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S2 E33: Revisiting one of our favorite Clone Wars episodes, "Bounty Hunters" · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  It's Most Things Kenobi, an elegant podcast for a more
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  civilized fandom. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and
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  all things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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  And I'm your host, Leanne. I think we need to insert a
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  klaxon here. We can add, I will add a klaxon.
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  Here we go, klaxon alert. We've got news.
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  Yeah. Oh my God, we actually do.
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  We have big news. Obi Wan is coming on the show
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  again. Yes, yes he is.
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  It's happening. We're so excited.
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  We are just like beaming over here 'cause we were doing our
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  watch party last Friday. For Patreon, was it that?
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  It seems like a month has gone by since.
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  I know, seriously, Oh my God, we were watching like we're
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  currently watching the Kenobi series episode by episode with
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  our Jedi Masters in in our Patreon and it's like a live
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  watch party and then this happened.
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  Yeah, I'm like, hold up, everybody.
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  I'm busy. I got an answer to this text
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  message from James Arnold Taylor.
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  Pause the video. And so we all waited because
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  Lauren is busy texting with Obi Wan which is so amazing.
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  So he texts us. It's.
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  Crazy. Our life is surreal.
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  I I don't know how this happened, but I'm happy that it
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  did. Me too.
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  Well, I guess he's been seeing our posts about the Sith Obi
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  Wan. And I was kind of joking with
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  him on our post, like, hey, why don't you come on and talk about
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  it? And he's like, I'll have my
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  people call your people. And he really did.
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  And they did. So cool.
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  Yeah, So you don't want to miss our next episode.
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  It's coming out later in December.
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  It's going to be our interview, our second interview with James.
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  We've already done one, which was so epic and so much fun.
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  I'm that's why I'm really excited.
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  Don't don't forget though, he came to our Patreon hang out yes
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  with all of our patrons. He just decided to come on like
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  out of the kindness of his heart.
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  He hung out with us for an hour or so and it like he's an
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  amazing human being and super kind and and really, really a
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  true friend, friend of the show. So.
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  He really is. When Obi Wan says he wants to
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  come on the show, you find time. You say yes, yes.
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  Yes, even though I was almost dead with illness when we were
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  trying to schedule, we found the time and it is going to be a
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  good time. I cannot wait.
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  Well, and we'll do an actual video interview for our Patreon
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  members. I think we do that for Jedi
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  Knights and Jedi Masters. They get access.
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  I'll have to double check that. But yeah, we have.
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  If you want to watch or listen to the previous interview we did
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  with him, it was maybe 2 years ago I want to say and.
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  Yeah. Oh, it's crazy how long ago it
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  was. It doesn't feel that long
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  because it's like he stays in touch with us so frequently.
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  And I know he's awesome. It's really cool.
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  It. Was funny 'cause I was
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  renovating my bathroom, remember, and I had to ask to
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  ask the demo crew to come the next day.
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  I'm like, I'm sorry, I have an interview and it's really
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  important and you cannot be in my bathroom breaking the walls
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  down. Nobody needs a bathroom
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  renovation when Obi Wan calls. OK, like that is such an Anakin
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  thing anyway, so. It really is.
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  Oh my goodness, I'm already laughing so hard I'm like
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  crying. Anyway, I know he's not even
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  here yet. I know.
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  So join us next time for that, it's going to be freaking
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  awesome. Join our Patreon if you want
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  more access. Last time he recorded special
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  little tour of his office for us, showed us some Knick knacks.
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  He recorded like a a commercial for us.
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  He sent us interviews or interviews autographs.
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  My brain stopped working. He sent us autographs to send to
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  our Patreon members. Like it was awesome.
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  So if you want some exclusive stuff, join our Patreon because
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  that's where it's all going to be.
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  I can't. I can't wait.
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  I know next episode's going to be epic.
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  It's going to be great. Just as epic as the last time he
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  was here. So get ready folks, he's coming
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  back. 1 is a lovely tie in. We're actually talking about one
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  of his Clone Wars episodes today.
