teams are so evenly matched, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: it's been amazing hockey to watch. And some of the
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: other series, like how about the nastiness in the Tampa
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: Montreal series, That is just it was a physical fight
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: the other night, which you don't normally see those type
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: of battles in the playoffs. Guys don't want to miss
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: chunks of time in being the penalty box, and you're
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: having team pictures in the penalty box and a couples
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: of the couple of series so far, and I expected
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: nastiness to get turned up a little bit. Now in
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: the Utah Vegas series, I don't think we've there's been
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: pushing and shoving. You had teams coming together, but you
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: haven't seen the same type of nastiness that you're seeing
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: in the other series. At some point that's going to change.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: And now that Utah's even the series, I expect a
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: strong pushback from Vegas in game three. And I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: the physicality, even though I think it's been extremely high.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: For example, Vegas had fifty one hits that they were
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: credited with in game one. That's fifteen more than any
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: game they had in the regular season. It gets cranked
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: up as the series goes along, and I would expect
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: some ugliness maybe to come in the next couple of games.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: That was one I think the keys of Game two
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: is that, you know, the Mammoth didn't get bullied around.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: It was what it was fifty one or fifty two
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: to thirty in game one, Yeah, and they were.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Basically even on hits in Game two, and that was
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: something they that the Mammoth absolutely had to step up
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and match the Golden Knights on, even if they don't
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: have the size necessarily to do it. I was I
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: was happy to see him kind of close that gap.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Definitely, And they've had some players that Krous is going
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: to throw his weight around. He's a big, physical guy,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: that's what he does. And I think That's why Andre
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Turney put him on that top line. When you have
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: the skill of Keller and smallt, you need to have
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: some sandpaper on that line. And Krauts with his size,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: he has excelled playing along those two guys and has
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: had a career season. And then even Okay, Logan Cooley
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: gets a lot of the credit and deservedly so. He's
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: been great. In the first two games. Kyler Yamamoto has
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: been a factor even though what he's five to eight,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: one hundred and ninety pounds, whatever it is, he throws
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: everything he's got at you. He plays with that grit
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: and determination and he's he was a big key for
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: me also in game two with his presence out there
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: for the Mammoth.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I love you know, Gunter Cooley is the one who
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: got the goal on the rebound. But but Gunter decided
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: to pull his best Connor McDavid impersonation and he just
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: turned on the Jets, took the punk one hundred and
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: ninety plus feet and created that rebound opportunity for Cooley.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: That's the kind of speed I need to see from
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: the Mammoth moving forward.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: And that's what they're capable of doing. And I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: he caught Vegas off guard of that move. Sean, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: don't think that. I think it was ratsmus Anderson who
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: was the defenseman that was there. I don't think he
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: knew that Gunther had that in him. He knows Gunther's
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: quick and as fast and has a great strident speed,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: but that extra gear that boosts that he got around him.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: I don't think he anticipated that. And then if you look,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: here comes Logan Kooley reading the play from the opposite wing,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and Vegas lost sight of him, and it was Jack
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Heikeel's responsibility defensively and he lost him. And then Cooley's
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: there to jam in the rebound and that turns out
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: to be the winner. And you can't have those slip
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: ups in the postseason. You make a mistake this time
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: of the year, it ends up in the back of
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: your net and you can't have those type of brain
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: cramps coming up.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: All right, unfair question, will be my last one here.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: We had Leel Messi in town last night playing into Miami,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: playing at RSL, and it was a big deal. It
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: was a you know, expensive ticket to get in.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: It was huge.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Everyone showed up, sold out everything, and we had a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: conversation yesterday about you know, the opportunity to be there
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: in the building when potentially the greatest of all time
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: or one of the greatest of all time is there playing,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: and we've had opportunities to watch Lebron James play basketball.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: You have this unique seat in these sporting events. You
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: already mentioned you're gonna be calling Connor McDavid and the
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Oilers playing against the Ducks. Who is the best and
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you have to think of all your sports here, who
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: is the best individual talent you've gotten the call games for.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: I watched I never got to call Michael Jordan, which
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: would have been incredible to do. I would say it's
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Connor McDavid. To be honest with you, it's great. Is
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: some of the Major League players and all the MLB
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: that I've done over the years. You watch McDavid, he's
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: just different and the way he moves and the burst
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: that he has, and he's doing it against his peers.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: It's not like he is this guy coming to play
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: with the a group of middle school kids and he's
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: just circling them and dominating and taking advantage of it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Because you know he is the older veteran understands this guy.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: He's doing it to the best players in the world.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: And just a couple of weeks ago, I took my
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: son to a game. They were playing Evan, who was
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: playing in San Jose. So I took him to the
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: game with a couple of his buddies, and I looked
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: over at my son and his friends and their jaws
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: hit the floor because McDavid had a hat trick, hit
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: five points. They dominated the game. He just was toying
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: with another professional team, and it was just incredible to watch.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Even with the superstar like Maclin Celebrini on the ice,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: who is phenomenal, but McDavid is just different. You watch him,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: he's just captivating the way he moves. There's nobody like
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: him in the game right now.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Your guy Macklin Celebrini might be that eventually if he
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: keeps at this pace. But man, I'm going to avoid
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: talking about him right now because the Sharks are not
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: in the playoffs this year. Sooner than later they're going
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: to be a real problem for the Mammoth. But not today,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: not right now, Roxy, you.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Know, but the Mammoth in a great spot. Right in
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: year two, you make the playoffs, they're clearly a franchise
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: that is ascending, and there's a few of them in
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: the Western Conference. Like we know Vegas is going to
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: be good for years. Some of the other teams, clearly
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: like Minnesota and Dallas have a lot of talent. Certainly Colorado.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Colorado right now is the oldest team in the league
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: and at some point that's going to catch up with them.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: As we know, Father Time is undefeated. But the three
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: teams in the West that are clearly on the rise,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: they're going to be cut contenders for years, along with
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: the Mammoth because I do believe that Utah is in
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: that spot with the pipeline that they have and the
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: talent of like Iginlan, Dano Yer and Simyschev coming Anaheim
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: and San Jose are right there with him, and those
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: are going to be some rivalries I think for years
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: to come with all the talent and the youth and speed.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: These two franchise are, these three franchises have Roxy.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: You have a great call on Sunday. I appreciate your time.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: As always, I have a deep, deep admiration for your
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: skill in the business, and you're an even better person.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: So thank you, sir.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: You got it, buddy, anytime I'll see hope see as soon.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: That is Roxy Bernstein. Give him any sport, he'll do
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a great job on it, even hockey. He was on
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the call for Game two when the Utah Mammoth got
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: their first ever playoff win. We hope for playoff win
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: number two on Friday night at the Delta Center. If
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you don't have tickets for it, no worries. Watch parties
• 35:37
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• 35:42
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• 35:46
  Speaker 3: via Raffle for every single game. So if you're not
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: going to be there in a seat at the Delta Center,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the next best thing will be a watch party at
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Big Willies at seventeen seventeen South Main And as always,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Telemose sent you the chias Is with us for the
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: next hour, we will pick his brain on all things
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: NBA playoffs because they're going on at the same time
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: as the Stanley Cup playoffs.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Sorry, we're spoiled.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Right now, it's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety two one FM.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: Peace Out.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: NBA than any of us will ever know.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: Let's not get crazy.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Come for the hoops talk. Stay for his list of
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the day our list today, here's oc with basketball. Soad
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: on Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell show.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Our friends over at the Ladin Industries bring you our
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: conversation with Gordy Chiasa. We're lucky enough to have him
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: for the next hour or so here on the Sean
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: O'Connell Show. And then after Gordy we'll be Alex Jensen,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Utah basketball head coach.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: So we are jam packed.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Weddell joins us an hour number three plenty left to
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: get to here. Gordy, welcome into the studio once again.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: How are you well?
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: Thank you?
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: If you're watching on YouTube, Gordy is wearing his sweater.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Everyone always compliments this particular hounds Tooth plaid sweater.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: It's just a great look, Gordy.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: I worry about you, really, I worry about you. May
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: who No one cares about my sweater.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I would not mention it if it were not for
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the fact that people always text in and say, wow,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Gordy's got swag again today.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: You have some imagination. But thank you. Thanks for the kudos.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: I appreciate and so does my wife also.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: All right, well, whoever in the house has the best
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: fashioned sense deserves their credit.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Thank you. Let's talk about this.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: We'll start in the Western Conference, the playoff bracket as
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: it shapes up right now. If you haven't been watching
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: NBA playoffs because he's been too dialed in on the
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Stanley Cup playoffs or too dialed in on the NFL
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: pre draft process, I fully understand. Right now is a
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: hard time to take in everything right now. Oklahoma City
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: is up to nothing on the Suns. Okay, so he's
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: looked pretty dominant in that one. The Lakers are up
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to nothing on the Rockets, Nuggets, Timberwolves is tied at
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: a game apiece, and Spurs Trailblazers is tied at a
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: game of piece. Let's start with that one because the
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Spurs are in a situation right now where they're managing
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the concussion, the injury of Victor wembin Yama. They're a
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: young team that's on the rise. They're taking on another
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: team that I don't think people have a lot of
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: belief is going to end up deep in these Western
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Conference playoffs. But the Blazers managed to steal one.
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  Speaker 6: Very much, and they did it because they really played
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  Speaker 6: so hard and Scoot Henderson had an absolutely great game
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: with his thirty one points and that was a difference maker.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: And the Trailblazers are a team on the rise and
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: as very similar to the JS who they're gonna try
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: to catch hopefully by next season. The Trailblazers the year before,
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: there were year before when eight they didn't make the playoffs,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: but they won thirty six games, and this year they
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: did make the playoffs. And now it's one to one,
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: and that and that he returned home to Rip City.
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: The biggest factor in the game right now is victor win.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Beyondber only played twelve minutes where showing he went down
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: hard where his hit his face on that floor in
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: his head, and that was really a very trying moment
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: for everybody that enjoys watching him play. Now he's in
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: a protocol as far as concussion, so probably which he
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: had certain criteria you have to meet by the team
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: doctors and by the league doctor. So the Spurs play
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: Friday night versus the Trailblazers. He's on the trip right now, Sewan.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: I'm assuming now that he won't pass the protocol and
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: hold him out, but they'll play game four on Sunday probably.
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  Speaker 3: How different is it when you are in a game
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: and you have to adjust to the absence of a
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Victor wen Binyama unexpectedly because he leaves after an injury
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: versus when you are given a couple of days notice
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: at least, hey, guys, this game we're gonna be without Victor.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: He's still in concussion protocol. I'm gonna need the rest
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: of you to step up. I imagine watching him go
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: down and go out and trot into the locker room
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: is something that has a huge effect mentally on the players,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: probably even on the coaches, and contributed in some way
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: to Portland being able to steal that game. But now
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that the Spurs know Victor wen Binyama's potentially out, is
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: it easier to adjust to.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, it's easier, and that's more emotional the words this
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: is his teammates, his brothers. Suddenly one of your guys
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: goes down with him with an injury, and at that
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: moment you're not sure what it is, and it takes
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: you an x amount of minutes to regroup mentally to
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: get back into the flow of it. In the meantime,
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: the Trail Blazers, who play a great game throughout throughout
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: the game, we're able to hold off the Spurs. So
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: now Luke Cornette, who did play well in replacement of
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: Victor wen Beyama, he'll be the starter and he'll he'll
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: do he'll do a good job for them as far
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: as being a screener, a timely hustle player, does a
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: good job defensively, as far as closing out to the corner.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: He's not the same rim protector and that was a
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: big factor where the where Danny Avdia was penetrating minus
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Victor went beyond. But in the game he's able to
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: get in the paint and live there and make make
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: a kickout passes or rimmed attacks and that was a
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: factor in the game to.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Drive that point home the Spurs.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: In that second game against the Portland Traidblazers, they blocked
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: five shots. Portland blocked eleven shots. Five shots is a single.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: That's just Victor wen Binyama's night in most nights, that's correct,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: and that's what happens here. It's so fractional.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Just like and he mentioned about hockey, every possession matters
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: in the NFL in the red zone, that's an understabing.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Every possession doesn't matter. As far as execution and basketball,
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: it's the same thing the under five minute mark of
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: every playoff game. If the game is tight, meaning five
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: points or less, you can't waste possessions and you've got
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: to get the ball up at the basket, whether you
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: miss it or not, it has to be a chance
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: for our offensive rebound. And that's why the Portland Traders
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: were able to show a gritty victory on the road.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Now the Spurs will show their heart next game. So
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: now that it's one to one, the Spurs, I'm expecting
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: are going to bounce back. Sethan Castle's very good DeAndrea
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Fox is tremendous, Devin Vassel, Harrison Bonds, all these guys,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Luke Connette, the six men of the Keldon Johnson They're
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: gonna respond. So it's gonna be absolutely a tough game
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: on Friday Night. Whoever wins that game puts them up
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: to one. It's really gonna be a good series.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: I asked you on Tuesday when we spoke about the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: sustainability of Lebron James dragging the Lakers to this level
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: of success. They're up to nothing on the Rockets. As
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I already mentioned, Houston is nearly a ten point favorite
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: in this coming game, which will be tomorrow. What's going
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: to happen in that series?
