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- 0:00Optics. It's a hot face.
- 1:08What is up everybody? Welcome back to the episode The
- 1:10wasd and Beyond. Hotfix as always, I'm your host.
- 1:14Nick with me is Evan, nothing's changed.
- 1:18It's been a minute. We don't hotfix that.
- 1:19I mean I wouldn't see nothing's changed see if you can spot it.
- 1:24Evan Q 2 Q, tilt your head to the side which side left to
- 1:27right. Don't matter.
- 1:31No man. Like look other ways.
- 1:34You said tilt, this is tilting, this is will turn.
- 1:36Okay? Why?
- 1:36Matt look I meant look. You're not let us know in the
- 1:42comments. What you spot.
- 1:43I don't think. I don't think I look pretty
- 1:45normal. You look like Evan, that's for
- 1:48sure. You're digging it.
- 1:52You're really full of yourself today, really digging that.
- 1:55I feel so cool. It looks like you got like a
- 1:57mandrake on the top of your head.
- 2:00I did it exactly like this, is you your start your so thrilled?
- 2:05I can tell. I'm so happy just to get another
- 2:09big Swig of that beer, buddy. I'm having a beer not drinking
- 2:13while you were just. You are I think the saying?
- 2:15No, I'm not. I literally don't have one.
- 2:20You did earpiece shit anyways, so the past couple weeks there
- 2:26hasn't been that much news for us to be even doing a hotfix, so
- 2:29we've been kind of taking a slow with it.
- 2:32This week, the big episode with David Craddock author of long
- 2:37live Mortal Kombat and the director of FPS documentary is
- 2:41coming out on Friday video and audio, so get stoked for that.
- 2:46It's been a long time in the making for this interview to
- 2:50come. We're incredibly proud of this.
- 2:52We're incredibly excited for you guys to hear it.
- 2:54David was nothing less than amazing to talk to these awesome
- 2:59guy support. All the things that he's working
- 3:01on and doing this, specially long live Mortal Kombat and FPS
- 3:05documentary, which majority of the interview was, Brody, and
- 3:08myself talking to him about that movie.
- 3:11So, that comes out this Friday, until then, you got this hotfix,
- 3:14whichever to myself or to be talking about Halo, episode 4
- 3:17and 5. Yes, So let's go into what
- 3:22happened in episode 4 and then we will tell you guys how we
- 3:26felt about it and then we'll go into 5 because 5 is where things
- 3:31start to really picked up significantly ramp up.
- 3:36Its what the show has been kneading and it's what the show
- 3:38has been drastically missing, I would say.
- 3:42So, I would say, let's let's start this up for the oven.
- 3:46What happens in episode 4. So in episode 4, KY 1 to
- 3:50Originally had seen an episode 3, Adan Master Chief taking out
- 3:54his emotional suppressor pellet out of the small of his back.
- 3:57So she does that and clearly you can kind of tell she handles it
- 4:03a bit differently. Which I think is another
- 4:06Testament as to why Chief is Chief, because he kind of take
- 4:11out, but he can still do his job pretty well.
- 4:13She can do her job, well, too, but she's very, she's different
- 4:18the clearly because of it. She also helps Miranda Keys
- 4:23analyze, the magical artifact, and kind.
- 4:26They discover together that they've been trying to translate
- 4:29the elites language. The saying Hayley Language by
- 4:32there by themselves even though they haven't been using the spa,
- 4:35Those who have arguably the most time, what are you laughing at?
- 4:39What I do because exactly what you were just saying, like the
- 4:43sparkle like, oh yeah. We know.
- 4:45Yes language leaves Diesel. And we've not spelled, we've
- 4:48spent more time with her than anybody else has and you know,
- 4:52realistically because they obviously probably listen to
- 4:56them when they're trying to Ambush all that kind of stuff,
- 4:58so and all that stuff. So obviously documented through
- 5:01their helmets and whatnot, video and audio.
- 5:03So, They do that, they look at the footage from the mission on
- 5:08magical as well as the the UNSC Corvette.
- 5:11That's I think that happens in episode 3, that the Mackay takes
- 5:17over there. But yeah, I don't know how you
- 5:19say her name. They discovered that the
- 5:22artifact, the chief, and the other Spartans, found relates to
- 5:25a sacred ring that the Covenant call Halo.
- 5:27So who big crazy stuff there Halo and Halo.
- 5:31I don't think so. No man, it's nothing.
- 5:33Got nothing to do so different franchise.
- 5:35Another girl's Sauron and Quan go and find her Kwan's father's
- 5:40former like allies. But due to like what happened
- 5:43since episode one, they both fear the Covenant and so because
- 5:48of that they trust Venture grass who you see in the first episode
- 5:54because he's backed by the UNSC now like they're together.
- 5:58Um, so they don't help her. Sauron ship is discovered and
- 6:02confiscated and basically just torn apart for its Just a
- 6:06salvaged. Quan finds her aunt who asked
- 6:09for help but an agent of graphs, like, crew, like Special Forces
- 6:15type person kills her aunt, almost kills Quan.