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  We are, because it's been a minute since we talked about a
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  Clone Wars episode, and we like to return to our favorite
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  episodes and our favorite moments.
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  And that's what we're doing today.
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  And it's kind of a great segue into next episode with James
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  Arnold Taylor. It is.
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  We're talking about Bounty Hunters from season 2, which is
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  kind of a stand alone episode, is super quirky and really fun.
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  We have always loved this one. You and I used to watch it
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  together on Netflix Party all the time.
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  Yeah, the the original watch party.
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  Yeah, between you and I. Where we could pause and rewind
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  as many times as we wanted. And we did and we did.
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  And this was one of those because he Obi Wan, I feel each
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  character of the trio, right, of Anakin, Ahsoka and Obi Wan, all
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  are highlighted here for completely different reasons,
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  Yes. But I think, I really think that
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  Obi Wan is kind of the rock throughout all of this.
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  Yes, which is how he's in mortise.
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  Also. He's like the center of of
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  rational thought. Yes.
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  And honestly, it's kind of a lovely tiered system.
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  He's the older and wiser, followed by Anakin that he's
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  just trying to wrangle, followed by Ahsoka, who Anakin's trying
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  to wrangle while Obi Wan is trying to wrangle Anakin.
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  And it's like this. But then actually at the
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  beginning of this episode, Ahsoka seems to be the most
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  mature one. Yeah, I know.
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  I like that they start bickering and snarking right from the
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  first moment. But yeah, the beginning where
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  they crash land is just a hot mess and I love it.
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  That's why I'm here for for all things Clone Wars.
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  Yes, they start literally sassing each other while they're
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  crashing, which is just like what?
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  The little pods that they fall into, that they why haven't we
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  create? Have we talked about this
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  before? Why those haven't been created
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  yet? I think you and I have because
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  we love the little bouncy like the the sounds that it makes and
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  everything, yeah. It just really makes sense.
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  Maybe not from an engineering standpoint.
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  Maybe that's why we don't have them in, you know, IRL in real
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  life. But I just love that it's just
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  kind of like an effortless little yeah, it's I don't.
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  What's it called? Like a parachute sack.
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  Yeah, it's like instead of a parachute, it's just a like a an
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  absorbency bouncy ball, which I'm pretty sure if you fired
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  yourself out of an F16 that would not work.
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  No it wouldn't. It probably would not work at
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  all, but seems to work fine in the Galaxy.
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  I was watching a documentary about the Thunderbirds, which is
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  kind of like, if you know, the Blue Angels, they're the Navy
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  Thunderbirds, I think are for Air Force.
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  And there was a moment in this documentary where one of the
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  guys had ejected at least once and I think maybe twice, but at
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  least one time. And he was saying it's not
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  something you just walk away from.
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  Even if it goes well, which we never hear this, you know, and
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  in shows like this, they eject, boom, boom, boom right back into
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  the show. It's crazy.
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  And they they say the experience 14 to 18 GS on their body when
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  they eject and that is enough compression on your spine that a
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  lot of them lose up to a full inch of height for the rest of
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  their lives. No way.
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  Yeah, it's nuts. They're slightly short.
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  And I've heard also that, you know, if you have an ejection in
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  your history, sometimes they ground you, possibly because of
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  medical reasons, possibly because of financial reasons
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  'cause it's kind of expensive to crash those planes.
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  But yeah. True, like this guy had to get
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  massages all the time 'cause his muscles were so compacted from
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  ejecting that he couldn't, like, move.
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  It it makes sense, right? It makes sense.
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  It's crazy, but oh we want an Anakin.
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  Never lost their job and were never grounded so.
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  And their hair looks fabulous as always.
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  Fantastic. No matter.
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  Never I heard. Geez, they're pulling.
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  They look great. It never pulls their face all
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  funny. No, never.
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  I mean, Obi Wan's in a perpetual state of like sass.
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  Yes, yeah. So, so it tightens his sass up a
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  little bit, but I mean, other than that, it's just another day
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  for these. Two, it's true.
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  It's true. Anyway, sorry to sidetrack us
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  into reality. You know I.
