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Ep.261: ''Therapy Expo 2025 In Less Than A Month!" with Molly Benson & Charlotte Speer · The STA Clinician Podcast

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You're listening to the Sports Therapy Association podcast putting evidence
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back into soft tissue therapy.
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Hi people, how are you doing? Welcome to episode 261 of the Sports Therapy Association podcast.
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My name is Matt Phillips, creator of runchatlive.com.
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And as always, this episode is being recorded live on the Sports Therapy Association
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YouTube channel and Facebook on a Tuesday night at 8pm.
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If you're listening to the podcast and you'd like to join us live,
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that's where you have to go on a Tuesday at 8 o'clock.
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For example, already in the house, I'm saying good evening to you all.
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I'm looking forwards to catching up with you all soon. And that's Gary Benson, founder of the STA.
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And congratulations, Gary, on your recent hitching. I'm very excited for you
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and can't wait to see you and your lovely wife. How does that sound?
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Also, Nikki Mansfield is here as well saying, hey, hey, hey,
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can you believe it's Therapy Expo time already? I know.
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Once upon a time, we used to say, oh, it's Christmas soon. Now it's,
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oh, it's Therapy Expo soon, which I think they'd be quite happy about.
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It's kind of like it's replaced Christmas, isn't that? That's blasphemy, I think.
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But anyway, so, and Glenn Murphy's in the house as well. people are flocking in
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are very excited to hear about what's late the latest
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that's happening for therapy expo when you do join us live then obviously you
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can ask questions to our guests directly and i get to bring your comments up
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on the screen so it's a quite a good network networking opportunity if you are
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listening to podcasts and you fancy doing that that's all you have to do eight
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o'clock sports therapy association youtube channel or facebook.
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Right then. So in the previous episode, we celebrated reaching five years of weekly podcasts.
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And I was joined by Emily Gilbert of Framework Sports Massage,
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who gave us her top five things to look out for at MSK conference,
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which included discussion about creating a welcome space, diversity in therapists
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attending, approachability of speakers, having a space for discussion and more.
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And I know these are themes from having worked with the Therapy Expo team,
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which they try and do every year as well.
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So I'm looking forward to hearing about that with them. And in tonight's episode,
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we will be hearing from them directly because I'm going to be joined by Therapy
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Expo content producer Molly Benson, show manager Charlotte Spear.
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We were going to be joined by Vernon Smead, who I know a lot of you have met,
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who is the business development manager, but Sally's not able to be with us
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tonight, but we send our best wishes to Vernon.
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I'd also like to take this opportunity.
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Because I don't do it enough, just to mention that I've got,
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once again, a speaking presentation going on at Therapy Expo.
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If I don't say it now, no one else is going to say it, are they?
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So if you are going to Therapy Expo, then if you're free on day one at 3.50 p.m.
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In Theatre B, just before the wonderful Michelle Lyons appears.
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Then I will be delivering this year mindful strides, communication skills for
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working with runners and anyone else for that matter.
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I added that bit recently, and the wonderful staff at Therapy Expo,
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even after deadline, said, yeah, we can add that on.
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Because it's not just for if you work with runners i don't want to make make
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people think oh no i don't work with runners that's not really interesting it's going
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to be all about communication skills for working with anyone who is
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human and it probably works with animals as well maybe horses as
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well so if you do want to improve your communication skills
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then do come along to theater b on day
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one at 3 50 p.m i would love to see
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you right i've got out of the way i hate promoting myself
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on these things but someone's got to do it haven't they so and i'd
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love to have people there it's it's we all feel it
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we all i've been at therapy expo now probably
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2000 yeah 2014 of the first year and i always have these reoccurring dreams
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i had one the other night showing i'm thinking about it too much where you just
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go in there and there's about five people one of them's normally asleep so believe
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me however many times you've spoken at these events you always worry that no
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one's going to come along in the end everyone does that's fine but we're only
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human and we worry about it so yeah see you there hopefully anyway back to tonight's episode.
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Very excited to hear what's fresh at Therapy Expo this year.
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We'll have details very shortly about discount codes, whether you're an STA
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member or not, and also about exciting new things happening at the NEC in Birmingham.
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So do stay tuned as I now bring up our guests for tonight, Molly Benson and Charlotte Spear.
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How are you hello thank you very
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well thank you wide awake not a tired face
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on screen whatsoever at the moment fantastic you guys
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been working hard haven't you first of all i must say because you've had a little chat thank
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you so much i know you've been working really hard and it
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has been an effort to think i've got to do what now another
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hour but i really appreciate your time thank you no we appreciate
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we appreciate being asked to do it as always well it's
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worth doing we've all known us each other for a while now so just
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give us an idea has today been all therapy expo have you got other
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things going on as well all therapy expo and
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so we work on the show all year round molly actually also runs the content for
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another event called the care show so yeah she has the pleasure of working across
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two events but for me it is 100 therapy expo for 12 months she says with a smile And I love it.
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And I love it. Yeah, you do. Everyone who knows you and has seen you there knows that you love it.
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And I'm sure we'll get treated to another spangly dress this year as you walk
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around, just illuminating everywhere you walk. Absolutely. Absolutely.
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So that, if you listen to the podcast, is Charlotte Spear speaking.
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And Molly Benson's voice. How are you, Molly?
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I'm good, thank you. Thank you for having us on the podcast again. Absolute pleasure.
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We should repeat again, just for people who aren't aware, you are no relation
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to Gary Benson. Unfortunately not, no.
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Unfortunately not. He'll like that. and we i should actually
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say now that gary is married so there's absolutely no chance
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of anybody listening now he's gone you've missed your opportunity people gary
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benson has now been taken so yeah you've
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lost your chance but you can still be his friend i'm coming to therapy expo
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and you'll see us there at a stand but just get rid of any other thoughts you've
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had right went on far too long about that so amazing thanks for joining us yeah
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i think it's important to remember that yeah therapy expo doesn't just happen
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like oh about two months to go better start looking at that now it's an all-round
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thing isn't it that starts pretty much.
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The hour before the other one finishes. That's when you're on it.
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Give us an idea so people don't understand why that process is so long.
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I mean, I start quite early out, partly because there's a lot of research involved in my role.
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It's part of my role is to sort of keep my eyes on the ground and know what's going on in the sector.
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And that's a year round thing. That's not just like you say,
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the two months before the show.