- 6:21I think and yell Soren saves her Soren kills, a whole bunch of
- 6:27her men, but does not kill her, they escaped and had for a
- 6:31Spaceport that's 230 miles in the opposite direction or
- 6:34something like that. And then it kind of cuts are it
- 6:37cuts to a redness to with Chief Z Cortana and that weird guy
- 6:42that's like Halls. He's Lackey, he gets even he
- 6:45just gets in the way in episode 5 and I'm like, yeah, he's
- 6:49weird. You just someone kill him.
- 6:52Yeah, he's a danger to himself and others just fucking kill
- 6:54this guy, right? So they go to his old home,
- 6:57John's old home, they find drawings that he had as a kid of
- 7:01different Forerunner artifacts Cortana uses like almost some
- 7:05sort of holographic thing that she can do where she prayed to
- 7:09his home as he knew it as a kid kind of though because he does
- 7:12point out irregularities or or from placement for things like
- 7:17he says that there was a table somewhere else so he clearly
- 7:19remembers. Once he sees these things, he
- 7:22remember things were he wasn't like that, completely wiped his
- 7:26memories and I think that's what's scaring Halsey, which it
- 7:30clearly comes to a head at the end of the episode, John
- 7:34obviously. I was exactly where the location
- 7:36of the second artifact is the even when he was a kid.
- 7:39But then he also notices another memory from his childhood of
- 7:42Halsey visiting him. While his parents were still a
- 7:45lot, which up to this point, he had figured that she found him
- 7:48when they had died, but she found them or she found him.
- 7:53While her parents are, his parents were still, you know,
- 7:55kicking it, playing a game with him of like, tossing, a coin and
- 7:59testing this luck. If it'll be heads or tails, and
- 8:02he's right naturally, which is a nice homage to The Fall Of Reach
- 8:06book because that book John is flipping a coin and I forget it
- 8:11might be. Halsey I'm not sure I've read
- 8:13the book since I was like in sixth grade.
- 8:15But yeah, he's like flipping a coin and he's guessing constant
- 8:18and he's getting his favorite show.
- 8:19Yeah. Yeah.
- 8:20Like something special about John and then not.
- 8:24Yeah. And then it ends with John
- 8:25taking Halsey and obviously her Lackey and Cortana to the
- 8:29location of the same Forerunner artifact, which is kind of like
- 8:31a big pillar in the ground. So yeah, that's All of episode
- 8:365, obviously little bits and pieces here and there I think in
- 8:38episode 4 KY 1 to 5 after you she removes her pellet puts gun
- 8:43grease in your hair to kind of paint.
- 8:44It red looks terrible by the way, and everybody points that
- 8:48out and she knows that too. She knows that that I think she
- 8:51mentions that in five where she goes, you think that I thought
- 8:53that looked good. So kind of just doing it.
- 8:57She's clearly very clearly not used to being able to have them
- 9:01bones and stuff like that where it is when John took his out
- 9:04very much. Touch this cautious optimism.
- 9:08Like really like just cautious understanding like when he goes
- 9:11and he sees the dog and he listens to the music and you
- 9:14know you sees the couple on the train like all this stuff be
- 9:17very much just observes does not want to get involved whereas Kai
- 9:21does not have that kind of self-control.
- 9:23She's very much about like going to be a part of the group where
- 9:26I want to be like I want to do this.
- 9:27I want to do that. Let me help.
- 9:27Let me do this. And it's like, when she's told
- 9:29orders, if she thinks that she has a better idea thing, she's
- 9:32very much restraining against that she does not.
- 9:35Want to listen which we see more of in five.
- 9:38So yeah I liked it I liked I liked that it was just more
- 9:43world-building and just kind of getting further but I definitely
- 9:45I didn't feel it didn't feel slow but I felt like it was
- 9:47moving somewhere. Good that's kind of how I was.
- 9:52Yeah so I'm right there with you.
- 9:54I didn't hate it, right? A lot of the show so far, I have
- 9:59disliked and I've been very vocal about my dislike for this.
- 10:02Beats the shit dude. Well my problem is In the
- 10:05morning on Friday. Like, do you see it stupid
- 10:07bullshit? No, I didn't like, but I
- 10:10promised us. It's got eight episodes 99 and
- 10:14the majority of the episodes thus far.
- 10:18Has been World building which is cool but it is.
- 10:21It leaves very, very slow Halo. Right?
- 10:24This episode does a lot of cool things especially with Kai.
- 10:28I do like that she removed her pellet for those cool.
- 10:31Yeah, I like her really starting to identify herself.
- 10:36The gun Greece was a cool little symbol of her like I am now
- 10:39myself, I am. Who liked that a lot?
- 10:41I'm Kai, right? Yes.
- 10:43Kind of understanding who she is.
- 10:44Yeah. I like that a lot.
- 10:46I don't think we needed more. Or nudity in like this guy's
- 10:51just well it's just weird, right?
- 10:54Like I mean it's a Paramount show, I mean they can do that,
- 10:57right? They're not held in.
- 10:58Well, it like the last three episodes there's been just just
- 11:02butts a lot of. But yeah.
- 11:03I mean like Ventures. But like the dude, the scrawny
- 11:06little weird guy who's like, almost like.
