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Now I’m Playing with Power! 🔥 Ep #6 · Ultimate Rewinds Podcast

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So, I wanted to have this conversation
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with you because I know you, you know,
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you're a little bit younger than me, but
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you definitely had some home consoles
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growing up as a kid. What was your like
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first recollection of a video game
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console that you had in your house?
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The first video game console I remember
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having is the NES. So, the Nintendo
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Entertainment System. I have fond vivid
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memories of blowing into cartridges to
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make sure that it worked and like that
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flickering red light you had to just
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mess about with the little loading tray
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to try and get the game to start
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sometimes. Um, that for sure for me is
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one of my earliest memories of gaming
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and probably one of my fondest to be
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honest. I've got the the action set in
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the back there. It's definitely any
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I was going to say that. I was going to
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say that you got a picture there in the
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back. You know, it's it looks great.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's I mean, you know, the
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is it the zapper, the orange gun
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that that you know, we had very many so
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very many games of duck hunt with the
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family, all trying to compete for the
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high score. Um, do you know what I
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actually found out? What's really crazy
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is probably only like maybe six or seven
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months ago, I found out you could
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actually control the dog with the other
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controller.
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Yeah, I found that as well. Same thing
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about the same time frame. I saw a
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video. I don't remember where I saw the
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video, but the second controller could
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move the duck, which is wild.
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I literally had no idea. That is that
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literally blew my mind because that
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like, you know, we all just huddled
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around the TV watching one person play
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at a time. If they advertised that a bit
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better, it would have been even more
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fun.
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Agreed. That I I I used to hate those
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freaking ducks and I hated the dog that
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popped up on the bottom of the screen
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when you when you miss the stupid thing.
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But now with like I have like a lot of
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um you know the ROMs I forget what
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they're called right now but the um
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recreation that's the word. Thank you.
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The emulators on on some of my AR home
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arcades that I have. So like the stuff
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that I have it makes it a lot more
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easier. There's like uh
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there's stuff in there you could put so
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like you can always you know show where
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you're shooting so it makes a lot
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easier.
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Uh you know back then forget it man. It
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was just like uh that game was one of
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the harder games I played. Let me ask
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you cuz my that wasn't my first console
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that I remember having, but how old were
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you when you think you got that NES?
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Um,
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it must have been we I must have been
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about
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I'm trying to go I'm trying to claw back
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how far I remember what age I was, but I
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mean when did it come out? 1985
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was it? It came. So, I actually just did
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a video about this on my channel, which
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is actually going to We're filming this
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today on a Tuesday, but it's actually
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going to release tomorrow on a
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Wednesday. But, believe it or not, it
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had a soft release in 1985 and then a
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full release in 1986.
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Okay. So, I was born in 1987. So,
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obviously us being in the UK, we get
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everything a little bit delayed behind
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yourselves in the US. I probably would
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have said that I would have been about
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three or four maybe my first experience
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of it, but then I I would probably been
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about five or six when I was really into
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into it.
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Yeah. Uh to me like I remember I don't
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remember if it was 85 or 86 where I got
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my console. I do remember my first
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experience with a home console was al
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wasn't the NES, but my first experience
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with the NES was at my cousin's house
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who lived in
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I think he lived in Rockland County, New
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York at the time. And I remember going
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over his house and he had the first
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iteration because it came with Rob the
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robot.
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Oh yeah.
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And I'm looking I'm looking at this
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thing and I'm like, "What the f is this
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stupid robot?" Because I didn't
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understand how it worked with the
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system. But I remember playing games
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like kung fu. He had kung fu. I think he
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had Gyroite and and a few others and I
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was just like hooked and every time I'd
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ask him to play he would always like
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start the game over and play himself and
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he was a real [ __ ] about it. But
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[laughter]
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the NES to me was in my opinion the
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greatest system. But I want to share my
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experience first before we go on
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continue with yours in the NES. My first
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gaming console that I remember was the
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Atari 2600. I knew I was a little bit
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older than you. So yeah, another great
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thing is like my cousin, different
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cousin, believe it or not, had the Atari
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2600 and they had
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um not a lot of games, but a few here
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and there, and I would always kind of go
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to their house and and and just sit
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there for an hour playing it when we
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were visiting them.