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  I find that completely fascinating.
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  I do want to say how much I love Felicia.
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  I think I've said it 1000 times before.
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  It's one of my favorite planets. Everything is beautiful.
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  And also frightening, though, yeah, because there's a lot that
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  can kill you on Falusia. You don't don't think I would
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  want to live there, but I like seeing it in the someone has
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  said like they need to do a David Attenborough kind of like
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  animal show. And I think they need to do a
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  travel show for Star Wars where the here is Falusia and show us
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  all the little things about the planets.
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  I would love that with like fake drone footage.
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  Yes, over the landscape. That would be amazing.
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  Felicia should be at the on the top of that list.
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  And then they could hire James to narrate them like a travel
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  documentary with his like very soothing voice that he tells.
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  It would be so perfect in Canon. Like, keep it like it's in the
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  Star Wars universe. I'm 100% here for all of this.
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  This is a great idea, Disney. Hello anyway.
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  I love the like the aesthetic of everything.
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  I would everything. I think it's so first of all,
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  it's beautiful 'cause it's colorful and then it's warm and
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  it seems very inviting and then the little village is so cute.
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  And their voices do. I can't remember, I didn't look.
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  But who voices the little the leader of the Turtle people?
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  Oh, I did look, actually, because I was really surprised.
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  The one who's afraid all the time.
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  Yes, Steven Stanton. Who did?
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  Tarkin. Oh my.
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  God. There's.
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  Enough buddy. Oh my God, voice actors and
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  actresses are amazing. Yeah.
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  And then the main. Guy so cute.
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  The main guy is Greg Baldwin. The no, the the one that's the
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  one that's afraid is cute. Yeah.
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  The the main guy, Cassis, I think, is his name.
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  He is voiced by Greg Baldwin, who if you've ever watched
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  Airbender, Uncle Iro or Iro, however you say it, the main
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  actor who played him died while they were making the show and
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  they replaced him with Greg Baldwin for the last season.
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  I see. So he's actually a pretty well
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  known voice actor as well. And they just are so good.
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  They're the little voices, the little characters are really
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  precious. I love them all.
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  They are. And then when they come out and
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  they're badass at the end and they just spear people through
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  the chest and just kill, it's like, oh, I didn't know it.
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  And they're all like cheering. Like, yeah, it's.
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  Like you just killed somebody. You just speared a guy.
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  Do we really want this to happen?
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  This, this episode is classic Star Wars.
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  We have a community that's kind of green, that doesn't know
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  anything, very peaceful, doesn't want to be bothered with the
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  outside world, has some outside Force bad guy come in and the
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  Jedi have to teach them how to defend themselves.
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  It's like word for word. We've seen it in so many types
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  of media of Star Wars, OK, like classic.
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  But the fact that it's a group of bounty hunters and those
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  three Jedi, it's just a mess. I.
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  Know it's great and you know how it's dedicated to Kurosawa at
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  the beginning. Yeah.
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  I was like Kurosawa died a long time ago, like he died in 1998.
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  So I've always wondered why it's dedicated to him and it's
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  because this story is 7 Samurai. Oh and now it all makes sense.
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  Which is also why when you say it's classic Star Wars, also
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  makes sense because original Star Wars is based on Oh my
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  gosh, which one was it now Hidden fortress something
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  fortress? Oh my gosh I can't believe I've
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  forgotten it. I'm ashamed.
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  But either way. Like you've said it 1000 times
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  in other episodes though, so yeah, I.
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  Don't remember now of course my brain is failing me now.
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  But so yeah, like it is classic Star Wars cause Star Wars is
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  based on Kurosawa and it's so cool because I, I didn't, I did
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  not take Japanese film when I was at school.
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  So I don't have a lot to compare it to or dive into, but I do, I
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  did look up some stuff about it and it's also the Magnificent 7,
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  you know, the cowboy movie, which is also based on Kurosawa.
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  'S movie well. Yes, to put in like, yes,
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  American context, but the thing that really struck me, I was
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  listening to this YouTube, The House of Tabbula or something
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  like that, and he made this really brilliant point that
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  Kurosawa focuses on less on the action and more on the
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  consequences of the action. Yeah.