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So to have an idea of what's going on in sort of government stuff,
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legislation, funding, workforce, all these massive big picture things.
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So I talk to people all year round to make sure that the stuff that we do put
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on in November is reflective of a whole year worth of change and educational updates.
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So that process starts starts quite early on.
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And even so from from our side, who looks after mainly the exhibitors sponsorship.
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Different sponsorship platforms.
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So we have to work on the 2026 floor plan two weeks ago.
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So we need to make sure that everything's set up so that we can go on site with
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new show dates for next year, the save the dates,
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comms that we're going to be distributing on site, special offers on site,
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floor plan for next year, the tickets for next year, the different rates we're offering.
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So yeah we're we're as much
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as we are five you know four weeks to go until
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this year we are already working on
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what's going to take place next year and we've yeah the
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themes the ideas the streams the speakers it's
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uh which makes it fun it keeps keeps us going we're
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adrenaline junkies yeah it is i was
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just thinking of that yeah you must be bungee jumping or skydiving it's
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just yeah you need it all the time it's good there's people like you exist otherwise
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because it is a massive show and i believe looking at the website just
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to give people an idea in case you haven't seen the website all this information
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is on there but we're looking at something like over 100 specialist speakers
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150 certified cbd sessions which i think is more than last year if i remember
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rightly 150 exhibitors 2 000 delicates expected is it bigger than last year.
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It is. I mean, that number's gone up. That number needs updating.
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We're more, we're around the more sort of 145 mark for speakers at the moment.
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So yeah, a big, a big faculty.
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A big what, sorry? Faculty. Oh, I know. I was just joking. I know you're tired.
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And, and was that the intention? Are you going to ever reach a stage where you
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think, listen, that's probably enough now.
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Let's just deal with what we've got. Or is there room for this expansion?
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To be honest, because it is a complete multidisciplinary event,
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This industry seems to be never-ending.
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Every year we come to the table with so many ideas and so many exhibitors and
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streams and features and themes we're going to implement.
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And it's just impossible to go from zero to 100.
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So for this year, as Molly's mentioned, we have grown our CPD sessions.
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We've grown our speaker numbers.
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The floor plan itself has grown by 15%. Theatres are bigger.
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But you know I always say you
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know this year is going to be the best yet but we
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have we've got a five-year plan so there's
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definitely no stopping now I mean Therapy Expo we're
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we are we've got so much room for growth
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expansion I think there's so much still that we could be doing so many innovative
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features and offerings at the event but you know I say slowly slowly it hasn't
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been slowly slowly we have grown extensively every year but there's there's
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still a lot more planned so yeah watch this space.
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That's brilliant. It was a great hook if ever there was one.
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Before we get into it, I'd like to talk a little bit about how it's evolved.
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I know you've both been involved post-COVID, so kind of particularly you,
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Charlotte, from 2021 onwards.
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I'm keen to hear how it has changed over the years. But I thought before we
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do that, because there's been going to be people who are tuning in this because
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they want the important information. The elephant in the room is how can I save
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some money? What are the codes and things at the moment?
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If you're an STA member, then there is a code for you guys, which you can get
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in the latest newsletter. You can get from the STA members only page.
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You can get from emailing us, matt at the STA.co.uk or gary at the STA.co.uk.
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And you can get that code. We're not going to say it out loud because this is
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one of the prizes of being an STA member.
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But I'll give you another little clue that if you become an STA member for like
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£70 a year or something, you'll get the code and you'll probably save money.
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So there's another way of doing it, even if you're not an STA member.
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But there are a lot of offers going out there. What's the current price people
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are going to be looking at the moment if they're using a code?
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What are they looking at? What could they be saving?
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So the current price of the ticket for the two days at the moment is £229.
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Various organizations, associations, membership platforms are offering 15% discount codes.
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So that takes the price down to £195. pounds.
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That being said, we are on a deadline. So Halloween, the clock will strike 12
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o'clock and the prices are going up this Friday, the 31st of October.
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Prices are going up. They're going up to £299.
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Even with 15% off, it will be £254.
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So now is absolutely the time to secure your ticket and save some hard-earned money.
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Definitely. It means I'm going to get this podcast out tomorrow, which will be the 29th.
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And hopefully it'll be ready by lunchtime. So people, there's normally,
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obviously with podcasts, when they first come out, that's when a lot of people hit it.
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So yeah, if you listen to this, you've got until the 31st, till midnight strikes.
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I will say you've left it to the last minute.com. But hey, life can get in the
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way and you've got a month to go.
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But if you talk to people, you'll know what Therapy Expo offers.
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And hopefully saving a little bit of money will help push you over that decision
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edge and just launch yourself into it.
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I'm really interested this year, because I think feedback last year was some
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people can only go for one day and what can they do?
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I think we were saying a little bit off air, there is a one day ticket available now.
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Is that right? there is there is and we you know we heard and we totally get
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it some people can only attend for one day and that there's loads of other there's
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loads of reasons why so we totally get it so for this year providing that you
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call our team up so we've got a delegate telesales team who can literally.
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Go from start to finish register you on the phone get your ticket purchased
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they can run through the one day options for you that's really cool i mean that's
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a nice example of of looking at the feedback from last year,
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which we'll talk about in a second,
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but there are people who can only go for one day.
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So I'm going to say a phone number now, but I know there's phone numbers you
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can get on the website if you go to therapyexpo.co.uk.
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But if you are listening to the podcast and you want to jot this down,
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then I'll say it and then you can pause it and repeat it. But it's 0203 978.
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1-6-6-5. So that's 0-2-0-3-9-7-8-1-6-6-5. You'll get through the telecells team
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or just go to the therapyexpo.co.uk website and you'll find details there.
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That's really cool that you're giving that option. It's tricky for some people to do two days.
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If you're umming and ahhing about, oh, should I do one? Should I do two?
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And you're deciding about however much it is.
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If you're umming and ahhing, then do it. If you're not quite sure yet,
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if you're ambivalent, then I would recommend doing it because the number of people I speak to,
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I think they're going to go for just one day then they get to network they
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meet people they get a taste of it it's like a marathon or
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something you're suddenly thinking oh my god i didn't expect this and and
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you'll be kicking yourself and thinking oh why didn't i organize something you'll meet
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people who've organized b&bs and accommodation and
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you'll be so jealous because they're going out saturday evening and sorry saturday
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evening on wednesday evening yeah and doing something
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so if you're on the edge thinking one or two if you're
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in that position where you you could do two i would say do two especially
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if it's your first time just so you can experience it and not kind of
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miss out plus you'll get to see all so many speakers on day two
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as well and it'll be so cool for you so there you
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go the content is different on each day yeah exactly we
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don't run repeat sessions at all because we've
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got so many speakers offering the most amazing sessions
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so we spread them out across the two days and you're absolutely correct you
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know most people that maybe say oh last year especially you know I wish I didn't
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have to buy the two-day ticket on day one by the end of day one we had loads
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of feedback that thank god because we can't wait for tomorrow.
