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Wired To Hunt Podcast #188: Gabe Adair Talks Mature Bucks and Late Season Deer Hunting · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wire to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one, and
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  Speaker 1: today on the show, we're joined by white Tail Properties
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  Speaker 1: land specialist and renowned deer hunter Gabe A. Dare, and
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  Speaker 1: we're chatting with him about how he killed his biggest
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  Speaker 1: buck ever this year and his tactics for late season hunting.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought
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  Speaker 1: to you by sit Ki Gear, and today we've got
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  Speaker 1: a great show for you as we're gonna be joined
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  Speaker 1: here shortly by Gabe A. Dare. And Gabe is a
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  Speaker 1: land specialist for white Tail Properties and he's been he's
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  Speaker 1: been a long time member of that team. If you
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  Speaker 1: follow their TV show or just the white Tail Properties,
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  Speaker 1: you know, real estate and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you've likely seen his name around a lot. Because on
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  Speaker 1: top of all that, he's just one of the most
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  Speaker 1: consistent and renowned big buck killers out there in the country.
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  Speaker 1: So um coming up here shortly, we're gonna chat with
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  Speaker 1: him a bit about his two thousand seventeen seasons so far,
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  Speaker 1: how he killed his biggest buck to date, and spoiler alert,
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  Speaker 1: is a two hundred plus inch buck. It's like two
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  Speaker 1: hundred and a lot plus. So we're gonna dive into
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  Speaker 1: that and spent a lot of time talking about his
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  Speaker 1: tactics and philosophies for hunting the late season. So we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about what's coming up here in the coming weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But that's our agenda. But before we do that, I'm
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  Speaker 1: very pleased to say that we are back this week
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  Speaker 1: with our pregame show featuring my good buddy, the nine fingered,
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  Speaker 1: big bearded hammer dropping Dan Johnson. I'm good, but you
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  Speaker 1: set me up for failure every time you throw one
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  Speaker 1: of those intros out. It's like whenever whatever. People see
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  Speaker 1: a picture of me, they just look at me like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that guy looks like a huge pussy. He's big. All right.
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  Speaker 1: It's been too long since we got to chat together here,
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  Speaker 1: I know, man, Just crazy crazy schedules. Yeah, not slately,
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  Speaker 1: I apologize, And it's not really like just you've been
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  Speaker 1: doing on a crazy schedule and I've been on a
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  Speaker 1: crazy schedule. It's just this time of year. Man, it's crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a challenge to line everything up between us
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  Speaker 1: and guests and hunting and other things. And um man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about what I think I know, Um,
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  Speaker 1: but I've been on a little break from hunting just
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  Speaker 1: still today I've finally hunted for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: ten days. Um. But how about you? Have you been
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  Speaker 1: in the woods? I think I think you have been
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  Speaker 1: in the woods since we talked last? Yeah, man, um
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  Speaker 1: what was it last Sunday or the Sunday before last
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  Speaker 1: would have been Yeah, it would have been two sundays ago. Good. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know Ben Harshein from hunter maps Man, he's a
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  Speaker 1: good friend. He's a good friend of mine, and he
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  Speaker 1: invited me out to his uh farm and we've shared
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  Speaker 1: a tree together and we both had our bows with
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  Speaker 1: us and we're gonna try to double up on on
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  Speaker 1: some doze and he gave me the first shot, and
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  Speaker 1: long story short, I uh, I laid a dough down
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  Speaker 1: that night, and uh, it was just I tell you what,
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  Speaker 1: there's something about that scenario where you're sharing a tree
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  Speaker 1: with a friend and it's like all we did was laugh, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's literally all we did and just cut
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  Speaker 1: jokes and you know, finally we saw some deer, and
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  Speaker 1: these deer worked their way down and I ended up
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  Speaker 1: taking one of them, and he was at full draw
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  Speaker 1: at one of them, and and it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: behind the limb and he couldn't he couldn't make the
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  Speaker 1: shot because he didn't want to, you know, push the shot.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, it was just fun. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: something that you know, we it's a different kind of
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  Speaker 1: fun when you're not focused on, you know, chasing a buck,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just, I don't know, it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: re reinvigorates the soul. If that makes sense. Oh, it
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  Speaker 1: definitely does. But I love as much as I like
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  Speaker 1: chasing you know, big mature bucks. One of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: parts of the hunting season every year is either I
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  Speaker 1: filled my buck tags or I've kind of said, all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's just time to fill a freezer. Whenever I changed
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  Speaker 1: my goal from trying to kill a buck, too, it's
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  Speaker 1: time to kill a dough. Like those dough hunts are
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  Speaker 1: just so much fun. Um, because it's a target, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a target rich environment, you know, absolutely. And
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  Speaker 1: then to your point, I agree, when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: hunting with a buddy, Um, that's that's always love fun.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't got to do that this season, um, just
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  Speaker 1: because the craziness of what I've been up too lately.
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  Speaker 1: But man, I'm glad it went well. It's got a
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  Speaker 1: deer on the ground right now. It wouldn't be a
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  Speaker 1: podcast if I didn't talk about my kids for a second. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And I just have to tell this story because it
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  Speaker 1: made me laugh and kind of cry at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why it made me happy happy
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  Speaker 1: tears or sad tears, well, sad tears, but let me
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  Speaker 1: explain you'll you'll get it. So the other day and
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  Speaker 1: it was what was it? It was actually Tuesday because
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  Speaker 1: instead of recording our podcast at the regular time, I
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  Speaker 1: was outside playing with my daughter and I said, Ava,
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  Speaker 1: how was preschool today? And you know, just like a
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  Speaker 1: typical kid, she's oh, it was okay. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 1: did you learn? And she walks over to me and
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  Speaker 1: she punches me right in the balls and I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: what where did that come from? Where did that come from?
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  Speaker 1: Just straight up, straight punch right in the nords? And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, why did you do that? Well?
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  Speaker 1: Because I like preschool dad, and I'm just like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you learning at preschool? Uh? Did you have an explanation?
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  Speaker 1: No more? And kids that are that age don't have
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  Speaker 1: explanations for the actions that they do. So how do
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  Speaker 1: you how do you handle that? What's the what's the
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  Speaker 1: teaching moment? Post? Uh? Nut punch from your daughter? Right? Um? Baby?
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  Speaker 1: Like I wanted to throw her in time out, Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to banker, but I just grabbed her by
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  Speaker 1: her shoulder and I said, why did you do that?
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  Speaker 1: And she looked at me with these big beautiful eyes
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  Speaker 1: and she's like, I like preschool dad. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it was because we were kind of rough housing a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. You know, we were chasing each other in
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  Speaker 1: the yard and you know, tapping each other and and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was kind of funny. And
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  Speaker 1: then uh, later that night, my son drank an entire
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  Speaker 1: squeeze bottle of concentrate juice mix, this little squeeze bottle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh. He you shouldn't see him. Oh it
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  Speaker 1: looked like he had a melted popsicle all over his face.
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  Speaker 1: And then I didn't have to change the next diaper,
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  Speaker 1: but because he's still in diapers, but it was red.
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  Speaker 1: But so that's kind of what I've been doing now
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  Speaker 1: that the bow season is over for me. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I do when I tag out kids. But dude, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like you had a like a quick trip across
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  Speaker 1: North America this week. Yeah. Yeah, you know. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: since we last chatted, we well we have. You probably
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  Speaker 1: didn't hear our podcast I did with Further. Did I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you didn't because you got better things to do
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  Speaker 1: than listen to me talk a little bit of it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well we were giving you some crap, but um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so Further was on and I told him about my
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  Speaker 1: latest exploits with holy Field. Um. But long story short,
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  Speaker 1: since you and meat yad at last, I did have
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  Speaker 1: a handful more encounters with him. Um hunted up till
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  Speaker 1: opening day of guns season in Michigan, and then after that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, went up north for a few days, and
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  Speaker 1: then since the nineteenth of November, I've stopped hunting, and
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  Speaker 1: um just had to get back to spending some time
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  Speaker 1: with my wife and family and doing some things for
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  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving with my family and her family, and just you know,
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  Speaker 1: um take care of yeah, important real world responsibilities. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so did all that. But then yeah, just a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days ago, I flew out to Seattle, Washington, UM
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  Speaker 1: to do some stuff with Steve Ranella and those guys.
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  Speaker 1: UM did a podcast and we went squid jigging, which
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  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. Yeah. So so what does squid jigging entail? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so basically it entails UM going to appear in downtown
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  Speaker 1: Seattle and standing on the edge of that pier with
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  Speaker 1: a fishing rod and a jig on the end of it.