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Yeah.
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But I remember games like I don't know
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if you even heard of this game called
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Kaboom.
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So, Kaboom, it it was a real weird game
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because it was like a convict in the in
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the white and striped, you know, gar
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they garb they wear at the top of the
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screen and on the bottom was like three
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barrels and that's what you controlled.
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There's these three barrels going side
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to side, left to right. I actually
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mentioned it with um Ricky when we're
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talking about video games and it's the
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guy drops bombs from the top of the
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screen and you have to catch them in
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these barrels and if it one of them
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falls to the floor you lose a life. So
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that's my greatest memory on the Atari
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2600 besides Pitfalls and another game
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that I played constantly
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but uh yeah just just wild. So the NES,
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let's get back to the NES because that's
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I I agree with you. It's
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my first love when we're talking about
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video games. Mhm.
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You had the console when you were a kid,
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3 or 4 years old, whatever it was. Do
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you remember a specific game that you
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played like or a couple?
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Yeah. So, uh, Super Mario,
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like that game for me, like hours and
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hours trying to get further and further.
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Um, but in true uh, you know, games back
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in the 80s and the '9s were a lot more
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difficult than they they are now today.
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I don't know if like you know if you
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play modern games but there's there's
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checkpoints there save points you don't
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if you die you're not really dead but
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with on these games you go back all the
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way to the beginning man like if you
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lose all your lives. Um
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y
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so it it is frustrating and I probably
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would say it probably caused
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a lot of stress and anxiety for little
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kids [laughter]
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like not dying and you know like doesn't
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help when the the timer as well. It's
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got a timer on the level, so even if you
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try to be careful, like the time runs
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out, the time runs out, you lose a life.
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So, um, yeah, definitely Super Mario
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Brothers. Uh, I only actually really
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clock that game on the Nintendo Switch
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because it has that like if you die, you
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can rewind and go back so you can kind
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of save yourself.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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but yeah, that that that game for me was
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awesome.
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kids today that don't know the pain that
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we went through. You know how many
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controllers I threw at all of my systems
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back then? Atari 2600, NES. I mean, in
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order for us to save a game, we'd have
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to like pause and leave it on all night
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and then come back to it the next day,
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right? So, there was no save. It was
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just like, "All right, I have to leave
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this on." And then maybe your parents
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saw the light on and they shut it off on
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you and you I I remember losing my mind
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more than once on my dad doing that.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that, you know, those
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were the days. And, you know, like we're
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talking about the the Nintendo Zapper,
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like that gun doesn't work with modern
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TVs. It only works with CRT TVs. Um,
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so like it it's kind of, you know,
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unless, you know, CRTVs at the moment go
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for quite a bit of money. They're quite
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valuable. Um, but with the modern like
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LCDs or OLEDs and stuff like that, they
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just do not they're not compatible. Um,
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but I'm I'm just checking out the duck
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hunt box here because I've got it here.
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And I was hoping on the back it was
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saying about controlling the the the the
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ducks, but it it says one or two
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players. So,
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you kind of think that that just means
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that,
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you know, not that you can control the
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deck. They need they need to advertise
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that better.
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But, you know what? That game was ported
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from an arcade. So, that game was in the
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arcades and you couldn't do that in the
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arcade that I knew of. like there was no
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way that someone can can could use the
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other gun because it came with two guns
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in the arcade that someone could, you
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know, flail the other gun and and move
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the duck. So, I don't know if that's
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something they added in. Have you tried
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it? That's the next thing cuz I haven't
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tried it yet. So, is it tried? I don't
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even know.
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I've not tried it to be fair. Um but the
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the the only thing I would probably say
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is these were always like um like in the
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action set there that it came on like a
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double cartridge with Super Mario. So,
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and you never really got like an, you
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know, instruction manuals were just
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thrown out like willy-nilly back then.
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So, there was never anything really
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about it. So, this is as an adult is the
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first time I've actually got like a a
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box of it. So,
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so I was going to say that that system
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that you had was the was the the the
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re-release because the original system,
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I'm not even talking about the one with
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Rob that the first one, but the next one
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after that was just a control deck that
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didn't come with um the double
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cartridge. It only came with Super Mario
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Brothers, so that was a single
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cartridge. Everything like you must have
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had like the the re-release after that,
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which makes sense because you were um
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obviously a lot younger than I was when
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I got it.