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: Well, the first thing, I'm not a betting man, but
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't bet against I wouldn't bet against the Lakers
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: ten point underdog.
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: They have a chemistry right now.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: Yes, they're missing Luca and they miss missing missing some
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: other guys as far as in the lineup. But what
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: they have, though, is that unbelievable right now chemistry where
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: the players are basically somewhat overachieving. So Austin Reeves is
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: the other player that they're missing, but Lebron is the
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: maestro of the whole thing. Marcus Smart did a good
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: job got in KD the other day. He was biting
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: up on him, forcing KD, who was a little bit
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: rusty off the injury, into nine turnovers. And then Marcus
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: Smarts counters that by having a great offensive game with
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: also Lebron and Luke Crennard, who's absolutely a knockdown, give
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: me the hot sauce shooter. Here's Lebron right now at
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: age forty one, Sewan the first two games in this
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: playoff series twenty three point five points per game, ten assist,
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: eight rebounds, forty eight point six filga percentage forty two
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: to nine from threes, and one point five steals in
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: thirty nine minutes. So he has been spectacular. And also
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: they're getting good support from Rory hatchin Moore. He's done
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: a good job as far as him making plays and
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: timely open shots. So I expect the Rockets to win
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Game three, but Game four is gonna be the one
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: where you could decide everything.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: All right, we got plenty of playoffs to talk about,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: but a big announcement this morning. AJ Debonza is staying
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: with BYU. I'll explain that's not fully false, okay. Reminder also,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: the four with the annual Funnel Cake Festival is back
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: this weekend at Lagoon. We want to send you and
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: your family. We've got a four pack of tickets to
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: give away during topical trivia coming up around one forty five.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Get ready to sample the funnel cakes. The fruity fun
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: funnel Cake that's Gordy's favorite tier Massoux funnel cake. He
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: also loves that one Saturday ten to seven Sunday ten
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: to six. Tickets are available at Lagoon Park dot com.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Discount price right now eighty three to ninety five each
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: plus tax. No promo code is needed. I'm not lying,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Aj Debonsa. Staying with b yu Asterix will be explained.
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  Speaker 8: Next.
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  Speaker 3: It's the Shan O'Connell Show on ESPN seven hundred at
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you.
• 45:46
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  Speaker 3: Happy to be with you on a show that is
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  Speaker 3: brought to you today and every day by a friends
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: down at Big Willie's. We're lucky enough to have Gordy
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: Chiasa here in studio with us. And look, there's NBA
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: playoffs to get to. I do want to talk about it,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: but we saw the t's on social media yesterday.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: AJ Debonca said, big news coming tomorrow morning.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go live on my Instagram right after that,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: and Aj debonsa is, to nobody's surprise, declaring for the
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: NBA draft he is a potential number one overall draft pick.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Now you heard my ts Before we went to break,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: he did say he's got to remain enrolled at BYU
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: because it's important to his family that he gets the degree.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: And look, I admire that. I think that's wonderful.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: There's no question that BYU will remain as attached to
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Aj as they can hand for his NBA career, that
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: they will allow him to come back in off seasons
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: and to take as many classes as he wants. That
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: they will help him get his degree. That is important
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: to the school. It is important to AJ's family. By
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: the way, Max Hall, the BYU quarterback who is one
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: of the favorite villains of the rivalry for Utah fans,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Max Hall just got his degree from BYU, like just
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: barely now graduated. So congratulations to Max Hall for getting
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: it done. I had no idea he had not already
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: earned his degree from the university, but we got that
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: announcement this week that he had.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: So good for him. I always do.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: We all dislike Max Hall for the classless comments about
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Utah from his days in the rivalry. He's been through
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: some stuff as an adult. He's made some mistakes as
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: an adult. He had the addiction problems and stuff, and
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: so the right thing to do is to root for
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: the person to have success as a person.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Is association as.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: A BYU quarterback in a rivalry matters very little compared
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: to overcoming and making it successfully through rehab and now
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: to getting his degree.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: So good job. Max hall Aj DEBONSA.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: We will get that story from him at some point
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: as well, that he has obtained his degree from Brigham
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Young University. But make no mistake, it was never in question,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and Gordy's been telling you this the whole way. He's
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: going to go to the draft, and of course he did.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Gordy, here's the first question about that, Sean, A long
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: time ago in your Korea. Academically, A might add, what
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: was you a major in school? I will be laughing about.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Because I should have done something that was a little
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: bit more. Look, the plan was to go into federal
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: law enforcement, and so I was going to go get
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: a master's in psychology, and instead I was So I
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: was a psych psych major social minor, which is like
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: very typical of the wanna be student athletes.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: They're easy degrees.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: So psych psych okay, you respect that pseudo science, yes,
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: pseudo And look at you now where you are right now. Yes,
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: he's an every single day.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: And I have parlayed that degree into this job, which
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: makes very little sense to any.
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: Of us, showing in my illustrious career academically. They like
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: the illustrious. I was once a teacher.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Uh huh. And so what was your major.
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Education?
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Education? All right, so you actually went to in field.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: And I was voted one time the worst ever student
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: teacher in the history of New York State.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, where I had I had.
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: I taught them Chinese history, okay, yeah, Chinese history, the
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: juniors and seniors. And about that where I had this
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: JULOPI car that only worked a Monday, Wednesday and Friday
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: when I was in college. And all these sort of
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: wealthy juniors and seniors with their mother and father's car
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: had these unbelievable cars. And here's my junkie car student teaching,
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: you know, coming down into the parking lot. It was
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: very very said. However, I did recover from them.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, look you stayed in education. Now coaching is a
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: different type of education, but is of course education nonetheless,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: So you actually worked in your chosen field, Gordy.
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: Yes, I did. I'm really grateful.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: And speaking of chosen field, aj debantser, all right, Showan's
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: alluding to that he's going back to school as far
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: as taking classes. And remember here's the benchmark. About five
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: years ago, Stephen Curry during the playoffs. They excellent. One time,
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: Hey Steph, what you in between road games?
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: What do you do?
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: And he said to the media scrum he said, well,
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: I'm studying tonight, and he said, what are you doing?
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: I'm studying. What do you mean?
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: He goes, yeah, I have to do a turn paper
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: online and it's due tomorrow and I'm finishing it tonight.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: So I'll be in my hotel room during a playoff
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: road where I'm gonna do it. Finish my turn paper
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: it's due. I'm gonna send it obviously online and give
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: it to Davison College because I promised my mother that
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: I would graduate. And then after that, about a year
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: later he graduated. He walked with the students online. It
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: was absolutely perfect. And for Davison College in North Carolina,
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: you couldn't get anything better than that with Steph Curry,
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: with these younger people walking on line with his cap
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: and ground.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: What a cool thing.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: And just like to zoom out, Steph Curry is worth
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: something like six hundred million dollars between his NBA earnings
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: and his under Armor endorsements, right, primarily under Armoured endorsements.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: He doesn't need a college degree, but the fact that
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: he wants to follow through on a promise, that he
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: wants to achieve a goal just for the sake of
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: achieving a goal is awesome and it's something that we
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: should talk about and we should celebrate, and obviously we do,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: we do report on those things. But for so many people,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the education is a means to an end. And I'm
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: grateful to have grown up in a house where my
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: grandfather was an educator. My parents had a really deep
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: appreciation of education and always taught us that education is
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: never wasted, that it's not about getting the piece of
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: paper so you can get the higher paying job. It's
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: about actually doing the learning. And it's cool to hear
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: that was the case for Steph Curry, who, like I said,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: that doesn't need He's never gonna have to apply for
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: a job. Steph Curry's not taking an internship anywhere, but
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: he still wanted to get the degree.
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: That's really neat and that's with Aja right now with BYU.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: And if you're BYU, you're a static that he wants
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: to be continued relationship with the university. And I think
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: it's really great speaking on now.
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: Talent.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: By the way, he'll be the first pick of the draft,
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: absolutely number one. He is a major talent that's going
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: to go probably to a lesser team where he's going
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: to start and be a huge factor as far as
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: them that new team of rafts him, as far as
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: the lottery regards, which is may tent which ironically showing
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: his mother's day, that's when teams find out what it
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: should be. Hopefully that the Jazz would ever get him
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: would be a miracle in a great way, and that
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: it would help the Jazz accelerate their process, which is
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: rich is right now going to be in play. It's
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: add to that. What does he do well, Aja Demanser.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: What he does is that he creates shots for himself
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: at any moment against good defense, he can go over
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: the top of the of the guardian. He makes plays.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: He's willing to play without the ball, and he can
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: rebound in traffic and bust out dribble to create a
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: tempo rhythm. Defensively, he's long and rangy and he tries
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: to play defense. Like all young guys, the physicality is
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: the factor, especially in playoff games. Shoans alluding before earlier
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: about the hockey situations where it's all based on physicality,
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: and that's the better teams in the end, and the
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: NBA they play physical defense with technique. So with AJ
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: and all the other guys in the high draft picks,
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: they're gonna happen. They're gonna happen in the in the draft,
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: learning defense, being physical with with technique is absolutely critical
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: for your development. So good for AJ. He's gonna he's
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: gonna be draft number one. Number two, Shawn should be
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: Darren Peterson. Three might be shown Caleb Wilson, who's I
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: know it sounds weird. He's that he's an unbelievable talent.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: He's vastly almost like underrated because he broke his wrists.
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: So if people haven't seen him play minus the personal
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: people since February and then Boozer, you can flip flap
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: all that all the time, and number five, Seawan should
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: be Darius Acoff from who's a major talent from Arkansas,
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: a point guard who's got absolutely quickness and jets.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: And of course when we get into that fourth, fifth,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: whatever pick, that's that's kind of where we ex BacT.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: That's the highest likelihood for the Utah Jazz to end
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: up in that neighborhood. They do have an eleven and
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: a half percent chance to have the number one overall picks.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: So if you're a gambling man or woman and you
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: like those odds, maybe the Utah Jazz do get aj DEBONSA.
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: Speaking of gambling, Sean, I'm gonna test your knowledge of music.
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: Oh dear, all right, who sang this song? The gambler
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: Kenny Rogers. That's correct. See, Sean, nothing gets past you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: This is why you're successful. And I'm a solving artist.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: That's I don't know if that's how I would characterize
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: our relative places in the world, but we'll go with
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: what Gordy says because we defer to his wisdom. All Right,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: we got to take another break. Our two begins next
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: with Gordy Chiasa. Like I said on Thursdays, we keep
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: him for as long as we can don't go anywhere.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: We'll get back into this playoff bracket in the NBA.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: We've only touched on a couple of the series so far.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get into the Eastern Conference. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 3: an NBA champion this year Eastern Conference. Does Gordy agree
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  Speaker 3: or disagree? We'll get to that in three minutes on
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  Speaker 3: The Sean O'Connell Show ESPN seven hundred and ninety two ONEFM.
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  Speaker 9: You know.
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  Speaker 4: He's not Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 1: You were home of the best side of your mutes.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back to oc from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio
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  Speaker 1: of DESPN seven ninety two one am.
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  Speaker 3: Thursday edition of The Sean O'Connell Show in his NFL
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  Speaker 3: Draft day. We are your home of football here in
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  Speaker 3: the state of Utah, but we're also your home of
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  Speaker 3: running utes basketball and we're lucky enough today to talk
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  Speaker 3: with the head coach Alex Jensen, kind enough to give
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  Speaker 3: us a few minutes here.
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  Speaker 4: On the Sean O'Connell Show. Coach, welcome back. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 9: I'm doing good. How are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're doing great. It's a fun time of year.
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  Speaker 3: You got NBA playoffs, you got NHL playoffs, you got
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  Speaker 3: the NFL Draft. As I just mentioned tonight, of course,
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  Speaker 3: your head down focused on all things running utes. But
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: have you been able to enjoy any of the sports
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  Speaker 3: calendar outside of your own basketball world.
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  Speaker 9: I was gonna say nothing is more exciting than the
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  Speaker 9: transfer portal, but no, I you know, I've you know,
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  Speaker 9: I've had time to I still have, you know, friends,
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: a coach in the NBA. But now that, yeah, the
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  Speaker 9: transfer portal's ending, I'll be able to watch I think
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: a little bit more of the playoffs. It's going to
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  Speaker 9: Like you said, it's an exciting time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's let's focus on your team.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, the transfer portal is the biggest story
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  Speaker 3: in college basketball right now, for you, for your squad,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: and really for everyone in the Big twelve and beyond,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: starting with the big picture, if you don't mind. The
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: transfer portal opened, and I think it was like sixty
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: percent of scholarship players with eligibility decided to if they're
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: toes in those waters. And of course that free agency
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: free for all is something that the adults in the
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  Speaker 3: room are going to have to try to figure out.
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  Speaker 3: But the system right now is such that you know,
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  Speaker 3: athletes can't explore this consistently every year if they want to,
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  Speaker 3: and that means you and your coaching staff are in
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  Speaker 3: a pretty serious reevaluation period on your roster, on who
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  Speaker 3: wants to stay on, who you want to stay on,
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  Speaker 3: who else you might be able to bring in. And
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  Speaker 3: when the numbers are that overwhelming, what is it like
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  Speaker 3: for you in practice to try and narrow it down.
