Latest / The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey / Building a new program with Delaware coach Allison Coomey
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- 0:03Speaker 1: Usccho dot com. We're back with another edition of the
- 0:13Speaker 1: off Season Podcast. I'm Todd Maleski here with Nicole Hosey
- 0:16Speaker 1: from usho dot com. Our guest today is Alison Komi
- 0:21Speaker 1: from the University of Delaware, which maybe you aren't familiar
- 0:25Speaker 1: with unless you've paid a lot of attention to what
- 0:28Speaker 1: Nicole has written over the last you know, a year
- 0:30Speaker 1: ago and going back before that. But the University of
- 0:34Speaker 1: Delawares is getting on the ices of VRC program for
- 0:37Speaker 1: the first time in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six,
- 0:40Speaker 1: and there's just so many fascinating things that have to
- 0:43Speaker 1: happen as part of getting a new team on the ice,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and Nicole are We had a really great conversation with
- 0:52Speaker 1: Alison about that, and I wonder, like, how why that
- 0:57Speaker 1: was important to you to kind of get get that
- 1:01Speaker 1: out there of what it takes to do this.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, the simple as answer is,
- 1:07Speaker 2: we want more women's hockey programs. And I feel like
- 1:10Speaker 2: I was lucky enough that it was reached out to
- 1:12Speaker 2: me that before Delaware was announced to like sort of
- 1:15Speaker 2: put the you know, have the exclusive and tell that
- 1:18Speaker 2: story and from the get go, the excitement from Delaware
- 1:21Speaker 2: and the sort of like they were like, well, we
- 1:24Speaker 2: have an arena on campus, so like, why wouldn't we
- 1:26Speaker 2: have women's hockey, And they were just very sort of
- 1:29Speaker 2: I feel like we've heard a lot about programs about
- 1:32Speaker 2: how hard it would be to add women's hockey, and
- 1:35Speaker 2: so I thought from the get go it was really
- 1:37Speaker 2: cool how much Delaware was just sort of like, well,
- 1:39Speaker 2: of course we're going to do this. It's not that
- 1:40Speaker 2: big of a deal. So that part was nice. And
- 1:43Speaker 2: then just talking to Alison for people to see sort
- 1:45Speaker 2: of the the nitty gritty of what it takes to
- 1:47Speaker 2: put a team on the ice, but even Alison talking,
- 1:51Speaker 2: I mean, they're obviously not to employ that there was
- 1:52Speaker 2: not a ton of hard work and all that sort
- 1:54Speaker 2: of stuff. But I think I hope that people and
- 1:57Speaker 2: administrators and stakeholders and the ones that made decisions hear
- 2:00Speaker 2: this and see that like, maybe this is a feasible
- 2:03Speaker 2: thing we can do, and that like this is what
- 2:05Speaker 2: helps women's call collegiate hockey keep growing. So I mean,
- 2:09Speaker 2: just from a hockey nerd perspective, it was fun for
- 2:11Speaker 2: us to get to learn a little bit of what
- 2:13Speaker 2: goes into the last year right, because she's just had
- 2:16Speaker 2: the job a little over a year, so we thought like, hey,
- 2:19Speaker 2: what what has she been doing, What does that look
- 2:21Speaker 2: like before she hits the ice, before she gets too
- 2:23Speaker 2: busy to have that conversation, And Yeah, I just I
- 2:27Speaker 2: hope that it the Delaware I hope that there's a
- 2:29Speaker 2: little bit of a blueprint here for for programs in
- 2:32Speaker 2: the future, because I was just really struck from the
- 2:35Speaker 2: get go from the administration about how they were sort
- 2:38Speaker 2: of like, yeah, this is a no brainer.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Yeah, from from getting players to scheduling games, getting equipment
- 2:44Speaker 1: and doing all these kinds of things, there's there's so
- 2:46Speaker 1: much that has to happen to get from the idea
- 2:50Speaker 1: and you know, yes, we're going to have a team
- 2:53Speaker 1: to actually putting players on the ice and having the
- 2:56Speaker 1: stand at the blue line for the national anthem, which
- 2:59Speaker 1: is something that Alison talked about, which you can tell
- 3:02Speaker 1: is something that she's really looking forward to that opening
- 3:05Speaker 1: night and getting out there to see that happen. And
- 3:08Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's such a huge moment for
- 3:12Speaker 1: any new program, and to kind of get the inside
- 3:15Speaker 1: of what it takes to get there was really interesting
- 3:18Speaker 1: for me.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, the way she talked about it made
- 3:21Speaker 2: me wish, like, well, I want to be there when
- 3:23Speaker 2: that happened, Like I think it would be cool to
- 3:24Speaker 2: be in the building. But yeah, I agree. It's just
- 3:28Speaker 2: there's clear passion there and I think, you know, it's
- 3:31Speaker 2: just really interesting to go from that, mean I asked her,
- 3:33Speaker 2: but like sort of the hypothetical of I am starting
- 3:35Speaker 2: a program, we're starting a program to actually hitting the
- 3:38Speaker 2: ice and sort of all of the things that come
- 3:40Speaker 2: in between. So we really hope you enjoy this conversation.
