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Popping Off: VPR Ep 14 + The Valley Ep 7 · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
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  Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show
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  Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season
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  Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of Popping Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and.
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  Speaker 2: And with Emily Simpson. And I didn't get the memo
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to get full glam.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: No, I didn't know. Can you let me know next time?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you didn't know what I was going to
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  Speaker 1: be in the full glad.
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  Speaker 2: I will Emily.
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  Speaker 1: I look up like this clearly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. That's not full glam. She always
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  Speaker 2: looks like that.
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  Speaker 1: I look like this every pod. And I actually I
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  Speaker 1: am offended that you think that I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't have full glamb because I spent the
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  Speaker 2: last two nights with a son who threw up every
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  Speaker 2: night for a two nights in a row.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm well, so you're really you're really feeling your best?
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, I mean, and I hope you don't take
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  Speaker 1: offense to this, but I didn't actually glamb. For the
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  Speaker 1: podcast of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's what I figured.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does. The crazy thing about glam is
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  Speaker 1: you forget you. You get glammed all the time. Now
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  Speaker 1: when you're filming, when you haven't been glammed for a while,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, gosh, makeup and hair really does make your different.
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  Speaker 2: Shit, it does. You're like, oh, there she is there. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: Like I walk out.
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  Speaker 1: And one's like, what are you doing? Yeah, you're not
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  Speaker 1: your emerge padramas and dirty hair on top of your
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  Speaker 1: head and a messy butN okay, can you even with
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  Speaker 1: last night?
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  Speaker 2: In the episodes, they're good. I gotta give them that.
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  Speaker 1: They're good. Well, before we get into the actual breakdowns
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  Speaker 1: of the episodes, let's talk a little bit about the headlines. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So this first one is from People magazine article. Arion
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  Speaker 1: and Maddox says Rachel is trying to blame her and
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  Speaker 1: revenge peorn lawsuit. She is responding, and she says, according
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  Speaker 1: to the filing, Ariana was devastated and immediately confronted Sandoval
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  Speaker 1: and Levis about their alleged betrayal, as well as informing
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  Speaker 1: her friends and colleagues. However, the attorneys claimed she did
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  Speaker 1: not share or show any of the video footage she
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  Speaker 1: found with anyone but Levis. In fact, Miss Maddox could
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  Speaker 1: not have shared such footage because mister Sandoval deleted it
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  Speaker 1: from her phone within minutes of Miss Maddox confronting him,
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  Speaker 1: a fact, Miss Mattocks stated and writing thirty three minutes
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  Speaker 1: after sending the video to Levis. The filing alleges. Attorneys
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  Speaker 1: from Maddix claim that once the news of the affair broke,
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  Speaker 1: much of the public discussion about Levis was negative, but
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  Speaker 1: she was thrilled to be in the public eye. All
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  Speaker 1: of this we knew was coming. But what I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know was coming was going to be screenshots, timeline proof.
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  Speaker 2: And this is.
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  Speaker 1: Where it's kind of a doozy. So the first you
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  Speaker 1: see the text messages between Arianna and Rachel, and it said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're talking about whatever. We're gonna watch watch
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  Speaker 1: what Happens live right now? Oh nice, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 1: find the whole episode on YouTube. Same it's not on Peacock.
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  Speaker 1: If you have Spectrum, it'll be on at three ah
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  Speaker 1: forty more minutes. You know, like they're just whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Normal normal chit chat. Is this DMS or is this
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  Speaker 2: text texts. These are texts. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then Saturday, February twenty fifth, at ten oh one pm, yay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy you're coming with Brad and Jamie. And then
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday at nine thirty seven pm, there's a text from
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  Speaker 1: Ariana to Rachel you are dead to me all in caps. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So that comes in at nine thirty seven. Then Friday
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  Speaker 1: at eight fifty six pm. So this is Wednesday at
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  Speaker 1: nine thirty seven, then Friday at eight fifty six Rachel response, Ariana,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to say right now. Besides, I
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  Speaker 1: really stup and I am so so sorry. Arian A response,
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  Speaker 1: which looks like immediately because there's no time stamp shut
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  Speaker 1: the guping rat. All of this I understand, but this
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  Speaker 1: is what really got me. Then look right below it
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  Speaker 1: and it says you stop sharing your location with Rachel Levis.
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  Speaker 1: To me, that was the biggest like aha moment was
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  Speaker 1: Rachel sharing her location back with Arianna and did like
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  Speaker 1: you For anybody that thought that Ariana knew or was
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  Speaker 1: it in on this or whatever it may be, there's
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  Speaker 1: no freaking way you are sharing your location with someone
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  Speaker 1: you think is sleeping with your significant other.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean I don't share my location
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  Speaker 2: with anyone. I don't really understand the sharing location thing
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  Speaker 2: is that that must be like a younger generation thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well I have it. I have it with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of my friends and stuff like that, but.
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  Speaker 2: None of what's the purpose though, Just to make.
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  Speaker 1: Sure that you're always okay, or say, for if you're
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  Speaker 1: like on your way whatever it may be. Like I
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  Speaker 1: definitely do with my kids. I do it with Edwin,
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  Speaker 1: and then I have like five friends that we share
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  Speaker 1: our location.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I share my location with anyone, not
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  Speaker 2: my kids or Shane.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, fine, I'm going to send you a location request.
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  Speaker 2: And I will deny it immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Like are you going places you don't want me to know?
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  Speaker 2: No? But I mean, does everyone need to know I'm
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  Speaker 2: at Trader Joe's for like the fourth time this week.
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  Speaker 1: But to prove that she did not send those videos
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  Speaker 1: out to anyone other than Rachel, Arianna has text. There's
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  Speaker 1: text going to Daddy, which my guest is Daddy is Logan.
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  Speaker 1: Logan's Ariana's best friend who has always been super nice
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  Speaker 1: to me. We see him pop up in vander Pumpoles
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  Speaker 1: from time to time. I called her She says, I
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  Speaker 1: called her after finding out and texting her the videos
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  Speaker 1: of herself from Tom's phone, that I took Tom took
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  Speaker 1: my phone and deleted them, chased him all the way
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  Speaker 1: down Sam Vincente. So this is her proof that she
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  Speaker 1: was unable to send these screen grabs to anyone other
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  Speaker 1: than Rachel, Right, So, I don't know, I just I
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  Speaker 1: guess I was blown away that Rachel would even I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Like to me, Rachel having her location and
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  Speaker 1: being able to track how far away she is from
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  Speaker 1: from home or where she is or when she's with
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  Speaker 1: Tom the entire time during her affair with Tom is
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  Speaker 1: really disgusting to me.
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  Speaker 2: You think that's super icky that she knew so she
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  Speaker 2: always knew where Arianna was, but she she couldn't have
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  Speaker 2: been sharing her location, how could she?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she always gonna have been with Tom. And
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  Speaker 1: then that lead me led me to the next question,
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  Speaker 1: if you're location person, did she have Tom's location? And
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  Speaker 1: then what was Rachel's reasoning for not sharing her location back?
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  Speaker 2: Well, her reason was because she was sleeping with Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Well clearly, but like now I really need to know, like, Rachel,
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  Speaker 1: did you share your location back? And then how did
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  Speaker 1: you get out of all this bullshit? And would you
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  Speaker 1: believe that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how did she get away with not sharing
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  Speaker 2: her location but knowing where everybody else's location was. So
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  Speaker 2: you're saying she's not really so much of the innocent
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  Speaker 2: party in this, that she's more of a mastermind than
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  Speaker 2: we're allowing her to be. Like, this is proving that
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  Speaker 2: she was in it more, she knew what she was doing.