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  Speaker 9: Well, you know it's not easy for sure, But you
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  Speaker 9: know last time, last time this year, you know, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: was finishing up in Dallas. I was, I was still
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: coaching with the Mavericks when the portal hits. So I
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: think this year around, it's been I don't want to
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  Speaker 9: use the word easier, but you know, having you know
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  Speaker 9: the year and the lead up to prep I think
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  Speaker 9: myself from the staff, we did a good job, you know,
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  Speaker 9: kind of preparing throughout the year, so you're not anything
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  Speaker 9: you can be ready for it completely. But I think,
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  Speaker 9: you know, just knowing the space and the players and yeah,
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  Speaker 9: it was you know, long days, but I think the
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  Speaker 9: work paid off that we did throughout the year.
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  Speaker 3: How big a difference does it make this time around
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  Speaker 3: that you know your staff was fully in place.
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  Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 3: Last year, not only were you kind of transitioning, but
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  Speaker 3: you're still figuring out who's going to be joining you
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  Speaker 3: at the University of Utah, who's going to be helping
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  Speaker 3: you along. Now that you guys are firmly in place
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  Speaker 3: and we're able to do it kind of you know
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  Speaker 3: together the whole way, how much of difference did that make?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 9: Its huge difference. I can be kind of choke about
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  Speaker 9: it now because there was there was a lot of
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  Speaker 9: times where I'd be on the phone right before a
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  Speaker 9: game last year, and then right after the game, I'd
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: get on the call and nobody had I think permanently
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  Speaker 9: moved to Utah and you know, a handful of my
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  Speaker 9: you know, my staff. It was kind of a mixture
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  Speaker 9: of the NBA in Europe and college so I think
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  Speaker 9: all of us know the you know, nothing like going
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  Speaker 9: through it for a year, but knowing the college space better.
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  Speaker 9: So yeah, I know it's much better just being around,
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  Speaker 9: settled and kind of having a frame of reference on
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  Speaker 9: how it works and the direction we want to go.
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  Speaker 3: As far as that direction is there like a strategy
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  Speaker 3: on a whiteboard somewhere in your offices that says we
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  Speaker 3: want European guys. I need somebody who's you know, seven
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  Speaker 3: feet tall. Is there boxes that you're looking to check specifically,
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  Speaker 3: or is it let's evaluate every player who's out there.
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  Speaker 9: No, you know, it's interesting because it's you know, there's
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  Speaker 9: there's the pool of players is so huge, right you
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  Speaker 9: have you have freshmen, the portal, which is you know,
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  Speaker 9: a few two three thousand players. Then you have you know,
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  Speaker 9: Europe's I think really exploded in the last couple of
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  Speaker 9: years because of the money. But no, I don't think,
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  Speaker 9: you know, I don't think we you know, hopefully, I
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  Speaker 9: think when we're established, when we get it going, I
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  Speaker 9: think we can have a mixture of all of them.
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  Speaker 9: But you know, we just kind of go with our
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  Speaker 9: you know, the connections that myself and the staff have.
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  Speaker 9: I think that always helps, if there's a relationship with
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  Speaker 9: an agent or something like that. But no, I don't
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  Speaker 9: think we, you know, concentrate on on any specific pool
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  Speaker 9: of players. But I think, you know, the one thing
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  Speaker 9: we always talk about is it seems like an easy thing,
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  Speaker 9: but they they need to want to be here, right
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  Speaker 9: like it has to like they need to want to
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  Speaker 9: come and play at the University of Utah, and you know,
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  Speaker 9: hopefully it means something to them like it does to
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  Speaker 9: me and everybody else. I think the first it's on
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  Speaker 9: our staff and team.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think the first couple of conversations we have, you know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the things I was most interested in is like,
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  Speaker 3: what's the identity of running nets basketball going to be
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  Speaker 3: with Alex Jensen as the head coach? And and then
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  Speaker 3: of course the extension to that question is, well, how
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  Speaker 3: do you establish that? And and so I'm asking the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: same thing because now you know, there's so much roster
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  Speaker 3: turnover in modern day college basketball, and the same is
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  Speaker 3: true for you up there on the hill. Has that
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  Speaker 3: answer potentially evolved over the last year since you know,
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  Speaker 3: we were welcoming you to the job officially for the
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  Speaker 3: first time. Is your idea of team identity and how
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  Speaker 3: you establish it?
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  Speaker 4: Is it changing or has it changed?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 9: No, I think it's actually probably got condensed more. It's like,
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  Speaker 9: like I said, they've got to want to be here,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: they have to enjoy playing it. And I think you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 9: growing up in Utah, I think you know by your
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 9: Utah the Jazz or any team, like if you look
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 9: back it's always kind of been the tough, overachieving team.
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  Speaker 9: Like I think the teams have been successful or the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 9: guys that whether it was in the pros or college,
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  Speaker 9: they came in, they weren't necessarily the biggest names are
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  Speaker 9: ranked really high, but they I think that's what you know.
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  Speaker 9: I grew up watching and loving and the fans here joy,
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  Speaker 9: so I think that kind of fits into what I want.
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  Speaker 9: But just you know, kid guys and players that love
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  Speaker 9: to compete and play and overachieve. They might not be
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  Speaker 9: the seven footer. They might be not by might eat
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  Speaker 9: sixty nine, but it's maybe the six to seven kid
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  Speaker 9: that that makes sense. So but yeah, anybody over seven
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  Speaker 9: feet there's a there's usually a cost premium were we were.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at it.
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  Speaker 3: Just it fascinates me because it is it's a numbers
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  Speaker 3: game when you talk about these big bodies. Obviously numbers
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  Speaker 3: game in so many ways. And according to Google, which
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Google's never wrong, right, Like there's only roughly three thousand
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  Speaker 3: seven footers on planet Earth at any given time, and
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  Speaker 3: it's like, well, okay, and how many of those are
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty two years old, and how many of
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: those have ever picked up a basketball probably most at
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  Speaker 3: this point, and then how much do those guys want
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  Speaker 3: to be paid to add another number into the game.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot easier for the fan to sit out
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  Speaker 3: and say, well, where's our seven foot you know, center,
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  Speaker 3: we need that when it's just not as available as
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  Speaker 3: we wish it was.
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  Speaker 9: No, No, it's not, you know, and it's interesting and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: it's nobody's fault. It's just the way it is. But
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  Speaker 9: I say, you know, the the money that's out there everywhere,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 9: I think outweighs the talent at a pretty big ratio,
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  Speaker 9: if that makes sense. So it becomes pretty interesting, especially
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 9: with big guys, because there's not a lot of them,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: so there's more you know, competition for them, and they
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 9: can end up getting you know, getting a like, I
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: don't know the other word to use, other than maybe
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  Speaker 9: a premium.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So Alex Jensen definitely not a lot of them.
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  Speaker 3: Alex Jensen our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: talking Transfer Portal, Utah basketball, a little bit of everything
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: in that world right now. So the newcomers that you
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: have in coming from the transfer Portal, we've been kind
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: of announcing them as they are reported and as they
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: are signed. Uh, what do you like most about like
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: in aleg at Ibata.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I I think just you know, I'm kind
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: of I'm not sure exactly what I can say or not,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 9: but but you know what, the guys good people like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: they love to play and I think they they're uh,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: you know through the conversations that it's a place they
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: want to be and they met the staff and like
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  Speaker 9: I said, they want to be here and it's not
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: the you know, obviously the money comes into it, but
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  Speaker 9: that's not the the number one reason that they're that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: they're coming to the University of Utsu. But just you know,
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  Speaker 9: you know, I look at it this way, like when
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  Speaker 9: I watch players like guys I would love to play with,
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  Speaker 9: and uh, I think that makes it easier for picking
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  Speaker 9: those guys. And you know, but most of the guys
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  Speaker 9: that well, I think all of them we have they're
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: guys that I'd like to play with if I was
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: still playing, even though I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, when you were evaluating how this last season went,
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  Speaker 3: and I know it's not probably the exact way you
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: envisioned it, there is patience in the fan base and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: in the leadership at the university that I've talked to
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: knowing that this is going to be, you know, a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: gradual process and it's going to take some serious effort.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: But when you evaluated the basketball you guys were able
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: to play this past season, was there something a serious
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: deficiency that you said, all right, as we overhauled this roster,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I need to make sure that X fill in that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: blank is something that we are better at or that
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  Speaker 3: we can do.
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  Speaker 10: Well.
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  Speaker 9: You know, you know, it was a you know, i'd
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 9: be it was a disappointing year, a tough year, but
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 9: I think it was one where we learned a lot.
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  Speaker 9: And no, I think it's a you know, I've been
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: out of college for fifteen years, and it's definitely it's
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 9: a different game. And you look at the you know,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: you don't try to copy necessarily other teams, but yeah,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: you always want to be like we were talking about
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: with the seven footers, bigger, longer, faster, But you know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 9: we had a few injuries, but you know, I think
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: just the way we balance the team. But I don't
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 9: think you know, rebounding is always a huge thing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I don't think there. I think it's like I said,
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  Speaker 9: I think it's kind of condensed even more to the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: to the player we want, and uh, yeah, no, I don't.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think there's necessarily any one thing. It's funny
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: because it changes. You know, we'll probably have pretty much
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: a new roster like a lot of teams, which is
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: you know, not ideal, but you know, just guys that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: fit each other and fit us well, and I think
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: that'll help promote the successful at all. But yeah, I
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: don't think there's any one thing because you know, the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: portal happens so fast and you're looking for everything shooting size,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: so you try to do your best.