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  And I feel like this episode is is a lot of action based, but
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  it's still like you see people die in this and you don't see
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  that very often. In Clone Wars it's droids, but
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  you don't see living beings die that often, and not from both.
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  Sides too. Yeah, deaths on both sides.
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  Exactly. And he said something I thought
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  was really brilliant. He says that the majority of
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  modern action films almost fetishize the way they shoot the
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  protagonist. And he was showing Marvel movies
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  and it's true. They focus on the protagonist in
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  the center and they're fighting people.
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  But you never see the bad guys. Kira Sawa movies slow down the
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  death of the bad guy and you have to watch it because it puts
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  interesting, it puts the hero's actions into context that even
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  though they're heroes, there is a consequence.
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  And totally, I feel like that is fairly present in this episode.
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  I think it's kind of cool. I mean, it's a kids show, so
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  they don't they don't go and do it that much.
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  But we do see like Embo break somebody's neck.
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  Oh, yes, from the back, Yeah, but still.
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  And they. And then, yeah, there's the
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  spear through the chest from the turtle person.
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  Somebody gets thrown into the electrified fence.
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  Yeah, and you like see it all? Yeah, and then there's the one
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  female, I believe it's female from Bounty Hunter.
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  She gets, she's the one that gets killed.
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  And Sateen's voice. What's her name?
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  Oh God. Suki is the character about Anna
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  Graves. Yeah.
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  So Suki, because Anna Graves does the voice of Suki.
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  So Suki is the one that like reacts to this other bouncy
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  Hunter's death like Jarred by it because they obviously had some
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  sort of relationship or close, close relationship and not good.
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  Yeah. So yeah, they do show it in in a
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  as much of an animated quote kid show capacity.
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  Right for in a 20 minute you know yeah.
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  So yeah, yeah. But I, I think it's cool that
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  they, it's really a, a very blatant homage.
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  There's even like cinematography that's similar where they show
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  everyone with the Spears, you know, training.
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  And it's cool. It's it's really cool.
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  And it makes me want to go watch Kyra Sawa films because it will
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  put context, you know, it'll put Star Wars in more context for
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  me. I just don't like old movies,
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  which is such blasphemy from a film student, but I really just
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  don't. You have to honor them for what
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  they provide and give. Yes.
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  And then just keep a pushing. You don't have to linger, Just
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  keep a pushing, that's all. Yeah.
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  I it's since you mentioned it, I do love that Anna Graves voices
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  Sookie 'cause there's some flirting going on with her and
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  Obi Wan. We've said it before, there's a
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  little back and forth there. Yeah.
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  And if you know, you know. And they know.
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  And we know, so everybody knows. You know what?
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  I. Mean do they know?
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  We know, they know, we know. I don't know but we know now so
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  you can kind of hear the little bit of now listen, Obi Wan is
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  not one to flirt often but he will flirt in a situation Asaj
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  Ventress. Yes.
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  And now we have Sookie, Sookie, Sookie.
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  I want to say Sookie, but that's from that vampire movie or
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  series. Remember the?
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  Terrible True Blood. True Blood.
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  Terrible, horrible. Her name was Sookie, but not
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  Sookie. So I'm trying not to.
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  Nobody cares, but there's some flirting there.
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  There's some flirting there. And wouldn't you?
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  The way that that bluish Gray light when they're all having
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  like their little meeting at the table.
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  Good God. Holy hell, why are they so
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  beautiful? They're not even real.
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  They're not real, but they are. They're they are.
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  They're so handsome. They really are.
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  Both Anakin and and Obi Wan they look good.
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  Yes, yeah, yes. And every single scene.
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  That's why this is one of the ones that's super fun to watch.
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  It reminded me all over again how fucking ridiculous the
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  Anakin and Hondo like Showdown was with the whole, with the,
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  with the with the lizard. Yeah.
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  Voiced by Matlancer, I just. Yes.
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  Some meta it's. Lanter against lanter.