- 11:11Oh my God. Baron harkonnen.
- 11:13Like, Dune, but it's like a skinny hard Conan.
- 11:15Just look at his little fucking water.
- 11:17He's in visual has a little skinny guy, but I'm like, why?
- 11:23Dude? Like Lisa, yeah, that's that's
- 11:26Burn Gorman. He's a an actor who has been in
- 11:30Dark Knight Rises wasn't game of through a lot of things, right?
- 11:33He's in the man in the High Castle.
- 11:34Yeah he's a very good villain. Also very I don't know the right
- 11:40way to say this is noticeable. You don't forget that face like
- 11:44oh cause I'm a bad guy. I've only seen him in Dark
- 11:46Knight Rises really. I mean I watch Game of Thrones
- 11:48but I knew who I like I recognize that he's in there now
- 11:51but could show me any TV show with that guy and I'd be like
- 11:54yeah I know that is what I've seen like he's just got a very
- 11:57recognizable face. Also his he's a nephew of a man
- 12:00named Bartley Gorman. Who's considered King of the
- 12:02gypsies has nothing to do with the episode but I thought that
- 12:04was interesting. Great gypsies in this episode.
- 12:08It was fine. Right?
- 12:09Like cool. You're cool.
- 12:12Yeah, there they are. What they are.
- 12:14Okay. I would say the episode is fine.
- 12:16It did. What it needed to do.
- 12:17I think, right? Yeah.
- 12:19No. Yeah.
- 12:20Like the Gypsy Community is going to come after us.
- 12:21They came after Tom Segura. Good Times sideways.
- 12:24Yeah. If there come after him, they'll
- 12:26come after us. Yes, their Petty like that
- 12:28though, dude. Yeah, no, I mean, I agree,
- 12:31though, like I I am personally a big fan of world-building.
- 12:34I'm a big fan of shows that I fucking Watch The Wire dude, I'm
- 12:38cool with it. She being a slow as it's got to
- 12:40be to get to a point, right? I'm not even seriously sitting
- 12:42in my opinion. Huh Sopranos a slow in my
- 12:46opinion. Oh it's completely sold it.
- 12:47Well, I would say, I would disagree on that and one aspect
- 12:51which is that there are just some of The Sopranos that don't
- 12:54need to be there. Like Pine Barrens know that
- 12:59setups that has nothing to do with anything but I prefer it
- 13:02remains such a good. We're going to do an episode
- 13:05just on the Pine Barrens. Yeah, but like there are certain
- 13:08episodes of the show that don't really have to exist or certain,
- 13:12maybe not even certain parts, but just see these.
- 13:15Whereas I feel something like the wire definitely needs, every
- 13:18little bit that it gives and for this I would say that it's it's
- 13:22slow in the way that like it wants to really tell you a story
- 13:26and I think that that has a problem or I think you'll have a
- 13:29problem with it rather because they know what Halo is and they
- 13:32expect more action. They expect more shit going on.
- 13:35I agree. And it's like, I understand that
- 13:38but I'm also of the opinion that if I were to sit here and watch
- 13:41if we had been like right now we're on a pisode five about to
- 13:44be on six this week. If it had just been like the
- 13:46past five episodes just been Chief going to a different
- 13:49planet and just being told here's your mission and kicking
- 13:51ass and then figuring stuff out at the end of the episode that
- 13:54would get boring to would also be of that.
- 13:56If anywhere, I'd say it's worse, I'd be like, dude, I mean, like
- 13:58it's just the same shit. Like, if I wanted to do this, I
- 14:00just go by infinite, right? Like I would just write, go do
- 14:03it myself. But like I like, It's World
- 14:07building but it's not it's It All Leads somewhere, right?
- 14:11And I think they're doing a very good job of that because it's
- 14:12like they they don't know what the Rings are.
- 14:15Whereas it's like the beginning of the first Halo and you land
- 14:18on one. So like for this, it's like both
- 14:22of them. The Covenant know what it means
- 14:23in terms of a religious aspect of what it can do, but they've
- 14:27not found it yet. Whereas humans at judging by
- 14:30this at that at that episode. In this current, this new one,
- 14:33they're just starting to understand that something like
- 14:35this exists and they Still don't know what it is, even they don't
- 14:38know that it's a weapon. So like I'm hoping personally I
- 14:42hope that they find like the ring within like hopefully this
- 14:49is owed, but that's going to be harder to do.
- 14:51We'll talk about that. Why, because we'll talk why
- 14:53like, for that, it because of five, but like I'm hoping they
- 14:55find it between the end of 6. And the, like, towards the end
- 14:59of seven. That way, we kind of have 89,
- 15:01which kind of wraps it up nicely, I would really hate
- 15:06Although I think it's already been given a another series
- 15:10they've already been given a second season but I would really
- 15:15hate if they did that. Where the like number nine is
- 15:17them finding the ring and then it ends.
- 15:19And then like they got cancel the show.
- 15:21I'd be really bummed out because it's like, you guys are so much
- 15:23more you can do so. So that's kind of it.
- 15:26But I liked for, I thought it was good.
- 15:29I liked the world-building still.