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Yeah.
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But the the also the other thing I've
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just recently learned doing that other
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video about NES was that believe it or
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not, the Super Mario Brothers game, the
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original, didn't perform well in Europe
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compared to the US. The US it was a
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massive hit, but it didn't perform well
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in Europe.
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Wow. That's that's really interesting
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cuz literally I have like fond memories
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of like when I originally like my first
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encounter with Mario was obviously Super
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Mario Brothers the game, but it was like
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I remember like seeing just all of a
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sudden seeing Mario everywhere. So you
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go there'd be like I remember getting
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like sticker packs for sticker albums
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for Super Mario and it' be literally
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the stickers would literally just be
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like a level in the game and like you
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put put it in your sticker album. Um
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yeah and like obviously a TV s like a
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cartoon came out as well and stuff like
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that but so it was quite I thought it
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was quite big but maybe maybe the
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numbers weren't as strong maybe. I don't
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know. I
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I don't know. I was just going from when
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I was reading doing my research for the
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video, but um
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regarding the NES, were besides Duck
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Hunt and Super Mario Brothers, you have
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any others that you were like, "Oh, got
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into playing so much?"
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Yeah, so Batman um the 1989 Batman game.
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Um the [clears throat] Turtles game was
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unbelievably
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challenging, especially like early on in
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the game. Like there sometimes with like
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you can't you just can't carry on
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playing it and you get to a certain
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point I can't do this. Like
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you're talking about the original
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Turtles game, right? Not the arcade that
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they got the release the second release.
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So yeah, I'm talking about this one.
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Yeah, that's that's the one they they
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should have just gone with the arcade
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from the beginning. They decided to go a
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different route.
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This this is a a masterpiece. An
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absolute masterpiece this game. But this
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is
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Have you ever played the arcade? In the
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arcade?
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Uh, I think so. Yeah, I would have
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played I would have played it in an
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arcade somewhere. Um, 100%. I actually
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did. Um, they had uh on the PlayStation
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Plus like maybe a few months back. They
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had uh like the uh I want to it's like a
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a compilation of all the the Turtles
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games over the years. So it like I
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pretty much did most of them on that. It
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was easy quite easy to play and again
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you could kind of rewind and go back if
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you got stuck.
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That's what's good about modern gaming
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right now. It's like you get to play all
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the classics for an inexpensive price
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which is great.
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I remember the the Turtles game strictly
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from the arcade. I did have both
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versions. is the one you showed on the
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NES. But you're right,
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that original Turtles game I had and it
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was so difficult that difficulty that I
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just I gave up at some point and just
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kind of moved on to another game. But um
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back to what you were saying, you played
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the Turtles, you played Duck Hunt, Super
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Mario, obviously
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Super Mario 3 was Super That was a great
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another great game.
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Phenomenal.
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I remember when that game originally
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released. So, I don't know if you
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remember the movie The Wizard with Fred
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Savage.
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Um, no. I'm not familiar with that one.
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Oh, dude. When you have two hours to
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waste, go look for the movie The Wizard
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with Fred Savage. It's about about this
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kid who's like autistic and he's like a
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whiz at some of these video games. And
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he he runs away from home and he they're
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heading to California to play in this
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this tournament. And they released Super
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Mario Brothers 3. And this is before the
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movie came before the game came out in
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the United States. It was our our first
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look at the game before it actually came
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out. And I remember going to that movie
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like, "Oh my god, everybody was so hyped
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for that game." And and when it came
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out, I remember calling every Toys R Us
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around to see if they had the game. I
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remember I was at work with my father
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and I'd be sitting there just like in
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the freaking phone book cuz that's how
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it was back in the day. You had to go to
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yellow pages and look out every toy
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store and I would be calling everybody,
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"Do you have this? Do you have this?"
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Finally, I found one about 20 minutes
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away from his work and he took me there
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after work and I got it. And that game
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was a lot easier than the the original
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Super Mario Brothers, but nonetheless a
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great a great game.