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  Speaker 3: As you're trying to bring in, you know, the right
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: kind of guys. A lot of the people that we
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: have seen, you know, you kick the tires on. And
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: even the guys that are coming in, there's like this
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: little asterisk for some of them at the bottom of
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: the sheet that says, uh, this person's going to explore
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: the NBA draft potentially, but we expect them to still
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: be at Utah. And even guys that you know departed
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Kd's going to Kansas, but he's going to explore the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: NBA draft. What does that actually look like for you
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: and for your staff? Is there is there anything you
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: know that is there a role that you play during
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: that process as they're trying to figure out where they
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: belong in true pro basketball circles or should I stay
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: in college or do you just wait and see? Like
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: how is it in real time handled by a Utah
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: coaching staff when guys are one foot in the NBA
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: draft process. But also if I'm going to stay in college,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be at Utah.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think a lot goes into I think that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: was a you know, big reason I wanted to have
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 9: a GM, you know, because those are conversations with you know,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 9: the agent, and I think the one thing you have
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 9: to make sure of that that that you know coming
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: and playing in college, they're excited for it, and it's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: not like a fallback thing, if that makes sense, where
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: whereas you know, if you make the NBA, it's great
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 9: that they're excited to come play in college and instead
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 9: of the other way around, it's like, well, if I
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 9: don't make the NBA, it's like my fallback thing. I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 9: think it's you try to find, you know, guys that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: are in that situation that want to come college, go
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 9: to college, and if the NBA happens, then it's like
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 9: a bonus. It's hopefully that makes sense. But yeah, I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: mean it's hard. It's just the nature of the business
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 9: and things are ruined fast, and you try to anticipate
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: the likelihood of that as much as you can.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: As the business of college basketball becomes exactly that, more
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: of a business and it's more of a professional endeavor,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: even for the players with contract negotiations and effectively salaries
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: and things like that, do you find that the players themselves,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: the people are more professional about how they conduct themselves,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: Like are our nineteen and twenty year old University of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: Utah basketball players more like the guys you new in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: the pros than you were as a college athlete.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: You know, it kind of varies because, like you said,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 9: there's not a lot of there's very few, very few
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: regulations on it all, you know, and and and uh,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 9: you know, it's an interesting space with the agents, like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: you have everything from a you know, a parent or
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 9: an uncle or to a you know, a big agency
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: that has NBA guys. But you know, kind of there's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: it varies quite a bit. And I think, uh, you know,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 9: it's hard. I think, you know, difficult for kids because
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 9: there's an advantage of having an agent and hopefully you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 9: know that space will be regulated soon. But yeah, you know,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: it varies.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: You get you get.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 9: All sorts like you get you know, obviously people that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 9: are trying to get everythingny and and then there's you
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: go to the other end of the spectrum where they're
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 9: really professional. They want a good situation that fits them
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 9: and their player and and and it's all about relationships still.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: But yeah, I know there there's a there's a wide,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 9: wide spectrum of the professionalism on.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: The basketball front when it comes to like making sure
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: they're at rehab when they're supposed to be, making sure
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: they're a shoot around and at practice on time or
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: even early, because if you're on time, you're late for
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: some coaches. Uh is the professionalism growing in that respect
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: relative to maybe what it was in college basketball the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: last time you touched down.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 9: There, you know, I yeah, you know, I think it's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: the guy that the players you get, you know, and
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: when there's money involved, you know, in the NBA there's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: a you know, fine structure and you know a lot
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 9: of times a guy, you know, the find can be
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: so much, but he might make so much money where
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: it doesn't affect him. And I think uh, you know,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: you know, when the money comes into it, you know,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 9: you still try to not necessarily have control, but hopefully
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 9: have the relationship with them. But it gets tricky. It
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 9: gets tricky, you know, because money, money changes changes a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 9: player or some of them. And no, I don't know,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: I think it's in a transition right now because it's
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: a college is caught in somewhere between. They don't want
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 9: to call it pay to play, but that's exactly what
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: it is. So it's a strange time because it's you
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 9: want to treat them like professionals, but the rules kind
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 9: of don't let you. I don't know if that makes sense,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 9: but it is. I mean, it's a professional game now,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: even though whatever doesn't want to call it that, it is.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's where that's why I'm like, I'm so
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: curious about this right because my understanding of professional athletics
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: and I was never involved in a team sport. But
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, you better conduct yourself like a pro if
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: you want to keep earning that paycheck and you want
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: to keep you know, getting on the floor. In the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: case of basketball, you better conduct yourself like a pro.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: We're paying you like a pro. You better handle it
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: like a pro.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Of course, in the like you mentioned, there are collectively
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: bargained structural finds that if you don't show up to
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: this workout or if you don't do this, it's already
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: laid out how the punishment will will affect you. And
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: maybe it doesn't affect you because you have enough money
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: that it doesn't or whatever. But in basketball, again, there's
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: just not regulations. And so I'm really curious how you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: who's who's been in the pro ranks and it knows
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: exactly what you know, Rudy Gobert had to do to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: become what Rudy Gobert has become and how professional he
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: had to be in that and obviously there was a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: money aspect to that as well. But now you're doing
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: it with college kids who don't have the same level
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: of structure, and I'm really fascinated by how that works
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: in your program.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 9: Well, well, I don't think, well.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: It doesn't work.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 7: It doesn't work.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: You do your best, You do your best to make
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 9: it work. But yeah, I mean there's there's uh, you know,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 9: and I still, like everybody else, I'm on the same
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: spot is And you know, I had a lot more
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 9: questions when I when I took the job, and there's
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 9: still a lot of questions that need to be answered.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: And I think there's you know, people are working, the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 9: powers that be are working on a hopefully a few
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 9: I think easy resolute, I mean easy guardrails to put in.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 9: But yeah, no, you're you're right, like, it's uh, you know,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 9: it's interesting. You know, a kid, we can sign them
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 9: a week before the portal portal closes. You can sign
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: everything and you have the contract and then he can
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 9: still go back into the portal and it's it's it's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 9: it is interesting. It interesting. A lot of it doesn't
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 9: make sense right now, but I know they're hopefully there.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 9: Everybody's working through it and hopefully we get those rules.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 9: But yeah, no, it is it is uh, it is
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 9: a It's definitely advantageous to the players and their agents,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 9: but yeah, it's a difficult time. I think for for
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 9: all of us.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: What have you learned about your self in the last
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: year that maybe you didn't know before you dove in
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: as the head coach of your alma mater?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 9: You know, I you know, I've been lucky to have
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 9: been a head coach and been around a lot of
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: good coaches and I think the thing is it's like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 9: I remember, like it. I don't think things have expanded.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 9: It's kind of condensed down to the you know, it
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 9: was one thing I learned from coach Majeri's to keep
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 9: it simple and there's a few things you look for
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 9: and uh no, and I think being back at my
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: alma mater, you know, I go back to the you know,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 9: we played Arizona and they remember one at the time
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 9: and I don't think we filled half the Huntsman and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 9: like it, like that hit me, like it, to be honest,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 9: that you know what upset me, and uh, you know
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 9: it kind of I guess it drives me more to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 9: fill that place because that's what you know, for decades
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 9: that place has been so that that's my goal and
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 9: obviously that's associated with winning. But you know where you know,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 9: you have three or four generations of Season six holders
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 9: that tend to games and there's memories there. So yeah, no,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 9: I think being back, I mean always knew it, but
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 9: like going through and experiencing it at my lamar, I
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 9: would really driven to to fill the Huntsman Center again.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: How much have you and Morgan's scally cross paths so far?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe had a chance to commiserate about what the transfer
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: portal has done to your respect to sports or whatever.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 9: You know, I've been able to Yeah, you know, we've
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: had a few conversations. You know when when I got here, Yeah,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 9: it was wild that you know, it was one of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 9: those things, one of the many things on my list
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 9: that I wanted to do right away but didn't get
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: to it. Like when you know Kyle is here, now
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 9: it's Morgan. But no, I've been able to have a
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 9: few really good conversations with Morgan, and you know, I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 9: admire what they've done in football over the last couple
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 9: of decades to keep it rolling. It's something that you know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 9: we want to you know, emulate, you know where it's
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 9: you know, you're you're a kind of as a program
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: that's that has to be reckoned with every year. But no, no,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 9: we've had a few more conversations and they love to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 9: you know, pick his brain and a football and basketball
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 9: is a little different. But yeah, no, I've learned. I've
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: asked him a lot of questions about how he approaches
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 9: the portal, for sure.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: Coach I these are the types of things I don't
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: like to talk about on this show. But I feel
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: like it's part of my job that I have to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: ask you the the financial support that comes into a program,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: the revenue share and then the nile opportunities are large
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: determinant now of what your roster is going to look like.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: And I love what I'm seeing on paper from the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: guys that are coming in and are going to be
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: part of this roster this year, but I have to
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: ask if you know, if you're getting the support that
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: you were promised or that you need in order to
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: maximize Utah Basketball's competitiveness and eventually return to the glory
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: that you were once part of as a player.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 9: No, no, I think uh, you know, I mean it's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 9: not I don't think any one person or one thing,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 9: but I think there's been a disconnect with the community
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 9: in the program over years and it's and it's kind
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: of built. But you know, that's the last year we've
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: I think we've done a good job, you know in
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: president President Randall's been great. He's committed, which is which
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 9: is great to have the president university with all the
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 9: things he has to do to be committed. And no,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 9: I think we've met a you know, I think that's
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 9: the one thing I knew before I took the job,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 9: and since I've been here, I think there's a lot
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 9: of people that want to do what they can to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 9: to make the program successful. And and I've had a
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: lot of good conversations, and I can say we're in
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: a much better, much better place than we were a
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 9: year ago as a program. And I'm excited. And you know, yeah,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 9: you could always right, it's interesting now because you could
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 9: always use more money, but like I think we uh,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 9: you know, we're at a place where we can be
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: really competed in the Big twelve.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite NFL team? Will you be
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: paying attention to their draft pick tonight in Round one?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: I don't. Yeah, that's the nice thing about growing up
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 9: in Salt Lake is I can always I can be
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 9: the hater or I can always be the root against somebody.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: But you know what, It's funny because I've never played football,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 9: I mean other than at the park, but I'm fascinated
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 9: with I've been able lucky to hear some coaches speak
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 9: in the NBA and some players, and you know, it's
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 9: funny enough. I use a lot of football analogies. So yeah,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: I h there I have players and coaches that I love.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Well, well, well, we'll welcome you on the forty nine
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: ers bandwagon anytime you want, coach, that's that's my team.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: So I'll make room for you.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 9: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as they yeah,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 9: as soon as they win eight games or more.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm there.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: I love it. Coach.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: I know you're very busy and I appreciate you giving
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: us some time today. Good luck with everything the rest
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: of the way in this offseason, and obviously we'll be
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: checking in.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 9: So okay, thanks guys.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Alex Jensen, running uts head basketball coach. The transfer portal
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: for your running Uts team is I think it's treated
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: them well this year. And I shouldn't say treated them well.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: They've done a good job in the transfer portal. It's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: not like they were just gifted a bunch of things.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Alec Onigbada German forward shoots the three well six' eight good.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: SIZE.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: Tj birch Helped Wright state win The Horizon league in
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: the regular season and their tournament title as. Well he
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: was a Defensive player of The year in The Horizon.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: League we talked About Tyson, chapman another good shooter transferred
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: From Ohio. State he was at one point the top
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: ranked recruit out of the state Of. Minnesota Jackson, holcomb
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: who's coming FROM. Uvu you've got a couple return Missionaries Jackson,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: johnson former Al Ta, Hawk David, katoa The katoa name
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: has done good things For utah, athletics the Former layton
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: And utah prep. Guy and then in the early sinees
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: From November Styles Clemens Zadi, lebaki and we already talked
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: about some of the other individuals that have committed start
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: at the The israeli kat what's his, Name yakov Nom
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: yakov looking forward to HIS i think on, paper at
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: least it looks like a, better more, balanced and perhaps
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: deeper roster than what you had last, year but of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: course we got to see what it actually looks. Like
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: big thanks To Alex jensen for joining. Us so much
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  Speaker 2: An welcome back to The sean O'Connell, show Forty chase
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  Speaker 2: twenty minutes here on the.
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  Speaker 3: Show All, RIGHT i mentioned before the, BREAK i don't
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: see AN nba champion emerging from The Eastern. CONFERENCE i
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: think this Year's larry O'Brien gets hoisted by somebody in The,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: west whether that be The thunder or The. SPURS i
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: could see The nuggets doing, it maybe even The, lakers
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: which would Cement Lebron. JAMES i think that would change
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: the goat debate in basketball more than anything so far.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: Has If lebron were somehow AND i think it's, unlikely
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: if you were somehow able to drag The lakers to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: a championship at age forty, one then you would have
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: to alter your calculus a little bit on his career
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: Versus Michael jordan's. CAREER i don't even think that's the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: most important debate to, have but it's a foregone conclusion
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: in my mind That michael stays number.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: One in most people's.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: Minds that would be one of the only things that
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: could happen in modern basketball that might draw some more
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: people over To lebron's, Side yes he.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 6: Would, However Michael joans hard to beat. Out let's refresh everyone's.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: Memory six straight, championships six TIMES mvp in the, finals
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: which is absolutely hard to. Do and then two years
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: of baseball where he's so much just about him. Scrutiny you,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: know he's so famous that you can't actually be any
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: moment in your life basically. Normal and so he took
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: an absence of about a year and a half and played,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: baseball and he came back to The Chicago.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: Bulls all, Right.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: So sons alluding to he thinks that the winners have
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: come out of The. West all, Right i'm going to
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: offer a slightly different. Viewpoint, OKAY i think something going
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: to be an upset this, year that the win is
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: gonna come from The east and it's gonna be The.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: Celtics all, Right this is me saying, it And hit
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: hits some metrics About sean you decide no listeners right,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: now driving in the car AT i. Fifteen for the
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: last seven, years there's been seven DIFFERENT nba champions twenty, Nineteen,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: raptors twenty, Twenty lakers in The, bubble twenty twenty one,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: bucks twenty twenty, Two, warriors twenty twenty, Three, nuggets twenty
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: twenty Four, celtics twenty twenty Five. Thunder add to, that
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: for seven straight, seasons the DEFENDING nba champion didn't advance
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: past the second player. Round they lost seven straight years
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: in the conference, semifinals including last year when The celts
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: lost to The knickerbockers in the second. Round so that's the,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: Metrics is it true this? Year that's the beauty of
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: THE Nba. Playoffs you think you, know you know, Nothing
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: so just, say besides being A jazz fan in this,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: market you're a fan of other, franchises where with your,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: team THE Nba playoffs is the act to which you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: need to win a. Championship for an the individual, team
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: they are one you need star, power two, speed three,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 6: toughness four, health five, versatility six discipline and seven. Luck
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: those are the seven attributes that THE nba champion.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: Will have most of them and that's the.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: Blueprint so, again when you analyze your, team besides the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: first one star, power absolutely. So in the fourth quarter
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: of AN nba playoff game where a home or, away
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: the question is, philosophically, oh by the, way are our
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: three best players better than our rival's best players in
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: the fourth, quarter especially under the five minute, mark where
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: it's one for, all all for, one where our guys
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: have to on both sides of the ball guard their,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: position play health defense and make baskets or draw fouls
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 6: against rugged physicality. Defense and that can we get consecutive
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 6: stops to win by one or.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 7: Two and that's why star power is so.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: Important remember, now let's point about, this, oh by the,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 6: way is that the opponent's going to double team one
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: of your star players to get the ball out of their.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: Hands so which means then that someone else on your,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 6: team your favorite, team who will probably get an open
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: corner look three point, shot and can that person make that?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: Shot And joonnes alluding to about The lakers earlier a
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: few minutes ago about The lakers And Lebron, james they
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: have right Now Luke, Krannar So Luke curnar could be
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: the biggest benefactor Of Lebron james And austin reason he
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: comes back And luca for the open three point, shot
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: and So lakers could be a factor in The. West
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 6: besides The, thunder we're absolutely great one through. Ten also The,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: nuggets who are vastly, underrated and all the other teams
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: and The minnesota Tumb wolves and The, spurs the role
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 6: bunched up and we think that eventually that it's going
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: to come down to who can make.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Place so number four on that, List gordy just gave
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: you was, health, Right, yeah, Health, yes health is What
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: i'm watching in The west the rest of the way
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: because The lakers are already compromised on. Health now The spurs
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: have to worry about when Min Yama and of course
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: we hope that that ends up not being a major.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: Thing BUT i, mean especially With San, antonio that's one
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: of the more exciting teams in this, Playoff and if
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: they don't get to stay, healthy can they overcome, it
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: especially as a young. Squad and then AND i mean
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: we haven't talked enough about the defending champs To Oklahoma City.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: Thunder you already talked about the. Trend it's been a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: new team year after year after year after. Year are
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: The thunder the most likely that we've seen in that
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: stretch to be able to pull it off or?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: Repeat?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 6: Yes because they're so deep they have absolutely quality Depth
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: and speaking about health right, now got Hurt hurt Is
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 6: Jallean williams in the third quarter he hurt himself with
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: his left hamstring, injury so they're gonna hold him. Out
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: but The thunder one of the few teams that have
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: absolutely quality depth and as long As shay is there
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: as a difference, maker no matter what, happens that star
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  Speaker 6: power with schae Jillis. Alexander he can create magic on the.