- 15:31Yeah, definitely not a lot of action.
- 15:32I mean, there was a little bit between source and Kwan.
- 15:37But like, don't really care about that other than Sauron,
- 15:40really. I still don't have a lot of
- 15:42feelings for quad and nothing to do with who plays her.
- 15:45It's just I really don't see what her point is.
- 15:48She still feels like a berry misplace character and I'm sure
- 15:52at the end of the season it's going to be like, by the way,
- 15:55Quan is super special and I'm gonna go, I don't care because I
- 15:59did haven't cared since we met her.
- 16:01Well, we haven't seen that she's special other than I mean as far
- 16:04as like including five I cannot say exactly what it is yet.
- 16:08But like, by the way, spoiler, we're spoiling the episodes.
- 16:12I mean, I figured that just put that in the title of the
- 16:15episode. Yeah.
- 16:16But like, If she is special, they have not given us any
- 16:21allusion to that whatsoever like I should care at that at this
- 16:25point. We're still just, we're kind of
- 16:26just following her because we are like, not really like
- 16:30nothing she's done effects Chief directly or the UNSC directly
- 16:35not yet anyway and personally everything that she's been doing
- 16:38up to this point has been pretty much like she doesn't have an
- 16:41army and she's very misguided. I'd say like she's got this fire
- 16:46in her of like just give me 50 people like Do it.
- 16:48It's like you do fucking can't like you can in.
- 16:52Yeah you can't and you can't right there comes a point where
- 16:54you just you're going to lose. So I'm curious to see how that
- 16:58goes and what really happens with that but I really it's
- 17:02feels like whatever they're going to do to kind of bring
- 17:04that closer to Chief and like that storyline really feels like
- 17:07it's going to be shoehorned in. I really don't see as of right
- 17:10now. A natural way where it's going
- 17:11to one side. I just don't but yeah that's
- 17:14episode 4. I liked it.
- 17:16Nick didn't ya. Yeah, it's fine.
- 17:19That is own little personal things with it.
- 17:20Let's get on to 5 because 5 we both really liked.
- 17:23Yes, I thought 5 has been the best episode of the series thus
- 17:27far obviously with what happens in five the lead up to it.
- 17:33So what happens in episode five of them?
- 17:35So this is rating from Wikipedia, this is exactly like,
- 17:38just what is described as it's very, I'm not basic but tells
- 17:42the premise quite well. So on Madrigal Soren handcuffed
- 17:47squandered, their bike, while he goes to find a way of the
- 17:50planet. But Quan freeze herself and
- 17:55knocks, or an unconscious and then takes his gun and his car,
- 17:58which is hilarious. Also like, really Quan knocking
- 18:01out Sauron. All right.
- 18:03Yeah, that wasn't, that was so energized to suspend your
- 18:06belief. Speaking of that really love
- 18:09this car, he's got that goes down his whole arm.
- 18:11That's like completely open really weird and like was
- 18:14looking but But looks pretty bad.
- 18:16I like this guy's seen some practical effect was sweet.
- 18:18I like that a lot. Yeah, I don't I don't he hasn't
- 18:20describe what? That something tells me that
- 18:22feels like it's an energy sword or something.
- 18:24Like yeah, I wouldn't know what it couldn't.
- 18:26I can't imagine to be a knife. It looks way too big right also?
- 18:32It's actually like still open. So like if energy Shields are
- 18:36like lightsabers, you know, cauterizes that cauterize.
- 18:39Yeah I was gonna say, if that's what it is, that would totally
- 18:41make sense, but I feel like that.
- 18:42So it have to be the blade though like Edge because I
- 18:45cannot Imagine it would probably just go through it, but anyway,
- 18:48yeah, she's she tracks him down, you know, knocks him out takes
- 18:53his gun in his, in his vehicle. Then it cuts to a Readiness to
- 18:57the UNSC has a full platoon or Battalion there.
- 18:59Now, they're trying to secure that artifact and take it back
- 19:02to reach, but they can't break it out while they're testing.
- 19:06It. It doesn't nothing specifically
- 19:09leads into this. But the weird creepy guy that's
- 19:11like, all these Lackey is like right next to it.
- 19:13And all of a sudden, it really is really loud.
- 19:15Oh boom that basically defens everybody except for Chief and I
- 19:19think the other Spartans that guy could have been jerking off
- 19:22on the fucking artifact, he would have been.
- 19:24I feel like he would have been to but because of that boom, it
- 19:28alerts Mackay. And the Covenant it was
- 19:30searching for it on magical. So now they know where it's at,
- 19:34John continues to question. What has passed has been what
- 19:37his life really is? And because of how much you want
- 19:40to know, he goes and touches the artifact and has memories of
- 19:43Halsey and only troops kidnapping him, or I think about
- 19:45the flash clone of himself also like, very nearly dies, because
- 19:51of just touching it. And because of how mad he is, he
- 19:54tries to attack Halsey, but which I thought was really
- 19:57stupid the way he attacked her. I'm not gonna lie.
- 20:00Like I jump punching thing was, like, really, but since
- 20:05cortana's inside him, basically, she's able to just shut down his
- 20:09eye with a narrow bridge, which is cool.