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Well, the additional power of being able
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to like fly and stuff was was great to
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be fair.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, do you play
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any sports game on the AS?
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Um, so what? No. So there was like a I
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remember there's like a Formula 1 game
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which was okay, but the my I think that
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the the sport one that probably stood
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out for me was there was um was it Punch
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Out? Was it not Punch Out?
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Was it Punch Out?
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Punch Out. Mike Tyson's Punch Out or the
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regular one? Because Tyson's Punch Out
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came out in like 87
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I think. And then a couple years later
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they they um released Mike Tyson. They
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his contract expired and they just
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re-released it as Punch Out with a
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different guy at the end, Mr. Dream.
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Yeah. I I don't I mean, it's one of
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those things where it's like that that's
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almost like what do they call that? The
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the Mandela effect where it's like
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people remember it from that, but then
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when you get a copy of it, that's that's
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not how I remember it. Like,
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yeah,
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you know what I mean? Um, no. I I I
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think I would have had the second
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version to be fair cuz I don't remember
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Mike Tyson being on it, but I remember
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uh I remember seeing that in like a
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video and stuff about it. To be fair,
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that game, Mike Tyson's Punch Out to me
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was the greatest game. I I don't want to
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say for any console ever, but especially
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for the NES, I believe that's the number
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one game of all time because the hype
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surrounding that game. So, I I have a
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story to tell when it comes to this game
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cuz it's one of my fondest memories as a
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kid.
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Okay.
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So, if you go back and watch some of the
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commercials,
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but for that, you've got to beat Mike
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Tyson.
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Mike [music] Tyson's Punch Out from
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Nintendo. Now you're playing with power.
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The commercials for the Mike Tyson's
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Punch Out video game was unbelievable.
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It's basically him in a dark room with a
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bunch of TVs and he's like shadow boxing
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in the commercial and the hype around
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the game was crazy. So again, that was
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another game where I remember it was
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almost around Christmas time and my dad
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kept telling me, "I'm looking everywhere
15:34
for this game and I can't find it." I
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guess he was trying to like tell me
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like, "You may not get this thing
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because it's it's really hard to find."
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Yeah.
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So I gave him a list of another game
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which happened to be Ghosts and Goblins.
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I don't know if you ever played that,
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but
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I said, "If you can't get it, you know,
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you know, I'd like this game as well."
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So,
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I remember I don't remember where we
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were. It might have been a KB or
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whatever. And he's like, "All right, I'm
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going to get you Ghost and Gobblets."
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And I knew it's Christmas, but he's
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like, "Listen, let's let me just get it
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just in case you can't find the other
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one. You know what's coming." Whatever.
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I said, "Okay, fine." So, come Christmas
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morning. Okay. And like I said, this is
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my most fondest memory I have as a kid
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under the tree, just me and my dad.
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because that's how I grew up. We're
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we're unboxing presents, stuff like
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that. And
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I get to the last gift and it's that
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Nintendo box. So, I'm thinking, "All
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right,
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Ghost and Gobblets." I open that thing
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and it's Mike Tyson's Punch Out. And
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when I said, I was like
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floored. I was so excited and so happy,
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man. He he he spoofed me. He got me and
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I ended up going to my aunt's house
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later and she gave me the Ghost and
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Goblins. But it was just like I I was so
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ecstatic
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to get that game in. And it was like one
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of my best experiences I ever had. But
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if you go back and play that game now,
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it's just as hard as it was back in the
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day. Still some great memories fighting
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some of these guys like King Hippo, Don
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Flamco, and I can name them all because
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I still play to this game on my
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emulators now, but uh such an iconic
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game.