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  Speaker 2: She wants to talk about how she was manipulated, but
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  Speaker 2: it looks as if she kind of was more in
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  Speaker 2: control than she's letting on.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly, if you are tracking where the guy you're sleeping
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  Speaker 1: with a girlfriend that of over ten years is at
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  Speaker 1: all times, and you know how far away she is
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  Speaker 1: from the house where you're sleeping with him, or the
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  Speaker 1: car or wherever it may be, there's something really that's
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  Speaker 1: actually like stick in the head.
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  Speaker 2: What is there the possibility that maybe all these people
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  Speaker 2: are just sharing each other's locations and she didn't even
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  Speaker 2: remember that she knew her location or she was shared
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  Speaker 2: her location.
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  Speaker 1: That's like saying, oh, my boyfriend broke up with me
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  Speaker 1: and I never go look at his Instagram page to
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  Speaker 1: see his new girlfriend. No, no, no, if.
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  Speaker 2: You see, I would never do that. I don't like
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  Speaker 2: to self inflict pain.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I do. I love it. I love it. It really
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  Speaker 1: fills out my ca like I'm gonna I'm gonna lurk around.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about someone who Last night I
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  Speaker 1: had to teach myself how to use Patreon. I know
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get off topic for a second, but I
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  Speaker 1: never used Patreon before last night. I downloaded the app,
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  Speaker 1: had to go deep down a rabbit hole because someone
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  Speaker 1: did a twelve part series on the rise and Ruin
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  Speaker 1: of Rachel Hollis and Dave Hollis. Like I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know the person doing it. I saw one thing online
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  Speaker 1: and like I couldn't even help myself. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I have four dollars and fifty cents
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  Speaker 1: and this is something I'm gonna go down. And the
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  Speaker 1: ed of one this morning was like, woke up and
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  Speaker 1: he's like, you're still listening. I was like, I need
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  Speaker 1: to finish. She's like, you actually are sick in the
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  Speaker 1: head that you need to hear all of this last night,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, yep, no time for sleep when
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  Speaker 1: there's this many crumbs to pick up, Like what is
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  Speaker 1: wrong with me a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know them.
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  Speaker 1: My point is, Rachel, you probably should have left this lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: Just let it go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the best thing to do is just
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  Speaker 2: tuck your tail between your legs and just be like,
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  Speaker 2: I messed up and then just let it go. It's
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  Speaker 2: bad enough that she has a podcast where she gets
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  Speaker 2: to talk about everything without actually having to confront anyone.
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  Speaker 2: But the like the lawsuit is just that's a lot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And while we're on the topic of her, and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll go back up to the other headlines. But I
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  Speaker 1: just want to stay on her or why we're speaking
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  Speaker 1: about her. She is doing a good job of keeping
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  Speaker 1: her in our mouths because we keep talking about her.
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  Speaker 1: She's now dating CEO Investment Matthew Done. The two met
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  Speaker 1: through friends, and I've been enjoying their time together. Levis
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  Speaker 1: publicist Juliete Harris confirmed that the situationship to et, but
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  Speaker 1: emphasize that assigning labels is premature. Harris stated that the
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  Speaker 1: two met just over a month ago and are currently
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  Speaker 1: getting to know each other as friends. Also, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think when you have kids. What I saw online appears
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  Speaker 1: these are his children. That she's hanging out with. If
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  Speaker 1: that's the case, it's no longer a situationship in my book.
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  Speaker 1: If you've met his children, then I'm sorry if both like, no,
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  Speaker 1: matter what you are now together with his children, don't
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  Speaker 1: call it the situationship. It just feels icky to me,
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  Speaker 1: but also old.
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  Speaker 2: How old are the children? Are we talking small children?
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  Speaker 1: No, they don't appear soon for young children, Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know that answer.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not know that? The way you dig
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  Speaker 2: and you don't know that?
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  Speaker 1: Because I could, I didn't really, to be honest, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't care that much. I just saw that there was
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  Speaker 1: children involved, and then I saw Matthew, and then I
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  Speaker 1: saw Rachel, and then I thought, hasn't she maybe learned
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  Speaker 1: about having these really public relationships? Like I thought, that's
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  Speaker 1: what she wanted to get away from.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he did make his profile private, right, well probably,
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  Speaker 2: but she shared.
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  Speaker 1: She shared a clip on social media of herself writing
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  Speaker 1: an ATV alongside Done, who owns Done Investment Group and Spokane, Washington.
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  Speaker 1: According to his Lincoln, they didn't have time to zip
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  Speaker 1: over to LinkedIn.
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  Speaker 2: That's next yeay vp our Season twelve filming is delayed
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  Speaker 2: as Bravo hits pause for the summer. The Valley not affected.
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  Speaker 2: It was from a Deadline article. As vanderbomberules season eleven
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  Speaker 2: starts wrapping up on Bravo, Deadline has learned that production
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  Speaker 2: for season twelve has been delayed. A source close to
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  Speaker 2: the cast confirmed that the show would not be filming
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  Speaker 2: the summer, breaking the production schedule's norm. TMZ, which first
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  Speaker 2: reported the news, states that one reason for the hiatus
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  Speaker 2: is to give the cast a break following the fallout
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  Speaker 2: from Scandabal. Another potential reason for the break is to
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  Speaker 2: hold off on Maddox's return from Fiji, where she will
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: be hosting Love Island season six. According to our sources,
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  Speaker 2: spin off The Valley will not be affected by the
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  Speaker 2: Vander pump Roules hiatus and will continue on its projected
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  Speaker 2: production schedule. Although Bravo has not officially confirmed a second
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  Speaker 2: season for the spinoff, ratings for the show have been promising.
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  Speaker 2: The Valley scored Bravo's best seven day premiere audience in
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  Speaker 2: nearly a decade. Okay, first of all, my first question
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  Speaker 2: is do you do you think it's because of relationships
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  Speaker 2: or just because of a scheduling issue.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think one's there's a big divide in that group,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that they're hoping that if they give
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  Speaker 1: the group some space, they'll be able to create, you know,
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  Speaker 1: more drama will occur in their lives that they then
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  Speaker 1: can bring onto the show. But if they just continue
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  Speaker 1: right back up, they'll be starting the same exact thing
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  Speaker 1: that they've talked about this entire season. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think there's that many additional storylines going on. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: think the La La storyline is interesting with or getting pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the Brock and Sheena storyline is interesting
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  Speaker 1: because you're seeing that like real life dynamics of having
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  Speaker 1: a baby and how it changes your relationship and power struggle.
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  Speaker 1: So those are interesting. But like, what storyline are we
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  Speaker 1: seeing about the Toms? Nothing? Oh, unless they live together,
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  Speaker 1: which we can see in five months from now, we
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  Speaker 1: don't need to see it, like you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to happen right away, or like I
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  Speaker 1: like James and Ali this season, But do I really
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  Speaker 1: care what's going on with them? Not particularly?
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  Speaker 2: Do you? Well, no, because first of all, they just
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  Speaker 2: seem to be solid and when a relationship is solid.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it is that interesting. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's been anything else other than
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  Speaker 2: the one conversation they had where she said she wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really interested in getting married. Maybe she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: have kids. They haven't really done much with that. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really a deal breaker in
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  Speaker 2: the relationship or not. It doesn't seem to be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're out, they don't seem affected by it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then on watch What Happens Live last night, Katie
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  Speaker 1: and Arianna were both there, and you know, it could
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  Speaker 1: also be Ariana's scheduling. They want to make sure arian
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  Speaker 1: is going to stay a part of the show, and
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  Speaker 1: even said to her, did you watch this season? And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, no, you know, I got my dream job,
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  Speaker 1: which she's talking about Chicago, and she's like, so I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to just stay focused on that, And you see
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Andy he kind of makes that face where he's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I wish you want to watch the stasion before the
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  Speaker 1: reunion and she's like, well, you know, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like she wasn't one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent in it. And I don't know if that means
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  Speaker 1: the writing's on the wall that she's not coming back
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  Speaker 1: to vander Pump Rules, or if that just means they
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  Speaker 1: want to give her time so that she definitely will
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  Speaker 1: come back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but do you do you think she doesn't watch it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't watch Orange County. I've said that
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  Speaker 2: for six years. But I mean, do you really think
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  Speaker 2: that she doesn't. I mean, she can remove herself from it,
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  Speaker 2: not watch a full episode, but still know what's going
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  Speaker 2: on and what the deal is.