- 3:43Speaker 2: We really appreciate Delaware and Alison partaking the time to
- 3:46Speaker 2: allow us a little bit of insight on this process.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So, without further ado, here is our conversation with Alis
- 3:53Speaker 1: and Koumi.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Allison, thanks so much for being with us. We I,
- 3:58Speaker 2: you know, first had the story of Delaware is being
- 4:02Speaker 2: added and so now we're just wanting to come back
- 4:04Speaker 2: to you, you know, sort of on the verge of
- 4:07Speaker 2: hitting the ice and talk to you a little bit
- 4:09Speaker 2: about what it takes to build a team and so
- 4:13Speaker 2: maybe do you just want to start a little bit
- 4:15Speaker 2: and like where things stand for you guys right now.
- 4:18Speaker 3: Yeah, again, thanks for having us on really excited to
- 4:22Speaker 3: be back. It's it's crazy, it's a full year almost
- 4:25Speaker 3: a little bit over that since since we started, since
- 4:28Speaker 3: I got here. But we actually just finished our roster
- 4:32Speaker 3: and the last week, so we're up to twenty two players.
- 4:35Speaker 3: We feel that's a good number for for year one,
- 4:38Speaker 3: and we already have some commitments for a year two,
- 4:41Speaker 3: so we're we're pretty set on our next two years
- 4:44Speaker 3: in terms of our roster.
- 4:45Speaker 4: So really excited about that. Players from all.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Over, so excited to bring you know, uh experience from
- 4:53Speaker 3: you know, some other countries and that to the program
- 4:58Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, and we just completed our staff
- 5:01Speaker 3: as well. So really, really have things have gotten moving
- 5:08Speaker 3: since since last year?
- 5:09Speaker 1: At this time when you come in with a blank slate,
- 5:13Speaker 1: what surprises you? What has surprised you in terms of
- 5:17Speaker 1: things maybe you have had to do that you didn't
- 5:20Speaker 1: know you'd have to do to be prepared for fall
- 5:23Speaker 1: of twenty five being on the ice.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the first thing is like we don't
- 5:28Speaker 3: have anything to sell, right, Like we don't have we
- 5:30Speaker 3: don't have a record to sell to incoming players, and
- 5:34Speaker 3: so really relying on our staff's experience was a big
- 5:38Speaker 3: thing that I guess I didn't really know.
- 5:41Speaker 4: I didn't really.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Think that that would be something that you know, it
- 5:44Speaker 3: surprised me a little bit in terms of having to
- 5:47Speaker 3: you know, having to focus in different areas to really
- 5:50Speaker 3: get recruits excited about this place. You know, coaches here
- 5:54Speaker 3: when I got the job were like, you just got
- 5:56Speaker 3: to get recruits to campus, and I think that was
- 5:59Speaker 3: a big thing for us, getting people here to see it.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Obviously it's not a hockey school. Uh it's new to
- 6:06Speaker 3: the hockey world, not to the club world. Our club
- 6:09Speaker 3: programs are are very strong, but getting you know, getting
- 6:12Speaker 3: recruits here with something that we really focused on.
- 6:17Speaker 4: You know, our our athletic.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Department has done an excellent job of just preparing themselves
- 6:23Speaker 3: for in the university for for hockey, and so I
- 6:27Speaker 3: was really happy to know everything that was involved in
- 6:32Speaker 3: just like before I got hired, like communication with strength
- 6:36Speaker 3: coaches in the country, equipment managers, like how do we
- 6:39Speaker 3: run our day to day operations for this program? And uh,
- 6:43Speaker 3: you know that it it made me feel really confident
- 6:46Speaker 3: about where we're at and where the school's at, and
- 6:51Speaker 3: so that those are things that you know, as I
- 6:53Speaker 3: look back, really happy with how Delaware has has prepared
- 6:59Speaker 3: themselves to to add woman's ice hockey.
- 7:02Speaker 2: They're not a hockey school yet, Right, that's the keyword.
- 7:06Speaker 2: What what was it about this opportunity that made you
- 7:09Speaker 2: want to you know, you've been in assistants for several years,
- 7:12Speaker 2: Like what was it about the opportunity here at Delaware?
- 7:15Speaker 2: Maybe some of just what you said with with how
- 7:17Speaker 2: the university was so excited about it, But what was
- 7:20Speaker 2: about this chance that that made you say, like, this
- 7:22Speaker 2: is this is how I want to take on this
- 7:24Speaker 2: head coaching role.
- 7:25Speaker 4: Yeah. A big thing to me is support in academics.