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  Speaker 6: Court and that they were able to overcome any injuries
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  Speaker 6: that they have right, now so it does. Happen the
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  Speaker 6: intensity is gonna kick up three notches every, round So
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  Speaker 6: SHA's will lead that, group so Will case And wilace
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  Speaker 6: off the. Bench Alice, Crusoe Chet hungrim is, Tremendous Isaiah
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  Speaker 6: hartenstein's a really good banger, inside and now they Have
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  Speaker 6: jarret McCain and they'd so many other guys that just
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  Speaker 6: play hard and with skill and besides adding ALSO i
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  Speaker 6: left out purposely defensively Lou. Dort so if that's gonna
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  Speaker 6: happen a back to back, champion it would be probably
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  Speaker 6: The thunder the last time it happened with The Golden State.
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  Speaker 7: Warriors and this shows you how it's hard to.
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  Speaker 6: Win winning is so hard in the playoffs because there's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: so many variables and the defense is. Fierce it's so
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: that's why showing in playoff basketball there's so many missed
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  Speaker 6: shots because it's the first, time in the first time
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  Speaker 6: for a lot of young players that they're playing on
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: the influence of physicality of trying to guard. Them and
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: that's why it'd be so strong, mentally but also upper
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  Speaker 6: body strength to absorb the contact and to finish through
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  Speaker 6: to get either a mid range jump. Shot most times
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  Speaker 6: in playoff, games the defense runs you off the three point.
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  Speaker 6: Line so the shot of choice is the opposite of
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  Speaker 6: THE nba, season is the mid range, game not the
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  Speaker 6: three point.
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  Speaker 3: Shot, gordy who's gonna emerge from This Denver minnesota series
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  Speaker 3: and whoever that? Is are they a potential threat to
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  Speaker 3: win The?
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  Speaker 4: West?
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  Speaker 6: Yes first thing is that they don't Like Sean Are
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  Speaker 6: there're absolutely arch.
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  Speaker 7: Rivals they do not like each.
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  Speaker 6: Other so right, Now jane McDaniels last game when the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: T wills beat The, nuggets he said that the Whole
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: nuggets team are bad.
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  Speaker 3: Defenders so we played that sound, yeah, okay just dismissing
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  Speaker 3: everybody on the whole.
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  Speaker 6: Team there you, go all, Right So sean IF i
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  Speaker 6: am The. NUGGETS i am absolutely taking it. Personal Right
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  Speaker 6: so now it gets. Interesting the game is gonna be
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: uh tonight in The Twins, city and the question is
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 6: Philosophically Jamal, Murray who's who's a tremendous. Player he's struggling
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: from the. Floor he's only shooting twenty seven point three
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  Speaker 6: percent from threes getting, Back i'm talking about where they
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  Speaker 6: run you off the line into a middle. Game even
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  Speaker 6: though he's getting to the foul line making his foul,
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  Speaker 6: shots he's only shooting overall in this series thirty eight
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  Speaker 6: point three. Percent he's the counter of that as far as. Ascending,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 6: Also Anthony, edwards a first TEAM nba, performer is only
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: shooting from three point range twenty five percent and from
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: the field thirty eight point. Six so the question is,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 6: philosophically who can make baskets? Now is A Julius? Randall
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: is A Christian? Brown is A Nikoli jokic who's played
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: tremendous for. Them But jokice right now from three point
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  Speaker 6: ranges three for. Fourteen last, game former jazz Man Rudy
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  Speaker 6: gobert did a yeoman's job of just slowing Down jolkic
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter Where Jamal, Murray Nikola jokicic shot
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 6: two for twelve and now it's the. Difference now those,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: guys those guys right, Now sean are thinking about that
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: last fourth quarter and that opening a quarter, tonight they'll
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  Speaker 6: be ready to.
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  Speaker 3: Roll let's go back to Your celtics prediction here for a. Second,
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  Speaker 3: okay why The celtics and not the number one seed
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  Speaker 3: out of The.
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  Speaker 4: East The.
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  Speaker 6: Pistons experience, yeah, Experience. YEAH i like The. Pistons they're
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: really a fun story where they two years ago they
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: were absolutely inept and now this past season did the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: first seed and they won sixty, games which is really. Tremendous,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 6: however where we learned about the play in playoff, basketball
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: experience does. Matter it does, absolutely and so playing through
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  Speaker 6: physicality and making baskets out of, NOTHING i call it.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: Chaos scoring in most playoff games is that your set.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: Offense even though it's commendable during a regular, season it doesn't.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: Happen so now you've got to score Off we call
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: it concepts where when you get the ball into the dependent,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: area whether it's direct pass or off the, dribble can
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: you penetrate and either love, pass finish in traffic of
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 6: turn around jump shot in mid range or kick it
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 6: out for a three point.
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  Speaker 7: Shot AND i.
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  Speaker 6: Like The celtics doing that because The celtics have a
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  Speaker 6: whole bunch of guys that can score. Points, again for the,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: listeners here's The celtics starting. Lineup Peyton, pritchett who's three
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: point shooter and he's got some. Toughness he's in the,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: Lane Derek, white one of the best two way players
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: in THE, Nba Jlen, Brown ALL nba, Player Jason, tatum
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: which is really one of the most fun stories in THE.
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  Speaker 6: Nba or if they're devastating injury less Less may is
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: now playing tremendous in the, playoffs and then Go nikolausovich
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  Speaker 6: as far as their. Center then off the bench they
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 6: Go Sam hauser who's a knockdown, shooter And Baylor shireman
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: who can make shots, also and So Luke garsa And
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 6: cato From Utah. State SO i like their. TEAM i
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 6: like the way they play, defense even THOUGH i know
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: it's gonna be a it's even as gore as they, are,
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  Speaker 6: uh it's still gonna be tough as far as most
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  Speaker 6: series should, go showing six or seven games because you
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: know why the other guys are. Good, also there's nothing
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: like the playoff. Basketball it's so, intense and that the
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: players that are successful are the ones that can stay focused,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: mentally and that they shoot forward not, backwards showing a
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: lot of times in, basketball especially at a younger, age
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: where players take a shot and miss it and for
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: the next five possessions they're thinking about the misshot versus
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: in THE nba, playoffs the shots, missed it's, over get
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: back on defense and try to get get the ball
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: back and more, importantly your next shot you're gonna. Make
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 6: and that's why it's So that's why it's so paramount
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: is to play forward not. Backwards also showing when we
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: think about the, playoffs winning is. Ugly winning is. Ugly,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: oh how come the guys can't run their? Offense and
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: the reason why it's because so the defense again is so.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: Fierce so most games in playoff basketball are, ugly But,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: sean we love being.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: Ugly, well winning ugly for, me in regardless of the
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: sport is the mark of really good. Teams if you
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: can win when it's pretty, well you're front. Runner anyone
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: can do. That you have to be able to win
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: when a game gets mucky when somebody gets, hurt when
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: it gets. Physical sometimes in THE nba, especially that can
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: be a little bit slow because it's free throws after
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: free throws after free. Throws but got to be able
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: to win in those. Conditions, gordy what's your list? Today
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: my list today.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: Is THE Nba Korea playoff leaders in most made three point.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: Shots So korea made playoff. THREES i cut it to twelve,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: players and everyone knows these guys'. Names sean three point.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: Shot it started the nineteen eighty playoff. Season so this right,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: now this is the forty sixth season of THE nba playoff. Three,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: quickly what the corner three is twenty two? Feet THE
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: nba all three extended is twenty three and nine. Inches
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  Speaker 6: and In, SEAN i know your favorite abaight days where
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  Speaker 6: you saw on video recently THE nba three point. Shot
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 6: THE aba three point shot is a twenty five feet And,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: sewan you love seeing that, red.
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  Speaker 7: White and blue. Balls great.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: Ball that's exactly, right it really. Is so that's twenty five.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: Feet here's the quick list all time leaders of most
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: Made korea playoff. Threes number Twelve Kobe bryant to ninety
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: two number, eleven J. R smith to ninety four number,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: Ten sewan right on, Point Jason tatum two ninety, five number,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: Nine Danny green three, fifteen number, Eight Reggie miller three
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 6: twenty number. Seven Mono, gerobli who's won of the all
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 6: time great player performance with three twenty four number. Six
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: he's gonna play against The. Lakers Kevin durant three sixty,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 6: seven number. FIVE i had the pleasure Coaches guy in
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: At Seattle sonics and he was an Unbelievable he's the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: second greatest ever shooter of all. Time Ray allen three eighty,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 6: five number. Four he plays for The. Cavaliers He's Don
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: mitchell sydkick in the back. Court James harden four forty
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: One May korea threes number, Three Lebron james third all
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 6: time with four hundred and eighty three triples in the,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 6: Playoffs number two for The Golden State warriors formerly now
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: he plays for The Dallas. Mavericks Klay thompson at five oh.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 6: One the number one greatest ever three point shoot as
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 6: far as career makes in playoff history Is Steph curry
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 6: with six hundred and Fifty may threes in the. Playoffs,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: quickly what About jazz. Basketball who's the greatest Ever korea
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: made three point shots In jazz playoff? History that Is
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: Donovan mitchell in thirty nine games he made one twenty.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: Nine and the second greatest ever three point shooting in
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: playoff issue for The jazz Is Brian russell who made
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: one twenty.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 7: Six. Wow, so, Thus, sean that's my list of.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: TODAY i would not have Put Donovan mitchell Or Brian
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: russell at the top Of jazz history in the.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: Playoffs, Interesting, yes you learn something new every.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: Day that's why we Bring gordy in and his encyclopedic
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: knowledge of all THINGS nba. Basketball, gordion who are Your
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: jets gonna?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: Draft, Sean i'm a torch Its, Sean i'm.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Tortured so every TIME i mentioned The, jets you See
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: gordy's his, complexion his countenance go from being one of
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: positivity and sharing wisdom and, knowledge and then it's becomes
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: exactly that.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 7: Tortured you're, Right, SEAN i, Am i'm tortured The.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: Jets if you're A jet fan LIKE i, Am it's
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: like there's never been a team that's so showing.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 7: Incompetent really is that the Word i'm.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: Using it's a great word for.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 6: Them, yes they don't get it, right like for like
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 6: showing sixty years like it's it's hard to do that
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 6: that like that.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: Long they've got the number two, pick and a lot
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: of people think that's gonna Be David, bailey the defensive
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: end From Texas. Tech we'll, see but they'll probably find
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: a way to even screw that.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 6: Up But, sean how about tonight with The utah. Game
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 6: utah players utes because Of.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: Francis, mowingola who is kind of the other guy that
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of people talked about as a top tackle
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: in the. Draft he got a medical report back that
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: maybe he's got a herniated, disc which should be repairable and,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: fine but teams aren't gonna be as patient with it,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: Potentially so there seems to be some consensus reach that
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: That Spencer fauna likely to be the first tackle. Taken
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: the first team that really needs a tackle are The Cleveland,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: browns but they have two first round, picks so there's
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: a possibility they could use that on a, receiver and
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: then if they don't really love any of the, tackles
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: they could move back up from twenty, four where the
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: second pick is to try to get a tackle kind
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: of in the middle rounds And final could be available.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: There SO i think you get two first.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: ROUNDERS i think Both Caleb lomo And francis or sorry
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: And Caleb Caleb blewo And Spencer final both GO i
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: think in the first. Round but we'll see when every
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: time there's a consensus reached and every time it's, like, oh,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: yeah everyone knows this is what's going to, happen we're
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: wrong every.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: Time that's an.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: Understandment that's also THE nba draft also shown gammanship by
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of. Times teams sure where they say things,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: publicly but it's really what they don't mean.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: It, yeah The browns could be, like, oh we're worried
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: about that back injury From, mangoa so then they could
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: just go grab them where they all aways planned on
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: grabbing him with nobody else being worried about. It, anyway
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: we'll watch the. Draft we'll have it right here on
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: Your home of The, YOUTH espn seven. Hundred, gordy you're the,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: Man thanks for your. Time Thanks sewan Peace. Out the
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: head coach Of Running Utes Basketball Alex. Jensen with the
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: transfer portals, settled joins us NEXT espn seven hundred and
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  Speaker 4: Welcome now number three of The shan O'Connell. Show it
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  Speaker 3: uh you know, What we talk a lot of sports
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of. People most of those people have
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  Speaker 3: not heard their name called in AN nfl. Drafts but
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  Speaker 3: our next, guest all the way back in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and seven was the number thirty seven overall pick and
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  Speaker 3: The San Diego chargers first pick of that. Draft his,
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  Speaker 3: name of, course Is Eric, weddle The utah football, legend
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  Speaker 3: a Dub welcome back to the.
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  Speaker 4: Show how are?
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  Speaker 5: You what's?