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So, you know, but that being said, look at the conference program,
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obviously highlight the sessions that are most important to you.
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And that is how you're going to pick what day you come.
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That's really true as well. I commend you on the table.
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It's so clear on the table and easy to see, even though it's at so many hours
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and so many speakers, you just scroll and you can see what's in each theatre
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and they're divided into topics.
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So it's not difficult at all to go along and just have a little look at what,
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and then there's a PDF you can download as well, if I might.
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For those people who like to print stuff out and circle stuff with pen and paper,
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you can do that. So it's all very user-friendly, which is, again,
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I commend you on that. It's cool.
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So there you go, people. That's the money question out of the way.
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Just remember to talk to your organizations as well.
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You know, if you're with someone decent, there should be a code there,
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which can save you money.
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So, and if you're not with someone decent, then it's not too late to join the
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STA and now's a good time to do it. So you get your therapy expo price as well included in it.
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So right then let's talk a little bit, let's go back a little bit, shall we?
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Because I think, like you say,
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every year it gets bigger and better and so much thought goes into it.
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So maybe, i mean it started in 2013 in manchester
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which i was at you guys weren't because i'm far older
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than you just doing both in your kind of late teens so
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maybe covid year was a massive one that's the only
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year when it hasn't been around and then it came back at
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2021 which was so weird it's just such an amazing
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memory and i think a really happy memory it's a bit weird
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first of all but then people really celebrated the fact we could kind of
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mix with each other and it's it's great but you guys joined
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well charlotte you joined 2021 did you the team well i
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joined closer still media who run therapy expo
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in 2020 it was that so my career
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has been in running trade shows bridal trade
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shows i did that for 10 years and then
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chose to move companies and we
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went into a pandemic so it was sod's law worked at
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closest still media for a year during covid as you can imagine
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for an events company COVID wasn't the most
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ideal time but we ran several
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different virtual events all fine and then
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2021 I got given therapy expo
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and I got the handover just said you know it's a an add-on to the occupational
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therapy show those that came pre-COVID will remember it was a fairly small event
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lovely event very highly sought after event but it was a small event and And
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the handover kind of said, you know.
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Small industry will only require me to run it.
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And that was that. So I went to 2021 and spoke to as many people,
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Gary will remember, because I was with him for a good few hours at the end when
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I could finally get a chance to talk to him.
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I spoke to delegates, exhibitors, speakers, sponsors, and just went from there really.
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And here we are, you know, 68% in growth in floor space. So it's grown by more than half.
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Theatres are far bigger. Again, watch this space for next year.
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So we've got big plans with theatres. we have several
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open-air hands-on workshop sessions for more
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interactive content we're working
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with the best partners governing bodies in the industry we've got the most amazing
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sponsors exhibitor wise I mean I urge everyone to go and look at the exhibitor
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list because it really will blow your socks off and I've got the best team that's
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the other thing I really do work with um you know I work with the best.
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So, yeah, sorry, have I answered your question? I've just...
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Oh, totally. That's lovely to hear. No, it's great. I feel your enthusiasm for it.
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And I love the fact you mentioned the team because you are a great team.
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And everybody we have contact with, whatever department it is,
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you're so quick at getting back and things get done.
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And I don't know how, I don't think it's because there's so many of you.
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I just think you're all very passionate about it. And you just,
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yeah, time management must be incredible.
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And you must all get on really well together to make the whole beast move smoothly.
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And it's interesting as well because COVID was a time when a
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lot of people with other types of education realized a
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lot of video courses came out a lot of online staff consultations
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and stuff and that's when a lot of people didn't make it
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out of there and a lot of kind of education providers thought I just
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have to go online now and that's a real shame but you
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must have done something quite special because you put on
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something after COVID and then started a snowball effect
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and it grew yeah how how i mean
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you know i work in events and i clearly
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believe that people buy people i i get
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paid to talk for a living you know i love building relationships i love meeting
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new people at the end of the day you know i come from the bridal industry which
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is completely different and therapy expo is you know you've got a clinical and
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vocational delegate profile.
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And everyone involved has real high intelligence.
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You know, I'm listening to all these amazing products and services that are
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available for clinicians.
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And let's be real, you know, none of us are clinicians. But what we know how to do is run an event.
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Build a relationship and listen. The most important part of my job is listening
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to the things that we do well and the things we don't necessarily do as well,
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or listening to what people need.
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You know, we are running an event for an industry to allow people to network,
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get their education, get excited.
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My main goal is for people to come into TherapyX and go, wow,
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what an experience I can't wait for next year.
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And that's really what keeps me going. You know, the after show
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video the content resharing everyone's content seeing
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everyone interacts and i mean molly's mum
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comes to the event as a as a neurotherapist and
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yeah her feedback was actually my favorite she she just she had the best time
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she's got a bit of bias there what's she gonna say to molly yeah i didn't really
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work this year molly sorry oh i don't know she she was very honest yeah she's
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my harshest critic and she had some good words so i'll take it as a win.
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That's great now it's amazing i mean again just absolutely amazing that you
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have managed to make it grow you're doing something awfully right because there's
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such a trend in our industry just to look at,
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sometimes free cpd offered online and it's.
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Just not the same we're really trying to give the message out in the sta and
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the st school anna maria obviously is your biggest fan she's always
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i'm her biggest fan i love her
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i adore her yeah it's just that we're just
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trying so hard just to help people understand
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that our catchphrase has kind of become you don't.