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  She's like. So great because the things like
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  biting his ankle, like a little ankle biter, he won't get off of
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  him and he's like, get off of me.
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  Get damn it. I give that lizard, the Quackian
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  Monkey lizard, full credit because if you can get to Anakin
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  Skywalker plus two points, you know what I'm saying.
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  I loved it when he kicks it and it goes like flies through the
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  air. When you know it's mad, it makes
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  it even funnier. It's like, how did Dave say to
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  him, OK, Matt, I'm going to need you to be a lizard flying
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  through the air, Like, how do you do that?
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  But. He did it perfectly.
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  Just like that. Like that he.
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  Did. And I like Hondo, who was kind
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  of sparring with Anakin, but not really until Anakin kicked that
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  thing and then he got mad. He got mad because he kicked or
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  threw or punched or waved away his little lizard.
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  And he's like, not my lizard. And then he went for him like
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  harder than before. I kind of felt that.
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  I I feel that Hondo, I would defend the lizard.
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  Yeah, I feel like Hondo in this episode is meaner than usual.
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  He's. You Well, he's got some, he's
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  got some money invested in those crops.
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  Yeah, he must owe someone a debt or something 'cause it's so
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  ruthless and I know had nose a pirate and everything, but they
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  often will imply that there's like a twinkle in the eye.
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  And if you offer him enough money, he'll, you know, sure,
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  I'll look the other way. Not here.
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  He's like threatening these little sweet people and.
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  I know. It's really sad.
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  I know you know what I love about these little turtle
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  people? What?
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  Is that they have like a driveway.
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  Did you notice that they have like a lit driveway of?
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  Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, like, like, you know, if you're driving up to like a
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  stable or like a big farm, like a like a prize winning farm and
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  they have that thing at the entryway, it's like a.
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  It says like the name of the ranch or something like that.
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  Yeah, and it's like 2 pieces of wood with a piece over the top,
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  but it has like the name of the ranch on it.
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  So yeah, the turtle people have like 3 or 4 of them.
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  And they had lights on them 'cause I paused it and I'm like,
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  do they have a fucking driveway? They do.
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  And it was like a little entryway and it was kind of
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  cute. I thought it was cute.
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  I'm like, they, they actually have a cute little community.
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  I would live there if they would let me.
• 22:26
  I want to. I love their little pod houses.
• 22:30
  Yes. As long as you can frost the
• 22:32
  glass for privacy, I would totally.
• 22:35
  Oh sure, live in one of those. Listen to.
• 22:38
  US. Well, sometimes you don't want
• 22:40
  the whole neighborhood seeing everything you're doing.
• 22:42
  And no. Especially if Obi Wan could
• 22:44
  always come over. We're going to have to frost
• 22:49
  those, Sookie. And you were frosting that glass
• 22:51
  up really as soon as. Possible.
• 22:53
  Yep, yes, exactly. But you're right.
• 22:58
  I like their little, I like their little pods.
• 23:00
  You know, I I always compare this episode to like the lemur
• 23:04
  community. Yes, that episode was that
• 23:08
  season 1? I think so.
• 23:10
  The one when Anakin gets injured.
• 23:12
  Yes, but they also help fortify that.
• 23:14
  The Lerman that. Community.
• 23:16
  The Lerman? Yes.
• 23:17
  What did I call them? Lemurs.
• 23:19
  Well, they're like lemurs are. Real.
• 23:21
  Yeah. I think they're kind of based on
• 23:23
  lemurs, yeah. But they're like the the their
• 23:25
  character names are Lerman. I love that episode.
• 23:27
  Yeah, I do too. But this is very similar in the
• 23:32
  way that like they're defending their own community against a
• 23:35
  bad guy, etcetera. Yeah.
• 23:37
  And I just think it's so great. Where they seem to have won,
• 23:43
  right? Like the the turtle people have
• 23:44
  seemed seemed to have driven them off or killed enough of the
• 23:48
  the pirates, right. But there's a moment where the
• 23:52
  the the turtle guy that's like afraid stabs someone and he's
• 23:56
  like, yeah, we did it or something.