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  Speaker 11: Up my?
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  Speaker 8: Brother up doing, GREAT a, lot a lot of exciting
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  Speaker 8: days and ahead for this weekend for all the fans
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  Speaker 8: out there that want to see who their team picks
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  Speaker 8: and how they, upgrade and obviously the players seeing where
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  Speaker 8: their new home is for the next four to five.
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  Speaker 8: Years is always the uncertainty and the excitement all rolled in.
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  Speaker 3: One do you remember how you were feeling heading into
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  Speaker 3: draft day or in draft days back in two thousand and, Seven.
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  Speaker 8: YEAH i MEAN i remember pretty. VIVIDLY i don't remember
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  Speaker 8: a lot of. Things maybe that's more my doing than anything,
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  Speaker 8: else but, YEAH i remember all my family and friends
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  Speaker 8: were at the. HOUSE i remember going golfing in the
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  Speaker 8: morning with my dad early morning, round knowing that the
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  Speaker 8: first round was going to be super, long and getting
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  Speaker 8: back around the fourth pick of the, draft third or fourth,
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  Speaker 8: pick and waiting around six and a half. HOURS i
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  Speaker 8: think the first round was the longest first round in
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  Speaker 8: the history of The. Combine AND i think they changed
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  Speaker 8: the timings of it after that, draft which would have
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  Speaker 8: been nice here. Before but, yeah and then just waiting
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  Speaker 8: the waiting, game and towards the end of the first,
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  Speaker 8: ROUND i remember there are a couple of teams that
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  Speaker 8: potentially could have taken me where The patriots Picked Brandon
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  Speaker 8: wiriweather and then obviously The chargers Picking Buster davis at
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  Speaker 8: thirty and when those two picked past kind of like all,
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  Speaker 8: right re, recentering and then they're looking at the, board
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  Speaker 8: AND i think from pick forty to, FIFTY i think
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  Speaker 8: there were five teams in that range where they had
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  Speaker 8: said we would take you IF i was. There so
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  Speaker 8: we had a pretty good idea in the second round
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  Speaker 8: THAT i was going to be going off, shortly and
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  Speaker 8: then everything crazy happened to pick thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Seven The Chicago bears were the.
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  Speaker 3: Beneficiaries The chargers traded up to Get Eric weddle and
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  Speaker 3: ended up having a, nice nice little career there in
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  Speaker 3: THE nfl for those of you who didn't get to watch.
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  Speaker 5: It so.
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  Speaker 3: This year we've got a really interesting draft where it
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  Speaker 3: seems like a foregone conclusion that quarterback number, one and
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  Speaker 3: then there's a lot of questions, about you, know what
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  Speaker 3: position is valued most in this first, round what teams
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  Speaker 3: are going to try to move, up especially teams with
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  Speaker 3: multiple first round draft, picks if they're going to stay
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  Speaker 3: where they're, at if they're going to package those and
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  Speaker 3: try to CLIMB i have always, SAID i think that
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  Speaker 3: there's eventually a future For Eric weddle as AN NFL
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  Speaker 3: gm or somehow in AN nfl personnel. Department from a philosophical, standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: right if you're in a draft like this, one how
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  Speaker 3: are you APPROACHING i, mean obviously team need would would
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  Speaker 3: factor in. Here how are you approaching a draft like
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  Speaker 3: this where there's not a lot of consensus on who
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  Speaker 3: the best players.
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  Speaker 9: Are?
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  Speaker 8: WHY i think IT'S i think the perception of this
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  Speaker 8: draft is maybe not as talented or is, deep just
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  Speaker 8: because of the quarterbacks or lack thereof from a. Group,
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  Speaker 8: right you got you Have mendoza presuming presumably the number
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  Speaker 8: one overall preak now in draft prior, draft he probably
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  Speaker 8: wildn't even be a first round. Pick so it's just
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  Speaker 8: interesting to see how it all worked, out how the
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  Speaker 8: chips fall And Kyle simpson From alabama is probably the
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  Speaker 8: only other guy that could go in the first. Round
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  Speaker 8: so as a as a usually you base it off
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  Speaker 8: the talent of the quarterbacks and then everything mark works
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  Speaker 8: its way off of. That so it's a little down
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  Speaker 8: in that, sense BUT i think it is a really
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  Speaker 8: deep draft with offensive lineman. Receivers now DO i think
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  Speaker 8: there's a like a a true number One Calvin Johnson
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  Speaker 8: Jamar chase type. Receiver, no BUT i still think there's
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  Speaker 8: about three to five that could go in the first.
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  Speaker 8: Round AND i THINK i think seven offensive line that
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  Speaker 8: we are going to go in the first round. Tonight so
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  Speaker 8: WHEN i When i'm looking at my team AND i
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  Speaker 8: And i'm debating on like A love or an edge
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  Speaker 8: rusher Or love and alignment that are very similar, Grades
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  Speaker 8: i'm always gonna go with the old LINE d line
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  Speaker 8: with the impact because you can find certain positions through
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  Speaker 8: rest of the draft and have a huge, impact but
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  Speaker 8: those studs at those premier positions are hard to.
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  Speaker 3: Find So i'm glad you Mentioned Jeremiah love, because like
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  Speaker 3: we've we've heard the conversation for two decades now ABOUT
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  Speaker 3: nfl running backs and whether it's a devalued position or
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  Speaker 3: Whether guys Like Derrick henry And christian McCaffrey and some
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  Speaker 3: of these individuals have have highlighted the fact that when
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  Speaker 3: you have someone who's truly, special when you have an,
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  Speaker 3: outlier it's absolutely not a devalued. Position these ARE mvp
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  Speaker 3: candidate type players in THE, nfl and they play a
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  Speaker 3: running back position where a lot of people, yeah third round,
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  Speaker 3: guy you can plug and. Play but Is Jeremiah love
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  Speaker 3: an outlier from what you've seen from? Him is he
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  Speaker 3: a guy that we can put in that rarefied air,
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  Speaker 3: with like, well the two GUYS i just mentioned with
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: The Derrick, henry with The christian, McCaffrey with The Saquon,
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  Speaker 3: barkley et.
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  Speaker 12: CETERA i don't not that maybe he. CAN'T i just
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  Speaker 12: think that those are the those are the. Anomalies think of.
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  Speaker 8: How dynamic and productive the kid last year Was john
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  Speaker 8: To blaine for The, raiders but.
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  Speaker 13: Gent and look how look at the adjustment he had last.
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  Speaker 13: Year and it's a whole different. Ballgame and if you're
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  Speaker 13: a running, back there's only so much you can do
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  Speaker 13: when the guys around you aren't up to the level
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  Speaker 13: that you need to create lanes and cutbacks and you,
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  Speaker 13: know have an adequate passing game so you can so
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  Speaker 13: the run can feed out the.
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  Speaker 5: Pass SO i don't think.
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  Speaker 12: SO i think those guys are you, know.
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  Speaker 5: Generational every every decade you may see.
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  Speaker 8: One you could, say Maybe.
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  Speaker 14: Jamar gibb in recent history would would fall in line who's,
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  Speaker 14: who's but he eases his way into.
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  Speaker 5: It his first couple of years in the.
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  Speaker 15: League he was never a bell cow at the.
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  Speaker 8: Gate he was a third.
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  Speaker 14: Down running, back and then second year and then thirty
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  Speaker 14: and then finally took over From. Montgomery so DO i
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  Speaker 14: think he's in every down?
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  Speaker 7: Back?
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  Speaker 14: Yes DO i think it is extremely, talented, Yes.
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  Speaker 8: But i'm just still, Philosophically.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Not i'm not dropping the running, back never in
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  Speaker 5: the top.
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  Speaker 4: Five.
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  Speaker 12: Uh you, know for every for every talented.
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  Speaker 14: Guy like, love there's only One Adrian peterson and.
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  Speaker 5: Or Derrick.
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  Speaker 8: Henry But Derrick henry went in the in the, TWENTIES
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  Speaker 8: i believe right or or where.
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  Speaker 14: DID i can't remember Where Derrick henry got, dropped BUT
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  Speaker 14: i don't. KNOW i obviously think as a really good,
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  Speaker 14: planner BUT i do think it's hard for running back
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  Speaker 14: to be THAT mvp type planner right out the. Gate
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  Speaker 14: and when they do become, that then you're then you're
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  Speaker 14: forced to pay, him which most teams aren't going to
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  Speaker 14: be paying their.
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  Speaker 3: Interback Derrick henry was the second round or forty forty fifth.
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  Speaker 14: Overall, YEAH i.
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  Speaker 15: KNEW i didn't know the second, round BUT i knew
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  Speaker 15: it was late late First, uh and it just goes
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  Speaker 15: back to you can find running backs right like the,
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  Speaker 15: day the days of a running back that is the
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  Speaker 15: leading rusher in the league that leads you to a Super.
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  Speaker 15: Bowl it's just it's not not the case.
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  Speaker 8: Anymore.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 15: Right you build your team through the, quarterbacks through the
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 15: weapons on the, perimeter, obviously, scheme, philosophy, culture all, that
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  Speaker 15: and then, defensively running back is not very high on
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  Speaker 15: the priority list of how you want to build your.
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  Speaker 3: Team getting back to the offensive, line, Obviously utah's got
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: two guys that are potential first round picks headed into
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: this draft who play that, position and they played the
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: premium position of offensive.
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  Speaker 4: Tackle and we've Seen i've.
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  Speaker 3: Probably read every, mock every, article coal about every, projection
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  Speaker 3: and we've Seen Spencer fano start the process as The
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: Outland trophy winner as tackle number, one and then as
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: the weeks progressed and the conversation, progressed you saw him
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: as low as four on some people's, boards tackle number.
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  Speaker 3: Four and then most of the consensus now seems to
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  Speaker 3: be back that, no he'll be the first tackle, taken
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: it'll Be cleveland pulling him off the. Board and that
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: highlights how absurd the publishing is with all this types of.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: Stuff but when when you Watch Spencer, Fano let's say,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: that you know The Cleveland browns are, like, hey well
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: we need an EMERGENCY, gm you get to make our.
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  Speaker 4: Pick is that where you're?
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  Speaker 15: Going holy? Smokes of COURSE i.
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  Speaker 5: WOULD i.
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  Speaker 15: WOULD i would love to Have spencer on my. TEAM
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 15: i don't know the roster. Configuration where is our biggest?
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 15: Need where DO i have everyone else graded compared To?
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 15: Spencer and, listen his traits are just elite and it's
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 15: gonna be able to Easily you can easily envision him
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  Speaker 15: in THE nfl being, productive high level pro, bowler all
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  Speaker 15: pro at either tackle or, guard and people are, saying,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 15: well if you move him to, guard, like, YEAH i
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 15: know some incredible. Guards nelson comes to, Mind Marshall, yonda
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 15: who Are hall Of fame type? Guys like, yeah WOULD i?
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  Speaker 15: Waste not a? Waste WOULD i pick him anywhere in
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 15: the first? Round if he's gonna end up being, that
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  Speaker 15: you bet your TAIL i. Will SO i really don't
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  Speaker 15: buy into. Guards don't go that. HIGH i think if he's,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 15: elite that will be a starter out the gate and
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 15: will play ten. Years you're worth the first round pick to,
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  Speaker 15: me especially a premium position that protects the quarterback or
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 15: gets after the. Quarterback So i've seen the same things
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  Speaker 15: anywhere from six to the. Twenties when the first one,
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  Speaker 15: GOES i think the. Lineman when the first one, goes
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 15: you're gonna see a run on the lineman go right
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 15: because those teams that are in need of it don't
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 15: want to be left. Out so you can see trades,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 15: happen you can see, Movement so if that happens With,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 15: cleveland you could see hopefully It's, spencer but if, not
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 15: his name will get called quickly after.
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  Speaker 4: That cleveland's in a.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: Situation there's what THERE'S i think there's four or five
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: teams that have multiple first round draft. Picks The cowboys
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: have a, couple The giants have a. Couple cleveland's got a.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: Couple cleveland's at six and at twenty, four and they're
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: offensive line need. Heavy they also need, receivers and this
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: draft is good for. Both and there's some disagreement whether
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  Speaker 3: the offensive linemen are more elite in this first round
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: or whether the receivers are more elite in this first.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: Round SO i don't know Why i'm talking so much
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: about The. Browns it's only because fauna is projected by
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: a lot of people to go. There but if you've
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: got six and you've got twenty, FOUR i THINK i
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: know your answer to. This you're using six for, alignment
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  Speaker 3: twenty four war for a receiver or vice.
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  Speaker 4: Versa, no, no, No i'm going.