- 20:12But at the same time, like, don't really like that.
- 20:16John wakes up contemplates. You know what he now?
- 20:19Knows and as he's doing that, a Corvette from the Covenant
- 20:23arrives and launches an attack on the mission using both
- 20:27banshees as well as Elites grunts jackals everything that
- 20:31we've kind of been waiting for separates.
- 20:34Only one Bridge shows up in that motherfucker is huge.
- 20:38If that's the told they're gonna say, who doesnít.
- 20:41I'm cool with it. Big boy dude, he's massive.
- 20:46Um mr. Fucking junkie to they are in
- 20:49the jackals. The jackals look pretty good.
- 20:52Yeah but like they're doing good for the sense of scale because
- 20:55Chief is around 7 feet tall and Elites are bigger than him by
- 21:00I'd say at least a couple feet so they're around nine or ten
- 21:03feet not to say if that's like the brute then, is it.
- 21:07At least two like twice the size of Chief, in terms of height,
- 21:11he's a, he's big. Yeah, he was massive, um, which
- 21:16will be interesting because in the games, I mean, they're
- 21:19basically everything. Looks the same height to us in
- 21:20the game. Nobody really looks taller
- 21:22unless they're actually supposed to be are like they are.
- 21:26It's supposed to show that boss battle.
- 21:27Sense of scale. Yeah.
- 21:29So this will be interesting because in the game's you often
- 21:32fight brutes and Elites and ground, some jackals, all pretty
- 21:35much together all at the same time.
- 21:36So this looks like Different in that.
- 21:40Because of the sense of scale, Chief will very rarely see
- 21:43Bruce. I hope like I hope it.
- 21:46He's not, although it'll be cool for, you know, action sequence.
- 21:49If he's taking down a leads grounds jackals and brutes, you
- 21:52know, just to show his badassery and his sense of scale and what
- 21:55he can really do. But anyways, going back to the
- 21:58episode despite the efforts of both the UNSC and the silver
- 22:02team. A lot of UNSC Marines die Kai
- 22:05almost gets killed the Covenant. Take the artifact leave and as
- 22:09it The planet a drop pod drops down and he finds Mackey.
- 22:13Which, at this point, I would, honestly say if they just
- 22:16dropped a human off, I would probably just shoot her.
- 22:20I would have blown her head off. Like I don't think there's any
- 22:22point where I yeah, I can't imagine when it is this like
- 22:26that's a really weird thing to like leave.
- 22:30It is it makes sense it made no son.
- 22:33So I was like okay so now they're going to come and it's
- 22:36going to go for like an infiltration type thing but like
- 22:38that's so suspicious. You know it looks.
- 22:41Yeah. Like that was that was the part
- 22:43of the episode. I went.
- 22:45Okay. Okay, it cut off on the fucking
- 22:47Quan thing pretty fast. Yes I that was like.
- 22:51All right cool, she has a gun up to him.
- 22:53That's over with. All right.
- 22:53Cool. Let's go back to the fight.
- 22:56The fight itself is really good. Yeah.
- 22:58Yes, really interesting to watch Kai lose her nerve the way she
- 23:02does. I got like real PTSD.
- 23:05Yeah. Watching people die.
- 23:07Just like shocked her. And then she was just getting
- 23:08her ass beat. You know, watching cheap, just
- 23:12go fuck it and be Chief and Savor was awesome.
- 23:16That Jackal that Jackal just crawling with like that.
- 23:21This Jackal is literally cut in half.
- 23:23Its intestines are hanging. Yeah.
- 23:25Oh, and it's just crawling across your screen and I was
- 23:28like, that is cool like work. This is, I think Chief had a
- 23:31couple Clips when he was killed on the ground.
- 23:33So I thought that was pretty funny.
- 23:34Thanks for the ride or whatever. Like yeah, thanks for the ride.
- 23:37Yeah, I said that I liked when he jumped onto the banshee and
- 23:40shot through the top of Magnum and then took control and then
- 23:44not only that. But then slammed into the
- 23:45Phantom with it, that was really cool.
- 23:48The whole hijacking of the Banshee think it was really cool
- 23:51to watch because like when you watch it it made me feel like do
- 23:55like, how the game makes you feel doing it?
- 23:58Yeah like kind of like the animation of Chief like trying
- 24:00to rip the fucking top Port open and its third first through the
- 24:03top. The right?
- 24:04Like yeah. It's not a first like it would
- 24:06have kind of ruined it. If it went to a first person
- 24:08view of him trying to do it, it's like because that's never
- 24:11you've Against it in the game. So right, it was pretty cool.
- 24:14You had to watch him, do everything.
- 24:15I did particularly like that. He slammed it right into the
- 24:18Phantom and it blew up and kind of turn those sweet.
- 24:20Just like, that really shows that this is Chief and this is
- 24:23why he is Chief like this because he would do shit like
- 24:25this. Like the other guys would
- 24:28probably just in no disrespect to them but they probably use it
- 24:31just to try and turn the fight by using its weapon for as Chief
- 24:34is like fuck that. I'm just going to slam it into
- 24:37the Phantom and just take out the whole thing and he's the
- 24:40only one who's Nick. I think would have the idea to
- 24:43do that. And then also the know-how of
- 24:45how to live through that because realistically, you see him ride
- 24:48that shit right into it. See, I wouldn't have expected
- 24:51them to live. I mean, obviously, it's cheap.