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  Speaker 1: Basically imagine like, um, it almost looks like a bomber
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  Speaker 1: like imagine like those plastic bobbers um, like the long
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  Speaker 1: the long bobbers um, but instead of that being a bomber,
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  Speaker 1: it's a weighted jig with a bunch of hooks all
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  Speaker 1: along the bottom of it. Like, um, have you ever
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  Speaker 1: seen those hummingbird feeders that are kind of like still
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  Speaker 1: that kind of like a tear drop shape, And then
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  Speaker 1: there's that tray on the bottom. Imagine that shape that's
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  Speaker 1: the shape of the lure. But instead of that on
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  Speaker 1: the bottom, those are all hooks stick sticking up and
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  Speaker 1: then you just drop your line over down the pier
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  Speaker 1: and you shine this huge light down into the water,
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  Speaker 1: which I guess attracts the squid and then you drop
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  Speaker 1: this jig down to the bottom and then you just
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  Speaker 1: dig it up and down, you know, bob it up
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  Speaker 1: and down and let's set and then up and down
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  Speaker 1: and the squid attack it and that is awesome. You
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  Speaker 1: bring it right on in. So, uh, there was there
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  Speaker 1: was well, there's four or five. I guess there was
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  Speaker 1: four of us for a period, and then a fifth
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  Speaker 1: joined and then Steve's son was there and we caught
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  Speaker 1: probably I don't know, maybe a hundred squid or somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in that ballpark. Um, so it's pretty cool. It was
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  Speaker 1: really cool. The Puget Sound up there is absolutely gorgeous country.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that Pacific Northwest areas super cool. I
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  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have very much time. I wish
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  Speaker 1: I could have spent some more time out there and
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  Speaker 1: enjoying the mountains and the the uh the ouned and
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  Speaker 1: all that. But it was it was nice to get
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  Speaker 1: a really quick little trip in there and brought home
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of squids. So calmar is on the menu.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta recipe. Uh, you know, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: picked out a recipe yet. I just was you know,
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  Speaker 1: they were telling me it could be pretty good grilled
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  Speaker 1: or just fried up, you know, calmary style. So I
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  Speaker 1: think we'll be we'll be trying a couple of different things.
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  Speaker 1: But I got I brought quite a lot home, so, um,
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  Speaker 1: we're just gonna try some different things and see how
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  Speaker 1: it goes. So yeah, man, that was It was a
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  Speaker 1: good quick trip. It was. It was there for I
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  Speaker 1: flew flew in there one day and flew home the
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  Speaker 1: next day. Um. And then I got back from that
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  Speaker 1: last night, and then this morning I drove up to
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  Speaker 1: or down to Ohio. Um, but I don't know, hunting
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  Speaker 1: here for three or four days, the last few days
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  Speaker 1: of their firearm season here. Oh cool. So tonight man,
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  Speaker 1: that did not. Um, I didn't get much of a
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  Speaker 1: hunt in though. Uh. I got a late start, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of late stuff, maybe a half hour late
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  Speaker 1: start this morning. And then um our our podcast guest
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  Speaker 1: that I recorded that interview earlier today that kind of
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  Speaker 1: had some timing issues of that, so I gotta later
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  Speaker 1: start on that and was hoping. So I arrived at
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  Speaker 1: the property like a half hour to four or five
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  Speaker 1: minutes later than I wanted to, And then I was
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  Speaker 1: getting ready and I was all set out, ready to
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  Speaker 1: head out, and then the landowner showed up. Um So
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  Speaker 1: I stopped to chit chat with the landowner for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of minutes, and that one a little longer than
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  Speaker 1: I was hoping, so already I'm like, oh jeez, I
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  Speaker 1: am not gonna get much time, or nearly as much
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  Speaker 1: time as I wanted. And then we say goodbye, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to walk, you know, out of the gate
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  Speaker 1: and into the corn field, and then I hear the
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  Speaker 1: landowners start like kind of hollering, like something something bad
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  Speaker 1: has happened, and I'm like, I could just keep walking
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  Speaker 1: and going and go on, but but no, I had to.
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  Speaker 1: I had to turn around and see what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: So I went back back and uh, long story short,
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  Speaker 1: he had locked his keys in his vehicle. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: and this is an older gentleman, um, so I just
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  Speaker 1: knew he was gonna need some help. UM. So ended
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  Speaker 1: up calling and finding uh tow truck company in the
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  Speaker 1: area that could come and um and get the keys out.
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  Speaker 1: And I called around different people that might be able
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  Speaker 1: to help us find some spare keys around the house,
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  Speaker 1: but no one knew everyone was and he didn't know
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  Speaker 1: and so he ended up calling a tow truck company
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  Speaker 1: and then waited with him for like forty five minutes
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  Speaker 1: until they got there to help him out. Um. So,
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  Speaker 1: so the result of that was that instead of having
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  Speaker 1: like a three hour hunt or four hour hunt that
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have, instead I had By
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  Speaker 1: a time all this was done, I had like forty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes still dark. So I just snuck out to
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  Speaker 1: the edge of the corn field and sat in the
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  Speaker 1: ground in some brush just to see if I could
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  Speaker 1: see anything. And uh, I did not see anything. So disappointing. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: this a pointing night, But that was all right. Had
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  Speaker 1: to you know, had to help out. I certainly appreciate
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  Speaker 1: this landowner allowing me to hunt there. So at least
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  Speaker 1: I could do was help out someone that needed a hand,
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  Speaker 1: and um, hopefully better things will come the next three days.
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  Speaker 1: Did you at least check trail cameras? Why are you're
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  Speaker 1: out there? Well, I was planning on it, but because
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  Speaker 1: of the fact I wasn't able to get into the
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  Speaker 1: core of the property like I planned on. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: just was able to pull one camera that was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: easily accessible. So I got one card out and there's
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  Speaker 1: three more cards that I'm gonna be able to check tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: So here's a question what happened to that property, because
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  Speaker 1: because what was it, I don't know. Last year may
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  Speaker 1: not have been as good, but the previous years there
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  Speaker 1: was just it was loaded with giants. Yeah, man, it
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  Speaker 1: has been going downhill. Um. If I had to put
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  Speaker 1: a finger on it, my best guess is that it's
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  Speaker 1: been increased pressure. Um. I think one thing for sure
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  Speaker 1: is that one of our neighbors. The first three years,
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  Speaker 1: nobody hunted that property. Nobody was allowed to hunt it,
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  Speaker 1: and now this year and last year it got leased.
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  Speaker 1: So there are people hunting our neighbor now that I
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  Speaker 1: think in the past that serves the sanctuary, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of deer in and around that area that
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  Speaker 1: that were coming on to our farm and we were
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  Speaker 1: taking advantage of that. Now that's not happening. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: then also I saw maybe there's more pressure on the
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  Speaker 1: other side because today when I was getting ready, I
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  Speaker 1: saw two hunters heading into the other neighbor and I've
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  Speaker 1: never seen hunters there ever before either. Um, So if
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  Speaker 1: I had guessed that's what I would say. I just
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  Speaker 1: think there's more people hunting around, pushing it on all
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  Speaker 1: the sides of it. Um, we're just not getting the
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  Speaker 1: bucks like we were getting on camera in the past.
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  Speaker 1: We're not. It never was a property that I saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of deer. It was always pretty low deer numbers.
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  Speaker 1: But you knew that there. You know, if you put
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  Speaker 1: in enough time and hunting it smart, if you the
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  Speaker 1: few deer you saw, a really good buck could be
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  Speaker 1: in that group. Um. Now, you know, Josh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we we've seen one nice buck. You know, I passed.
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  Speaker 1: I passed on him twice and then Josh killed him. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so that was awesome. But hopefully there's at least one
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  Speaker 1: more that that will show up. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. There's you know, there's a chance. There's
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  Speaker 1: last time when I was down here, you know that
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  Speaker 1: trip when Josh killed his That was like November nine
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  Speaker 1: or ten that he killed he he killed his buck
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  Speaker 1: the day after you and me record that podcast together. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So when we checked cameras on that trip, there's this
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  Speaker 1: one buck that um there's one like homebody buck that
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  Speaker 1: has been showing up in daylight, and and the one
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  Speaker 1: like mature buck that's been consistently on camera. And when
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  Speaker 1: I say consistent, it's not like he's there every day,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, a couple of times a week or
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  Speaker 1: something in some daylight. Um, and he's a he's a
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  Speaker 1: really nice buck him. He's probably a definitely a five
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  Speaker 1: year old, big body, big framed, probably fifty something, uh
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  Speaker 1: nine pointer. I think he is. Maybe no, maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: a ten point um but really cool dear that we've
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  Speaker 1: had on the property for two years now. Um, So
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  Speaker 1: my hopes I'm kind of banking on and hoping that
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  Speaker 1: he is, that he's still around, and if he is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe we'll get a crack at him over
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  Speaker 1: this next month. So I'm a hunt him here these
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  Speaker 1: next few days during gun season and then go home
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  Speaker 1: and focus on holy Field with a big coal fronts
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  Speaker 1: coming through, and then, um, you know, as my schedule dictates,
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  Speaker 1: try to get back out here again if if I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: can't get it done on this trip. So, man, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the latest holy Field showing up on camera in
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  Speaker 1: the past couple of days. No, but I haven't checked anything.