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  Speaker 1: And you see clips even if you don't watch the show,
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  Speaker 1: you see clips like you see clips from Orange County.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean, I don't sit and watch the
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  Speaker 2: full episode when it's said to me, I never do that.
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't like to. But I always know
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. First of all, you know, when the
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  Speaker 2: show is airing, you get everybody's tweeting, everybody's dming, there's clips,
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  Speaker 2: so I feel like I have a grasp on it.
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  Speaker 2: But I just wonder if she really did avoid all
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  Speaker 2: of that, or if she just felt like she looked
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  Speaker 2: bad so she didn't want to comment or act like
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  Speaker 2: she was aware of it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, and even if she didn't watch
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  Speaker 1: Katie said something along the lines of like, of course
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  Speaker 1: I watched with a fine tooth comb, you know, Like,
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  Speaker 1: so your best friend is probably going to fill you in.
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  Speaker 1: So like if even if you didn't watch, and Gina
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  Speaker 1: saw you do some shit on the last episode, she's
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's Shane. Shane watches, right, someone in your
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  Speaker 2: circle of people that are going to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you are a total shit show this week. Oh no,
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  Speaker 2: Shane's as blunt as possible. He'll be like, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: looked really bad. I'm like, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think, yeah, I mean, does Shane do
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  Speaker 1: your reunion notes?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he definitely Well, I mean no, I don't really
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  Speaker 2: take notes, but I mean he definitely is like this
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  Speaker 2: is gonna get brought up. They're going to ask you this.
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  Speaker 2: You need to be aware of this. Like he's pretty
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  Speaker 2: good about telling me that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, So I don't really know. I do think
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  Speaker 1: having Arianna and Katie on together was a choice that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I loved.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I felt like it's just the two of them
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: all the time together, right, and you don't get much
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: dynamic between them and the rest of the women because
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: it's just the two of them. They do everything together.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, half the time they were talking about the Valley.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Couldn't we have had a Valley person like one of
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: them from the Valley, you know, especially because there are
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: points of view. I like, when I'm watching Watch What
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Happens Live to see people that you know, even in
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: though they're friends, they are going to have different opinions.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: But everything, even they're your choices, were exactly the same.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's what I mean. I mean, it's
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: like they're morphing into the same person. They make the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: same eye roll, they have the same side ei, they're
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: annoyed by the same people. That's the part where I'm like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I think that part's annoying. Yeah, but wait,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: here's my other question about this. So last summer, The
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Valley and vander Pump Rules were filmed at the same time.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: That's why we get so much of a crossover, right right.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's exactly the same time, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the same time frame.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Because I'm just saying, if VPR is affected by this hiatus,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: so they're not being filmed at the same time, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: wonder if there's still so much of a crossover because
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like, you can watch, but.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: There's going to be more of a crossover, you think,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: so yeah, because they're not going to be more Time's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: going to be more time. And whether they just want
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: more airtime or they want to get I don't know
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: if they the ones that pop in get day rates.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: But my guess is we're going to see a lot
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: more of vander Pump Rules people on the Valley throughout,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: especially as we watch Britain leaving Jacks and needing a
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: friend group and kind of going through all of these things.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think we could see clearly in this episode,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Nia is in no position right now to be the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: sole person that can help other people through stuff. You know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: when you're going through it, you can't be that. And
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to need to show some of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Brittany with her actual friends. And I don't know that
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Janet is it is Tianna anyone's friend, but yeah, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: don't know. We saw in this Weekly article that the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Valley might not have a reunion despite unresolved finale. During Saturday,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: April twenty seventh episode of Kristin and Luke Brodrick's Balancing
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Act podcast, The couple answered a fan question about a
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: potential end of season special. We did not know if
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: we were going to have a reunion, Kristin admitted about
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the vander Pumper Will spin off series. I'm going to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. Kristin wanted to address certain moments
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: that have yet to play out on screen, saying, I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: do feel like when you see the finale, there are
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: some things left unanswered and unresolved. I feel like I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: have to have a reunion.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Why would that doesn't make sense to me. I can't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: imagine they wouldn't have a reunion. I mean, why wouldn't they?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I also am a little bit curious because this is
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a confusing thing to me. You and I and me
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and Tamra are not allowed to speak about Orange County, right,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that is a rule. Why can the entire cast of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules in the Valley have their own podcast
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: discussing the shows that they are on?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: You know, I do not know. I do not understand that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I have always thought the same thing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I don't make it make sense to me because I'm like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: they are recapping these episodes.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Because I'm going to have to listen to you recap
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Orange County with someone else about me. I can't wait.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I know it's very start being nicer to you now
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: you might want to start being nicer to me because
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I know you've been cut a little bit of a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: shit show from time to time. I definitely can be.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I definitely can be.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I know, I wonder who I'm going to recap Orange
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: County with this year. It's it's really going to be.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Are you and tarm are going to put me in
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a tricky situation where I'm gonna have to pick who
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I agree with you?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: No, I don't care. You can say whatever you want.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I won't get mad. I mean, maybe just like a
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: little but so lunch cha just a little, but like
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, uh huh, it'll be fine.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope there's a reunion. I do want to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: see it. The Valley's Jesse Lally steps out with a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: stunning new girlfriend, Lacey, just days after a strange wife, Michelle,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was accused of having a secret boyfriend on this Daily
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Male article here. While the couple have been trying to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: keep their romance out of the spotlight, they finally made
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they finally like we just found out, made their red
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Carpet Day You on Saturday at Sparkled Drag Spectacular at
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the Comedy Chateau in Hollywood. Lacey is based in Orange
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: County and is a well known socialite.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Did you know her? Oh wait, what's her last name?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I think I do know who.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: She's Lacey Nicole.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know what. I don't know her personally, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I think she's one of those girls that's always in
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: the photos with I don't know, like all the Orange
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: County girls, Like I don't know, I gotta go not
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: like but not house like me, not like not like housewife,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: not housewives, but like the selling OC girls or who No,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: just like I don't know, just like I feel like
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: there's girls in Orange County that always I don't.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Know, like Instagram models, Yeah, like.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: The Instagram Orange County girls. Like I feel like I've
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: seen her.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And like, what is an Orange County socialite? Like I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: think socialite, I like go back to like Tinsley Mortimer
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: in New York And but like, I what I think
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that's a requirement to be an Orange County socialite.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Hark mentions no char no job, hair, hair extensions. It's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: a lot a lot of Instagram photos of everywhere that
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you've been with your broken okay bike, you and your
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Berken on a travel vlog, and then you throw in
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a couple charity events in there and call yourself a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: philanthropist and it's all good, perfect, well perfect.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll see more of Lacey. Oh. She is
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: friends with several BRA celebrities, including Gretchen Rossy and Caroline Stanberry. However,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: despite her blonde, bombshell looks and tic social life, Lacy
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: has no plans to follow Jesse into the world of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: reality television.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, shit, exactly.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: You saw him and you were like, you know what, Yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: this seems like a quality person for me. I had
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: no interest in being on television, but I do have
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: interest on being a socialite on my social media. The
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: source also insisted there's no bad blood between Lacy and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Jesse's a strange wife fro Michelle. Of course, there is
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: that Michelle hates him.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how does she love? So does she know Michelle?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: She loves Michelle and thinks she's great. There's no issues
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: from her end. What does that mean?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I think they're just they must all hang out or
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: co parent or who knows what? Did you also see
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the Insta story that Jesse posted, or he's.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Get the working out, the.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Working out and he's like, since La La can't set
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: have small shoulders, and it's like him doing this move
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: and then it says like, by the way, the average
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: mail is five to six and I'm at least five ten.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Or I was like, first of all, there is no
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: way that the average mail is five to six.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: We need to actually can someone let us know that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: That can't because Shane is five p seventy. You're not
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: telling me that his height is above average. There is
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: no effing way.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for him to find out that information.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Oh five nine, that makes more sense.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Five nine in the US?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Oh well, what country was he googling?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Jesse? If you're gonna put it on Instagram, at least
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: be kind of rite about it, like the yeah, yeah yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Then Sandoval open up opens up about his new girlfriend
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: on the vander Pump Rules after show. He talks about
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Victoria Lee Robinson at the waterfront there were those girls
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and we were talking about the table, referencing the chat
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: he and Tom Schwartz had with the group at the bar.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: They stayed in contact, and he says pretty much every
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: nice thing you could say about somebody that you're dating.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Is she does she light up the room when she