- 7:29Speaker 3: You know, I've been I've been fortunate to be at
- 7:30Speaker 3: institutions that really value those two things. If you don't
- 7:36Speaker 3: have one, it's really hard to sell all of the other, right,
- 7:39Speaker 3: And so to me that that was a big part
- 7:42Speaker 3: of it. I do like the fact that it's a
- 7:45Speaker 3: little bit of a smaller not smaller school. It's a
- 7:48Speaker 3: big school, but the athletic department itself is a community
- 7:51Speaker 3: and I really felt like that was something we could
- 7:54Speaker 3: leverage here as well. And so those those are the
- 7:58Speaker 3: biggest things for me, Like is the education good? Can
- 8:01Speaker 3: I sell it to the international students who are going
- 8:04Speaker 3: home taking this degree home in athletics, like is it
- 8:07Speaker 3: important here? And I can say both of those things
- 8:10Speaker 3: are very important. So those are the two big things
- 8:13Speaker 3: for me.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Your most recent stop was a newer program. I don't
- 8:18Speaker 1: think we can call Penn State a new program anymore
- 8:21Speaker 1: because it's been long enough, but on the newer side.
- 8:24Speaker 1: So I wonder if from the experience there of building
- 8:27Speaker 1: that program, not especially from scratch, but from building it
- 8:31Speaker 1: to where we've seen it in the last couple of years,
- 8:33Speaker 1: what were you able to take out of that and
- 8:35Speaker 1: who can you lean on in terms of, you know,
- 8:38Speaker 1: if you need to know what you need to do
- 8:41Speaker 1: to build a program, but who are the people you
- 8:43Speaker 1: talked to to maybe get an encouraging word here or
- 8:46Speaker 1: there or some advice.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yes, Penn State was fairly new to
- 8:52Speaker 3: a certain extent when I got there. I think there
- 8:55Speaker 3: were six years old somewhere around there, so fairly new.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Hadn't really jumped jump to that next level. It did
- 9:01Speaker 3: take us a few years to get to that point.
- 9:03Speaker 3: And you know, they're in a good spot now, but
- 9:07Speaker 3: you know, in terms of starting a program. Brian da
- 9:08Speaker 3: Rocher's one like worked for him, and you're three of
- 9:12Speaker 3: the program at BU, so he had he had started
- 9:14Speaker 3: it from scratch. I talked to Tara Wachhorn, who I
- 9:19Speaker 3: coached at BU and is now back at BU, but
- 9:21Speaker 3: was coaching at stone Hill and started the program there.
- 9:25Speaker 3: My former college coach started the program when I.
- 9:29Speaker 4: Played, so I was part of a new new program.
- 9:32Speaker 3: So I have I have a lot of people to
- 9:35Speaker 3: kind of lean on and ask questions of Guy Gadowski.
- 9:39Speaker 4: I you know, I talked to him last week, so
- 9:42Speaker 4: I'll be reaching out to.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Him as he started the program at Penn State on
- 9:46Speaker 3: the men's side. But yeah, so so many resources that
- 9:50Speaker 3: I have to lean on. Obviously it's a little bit
- 9:52Speaker 3: different now than maybe it was ten fifteen years ago,
- 9:55Speaker 3: but the same you know, the same challenges, the same excitements,
- 10:01Speaker 3: Like all of those things are are similar in terms
- 10:03Speaker 3: of what you're getting out of student athlete experience.
- 10:08Speaker 2: How to ask what surprised you but maybe what would
- 10:10Speaker 2: surprise outside people about what this last year has entailed
- 10:14Speaker 2: and maybe kind of tied into that, what are I
- 10:16Speaker 2: don't want to say best and worst, but like maybe
- 10:18Speaker 2: like what's been the coolest thing of the last year,
- 10:20Speaker 2: and what's been one of the more difficult things about
- 10:23Speaker 2: doing what you're doing.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, when you're typically recruiting a
- 10:28Speaker 3: regular like recruit in a given year, you know, you're
- 10:32Speaker 3: juggling the balance of like of games and bringing recruits
- 10:36Speaker 3: in and trying to do all all of those things.
- 10:38Speaker 3: And I think the great thing about starting a program
- 10:41Speaker 3: is you have the benefit of really focusing on the
- 10:44Speaker 3: one thing that's going to be so important to your program,
- 10:47Speaker 3: and so spending time with parents and recruits like that
- 10:50Speaker 3: was probably my favorite thing. Really getting to know, you know,
- 10:55Speaker 3: the people that are going to come in and make
- 10:56Speaker 3: a big impression on our program from from the beginning,
- 10:59Speaker 3: and so having those conversations really you know, really getting
- 11:04Speaker 3: to know families, uh, was really important to us. The
- 11:10Speaker 3: weird thing was not having games, and so like I
- 11:12Speaker 3: spent a lot of my weekends if I wasn't recruiting,
- 11:15Speaker 3: just watching other college games filling the void of that.
- 11:21Speaker 3: But it was fun to see, you know, it was
- 11:22Speaker 3: fun to not have that pressure also, and like I
- 11:25Speaker 3: can just be a spectator.
- 11:26Speaker 4: I went to I went to a few.
- 11:28Speaker 3: College games to watch as a spectator, and it was
- 11:32Speaker 3: nice to to not feel the pressure of having to
- 11:35Speaker 3: win a game, or are the moments in the game
- 11:38Speaker 3: where you're feeling stressed.