• 23:58
  And Obi Wan just kind of looks at him like he knows there's
• 24:02
  more to it than that. Are you all right?
• 24:05
  Yeah, there's like you want to let them have their their
• 24:12
  rejoicing moment, but at the same time, like Obi Wan knows
• 24:15
  it's not over until Hondo leaves.
• 24:17
  Like, right, 'cause Hondo's really the reason why they're
• 24:20
  even fighting this fight. Yeah, can we talk about how Obi
• 24:25
  Wan uses the Force to smash that bike into the fence?
• 24:30
  Where, where he lifts it up, Yes, over.
• 24:33
  And then boom, right. It's so hot.
• 24:35
  It really is ridiculously hot. I really need to see you and do
• 24:40
  that. Can't we like?
• 24:41
  Just. It's like we've always said,
• 24:44
  when they use the force somehow, for some reason, it's really
• 24:48
  yes. Yes, it's just so good.
• 24:52
  It's so good. It's real easy for him too.
• 24:56
  Yeah, he just outsmarts it. Doesn't even need a lightsaber
• 25:00
  or anything. He's like, I'll just take care
• 25:01
  of this, no problem. And then Sookie shoots them
• 25:04
  right in front of him and he's like, well.
• 25:06
  Right. Guess that's what's the cost of
• 25:10
  war. I mean he did electrocute them
• 25:18
  first so like. Well, you know, I mean, what's
• 25:26
  his name? Himbo.
• 25:27
  Jimbo. Himbo.
• 25:30
  Himbo. Himbo.
• 25:34
  He's a Himbo. Oh.
• 25:36
  My God. Well, Ambo is Dave Filoni, even
• 25:41
  though it's kind of like. Yes, it's like.
• 25:44
  Wow, wow. Yeah, it's just.
• 25:45
  Like how he does Chopper? Exactly.
• 25:48
  But I do appreciate that it's Dave Filoni.
• 25:51
  Kind of reminds me. It's like his hat is like
• 25:53
  Captain America shield essentially.
• 25:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like impenetrable.
• 26:00
  I wonder if it's Bescar. Yeah.
• 26:05
  Oh, it could. Oh, you know what it might be.
• 26:07
  Where'd he get it though? Did he steal it?
• 26:08
  That's a good question. Kill for it.
• 26:10
  Probably. Probably.
• 26:11
  Probably. I'm sorry, you were going to say
• 26:14
  something before I talked about himbo.
• 26:16
  No, I was going to say something about that.
• 26:18
  I just think because it's Dave Filoni, it's kind of cool that
• 26:20
  his creatures like a wolf, which is so Filoni, you know?
• 26:24
  Oh, he loves the wolves. Yes, very true.
• 26:27
  Yeah, and we can't forget the little guy in the big suit.
• 26:31
  Yeah. Which I can't remember his name.
• 26:34
  Oh my gosh. I love him so much.
• 26:39
  Who does the voice? It's not even listed as one of
• 26:42
  the characters. It isn't.
• 26:45
  He speaks, though. No, he does.
• 26:47
  It must be one of the main actors Who does it, then.
• 26:50
  I don't know, but he's adorable. He reminds me of Bob Hope.
• 26:55
  No. No.
• 26:56
  Oh, I'm sorry. Not Bob Hope.
• 26:58
  Not Bob Hope. Bob Newhart.
• 26:59
  Bob Newhart. Both.
• 27:05
  Like either one makes no sense, but he to me, like, he even kind
• 27:10
  of like if you were to turn Bob Newhart into an alien, I think
• 27:13
  he would be like that. And he's so.
• 27:16
  I. Mild mannered and quiet.
• 27:20
  I think I was thinking Newhart when you said that, though.
• 27:24
  Because. Soon as you said it, the same
• 27:27
  picture popped in my head, so it's the same person I was
• 27:29
  thinking of. This that was space twin.
• 27:36
  Oh man, cuz Bob Newhart's from Chicago.