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Pay for these conferences just for the educate just
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for the information if that was true then you could download a
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pdf or watch a video you pay for being there in person interacting
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with people reflecting you know being there
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with speakers teaching you or educating you
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in such a way that you are involved and it's you know you must you're obviously
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doing a lot of that because it's making people realize no i've
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got to be there for this this is not going to be a catch-up video or
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another video which is going to add to my playlist which i'm
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never really going to watch you know so it's it's good yeah molly
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how's it been for you you joined a little bit later didn't you we've had
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liam on the show this is i think this is the fourth time
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i think it's the fourth or fifth count oh no
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it was since 2021 so yeah this is the fifth countdown
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to therapy x where we've done we started off with wonderful liam
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who's still with the organization indeed yep indeed very
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much so and then he handed over to molly
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benson so what year was that i can't remember now so i
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joined the company in 2023 but so i came to
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the 2023 event that liam had done the content for so i
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got to meet a lot of people I got to see what it is that I'd be doing and
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then I started that show cycle sort of January time 2024 so yeah I did the 2024
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show and that was really good fun and it was amazing and then I started for
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25 so this will be my second edition so yeah still a bit of a newbie but still
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very much in love with the show and I'm really passionate about what I'm doing.
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What so so you watched the
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2023 then 2024 was your baby and
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what kind of did you see maybe in 2023 where you
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thought okay now I'm the boss I'm going to make some
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few changes here so things already you had ideas and thought
22:36
because you're very mild mannered and quiet but I imagine to
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do what you do underneath that calm exterior there's
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got to be something inside which is burning quite bright and thinking no I'm
22:45
going to get this done or you would have the job I definitely had
22:48
some ideas that's that's for sure I think the first the
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first one I really wanted to implement was the sort of streams so previously
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we just sort of had theater a b and c and the content was
22:58
just you know you pick and choose what you want I it did
23:01
work because of the multidisciplinary approach but I sort of thought a
23:04
lot of people were saying that if they wanted to filter by topic
23:06
that would be a lot easier to help decide and plan their
23:09
days so we sort of implemented the streams so in
23:12
doing the research I was asking people okay if you had to
23:15
sort of rank your top three topics that you're really interested
23:18
at the moment what would they be did a big sort of grouping project
23:21
and figured out some streams and then sorted all
23:24
the sessions into them so that people could have some sort
23:27
of cohesive plan for the day of what they wanted to do and it wouldn't just
23:30
mean sort of sitting in the same theatre all day you'd be able to bop about
23:33
see exhibitors in between grab some lunch that sort of thing so that was something
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i was really keen on doing and i think it worked really well for 24 so yeah
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we've gone ahead with 25 and it seems to be working again so far so i'm yeah
23:45
I'm pleased with how it's coming along.
23:47
Fantastic. Nikki has mentioned here in the comments. And everybody,
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if you've got some questions, now's the time to ask about what's coming up,
23:52
what you like, what you don't like.
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Nikki Mansfield says, I've been going since 2016.
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2021 to 2024 are by far the best years yet for education quality and community vibe.
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Nikki Mansfield, that must sound nice. Thanks, Nikki.
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I'd say it. Amazing. So let's go, I mean, it's already somehow 8.30,
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but yeah, let's have a little look at what we have got.
24:14
I suppose you may as well give quite a lot away because it's to get people along.
24:18
But what have you got this year that you're kind of excited about and proud of?
24:22
You go first, Molly. I was going to say, so we've got two brand new theatres,
24:27
which we're really happy about.
24:28
We've got the Business Advice Theatre, which came off the back of a lot of,
24:31
obviously, sort of crunch financial times at the moment. A lot of people wanted
24:35
sort of help with clinic.
24:36
What do I track? What do I look at? But also sort of career development.
24:40
Like, what do I want to do with my job? Where do I see myself in the future?
24:43
So we've sort of accumulated that all into a nice theatre with a lot of different
24:47
content, a lot of very engaging, inspirational people who've been there, done that.
24:52
Ready to share their insights so I'm really really excited
24:55
about that theatre and then we've got the practical skills space which
24:58
is again for a hands-on profession it's where
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you're going to get your hands on it's where you're going to be able to try things see
25:04
people doing things and sort of learn in a more
25:07
practical way so again I'm really excited about that
25:09
we've got some good speakers lined up there that's really
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yeah I think those are the two things I'm buzzing for this year and
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again it's it's it's commendable because I know that's
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two bits of feedback which have come back and also
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just where the industry is moving hopefully people are
25:25
realizing now that rather than just having another modality to learn
25:27
nothing wrong with that but have you ever stopped and
25:30
thought what about my business skills maybe I should be talking to somebody to
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help me actually run a business which typically you don't get helped when you
25:36
learn your course when you do your even when you do your degree there's not
25:39
enough everyone says oh you don't learn until you open up
25:41
your clinic and then it's all a surprise and it shouldn't really be that way
25:44
you should be learning how to run a business before then so a whole
25:47
theater dedicated to that is really cool and i urge people
25:50
to have a look through that and even if you think i don't think i need that just
25:53
go along and get a taste you know right from sort of starting out yeah right
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up to sort of like okay i've got my clinic now how do i grow it so any stage
26:04
of your business any stage of your career there's something something for everyone
26:08
in there even things like marketing ai using tiktok.
26:13
Handling insurance and vats and there's
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loads of stuff yeah on the website again business advice theater
26:19
all the sessions are listed there and that
26:22
it's it's essentially tips advice from people that are doing it well and that
26:28
want to share their knowledge and that is really therapy expo is about bringing
26:33
every each other up supporting each other and sharing tips and advice and that's
26:37
really the sense of community we want to bring to the Business Vice Theatre.
26:42
It's very cool. That's great. And the practical space you mentioned,
26:46
that's really cool as well because people, I mean, a lot of people go along.
26:49
It did, like you say, used to be kind of more physiocentric and now you've managed
26:53
to grow and make it truly into a multidiscipline event.
26:57
So the practical side is really cool to see. And also there's a bit of a movement now too.
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I think there was a time when it was like hands-off. It was like people were
27:04
saying it's either hands-on or hands-off.
27:05
And now we're realizing, no, hands-on is part of most patient care. There's
27:08
going to be some element of hands-on mixed with other things so what sort
27:11
of stuff is going to be going on in the practical area then we've
27:15
got so much such a
27:19
long list in front of me right now but things like lymphatic drainage
27:22
massage for lower back pain what else
27:26
local massage therapy taping techniques heat
27:29
treatment foot rehabilitation it i mean it's
27:32
yeah it's extensive there's a
27:35
lot going on and there's a lot of familiar faces but also a lot
27:37
of brand new people on the scene people that are doing really
27:40
cool things and have come along to share it and I think
27:43
what I'm really keen to see in these sessions is yes there'll be demonstration
27:47
yes there'll be a certain sort of speaker and audience interaction but there'll
27:51
also be follow-up from it there'll be questions there'll be would you like to
27:54
come and see how this is done from different angles you know it's it's a very
27:57
interactive space which is obviously very different to our lecture theatre style.
