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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 6-11-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: Har Let's send it back out to the ramos Law
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  Speaker 1: line car accident you need ramos Law medical doctor and
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  Speaker 1: attorney ramos Law dot com or joined by Jeff Legwald.
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  Speaker 2: As we are every Thursday at nine o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, leggy, morning fellas.
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  Speaker 2: So we just talked to one smart learned man.
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  Speaker 1: And Jake Coyn, who gave us the breakdown of the
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  Speaker 1: Nuggets offseason and what should happen?
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  Speaker 2: Can I give you a nerdy question to start this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Broncos gave Pats Tanner rays and then they
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  Speaker 1: converted his base salary for twenty twenty six in future
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  Speaker 1: years to option bonuses. According to over the Cap, his
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  Speaker 1: cap now drops to twelve point six million dollars, down
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  Speaker 1: about four million, and is lower in future years too.
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  Speaker 1: How do you pay somebody more money and it counts
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  Speaker 1: less against the cap.
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  Speaker 4: That's just the cap accounting. When you when you turn
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  Speaker 4: things into bonus, you get to spread it out for
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  Speaker 4: the life of the contract. That's why people turn base
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  Speaker 4: salary into signing quote unquote signing bonus often during the season,
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  Speaker 4: because if the guy has four years left on his deal,
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  Speaker 4: you now get to spread that over four years instead
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  Speaker 4: of base salary is one hit that year. So but
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  Speaker 4: what you need to do that and what the Broncos
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  Speaker 4: have more than anybody else in the NFL is cash
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  Speaker 4: because you have to hand the guy the check all
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  Speaker 4: in one shot. And but this is this is why
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  Speaker 4: some teams are looking at the Broncos like that's going
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  Speaker 4: to be a problem for people, because they simply have
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  Speaker 4: more cash than everyone else and they can do these
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  Speaker 4: things when they choose to.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you've got to be right.
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  Speaker 4: You've got to pick the right players to do it with,
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  Speaker 4: or you end up with the New Orleans Saints and
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  Speaker 4: you've got thirty five guys on your dead money list. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: because you didn't because you didn't pick.
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  Speaker 3: The right ones.
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  Speaker 4: But I think give in terms of safe bets in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, patser ten is pretty much a safe bet.
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  Speaker 5: Today at the Valley, the Bruccos will practice. I will
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  Speaker 5: watch practice, not know what the hell is going on,
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  Speaker 5: and await the interviews afterwards. Davis Webb is expected to
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  Speaker 5: address the media today. Clearly, the question for Davis would
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  Speaker 5: be how much of this offense is he actually going
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  Speaker 5: to get to run?
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, Yeah, I think when you say run, I think
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  Speaker 4: he is gonna call plays on game day. You know,
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  Speaker 4: at least initially, you know, if it goes bad, nobody
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  Speaker 4: knows how it's gonna go. If for some reason, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't have success. But I think you know, Sean
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  Speaker 4: Payton wouldn't have picked him if they didn't think they
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  Speaker 4: would have success. But when it comes to calling plays
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  Speaker 4: in the moment, I think he will have the juice.
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  Speaker 4: You know, now, during the week, much like any other
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  Speaker 4: team where the head coach has been a long time
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  Speaker 4: play caller on one side of the ball, they're going
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  Speaker 4: to be involved with Hey, I like this section of
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  Speaker 4: the playbook this week. I like these third down plays.
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  Speaker 4: I like these red zone plays. There's gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: lot of that because you know, Sean Payton isn't gonna
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  Speaker 4: go all the way to the sidelines, just like Mike
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  Speaker 4: Shanahan didn't whenever he let Gary Kubiak call plays, which
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  Speaker 4: happened once in a while, he didn't just step away
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  Speaker 4: and hold his hands up and say never mind.
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  Speaker 3: So Sean will be involved.