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: walks in? Yeah, okay there.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And she also briefly dated Leonardo DiCaprio. He didn't brush
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: over that question, he was happy to answer it. My
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: favorite part of this after you Know, after this video
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: was Jack's and Tom's faces. Tom Schwartz's face during it,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: like both of them are like like for them to
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: know this is not great. It's pretty funny.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Also included in the after show, they talk about the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: trademark of Something about Her being owned by Penny and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: her husband, who is an attorney, which poses some serious problems.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Brock also compares Schwartz and Sandival's troubles opening Schwartz and
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Sandy's and Tom running off to be with his band Tikitty,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and Ariana's troubles opening something about her with Ariana running
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: off to New York. I actually thought this was really
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: interesting because even in the episode for vander Pump, which
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: we get into, they make it as if Penny is
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: just like they just reached out to her for like consulting,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: but clearly it's way more in depth than they let on.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Which I think is why Katie was unable to really
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: share anything with us about this, and Penny did all
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of lvp's menus at all of her restaurants. So how
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: much does this mean that Penny is really involved? What's
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: at stake, what's going to happen from here? And also
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: how much say it does did LVP then have in
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: something about her?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Right? Well? And also I have to give Brock credit.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Didn't he say that he pulled the permit and this
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: is how he got this information.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: He goes, you can look up the trademark. Just go
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: to the trademark website.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: You can check it out.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: You search the website. I was like Brock, Brock had
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Of free time. That's what happens when Brock doesn't have
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a job.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Rock has been kind of the person that's giving us
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the information throughout this season, Like he's he's leaked a
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: couple things, and I think, you know what, he was
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: ready to go ahead and leak Penny's real position at
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: something about her and then even came up with some
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: new names for something about her that they could utilize.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: But it is opening May twenty second, so congratulations to them.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Do we think it's really actually opening May twenty second.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's got to be. I mean, I said
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: on watch What Happens Live last night, Yeah, that's true.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I feel like it has to I wonder how much
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: pity is involved though, Now I want to know, like,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: is she not involved at all anymore? Did they cut
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: her out completely? Does she just own part of the trademark?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Does she is she considered a partner? Is she just
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a consultant? How does the husband fit in?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing this is I this is a total guess.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I have no there's no source that told me nothing.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: It's just my gut instinct is assuming they had to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: pay her off in some capacity to go away, that's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: my guess. Could be wrong. Let's get into the actual episode.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Starts off with Katie and Arianna arrive at something about
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: her and meet up with Anne.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Anne.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to figure out what to do with
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: the awning. Arianna thought they would be opening up something
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: about her by now. I wish instead of this whole
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: scene and we were just hearing about the Penny drama,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: because that's the interesting part.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You don't want to know if what they should do
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: with the awning, Like you're not interested in whether they
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: should call the company, or the company should pick it up,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: or they should just move it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Or no, I don't give two shits about the honting.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I want to know, but like, are you gonna have
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to change the name about something about her? Like we
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: need to know the actual real drama of what is
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: happening and why this is not going forward? And also
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see and pretend working there. When
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: we found out on Watch What Happens Live last night
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: she's had to take an interim.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Job because they didn't open.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: They didn't open.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Sheen arrives at Kyle Chan's business to learn more about
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: his event and the performance she is doing. Tom Santoval
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: arrives and Seena doesn't look happy, barely saying Hi, Tom
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: isn't performing at the event, but he's there just to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: help manage everything. Tom says Kyle has really been there
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: for him and he will do anything to help Kyle.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: He gets emotional and says he owes Kyle a lot.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I actually found him to be likable again in that moment.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry if that's a non popular opinion.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: But why this is? I love that that's what you
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: got from this. But what I thought was why do
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like Kyle Chan has more promotion than Schwartz
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and Sandy's on the show, like who what Bravo has
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: made Kyle Chan happen? And like he, I mean, he's
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: everywhere and I have we even seen shorts And Sandy's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like once yeah, Like Tom's why are you promoting.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Your palet of your own place.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Instead of your own place? Ever? Like do you hate
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: your own place? Like why are you not talking about it?
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Then Katie at Lala's house, they're talking about how they
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: hope Sandoval doesn't think he is invited tonight. Lala decides
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to call him. He answers the FaceTime. He's, of course,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: with Kyle Chan with Sheena. Lala says it's weird to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: see them together. Tom uses a metaphor, saying they are
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: regluing the pottery that broke. I was like, is that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: is he making a reference to the penis that he
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: cracked or whatever that was a penis?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: S oh, I don't know. I didn't even think about that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I just thought he was trying to be deep, you
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: know how like he tries to make very deep statements,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: like you know, like he's so deep because he journals
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: and he's just a deep guy.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Are you in love with him? No?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Testing, I was actually I was actually being facetious when
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I was saying that.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Really, thank you, You're welcome. Laala then ask if they
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: cannot reglue the pottery at her Big three three. Tom
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: says he wasn't invited and wasn't planning on coming. He
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: says happy birthday, and Laala tells him she felt like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: he deserved the FaceTime.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Wait, can we just go back for it? Why is
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: he not invited? I mean he's been invited to every
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: other group events, so why not La LA's thirty third birthday?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking because at this point, you know, I think
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Laala went in hard for Ariana at the beginning, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: then her and Katie started having issues. And I think
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing now playing out in social media is
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: she is now at the tides of turn. So even
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: though at first people were really mad at Ariana, now
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: people are starting to get mad at Laala.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: So you think she made a conscious decision not to
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: invite him because she was getting some backlash.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think the backlash had come yet, but
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I think she started to realize Okay.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's been too open that maybe she's been too forgiving.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the wind has blown to the part of
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: where I need to backpedal a little bit, backpedal a touch.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: But then Lala and Katie head into the venue for
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: her birthday and everyone begins to arrive. Lala says she's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: getting more badass every year her birthday. Wishes to rule
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the world, have a positive pregnanty test, and win the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: custody battle. She explained she told Sandoval not to come.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: She asked, you know why she was with him, and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: she explains it was Kyle's. She talks about her and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Sandoval's conversation and how but they both miss each other
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and want to move forward. I'm not I mean, I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: guess I don't have any straight male friends, but I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: couldn't imagine miss missing like a guy friend this much
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: if I was in a relationship with another man.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought the same thing. Especially, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: mean I'm jumping ahead, but especially at the end. They
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: have another conversation and then they have like the world's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: longest hug hug. I was like, man, Shane would be like, okay,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Like that's not like you know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You know, when you get a hug in the person
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: that you're hugging goes a little too long, so you
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: like tap it out, like almost like wrestling, like we're good,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: You're finished.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for one of them to tap out,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: like I was like, is there are they on? Like
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: are they trying to win? Like? What is that? What
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: is that thing? You do the most of the highest
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: number Gunnis book for the longest hug ever? Yeah, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: was like, this has gotten so awkward. There must be
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a producer with like a timer and he's like, you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: almost made it. Yeah, seconds the reigning champions.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's odd. It's odd to me just
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: because Shane wouldn't be having that, nor would I hug
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: a street man for that long out of respect for
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: my husband. Correct.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Then Area looks disgusted and says pathetic. Ariana feels like
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: she's being gas lit and remind Sena he continues to
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: treat her like shit. She says, he ain't your friend, babe.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: The only thing that kind of confuses me about Sena
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: missing Sandoval is her writing these lyrics and her song apples.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Are you ready to hear the lyrics? Yeah, let's hear
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it type these bad boys out, narcissistic psycho. Cut you
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: out like light bow, see you right through with my
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: eyes closed, from a Ferrari to a Jetta. Thought you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: knew Betta through it out the window. I thought you
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: were faithful. I see you a snake though. I hope
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: there's a place for friends like you. You missed this
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: person that you talked to, Like listen, you may give
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: each other a hard time, but I ain't calling you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: any of these names.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I yeah, that was a lot. I like
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: how she says the song wasn't really written about him.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: She just added that line and later, oh about it
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: was just one line. Don't worry about Santival. It was
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: just one line at the end. It's not a big deal.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: That's too good. Sheena and Brock at their apartment packing
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: for San Francisco. Uh Ariana and Dan head to dinner.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Ariana and Dan?