- 11:39Speaker 4: I didn't have that.
- 11:42Speaker 1: When we talk about differences between as an assistant coach,
- 11:46Speaker 1: you're obviously you know, you're different. You're involved in a
- 11:48Speaker 1: lot of different things than you are as a head coach.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And maybe I don't know if you can answer this yet,
- 11:52Speaker 1: but what kind of things have there been, you know,
- 11:56Speaker 1: in that in that jump for you that have made
- 11:59Speaker 1: you say, oh, let me take a step back and
- 12:01Speaker 1: see how I would handle this, you know, as an
- 12:03Speaker 1: assistant and how it is different how I handle it
- 12:06Speaker 1: as a head coach.
- 12:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 12:08Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing right now is just everything
- 12:11Speaker 3: kind of falls on what on me right So, like
- 12:15Speaker 3: we could have and right now, I only I have
- 12:17Speaker 3: Melissa Samit'skovitch. We've been working together all year as my assistant.
- 12:22Speaker 3: But we'll talk about things and at the end of
- 12:24Speaker 3: the day, I've got to be the one to you know,
- 12:27Speaker 3: to say yes or no or make a decision on it.
- 12:32Speaker 3: So that's probably the thing I feel the most now
- 12:35Speaker 3: and I'm I'm assuming that's something that will be the
- 12:39Speaker 3: same when we have a team next year. But you know,
- 12:41Speaker 3: there's a lot of decisions to make too, and so
- 12:43Speaker 3: like trying to trying to make sure I'm not I'm
- 12:47Speaker 3: thoughtful enough, but I'm not like overthinking, you know, every decision,
- 12:52Speaker 3: because that's that that won't help us either move forward.
- 13:00Speaker 2: As you've mentioned, like you don't you don't have games
- 13:02Speaker 2: to take recruits to you you know, you're you're sort
- 13:04Speaker 2: of in that, so I would imagine that you're recruiting.
- 13:07Speaker 2: It becomes recruiting a bit of a character in terms
- 13:09Speaker 2: of like someone that understands the benefit of being part
- 13:12Speaker 2: of what's being built and that may like your recruit
- 13:16Speaker 2: profile may evolve, but right now, like can you tell
- 13:18Speaker 2: a little bit about like sort of what you're looking
- 13:20Speaker 2: for and what maybe you know, what you were seeing
- 13:23Speaker 2: to recruits and what you saw to them. That sort
- 13:26Speaker 2: of is what is building the foundation for you all,
- 13:29Speaker 2: because you're not just saying like you're a good player
- 13:31Speaker 2: and we're a good team, come to come play for us, right,
- 13:33Speaker 2: Like it's a little more complicated when you're starting.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I I give a lot of props
- 13:39Speaker 3: to all of our our players that have committed here.
- 13:41Speaker 3: You know, they've taken a chance on something they know
- 13:45Speaker 3: nothing about, and to me that that says a lot
- 13:47Speaker 3: about them already.
- 13:50Speaker 4: But you know, obviously we're looking for talent.
- 13:52Speaker 3: I think we've we've done a good job of finding
- 13:55Speaker 3: maybe some players that have gotten missed or developed late,
- 13:59Speaker 3: or had injuries during the time they should have been recruited,
- 14:03Speaker 3: and so we've.
- 14:05Speaker 4: Benefited from that.
- 14:06Speaker 3: They've obviously benefited with the opportunity to play Division One.
- 14:10Speaker 3: But you know, watching watching them play, talking to coaches,
- 14:14Speaker 3: really getting a sense of their character has been has
- 14:18Speaker 3: been great too, Like just to know.
- 14:21Speaker 4: You know when we're going to face adversity, because we will.
- 14:25Speaker 4: It's it's inevitable.
- 14:27Speaker 3: We've got seventeen first year players, so we're going to
- 14:30Speaker 3: be playing against a lot of experience most of the time,
- 14:33Speaker 3: and so making sure that you know, we have the
- 14:36Speaker 3: right characters to be able to face that adversity. It's
- 14:39Speaker 3: not going to be perfect, and we're going to work
- 14:40Speaker 3: on it, and but I'm really excited about the group
- 14:44Speaker 3: we have to be able to.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Do that together.
- 14:48Speaker 1: One of the other things about being a head coaches,
- 14:50Speaker 1: you're out there looking for non conference games too, and
- 14:54Speaker 1: I wonder what that's been like for you trying to
- 14:56Speaker 1: build build out that part of your schedule and how
- 14:59Speaker 1: we how challenging it has it been to get on
- 15:03Speaker 1: people's radar and say, hey, we'd love to have a
- 15:06Speaker 1: couple of games.
- 15:08Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've been fortunate, like I have some
- 15:11Speaker 3: really good friends in the coaching world that you know,
- 15:13Speaker 3: are excited about playing us and being a part of
- 15:16Speaker 3: our first season, and so that hasn't been as challenging
- 15:21Speaker 3: as I thought it would be.