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  Speaker 4: But in the moment in games, it's gonna be the
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  Speaker 4: Davis Web Show because I mean, Sean made the decision
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  Speaker 4: because he wants the offense to move faster and it
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  Speaker 4: you know, you can't tell a ton in OTAs, but
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  Speaker 4: they did move faster, you know when we were out
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  Speaker 4: there and it was Davis Web on the walkie talkie,
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  Speaker 4: you know, into the quarterback helmets.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, that's good, but the bucks still stop With Sean
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  Speaker 6: Payton game plan is still Sean Payton. We've been talking about, well,
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  Speaker 6: I think you gonna utilize this guy better. How much
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  Speaker 6: will Jodah Coleman figure into it? All these different kinds
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  Speaker 6: of things. But if Sean Payton is still drawing up
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  Speaker 6: the game plan with help like always, I mean, isn't
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  Speaker 6: that the base as to what you want to do?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, how much different can it really look? With
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  Speaker 6: Web calling the quote plays?
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  Speaker 4: I like, play calling is a big deal most because,
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  Speaker 4: as we've seen, the Sean Payton play sheet includes several
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  Speaker 4: dozen plays they don't get to in a game. So
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  Speaker 4: sequencing what plays you're picking in what order?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: Do you do you go for the kill shot when
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  Speaker 4: you have a chance, do you you know, how do
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  Speaker 4: you do you go for the big play after a turnover?
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  Speaker 4: All those things are play calling decisions. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: disappearance of the run game often last year, that's a
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  Speaker 4: play calling decision.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, just simply getting the play in.
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  Speaker 4: How often was Bo Nicks looking at the sideline saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: let's get a play in and then they get to
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  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage with nine seconds on the play clock.
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  Speaker 4: That's play calling. Those are all significant play calling. You know,
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  Speaker 4: those decisions have power, and I don't I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to cheapen the fact that that's gonna be Davis Webb
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  Speaker 4: making those decisions. Now, Sean Payton's gonna have a headset
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  Speaker 4: on and there's gonna be plenty of times when he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna say some stuff, But in the moment, much like
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton did to Bill Parcells, in the moment, your
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  Speaker 4: play caller is gonna make that decision. And as a
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  Speaker 4: head coach, you're gonna love it sometimes. And there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be some times on Monday where you say, hey, next time,
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  Speaker 4: try this.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lagwold with us. All conversations with leg you brought
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  Speaker 1: to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBW
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  Speaker 1: Local sixty eight start with a job and with a career.
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  Speaker 1: For a player going into the final year of his contract.
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  Speaker 1: I find it interesting that Marvin Mims decided I want
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  Speaker 1: a new agent heading into training camp. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that he would cause a stink if he wasn't getting
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  Speaker 1: the reps he felt like he deserved in a contract
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  Speaker 1: year in camp.
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  Speaker 2: But could this be a potential problem.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he knows that the writings on
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  Speaker 4: the wall that if he wants a bigger deal, he's
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  Speaker 4: probably gonna have to go elsewhere. I think he's resigned
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  Speaker 4: himself to that. I mean, they traded for Jalen Waddell.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they.
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  Speaker 4: They've drafted what four wide receivers in the last three
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  Speaker 4: drafts or whatever. I mean, they have made their intentions clear.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a you know, there's no shortage of information
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  Speaker 4: on his side of the equation. He's been here for
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  Speaker 4: multiple years with Sean Payton, and every year they say
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  Speaker 4: the same things, and every year he gets roughly the
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  Speaker 4: same number of snaps. So and he just didn't get
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  Speaker 4: a new agent. He got a powerhouse agency. Athletes First
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  Speaker 4: is you know, one of the bigger agencies working in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL.
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  Speaker 6: They've got now do they have a billion clients, but
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  Speaker 6: they got a billion agents, Like I mean, this is
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  Speaker 6: it's heavy duty is a Jerry McGuire.