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So I'm really, I'm really keen to see, to see people sort of branch out in their learning styles.
28:06
That's really cool. That's some music to my ears. Fantastic.
28:08
Great example. Charlotte, what are you excited about this year?
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Oh, just being there for me, the exhibitors, you know, I said it previously,
28:20
but the wealth of exhibitors that are supporting us this year is just nuts.
28:27
We've got Hyperice, Hydrophysio, Physique are going to be there.
28:32
Physique are also sponsoring the MSK Theatre and doing loads more education style sessions.
28:37
We've got Vivo Barefoot and Leguano coming to the show.
28:42
We've got obviously the Autogy, Antigravity with SportsMed.
28:47
Scream My Bones are going to be there. We've got the Fitness Group.
28:51
You know, I could go on forever. We have the coolest products available.
28:55
And I guess what actually buzzes me up is
28:58
when you see all these offers and you
29:01
know if you buy your consumables at therapy expo get x amount off and seeing
29:07
people really gravitate and try machines and equipment and products and services
29:11
that they've maybe never got in front of before and online when they're looking
29:16
online one you can't ask questions online rarely you have to wait for an email back.
29:22
Two, you know, you want to try products and services before,
29:24
try before you buy, you know.
29:27
But also the price, the online prices compared to the prices that you get when
29:32
you commit or purchase at Therapy Expo is just nuts and people walk away feeling.
29:40
They've got a bargain, they've got a product and service that is essentially
29:44
going to make them more money or help them do their job better.
29:47
And yeah, they're almost excited to go back to clinic to implement these,
29:53
the new equipment or the new training course, start the new training course.
29:58
Yeah, I think it's the exhibitors and the excitement from the visitors,
30:02
the interactions that I'm most excited about and I always love being part of as well.
30:08
That's great. We should really actually I've forgotten about Vernon which is
30:11
terrible of me but we should mention that.
30:14
I'm sure Vernon had a very important role in that Vernon is the business development manager,
30:19
what is it that what is his responsibilities and what do you think I suppose
30:22
he'd be looking forward to the same sort of thing with the exhibitors that they've
30:25
got this year yeah so the way Vernon kind of joined the team is he was one of
30:32
those people he was one of our exhibitors when I joined.
30:35
He's an ex-clinician as well from the military.
30:38
And he essentially was, you know, giving me some industry knowledge and telling
30:44
me about all the people he knows.
30:46
So I said, come on, Vern, you know, come and join the team.
30:49
So Vernon now brings in the likes of ERIs and PTIs from the military,
30:57
heads of medical from elite sports clubs, and that's across football,
31:00
rugby tennis cricket English National Ballet Bupa
31:04
Nuffield Asenti Ramsey so he kind of
31:07
connects Therapy Expo to certain delegates
31:11
to bring them to the event and he's also in charge of looking after based on
31:16
the streams that we're running what sort of exhibitors align well with the stream
31:20
so if we've got a particular stream for sports therapists okay well what company
31:25
do we need exhibiting that is going to align well,
31:28
that our delegates are going to appreciate seeing at Therapy Expo.
31:33
So, yeah, that's what Vern does. He's a busy guy.
31:37
He's very busy on the day. I don't think I, I don't know, maybe I'm looking
31:40
for him, but he's the person I see moving around so much. Every corner I turn, I bump into Vern.
31:45
I'm like, how many there are you? Have they closed you or something?
31:48
He just moves around everywhere. I keep bumping into him. It's true.
31:51
It's going to be fun. That's good.
31:53
And I think it's worth saying, again, I know, again, from feedback we get.
31:57
Not everybody obviously goes there to buy stuff from the exhibitors,
32:00
but we just i think people need reminding that it's to
32:04
a very large extent it's the exhibitors who pay for the
32:07
everything else in terms of the education and the floor space and
32:10
the ticket price and everything so even if
32:13
you personally aren't there to buy anything the exhibitors they're
32:16
there to help the rest of the thing happen aren't they so it's important
32:19
it's really cool that they are coming along and interested in it because
32:23
i think that kind of puts some people off in the feedback we get but it's yeah
32:26
you're biting off your nose to spite your face if you think oh there
32:29
should fabulous exhibitors no no no no let the exhibitors come in let
32:32
them come in and show their ways because that's what allows you to put on
32:35
such a great show with all the speakers and everything you mentioned molly that
32:38
you got some new speakers this year which is great because i mean one of
32:41
the other bits of feedback we get sometimes i mean everything you can't
32:44
please all the people all the time but one of the ones that was repeated was oh it's
32:46
a bit the same speakers again how do you find fresh talent
32:49
how do you find fresh people to get in is that
32:52
what you mean by doing research from like soon finishes yeah yeah
32:56
but as a there's a couple of alleyways really one's partly
32:58
through research so I do a lot of reading in the initial stages reading
33:02
articles doing sort of deep dives so I pick up
33:04
a lot of names that way of people that haven't potentially even thought about
33:08
speaking before but I reach out to them and it turns out to work out quite nicely
33:12
but I also rely quite heavily on the networks I've built so I think through
33:15
our three recommendations from our advisory board through people I've got relationships
33:19
with through working on the show.
33:23
Everyone's so happy to sort of recommend a colleague or sort
33:26
of recommend something that they've read about or that they they've been
33:29
watching someone that could be really exciting and bring
33:32
something new to the table so it is sort of
33:35
just through my own personal therapy network that i
33:38
find these new people i think that's how the snowball effect
33:41
works isn't it why it does get bigger maybe because if you're networking and
33:44
pleasing people then they're willing to bring
33:47
along their colleagues and recommend you so it's worth putting that
33:50
effort isn't it yeah no definitely yeah we've
33:53
got some got some cool people coming along that i'm very excited
33:56
about have you got any surprises that you're not allowed to talk about
33:58
don't tell me what the surprise is but there's no secrets as
34:04
such there's a couple of recent ones that perhaps have made it
34:07
to the website but haven't made it to specific announcements yet so
34:10
i recently spoke to dr chris rosimus from the
34:14
fa who's going to come along and do a session on nutrition
34:17
and sort of what he does with with the first teams so i'm
34:20
really excited for that one and we've got michael turner the
34:23
medical director from the international concussion and head injury
34:26
research foundation so again sort of someone that i'd never spoken to before
34:30
someone that had never spoken at a conference and we thought we'll match a very
34:33
popular topic concussion with a brand new speaker and see what happens so yeah
34:38
i'm i'm really excited for some of the new names that are appearing this year Jeremy Lewis.