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's my thoughts. I felt like the dinner was
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: super awkward and forced. But then I also try to
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: realize that he's probably not used to filming. It's their
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: first time in a long time being together face to face,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: so maybe the awkwardness was just the cameras, but I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: didn't feel a lot of chemistry between the two of them.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And I also couldn't figure out why he went to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: San Francisco when he literally didn't go anywhere with her,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: But and then I also was confused when they said,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: this is our first time flying together. But I was like,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like, I've seen you guys on all these trips.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Are you jogging there or are they meeting? I don't know.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not that I felt like they
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: didn't have chemistry. It almost feels like to me, they're
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: still like you know, when you first get I mean,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not this way, but there are human beings that
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: when they're first getting to know each other, they like
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: put their best face forward.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And they're just they're giddy and awkward.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what's happening. I think they're like
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: crushing on each other, but they're not in that full
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: comfortable spot yet. But I could be wrong.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: But then, I mean, I felt like there wasn't a
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: lot of chemistry. I felt like it was kind of awkward.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: But then again, I do realize that they are still
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: together now, so clearly they have feelings for one another
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: or would have lasted this long.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Well, last night she on Watch What Happens Live. She
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: had to play a game where she had to pick
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: what she would rather do, hang out with Sandoval or
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: do all of these other terrible things. And I was like,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: this must be fun for Dan to watch. She's probably
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: really loving it because a couple of times she had
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to pick Sandoval. The other option was so terrible.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Like what getting eaten by a shark or something, and
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: we're hanging out with Sandoval.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I think it was like having sex with Jack's. Now
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: maybe she actually chows jack I can't remember exactly what
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: it was, but they were they weren't great.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, let me ask you. If you had to
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: choose between Jack's or Tom Sandival to have sex with,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: which one would it be? Tom Sandoval? Okay?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I yeah, especially after watching
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Jackson with the intimacy breathing, I was like.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Jack's always seems sweaty to me. He just always seems moist.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, please, you I feel about that work.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: That's why I said it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Then Shorts, Sandoval's mom and James meet Santoval backstage. Sandoval
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: says it feels so good to perform and see everyone
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: letting loose shorts and Joe head outside. He asks how
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: many guys she's banging. Joe shoves him. Things have just
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: been awkward since their conversation on the couch. Tom says
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: it felt weird without her since they took a break,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to send mixed Joe says he
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: gives her whiplash.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: What do you think of their Do you think they
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: have chemistry? I feel like they have this weird, odd chemistry.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I mean I find them like so awkward that that
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: conversation outside was so awkward.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, entertaining, Yeah, I mean it's entertaining. I don't know
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: if it's that they haven't shared exactly what has gone
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: on between them, so they're trying to cover up stuff.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: So it's more awkward, you know what I mean, Like there's.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're trying to talk around things instead of
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: just talking about it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, instead of giving us all the tea, they've just
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: spilt little droplets of like the tea bag, and it's
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: not making sense. So then it just comes off really
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: awkward because they're both fimming right what I feel like?
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know she was. She was all
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: refed up. Then they go to the airport. Lalla doesn't
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: get Dan's attraction to Ariana, who just left a man
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: of ten years. Everyone boards the plate and heads to
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: San Francisco. Sandoval says he would like to meet Dan,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but he's going to leave everyone alone. You see when
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Sandoval walks onto the plane, Dan's like eating a sandwich
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and he's like says something and they like pause on
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: like him. But what it? I mean most of the time,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I can kind of understand what Lala's saying. I I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: think I fully understand what Dan's attraction is to Ariana.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Every guy wants to know say it. Oh, every guy
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: wants to be the hero. Is that what he is? Yeah?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Every guy wants to be the hero that sweeps you
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: off your feet, that makes everything better.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And the good guy.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: She had the bad guy. Now he gets to come
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: in and be the good guy.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I do feel like Lala had to change a heart
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: though when she saw him come out of the shower.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Though I could say I would say that I personally
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: didn't think one way or the other. I mean, I
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: thought Dan was a good looking guy, but I didn't
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: really think that he was super hot until he let
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: his hair down and he didn't have a shirt on.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: His hair was so long and he had no shirt on.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, hello, Dan, I.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Wasn't ready for it to be longer than like my
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: longest hair extensions.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: They were like, no, his is real. He doesn't have
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: extensions in Yeah, I know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: But I think they both. I don't know. My guess
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: isn't isn't Dan moving out here to live with Ariana?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Well, for them, it's someone's got to move, and it's
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: gonna be Dan. She's not gonna leave La.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, true, true, true, true. Then they arrive on the boat.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Brock asked Ariana if the ride was awkward, and Ariana
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: says he was just scenery that she didn't notice. Brock
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: asked Ariana f Brock's doing his work. Brock then asked
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: arian It if she ever sees herself moving forward. Arianna
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: asked for whose benefit in Brock says his wife.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: No, the answer is for your own benefit. That's the
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: correct answer.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Brock, I don't think you get to ask
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: for an example. I don't know. I just I don't
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: think when there's been allegations about like just stop stop.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: This is where you probably should have left it. Brock.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the conversation was good in the beginning,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: and I think his intent was good, and I liked
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: what he had to say, But he shouldn't have brought
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Shena into it. It should have been about concern for Ariana,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: and that's where you should have left it. And so
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: when she said for whose benefit, he should have just
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: said for you, for you to have peace, for you
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to move on, for you to feel better, for you
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to be happier, et cetera, than bringing Sena into it, it
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: just went.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And also, let's be really clear, whatever issues Brock and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Sheena are having really don't have anything to do with
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Tom Sanderbal at this point.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: No, because the hug, the awkward hug, has not happened yet.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. Then they're going to the Roaring
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Twenties party Shena facetimes Brock and he's down the street
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: getting his hair cut to match the theme better. Lalla
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: goes into Ariana's room, We see the hair, blah blah blah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Then uh, what else even exciting at this point happened?