- 24:52I know he's going to live, but like, you wouldn't particularly
- 24:56think that, I guess if it was anybody else, the coming or not
- 25:01thing? I didn't like, but thing that
- 25:03really shows again, how kind of why he needs that emotional
- 25:06suppressor is because of how he gets when he sees Kaka almost
- 25:11dying. Buying wheat.
- 25:12It was cool as hell. And I think that also shows, why
- 25:15needs that? Because he took way too much
- 25:18time, Hurting mashing. Yeah, like like Ali just just
- 25:23causing pain to it which is like I'm not trying to say like I
- 25:26support the Covenant, I would rather just kill them humanely.
- 25:28No I mean, like fuckin do what you got to do but like if he had
- 25:31that suppressor on I think he would have or in him he would
- 25:35have just shot. Killed it and moved yet because
- 25:37he knows the mission but I will not lie.
- 25:42Pretty freaking badass dude. Like it's mandible was like
- 25:46hanging off. Yeah.
- 25:47Curb Stomps it at the end, just herb.
- 25:49Thump, we talked about that. That's pretty cool that final
- 25:53Crush like he he knows the fight is our with this thing is done.
- 25:57He just just a split second just curb Stomps and you see it.
- 26:02Yeah. You get to watch it whole thing
- 26:04looking like and the only reason, the only reason they
- 26:07were able to get away with it is because it's CGI in Aliens.
- 26:10Yeah. Why they were able?
- 26:11Oh yeah. They couldn't have been able to
- 26:12it any other way. No.
- 26:14No. It was cool.
- 26:15That was real. I really dug that that was a
- 26:17really nice like Cool. This is the tone now.
- 26:21Yeah. That's the tone now.
- 26:23Yeah, that's the precedent. You've set just like, okay,
- 26:26you're watching like a Liverpool match?
- 26:28Yeah, ref ain't Callin. Shoves.
- 26:31Yes. The tone you're setting.
- 26:33Yeah. And then you start to change it
- 26:35up. You're going to be filled even
- 26:36differently. Yeah, I'm gonna be like what the
- 26:38fuck's happening here, right? This is really starting to ramp
- 26:41up. I can really see a lot more
- 26:42action on its way, which is what I'm hoping for with some big
- 26:47climactic ending soon. It's really looking good.
- 26:51I think I'm unsure because I'm one part of me is trying to
- 26:56speak for myself, right? Another part of me is trying to
- 27:00go. You have been a fan of the
- 27:02series since you were a kid speak up with the rest of the
- 27:05fucking people in the background going.
- 27:06I'm never going to like it which it's conflicting to me, right?
- 27:09Because I don't want to be like that and I find myself getting
- 27:12trapped in the sphere of, I'm disliking, the show, simply
- 27:17because it's not what I wanted to.
- 27:19And I'm trying to pull, but at least I'm honest, right?
- 27:21Like a lot of people aren't being honest about that.
- 27:23No, I think they're trying to pull myself out of that and go.
- 27:26No, give this a shot. I can see that though.
- 27:30The people involved may not know the source material because
- 27:34they've admitted. Yeah, it seems like there is
- 27:38some love in here. Well, I think there is, I got a
- 27:43little bit, I got a little bit. I can talk about that again.
- 27:46Yes, from Wikipedia, so On this is a couple like four years ago,
- 27:51June 28th, 2018 showtimes, given a 10 episode series order, Kyle
- 27:55kill until sometime. Yeah, show time it was rather
- 27:58good man. Showtime.
- 27:59Oh what the fuck? I'll kill him was set to be show
- 28:01writer, are showrunner writer and executive producer.
- 28:04While Rupert, Wyatt was attached, as a director, and
- 28:06executive producer on August 12th.
- 28:08It was announced that Master Chief would be the main lead of
- 28:10the series in the series would tell a new story from the video
- 28:12games while respecting their cannon.
- 28:13At the same time on December, 3rd?
- 28:16Y it stepped down as director an EP due to scheduling conflicts
- 28:19Conflicts, he was replaced by Auto Bathurst in February 19.
- 28:23When it was reported, that bathrooms would be directing the
- 28:25pilot along with several other episodes.
- 28:28And then it was revealed that the episode count had decreased
- 28:30from 10 and 9 in 2019, Steven Kane March of 2019.
- 28:34Specifically Steven Kane was added as Co showrunner alongside
- 28:37Killin and now February 24th. 2021 series was moved from show
- 28:41time to Paramount plus Showtime president Gary Levine said that
- 28:45the show was an outlier for the company, man.
- 28:47And as a big broad tent pole show Which is true because
- 28:50Showtime does things like billions and stuff like that,
- 28:52which is very much not big broad show.
- 28:56Yeah, it was a better fit on Paramount service on June 25th.
- 29:002021, it was worth at both Canaan killer will be exiting
- 29:03the showrunners following the completion of Susan.