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  Speaker 15: LINEMAN i think the linemen are much deeper and more
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 15: talented over the course that you're projecting for the. FUTURE i,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 15: SEE i see really good. RECEIVERS i don't see special
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 15: receivers As i'm being honest And i'm not drafting a
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 15: guy in the top fifteen at receiver IF i don't
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 15: see all pro special type. Talent you, know you have
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 15: those outliers like Them Na kuas and you know the
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 15: Mont saint brown was in the second, Round so, yeah those,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 15: Happened but that's those are the, outliers, right like top tier.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 15: Talent and there's obviously bus that happen every, year but
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 15: historically that the Jamar, chases The, jeffersons The Calvin, johnson's
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 15: like these guys they get drafted high because they are
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 15: elast special, talents and it translates so some have, injuries
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 15: some are. Underside SO i don't. Know i'm going lineman
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 15: If i'm debating between the two AND i Or i'm
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 15: going those defensive, players The, reef The, styles The, bailey
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 15: The Caleb, downs, like those guys are cornerstone defenders that
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 15: will be on your roster for the next ten.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: Years i'm really fascinated by The Sunny styles conversation because
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: he is obviously a mega, athlete and he's a really
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 3: good football. PLAYER i don't think he's like a Future
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 3: hall Of fame football player despite his. Athleticism it reminds
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: me of was it what's his first? Name Isaiah, simmons
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 3: the kid From clemson a few years ago who was
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 3: built exactly like this and had freak measurables exactly like,
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 3: this and he has not popped in THE nfl the
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 3: way that obviously his draft position expected him. To SO i,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 3: MEAN i Hear Sonny styles being given like he could
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: be A Fred warner type. Player it's Like Fred warner's
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: game is not predicated him being the best athlete on the.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: Field that's not Why Fred warner is such a great.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 3: PLAYER i worry more Than Sonny styles Is Isaiah.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 4: Simmons, yeah you.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 15: Do there's some points to that WHEN i took gage
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 15: AND i went out To ohio stayed a few weeks,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 15: back And sonny was there AND i actually got to
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 15: spend about twenty minutes as talking one on one with.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 15: Him his coaches brought him over to me and we're
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 15: just chatting and talk about like a rock star of
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 15: just a from a man, standpoint like the character really
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 15: LIKE i think that has increased his value when you're
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 15: dealing with guys as the unknown per, se AND i
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 15: do like man he is he is a, big big human,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 15: being not, like, yeah he's a muscle, wise but he's,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 15: Tall LIKE i don't know what his exact, measurements BUT
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 15: i think he's closer to six five than he is
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 15: six six two or sixty.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: THREE i mean he's a.
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  Speaker 15: Giant AND i almost think like he's a he's an edge,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 15: rusher if If i'm being, honest And i'm If i'm
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 15: projecting that even though he played off ball and he
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 15: was he was, PRODUCTIVE i just think he could. Do
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 15: he could he could be A Swiss army. Knife now
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 15: DO i? None none of these guys like are they
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 15: gonna Be hall Of? Fame like we can't really project,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 15: that BUT i look at us like, this if the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 15: guy is gonna come in be a PRODUCTIVE nfl starter
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 15: who has a ceiling that maybe is A Pro bowl
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 15: all of pro, player if he does everything correctly and
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 15: works his butt, off he has, character he'll he h
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 15: is an extension of your vision and. Culture like that's
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 15: worth it for, me, Right like That's i'm happy with.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 15: THAT i think that's a home. Run and if they
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 15: end up being these all world generational type, players then
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 15: then that's icing on the. Cake but you, can't you.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 15: Can't you gotta have a bunch of guys that that
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 15: buying the cultures that are good, people good guys that
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 15: are ball that are. Coachable AND i think he aligns
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 15: with all those, characteristics AND i think that's why he's
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 15: going to go. High obviously he's really, talented BUT i
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 15: think those other characteristics have helped him to the draft.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: Process how MANY nfl gms do you think are as
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: dialed on character as an important trait as you? Are,
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: LIKE i mean, AGAIN i believe your future at some
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: point is doing personnel, management maybe on a college, roster
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: maybe on AN nfl. Roster i'm making your plans for,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 3: you but, UH i love. It but like that's who you.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: Are you care about. Character you judge people on, Character and,
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: yes talent is, important but you're you're a guy Who
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be as impressed by talent as
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 3: you are by. Character how MANY nfl gms are the?
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: Same, WELL.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 15: I think that the bad organizations probably don't think too
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 15: much into. That they're more into. Analytics they're more into
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 15: numbers and in, height, weight, strength, speed, explosive all this dumb.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 15: Stuff at the end of the, day that really doesn't
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 15: equate to how they how do they assimilate into a,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 15: team how do they how do they buy into the?
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 15: Culture how do will they engage and interact with the?
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 15: Teammates how do they are they? Coachable are they good?
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 15: Teammates do they will they? Compete will they look out
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 15: for each? Other like those things. MATTER i really believe.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 15: That and you look at the successful teams across the.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 15: Board that's what they. Emphasize, Right like you get into THE,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 15: nfl right like the top one percent are like different
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 15: difference makers in the sense that like they're just better
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 15: than everyone else at their. Position but the rest of
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 15: the ninety, percent you want guys you could, Trust you
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 15: want guys that are going to buy in and be
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 15: about the team and not about like, Myself, yeah you gotta,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 15: individually you gotta think about being the best verson from.
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 15: Myself so ultimately the team has, success but it can
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 15: never be more about yourself and the team and so
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 15: trying to figure that out through the process and having.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 15: Importance like if the guy is a complete, dickhead but
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 15: he is the number one talented best player in the,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 15: Draft i'm not taking him because eventually you're gonna he's
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 15: gonna break the locker, room he's gonna have issues when
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 15: it comes to contract, time like all this other headaches
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 15: that at the end of the, day like it's just
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 15: not worth. It like you got to build a team
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 15: and no one person's gonna be the difference between winning
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 15: championship or, not and you never want that one person
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 15: to be bigger than the culture or the. TEAM i.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: You you put out a tweet about your own future
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 3: that you know you're gonna stay At Rancho, Bernardo you're
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: gonna you're not leaving When gage, leaves and, uh you
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 3: know people have asked about it it like what was
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 3: the impetus for? This is everyone harassing you and just
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: like assuming that that is your. Plan why did you
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: feel a need to address this?
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 15: Publicly, well it's it's just like you, Know i'm Very
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 15: i'm very happy and content in the What i'm doing right.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 15: Now and, yeah HAVE i had. Opportunities every YEAR i
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 15: get asked to coach or different type of, roles whether
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 15: it's college OR. Nfl but what people don't, understand, well
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 15: people that know, me you know, me like what comes
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 15: first in my.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 4: Life it's, family my.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 15: Family so AM i just gonna, say, Hey silver And,
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 15: camery you're you're gonna be a junior in high, school
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 15: And camera you're gonna be an incoming, freshman and, Hey
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 15: dad's gonna leave you guys and go work somewhere else.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 15: Where you guys are gonna stay here in high School like.
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 15: That it's just not even. Logical it's not a. REALITY
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 15: i don't even entertain it because it's just Not it's
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 15: just not something that will ever. Happen So i'm hearing
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 15: a bunch Of San. Diego i'm hearing it from families
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 15: and kids through other people that, Oh, Eric eric's gonna.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 15: Leave this is why we're not coming to his high.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 15: School and it's, like hold, on, Guys, uh so that
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 15: really was a basis of, it and to to just
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 15: remind people that this is WHO i.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 5: Am i'm?
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 15: Happy what is?
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 5: It is it?
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 15: Humbling and, uh you, know do?
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 5: It does?
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 15: It does it feel? Good like people want want me
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 15: to come help? Them, yeah but it's just not a
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 15: reality at this point until my kids.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 5: Are done with high.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 4: School last thing before we let you.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: Go And i've avoided talking about this BECAUSE i don't
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: like the soap opera stuff it's, like especially when it
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: comes to people's marriages and personal. Life it feels icky
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: and because it's you, know families are broken up over these.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 3: Things but, uh the the Bike Rabel Diana rassini stuff
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 3: once again is in the headlines on draft.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: Day he's skipping the.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 3: Draft they announced it yesterday before more tabloid reports came.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 3: Out and THE nfl has its share of scandals in
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 3: locker rooms and stuff all the. Time it's actually not
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: all that common for the head coach of a, franchise
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 3: especially a respected, franchise to be the focus of something like,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 3: this And, rabel of, course as a former, player has
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: kind of that as, well his reputation as a former.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 4: Player how how.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: Is this being handled in The patriots' locker, room if
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: your your head coach is now the.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 15: Distraction, YEAH i mean there's there's there's so many ways
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 15: to talk about.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 5: This right like.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 15: Who AM? I who AM i here to sit here
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 15: and judge what someone else is doing in their personal?
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 15: Life Right LIKE i DON'T i know WHAT i try to?
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 8: Do AM i?
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 15: Perfect?
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 5: No DO i make? Mistakes of?
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 15: Course so at the end of the, day people need
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 15: to really like understand like he he didn't do anything,
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 15: wrong person say in for his, Job and is it bad?
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 5: Media of?
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 15: Course is it sharing a bad light to the newing
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 15: patier of, course, like and he's he's got to deal with. That,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 15: ultimately you got to answer to your family and your
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 15: wife on whatever had. Happened, Okay but as a, player,
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 15: listen a lot of you know that's that's just not, uncommon,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 15: okay and unfortunately you wish it was, uncommon but it's.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 15: Not so IF i was on The patriots and all
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 15: this stuff's going, on, like, yeah DO i look at him? Differently?
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 15: Yeah but at the end of the, day, like my
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 15: job is to be the best player to leave this,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 15: team And rabel's my head. Coach so if he's still
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 15: my head, coach Then i'm gonna listen to him and
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 15: go to. Work SO i don't. Know it's obviously a
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 15: distraction and they got to figure that, out but you
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 15: have to have some type of maturity about it and, understand,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 15: LIKE i don't need a head coach to get me
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 15: ready for a. GAME i don't need a head coach
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 15: to motivate me and, this.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 5: That and the.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 15: OTHER i need a guy that just corrals the, team
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 15: keeps us going in the right, direction leads. Us, now,
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 15: yeah is his leadership in question a little bit by
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 15: his out the field actions a little, Bit but, hey
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 15: you're a football, coach so go coach the. Team what
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 15: you do on the outside is your own, doing and
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 15: you got to answer to that and then obviously the. Team,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 15: now it will be interesting if there's any evidence that
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 15: something went on the, facility like at facility, grounds whether
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 15: that place or other, places then you know that's obviously
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 15: that's a whole other. Issue BUT i don't. Know OBVIOUSLY
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 15: i don't agree with. It people know, Me but ALSO
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 15: i understand THAT i got a job to, do AND
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 15: i don't like guys have a lot of stuff going
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 15: on outside the building And at the end of the,
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 15: DAY i just try to be there for teammates to
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 15: be a helping hand for whatever they. Need But i'm
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 15: not gonna sit here and throw stones at them because
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 15: that's just not my.
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: Place The, chargers The, rams The ravens all going to
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 3: be drafting over the next three. Days whose draft are
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: you most fascinated?
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: By the teams you played?
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 9: For?
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 15: Oh, Wow rams at thirteen is very. Interesting they have
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 15: so many different choices that they could. Do if they
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 15: highly covet, someone they could trade, up they can pick
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 15: whoever lands to them at, thirteen they can trade back
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 15: and get another maybe a second round, pick third round,
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 15: pick so that that's a prime. Spot chargers as. WELL
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 15: i think they're picking at or are they picking twenties
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 15: somewhere around.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 4: There chargers have twenty.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 15: Two, yeah SO i think they've gotta get a difference
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 15: maker on the, perimeter whether they trade up or. Trade
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 15: they need some they need some talent on the. Perimeter
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 15: they got their two tackles coming, back SO i don't
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 15: feel like offensive lines of need.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 9: In those.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 15: Emphasis so what difference maker is there obviously determines that
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 15: and The RAVENS i think are at fourteen or, fifteen
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 15: and same. THING i know they lost some, linemen so
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 15: they're definitely in the right prime spot of grabbing one
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 15: of those. Linemen and they're always looking for corners and edge,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 15: rushers so be on the lookout for those guys as.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 3: Well that Is Eric, weddle The utah football legend and
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: in my, mind the FUTURE Nfl hall Of. Famer love, you,
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 3: Dude thanks for your time as, Always love, you bro
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: head coach of The Rancho Bernardo broncos by the way
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 3: for the foreseeable. Future don't get it twisted if you're
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 3: living down there In, Palway, california or the Greater Sandy diego,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 3: area and you know IT'S i think that some people
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 3: just just don't understand like his commitment to making sure
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: he maximizes the experience of all of his.