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Ariana and Sandval have the same shoes.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: On yeah, but what do you think the reason is
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: that Dan doesn't go to the party with Ariana, Like,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: do you think there's more to it? Do you think
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: he's trying to avoid being on camera too much, or.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's trying to avoid confrontation with Sandoval so he's
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: able to do it like in a controlled setting like
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: an airplane, but if they're drinking in cameras and whatever involved,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: like maybe he doesn't want to do that. But also
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: them all showing up in full twenties outfits to a
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: regular restaurant with everybody dressed in regular clothing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I know, I know that didn't make sense to me.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I thought, couldn't you have at least ordered some twenties themes,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: something off of Amazon and like throw it on the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: tables or something. There is no decor that had anything
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: to do with this theme.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: But my favorite part of this episode was the conversation
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: between Katie and Force where they're talking about and I
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: thought he was gonna say bang, but he just said,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like we can go back order snacks, lay on our phone,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and last night and watching What Happens Live, she goes listen.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I would have been more prone to probably bang him,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: but to lay and do nothing with somebody is way
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: more intimate, And I was like, that's kind of a
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: good point.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: But they are they are vibing each other a little bit.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Did I sound really young when I said vibing?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah? You know what Annabel says, Now, have you heard this?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: She says, yes, I was just gonna say that. What
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: is that? I just heard it. She was like, yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: they he was rizzing on me or something. I'm like,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about? She goes, you know, like charisma,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: but we say riz. I was like, I can't.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And then I can't. I spelled wiz wrong to slay
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and she was like, mom, it is not whatever I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: wrote like aris.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Still I'm like, oh, is it disease?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever way I spelled it was incorrectly. I was like, sorry,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about the charisma arma. But then it
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: kind of ends with Shena bringing up the idea of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Tom apologizing for bringing up aspects of ariana his mental
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: health that she didn't want public. This was a very
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: good point that she brought up. He did not need
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to do that. He tried to make the affair seem
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like he had to do it because of her mental state,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: or he had to stay with her because if he wouldn't,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: she threatened to commit suicide, like all of those things.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: And then Tom says, I love you, Shena, and thanks
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: for being there for me.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: But let me ask the question, though, because I did
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: enjoy this conversation and I thought Shina was very articulate
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: in it. But do you think that she initiated that
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: conversation because that's something that's been bothering her? Because I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: feel why she's talking on behalf of Arianna and Arianna's
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: mental health. So is this something that Arianna has said
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that bothered her but she just can't say it's the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Tom because she's not talking to him, or do you
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: think it's something production had? Sheena say, I just felt
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: like it was a heavy subject for her to just
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: bring up off the top of her head.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe because Sheena herself is struggling with her own postpartum
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: OCD anxiety, those types of things she might be more
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: aware of. It's one thing for you to control your
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: own narrative and talk about how your mental health is feeling,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: but it's another for somebody else to throw it in
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: your face and use it to weaponize you. So it
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: could have just been I mean, I think Shena, even
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: though they make her, you know, appear to be very
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: self absorbed, I think that she has a good heart,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: and I think when you look back at the time,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: that is really the biggest issue.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: So you think that that was something that weighed heavily
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and that she felt like she had to talk to
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the Sandoval about that and bring that up. Yeah, okay, but.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I mean Arianna could have also said it to her, like.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wondered if maybe there was a conversation
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: that we weren't privy to where she brought that up
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: and then and then that's why she had brought it
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: up to Tom.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: All Right, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and talk about the Valley. Episode seven. All right, we
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: are back. We're at the hair Loss Party fight. I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: love the it's called the hair loss party. Yeah, the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: hair loss Party fight. At least it's not like New Beginnings, oh,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: new Follicles.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: It's the New Beginnings Party. Oh my god, the New Beginning.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Well. I was actually surprised they all came back in
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: that room except for Kristen and Luke. I didn't think
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that was actually going to happen at the end of
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that fight.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because Michelle demanded that everyone reconvene.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And why is some people listening to Michelle other than
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: she like her? Some of those words that Sina used
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in Apples could also be used for Michelle from what
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I don't know, I don't
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like, why does everyone listen?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like why does everyone? Why does she get to pick?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: But she asked the.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Room if anybody said that. Jesse said he was going
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: to leave Michelle in two months. Jesse says, if anybody
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: is divorcing anybody, it's Michelle divorcing him. Michelle and Janet
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: say Kristin shouldn't be invited around the group anymore.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, I felt badly for Kristen. I feel badly for her.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like she has such a scapegoat in this
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: entire situation.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Like also, you can't ice out the ice cube tray,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: like we need her in order to keep this all going,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Like y'all wouldn't have a show if it wasn't for
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Kristin keeping this shit together. And also it really was.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Jack's even said in his confessional, He's like, I wrap
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: this up nasty great, you know, like I got it.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: That's yeahactly. That's the part I don't understand is everyone
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: else has dirty hands as well, Like Janet's clearly talking crap,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: and Jasmine and Jack's are clearly talking crap. And Jacks
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: even wanted Jasmine to go get more information to bring
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: back to him so that he could drop a bomb.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: But everybody's mad at Kristin.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Unlike the only people that I think are nice enough
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: on this cast to not say anything about the situation
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: are Nia, Danny and Brittany. I think they would have
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: just kept their mouths shut. I mean, Brittany said I
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say nothing, and she But Brittany, here's the thing
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Brittany does know and her relationship is we're starting to
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: see the breaks in that she still isn't throwing somebody
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: else under the bus to try to disguise it, which
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: clearly that's what Jackson is doing exactly.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: But then to explain again why Kristin is the bad
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: guy in all of this and why they're trying to
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: ice her out, because we all know what happens on
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: a show when you ice someone out, Like the purpose
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: is so that they're not on the show anymore.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Show anymore. Well, this is my one note to Kristen.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: When you're going to deliver information, you just can't mess
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: up a word, especially every time, yes, every time, like
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: we give you one get out of jail free card.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to deliver a key thing, make
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: sure it's accurate because then.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Because wiggle room, everybody, yeah, they can wiggle out of it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm telling you. I did that last year.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I messed up something that Heather said and I didn't
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: think it was that big a deal, but then I
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: realized it gave her a loophole to say. I didn't
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: say that. That's not right, you're wrong, you're crazy. You
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. And I knew exactly
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: what I was talking about. I just messed it up
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So you're to be very clear with your delivery, and
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: if that means have one less alcoholic beverage before you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: deliver heartbreaking news to someone, you should.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Or or use Q cards, no cards, memorize that there
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: might write it down.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: You know, shell divorcing Jesse, that's the part you.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Missed, right, And maybe practice it with Luke first.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: But also the fact once I know we're skipping ahead, Well, one,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: why is Luke wearing the same T shirt this entire episode?
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Why Whiskey? What did it say? Like Whiskey makes it
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: better with red T shirt? No matter what he was filming,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: what he was doing, he was in that Whiskey shirt
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and it was a lot for me. But what I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: didn't really realize until we panned forward to that conversation
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was that this information about the divorce came from Luke.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I thought, yes, because Luke's like, that's not really what
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I shaid I should But I thought she knew this
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: from Michelle and messed it up. But no, she actually
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: only knows the stuff from Michelle about the alleged cheating
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: or affair with whomever. But Luke is the one that
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: told her about the potential divorce because.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: From the Boys' Night whatever. Rad Jack says, Yeah, that's right,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: that's what she messed up. She did get that from
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Luke and she messed it up. Yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: So Luke's like, listen, I'm new to this shit, but
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I told you what to say and you put it up.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: You mess up your line, man, that it's on you.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: But what about when?