- 15:22Speaker 4: Now looking at twenty.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Six, it's a little bit more challenging because of some
- 15:26Speaker 3: things that have shifted. But but yeah, it's been great
- 15:29Speaker 3: to I'm actually we're playing holy Cross and Kati las
- 15:33Speaker 3: Chappelle I played like played for technically she was my
- 15:36Speaker 3: assistant coaches and when I was in Niagara we worked
- 15:39Speaker 3: together for a long time at BEU, and so when
- 15:43Speaker 3: I got the job, she was like, I want to play.
- 15:45Speaker 4: I want to play you guys.
- 15:47Speaker 3: So so we're going to play holy Cross and and yeah,
- 15:51Speaker 3: we've pretty much filled our schedule. We do have an
- 15:54Speaker 3: open weekend. I'm keeping it open because I want an
- 15:57Speaker 3: extra week for our team to develop, so we might
- 16:00Speaker 3: play one less uh one less set of games.
- 16:05Speaker 2: One of the things in your background that I find
- 16:08Speaker 2: fascinating and I think would love to dig in more
- 16:11Speaker 2: at some point, is that you were a scout for
- 16:13Speaker 2: USA Hockey. Could you a maybe just give a real
- 16:17Speaker 2: I mean, I understand we all know what scouts are,
- 16:18Speaker 2: but what what that role was for you and how
- 16:22Speaker 2: that has informed who you are as a head coach
- 16:24Speaker 2: and your ability to to quote and recruit this first year.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for for the most part, my role
- 16:32Speaker 3: as a scout with TMOSA was basically scouting other other teams.
- 16:37Speaker 4: But I feel like I've learned a lot through that.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Uh you know, obviously you're watching other teams, but you're
- 16:42Speaker 3: also watching TMSA and the tendencies of those players.
- 16:46Speaker 4: And I mean just.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Even being a part of a program like that with
- 16:52Speaker 3: the best players in the world was pretty special. But
- 16:56Speaker 3: I feel like I did learn a lot about the
- 16:59Speaker 3: game just from watching video and going over things and
- 17:02Speaker 3: seeing patterns, and it was it was great too. It
- 17:06Speaker 3: was great to interact with the team. You know, a
- 17:09Speaker 3: lot of driven players there, and I think that's something
- 17:11Speaker 3: that translates over to what I'm looking for. Like, obviously
- 17:15Speaker 3: that's another level of investment, but but players that are
- 17:20Speaker 3: all passionate about what they do and want to you know,
- 17:23Speaker 3: want to win and be competitive, and that's something I
- 17:26Speaker 3: you know, I feel I gravitate to that winning mentality.
- 17:30Speaker 3: So it was an It was a great experience, and
- 17:33Speaker 3: I did it at the eighteen level and also the
- 17:36Speaker 3: national team Olympic level. So yeah, really really cool experience
- 17:40Speaker 3: and uh, definitely cherish my time there.
- 17:45Speaker 1: How has the you know, I don't know how much
- 17:48Speaker 1: you've been able to get into the transfer portal for
- 17:51Speaker 1: to try and bring players in for maybe you know,
- 17:56Speaker 1: people that are looking for a different kind of path
- 17:58Speaker 1: or different start and you can give that to them.
- 18:01Speaker 1: You've got a start off essentially. Does that speak to people?
- 18:06Speaker 1: Has that spoken to recruits? Has has that spoken to
- 18:10Speaker 1: people have gone through a college experience and and maybe said,
- 18:14Speaker 1: you know, I'd love to be part of something new.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's the interesting part, right, Like the portal
- 18:20Speaker 3: has so many players that they all want different things.
- 18:23Speaker 3: We actually got four players from the portal and we
- 18:27Speaker 3: feel like they're going to be great fits in terms
- 18:29Speaker 3: of just their character, leadership, you know, what they what
- 18:33Speaker 3: they bring on the ice, and and more importantly, what
- 18:35Speaker 3: they'll bring to us off the ice.
- 18:37Speaker 4: And so we had to find that group.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Like, you know, there's certain players that are maybe a
- 18:44Speaker 3: you know, maybe a top line thirty point player. They
- 18:49Speaker 3: might not be looking at a place like Delaware because
- 18:51Speaker 3: it's brand new and they don't know what to expect, right,
- 18:53Speaker 3: So really trying to find find the right people to
- 18:58Speaker 3: help us build our program.
- 18:59Speaker 4: And we feel like we've done a really good job
- 19:01Speaker 4: with that.
- 19:03Speaker 3: And again they've taken a chance again on a new
- 19:05Speaker 3: program after leaving some someplace that's that they're very comfortable with.
- 19:09Speaker 3: So yeah, we have some local a local player that's
- 19:13Speaker 3: coming back towards home and she's excited. She had mentioned,
- 19:18Speaker 3: you know, when I heard that Delaware was starting a program,
- 19:20Speaker 3: my heart was kind of set on it, and that
- 19:22Speaker 3: to me, that says a lot, you know, about her
- 19:25Speaker 3: and and what we're getting.
- 19:28Speaker 2: When generally, like a team will talk about like they're
- 19:31Speaker 2: they have a motto or a sentence or a couple
- 19:33Speaker 2: of words that sort of guide this season. When you're
- 19:37Speaker 2: getting this brand new group, is that something that you
- 19:39Speaker 2: foresee sort of like setting as the tone for your
- 19:42Speaker 2: season or do you think that that will come sort
- 19:44Speaker 2: of more naturally once you have the players on the ice.
- 19:47Speaker 4: I think part of it will come.
- 19:48Speaker 3: You know, we talk a lot about first here, obviously
- 19:50Speaker 3: Delaware being the first state, you know, with the first
- 19:53Speaker 3: woman hockey program. So we're going to celebrate the you know,
- 19:56Speaker 3: the first goal, the first win. I think those are
- 19:59Speaker 3: the and that's a word that that resonates with all
- 20:02Speaker 3: of us because it is very it's gonna happen, It's
- 20:05Speaker 3: gonna happen.
- 20:05Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lot of firsts.
- 20:07Speaker 3: And so with that specific word, I would say yes,
- 20:10Speaker 3: I think in terms of like what else we're going
- 20:13Speaker 3: to bring, don't have to have to let the team
- 20:17Speaker 3: figure that out.
- 20:19Speaker 1: The you know, support from administration is critical when you're
- 20:23Speaker 1: talking about starting something new. Uh, support from people in
- 20:27Speaker 1: the community, support from people in hockey is a big thing.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Where have you felt that the most in terms of uh,
- 20:35Speaker 1: you know, if I know there was an event with
- 20:38Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Flyers at that you know kind of at
- 20:40Speaker 1: launch at that at some point there. How can that
- 20:45Speaker 1: help in getting this off the ground.
- 20:48Speaker 3: I mean it's huge and I think even just talking
- 20:52Speaker 3: with our club programs here and the importance of ice hockey,
- 20:55Speaker 3: like they get quite a few fans at their games
- 20:57Speaker 3: and so you know, we're hoping to piggyback off that,
- 21:00Speaker 3: to be honest, piggyback off the success of Delaware already.
- 21:03Speaker 3: But you know, the the time I felt that most
- 21:07Speaker 3: was probably to what you're speaking to. Like, the Flyers
- 21:10Speaker 3: did a community caravan last summer and they stopped in
- 21:13Speaker 3: all these different areas in Delaware. In our ud was
- 21:17Speaker 3: like the last spot, and they said that that was
- 21:20Speaker 3: the most attended.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Community outreach. So that was to me, like, I mean,
- 21:27Speaker 4: it was packed. I was walking around. I'm like, I
- 21:30Speaker 4: don't even know half these people.
- 21:31Speaker 3: But but it was really exciting to see that in
- 21:34Speaker 3: the buzz around it, and I think, uh, you know,
- 21:37Speaker 3: our marketing team was like, how can we do this again?
- 21:39Speaker 4: Just right leading up to your game, you know, to
- 21:41Speaker 4: your first game.
- 21:42Speaker 3: So I think that obviously being you know, pretty close
- 21:46Speaker 3: to to the Flyers organization and now being connected.
- 21:49Speaker 4: With them, I do you think that's going to help
- 21:53Speaker 4: for sure?
- 21:55Speaker 2: When the program was announced, they really like talked about
- 21:58Speaker 2: sort of being in this this untapped market close to Philly,
- 22:01Speaker 2: like despite the East Coast being maybe not et cetera,
- 22:03Speaker 2: but having a ton of women's hockey programs that like
- 22:06Speaker 2: Delaware like the the ability of you all to fill
- 22:10Speaker 2: in in one of the gaps. And I guess I
- 22:12Speaker 2: just wanted to ask, sort of a year on from
- 22:14Speaker 2: everybody talking about that and having that ability if you're
- 22:16Speaker 2: if you're really finding that and feeling like you're familiar
- 22:19Speaker 2: with your conference, you're familiar with women's hockey, Like, how
- 22:22Speaker 2: do you feel about sort of how that was, you know,
- 22:25Speaker 2: how we talked about that and have you felt that,
- 22:27Speaker 2: like you guys, you have this pocket and you're really
- 22:29Speaker 2: fulfilling you know, a need there.
- 22:31Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're just talking to club coaches, you know,
- 22:34Speaker 3: from the Washington Pride, the Junior Flyers, like they're they're
- 22:39Speaker 3: so excited, you know, and I and I would imagine
- 22:42Speaker 3: teams will come down or come over, come up, you know,
- 22:45Speaker 3: to what it's playing, because because we are the closest
- 22:49Speaker 3: to them, you know. I think about it now, like
- 22:52Speaker 3: we have employees of Delaware that live in Maryland, Pennsylvania
- 22:55Speaker 3: and New Jersey and community here every day, and so
- 22:59Speaker 3: it is a you know, there's also a lot to
- 23:01Speaker 3: live here, but like there's so much there's so many
- 23:05Speaker 3: places close to us and organizations close to us that uh,
- 23:09Speaker 3: you know when I was growing up. Cornell was the
- 23:11Speaker 3: closest to where I lived from Sarah, like just outside
- 23:15Speaker 3: of Syracuse, and I remember driving to go to those
- 23:18Speaker 3: games and how how much impact that had on my,
- 23:22Speaker 3: you know, my career. And obviously I'm still coaching now,
- 23:25Speaker 3: so I'm like still part of it.