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  Speaker 1: My cell cameras don't work. None of my cell cameras
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  Speaker 1: work anymore. It's a very frustrated situation. Um So I
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  Speaker 1: have to cell cameras that are just sitting out there
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  Speaker 1: not doing anything for me. Um So yeah, So last
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  Speaker 1: time I checked cameras in person was like November twenty
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. Um So, I haven't been out
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: in like ten days. So when I get home from Ohio,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'll be checking those out and hopefully we'll get an
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: answer on Holy Field. Um The one piece of good
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: news I do have is that I did do a
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: drive by actually this morning just before I left for Ohio,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and I saw the really nice three year old that
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I've been wanting to survive this year to make it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to next year. That Buck I'm calling Survivor. So he
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: is alive and well as of this morning. And today's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the last day gun season in Michigan, so if he
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: made it through tonight, he made it through the worst
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: of it awesome. So it would be really nice to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: know there's a four year old that hopefully can make
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it to next year, or that there could potentially be
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: a four year old for next year. So fingers crossed.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's yeah. I don't know what my my
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: late season plan is gonna be. I think there, I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be able to get out a handful
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of times. Um, I don't have any trail cameras out,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: so it's just gonna be, you know, because I've had
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a problem with theft lately out on on the main farm,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: but um, you know, and also on my buddies farm.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But these pictures were during the rut. There are some
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: good bucks running around there. Nobody hunts his little piece,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so hopefully it turns into a sanctuary during gun season. Um.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And then the neighbor across the creek he has standing
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: food plots and then doesn't hunt the late season. So
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: hopefully on my buddies farm, I might be able to
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: run into something. And then on my main farm, if
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I do go down and hunt, it's just gonna be
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a wing it. You know. Hopefully there's some snow I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: can find some tracks or something to to set up on.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But you know, late season is late season. It can
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: be a real struggle, or it can be awesome if
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you find the food to to something you mentioned there.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I sure hope we get some snow and some good
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: late season weather because because right now, at least it's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: not really it's not really promising. It's been like forties
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and fifties and not what you wants. So right, absolutely,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But next next week Wednesday, we've got like a big
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: twenty gree temperature drop in Michigan, so hoping to take
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: advantage of that. I don't think it rained, but one
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: time the entire month of November here in Iowa, so
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty dry out there right now with
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the exact opposite of that where I was, I felt
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: like every single day I was hunting, it was raining.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It's brutal, But is uh is North Dakota scratch? Then?
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: For this it's looking like it. Um. The only way
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that could change is if, like if I kill holy
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Field next week, Um, then there's still a small chance
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I could try to mount a late season trip to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: North Dakota. But it's it's increasingly looking like that's a scratch,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: which is which is disappointing. But um, you know, I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: put all my eggs in the basket of holy Field
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's just limited things and uh
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that's the risky take when you hunt one deer man.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And um, we'll see if it's uh
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: if I can make it all worth it, or or
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: if not. I certainly learned something. It's right so well,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I think uh, I think this is a good spot
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to to wrap things up. UM. Let's plan on talking
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: again next week, Mr Johnson and UM awesome updates from
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: my hunts and UM maybe we should go get Gabe
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: there on here with us. But first let's take a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: quick second to thank our partners at sit Good Gear
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: for this week's Sit Good Story. We're joined by Jake Terry,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: who tells us about a Nebraska public land hunt where
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: his turkey was well earned. UH. So this spring I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: headed to Nebraska, UH to go out to western Nebraska
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to hunt some public land. UM kind of running gun
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: style hunting. UM. I got there and it isn't near
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: as easy as I thought I had to. You know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I was walking up to five miles a day trying
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to find birds. UM. On the fourth day and was
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: going to be one of the final days of my hunt,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: had a rainy morning, but had finally found some birds
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: at night before. UM. I had just set a couple
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of hours in the rain, but once the rain cleared,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: UM was able to call in a couple of long
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: beards UM from the ground. No blind UM with archery equipment.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: UM shot a bird at twenty five yards. UM ended
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: up being a really nice bird and kind of the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: into a um A long drawn out hunt. Uh that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I think I probably lost ten pounds that week or
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: go in those four days because I walked so many
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: miles but great hunts. On Jake's hunt, he was wearing
• 22:46
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• 22:57
  Speaker 1: right with us on the line now, is Gabe a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Dare welcome the show? Gabe? Yeah, I appreciate you have me. Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on the show for a
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: long time. We've chatted with a number of other guys
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: from the White Tail Properties team, UM good Buddies Alex Gilstrom,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and a a number of other folks within the organization, but
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I've just always wanted to get to pick your brain
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: because you just seem to be one of the most
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: consistent serious big buck killers UM in the whole crew.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So so I'm glad we can finally do this. Gabe,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and I guess to to kind of get things started,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I briefly introduced you before we jumped on here. But
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you've been a long time, a long time member of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the White Tailed Properties team, both from the real estate
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: side and the TV show side. Um, but can you
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit from your own perspective about
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: what it is you do and what this experience has
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: been like for you. Um. Yeah, So I've got I'm
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a sales agent for him. UM. Simple that I work
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in south central Iowa. I'm the last so grown up there,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: which I think he goes hand in hand with the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: real estate and hunting. You know, I grew up in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: this type of hunting environment my whole life. Um. So
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: when it turned into more of a business, you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: it's already something I've lived so um, very fortunate for that. Um.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: But I've got, like I said, Um, i share a
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: territory with Derrek grimsdrewd We work south central Iowa. Um.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: You know. And and it's about it. They know them
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: since day one, kind of helped them build it up,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: knew about it when it was the idea on a napkin,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: so to speak. Well, it's gonna be kind of amazing
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: for you to see what it has become now. Isn't it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I mean it's from going to Napkin Stage to uh,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you know, such a leader in the space now. Yeah, No,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's grown really fast. We've got tons of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you know, really good guys on the team. Um, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's balanced. You know, we've got the right
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: owners and the right people in the right places. Um.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: You know, we're not all exactly the same. And it
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: seems like, you know, some guy's strengths, you know, pick
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: up for other guys weaknesses, so to speak. And so
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's just a great balance. Got a really
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: smart business crew. Um. Yeah, it's blown up and it
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: went really fast. And when I got in real estated
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised by you know, I've been self
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: employing my whole life. I got out of high school
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and started a construction business and did that and kind
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of started guiding and you know through my twenties and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you know, love the outdoors, and you know, it kind
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of worked out because I had a bunch of guys
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: working for me and I could leave in the fall,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in the winter and kind of do what I love
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: to do is a side job, so to speak. And
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: then and then the whole you know, the whole real
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: estate ball started rolling, and I went and got my
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: license before we were even a company, and kind of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: got my feet wet, so to speak. Um, you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I did a little bit of work, kind of getting
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: getting my toe into the water and uh, and just
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: took on, you know, and it really quickly. I knew that,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you know, with the team we had and what we
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: were doing was you know, I knew this guy was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: a limit. Yeah. Now as I understand it, I don't
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: know the details of it, but I believe you own
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: some you do own some deer hunting ground of your own,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and we get a lot of questions about how to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: get started with that, you know, how can I get
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: my first property, especially for guys that maybe don't have
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a ton of expendable income but they want to start somewhere.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to spend your whole time talking about this,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: but do you have any quick tips off the get
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: go for people that want to explore that options someday
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to become a property owner. Yeah, it's it's like anything,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the big ones, just that down pain that
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that first year, you know, so you've got to be
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: able to you know, save ups in cash. You gotta
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: get yourself in the position. But you at the same
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: time start small. You know, start out with something. You know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: um improve it, you know, document it, do all the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: little necessity so to speak, to make it a better
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: hunting farm. And you know, and for the multipart rights.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I'm from land, you know, appreciates pretty well. I mean
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: there's some spots in the road where she went flat line.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But you know, if you get into one, do some work, UM,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: give it a few years, it's gonna appreciate, roll that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: thing into a little bit bigger, and so on and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: so forth. I've got a lot of clients that started
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: out with twenties and forties and you know, four or
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: five six huntred contracts now. So it's doable. You know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of guys that got average jobs
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and don't have millions in the banks, so to speak.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: But it's like anything, if you really want to do it,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: if you're passionate about it, you know, you work hard
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: at it and it'll come around. Yeah. That's that's the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: truth that, like you said, just about anything in life,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: so put your mind is something you can make it happen.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So speaking to speaking of making things happen. Um, from
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: what I've seen from the outside, it looks like you've
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: had a really good two thousand and seventeen season. I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: think I saw If I'm wrong, but I think I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: saw that you killed your biggest buck to date. Is
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that true? Yeah? I got lucky this year. Man. It
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: was a good one. Um, it was. It was a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: big non tiftical that we passed last year as a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: four year old, and it just all lined up. And
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it's a long story. Yeah, I mean, I'm more nappy
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: to talk about it, but it lined up and and uh,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we dug in on and real hard. Once
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: we got him in the area of the farm we
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: wanted him and we expected him to get into and
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: we just borrowed in like a tick and and got
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: him killed. It took about a week, you know, from
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: from what we really got after him to killing it
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: took about a week. And we we played the edges
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and we were smart, but you know, we dug into
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that farm. I didn't go anywhere else. I had zero
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: interest and hunting. We're looking at anything other than him.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: We dug in and it all worked out in together,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you know, just uh, an awesome hound gotta got a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: good pre role, come out fed the food plot bumps