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So Michelle comes in and she's I got to try
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: to master the face.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: But it's like, oh, is this after the hike in
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the smoothie? Now we're on the smoothies.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, Hi, So I dropped Isabella off at
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: school and then I stopped and got us smoothies. I
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: thought that smoothies would be a great thing for us today.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I thought. I was like, smoothies would smooth things over.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: And then like there's zero expression in her face, there's
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: zero like inflection in the voice. All I can see
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: is the hatred she feels towards Jesse.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Jesse thinks palpable.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: It's Jesse's like, I think this is actually bringing us
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: together and I'm so glad you knew I wasn't divorcing you.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: And she's like, of course I knew that because I'm
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: cheating on you. You don't fucking idiot.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: And everybody knows about it and accept you.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And everyone knows on this show, and this is why
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: we will get a second season with our new significant others.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: But this is where I like Jesse. And Jesse's confessional,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: he talks about his commitment and that you fight for
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: it and blah blah, blah, Like.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the question. Did we misjudge Jesse from the beginning?
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I feel slightly guilty about maybe calling him a douche lord.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a douche lord. But I
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: do think they came into this with a lot of
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: marital problems and he didn't know how to decipher through them.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: So if she was sleeping with Michael Bay allegedly or
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: whatever was happening, or she did have this boyfriend or
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: this person she was texting, whatever the secret is, I
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: think he knows what the secret is, and they sucked
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: up the secret and decided they were going to come
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: in and film and try to get through it and
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: work it out. And he's realizing through filming, like she
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: hates my guts, right, I mean, I think he alludes
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: to that in the confessional. But now I'm curious, you
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: know how sag after I did a thing where like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you can't hire AI to write scripts and stuff. Do
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: you think you can hire AI to be in reality
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: television shows? And maybe that is what Michelle is just
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: say Ai, Yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: It could be, because there's there's not a lot of
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: emotion there.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's who But when he said he noticed
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Michelle is starting to put her phone face down when
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: they're together.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's not posting on Instagram. Okay, what he
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: says she's not posting is that because she says she's
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: going out to drink some friends, but she's not going
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: out to drinks with and she's really messing around with
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: as a guy. And that's why she's not posting anything.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, because what is she going to do? Posts a
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: boomerang and then see Harry Knuckles and it's clear that
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: she's boomerang with a man and not with Kristen like
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: she has. You know, she's probably said I'm going out
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: with the girls. But if you're going to be present
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and off social media, then you have to stay consistent
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: with that throughout. And I don't think that's what's happening.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: So I do. I do like when he when he
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: does like the cheers with the smoothie and he's like
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: team Jesse and Michelle, and she's all, yeah, team Jesse
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: and Michelle. Yeah, cheers to uh team Jesse and Michelle.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then Janet tells Jason that Jasmine told her that
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Jax told her about the r It's one big game
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: of telephone, Janet reveals that Sheena just told her that
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Gene is in the mix. We're gonna see Shea in
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the valley soon. That there's a rumor about Jack's cheating
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: on Brittany. Janet, you may be pregnant, but that does
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: not get you excused from being called out on being messy.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: You're being messy. Her husband thinks she's messy.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Also, her unborn child isn't going to be surprised by
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a Jack's cheating rumor, like even that He's like, listen,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I heard it all by now. Yeah.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Then Kristen and Luke go to the doctor to see
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: if she's able to conceive. There's five follicles. Then Janet
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and Jason go to Jackson Brittany's. At this point, Brittany
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Jax has now turned into Michelle like Jacks is also
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: ai and enraged that Brittany is like speaking while Cruz
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: is having his therapy. I'm like, if you really wanted
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Cruz to have his therapy and be uninterrupted, maybe not
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: have entire film crew there.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know this is you can really see
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: their marriage just completely unravel. I feel like he's been
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: trying to be on his best behavior through most of
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: this filming up until now, and he's just he's reached
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: his breaking point, like he can't do it anymore.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: No, he's at this point he's in love with Laurie
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: or whatever, because he is done with this. He's done.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: He's not even faking it, like it's he's not even
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: being nice.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Then they're all kind of hanging out. Janet tells Jackson
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Jasmine told her about the Michelle rumors. Britney says, and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I believe Brittany in this moment. Maybe I am a
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: you know, naive, but when Brittany's like, you shouldn't reveal
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: that information regardless even if you did know. And then
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Jax is like you see Jax's confessional and it just
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: shows like the difference in who they are as people.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: When like Brittany will hold it close to the chest
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and like not share somebody that she really cares about,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: you know, whether she cares about them or not.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Throw their life under the bus. And Jackson is like
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: looking at it like sport right.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: And well, and she's also been his ride or die
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: and forgiven him for multitudes of things, and he clearly
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't even give her any like any what am I
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: trying to any?
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: He gives her nothing, He gives her no credit, he
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: gives her nothing, like he's not even fun with her,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Like you're so far I'm not seeing really any reason
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: why you would want to be with Jack's, especially when
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you see the way that Nia and Danny are together,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Like Nia's going through a tough time, they call Danny.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: She calls Danny's sister to talk about her postpartum. I
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: think this is an important conversation to have about medication
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: and if you know, giving your like how you want
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: to call it baby blues, right, it could be more
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: and giving yourself permission to seek help from a professional.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Then we go to the tantrics expert.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know that he had no desire
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: to go to that. He's like, I'm good because I'm
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: having sex with someone else, so really no need to
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: do this.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: But I think at that point she didn't either, because
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: did you see like he's kind of like just death
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: glaring her like he's like yeah, and she won't even
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: look at him in the eyes, like she's like and
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: then the sex where it's like how did that feel?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And She's like, all of a sudden, she's now Michelle.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, very a great, great, great.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Amazing, never better. I don't know, but it's.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. What is it? Jack says, Brittany is
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: my soulmate. I guess.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hope Edwin writes that on my
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: next I hope Edwin writes that to me on Mother's Day. Yeah,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: because you know, I guess, I here's my soulmate. I guess.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, if I had to pick one, I.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Mean compared to the rest. I mean, I know I'm
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: liking things that say should have married Stacy, but.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's right. We didn't talk about that.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: I know, how inappropriate, Like.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: That's almost as inappropriate as having sex with Laurie in
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: the back.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: It's so inappropriate, even if they're not together. It's so
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: inappropriate just for their child's sake, like just to not
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: have a certain level of respect for your the mother
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: of your child, to not like that. What's wrong with them?
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: But also this is what I really also don't understand.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: We get. Then Jack's, Luke and Jason go bowling, which
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Jax is looking a fool. But why does he care
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: about Kristin's relationship with Luke? Why does he care? Like
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around why he wants Luke
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: to see this other side of Kristen. What does he care? Well?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. And is she known? Is she actually?
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, like we talked about previously, I wouldn't say
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: she was a liar based upon what we've watched throughout
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: this season. I would say that she's a ding dom
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and that she messes stuff up, But I wouldn't say
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: she's a liar.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's intentionally trying to lie. I think
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that she always messes up the words. But Luke has
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: clearly watched vander Pump Rules because he knew right away
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: to say, well, you're a self confessed pathological liar to Jacks,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and then editors of course pants crash batting it. And
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: then Jackson is like that was ten years ago, I've
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: grown up. And then the editors are even more brilliant
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: because they're showing him say the exact thing from vander
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Pump Rules the Valley right, and I'm like, Jacks, your
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: time of being the good guy and coming after Tom
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Sandoval have now ended, and it's writ you you just
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: really wanted to be the number one guy in the group.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you find it hard to watch him
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: saying the things that he says, knowing that we know
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: now what we know now? I mean, what a do? Sure?