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  Speaker 4: No, he didn't just go out and say, hey, I'm switching,
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  Speaker 4: I'm switching agent. He went and found himself a powerhouse
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  Speaker 4: agency because I think Marvin's a very smart guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he understands in the NFL, you're not getting very many
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  Speaker 4: swings at free agency and you got to maximize every
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  Speaker 4: single one because that's your earning power. And it's a
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  Speaker 4: very short window in that league. Uh and your you're
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  Speaker 4: earning window is is very tight. So you got this
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  Speaker 4: may be his one really good chance to get any
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  Speaker 4: kind of deal that that he would like. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it will be elsewhere unless something happens here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't expect.
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  Speaker 4: And just in talking to Marvin even over the last
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  Speaker 4: season and a half, I think he's understood that.
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  Speaker 3: And that was even before they brought Waddle in.
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  Speaker 5: Let me tell you something about that agency.
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  Speaker 2: Athletes.
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  Speaker 5: First, at the Super Bowl in San Francisco, they rented
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  Speaker 5: out an old cathedral, an old church, turned it into
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  Speaker 5: a nightclub, invited everybody that was them, that was them.
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  Speaker 5: I was at that one, Jeffrey, were you at that party?
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  Speaker 4: I've been to many parties over the years, not that one.
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  Speaker 2: Is it just because it was a cathedral? Is that
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  Speaker 2: what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Again?
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  Speaker 5: I felt like I was sinful, Like should I be
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  Speaker 5: kneeling and doing a rosary here or drinking this wine?
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 3: It is a little idea.
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  Speaker 4: There is a place in Chicago too that that is
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  Speaker 4: a very has been a very active club restaurant type
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  Speaker 4: place through the years under many different names.
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  Speaker 3: That is a very old former stone church.
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  Speaker 2: But there's one in Denver called the Church Night Club. Correct.
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  Speaker 6: So, so, Leggy's not, You're not You're not down on
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  Speaker 6: the booze doing the E D M thing, glows sticks
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  Speaker 6: and all. It's not it's not your styles.
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  Speaker 3: What you're saying. Oh I never said that moment?
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  Speaker 6: Oh okay, okay, good I didn't you and Reichert berd Man,
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  Speaker 6: I can't wait for the photo.
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  Speaker 3: Wait.
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  Speaker 1: Just on that subject though, just one follow up, because
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  Speaker 1: I've heard Arrett Bulls talk about it, ERD, Jalil McLoughlin
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. I heard Sean Payton anybody who was
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  Speaker 1: asked about Jayleen Waddell says, oh my gosh, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is an absolute godsend to this offense. I get it
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  Speaker 1: because He's probably the most athletic, explosive player you've had
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  Speaker 1: in years on offense for the Broncos. But are are
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  Speaker 1: they putting too many eggs in the Wattle basket? Like
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  Speaker 1: if Wattle goes down with an injury and he's out
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  Speaker 1: for two months, is all that just disappear?
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  Speaker 2: Now you understand what I'm asking? Is it too much
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  Speaker 2: pressure on just the man?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if bo Nicks go out with an injury,
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  Speaker 4: it all disappears, and that's injury. Is I always just
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  Speaker 4: think that's I'm not even sure you can sort of
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  Speaker 4: consider that. I mean, it's just it's gonna happen, So
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  Speaker 4: somebody's getting injured.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: In the NFL, I have scoring though.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Judy every year looked like this amazing guy in
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  Speaker 1: camp and then like the numbers wouldn't be out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm got that a lot of that was the traditional.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we see it all over the league. Social
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  Speaker 4: media has made OTAs and mini camp and even training
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  Speaker 4: camp outsized in the how things are going department that
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  Speaker 4: I I always tell fans be careful of where you're
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  Speaker 4: getting your information. I know, it's very exciting to see
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  Speaker 4: a guy throw a ball against air but there are
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  Speaker 4: so many things you don't want to take into account.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, Jerry Judy never had one hundred catch season.
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  Speaker 4: Jerry Judy was never one of the most you know,
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  Speaker 4: yards per you know yards after catch leaders in the league.