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: some does you know past you know, a couple of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: forty five yard shots which I had no intention to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: take in and ended up at thirty And we got
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a good hit on him and he didn't get out
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: of food plots. So it was awesome. That is awesome. Now,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I like long stories, So can
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you give us the full detailed kind of saga of
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: this buck how it went from passing him last year
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to your plan coming into this year, and how it
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: all kind of worked out in detail? Yeah? No, absolutely.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Um So last year he showed up on the farm
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: late November. Um, couldn't I've gotten in my later years
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the last few years, I'm not as good about keeping
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: some of the pictures I probably should. I deal with
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: such a high volume, and then I'm starting to I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: don't know, don't I call a snob, but I'm getting
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to wors sometimes I'll maybe not save some of the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: stuff that I should. Well, anyways, last year we went
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: back here. You know, when he showed up, I started digging.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I couldn't place him. Um, I knew he wasn't a
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: five year old You know, it was one of those
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: year I was he was a four year old UM
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and he showed up I'm gonna say November eighteen twentieth
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: right there when we started getting pictures of him, immediately
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: decided to pass the news on the farm. He spent
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year there. You know, he was
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: there all fall, all winter after that. UM never did
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: find his sheds. And I'm not a big shed guy,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't spend a lot of time. I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: got other stuff like doing the spring was going. Never
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: got his shed, but he was in there all when
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: we knew that. So and in that in that part
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of the farm has got some really good betting and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it's kind of going to that deer do gravitate. So
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: this year, you know, he was on the radar, so
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you know, but I was worried he was gonna show
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: up later November like last year. Last year, he had
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: UM a nice standpoint frame, good mask, good time length,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and he had to he had a G two and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: G three on his uh right side that we're deep
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: four like deep porch is in common base. I mean
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: they were big deep for you know. So he had
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of a couple of really big split times
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: there and uh, you know, we got this thing could
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: really be something cool next year. Well, this year rolls
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: around saying, get we didn't get any pictures of them.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect to. You know, you hope too, but
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: we're not expecting to. Um. We finally laid eyeballs on him,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you know, doing a lot of glass, and we finally
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: got eyeballs on him. And then once we've seen him,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to say, I was around November one.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: He was really close. And so now my wheels returned,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I wonder if last year, maybe you know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: he was in here earlier, and I you know, realized, well,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: sure enough, we got the right wind to check a
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: couple of cameras on the third and he had already
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: been in there. And so immediately, you know, once we
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: got the new pictures, you know, we've already seen him,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: so we knew what he had done, not with detail,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: but we do he was bid. When I was figuring
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: he was a two hundred innch animal, um, you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: right in And so once we started getting pictures of him,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: it was a lot easier to really start critiquing and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: digging and looking, and we knew he was really good.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Um didn't realize that he was as good as what
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: he actually is, but we knew he was two hundred
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: plus and and so we got after it. Um the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: first the first night, the night we pulled the cameras
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and got pictures of and then next morning my first move, Um,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we went and jumped in the set that was on
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the edge of betting. Wasn't in the thick betting, but
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: it was on the edge. We had the right wind,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: it was easy to get into. Hadn't been in that
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: stand all year. I got him be twoint of five years.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So my first move was like you know, moved upon
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: up one step and foom, he was the first year
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: we've seen that morning. Um, he come up the crick
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: bottom really fixed uff and he got to a point
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: where nada scrape. And I thought, Okay, if he keeps
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: coming up as crick he's gonna be right in the
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: power out you know, anywhere from a twenty to forty
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: yards shot. If he he turns to his right, it's
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: not gonna be good. Hey, he's gonna be I mean
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: exactly dead down wind of us and you know, fifty
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: yards once he makes that direction and two. There's just
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: no shooting lens there. It's all hedge and nasty and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it's just thick. And so sure enough, he goes the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: wrong way. And I'm a big ozonics guy, um you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: we've ran him for years. I swear by him. Um. Well, anyway,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: he gets to directly down wind at thirty forty yards
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and he does what most of all do your do
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: when you're using them correct lazy stops kind of looks
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: over in our direction and you can see that, you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: like always they know something there. He's kind of looking around,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: trying to feel things out. And as you know, I
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: thought that here's our moment of truth. Ensure enough, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: a couple of seconds of sitting there look in our direction,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: he flickers his tail, starts walking, goes right on through them,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: like perfect, Okay. When that happens to yeah, at that point,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we just dodged the bullet. We're good.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: You know. Now out I needed to make a move,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you know, somewhere to get a shot. So he comes
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: down this trail. I knew at one point if he
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: pops out of this trail to kind of heeps it
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: out of the brush and go up into the field.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I knew right when he hit that other that other trail,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that was gonna be my shot twenty five yards. And
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: so I'm at full draw along before he gets there,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm tippy toning up and down out and rubbing
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the tree. And later on looking at the camera, it's
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: kind of funny because I was all over trying to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: just find a hole and there and there wasn't so
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and so I I let him go. I didn't even
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I wasn't about to force it. You know, this animal,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I I knew once he got in here, his days
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: we're probably numbered with me. Um. So I wasn't gonna
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: push it. I wasn't gonna take a chance. Um. You know.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to get in with a boat, of course,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna push it. So we let him
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: walk and uh, and he went right up into the main, Betty,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and he was headed in the same direction of all
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the food sources and food plucks. And I thought I
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: killed him on that food pluck. Tonight, I know I can,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but the wind was dead wrong. When I say dead wrong,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like dead wrong, and then we can't get in, you know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And that's what worried me. Is you know, once I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: get into a blinder stand, I'll push the limits anymore
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: because of our seeing control. And it was Onyx and
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I really will. I'm pretty pretty ballsy when it comes
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to making a push on a big deer. But we
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: couldn't get in. I mean, there's just no way to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: even get there, you know. I mean so which I've
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: walked to those NICs in my head before, but I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna thirty. He wasn't gonna push this too early.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So the next day we slipped in there wind turns around,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: we slipped into that food and plot pull the camera
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: twenty yards in front of blind it like four or fifty,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I mean tons of daylight left. There's just point right
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: front in front of the ground life. So you know
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: now now you know, I know he's in my wheelhouse
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and I'm worried. You know, he he didn't have a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: dough at this point. I'm worried. You know, man, he's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: gonna get dough here and it's getting you know, it's right,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: he's moving a lot to find one. Well that next morning, um,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: we didn't hunt, you know, I didn't want it that
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: we'll closh it the window isn't right, and I'm big
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: on that. I'll I'll take my shots. I'll be patient,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and I don't really go to glass something then to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: go for some a move. And so you know, we
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that next morning we did a little drive around shure
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: En else he's with a doll, um you know, so
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: we uh, we basically held off. You know, at that point,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna get a little cover because
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: he'd gotten with a doll and so you know, we
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: browed into the food. I thought, you know, at this point,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I hope she dragged into the food or he breaks
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: loose and uh, you know, they end up on this
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: food source. So we literally dug in, and I mean
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: dug in. We were leaving all of our equipment, all
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: of our bows are you going? We took out with
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: batteries and and so we we were able to get
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: in and out of this food source. Um literally with
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: deer in the field getting in during the field getting out, um,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you know, multiple days in a row about ever getting
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: any sort of you know, busted. How do you how
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: do you think you're able to do that? Which is
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: just because you had planned out great access and entry
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: routes already or were you doing something different now that
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that was pretty content. I mean when I get these
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: big year, I started making plans for next year this,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: you know, and so and so we were lucky enough
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to have corn on the farm, and you with corn,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you know these ground blinds. I mean we can just
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: walk down rows. I'll even going with machette and we'll
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: just trim back maybe one road to give us extra room.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: And and you can get right up in the back
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: of them blinds, you know. And it's funny because I
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: knew cameraman this year, and I don't think he'd ever
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: experienced I like, but you know, we can get in,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: we can get out, you know, you wait till good
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and the dark. There can be thirty deer in the field,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and you know some of them are only twenty arts.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, we can't get out. And it's kind of
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: funny if you get away from the blind you start
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: walking down the trail and you almost start laughing because
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know they don't have the flue. You know, it's
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: just because so so I've gotten really good at that.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: That's a big part of the strategy. I I uh,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I'm huge on in and out, you know, I feel
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like if a lot of these big beer, if you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: can consistently sit on them and not booger it up,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: they're good. And you know they're not gonna be there
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: every time, but if you can consistently get in and
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: get out, they're gonna eventually be there. And that's you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that was the case with this. And I knew he
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: would come to this food source. So we hunted a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: couple of evenings in a row and no side of him,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: no pictures of him, but we were scouting in the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: morning and and you know, and laying eyeballs on it,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: so I knew he was around. Um, he was just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: with this dough. Well, the night before we killed him,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: we should have been November nine, we were sitting on
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that food and sure enough, famous every night the herd
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: comes to us. Everything's coming out to be little bucks
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: are bumping and chase and you know, we even't had
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: a really good solid ten pointer in the field. Um,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and sure enough he goes out the back door and
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I can see him with his dough going across just
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: a grass hayfield, and he takes her the whole completely
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: different direction. And then and so the next morning I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: thought to myself, we gotta go there and I gotta
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: check this out. We went over and pulled the camera
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't in the food food clock at night,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you know, so we hadn't hadn't been in there since