- 29:05One killing had left prior to the start of production due to
- 29:08him. Feeling like he wasn't able to
- 29:09fulfill the duties of showrunner with Kane, taking the reins as
- 29:12lead, showrunner until post-production work had been
- 29:14completed. However, should the should get
- 29:16picked up for a second season. Kane would not return. 20, 22
- 29:20January 2020. To it was revealed by executive
- 29:22producer, Justin Falvey that the show has potential to last
- 29:25multiple seasons and that David winner was being Ida showrunner
- 29:29for a potential season 2 with Kane, staying on board as a
- 29:32consultant on February 15th ahead of its Premiere Paramount
- 29:35plus renewed, the series for a second season with wine or set
- 29:38of showrunner, ins and executive producer.
- 29:41I'll look him up real quick. Okay?
- 29:44So there's a lot that could happen positively from a sec.
- 29:48I think. Think this is going to be a
- 29:51story of growing pains, I think. Yep, I can see that.
- 29:56So this is actually not anything.
- 30:00I'm giving I'm getting two different people here.
- 30:03How there's a lot of that's liners that that's what I'm
- 30:05seeing here. I think this is going to be a
- 30:07growing pains type thing where we pop into season two and it's
- 30:10going to be this completely I can see a lot of overall
- 30:15happening not to detour or take away from the prior season, but
- 30:20I'm talking look scale CGI practical effects.
- 30:25I'm talking like a big boost in production here.
- 30:28I'm thinking. Yeah, I mean I think that it's
- 30:30just, it's one of those things where it's yeah, it's going to
- 30:32be it's tough because you got to get this right for the fans.
- 30:36Sure yet. But I think that in terms of
- 30:38fan, you just have to get the lower right.
- 30:42I really couldn't care less about.
- 30:44Like, what story you tell? As long as it fits into The
- 30:47Narrative of like the series, like what if you're low is?
- 30:51Yeah, if you will, if you, I mean, if you take it as like,
- 30:54you know, say you develop different series and it set way
- 30:58into the future, or not way into the future.
- 30:59But like enough for chief of still Chief, and that's like
- 31:02what we know and it's like they know about the halo rings, but
- 31:04they don't really care about them.
- 31:06It's like, that's not like the point, like so that's missing
- 31:09the mark, right? But, it's really, yeah, but You
- 31:12make it like, this is in lore, like where everything is, as it
- 31:15should be. Like the same people were bad.
- 31:17People are bad. People like if, for instance,
- 31:19you turn the Arbiter into something that, you know, Chief
- 31:21has to kill. That's obviously not what
- 31:23happens. So, that would be kind of the
- 31:26point where it's like for fans. That's where I'd say drop off
- 31:29but, you know, for fans as well. It's like, well, if the show is
- 31:31more talky talky than shooty, shooty, that's not really.
- 31:34I'd say doing a disservice to fans, I think that's just a TV
- 31:38show is different than a game. I think they're trying to bring
- 31:40people into Who may not know what Halo and that's the harder
- 31:43challenge is that we notice they're trying to do and most
- 31:46people don't know this shit like my dad knows nothing about the
- 31:49story. Other than that, Chief is a big
- 31:50cool badass with an AI. Who is naked?
- 31:55He's never played. Yeah.
- 31:56I mean am I wrong like no. Come on people.
- 32:00No. So like you got to get people
- 32:03like Dad to it and if you were to just again have it be mostly
- 32:08action. Most people like my dad probably
- 32:10wouldn't care because it'd be like, well, let's play the game
- 32:12or I'll just I'll you know I'll watch somebody else play it on
- 32:15Twitter or YouTube or whatever. Right.
- 32:18So that like that's part of they gotta get people into it.
- 32:21You got to get people that are invested in the story.
- 32:23And I think the way to do that is to A show that Chief was
- 32:26taken from his parents and they know he's special.
- 32:30But that's the question because he's special and because he
- 32:33could be Humanity's greatest weapon, does that mean that you
- 32:35have the right to take that child and turn him into that
- 32:40weapon? And then not only that but then
- 32:41violate has Again by injecting him with a super intelligent AI
- 32:47that has never been used before. Like zactly.
- 32:50Those are the questions I think that they're trying to bring in
- 32:52which honestly are not part of Halo.
- 32:54Like you typically don't ask those things when you're playing
- 32:56the game, but I think they're good questions to have in your
- 33:00head while you're watching it and go like okay.
- 33:03No, it's not right for things to happen but Chief is Chief and
- 33:08understands that nothing can be done about these things anymore.
- 33:11But he understands that he's got this place in the world.
- 33:14Now, he has to do what he's been trying to do.
- 33:19What he was always what he was born to do.
- 33:21That's the thing. He was always born to do this,
- 33:24but it's the method in which he ends up doing it.
- 33:27Is the question. Is that quiet?
- 33:28Is that okay? Is that morally?
- 33:30Ethical? No, it's not realistically, but
- 33:35It Manatee and he understands that it helps humanity.
- 33:37And then he becomes, I'd say not okay with it but he accepts it
- 33:41and goes nothing about it now but I can do what I can do.