• 27:38
  So my brain would always think of him over Bob Hope for some
• 27:43
  reason. So yeah, I I just said the wrong
• 27:46
  thing. Doesn't the character kind of
• 27:50
  strike you as like he used to be like a door to door salesman and
• 27:53
  now he works for these bounty hunters?
• 27:55
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, he must have sold them
• 27:59
  some sort of promise vacuum. Cleaners.
• 28:04
  He probably sold him the best card that they made Himbo's hat
• 28:08
  out of so. I like that we're calling him
• 28:12
  Himbo from now on. Oh my.
• 28:15
  Goodness, is it M Bo. M Bo Yeah.
• 28:18
  OK, all right. I'll try and say M Bo.
• 28:21
  I knew it was M something Bo anyway.
• 28:25
  Bob Newhart and Himbo. I love this episode so much.
• 28:33
  Now I'm going to love it even more.
• 28:37
  Something else I noticed about Obi Wan too, when he was talking
• 28:40
  and they're sitting at the table and he gestures with two fingers
• 28:45
  and I've noticed this with him before because it's rude if you
• 28:49
  gesture with one and Anakin immediately like points at
• 28:52
  somebody with one finger right after Obi Wan uses 2.
• 28:55
  I just think it's such an interesting subtext.
• 28:58
  Now how in the hell did you notice that?
• 29:01
  I don't know, I just always noticed it because they very
• 29:05
  deliberately draw him gesturing with two fingers because it's
• 29:08
  more polite and I've seen it in other episodes before.
• 29:13
  That is so brilliant, I never ever thought of that.
• 29:17
  He's like too elegant and well mannered to point at someone.
• 29:22
  Obi Wan is cultured, Anakin is a heathen.
• 29:29
  I mean Anakin's standing the whole time.
• 29:31
  Which like, granted there may not be enough chairs but we know
• 29:36
  it's because he's impatient right?
• 29:38
  And he's like a fidgety person. I feel like Anakin would have a
• 29:42
  fidget spitter if he if he could get his hands.
• 29:44
  On one, yeah, definitely. You know, and that's not a knock
• 29:47
  on him, it's just his personality type.
• 29:49
  So I feel like like my dad has to stand whenever we're having
• 29:54
  like a family meeting and stuff because he's he's antsy, He's
• 29:57
  got that pent up energy. And some people are like that.
• 29:59
  But but not Anakin. But Obi Wan is the cultured,
• 30:03
  patient, polite half of this duo and poor Ahsoka.
• 30:09
  She's just trying to figure out what what's right and what's
• 30:12
  what's. Wrong.
• 30:12
  I know she's going with her. How?
• 30:14
  To grow up, that's the thing. She's so young.
• 30:16
  It's such an interesting argument too because she's not
• 30:19
  wrong but neither is Obi Wan when Obi Wan says that better
• 30:23
  they get robbed by pirates than attract attention of General
• 30:26
  Grievous. Like yes that's also true.
• 30:29
  It's the lesser of two evils which some people don't like
• 30:32
  being forced to choose between. But some people, like Obi Wan,
• 30:37
  realize sometimes you have to make that kind of choice.
• 30:41
  It's true. It's true.
• 30:43
  It it's a hard decision. And and I think that's what was
• 30:46
  the title card of this one. Do we remember?
• 30:48
  Yeah, I wrote. It down it's courage makes
• 30:50
  heroes, but trust builds friendship.
• 30:55
  Sometimes I feel like these stories final cards don't I'm
• 30:58
  I'm like where? Who's making the friendship?
• 31:03
  Obi Wan with the bounty hunters? Like what?
• 31:05
  That's the that's the open-ended question.
• 31:07
  Is it the bounty hunters and the Jedi or the Jedi with the turtle
• 31:12
  people or the turtle people with themselves?
• 31:15
  Do they trust in themselves now? Because they had no courage
• 31:17
  before, but now, yeah. You know, there's a lot.
• 31:21
  There's a lot going on there. Yeah.
• 31:23
  I mean as soon as Hondo shows up, he got Kenobi, you know he
• 31:27
  does the old like so great my old friend.