34:44
Oh, yes. Yeah. Good name on there. Jeremy Lewis. Yeah.
34:47
He's also doing a practical skills session. So it's not just...
34:50
Yeah, does not stop talking about that. Yeah.
34:52
She's... Yeah. I think we need to get some security on that for her.
34:55
Well, now you see no Anna Maria now.
34:58
Yeah. Yeah. We've had loads of... She can move. Yeah. Yeah.
35:02
She'll fight. Oh, yeah.
35:06
That's really cool.
35:07
Yeah, it sounds very exciting. In terms of, it's so tricky, isn't it now?
35:12
Because with a month to go, things like accommodation should have been booked already.
35:15
And I remember we've done countdowns in the past saying, because I noticed that
35:18
you guys, I wanted to ask you about this.
35:20
I noticed on social media that there was, I think, more of a,
35:24
push is the wrong word, just more information going out earlier on just to try
35:27
and help people realize, do something now.
35:30
Like now's the time to book ahead. Don't wait until two months. Was that,
35:33
was there a difference in social media was that something you were trying from earlier
35:36
on to help inform people we focused
35:39
we well I think
35:42
previous editions of therapy expo has been you
35:45
know early bird early bird early bird early bird early bird you know early bird
35:49
a week before the show sort of thing and it just never really made sense to
35:53
me so the the marketing that we've written we've grown the marketing team number
35:57
one and we've especially tried
35:59
to push more of an more of the educational content behind Therapy Expo.
36:04
So it's not only who are you going to see and what do they do,
36:07
it's okay, right, how going to this speaker's session is going to benefit you as an individual.
36:14
Attending Therapy Expo and how can you implement that product from this exhibitor
36:19
into your clinic, you know, focus very much on the benefits,
36:22
but also the additional benefits
36:26
of securing your ticket early obviously you know
36:29
we we run a tiered ticket
36:32
system throughout the year so the earlier you book if you so if you come to
36:36
therapy expo in four weeks time and actually book your ticket while you're at
36:42
therapy expo the discount is hefty you know you really do get a cheaper rate
36:47
and that is the benefit of booking earlier on in the year.
36:52
Getting cheaper accommodation earlier on in the year, access to exhibitors earlier
36:59
on, access to the programme, access to different benefits.
37:02
But that being said, there are still accommodations still available.
37:06
I know the Hilton, I believe, is offering a special discount on anyone involved
37:10
in Therapy Expo. There are Airbnbs still available.
37:14
So yeah, don't let that put you off. There's still very much a lot of availability.
37:19
Yeah, there's definitely Airbnbs available. I know that
37:22
from people talking to people they're still around and it's i mean
37:25
i've never done airbnb before therapy expo just like
37:28
i've never really got an uber i don't really go out much so it was
37:31
like but now people are introducing me to airbnb it's incredible the price you
37:34
can pay if you find a property especially if you if you really are with good
37:38
friends you want to share two in a room two separate beds and you can pay very
37:41
little amounts of money to get just around the corner from therapy expo so yeah
37:46
look into airbnb in particular and it is yeah definitely still available.
37:49
And also what you said is really interesting as well, because if people are
37:53
thinking, oh, it's going to cost too much this time, how much do you know offhand
37:56
how much you could get a ticket for 2026 for if you go to this show?
38:01
I'll be honest with you. We are still looking at the ticket price structure for next year.
38:05
I can't say too much, but watch this space. We've got a lot of surprises coming up.
38:10
So I think ticket prices on site are going to be.
38:15
Coming to Therapy Expo 2025 and booking a ticket whilst you're there is going to be very beneficial.
38:23
You are going to reap benefits. And that is all I'm saying.
38:28
Well, could you say two figures or three?
38:32
You can't say it, can you? Substantially lower than it has been before.
38:38
So a couple of digits then. We're trying to support the industry.
38:42
You know, we're seeing so many things pop up, so many different expenses pop up for clinicians.
38:48
And what we're aiming to do, the team are going to kill me for going into this,
38:53
but we really are for 2026, we want to support the industry as best possible.
38:59
And that's going to be through so many different variables.
39:03
This year is a glimpse into what therapy expo has been and you know a progression based on 2024,
39:14
2026 is really going to blow everyone out the park i think she's good isn't
39:18
she she good it's not giving away but just still yeah no i'm getting the truth yeah,
39:25
i am personally buzzing to
39:29
to get on site this year first and foremost and then
39:31
to work on 2026 I cannot wait okay so I can't say too much so okay so there's
39:41
another reason to if you've been gnarling about coming this year then yeah take
39:46
advantage maybe of something that seems to be brewing out there quite special for 2026 wow.
39:53
Definitely. I mean, I can't guarantee, I just want to make sure that people,
39:56
I'm not giving any guarantees here.
39:57
You can't, there's no such thing as the perfect thing for everybody.
40:01
And it's all very individual and what you know, and what do you like being amongst
40:05
loads of people? Some people don't.
40:06
So, but all I can say is that the reason that, you know, like the STA and the
40:12
ST school have been involved for so long, well, since the beginning in the case
40:15
of the STA is because it's a good outfit and it has evolved.
40:18
Okay. At the beginning, there was a few little things and i stopped speaking
40:21
for a few years when i thought hold on this they told me
40:23
to stop talking about pain it's like that doesn't quite work but then
40:27
since covid it's just yeah it grows and grows
40:29
and and just to remind you in case you you see
40:32
that for example the st haven't got the st theater this year
40:35
that's not because we've given up on therapy expo we'll still be there
40:38
as a stand we're just excited to see other things develop and
40:41
we've been doing our own comments and stuff and the same for the st school there's
40:43
not a hands-on hub this year but there's still going to be a massive practical
40:46
session it's just Anna Maria also wants to take a step back and Anna
40:49
Maria and I are so excited because the first time probably in the history
40:52
of therapy expert we'll be able to actually walk around and go and see different
40:55
things and network and talk to people and and
40:58
get an idea of how people are you know face to face
41:01
rather than being stuck in our own cocoon and having to deliver in a
41:04
fraction of the event so I can't wait for it
41:07
we can actually go and have a coffee I know
41:10
well yeah there's different I can have a I can get a coffee and
41:12
listen to someone as opposed to just having a coffee thinking I should
41:15
have had another one just jittering and not really taking in anything
41:18
someone's saying to me I can make time and think I haven't got to be anywhere I
41:21
haven't got to walk around with bits of paper and and really that's what
41:24
it should be like for attendees you should go along
41:27
there calm relax you haven't got to go and see
41:29
anyone you know make your own little timetable but be flexible because you might
41:33
meet someone there have a chat and yeah it might not hopefully it won't go to
41:38
plan because that's where the best learning happens so the more chilled you
41:41
can be and the more you can talk to people then generally that's going to be.
41:43
The biggest learning experience for you so yeah very exciting.
41:50
Have we got any questions coming in? The people in the house here,
41:52
if you're not going to TherapyExpo, maybe tell us why.
41:56
Share why you're not going. If you are going, then tell us what you're looking
41:58
forward to. But we'd love to have some questions from you.
42:00
And if you listen to the podcast and you'd like to ask a question or share some
42:04
experience, whether it's positive, negative, whatever you want,
42:07
then I would recommend putting it on YouTube because the YouTube comments is just better.
42:12
And I get emails, I get notifications.
42:14
So anything you want to know, I can pass on to the TherapyExpo team.
42:17
I'll make sure we get an answer to it.
42:18
So if you listen to the podcast then do if you've got a question yeah put it on the youtube,
42:24
feed it just stays got bigger shelf life it'll stay there and we can answer
42:28
and stuff like that so the best conversations i have are people who have said
42:34
oh i've never been to therapy expo it's just maybe not for me and then of course
42:38
you know i'm i'm interested to want to to see what we can do.
42:43
My goal is I will listen to every single person and adapt the show to suit everyone.
42:49
You know, I want there to be something for everyone.
42:52
And you guys know your business better than I do. But all I can say is look
42:55
at the program, look at the exhibitor offering, look at the governing bodies,
42:59
the membership platforms, the sponsors that we work with.
43:02
And if you see the benefit or if there's a session that you'd love to come along
43:06
to, please do come along.
43:08
And if you're coming in a group, again, call our Delegate Selly sales team let
43:11
us know and we can we can do something on the ticking price for you to make sure it's feasible.
43:16
Very cool. I'm going to bring out some of the comments here that people have been putting in now.
43:21
Nikki Benson, again, she says, the team's approach to research for this year's
43:25
show has been really good.
43:27
I've been contacted by three different team members for detailed feedback and
43:30
recommendation chats. Super proactive.
43:33
There we go. That's working nicely. Amazing. Nikki's been incredibly helpful.
43:38
Gary Benson, founder of the STA, who's here, has said most, I think it's Gary Benson.
43:42
I've ever seen gary benson 4260 but yeah we'll presume it's gary no no one will
43:47
pretend to be gary because you may as well sign your life away somebody tried
43:50
that once and it didn't end well right most sda members who attend book a year
43:53
in advance yeah i mean it is a little bit of education there,
43:57
so so yeah but it is let's just
44:00
go back to nikki here before i pass up nikki says yes i've always
44:03
bought my ticket for next year whilst at the show i'm well happy i'm
44:06
going to be so richly rewarded for my decade-long commitment oh
44:09
nikki you wait oh yes they're
44:11
fine i thought gonna say and and that as well
44:14
yeah yeah yeah that's nikki yeah i was gonna say
44:17
actually it's interesting you say it's getting
44:21
the new people in isn't it because obviously people who go there three four
44:24
five years in a row they're gonna have a whole different series of like oh i
44:28
wish you could have this because they've experienced it but what do you think
44:31
you do effectively or what do you try and do which gets the person who's never
44:34
been there before to come along because i talked throughout the year of the
44:38
podcast i'm obviously contacting people in universities and things.
44:42
And I get people, I can't remember who it was, but I won't say who,
44:45
but they work at university and they talk to their first year students,
44:49
physiotherapy, and they were like, therapy what? And they're in Birmingham.
44:53
So how is that? I know, I'm sorry if that makes your blood boil,
44:56
but how do you manage to...
45:00
Get your word out there rather than just online i
45:03
tell you what this is what makes our job so exciting uh
45:07
the fact that there are still people in the
45:09
uk that have never heard of therapy i think it's
45:13
really healthy to remember that but how do you get them yeah so
45:16
we every everyone knows marketing
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budget is big so we
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do a lot of marketing adverts and and
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brand awareness but what i think we do which
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is most important is we have a whole team of people who call
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personally and have a discussion it's not
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necessarily about selling tickets it's about
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talking to people about what their needs are because like
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I've mentioned you know I've I talked till I'm blue in
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the face it is literally we are
45:48
paid to create an event that people
45:52
want to come back to that clinicians physios chiros osteos
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sports therapists this event is is created
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for you and if if it's
46:02
not working then we're doing something wrong and to be completely transparent
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I want delegates and exhibitors to come back because it makes my life easier
46:11
and the more we're supported and the more we're growing and the more opinions
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and input and collaborations we have as a network all under one roof,
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the show just thrives on that.
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And that is, I'm proud to say what has been happening.
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And I mentioned previously, again, you know, we've got a five-year plan and
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I'm super excited about 2030.
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You know, 2026, oh my God, can't wait. But 2030, I really think,
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you know, I think that's where we're going to be.
46:44
Really thriving I think that is the time of
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when Therapy Expo is going to get to the point where
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it should be because there's so many aspects of the
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industry that we're still not tapping into there's so many clinicians that aren't
46:56
coming to Therapy Expo and it's a lot of work you know there's we're we're a
47:00
large-ish team but there's there's only so many conversations we can have every
47:04
day so we're growing on our telesales team having those conversations we meet
47:09
every single week, all of us.
47:11
And we have a chat, a get-together, we snowball ideas, working with the advisory
47:17
board, working with our partners and clinicians that come to the event, the MSK organisations.
47:24
You know, this year we've got FSEM, MACP and Basrap supporting the MSK conference.