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: he hooked up to this dough. And we went over,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of where he where we've seen him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, I could probably get on
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: this edge and hang a set real quick and wins right,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and you know, we could roll the dice and I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and I thought about and I thought about it, and
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I like to gamble. I'm gonna come a gambler,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and you know, and so when I played black jack,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: if I hit off fifteen, I hit every every one
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: of them all my long. I don't get it. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: so and so I literally told myself, I thought that
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, stay on the food, don't chase.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna be to the food. Just stick there.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: This is you know, if this is the same dough,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be breaking loose anytime. So we didn't, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: it could have went hung and we didn't. Thank god
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: we didn't, because that night we went right back in
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: there and got in the blind and sure enough he
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: popped out at you know, twenty five. Um had a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: dog just kind of bumping around on me. He was
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: with her. I think he broke loose from the other one.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And this is a different here worked his way out
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: into the plot, you know, good good light left Um
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: fed a little bit, actually fed hard, you can tell you.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And you know he's been out running for a few days,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: fed hard, and then ended up actually bumping a dog
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: kind of down the fence line and out of sight.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh no, you know, he's got it all ready.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the warrior this time of the year.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: You know, when you start getting into you know, that
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: part of the rut. It doesn't take these big deer
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: very long to get to get back with the dough.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: And I thought, he's gonna push her off down on
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: these fence lines and he's on. Sure enough, he got lucky,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: he'd come back. Um, you know at this point, and
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I had a couple of forty five yards shots. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: told him I'm not gonna you know, I wanted forty
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: yards are and I'm not gonna push this deer. It's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I just felt too too good. I felt like we're
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: going to get him killed, and we got lucky and
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: he he got two close, he got the thirties, you
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: know at that point obviously you know, put a good
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: hit on him. He barely got out of the food plot,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: didn't even get over the fence back into the cover
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: and fell that on camera. So that's that's the long
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: of it. That's awesome. It's it's a it's a great
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: it's a great example of of playing it smarter on
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: deer like that, taking advantage of the data points that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you were able to collect, and then you know, taking
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: your shots at the right time. We talked about that
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: so much and this is just a perfect illustration of that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: So how what did he end up scoring game and change? Wow? Yeah,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: so he grew up. I mean I remember in the
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: in the garage, my buddies were taking him and and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I remember once they got done with the tape and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: one of you know, my buddy Scott, was adding him
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: up and I looked at because I was hoping he's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the nineties, you know, before we started
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: adding that fractions. I'm like, please tell me mid nineties,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: low nineties, you know, And and Scott looked at him.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He goes on the two four teams. Still at that
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: point I knew I was in really good. He was
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: way bigger, you know, it just just to tremendus. He
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: put fifty inches on, you know, and you never know
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: what you're going. I knew this year, you know, from
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: looking at him had the juice. I mean, it was
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: obvious that he had what it would take to blow up.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: But um, you know, he just he put a ton
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: of inches on drop time, split stickers, all the faces. Um.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Frame wise, he wasn't a framing year. He's a hundred
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and seventy five inch main frame ten or a seventeen
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: inch spread twenty four inch beams. But he had fifty
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: inches trash, you know. So he started adding up seven
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: eight nine inch splits and eight inch drop times with
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: kickers off those and triple brows on one side and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: little stickers on his brind and he just he just
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: kept adding. Know so, well, was there anything that you
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: took away from this experience, any lesson learned or was
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: there something that was just you know, driven home again
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: for you? Um? I don't know what was your takeaway
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: from this whole deal? You know, I don't know, I've
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: kind of it. I mean I've been, you know, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: was there again. I'm fortunate to grow up, you know.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I mean where I hunt is where my my dad's
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: father homestead, you know. I mean it's it's ground that
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I've grown up my whole life hunt. And I watched
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: these deer and I don't know, I feel like when
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I get my eyeballs on them, you know, and I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: know and they're in the wrong spot, which is on me.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I just anymore. I I you know, I feel like
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I've got the tools and knowledge and I can lay
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: things out, says something up, and I can be patient.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: That's another you know. And I'm fortunate. I'm blessed to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: have a situation where I don't you know, rather than
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: go and chase another beer around or all, I gotta
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: be in a stand night because I got a week
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to hunt, I don't go, you know, I'll go blasts,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I'll try to get some work done over the day
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll take our shot. So I'll be real patient
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and all push real hard too. You know. It's just
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I guess it's it's everything you know, you've got. Every
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: deer is different. Um, you know, like a couple of
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: years ago, I chased around a big one that he
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: was kind of a unique buck because every time we
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: hunt him, we've seen him, you know, and and and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that's not very common. You know. You get these five
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and six year old deer that you're hunting. You know,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: some of them you're lucky to see him once and
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: that's when you kill him. And others, you know, like
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: like this year, you see him here and there, and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and finally catch up to him, and then
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: there's deer or you know, like the the unicorn bucks
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: a couple years ago. I mean, I bet we filmed
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: in fifteen huns. You know. He was always an eight
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: or a hundred, you know, it just but it was cool.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It was cool because we were on it and he
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: had no idea and and that's and that's probably what
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I'll take away from it, I guess. And you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the more I talked things about it is these big deer,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: they don't know you're on their tail, and you can
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: consistently stay on them. It's a matter of time. And
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that's what I try to do. You know, I'm really
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: really big about sending control of my boots. I'm big
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: on I was onyx Um. We've used him for years.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm in the huge on setups and scenarios
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: of getting in and getting out, you know, And I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: think that's the big one. When you can consistently take
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: shots at them and not bogger it, you know eventually
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: you're going to connect, you know, when you when you
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: take that shot, like you know, when I was younger,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I might take that shot and dig in there really
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: hard to get aggressive and blow something up, you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you know, it sets your back so far that you know,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's hard to recover sometimes from. But you can
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: get in and out. You know, when you're on them
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and you know what they're doing, you know you're gonna
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: connect it sooner or later. Yeah. Other than the other
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: than the setup like you had on this food plot
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you were talking about where you've got the standing corn
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: trimmed out that you can come in and out of.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Do you have any other tricks or things that you've
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: done the past to just help with that in and out? Um?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Because this is something that so many people struggle with
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and it's so important though, Um, anything else you know
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: that you during that on that on that front everything
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, And it's funny because I drive around my
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: neighborhood now. And you know it's funny how you know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: it's just knowledge kind of grows, and you know, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: people learn and find out and it everything from planting
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: grasses to stacking hay bals too, you know. I mean,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I've even put camo netting on the bottoms of line
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: so we're getting down they can't see us getting, you know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: down the ladders, and and so yeah, I use all
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: kinds of things, hay beals or but I love using
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: hay bells, you know, if I last minute kind of deal,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'll go stack some hay bells up
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: in front of the blind just so that I know
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I can get out of there and not you know,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: because that's really all it is. I mean, it's you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: for the most part, these scenarios, and we set up
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you know, if you can get down and twenty or
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: thirty yards down the trail, you're you're done, You're gone,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you know. And so that's that's the big one, just
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: setting stuff up to where you can get out. And
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: it usually doesn't take much, you know, I mean, if
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you can block visibility like a good good and dark,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and some of these spots we put food
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: so close to bedding that you can go get in
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: at noon and there's gonna be eight or ten deer
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: on the feeling. And it's just it's just how it is.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Just you're just you're in the right you know. That's
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: when you know you're in the right spot. When when
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you're going in and hunting stuff that you know at
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: neon one two o'clock afternoon and there's already de in there,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you know you're doing something right. And that's where even
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: getting in you gotta have you gotta have a visual
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: barrier to be able to slip in and slip out,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and you know, and that's you know, on this dear
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: was everything. Yeah, Yeah, for sure, I've I've definitely experienced
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: on the same things. And I've got a five and
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a half year old buck that I've been hunting here
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: in Michigan, and it's been similar to that unicorn buck
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: where I'm seeing him almost every time and going after him.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You know, this this first couple of the first couple
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: of weeks in November, when I was hunting him hard,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I was seeing him all the time, but you know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: just out of range, that kind of deal. But I
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: attributed much of that continued. You know, the fact I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was still, you know, seeing him. I attributed a lot
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to that, to the fact that I was able to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: get in and out carefully without buggering it up. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: think that's it's just so important. Um. So before we
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: move on, let's take a quick second to thank our
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: partners at white Tail Properties. This week with white Tail Properties,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: we were joined by Tom James, a land specialist out
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: of Central Indiana, and Tom is going to be telling
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: us about what the first habitat improvements should be for
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a land manager. Good question, um. Some of the first
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: key things the fundamentals if you want to think about,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: is when you think in terms of what a deer requires,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the food, security, covering, water and the q d m
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: A has a great analogy of the thinking about the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: lowest hole on the bucket that you need to plug
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: up to keep the water from leaking out. So what
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: could be missing on your property that the surrounding land
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: may have, and so you want to do a quick assessment.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's food, maybe it's water. Maybe if you can
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: maybe it's cover. If you can look through your woods
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and see two hundred yards, then you've got an issue
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: with with too much shade, not enough sunlight, creating new
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: potential brows and cover for your deer. So maybe it's
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: a timber a timber either stand improvement or a harvest
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: or a combination of two that's gonna allow some more
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: new growth to come in and picking up your property.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's as simple as you're not leaving an area
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: alone as a sanctuary. If you're trapesing all over forty
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: acres and pushing deer off every time you go, then
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's obviously an issue. So maybe just an adjustment
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: in the way that you move around and hunt the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: property and approach things. Uh. If food is your lacking
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: ingredient or your lowest hole in the bucket, then even
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in timber, it takes some work, but you can certainly
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: clear out some openings and plant food. Um and I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: would suggest considering both perennial food and annual food stuff
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that you can leave in like clover and chicory as
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: a perennial coming back every year and do some fall
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: planted cereal grains and brassicas for the fall time, so
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you've got a year round program going on. And typically
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: it's not an issue in the Midwest. But if if
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: water is a lacking ingredient, then maybe you can create
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a water hole or even some of the new systems
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: like the banks water watering tanks that you can set
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: up that are mobile and fill up and provide water
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: sources for your deer so that they don't have to
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: leave the property to water. Again, it's fairly rare, but
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: that could be a consideration. If you'd like to learn
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Tom currently has
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com. Backslash James,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: that's j A. M. E. S So. So I want
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to transition a little bit now because we've been talking
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: about your success there in early November. People have been,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to November all year and now
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's came and gone in a flash. It's always
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: shocking to me how fast it gets here and then
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: it's done. Um, So now we're staring December in the face.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: From your perspective, is the best behind us? Or do
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: you like the late season? Do we have some good
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: things still ahead for us here? Yeah? I love late
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: season anymore. I don't like November. I mean, I know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I killed my two biggest year been killed, you know,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: in November. My my two archery two hundreds of both
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: November ten and twelve. Um, but you had when when
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I killed them off the wall, boy, it real quickly
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: goes to late October, late late November and later. You know. Um,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I struggled a lot in November, and so you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I started getting into that tent and twelve and I
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: haven't got anyting killed. I almost start, you know, looking
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: towards the twenty one and on, because I just we
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: really struggle, you know with these bigger gear once they
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: start locking down with those, And so yeah, I love
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: late season. I'm a you know, I don't farm actively
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: right now, but I've grown up farming, you know, and
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: so we've got equipment, We're fortunately got a lot of food,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and so I love late season. Um, you know, I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: would rather give dear a place to live and hunt
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: them on the edges and hunt him on food. That's
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you know probably you know what you know, you you
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: put that together with interns and exit, and I think
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: he got it picked at that point, you know, I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: think he gotta made. And so um, you know, with
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: with late season coming up, you've got good food sources,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: good grain. I'm a big grain guy when he gets late,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: i'd really have corn beans. Um. You know, when you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: get to that late season hunt and you've got good
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: food and you can get in out, it's as deadly
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: as any part of the year in my opinion. Uh So,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: so if someone you know, right now, it's it's today's
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: last day November. So we're just starting to make that
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: transition into December into that late season kind of phase
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of the year. Um. Is there anything that should be
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: done that people should be thinking about or or even
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: actually physically doing right now to prepare for this late season? Um?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Or would you say, you know, just get out and
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: start hunting food or I don't know, is there any
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: kind of transitionary things they should be doing right now
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: to get ready for that best late cold weather and hunts,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: you know? And I would say, you know, if you've
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: got to do something, you're buying the eight ball, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: it always got to be done ahead of time. You've
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: got to kind of prepare and have your stuff set up,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: because at this point I just locked down everything. I
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: keep everything do a minimum. Um. And I really watched
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: my cameras. You know, we'll we'll run a bunch of cameras.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: You know, they start coming back with the scrapes real
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: hard once the red lines and it seems like the
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: signpost kind of, you know, so you can run some
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: cameras back on the scrapes and a lot of food
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: and sore stuff, a lot of time lapps, you know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I run a lot of time laps cameras so I
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: can see the whole food plot before the sun goes down.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm doing, you know. And and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: that's the other thing. You know, a lot of these
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: food plots, I may have them set up to where
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you know, they are tight to the bedding, you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: which is when you get those beer in the real early.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I've killed a lot of here in lots
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: of years. I've killed a lot of ear at three
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon, you know, five, six, seven year
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: old and hex uh two years ago I killed the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: nine and a half year old and it was like three,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you know, so but that yeah, but that's kind of
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: getting back into that. You know, the foods where it
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: needs to be. It's close to the bedding. They don't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: have to move very far to get to it. But
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: then I've also got that you know component of if
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put some food here. You know, how can
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I monitor? How can I check it? Well, you know
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that's kind of like the blind deal. I tried to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: set it up to where, you know, as long as
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I got the right wind, I can get in there,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: pull some cards, get out midday or early late morning,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you know, and not having the issues. Um, you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: we're big on vehicles too, you know, Well, I'd much
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: rather pulling somewhere like a farmer, would, you know, just
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: in case something is on the food, you know, the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: middle of the a I'd really pull in there. And
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you know sometimes I'll even take the tractor and you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: just because they're used to it and it doesn't bother
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: them as much, you know, but I'd much rather you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: take a risk with a vehicle or attractive and you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: know walking up the hill and blowling out of fields
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: you know, on foot. So a lot of things with
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the with the trail cameras you were talking about, you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: monitoring these and you talked about using vehicles to access
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: it and things like that. Um, how often do you
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: go in to check these cameras? Because that's always something
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I struggle with, is to your point earlier you want
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: to keep everything, all your impact as minimal as possible.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you need to monitor these
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: somehows that you can make sure you're hunting at the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: right time. So how do you balance that? Um, you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: if the wind's right and I'm cautious, I'm not going
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: into their bedroom to get these and so I I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: don't worry about that as much. Not what that said.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not checking them every day, but I don't worry
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: about it too much. I'm really careful with my feet. Um,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll really take care of my boots. But
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: if the wind's right, you know, I'm not leaving a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: munch of boot tracks, which I'm there again, that's kind
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: of one of my my deals. I really watched my
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: my fliot tracks. Um, it doesn't bother me too much.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll slip in, slip out. You know. I
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: think I think deer expect a certain amount of pressure.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I think that they can they live with the next
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: amount of pressure, and I think that's a pressure that
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't bother them. You know, you're not going into their bedroom,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: You're not bumping them out of bed, You're not you know,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: as long as you're not flowing wind right down into
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: a drawer or ditch or block. The woods are in,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you know, and you're careful that's your feet. I'm big
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: on feet. Um. You know, I don't think it really
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: hurts me too much, you know. So you know, if
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I know there's a good one in there and I'm
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: really monitoring, I mean, I I may check camera, you know,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: like that big one this year. We were checking the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: camera every couple of days, you know. But we we
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: got in, got out. You know, we didn't do on
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the wind at all, but if we had the right wind,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: we'd go. We'd slip in, slip out, check it, you know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and make a decision from there. Yeah. Do you do
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: any other scouting of any kind this time of year?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe glassing or literally walking around at all, anything else
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: other than the cameras. Yeah. Glass, I'm a big I'm
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: a big glass. I've got all kinds of places. Most
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: of my farms, you know, they're tough, but you know
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: we've got advantage points. Um. You know that we can
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: go park and just glass and sit and watch and
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: you know, and I like doing that because I can
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: cover a lot more ground. Growing up, my father was big,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you know that was one of the things we did.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: You know, we covered a lot of ground. We had
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of ground to hunt grown up um, you know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and so rather than being stuck or can find in
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: one spot, you know, we could bounce around and cover
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: multiple farms and look at stuff and you know a
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: lot of deer I kill. I mean that's kind of
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: where it will start. You know, a lot of times
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: it's all I'll pick them up from glasso or scouting,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you know, their picture. But when you can lay eyeballs
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: on and watch them for ten minutes, you know, making
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: natural movement, and then you can really start to you know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: connect the dots at that point. And so while was
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the deer I shoot, you know, that's a big part
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: of it, is his glassing, scouting from the road, pulling
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: into high points, you know, anywhere you can get away
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: with it. So so would it be fair to say
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that you are doing that more often than maybe you're
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: even hunting during the late season. Yeah. Absolutely. My cameraman's
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: love me. They love you know, because I'm not the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: guy that's gonna just pound it out for seven straight days.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I mean I may hunt one day in seven, you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: if that's you know, because I'm not I'm not big
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: on blind hunting. I don't like to just goes all
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that's going here the winds right, you know. I like scenarios.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I like no big here and there. I like to
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: have a game plan. That's what gets me fired up anymore,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you know, And so when I can really start, you know,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I like going into a set because I've got a
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of data getting me there. I don't like
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: going and just setting all day and a set somewhere
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: to say I'm hunting. You know, I would rather go
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: go pick in points apart and start putting them together
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and be really fired up going in somewhere because I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: know he's either there or closed or he's been there,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you know. And so yeah, I do have tons of scounting.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I would. You know, this year, we we weren't hunting
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: mornings much at all because I didn't want to go
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: take the chance. I knew I had his I had
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: his kitchen, you know, I can hut him in the bedroom.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: But I knew I had the food. I knew that
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: we could get in and out super super easy. It
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: was like a dream set up for in and out,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: and so I just you know, mornings. We we took
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: a couple of shots seen him once, you know, about
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: killed him that first move I made on him. But
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: you know, in the mornings, i'd go run around the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: sections and part and watch and just see if I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: put eyeballs on him. And and we did. You know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: we've seen him quite a bit. Yeah. So so in
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the late season then what what has to be present
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: as far as conditions or data for you to take
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: that shot? Um? Like right now, I'm struggling with after
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that year. Um, I've got a handful of five year
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: olds that didn't grow much. Um. And so I'm really
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: struggling with him. And I'm rolling the dice and maybe
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: all of them, but one for letting them go another
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: year to see what happens. Um. But you know it
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: like that one deer, I'm gonna want to I'm gonna
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I want to get it. You don't where he's did, right,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I know where he likes to bed. I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: know kind of where his home is. Um, But I
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: wanna I want to get him in on that food plot.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I want to see him on camera. I'd like to
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: see him in daylight, you know, whether it's scouting that
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: food plot, from a distance or slipping in and pulling
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: a card. Um. But yeah, I won't, you know. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: talked to Adam, a cameraman just earlier today, and he
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: asked me what's going on? I said, absolutely nothing. And
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: it won't be the weather's warm, I said, once it
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: cools off, I said, I'm gonna keep watching camera's'mna keep
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: scouting and once I really get one, you know, once
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you know one's in there, and then then I'll get
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: after it. But if I don't know there's one in there,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I'll leave it alone, you know. And so between cameras
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: or or glassing you know, a field, I'll sit back, um,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: rather than take a shot and go up in there
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, just on a whim and and you know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: maybe something happens and and figgure it up and you know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: and set yourself back. So so would you not even
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: go in if we got a great set of conditions.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: So let's say you haven't gotten eyes on him, you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: recent in daylight or something like that, but we just
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: get this mega cold front and snow. Will something like
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: that dream scenario be enough to get you to go
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: in there even though you don't have the sighting or
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: the picture to tell you to go or is it
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: you I gotta have that, yeah, yeah, And that's if
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you get a you know that that big cold push
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: coming down, big front, cold temperature, snow, you know, the
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: perfect storm everybody wants and looks you got all roll
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: the dice on those average conditions. Now I'll just sit
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: back all way. You know. Now I've killed a lot
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: of deer in average conditions because there again I went
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: full of the card or glass the field and wow,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: he's in there, you know, fortyfore dark and and then
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the next night getting there on very fair
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you know, conditions that are fair at best, you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: warm or wind whatever, and get up killed. But yeah,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: if I get that perfect storm of big front moving
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: in cold camps some snow combined, yeah, then then what
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I do is if I don't have one, really you know,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a beat on one, then I just used my gut up. Okay,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this is where he's gonna be, this
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: where he's always been, this is where he likes to
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: be this time of the year. And then I'll take
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: my shot, you know at that point, So weather, we'll
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: get me, We'll get me on a food source even
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: without you know, getting some sort of data knowing they're
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: in there. Yeah. Do do you pay attention at all
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: to things like like an annual pattern, Like if you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: saw a certain buck, you know, show up in daylight
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: last year on December fifteenth and seventeenth and eighteen, would
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you think about that this year and say, hey, I
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: think it's likely he might start showing up around the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: same time him. Do you pay attention to anything like that? Oh? Absolutely,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the moon, the pressure recently, you know, because I'm that year,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, like that nine and a
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: half year old, like he may have been ten a half.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: We had pictures of him from either too to nine
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: or from three to ten, so you know, it's kind
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: of at that point is to know it's in the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: nine or ten year old. But but like that there,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you know, once we didn't get it killed and we
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and we've we've seen him the year before killed him
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: for the first time. But yeah, you know, once I
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: look back at him, I mean his patterns spring and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: summer and falling winter were the same for eight years,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: you know, And so yeah, I I had a lot
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: of here that way, where you know, if they do
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: something one year at a certain time frame, there's a
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: lot of there's a good chance that you know, they'll
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: do the same thing in a similar time frame the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: following year. And and a lot of us do it
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: sing too. You know. On my farm, we've got we've
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: got river bottom, you know, which is always early season.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: That's where they're at, you know, you can about bank
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: on it. And then I've got these you know, wintering
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: farms or you know areas where they just transition, you know,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: And so you know, year after year, I've learned that,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you know, if there's deer on this bottom and when
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: it when they start looking for that warm spot on
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the hill, they're gonna be right up here, you know.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: And so you know, a lot of that weather will
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: dictate that. But then also, like you said, you know,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: four year old one year, you know he's up here,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: you know, seting doing whatever. Following year. It's funny how
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: more often than not about the same time they'll do
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah. So another thing that I've personally
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: been trying to to look at kind of similar to this,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: see if I can identify pattern with this buck that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I keep mentioning that I've been trying to figure out, Um,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I've started to wonder, you know, does he show up
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: in a certain food source or in a certain area
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: with a given wind direction and try to correlate that.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: So so, no, Okay, when there's a southwest wind, it's
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: probably my best chance he'll be on the south side
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: of farm with the southwest wind. But then when I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: got the northwest wind, then it's most likely he's gonna
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: be over here. Do you see common movement with a
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  Speaker 1: common wind direction over the years, And then he's dear too.
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  Speaker 1: I don't that one. I would say, No, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I that one. I've not dug in that. Um. Sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean I I sometimes I listen to people
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and kind of their theory and stories, and it's like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes I remember there an animal, you know, and so
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: is there are there bucks out there that get just
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: so ridiculously smart they don't move unless the winds. Yeah,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are. But you know, I'm fortunate up
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: there again to being an area where there are pressure.
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  Speaker 1: We keep the pressure low. I just don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: see that, you know what I mean? And I'm not
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: saying doesn't happen, but it's it's not something that I've
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: taken note of over the years and thought, you know, wow,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: this Bucks. I mean with the north Wind, he's gonna
• 1:02:23
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• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: gonna go off this you know. Um, that's one I
• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:47
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not my agree, and it's all calculated. It's just
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes you can get taught up and give them
• 1:03:01
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• 1:03:04
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• 1:03:05
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• 1:03:09
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  Speaker 1: so what about this scenario. Then, Let's say you've got
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  Speaker 1: a handful of different types of food sources on your
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: property in the late season. Maybe you maybe you've got
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: a grain field somewhere, maybe that's corner beans. And then
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: maybe you've got a green food source, maybe it's brassicas
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: or something like that. Uh, and who knows what else.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe then there's a natural forage area. Maybe there's still
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: some akecorns or something along those lines in another section
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  Speaker 1: near farm. I find myself in this to lem him,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into a late season hunt. Conditions seem good,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, which food source should I focus on?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Because so much late season hunting is focused on food?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: How do you choose the right food? Is there any
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: set of conditions that you said, Okay, now i'm gonna
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: focus on green. Now I'm gonna focus on grain. Now
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something different. How do you think about that? Um,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: that's corn? Is king? That is easy. I mean, I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: just I've always lived like and here's late season. You know,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: you get your guys that a diehard being guys, and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I always laugh and say, you better hope my corn
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: plotting across the sense or across the road from me,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm gonna own them in And I truly believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't. I think beans are great. I think
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: they've got this place. I think they're they're awesome food
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: source for a longer time frame. You know, it's like alfalfa.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I think alfalfa is probably the one I've taken off
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: my farm and I'm putting it back on my farm.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: And I think alfalfa's, you know, if you want to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: hold dear, is one of the most important, you know components.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: I think beans have an awesome place. But when you
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: get right down to late season hunting and what they
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: really need, it's it's cars, it's corn. You know they're
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: gonna come to you. You know you've got a food
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: plot that's half corn, half beans. I'm not saying they're
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: gonna go all, you know, but that corn is gonna
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: own the majority of them. And I think with consistency,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: it's gonna there's gonna be some nifer. Yeah, they're gonna
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: they're gonna hit. You're gonna see dearing the beans a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: little more in the corn. But I think consistently, day
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: in day out, when you're hunting, you know, in our
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: region where you're snow and cold and their survival mode
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: corns game, do you give any do you have any? Um?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: What am I trying to say? Green food sources like turnips,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Brassica's rape kill, all that kind of stuff. Does that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: do much for you? Yeah? We use them, Yeah, we
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: use them. And I think there's some you know, like
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: post right like right now, you know, first gun season
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: for us early December. I think it's phenomenal, um, you know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: because it's the last green rang else has done turned.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: And you know, if you've got some green and everything
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: else has already turned, yeah, you're you know, you're you're
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: in the chips and so and so that's where you know,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of these different you know, food sources have
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: their spots, you know, and out on them and I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: love them. But when you start talking consistently, day in
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: day out, corn is king. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: beat that. Um. Now, how about we're actually out there hunting, though, Well,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious about your actual stand set ups
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: for the late season. Are you are you are you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: hunting on tree stands? Are you just doing ground blinds
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: or box blinds or if you are in a tree stand.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I'd be interested in the details of how
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: you make a tree stand set up work in the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: late season, given you know some of the challenges with
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: cover and stuff like that too. What's what's your take
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: on that the only time I hunt stands laid is
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: if it's the only option, you know, whether it's topography
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: or or there's a deer somewhere you didn't expect and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: there's just no way you want to risk putting the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: blind in there. Um, But that there again, you know,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like I prepare well enough that that really