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  Speaker 4: Wattle's a different player than that, Yeah, And I think
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  Speaker 4: it's that, you know, that's a different comparison to me.
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  Speaker 4: Wattle's a proven commodity whose output went down because their
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  Speaker 4: offense was lots stinkier, you know, as it went on.
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  Speaker 4: What he does and I've said this to folks, The
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  Speaker 4: Broncos have receivers and tight ends who win off the snap.
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  Speaker 4: They win the route, but the window doesn't stay open
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  Speaker 4: very long because of explosiveness. Pat Bryant wins a lot,
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  Speaker 4: but he runs a four to six forties. So after
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  Speaker 4: the win, the defender closes the gap if the ball
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  Speaker 4: doesn't appear quickly. Wattle keeps the window open. He wins
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  Speaker 4: the route, and he keeps winning because he can't reel
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  Speaker 4: him in. That's the difference between him and other impactful receivers.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, receivers keep the win open.
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  Speaker 4: The wind stays a win through the route, and that's
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  Speaker 4: the difference between Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. They keep
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  Speaker 4: the win going and that's why they're you know, put
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  Speaker 4: up the numbers they do.
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  Speaker 6: I I will not be there today for the Joe
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  Speaker 6: Saka news conference. A new and I'm gonna get an aircut.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 6: And I've been given all kinds of grief from my
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  Speaker 6: partner here who Latida. He's going, Uh, what am I
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  Speaker 6: missing today? What until we get to training camp, Jeff,
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  Speaker 6: what am I really missing?
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  Speaker 5: I'll answer that question for you. What I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 5: out there and I'm going to watch Jeff Legwald glare
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  Speaker 5: at bo Nicks's ankles. How closely will you be glaring
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  Speaker 5: at his ankles?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it would be wrong of me not
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  Speaker 3: to say that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't glare at everything during practice, So that's a
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  Speaker 4: that's a safe bet. I'm in glare mode during practice.
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  Speaker 6: You have you have those sunglasses that have that weird
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  Speaker 6: hitch thing on them on the sides, still have those?
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  Speaker 3: Of course I never get anything.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, so you'll be glaring through your glasses
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  Speaker 6: so nobody can really see what you're glaring at, but
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  Speaker 6: you are glaring.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, It's a constant Claire during God all right, I'm
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  Speaker 4: in my mode.
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  Speaker 3: I guess my mode.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to before I let you go, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Leggy, apologize for Vic talking incredibly loudly to
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  Speaker 1: Steve Nelson while you were giving us an answer.
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  Speaker 2: It was the loudest talkback I've ever heard in my life.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know why I did that? I have no
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  Speaker 2: idea why.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know why.
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  Speaker 5: Hey Nelly, Nelly, get on the mic and tell everybody
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  Speaker 5: why I did that.
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  Speaker 3: Nelly.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Mosuer and I were talking about the livery that
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  Speaker 7: he had coming up, and so Vic got in my
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  Speaker 7: ears and was going, Hey, Nelly, I just want to
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  Speaker 7: have full on conversations with you, the way that Mosuer
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  Speaker 7: has full on conversations with you during segment, every.
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  Speaker 5: Segment, every segment we do, Moser hits the talk back
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  Speaker 5: and starts having these conversations with Nelly.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so tired of it that I decided to
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  Speaker 2: give me what you disrespected, Leggy, and I don't collateral damage.
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  Speaker 3: Tough, tough.
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  Speaker 2: I just had to give moture the peace.
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  Speaker 3: Ok.
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  Speaker 2: Gotch Uh? Jeff, You're the best. Always appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: My life is not always recess.
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  Speaker 4: I understand that I'm ready I'm ready when I come
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  Speaker 4: on the morning show for the for the personality clashes.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. You're the one who does it every single segment.
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  Speaker 4: You're doing the radio thing, Jeff, you don't need to
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  Speaker 4: hear all this, this lover's quarrel that we have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah,