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The Night Alaska's Most Prolific Serial Killer Was Caught · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: So I want you to imagine standing in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a massive sprawling city.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Like a major metropolitan area.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And it is three o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But when you look up, the sun is actually shining
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  Speaker 1: brightly in this pale, almost, you know, twilight sky.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You are wide awake and people are out walking their dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Bikes are cruising down the trails.
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  Speaker 2: It's three in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And it feels incredibly safe. But then... You hear
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  Speaker 1: a gunshot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Now, normally a gunshot in a city sparks this immediate
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  Speaker 1: hyper-focused panic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. I mean, the police swarm the area.
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  Speaker 1: The news vans arrive. The community demands answers. But what
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  Speaker 1: if that gunshot happened in a city where 40 to
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  Speaker 1: 60 round shootouts were just happening on a weekly basis?
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  Speaker 2: That is a staggering amount of violence.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And what if the baseline for that violence
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  Speaker 1: was so incredibly loud, so deeply chaotic, That a single
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  Speaker 1: methodical execution just like blended perfectly into the background noise.
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  Speaker 2: It completely reframes how we think about a predator hiding,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does.
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  Speaker 2: Because we always picture a killer lurking in the shadows,
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  Speaker 2: you know, waiting for the dark, relying on actual visual concealment.
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  Speaker 1: Like a guy in an alleyway.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But what we were analyzing today from our sources... Specifically,
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  Speaker 2: this really detailed breakdown of the 2016 Anchorage, Alaska murders
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  Speaker 2: by the YouTube channel Beyond Evil. It's a terrifying masterclass
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  Speaker 2: in something entirely different.
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  Speaker 1: Which is just wild to think about. It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's on concept called Statistical Camouflage.
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  Speaker 1: Statistical Camouflage. Okay, let's unpack this for a second. Because
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening to this right now, you probably associate
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  Speaker 1: hiding with physical things.
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  Speaker 2: Right, like a ghillie suit or a ski mask.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. But in this deep dive into the Anchorage source material...
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  Speaker 1: We are looking at how a predator can operate in
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  Speaker 1: broad daylight in public parks, not by being invisible, but
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  Speaker 1: by perfectly matching the data points of a city that
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  Speaker 1: is currently tearing itself apart.
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  Speaker 2: It's terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: Our mission today is to really figure out how environmental
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  Speaker 1: extremes and this severe systemic strain basically create the ultimate
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  Speaker 1: blind spot.
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  Speaker 2: And to really understand that blind spot, you have to
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  Speaker 2: understand the laboratory where the this perfect storm took place.
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  Speaker 1: Anchorage.
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  Speaker 2: Anchorage, Alaska, in the summer of 2016. And if you've
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  Speaker 2: never been there, you kind of have to strip away
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  Speaker 2: your preconceived notions of what a city actually looks like.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally unique, isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: It is a geographical and demographic anomaly. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: holds roughly 40% of the entire state's population.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, 40%. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And to put the physical scale into perspective, the metropolitan
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  Speaker 2: area is larger than the entire state of Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 1: That is just massive.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fourth largest U.S. metro area by landmass, I think.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And just to really hammer home how vast and isolated
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  Speaker 1: this place is, more people live in Anchorage than in
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  Speaker 1: all of northern Canada and Greenland combined.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So it's essentially this modern frontier. You have the skyscrapers,
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  Speaker 2: the coffee shops, you know, the dense infrastructure of a
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  Speaker 2: major city in the lower 48. But it is completely
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  Speaker 2: surrounded by some of the most unforgiving, expansive wilderness on
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  Speaker 2: the planet.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a crazy juxtaposition. It is.
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  Speaker 2: And then... You introduce the most defining characteristic of the region,
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  Speaker 2: like the environmental factor that changes the entire psychology of
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  Speaker 2: the city.
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  Speaker 1: The light.
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  Speaker 2: The light, yes. By late June and early July of 2016,
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  Speaker 2: Anchorage was experiencing 22 hours of functional daylight.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, stop right there. Because 22 hours of daylight
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  Speaker 1: doesn't just mean, like, You need thicker curtains in your bedroom.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: It fundamentally alters human biology, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Completely. I mean, think about how your own body regulates itself.
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  Speaker 2: Your circadian rhythm is tied heavily to the setting of
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  Speaker 2: the sun. Right.
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  Speaker 1: The sun goes down, you get tired.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. When it gets dark, your brain produces melatonin. You
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  Speaker 2: feel tired. You go home. You go to sleep. Society
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  Speaker 2: shuts down.