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Yeah, it's interesting that you say
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about like that whole you you've got
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that as a core memory for you, that
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whole punch out thing with your dad. Um,
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it's a special memory and uh I I've got
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a a similar story myself where I I
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remember I I was probably about maybe
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about 10 I'm guessing 10 11 and then I
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opened at Christmas like my mom and dad
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had split up when I was real really
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young and my dad had got me some
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Christmas presents and I was open
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Let me stop you right there because I'm
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the same way. My parents split up when I
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was really young as well. So
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Okay. Yeah. um childhood divorce
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obviously uh pretty much most people are
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these days let's be honest but
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um yeah so I used to get obviously
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presents from my mom presents from my
17:53
dad and then
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I got uh I open a present from my dad
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you get like and it was a game boy
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advance game and it was like Harry
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Potter
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and the ch it's so Harry Potter and the
18:06
philosopher stone or the sorcerer stone
18:08
or whatever you guys call it and I was
18:10
like oh what like in my head I was
18:12
thinking What a [ __ ] Like he's
18:15
[laughter] I've only got I've only got a
18:17
Game Boy Color or whatever it was. I was
18:20
like he's bought me like the wrong game
18:23
and I was like ah. So anyway, so I'm
18:26
opening a few more and I was like oh he
18:28
bought me another Game Boy Advance game.
18:30
I was like why? I was like oh I was
18:33
thinking I can't play any of these. And
18:35
then I got a bit further in and there
18:37
was a Game Boy Advance. cuz I was I was
18:39
literally flawed because like I was like
18:42
was not even expecting it. I didn't even
18:44
I didn't even know he knew what a Game
18:46
Boy Advance was.
18:47
So, it was pretty that was a nice
18:49
memory.
18:50
That's awesome. And that that's what
18:51
it's about. I hate to say it. That's
18:52
what this podcast is about. Remembering
18:54
[ __ ] like that, sharing experiences of
18:56
of getting something like, you know, big
18:58
moments in your life where, you know,
19:00
you want to kind of share with other
19:01
people. That's an awesome story, man.
19:03
Yeah. But I mean the, you know, when the
19:05
Game Boy came out and I got that um
19:08
Pokemon Red that the hours I put into
19:12
Pokemon was like
19:15
that game was that game was amazing.
19:17
Yeah, I've heard that from from a lot of
19:19
people that that game was good. Before
19:21
we exit out of the NES, anything else
19:23
you want to say about like games or the
19:26
system itself? Yeah. So, I I remember so
19:28
like, you know, um there weren't many
19:31
like uh game shops in the UK that really
19:35
did like pre-owned stuff back then. So,
19:38
like if you wanted to come across NES
19:41
games and like our collection of NES
19:44
games, like none of them were boxed,
19:47
like no manuals. It was all literally
19:49
just the cartridges in like a almost
19:52
like a suitcase, like a plastic suitcase
19:55
that we kept them all in. And I we we
19:58
have these things called car boot sales
20:00
here where people literally just
20:03
they go to an open field, pull up in
20:05
their cars, put like a table and a
20:08
blanket down and they sell goods like
20:11
they sell like their pre pre-owned stuff
20:13
like a flea market.
20:14
Like a flea market. Yeah. Um, and that's
20:17
where I would go I literally would spend
20:21
hours going like looking for Nintendo
20:24
games and like you'd be like, "Oh, how
20:28
much Nintendo games?" And they'll be
20:30
like, "Oh, 50p." And you'll be like,
20:32
"I've only I've only got I've only got
20:35
30p." Uh, would you take 30p?
20:38
[laughter] And I we just amassed like an
20:41
amazing collection of games. Um, so like
20:45
I was really spoiled in terms of uh the
20:49
the games that I had available to play
20:51
for the NES and it's just I have like
20:56
that that's not my original one cuz we
20:58
lost it when we moved like years and
21:00
years ago. But I bought this probably
21:02
about you know when you become like an
21:04
adult and you earn adult money.
21:07
Yeah. Like I think probably one of my
21:09
first paychecks I went out and bought
21:11
this
21:13
like
21:13
I I have one right here. I don't know if
21:15
you can see it, but right behind some of
21:16
these games is I have the same ex same
21:18
exact set. I I bought it about a year
21:20
ago at a at a toy show. But yeah,
21:22
listen, that's we want to recapture our
21:24
youth and remember some of the stuff
21:25
that
21:26
it kind of made us who we are. And
21:28
definitely the Nintendo was was one of
21:31
those things. But back to what you said
21:33
like about like you were able to still
21:36
like trade in games a little bit and
21:38
like buy games at like a flea market.
21:39
When I was growing up with the NES, we
21:41
didn't have any of that stuff. My
21:43
greatest memory of going to like buy a
21:45
game or find a game is is Toys R Us. Did
21:47
you guys have a Toys R Us where you are?
21:49
Yeah, we had we had one in one in the
21:51
city.
21:52
So, do you remember at least the one
21:55
here? you tell me if it was uh the same
21:57
by you, but they had one aisle of just a
22:01
wall of NES games and on the opposite
22:03
wall was Sega Genesis games or the Sega
22:06
Master System games. It is what it was.
22:08
And it was just like the pictures of the
22:10
game and and under the picture was like
22:12
like a like a receipt that you had to
22:14
take out and bring to the register and
22:16
then you would pay for and then you take
22:17
that receipt to like another place in
22:19
Toys R Us and they would come out of the
22:21
back with the game. Did you guys have it
22:22
like that?
22:23
No. So, my only memory I mean I I
22:27
remember like probably the last
22:30
the last time I probably went to a Toys
22:32
R Us cuz they closed down over here
22:35
was probably was probably when I got my
22:38
Gamecube which was what 200
22:40
Yeah, long time
22:42
five maybe. He just there's absolutely I
22:44
can't even remember when that was 2004
22:47
some sometime around there. 2003. Um,
22:51
but like my earliest memory of Toys R Us
22:54
was really toys. I don't remember ever
22:56
seeing games when I was younger there.
22:58
Um, let me tell you, man, taking that
23:01
ticket up to the counter because
23:03
sometimes you'd get there for a game you
23:04
were looking for and the tickets would
23:05
be out, meaning they were out of stock
23:07
of the game.
23:07
That is the worst disappointment you
23:09
could have as a kid. Walking up to that
23:11
game and seeing that box right there and
23:12
having no tickets underneath. But when
23:15
they did have it, taking that ticket is
23:17
like the most excitement you could ever
23:19
have. Walking to the register and then
23:21
walking to where you had to pick up the
23:23
game. It was like the anticipation and
23:24
the excitement was like
23:27
it was palpable when I was a kid.
23:29
Yeah. It's like the winning lottery
23:30
ticket. You've actually been able to get
23:32
a copy.
23:33
I was like Charlie Bucket, man. You
23:34
kidding me? Walking [laughter] up the
23:36
[ __ ] ticket,
23:39
you know.
23:41
[laughter]
23:41
Exactly. Run, Charlie.
23:44
run straight home and don't talk to
23:46
anybody. That's what that's what it was
23:48
like.
23:51
Let's segue into your next home console.
23:55
Uh so that would have been my Game Boy
23:57
like that was like I remember I don't
24:00
know if you I presume you guys had them
24:02
in the US cuz everything you guys got
24:04
everything first, but I had like the
24:06
see-through one
24:07
so it's like clear.
24:09
The case you mean?
24:11
Yeah, the case. Yeah. So, you could see
24:12
all like the circuit boards and
24:13
everything inside and the chips and
24:15
stuff
24:16
and I was just like blown away. Like I
24:20
absolutely loved it. I remember Super
24:21
Mario Land. Um, I remember there was I
24:24
had like a Turtles game which I
24:26
absolutely loved but it was really
24:29
difficult and I had like a Bart Simpson
24:33
trying to escape some camp and like it I
24:37
I remember distinctively like it was on
24:41
like the bookcase
24:43
and I was like for the whole summer I
24:45
was trying to find it and I was like
24:46
it's on the bookcase why can't I find it
24:49
like the game and I just remember for
24:51
the whole some not being able to find
24:53
it. And then one day I just said,
24:54
"Right, I'm going to tear the house
24:55
apart to find it cuz I thought like I
24:59
just lost it."
24:59
Yeah. Yeah.
25:00
And in the end, I found it on like I
25:03
found it on the bookcase like right
25:04
right at [laughter] the end of when I
25:06
was looking. I just literally torn the
25:08
house upside down looking for this game
25:11
and the game was awful. Absolutely
25:13
awful.
25:14
There there were a couple games that I
25:16
play were absolutely awful. There's a
25:17
Three Stooges game for the Nintendo that
25:19
it's like the dumbest game you could
25:21
ever want to play. But I got to tell
25:23
you, man, for some reason, I played that
25:25
stupid game all the [ __ ] time. It was
25:28
like Three Stooges Trivia. It was like
25:30
getting these crackers that were being
25:33
eaten by bugs in the soup and you had to
25:34
get the cracker before the bug ate it.
25:36
Yeah.
25:36
Just stupid ass game, but I played it
25:39
all the time.
25:40
Sorry. So, Game Boy Advance. I had the
25:42
original Game Boy and I think I was in
25:43
seventh grade. I remember getting that
25:44
Game Boy. Um, besides some of the games
25:48
you played, was that the color version
25:49
or No, because I only had the black and
25:51
white.
25:51
Yeah. So, my first ever Game Boy was the
25:54
black and white with this with the clear
25:56
um plastic for the case. Um
25:58
Okay.
25:59
And that's what I predominantly I mean
26:01
it took four batteries like
26:04
just that thing like lot like drank
26:06
battery acid. But um
26:09
yeah, that that that was my first one. I
26:11
remember like I used to have like a
26:13
clear massive case to put my games in,
26:15
but you know, I wasn't very organized in
26:18
as a kid. And
26:19
I could tell with that with that
26:20
Simpsons story.
26:22
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And uh I remember I
26:24
mean I don't know if I'm guessing you
26:26
didn't play Pokemon Red, but I remember
26:29
getting that and playing it and uh
26:32
playing putting a lot of hours into the
26:34
game and uh there was this cheat where
26:38
you could do like get in infinite like
26:44
um in the game they have these things
26:46
called rare candies. So, you can give a
26:48
candy to a Pokemon and it will go up a
26:50
level to like his experience level.
26:52
Okay.
26:53
And there was a there was a a cheat
26:55
called there was basically like a a
26:58
glitch in the game with a um a Pokémon
27:01
that just didn't exist. It was basically
27:03
like there was 151 Pokémon in the game
27:08
and this one was like 152. It wasn't
27:11
supposed to exist. It was like a test
27:13
reference character from like the, you
27:15
know, in the game. And you used to be
27:18
able to go, you used to be able to do if
27:20
you did like things in certain order and
27:22
like moved in the in the right way, you
27:24
used to be able to go and find him. And
27:26
if you fought him and you caught him,
27:29
like you'd be able to get infinite
27:32
objects like in your inventory. And that
27:35
those rare candies meant that you could
27:36
level up your Pokémon to like level 99
27:39
or 100.
27:40
And um I remember doing that for the
27:42
first time and being like, "Oh my god,
27:44
this is amazing." Like, "I can't believe
27:46
this is in the game. This is in the
27:48
game." Leveled up all my Pokemon. I
27:50
probably put like 25 hours into the game
27:53
easily. And the next time I went to go
27:57
and switch my Game Boy on, the game had
27:59
corrupted and I'd lost the save. And I
28:01
was like, man, that like it was
28:05
heartbreaking cuz I was literally like
28:07
I was like at my friend's house and I
28:09
was going to show him what to do and how
28:11
to get to it and I was like fired at my
28:13
Game Boy and it was like where the where
28:16
the hell is my save gone? Like
28:19
but you heard you heard about these
28:21
things but you just didn't think it
28:22
would happen to you.
28:25
What what I was meant to say earlier was
28:27
that after Punch Out, there was a game I
28:30
really loved on the NES called Exciter
28:32
Bike.
28:32
Yeah, Excite Bike. That was one of the
28:34
originals.
28:35
That was honestly that was probably that
28:38
was up there with one of my favorite
28:39
just casual playing games. Like you
28:42
could just go and have a bit of fun on
28:43
it and like 5 10 minutes, 15 minutes and
28:45
then
28:47
just just, you know, switch off. It was
28:49
good.
28:50
That was another game that was ported
28:51
from an arcade. So that's where
28:53
Nintendo, I think, why it was so iconic.