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Then we see Nia and Danny and Jesse and Michelle
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: meet up for sushi, and when Michelle brings up the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: topic of Kristen, Nia is like, you know what, guys,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I can't Like, my cup is already pouring over from
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: the stress that I'm under and what I'm feeling, and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: like I can't take this on. And I was like,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: good for her. I think it'll be hard if once
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: we get to next season, if she is going to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: continue removing herself from the drama. But I think for
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: now it really resonates it's appropriate for what she's going through.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I do think it's how she will navigate being on
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the show past one season. If she isn't going to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: be willing when she's feeling better to engage, I think
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: will be the riding on the.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Wall for them. Yeah, I thought the same thing. I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: don't know if Nia is just so a one season wonder,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: because you're right, she does have her own personal story,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: which is very compelling. But once you get past the
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: personal story, if she's not willing to get involved, to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: talk about other people, to gossip, to be included in it,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: then it's not gonna it's not gonna work.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do I like her confessionals with Danny
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: when they're talking about the house or they're trying to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: decide where Valencia is when they're talking about budget, like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: all that. I enjoy them, But either Danny or Nia,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: one of them is going to have to get messy,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: has to get messy after this this season.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: No, let's they get a hall pass.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: You get a hall pass. But then Janet and Jason watchcrews.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: So Brittany and Jack's gonna have a date night. The
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: fact that these two know nothing about children but are
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: about to have a child is also interesting to me.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, and we didn't even talk about like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: the risk and the risk benefit of picking the like
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: you should just never pick it up, Like.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Why would you want to hold a kid when there's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: a blank chance of falling? And Luke tells Kristen that
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the group is afraid to be is afraid to be
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: around her and Kristen's just like okay. At this point,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's like, Luke, quit trying to produce me.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this show for years. I know how
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: to be a mess. I'm sorry, Like, let me do
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: my thing like you do your thing. I'll do mine.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Stick it in and get me pregnant and let's keep
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: it going.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Right, like I brought you out here to get me pregnant,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: not to lecture me.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Not to lecture me on how to say that you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: know Michelle was going to divorce Jesse, not vice versa.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Do you let me ask you a question though? Do
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: you think that Michelle is very anti Kristen. Kristen shouldn't
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: be around. Nobody shouldn't like Kristen because Kristen is the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: one who knows this information. So if she just consistently
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Paintsen is a liar or as a bad guys, and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: then she's able to kind of have one more week
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: without anyone knowing the secret. Yet.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she knows that. I think Michelle is
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: like a master manipulator, so I think she knows that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Janet doesn't fully know the information, Jasmine doesn't fully know
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: the information, and she knows Britney. Brittany has also confided
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: in her in some extent, so I think she knows
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Britney's not going to say anything. Jacks is trying to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: get the information but doesn't have it all and so
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: her only threat is Kristin, and she's learning that Kristin
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: can be a loose cannon.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: So she's working hard to make Kristen look like the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: nut that needs to remove from the tree.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's as we watch more and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: as we see what's happening now, like I mean clearly,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think she thought she was going to
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: be able to manipulate the audience to think that Jesse
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: was horrible and she's a saint, and she did at first.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was totally like te Michelle from the beginning.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: And I even thought that she kind of had that
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: very stoic I guess you would say AI kind of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: personality because of him, But now I don't think that's true.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's true either. I think he
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: was acting douey because of her at that point, Like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't trust all of this, But
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: then we get into the next douchey situation. Jack's and
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Brittney's date night, which once again is at the Madrion.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so they must have some deal for free
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: shit at the mandre On, because why else would you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: want to go have room service but like cooked in
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: the room at the Mandrion.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: And I also, it didn't seem like either one of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: them took it seriously because he has like a T
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: shirt on, and I mean, she looks cute, but like
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: for a date night that she's been wanting to happen,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Like she has her glasses on and she's not. Like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just felt like neither of them
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: really was interested in being there.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: No, I feel like maybe this was like a pickup.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: It just something didn't feel whatever, Like even when he
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: said you can't be upset, No, you can't be upset
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: about that. No, you can't do that, I was like,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: actually she can be, And like, why why are we
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: panning to these conversations that are just feel I don't know.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Brittany thinks he's shaming her about parenting. Jack says his
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: job allows him to leave the house. Brittany thought they
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: were running the bar together. Brittany says, but don't you
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: even do anything? I do everything. This is where Jack's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: loses it, because once you push a narcissist and they
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: feel like somebody can see behind the veil, then they're
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: going to start striking back even harder. And then they
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: you know, then money conversation starts getting involved. You realize
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: they both put the same amount of money into their home. Right,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: more confusing why Brittany's the one that had to leave
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: just that's how much she's like, get a way for me,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Jack's right, but Jax walks off. But I think the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: biggest part, the biggest takeaway from me and this conversation
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: is realizing how little Jax really has to do with
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Jack's the bar, right, it is infuriating her because it's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: not a something about her or a Schwartz and Sandy situation.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Like this is an existing place that already exists and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: is very popular called Rocos. There is a little subdivision
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: on the side that'll be called Jax's that already is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: being run by the existing people of the popular place Rocos.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: So do you think they reached out to him or
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: he reached out to them and just said, hey, why
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: don't we just do something together?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: I think either way, my guess is he gets like
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: a percentage of the sales on the nights that he's there,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. But I think her disgust
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: is coming from the fact of, like, it's not a.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Full time job. It's not like you put together this
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: whole bar and you created it and you're there every
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: day and you're meeting with architects and things like that.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Like that, it's unfathomable for us to believe as like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: him creating whatever they put into the men's hair growth
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: line that he was promoting.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Like like that that he put that together like in
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: a chemistry lab, like yeah it got and he's like.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's just like dude, yes, I'm happy that
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: we have this other opportunity, but you can't act like
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: this is your baby that you've built from the ground up,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: like I hope it's successful, but like the priority should
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: be me and our kids, because you you showing up
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: and parting with people and bringing in more sales, like
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: that's great, but it's you're it's not.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: It's not a full time job. Yeah, And so the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: whole conversation about the second child, how she was saying,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: I thought we were on the same page. I thought
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: we were gonna, you know, work on a having a
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: second child. All I can think is how he's probably
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: backed out of that because he's with somebody else. Yeah,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I mean I wonder he doesn't he doesn't want to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: have a second kid? Are you kidding?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: But that's why I'm wondering, do you think? And I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: know there's no way we can prove this or not.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Member cameras came back up. I'm hungering, yes, okay, once
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: she moved out, I'm wondering if this is a pickup scene,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: if this date really happened in real time, or if
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: this is a pickup because.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Well, there's just no chemistry there, and there's a lot
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: there's just a lot of tension between the two of them.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you never normally feel that with her.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: No, and again, and she didn't put, she didn't put. Well,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: she was talking about how she wants to feel sexy
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: and she wants to feel beautiful, and she wants Jack
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: to make her feel sexy and beautiful and launderie and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff. And they have this date
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: night with flowers and roses and sushi, and she just
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: she doesn't she didn't dress the part. Now I'm not
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: saying that she should have, but based upon prior's statements
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: that she had made, she just to.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Wear night and heels and doing right.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: She said, ale those things. But then like they show
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: up for this date night and she just has'tail.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: She like, one, YEA, let's do this thing. Let's pretend
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: this one date, let's have So I feel like that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: fight had already happened. I think that fight actually did happen.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I just think we may have seen it happen the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: second time, right, so who knows, But it did make
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: me sad, like that that ever happened at all. Like
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I just you know, you want to believe even when
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: people are assholes, that like they're going to change, and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: you want to believe that having a family or when
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: they come for other people that they'll see the light.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: But you see in this moment like he hasn't changed.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: No, I feel badly for her. She's so sweet. I mean,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: she she deserves better. So team Brittany.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Team Brittany Jackson, we love watching you on television, but
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: as a human being.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: We really appreciate right now.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she is a good mother. So all right,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: you guys, let us know your thoughts and uh, we'll
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: keep you posted next week about what we find out.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: It's a finale of Vander Pomparules next week.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Oh that's exciting all right, guys, thanks for listening.