• 31:30
  Here we are again. You know, every time Jim
• 31:33
  Cummings time his he is. He's fabulous, One of the best
• 31:37
  examples of why AI Voiceover can fuck off because it's missing
• 31:42
  everything that someone like Jim brings where it's so detailed
• 31:47
  and so layered and it's so good that they it turns A1 off
• 31:51
  character into a recurring theme in multiple shows.
• 31:55
  Not just like multiple episodes, multiple shows he shows.
• 31:59
  Up a degree more and he's. At the parks now, isn't he?
• 32:02
  At the Star Wars park, he's there as a character.
• 32:05
  Rondo is like the he introduces you to the Smugglers Run.
• 32:09
  Yeah, he's part. He's the reason Smugglers Run
• 32:12
  exists, technically. Yeah, so it's because of Jim
• 32:16
  Comedy's performance, because he's so fucking good.
• 32:19
  Oh my God, I loved his last line too.
• 32:23
  When he shouts that this effort is no longer profitable.
• 32:28
  This effort is no longer profitable and I've always loved
• 32:37
  how it's Hondo and his Brig Brig and of of fools right that have
• 32:44
  the actual alien spaceship. I know in.
• 32:47
  This Galaxy far away yes, they're the only ones that have
• 32:51
  the stereotypical alien spaceship of.
• 32:54
  Flying saucer. Like.
• 32:56
  Straight up. I know it, I love it.
• 33:01
  I do too. Someone had to have it at some
• 33:04
  point. You're in this fucking Galaxy of
• 33:08
  made-up shit with made-up species and made-up planets.
• 33:12
  Everyone there is an alien to each other, right?
• 33:14
  Yeah. And and someone's got to have
• 33:17
  the UFO, Yeah, you know. And I'm glad it's Hondo.
• 33:21
  Me too, he deserves it. We love this episode.
• 33:25
  This episode is is just. It literally has everything.
• 33:31
  It does. It does.
• 33:33
  It's action. It's humor.
• 33:35
  It's beauty. Yeah.
• 33:37
  There's deeper meaning in there somewhere.
• 33:39
  We just have skipped over it. No, I, I once again, a poor
• 33:46
  little colony on some planet has something that's more valuable
• 33:50
  to somebody else and they, they're going to get it stolen.
• 33:53
  And it's sad. And they defended, you know, I
• 33:58
  hate when the big bad guy comes in and takes from the little
• 34:00
  guy. Yeah, it's still early enough in
• 34:03
  Clone Wars where you can use an episode like this and and feel a
• 34:09
  little bit of hope, because the later into Clone Wars you get,
• 34:14
  the less this kind of success happens.
• 34:17
  Right. Because, I mean, the Empire is
• 34:19
  going to come eventually, we know, right?
• 34:22
  And decimate, yeah, entire, I mean, think about Andor.
• 34:27
  I know. Gore, the gore.
• 34:29
  I know. When I think about Andor next to
• 34:31
  this episode is like, I don't want to know what happens to
• 34:34
  these little sweethearts. Like I'm just going to pretend
• 34:37
  that they live in a bubble and everything is fine.
• 34:40
  Yes, I hope after these three Jedi and those damn bounty
• 34:45
  hunters leave them, they live in peace forever and ever and
• 34:49
  that's it. And nobody touches them.
• 34:51
  Exactly the end. I hope we never get a part too.
• 34:57
  I know, and I hope they just all live happily ever after.
• 35:00
  Can somebody in the Galaxy live happily ever after?
• 35:04
  If if anyone? It deserves to be the turtle
• 35:06
  people all. They're doing is growing,
• 35:08
  healing herbs. They're just nice.
• 35:10
  They're nice. Folks, yeah, they are a simple
• 35:14
  life. Just keep Obi Wan, Anakin and
• 35:20
  Ahsoka away from them 'cause no good comes from whenever those 3
• 35:27
  land on your planet. Well, in case you needed
• 35:34
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• 35:38
  It's James Arnold Taylor, and he's coming back to the show.
• 35:43
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• 35:46
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• 35:49
  episode, we just don't know where.
• 35:52
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• 35:55
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• 35:57
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