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 4: Children it's not just his.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: Son gage is the most prominent of THE wedtl children
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: from a public, perspective, obviously but that's not how parents
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 3: view their.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 4: Kids eric is not the. Guy he's got three daughters
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 4: and one.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 3: Son, okay oldest daughter has already made her announcement on
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 3: where she's going to, school and it's not The university Of.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 3: Utah all, right every one of us hopes That eric
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 3: or That gauge will come play for The university Of.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: Utah he's getting recruiting visits To Ohio state And georgia,
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 3: People so just mitigate your expectations with that in. Mind
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 3: and by the, Way michigan, two who has a certain
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: former head coach Of. Utah by the, way people with
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 3: very strong it's gonna be familiar ties are now At
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: michigan where and and look Like gage is gonna make
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: a good. Decision he's a kid with an unbelievable head
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 3: on his, shoulders especially given how prominent he is and
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 3: how he's being talked. About And eric And chanell have
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: done a really great job with their. Kids but he's
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 3: not going to be, like all, right, well Because gage
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: is my most important, kid because he's following my footsteps
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: and he's doing my football, Thing i'm gonna do whatever
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: makes the most sense for him with you, know no
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: regard for the two younger.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 4: Daughters, well also it's not how he.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: Is, yeah also speaking to, that him being that family
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 3: man that he is that you know like way better
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: THAN i. Do but he's he's been very genuine about
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: about talking about that.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 4: Too, Too so someone like me feels LIKE i know
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 4: him that.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: Way you gotta you gotta realize too that behind behind
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 3: the scenes and all, that it's not just it's not
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 3: Just wettel making that.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 4: Decision that's.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 3: Right he's got a, partner he's got his wife who
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 3: also has an important say in that. Too and also
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: there's an age factor. Here he's forty years, old, okay
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 3: so when he is forty six, ish he's gonna be
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 3: an empty, nester his kids will be out of the.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: House forty six as a time to start in earnest
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 3: your second, career YOUR nfl, career your college coaching, career,
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 3: whatever that's still very, young so like he doesn't have
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: to be. Impatient oh and on top of, that he
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 3: made a lot of money in THE, nfl so he
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to do these things for financial. Reasons all
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: of that put together factors into Why Eric weddle. Is
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: if he says he's, staying or he says at least
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 3: right now he plans on, staying then that's.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: What he's gonna.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: Do and he says in the tweet for at least
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: the next six, Years so that gives if anyone's gonna
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 3: get antsy about. It six years from now they can
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 3: start nancy about. It so what really needs to, happen,
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 3: okay is if you are if you're hoping That Gage
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 3: weddle comes To, utah AND i guess there's probably a
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 3: lot OF byu fans who feel the same way because
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 3: they're recruiting him. Too they were the second school to
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 3: Give gauge an, offer and that's where his older sister's
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: going to. School you're if you really Want Eric weddle
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: to be a coach In Gage weddle to be a
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 3: player at The university Of, utah you got to recruit
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 3: his wife and his two younger daughters to want to
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 3: come do their high school experience in the state Of.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 3: Utah you got to Convince chanelle, that, like, hey we've
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: got the best whatever soccer program for your youngest daughter
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: At Skyline High school or. Something that's the only thing
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: that's going to get them out of. There, Anyway big
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: thanks To. WEDDLE i always love checking in with. Him
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 3: he is a great.
• 2:15:54
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  Speaker 3: mentioned yesterday he is a REAL rsl. Fan, OKAY i
• 2:17:32
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• 2:17:56
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• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: your home team stadium and that's in any other scenario
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• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: hey we want you to support, ourselves but we know
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: that a lot of you are gonna be here because Of.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: Messi they put up special bleachers because they demand was
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 3: gonna be higher because Of. Messi All, right it was
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: a five hundred dollars per ticket get in price because
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 3: OF messi so that's. Different and THEN i saw, this
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: this is a national, story And, James you're gonna have
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: to answer for this because you're The Red sox fan around.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 4: Here oh, boy this is.
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 3: Upsetting there's currently At Fenway, park in The Red sox team,
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 3: store there's currently A yankees section you can go By
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 3: yankees gear At Fenway. Park and it started with them
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: just selling greatest rivalry in baseball. Gear they HAD t
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: shirts with both, logos they had, records they had hats
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 3: that have like a sort of a bat skull and
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: crossbones With yankees on one side And Red sox on the.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: Other but now they just straight up Sell yankees, memorabilia
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 3: including like commemorative stuff that you hang on your office
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 3: wall of all The yankees. Championships it's not even just
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 3: a peril because you're The yankee fan who forgot to
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 3: bring Your yankee. Hat it's, like, hey do you want
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 3: a commemorative home plate that lists every championship year for
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 3: The New York.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 4: Yankees that should be.
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: Sold online and In yankee store and maybe even in
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: your general Baseball like if there was A Dick sporting
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 3: goods In utah that had, THAT i bet oh.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 4: WEIRD i don't know how Many yankee fans we, got
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 4: but The Red sox selling it is. Blasphemy it really.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: Is oh, See, like, honestly the only place For yankees
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 3: gear In Fenway, PARK i, mean with the with the
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 3: reluctant acceptance Of yankees fans coming to, visit is the
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 3: bathroom or the. Dumpster that's honestly the only, place the
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 3: only place that it's appropriate to have, that let alone
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 3: selling it in your. Store AND i get THE i
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 3: get the, rivalry you, know trying to. Monetize, hey we're
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 3: the greatest. Rivalry AND i get Having yankees logos on
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 3: that sort of. Thing it's the crazy fan in me is,
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 3: LIKE i still don't think i'd want to buy that
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 3: because it's got A yankees logo on, It BUT i
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 3: probably would think about it because it is about the.
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 4: Rivalry, yeah it's If.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: Utah if we go up to The Red zone store
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 3: And utah is selling A Holy war shirt or A
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 3: Holy war hat with both.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 4: Logos it's got a helmet for both of. Them, yeah
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 4: Like i'm buying. That i'm, like, Cool, yeah that's.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 3: Fine if they even if it's like two players facing
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 3: off and one of them is In crimson and the
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 3: other one is In Royal, Blue i'm, like, fine that's.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: Acceptable if then they also added a selection OF byu
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 3: hats AND byu, CLOTHING i would be, like who's in?
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 4: Charge fire this?
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  Speaker 3: Person yet it's, like it's just. Unholgical if you go
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: down to THE byu bookstore That barstool And Dave portnoy
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 3: rated the best bookstore In america and you Find utah,
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 3: gear there's drum and feather stuff in. There riots in
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 3: provo and that is the appropriate reaction your, rival your
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 3: action usual rival And yankees Red sox is one of
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 3: the top, billing most intense, rivalry's most, meaningful rivalry's longest
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 3: standing in the history of. Sports it's, crazy it's. DISGUSTING
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 3: i don't like. IT i would have saved it for
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 3: the airing of, grievances But i'm out, tomorrow so it's
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: it's a terrible. Thing going back to the local. Thing
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 3: with That Andy arson brought to many people's attention On,
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 3: TWITTER i don't THINK i agree with you for in
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: that specific, circumstance go ahead and sell Into miami, gear
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: Particularly Leonel messi jerseys in THE rsl team store at the.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 3: Stadium but when you have that many, people pat you
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: knew you were gonna have to bring in extra, Seats
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: like you, said why do you close one of your?
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 4: Teams that one doesn't make?
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: Sense and maybe maybe it was a space, thing but
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 3: you got it that that's more upsetting to me than
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: than Probably Lionel messi jerseys being being sold in the
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: in whatever team stores that were open At America First, Field,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 3: like that's that's a miss, there you, get, like you,
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: know how much more merch you might have been able
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 3: to sell Into Miami messi jerseys OR rsl hopefully it'sn
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 3: OF rsl gear if you had all your stores open
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: right with that many more people visiting your stadium than
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 3: you've had all season and maybe in a long, time
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: like maybe, Ever like that's that's a.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 4: Miss.
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  Speaker 3: Uh remember how we talked so much about you don't
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 3: want to be the guy to follow the guy When
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 3: Nick saban was retiring At. Alabama, yeah And calin De
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 3: boor had this amazing short run at The university Of
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 3: washington and he's the guy who got the, job and
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 3: all of us were just like, man that's.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 4: Tough that's a tough act to.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 3: Follow all of us around here were, like love that,
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 3: guy but, MAN i don't.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 4: KNOW i don't know about that.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 3: Situation and then he lost two games out of the first,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 3: three and everyone In bama was just, like don't fire.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 4: Him we knew, it get rid of.
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: Him we knew that Soft West coast guy was not
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: he he's from The.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 4: Midwest you can't have.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 3: It, well it's all working out well For kalin de
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 3: Bor he just signed an extension that will keep him
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 3: At alabama through twenty thirty. Three january thirty, first twenty thirty,
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: three extends him and gives him a. Raise he's now
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 3: making twelve and a half million dollars per, season and
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 3: it's effectively only a two year, extension but the money
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 3: The rays goes across the entirety of those, years so
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 3: he's making a lot of dough and he did make
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 3: college football. Playoffs so they're eight and four against top
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 3: twenty five teams, though but that's good enough even At
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 3: alabama for a twelve and a half, year twelve and
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 3: a half million dollars per year. Salary i'm happy For
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 3: kalin de BORR i want him to be successful even
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 3: At alabama at a place THAT i a lot of
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 3: people who Aren't alabama fans root, against right WAS i
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 3: was that impressed with him At. Washington he seems like
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: a really, good nice guy, Too SO i want him
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 3: to be successful. THERE i don't think he's earned. THAT
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 3: i don't think that's a good move By alabama at this.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 3: Moment like he missed the. Playoff his first, year had
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 3: a respectable year anywhere almost anywhere. Else but he goes,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 3: nine he goes eight and, four nine and, three, whatever
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 3: winning season still and given that that's really it's always
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 3: really tough to follow, legend that's a pretty good. Season
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 3: then he, okay he makes the, playoff but then squanders
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 3: a seventeen point lead in the playoff to a so
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 3: So oklahoma, Team and that tells, you you know.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 4: What make him the highest paid coach in the.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 3: Land the other part about, IT i just don't know the,
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: why because if it's you just want a, championship, obviously
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 3: most of the time that's, predetermined, right most of the
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 3: guys get a huge to get an extension in a
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 3: raise makes him the highest paid in the, land and
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 3: that's like it's like an automatic. Trigger Almost Kurt signetti
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 3: had this, happened basically ran.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: BEFORE i just, like you.
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 3: Do this to build a fence around your coach's who's
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 3: coming For kaitlin de boor right?
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 4: NOW i Mean michigan, did but now they're.
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 3: Not he already said, no, yeah and maybe this was
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 3: the response to. That and it's just taken this long
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: for it to become, public for us to get the
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 3: official terms of the. Track but, yeah, man a wild
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 3: overpay even for, that it feels it feels strange For.
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 3: Alabama But, alabama their athletic department is. Flush they Gave
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 3: nato it's one of the top contracts in college basketball
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 3: because he got to The sweet sixteen, again and they're
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 3: just like they're happy to pay down. There, politically it's
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 3: smiled upon as much as it can be In, Alabama
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 3: like there's they don't get the university athletic department has
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 3: as much support as is reasonable to expect from like
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 3: the entire, state from the, legislature from the, governor from.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: Everything it's not like At washington In, oregon right, like
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: you start Increasing Dan lanning's salary too high and there's
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 3: people in the government.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 4: Who we're gonna just be, like, whoa, whoa, whoa what
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 4: are we doing here for a football?
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 10: Coach?
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: Really, yeah that's not a thing In. Alabama there's a reason,
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: why like the big paychecks In california for the most
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: part go to the private school because people are going
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: to be, like hold on a, Minute we're not paying
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars for a football staff at a
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 3: government school here because someone's going to cause a stink about.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 3: It but At alabama you can do, this and they.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 3: Did In kaylen De bor gets a big. Extension and
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: What kaylen De bor is going to buy to celebrate
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 3: is A Kobe bryant card from nineteen ninety seven that
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 3: sold for three million. Dollars did you see? THIS i
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: did see. This, yeah rookie. CARD i guess ninety, seven
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety. Seven there IT'S i, know the card, thing
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 3: the trading card thing is exploding. Again AND i think
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 3: that's cool because it's nostalgic for. ME i collected trading
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 3: cards in a time where they were just like, Overprinted
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 3: so none of the cards from my childhood are actually
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 3: worth anything because none of them are truly, rare and
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 3: modern day cards are. Rare they're doing like some some
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 3: things where they have like a one Off jersey patch
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 3: signed By Josh allen and they've only it's truly one
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 3: of one. Cards This Kobe Brant Metal Universe Precious Metal
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 3: gem green. Card, wow that's a. Mouthful PMG's precious metal.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: Gems they. Are they're actually rare in a time where
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 3: cards were not. Rare this was excellent. Forethought it's a metal.
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 3: Card it's nine out of one hundred and one through
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 3: ten were, green eleven through one hundred were. Red So
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 3: Kobe bryant is a GREEN. Pmg and this card sold
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 3: for three point one five million dollars.
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 4: Trading. Card you pull that out of a, pack you
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 4: have won the. Lottery.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 3: Seriously and the, medal by the, way not, gold not
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 3: a precious, medal just like aluminium or. Aluminium it's the
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 3: highest price ever paid for a Be brian, cart the
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 3: most ever paid for a basketball.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 4: Card.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 3: Jordan let's see, here five point nine million. Dollars that's
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 3: you have too much money if you're paying, that so
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 3: like double what this card went for is. WOW i
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 3: DON'T i don't feel good about people paying that for trading.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 3: Cards but you wouldn't, Again i'm a cheap. Skate, yeah
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 3: you're The you would Be, Tom tom what's his last,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 3: Name Tom, Dundon, Dundon if you were a sports, owner
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 3: if you own the, jazz it would be.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 4: None of you are getting FREE t.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: Shirts someone on our text line yesterday was, LIKE i
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: don't like the FREE t.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 4: Shirts saw THAT i don't like. IT i was, like
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 4: you want a, souvenir go buy?
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 9: What all?
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 4: Right all Right?
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 3: Tom or just get the free one off the back
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 3: of your? Chair all, Right?
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 4: Tom all?
• 2:30:57
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• 2:31:00
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