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  Speaker 1: But in Anchorage during the summer?
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  Speaker 2: That environmental cue just vanishes. People are pushed to their
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  Speaker 2: biological limits. The city literally doesn't sleep because the sky
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  Speaker 2: is constantly awake.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds exhausting, honestly.
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  Speaker 2: It is. You will find people populating the parks, hiking
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  Speaker 2: the trails, and just walking the streets at 2 or
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  Speaker 2: 3 in the morning the exact same way you might
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  Speaker 2: see them at 7 in the evening in Chicago or Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, I'm getting stuck on this environmental aspect. Yeah. Let's
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  Speaker 1: look at this from the perspective of a criminal for
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  Speaker 1: a second.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sure.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm planning to do something terrible, like if I
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  Speaker 1: am planning to hunt someone, isn't a 22-hour sun.
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  Speaker 1: My absolute worst nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: You would think so, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because darkness is the criminal's best friend. It hides
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  Speaker 1: your face. It hides your approach. It hides your escape.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: So if it's light out all the time, wouldn't the
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  Speaker 1: killer be terrified of being seen? How does constant daylight
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  Speaker 1: actually help them?
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  Speaker 2: It is wildly counterintuitive, I know. But the constant daylight
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  Speaker 2: actually provides something far more valuable to a predator than
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  Speaker 2: a shadow.
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  Speaker 1: Which is?
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  Speaker 2: It provides a constant, reliable supply of highly vulnerable victims
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  Speaker 2: who feel this false sense of security. Because the sun
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  Speaker 2: is out, that primal fear of the dark is just
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  Speaker 2: totally removed. People are much more willing to ride their
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  Speaker 2: bikes through isolated, heavily wooded trails at 3 in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Because it just looks like the afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The daylight increases the victim pool and normalizes being
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  Speaker 2: out in secluded areas at extremely odd hours.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, okay, I see. So it's not that the light
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  Speaker 1: hides the killer visually. The light hides the malice of
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  Speaker 1: the killer's presence.
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  Speaker 2: That is a perfect way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Like if everyone is accustomed to being out in the
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  Speaker 1: sun at 3 a.m., a guy walking towards you on
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  Speaker 1: a trail isn't a suspicious figure lurking in the night.
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  Speaker 2: Right. He's just another guy enjoying the long summer day.
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  Speaker 1: Right up until the moment he draws a weapon.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. You drop your guard completely. And while the environment
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  Speaker 2: is pulling all these potential targets outside, the city's infrastructure,
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  Speaker 2: like the very shield meant to protect those people... is
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  Speaker 2: fracturing under impossible weight.
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  Speaker 1: The police force.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. In 2016, the Anchorage Police Department had a total
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  Speaker 2: of 386 officers and administrators.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, for the whole city?
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  Speaker 2: The whole city. And that is not just patrol cops.
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  Speaker 2: That includes the top brass, the desk sergeants, literally everyone.
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  Speaker 1: For an area larger than Rhode Island, that is insane.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: And they are dealing with a record-breaking homicide rate, which
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  Speaker 2: was driven by a massive explosive growth in gangs and
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  Speaker 2: the drug trade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the source material features Scott Lofthouse, who was the
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  Speaker 1: former head of gang intelligence for the APD.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and he points out that this isn't some new phenomenon.
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  Speaker 1: No, Anchorage has had a gang presence since the 1980s,
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  Speaker 1: heavily influenced by groups like C4L, which stands for Crip
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  Speaker 1: for Life.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of this gang infrastructure was actually imported, right?
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't organic to Alaska initially. Right.
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  Speaker 1: You had families living in the lower 48, like places
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  Speaker 1: like Los Angeles, Chicago, Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Areas with established gang problems.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And they were desperate to escape that relentless gang
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  Speaker 1: violence in their neighborhood. So they packed up and moved
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  Speaker 1: to Alaska, thinking they were going to this last frontier,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a safe haven.
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  Speaker 2: But as Locked House notes, you can take the kid
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  Speaker 2: out of the gang neighborhood... But you can't easily sever
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  Speaker 2: those deep systemic affiliations.
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  Speaker 1: The gang culture just migrated right along with them.
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  Speaker 2: It did. And because of Alaska's isolation, the economics of
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  Speaker 2: the drug trade are wildly inflated up there.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's so hard to get things in.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. A product that costs $ 10 in Los Angeles might
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  Speaker 2: sell for $ 100 in Anchorage.
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  Speaker 1: That is a massive markup.
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  Speaker 2: And that kind of profit margin breeds extreme militarized violence
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  Speaker 2: over territory.
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  Speaker 1: Which means the baseline of violence the police are dealing
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  Speaker 1: with is just off the charts. We're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: a couple of guys getting into a fight behind a bar.
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  Speaker 1: Not at all. By 2016, Anchorage was seeing what is
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  Speaker 1: basically urban warfare. Massive shootouts for 40, 50, sometimes 60
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  Speaker 1: rounds are being fired in a single incident as these
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  Speaker 1: rival factions just clashed over this highly lucrative territory.
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  Speaker 2: And that grim reality is the cornerstone of the statistical
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  Speaker 2: camouflage we were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: How so?
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  Speaker 2: Well, human brains, and by extension, the collective brain of
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  Speaker 2: a police department, they have to find patterns to manage
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming amounts of data.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: When your daily reality becomes 60-round shootouts, your analytical framework
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  Speaker 2: just shifts. High-volume, chaotic, gang-related violence becomes the normal data point.
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  Speaker 1: It makes total sense, actually. Think about being in a crowded,
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  Speaker 1: noisy restaurant kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Plates are constantly crashing to the floor. Pans are clanging.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is yelling. The noise floor is just deafening.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it's chaos.
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  Speaker 1: Now imagine someone walks into that kitchen and intentionally drops
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  Speaker 1: a very specific crystal glass on the floor.
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  Speaker 2: Deliberately.
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  Speaker 1: Deliberately. To the person dropping it, it's this calculated, isolated act.
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  Speaker 1: But to the chef standing 10 feet away.
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  Speaker 2: It's just another crash in a room full of crashes.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. The overwhelming noise entirely masks the intentional pattern. So
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  Speaker 1: if you are a detective drowning in 50-round gang shootouts...
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  Speaker 1: Finding a targeted, isolated murder is like trying to hear
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  Speaker 1: that single crystal glass breaking.
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  Speaker 2: You just categorize it as more kitchen noise?
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  Speaker 1: You have to, or you'd go crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That is a phenomenal way to look at it, really.
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  Speaker 2: The noise floor of the city's crime was so elevated
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  Speaker 2: that a totally new, distinct signal was entirely drowned out.
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  Speaker 1: And the killer knew this.
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  Speaker 2: Or at the very least, benefited from it immensely. And
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  Speaker 2: this camouflage was first put to the ultimate test on
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  Speaker 2: a very specific morning in July.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: A morning where the crime scene completely defied the local
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  Speaker 2: gang profile in almost every conceivable way.
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  Speaker 1: So this is July 3rd, 2016. Early morning. Yep. The
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  Speaker 1: sun is up, of course. Gunshots ring out near Ship Creek,
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  Speaker 1: which is this industrial area that has a mix of
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  Speaker 1: nature trails and businesses. Right. And at 7.45 a.m., a
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  Speaker 1: bicyclist is traveling along the Ship Creek Trail right between
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  Speaker 1: Post Road and Viking Drive, and they stumble across two bodies.
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  Speaker 2: The victims were 41-year-old Jason Netter Sr. and 20-year-old Brianna Foyce.
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  Speaker 1: And if you look at the victimology here, like who
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  Speaker 1: these people actually were, On paper, they make absolutely no
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  Speaker 1: sense together.
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  Speaker 2: They really don't.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with Jason Eders, Sr. He was 41, and
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  Speaker 1: he had a pretty extensive history of run-ins with the law.
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  Speaker 2: Drug charges and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, drug charges, child support violations. He was a known
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  Speaker 1: entity to the local police, operating at least somewhat adjacent
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  Speaker 1: to the city's underworld.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have Breonna Foyce.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She was only 20 years old, and she was experiencing homelessness...
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  Speaker 2: Her adoptive mother provided some crucial context to the media,
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  Speaker 2: noting that Breonna suffered from fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.
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  Speaker 1: Which makes her incredibly vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: Very vulnerable. She was known to be incredibly good-natured, very trusting,
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  Speaker 2: but she chafed at rules and structured environments. And sadly,
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  Speaker 2: that often put her in highly dangerous situations on the streets.
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  Speaker 1: So you have a middle-aged man with a rap sheet
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  Speaker 1: and a highly vulnerable young woman with developmental challenges.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And as far as investigators could tell, There was zero
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  Speaker 1: connection between the two of them.
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  Speaker 2: None at all.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't run in the same circles. There was no
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  Speaker 1: obvious reason for them to be together on that trail
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  Speaker 1: at that time.
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  Speaker 2: The scene itself was deeply anomalous, too. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: bodies hadn't been moved. They were killed exactly where they
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  Speaker 2: were found.
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  Speaker 1: In broad daylight. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They were shot multiple times in what appeared to be
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  Speaker 2: a highly capitulated ambush. But here is the critical part.
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  Speaker 2: There were no signs of a robbery.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing was missing.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing of value was taken. There was no drug paraphernalia
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  Speaker 2: scattered around suggesting, you know, a deal gone bad. And
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  Speaker 2: because there was no connection between the victims, there was
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  Speaker 2: no apparent motive for a double homicide.
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  Speaker 1: But the real anomaly, like the thing that rips this
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  Speaker 1: completely out of the gang violence paradigm, is the physical evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Or I guess, more accurately, the total lack of it.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The police recovered the bullets from the bodies and
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  Speaker 1: they send them over to the Alaska State Crime Lab.
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  Speaker 1: The ballistics report comes back. And it reveals that the
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  Speaker 1: rounds are. 357 Magnum, fired from a Colt Python revolver.
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  Speaker 2: And what's fascinating here is if we look closely at
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  Speaker 2: the mechanics of this, the choice of weapon is just bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: The Colt Python is the furthest thing from your typical
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  Speaker 2: street-level mass-produced handgun. It was developed back in 1955 by
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  Speaker 2: Colt's finest gunsmiths. It is a heavy, substantial piece of machinery,
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  Speaker 2: weighing around two and a half pounds unloaded. It was
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  Speaker 2: specifically designed as a premium, highly accurate match pistol.
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  Speaker 1: Right. This isn't something stamped out of polymer on some
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  Speaker 1: assembly line in huge batches. This requires hours of actual
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  Speaker 1: hand fitting.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I've read that the mechanics inside a Colt Python, like
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  Speaker 1: the way the cylinder locks up seamlessly with the barrel,
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  Speaker 1: is basically like a Swiss watch.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It requires meticulous handgun smithing. And because of that craftsmanship,
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  Speaker 2: it is highly sought after. it as a collector A's item.
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  Speaker 1: It's expensive.
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  Speaker 2: Very. It has the kind of gun a target shooter cherishes,
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  Speaker 2: or a wealthy enthusiast keeps locked in a safe. For decades,
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  Speaker 2: it was actually the prestige duty pistol for law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right up until the 1980s and 90s when high-capacity
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  Speaker 2: semi-automatics like Glocks and Berettas completely took over the market.
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  Speaker 1: So finding a vintage, heavy, expensive Colt Python being used
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  Speaker 1: in what looks like a random, grimy, street-level double homicide
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  Speaker 1: in the woods... is a massive glowing red flag.
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  Speaker 2: It is. But the most important detail isn't just the
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  Speaker 2: brand of the gun. It is the type of gun.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's a revolver.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is a revolver. And that single mechanical fact
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  Speaker 2: changes the entire forensic landscape for the crime scene investigators.
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  Speaker 1: Walk us through why that is so important. What actually
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  Speaker 1: happens at a scene with a revolver versus a modern semi-automatic?
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  Speaker 2: Well, think back to those 40 to 60 round gang
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  Speaker 2: shootouts we discussed earlier. Oh. In almost all of those cases,
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  Speaker 2: the weapons used are semi-automatic handguns or rifles. When a
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  Speaker 2: semi-automatic fires a bullet, the explosive force not only pushes
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  Speaker 2: the projectile down the barrel, but it also forcefully ejects
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  Speaker 2: the empty brass shell casing out of the side of
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  Speaker 2: the gun right onto the ground.
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  Speaker 1: And for a detective, those empty casings lying on the
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  Speaker 1: pavement are like breadcrumbs.
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  Speaker 2: They are a forensic goldmine. A casing tells you an
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  Speaker 2: incredible story. Based on where it lands, a crime scene
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  Speaker 2: tech can determine exactly where the shooter was standing. If
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  Speaker 2: there's a trail of casings, it shows the path the
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  Speaker 2: shooter walked or ran while firing. If there are different
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  Speaker 2: brands of casings, it tells you how many different weapons
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  Speaker 2: were involved. Casings literally paint a geometric map of the violence.
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  Speaker 1: But a revolver doesn't play by those rules at all.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. A revolver operates with a rotating cylinder.
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  Speaker 2: When you fire a round, the bullet... leaves the barrel,
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  Speaker 2: but the empty brass casing stays firmly seated inside that cylinder.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it doesn't pop out.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The only way those casings end up on the
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  Speaker 2: ground is if the shooter physically stops, breaks open the cylinder,
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  Speaker 2: and manually dumps them out.