28:55
And we can we could talk about Nintendo
28:56
for two hours here. That's why I call it
28:58
the greatest console ever because
29:00
a lot of those games that Nintendo
29:02
already had as arcades, they were able
29:04
to port to the NES. And that's what I
29:06
think made the console a tremendous
29:08
success. Um, some of the other ones um
29:11
sports-wise uh for the NES, I'm trying
29:14
to think now um that Nintendo had like
29:16
right out of the gate, but
29:18
yeah, I'm I'm drawing a blank. But
29:20
again, we could spend the entire show
29:21
talking about about any how great that
29:24
console was.
29:26
We kind of missed out the Super Nintendo
29:28
cuz the Super Nintendo is probably one
29:30
of the it's probably it's it's very up
29:32
there with the NES, but it's um I
29:35
[clears throat] never owned it as a kid.
29:38
Like it was what for some reason it's
29:40
one of those consoles where I just
29:42
skipped out. I actually only became like
29:44
aware of like and played the games like
29:47
emulating them as a teenager. like
29:49
Chrono Trigger, um Maximum Carnage, like
29:55
the
29:55
Final The Final Fantasy on the Super NES
29:58
was very good as well.
29:59
Oh, was it? Yeah. Zelda Link to the Link
30:02
to the Past. What a game. Honestly, what
30:05
a game. Um
30:06
it's a lot better than the NES game
30:09
if I'm being honest. That was quite
30:11
The original Zelda to me was it's a top
30:14
five game of all time for me because it
30:16
was so unique. Um, it would drive me
30:19
nuts because you you didn't know where
30:22
anything was and you didn't know there
30:24
were secret rooms you had to bomb. Like,
30:26
how would you even think to know that
30:28
until somebody would tell me who I was
30:29
going to school with, hey, if you do
30:30
this,
30:31
that's there. Like, it took me forever
30:33
to beat that game.
30:35
Did you ever see Have you ever seen the
30:36
videos of like the Nintendo call center
30:40
stuff with people ringing up about
30:42
Zelda? And the guy the guys are
30:44
geniuses, aren't they? Cuz they're like,
30:45
"Oh, yeah. If you go back to the
30:47
forbidden forest and you go through the
30:49
the door on the left and like you put a
30:52
bomb there, you're like, jeez louise.
30:55
Like how how are you supposed to know
30:58
that? Cuz the internet did not even
31:00
exist.
31:00
I know. I remember they used to try to
31:02
get like the game books and and I used
31:04
to try to find the game books when I'd
31:06
go to like a store because there's no
31:07
internet back then. You can't go on and
31:08
look and see, well, how do I do this
31:10
like the kids can do now. It was just
31:12
like either you knew somebody who did
31:14
it. the call center like you said which
31:17
if I did that my father would ring my
31:19
neck because it was like a 1 1900 number
31:20
or whatever it was it would cost a
31:22
fortune
31:23
but like we had so many struggles
31:25
because you'd get to a point in the game
31:28
and then you had nowhere else to go and
31:30
that's how I was with Zelda for a really
31:31
long time until I figured out some other
31:33
stuff that somebody probably told me I
31:35
don't even remember at this point.
31:36
Yeah. Yeah. And was you disappointed
31:39
with the second Zelda
31:41
Adventure of Link? I hated that game. I
31:43
thought it was such a far off.
31:46
It's completely far removed from the
31:48
original, isn't it?
31:49
Exactly. It's not even close to what it
31:51
was. I understand the route they went.
31:52
It was like a sidescrolling game instead
31:54
of the the the map thing. And I I just
31:56
thought it was terrible. I could never
31:58
get into it like I was the original.
32:00
So again, like Zeld the original Zelda
32:05
uh Zelda 2, Castlevania.
32:08
No, I just never saw them for sale like
32:12
you know like when I was at at car boot
32:14
sales and stuff. So I never got to play
32:16
them as a kid again when I emulated or
32:19
was able to play them.
32:20
Make sure you check out that video I did
32:22
at the top uh
32:23
I watched it. Yeah, I watched it. Yeah.
32:25
All right. It's it's out for for
32:27
members, but it's not out for everybody
32:28
else yet. Dude, the Castlevania is also
32:30
one of one of my absolute favorite
32:32
games. See, you see how we keep going
32:33
back to the NES and how
32:35
it seems inspirational. Yeah, what an
32:38
effect that system had on on everything
32:40
else.