- 23:27Speaker 4: But if we can.
- 23:28Speaker 3: Create an avenue for you know, players to either play
- 23:32Speaker 3: or just love hockey more like, we want to do it.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I think we all hope, all of us who follow
- 23:38Speaker 1: the game hope that there are more schools like Delaware
- 23:41Speaker 1: that are willing to invest in women's hockey right that
- 23:44Speaker 1: that we hope that there's more growth getting from you know,
- 23:48Speaker 1: the mid forties and somewhere over fifty teams and then
- 23:51Speaker 1: we're talking you know, some some a real pathway then
- 23:54Speaker 1: for an expanded, you know, competitive level of Division one's hockey.
- 24:00Speaker 1: And I wonder what, whether you is there anything that
- 24:03Speaker 1: you can think of there that you would say could
- 24:06Speaker 1: help in that in in fostering more of a an
- 24:12Speaker 1: environment where it's maybe easier for schools to say, yeah,
- 24:17Speaker 1: we can do that. Having gone through this now for
- 24:21Speaker 1: for a year, is there anything that you know would
- 24:23Speaker 1: have made it easier?
- 24:24Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, that's a great question.
- 24:28Speaker 3: I mean I think about the p up in how
- 24:30Speaker 3: they you know, how they go to Detroit or where
- 24:35Speaker 3: else have they gone obviously like Seattle and Vancouver. You
- 24:38Speaker 3: know they've done those takeover tours, and you know, if
- 24:41Speaker 3: if we did something like that, how would that resonate?
- 24:44Speaker 3: You know, we take our games to maybe some schools
- 24:46Speaker 3: that don't have women's hockey and really you know, bring
- 24:50Speaker 3: the community to those those sites and see what happens.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Maybe it's it's definitely an exciting game to watch, and
- 24:59Speaker 3: I think that's the pro album as people just don't
- 25:01Speaker 3: really get out to watch it, and once they do,
- 25:04Speaker 3: they notice how how much fun it is. So that
- 25:07Speaker 3: would be my suggestion. But I don't know, I don't know,
- 25:11Speaker 3: I'm not a higher up.
- 25:15Speaker 2: What are you? I mean, maybe it's too obvious of
- 25:18Speaker 2: a question. So maybe other than getting on the ice,
- 25:20Speaker 2: what are you most looking forward to now that you've
- 25:22Speaker 2: put in the year of building your team? You said
- 25:24Speaker 2: you know you're kind of set now you're like the
- 25:27Speaker 2: seasons on the horizon. What are you most looking forward to?
- 25:31Speaker 3: Obviously getting everyone together, like we've had one zoom call
- 25:34Speaker 3: as a team and that was pretty special. But like, actually,
- 25:38Speaker 3: like being physically in the same place is going to
- 25:40Speaker 3: be something I look forward to. And I told the
- 25:43Speaker 3: team the one thing that I keep thinking about is
- 25:46Speaker 3: like our home opener, we'll have twenty We have twenty
- 25:49Speaker 3: two players, so everyone's everyone will dress, you know, everyone
- 25:53Speaker 3: will be on the line, on the blue line, and
- 25:55Speaker 3: just like that moment of just standing listening to the
- 25:57Speaker 3: national anthem and just seeing everybody in their Delaware jersey
- 26:03Speaker 3: is going to be pretty special. So that's something I'm
- 26:05Speaker 3: definitely looking forward to.
- 26:07Speaker 1: How much of you gotten into the details of like
- 26:10Speaker 1: what the sweaters look like and what kind of you
- 26:13Speaker 1: know what you know, I know you have a color scheme,
- 26:16Speaker 1: but what what you can do within that too to
- 26:19Speaker 1: make the team brand you know, pop out a little bit.
- 26:23Speaker 1: What how much that do you get into?
- 26:26Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually the jerseys already designed. They're well on
- 26:30Speaker 3: their way to being done.
- 26:32Speaker 4: You know.
- 26:33Speaker 3: For us, it's like, how can we how can we
- 26:35Speaker 3: bring our logo, you know out?
- 26:38Speaker 4: I think it's a pretty cool logo, so yeah, how
- 26:41Speaker 4: do we how do we bring that out?
- 26:44Speaker 3: I don't want to get it. It doesn't I don't
- 26:46Speaker 3: want it to be too busy.
- 26:47Speaker 4: I wanted to be simple, clean, just like here we are.
- 26:50Speaker 4: You know, so our equip.