47:30
We've got so much input and it's just really exciting
47:34
to get those people that haven't been offering them
47:37
something where they go okay yeah i want to come now and then
47:40
seeing them repurchase their ticket every year it it really is a proper dopamine
47:45
hit for us i think for me as well some of the most interesting conversations
47:50
i've had especially sort of further out from the events and speaking to people
47:55
that i have never even heard of it they're people i just sort of stumbled across on social media.
48:00
And it's really interesting to understand why they might not have ever considered
48:03
coming to shows like this.
48:04
Like you say, they get sort of stuck in a bubble of doing online CPD or that
48:08
they're just quite happy within their small clinic.
48:10
But actually, when they realise that there can be huge benefits of breaking
48:14
out of the silos or even just trying some different bits of CPD that they might
48:18
not have even considered before can actually be incredibly interesting.
48:22
And I sort of take it as a challenge upon myself. Every sort of reason they're
48:25
firing at me of why they'd not thought about coming or why they might consider not coming.
48:28
I'm sort of like okay how can we make a show
48:31
that responds to as many of these as possible in a
48:34
way that then works for everybody so i
48:37
think it is really important to continue to sort of get new people along
48:40
and adapt the show to the feedback that we're hearing but likewise
48:43
we're so we're so grateful for our sort of
48:46
fan base and our familiars that that we see year on
48:49
year you know we rely so heavily on them for support and feedback
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and guidance so yeah well put
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i like it yeah it's good i think
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there are so many people who still haven't heard it and i'm always just paranoid almost
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of that we're not reaching we're dropping the ocean and and it
49:05
is great the work you do and once the once people get
49:08
there they can come along to the sta stand obviously and get
49:11
even more informed go along to the st score and maria and all the other
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people there come along at 350 at theater b on
49:16
day one learn loads about communication but yeah getting people new people there
49:20
is so important for the industry there is a bubble we live in on social media
49:23
and we we need the people we need more people who don't use Facebook we need
49:27
more people who just hear hear about it by some other kind of message so it's
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really cool to hear the work you're doing on that.
49:35
Wow, look, it's already five to nine. That went quickly, didn't it?
49:38
That's flown, yeah. Isn't that flown? When you're talking about good times, time flies.
49:43
So really excited about that. I've only had one cup of tea.
49:47
Do we need a shout out for the person who bought you that cup of tea or do they not get her? We do.
49:53
Chris is a good tea maker. There you go. Well done, Chris, on keeping Charlotte Spear fuelled.
50:00
That's fantastic. Now, very exciting. so just to
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repeat then october the 31st is a significant
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date if especially for those of you now really is
50:10
your last chance over the next well till the 31st to to
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save 15 off the common price and that includes people have got codes because
50:18
the codes are off 15 off the common price so after october the 31st it's going
50:22
to go up so really is a shout out to everybody if you decided not to go hey
50:26
maybe you'll change your mind and hopefully this podcast will help educate you and
50:30
give you some information. But if you're ringing an R-ing, just do it.
50:33
Save yourself some money before the 31st.
50:36
And also the one day, just to remind people, if you're listening to the podcast
50:39
now and those people listening at home, then call this number 0203 978 1665,
50:45
or go to the website and you'll get details of a one-day ticket there,
50:49
which I think is really cool because a lot of people just can't make two days, end of.
50:53
Okay, so this is a good opportunity to get that return ticket,
50:56
no accommodation and still appreciate a day of networking.
51:00
And learning in person, which has got to make the world a better place.
51:04
I've said the website, that's therapyexpo.co.uk. If you do want to follow on
51:08
social media, then we've got therapy underscore expo on Instagram,
51:12
therapy expo on X, Twitter, when it was the good old days.
51:16
And you've also got Facebook as well, just therapy expo. So loads of information
51:20
and great posts going out there, which will keep you informed.
51:23
But the website's amazing, just the website you can delve into and it's so easy
51:27
to follow. So have a look out on that.
51:30
Right then just to let you know what's happening next week so
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november the 4th at eight o'clock we're going
51:36
to be continuing the topic of cpd conferences with an
51:39
episode entitled after going to an msk this is a
51:42
working title i think we're going to go for it if it fits into youtube after
51:45
going to an msk conference how much actually changes in your clinic trying to
51:49
trim that down but the idea is we're going to talk with five therapists who
51:53
came along to the hands-on hub and STA conference back in September in Exmouth
51:56
and ask them what's changed six months, six weeks later, actually in their clinics.
52:00
A little bit of reflection on, I've been to this educational thing.
52:04
How much am I doing differently?
52:05
And I'm thinking now, actually, maybe we'll do the same thing with Therapy Expo.
52:08
So if you're at Therapy Expo and you like the idea of that coming on the podcast
52:11
six weeks after Therapy Exmo or less, then come and see me.
52:14
I'll be either at the STA stand or you'll see me. I'm tall and got a beard.
52:18
I think that probably narrows it down. But yeah, I'd like to have people have
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been there, come on the show six weeks and tell me how much of it.
52:24
Because I think, like you said already, Charlotte and Molly,
52:27
that's your goal, isn't it? To give information which will actually work in
52:30
clinic, which will make a difference rather than just making you tick a box
52:33
saying, oh, I've gone to see so-and-so. They were amazing.
52:35
How much has that affected you and more importantly, your patients or clients?
52:39
Because that's what it's all about for the industry. So we're going to talk
52:42
about that next week and we'll talk about what ingredients helped that happen.
52:45
And that might be interesting for anybody who's going to Therapy Expo because I
52:48
think it is a case of sometimes changing the chip in your own head when you
52:51
walk through the door and like we say not rushing around not trying to fit in
52:54
as many presentations as possible there's other ways to learn better ways to
52:57
walk away with something so we'll talk about that next week and if you want
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to join us live then again that'll be eight o'clock on tuesday november the fourth.
53:06
Which leads me just to say thank you so much to molly
53:09
benson thank you and charlotte spear
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thank you so much no thank you for your passion and it's
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if i wasn't excited already i'm even more excited now so me
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too i hope i say i hope the
53:20
next four weeks go smoothly for you i know it's gonna be a roller coaster of emotions
53:23
but i also know that it's just gonna be a cracking couple of
53:26
days and it's all gonna come together so all the best good luck over the next
53:30
four weeks thank you yeah it's gonna be amazing i look forward to seeing you
53:33
both everyone who's joined us live thank you very much appreciate it if you've
53:36
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53:44
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53:53
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53:54
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53:57
Until then, take care of yourselves and of each other, and I hope you'll see you soon. Bye-bye.