- 33:47Like I can I can stop the Covenant so like that's kind of
- 33:50it but yeah I'm really liking it.
- 33:52I loved episode 5. I like for I'd like to all I'd
- 33:54like the whole series so far. I think that some of its a bit
- 33:57slower'. I think that some of it doesn't
- 33:58make a lot of sense, especially with the quantum, Sauron story a
- 34:01lot of but don't know why. I don't like either.
- 34:03Yeah, I don't know what's With that lot of button the show.
- 34:06I don't know why we got. We got Chief, but we got Chi,
- 34:08but we got Mackey but it's a bit odd.
- 34:11I'm back on board. Yeah, there's a lot, there's a
- 34:13lot of but Yeah, I like it. I think it's all good.
- 34:19Like I think they've done a great job.
- 34:20There are certainly some questionable things.
- 34:22Like again, like the quantum thing, but then also, like,
- 34:25dropping Mackey off at the end. After you just completely wiped
- 34:27out. A whole bunch of UNSC doesn't
- 34:29really make a lot of sense, because a lot of people aren't
- 34:32Edge. So she's going to be taken
- 34:33prisoner, they're not going to be like, oh no, you need help.
- 34:36And I mean, if they don't go there.
- 34:38Yeah. I mean, if they do that for
- 34:40episode 6 and she's like, giving a cup of coffee and they're
- 34:43like, yeah, no, no, we'll get you to safety.
- 34:46Will get you. Family or whatever, right?
- 34:48Like she's got a show, she's got a one stick into this whole
- 34:51thing of being a part of the UNSC or she's got info and she's
- 34:54gotten close enough to the artifact, which again, doesn't
- 34:56make sense. I think she's now solely there
- 34:58to get the other artifact and to killed.
- 35:00Yeah, those are her only two goals because I got the second
- 35:03one. So her only goal now is to get
- 35:04that first one and then do that and that could go away.
- 35:07Yeah. Yeah.
- 35:08So either way, I would be kind of upset though if the end of
- 35:11the series or the end of this season ended with, like, some
- 35:14big battle between her and chief because of my chief is like,
- 35:19She's a bullet away from Death, dude.
- 35:21Well, I don't know about that though because I she's got that
- 35:24little, you know, finger Pricks, energy, sword thing, who knows
- 35:27what else she's got. That was the stupidest ever
- 35:29seen? I like.
- 35:30Okay, but anyways, we're going to wrap this up.
- 35:32I'm back on board with the show. I'm back on board after episode
- 35:355. I'm hopeful episode 6 comes out
- 35:38this Thursday. I'm incredibly excited to watch
- 35:42it. It's called fumbling in the
- 35:44dark, I believe. So this is, could be pretty
- 35:47interesting. Oh wait.
- 35:48So you think the end is that what you said?
- 35:50The episode is? Yes.
- 35:52Colin bumbling. In the dark on Wikipedia, it
- 35:55says it's called Salat. They have all the names here on
- 36:01Wikipedia. They have Solace inheritance
- 36:03Allegiance and trans and it's although those could be just
- 36:05production names. Yeah, they're probably
- 36:07production team looking at the episode guide via all of them,
- 36:12have been one word, all of them. It was contact Unbound,
- 36:16emergence homecoming, Reckoning Solace inheritance.
- 36:21Okay, it is called solid so I don't know why on Google.
- 36:25It's saying it's called fumbling in the dark was it for something
- 36:28else, maybe like the web series it's just in the episode guide
- 36:31series episode. So whatever comes out on
- 36:36Thursday. Yes.
- 36:38So we'll see how that is. You can expect episode 6 and 7
- 36:42to be packaged nice and neat into a hotfix unless Unless it's
- 36:48huge. Unless yeah, this is huge.
- 36:50And then I'd say if they're smaller episodes are like there.
- 36:53I think 77 is good. I'd say we probably do a
- 36:56separate episode 48 and then obviously just leading up into
- 36:59the finale. Yeah, sure.
- 37:00Yeah, I'd say that works best. Because yeah, we're going to
- 37:02want to talk, I think about 9 because 9 episode 94 this or
- 37:06like, you know, adding that in we're going to have a we're
- 37:09going to talk about whole thing not just that episode.
- 37:13Also, along with that, just to wrap this up, fumbling in the
- 37:15dark is the second of two. Secret levels in Crash
- 37:18Bandicoot. Nice, I love Crash.
- 37:21Bandicoot what where's Mike? Where's my crash series vehicle,
- 37:24get him. They gotta get Nolan north of
- 37:26the voice anyways. So thank you guys again, for
- 37:31sticking around for another hot fix Evan myself, really.
- 37:33Enjoy doing hotfixes. So it's been kind of a bummer,
- 37:36not doing them lately, but again, yes, slow slow month for
- 37:40games. Not a lot coming out right now.
- 37:43We're creating a lot of content for the spawn Camp YouTube as
- 37:46well, gameplay. I know Evans got some awesome
- 37:50clips from Counter-Strike games. He's played and just like a
- 37:53bunch of games that he's played with Brody Fortnight.
- 37:56I know a lot of the guys are into that right now,
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