- 26:53Speaker 3: Manager has done a great job of designing you know,
- 26:56Speaker 3: Samuels has great ideas as well. So I really on
- 27:00Speaker 3: the experts to kind of do that. But yeah, those
- 27:04Speaker 3: are those are things we think about for.
- 27:06Speaker 2: Sure, maybe because you don't yet and have the team there,
- 27:10Speaker 2: But have you had the moment of sort of like
- 27:13Speaker 2: because it's all a bit hypothetical at the moment, obviously
- 27:16Speaker 2: it's not you have your job, you're recruiting, but like
- 27:18Speaker 2: to go from the abstract of hey, I'm taking over
- 27:22Speaker 2: and I'm starting a program to the reality of it, Like,
- 27:25Speaker 2: have you had any of those sort of weird moments
- 27:28Speaker 2: or like being able to just really stop and take
- 27:29Speaker 2: it all in. I'm just curious about sort of the
- 27:32Speaker 2: It's just gonna be a little bit weird at times
- 27:35Speaker 2: to be like this hypothetical of I have a team
- 27:37Speaker 2: but not yet but we haven't started playing and all
- 27:39Speaker 2: of that bit of it.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I was at a tournament. I
- 27:44Speaker 3: was at Nationals actually and this year, and we were
- 27:49Speaker 3: I think two players maybe three players away from being
- 27:52Speaker 3: done with our roster at that time and I was like, wow,
- 27:55Speaker 3: this time last year, I didn't have an assistant and
- 27:57Speaker 3: I had no commits.
- 27:59Speaker 4: So like we're going, I'm.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Going to Nationals and I'm watching you know, five of
- 28:03Speaker 3: five or six of our kids in that tournament this year,
- 28:06Speaker 3: and so to me that was like, wow, we've really
- 28:09Speaker 3: come a long way. You know, we're not there yet,
- 28:11Speaker 3: but like we're we're there. So and I think for
- 28:14Speaker 3: the players too, it was fun, you know, after the
- 28:17Speaker 3: tournament to see each other and like physically like say hi,
- 28:20Speaker 3: or like talk about next year. Those moments to me
- 28:26Speaker 3: are the ones that stick out. You know, the first
- 28:28Speaker 3: commit for sure, and then the last commit to be done,
- 28:33Speaker 3: so all all of those things. Yeah, I'm like, you know,
- 28:37Speaker 3: when you're in it, you're just in it, right. It's
- 28:39Speaker 3: it's just like a season if you're if you're doing well,
- 28:41Speaker 3: you're not even looking at looking back and seeing how
- 28:44Speaker 3: well you've done. It's like onto the next game, you know,
- 28:46Speaker 3: until until it's over. So uh yeah, I'm still still
- 28:51Speaker 3: in it.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Last one for me is if we're looking out a
- 28:57Speaker 1: year from now, next next time off season, what what
- 29:01Speaker 1: would you hope to have accomplished by by next May
- 29:06Speaker 1: or next June or sometime through the through the season,
- 29:10Speaker 1: but also through the you know, the building into how
- 29:14Speaker 1: you kind of move from year one and then take
- 29:17Speaker 1: that and make it better and make that everything better
- 29:20Speaker 1: kind of after that.
- 29:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for us, like in year one, obviously
- 29:25Speaker 3: we want to win, we want to be competitive. We
- 29:28Speaker 3: also we also are realistic about it, and so for us,
- 29:32Speaker 3: I think making making the experience joyful for everyone, you know,
- 29:39Speaker 3: And so at the end of the year, were they
- 29:41Speaker 3: are they happy about being a part of it? Were
- 29:44Speaker 3: they you know, did they enjoy themselves, did they enjoy
- 29:46Speaker 3: each other? You know, did they push each other? Did
- 29:49Speaker 3: they get better? And I think those are the things
- 29:52Speaker 3: that you know, we might have to dive a little
- 29:54Speaker 3: bit into to really feel, but to me, those are
- 29:59Speaker 3: the things that are most important, especially for our momentum
- 30:02Speaker 3: going in the year two. You know, we have players
- 30:05Speaker 3: that can see, like the progress, then they're more hungry
- 30:08Speaker 3: for year two and so that's where that's where that's
- 30:12Speaker 3: where we want to be.
- 30:14Speaker 2: I think that's a great note. And thank you so
- 30:16Speaker 2: much for your time. We really appreciate it.
- 30:19Speaker 4: Thanks for thanks for taking the time to.
- 30:23Speaker 2: We're really excited to see you guys hit the ice
- 30:25Speaker 2: and so excited for you know, the continued growth of
- 30:29Speaker 2: of what you guys can do. And I think you
- 30:30Speaker 2: know it's how kind of mentioned it's great to see
- 30:33Speaker 2: a program put up, you know, adding women's hockey, adding
- 30:36Speaker 2: in an area that needed it, and hope that what
- 30:39Speaker 2: we see from you all is something we continue to
- 30:41Speaker 2: see in the future for women's college hockey. So thank
- 30:44Speaker 2: you for telling us all about it.
- 30:45Speaker 3: Yeah, same here, same here.