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen very often. Um, it's been quite a while.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: But know, we're technically hunting, you know, some sort of
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: a blind. We're either in banks or in a you know,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: a hay bell blind ground blind. Um. But you know,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: i'd say my go too is for the most part
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: of my banks blinds and hay Bell blinds, you know,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I love in cattle country, they're used to Hey, bells.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, we get in the room and we like them.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: You know, they work out really well. Um, once in
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: a while we'll run to pop up, just quick and easy,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: you know. But I like my banks blinds. They're they're
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: they're pretty tough to be when snows on the ground
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: and it's in the teams for highs. Yeah, a little
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: more comfortable too, yeah, Yeah, office chairs or night Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My dad whenever he uses one of my box blinds,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: he always brings a little Mr Heat, Mr Buddy heater
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and there too, you can get real luxurious. Yeah if
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I if I'm in the right spot, I'll do it.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: We do it too, you know. But if we're we're
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: flirting at the edge, will hold off on that. But
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: if we're in one responses bulletproof and you know we
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: don't have any worries, and yeah we'll fire for heater.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Now when you're in a blind like that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: or maybe your hay L blind. Um, you talked about
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: how much you you use thosonics, which I do too. Um,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: how do you set up your asonis in that situation? Uh,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: to to still maintain that you know that that stream
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: of scent elimination of sorts well, I mean we we
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: just mount them. You know, it's like it's it's you know,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: figure out where your winds at and get them mounted.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: You know, it's blind like a hay bell or ground
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: by even that's even you know, like a tower blind
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: of banks that's got you know, like ours as mintoles.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: You know, if you can then ventury or force your
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: your wind through one spot and wash it. And so
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of times yeah, we'll leave you know, part
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: of the door on a zip or not, you know,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: completely shut, or we'll crack a window, or in the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: banks blinds, we'll put our those omics right over that
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: vent hole to where you know you're really really doing it.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: You know, you're you're washing your sense so to speak,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: in the best way possible because you're were snarling down
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: to a tight little spot and then you're putting that
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: those ms fry on top of it. So you know,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: in the in the bank's lines, I'll just walk it.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: When I get up get up in there on the platform,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I'll just put it up on the roof once I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: know where the winds at. Um. A lot of kids
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: loopen a window, mount one to the window and then
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: shut it, you know, so that it's going in the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: same way with like our hay bells. Um. You know,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I'll just screw the same tree attachment, you know, I'll
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: just screw right into the wall on the outside. Once
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I know where the winds at and turn it on
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: turbo and and so so it's just about wherever your
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: winds going. Just you know, what I've always told people
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: and the doubters is it's more of a washing mechanism.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: It's not you know, going on the insinality. You want
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: wherever your winds going, you want you want it going
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: right through that that o zone, you know, And so
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: we just set it up accordingly. Yeah, do you have
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: a specifically made mount to use the with a with
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: a box spline like that or do you make something custom? No,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I just put on the roof, um and if and
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: if it's if it's flick or something, you know, then
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: then I improviseed. I mean earlier the year I took
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: a you know, I always carry kate, you know, my backpack,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: and I really just took a piece of guerrilla tape,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and roll it over stuck on the bottom
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: and just you know, and then and then it just
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: stuck to the top now on the windows, they do
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: make that mount word to Cliff on the windows, which
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: is I think it's actually designed for your pull in
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: a pop up wind and you're you know, in those
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: in the pop ups, they've got that one mount um
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: that same mount will hook right on the window bracket
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: of them banks. I know, there's hook right in and hand,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you know. So and now I even went extreme before
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: and just screwed a hole right on the side of
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: the line, you know. I you know, if that's what
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: it takes, and I'm on a big one, then I'm
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: gonna screw a hole on the side of my blind.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. So we just find a way
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: to make it work. I guess, you know. It's like
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's like a throw camera. It's awesome if you
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: gotta you know, though a trail pod or you've got
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: some sort of mechanism to you know, get it all perfect.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of times I don't have that.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I'm using twigs STIGs, and you know, it's just whatever
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: you can get to to get it where you need.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of thing with once I figure out
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: my wind is I just you know, try to get
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: up above us and downwind yea, do what you gotta
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: do exactly. So is there is there anything else in
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: the late season front, uh, that we haven't talked about?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Is there anything you're doing at this time of year
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: throughout the end of the season, um that has led
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: to success for you that we haven't talked about now?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's basically food and you know,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: evening hunts very very very rarely morning and I mean
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: I can't even remember the last time. It's been years,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: you know, But mainly it's you know, take your shots,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: you know, add up all the data, take your shots,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: and you feel good, hunt the weather, you know, don't
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: get busted. I mean that's you know, good food. That's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: and that's the key, you know. And that's tough. I mean,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: not everybody's got the availability to you know, get you know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: the food needed, you know, on farms and they're getting
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: anfortunate up to they do. And then we get tractors
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and planners and I want a plant ten acres and
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: standing corn somewhere. I go to plant ten a tan
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: acres standing corn and you know, at that point and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: I know it's gonna make it through season. And then
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: we run the combine through it when it's over, so
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: you know it's it makes you know. So, so that's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: the big one, you know, basically taking your shots. And
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: if you don't have food, you don't have deer. You know,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: you're around my area, so you gotta have food, you know.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: And anymore everybody seems like, you know, food is becoming
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: more prevalent, you know, So if you want to hold
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: your deer, you know, if you lose, if you run
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: out of food, your neighbors are gonna be holding your deer,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: you know. So you're just trying to You're trying to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: get them through season with enough food on your farm.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: They ain't looking somewhere else. Yeah, that's the trick. That
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: is the trick. Sure, absolutely well, I guess you know.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Here here's one final thing um that we hadn't mentioned,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: which is just getting a shot off in the late
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: season when you're wearing more clothing or it's just colder.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Is that something you think about when it comes to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: whether you're still bow hunting or using fire arms or
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: anything specially you think about when it comes to that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: moment of truth here in the later part of the year,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: as conditions and and just you're what you're actually wearing
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: out there might be differ. Yeah. I mean, if I'm
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: bow hunting, absolutely, you know, I'm a big fan of
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: heater body suits. You know, if I'm bow hunting late season,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I just don't like shooting really bulky and I'm not
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that can do it. I don't
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: like to do it, you know. So yeah, at that
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: the point, if I'm bow hunting late season, you know,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: i'd much other being a heater body soon with light
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: layers underneath, so that you know, I can I feel
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: normal shooting my bow. Um, you know, that'd be the
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: big one. If I'm gun hund I'm not not worried
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: about it all. I can be as bulky and heavy
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: as I want to be and it doesn't affect me.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: But with the bow, I like to get in the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: heater body suit and try to keep you know, my
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: layers to a minimum so I'm not all bound up. Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: You know, another thing I've always recommended to folks too,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: is you know, regardless of what you're wearing, when you
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: get up into your tree, you're blind wherever you're at,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: make sure you you just test it out. So make
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: sure you draw back and feel how it's gonna feel,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: and make sure nothing's bunching up, you know, unexpectedly that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: that you know, if you hadn't practice through that routine
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: wearing your late season gear, you wouldn't have noticed that,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I got all this huge bunch up on
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: my left arm that maybe would mess up with the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: with your cables or something. So that's good, just to
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: practice make sure that's happening. Um okay. And then and
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  Speaker 1: then I don't even I don't know if this is
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  Speaker 1: something you ever do, but I find myself on those
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  Speaker 1: really cold days that if you sit if you're sitting
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  Speaker 1: there for three or four hours in the evening maybe
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  Speaker 1: and it's seven degrees or ten degrees or something, you
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  Speaker 1: kind of stiffen up a little bit. So if you
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  Speaker 1: if you find yourself where there's for sure no deer
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  Speaker 1: in sight, and and of course that's not always a given,
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  Speaker 1: but if you can find yourself a little second where
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  Speaker 1: you can just draw that bow back just to warm
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  Speaker 1: yourself up and stretch those muscles out, sometimes that's a
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  Speaker 1: good thing to do too. Yeah. I've even climbed it
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  Speaker 1: down the stand on because I was beyond because I
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  Speaker 1: was beyond the point of worried about my bow. I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was in freeze mode, you know. So I've even yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you look around, if you feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: and it's early, I've even climbed down the tree. And
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  Speaker 1: by I mean that will get to warm up in hurry. So,
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  Speaker 1: especially when you're in a thirty three stand like most
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  Speaker 1: of mine, are you you got mounting up once seriously
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  Speaker 1: warmed up for a while. Yeah, and and taking that
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  Speaker 1: little risk of going up and down, that's that's better
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  Speaker 1: than having to leave completely right and complete. Yeah, I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather do that and sit there and like you said,
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  Speaker 1: stove up and make a bad shot or you know,
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  Speaker 1: not be able to get your bow back or you
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  Speaker 1: know whatever. But yeah, I'd rather I'd really take that
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  Speaker 1: chance and be able to sit there for another hour
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  Speaker 1: and to you know, not be able to get my
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  Speaker 1: bow anchored back ride or be stoved up and leave
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  Speaker 1: type of deal. So sure, well, Gabe, I'm gonna try
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  Speaker 1: to take some of the things we've been talking about
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  Speaker 1: today and put them into action. Actually right now I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna I'm down in Ohio for the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: days of their firearm season, so I'm gonna wrap this
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  Speaker 1: up and try to kill a very late November buck.
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  Speaker 1: But for anyone out there who has heard this conversation
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  Speaker 1: and wants to get in touch with you about about
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: land or anything else, you know, where can they learn
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  Speaker 1: more about what you've got going on or possibly get
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  Speaker 1: But email, text, phone calls specifically wants to talk to
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  Speaker 1: um by keep an eye on all those and so phone, call,
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  Speaker 1: text or email and get a hold of me. Awesome. Well, Gabe,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much and good luck for the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the season. Yep, no, I appreciate it. Good luck
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