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  Speaker 1: Which no one is going to do at a crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So by choosing to use a Colt Python, the
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  Speaker 2: killer completely deprived the Anchorage Police Department of the primary
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  Speaker 2: physical evidence they rely on to reconstruct a shooting.
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  Speaker 1: No shell casings means no map. So look at what
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  Speaker 1: the police are dealing with here. A bizarre pairing of
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  Speaker 1: victims with absolutely no connection. No robbery. No clear motive.
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  Speaker 1: An incredibly expensive, heavy, match-grade weapon. And a total lack
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  Speaker 1: of a forensic footprint.
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  Speaker 2: It's a puzzle with no edges.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look at those data points. Does this suggest
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  Speaker 1: to you a gang dispute that just went weird? Or
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  Speaker 1: does this look like a highly calculated hunter testing the waters?
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  Speaker 2: The meticulous nature of it strongly points away from a
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: disorganized crime of passion or routine drug dispute. The precision
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: of the ambush, the lack of casings, the specific choice
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: of a high-powered, accurate weapon. It all suggests intent, calculation,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: and a genuine desire to leave zero trace.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: But without a motive, they have nothing.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Right. Without a motive and without those shell casings, the
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: police were completely stuck.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: They're basically spinning their wheels in the statistical noise. They
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: know it's weird. But they don't have a single thread
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: to pull.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: They spent hundreds of hours pulling security footage from businesses
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: all around Ship Creek. They even circulated images of two
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: persons of interest who were seen in the area.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: But that didn't pan out.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: No, they quickly tracked them down and definitively ruled them out.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: They were hitting brick walls everywhere. And while the police
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: were exhausting resources on dead ends, the killer was afforded
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the one thing you never want to give a predator.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Time.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Time. Time to reset. Time to plan. And almost a
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: month later, he would strike again, but this time he
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: would make a mistake that left a crucial visual clue.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Fast forward to July 29th. It's been nearly four weeks
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: since the Ship Creek murders. It's 3.0 a.m., about an
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: hour before dawn, so the sky is starting to get
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that intense pre-morning glow.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Right, it's not pitch black.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: No. A young man named Trayvon Thompson is riding his
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: bright yellow bicycle home.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: And Trayvon represents a heartbreaking story. fundamental shift in the victimology.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: How so?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Well, if the police previously suspected that maybe Jason Eder
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: was targeted because of his criminal history, Trayvon just completely
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: shatters that theory.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a good kid.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Trayvon was a hard worker who had just finished a
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: grueling shift at work. His long-term plan was to enlist
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: in the military and build a solid life for himself.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: He had absolutely no criminal record.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: None.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: No ties to the gang life, no history with drugs.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: He was simply a young, innocent man trying to pedal
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: home after work.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And as he is writing... The killer approaches on foot.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: In an instant, the killer unloads the entire gun into Trayvon.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: The violence is just overwhelming.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: It's devastating.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: The police later pull security footage from a camera in
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the area, but the angle is terrible. It only catches
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the lower half of the killer walking into frame, a
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: brief pause where the shooting actually occurs off screen, and
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: then the killer calmly riding away on Trayvon's bright yellow bicycle.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It's chilling. But this time, the daylight actually worked against
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: the killer.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Because it was relatively light out, three girls who were
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: looking out a window at a nearby wooded area spotted
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: a man acting suspiciously just moments before the gunfire.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So they actually saw him.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: They did. They noticed he was wearing a camouflage jacket.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: They provided a detailed description. And a police sketch artist
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: was able to put together a composite drawing of the
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: suspect's face.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And the police go into absolute overdrive with this. They
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: take that sketch and they plaster it everywhere.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all over the news.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: They circulate images of Trayvon's yellow bicycle, asking anyone if
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: they've seen it dumped in a ditch or an alley.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: They put up a massive $ 10, 000 reward for information.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: A huge sum.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: The community responds immediately, and hundreds of tips start pouring
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: into the tip line.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: It looks like a completely transparent, all-hands-on-deck public appeal.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like standard police work.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But underneath all of this frantic outreach, law enforcement is
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: actually holding on to a massive, terrifying secret.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Right. Because behind closed doors, the crime lab is processing
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the bullets recovered from Trayvon's body. And what do they find?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: 357 Magnum.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Fired from a Colt Python.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly. The exact same unique, high-end revolver used to execute
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Jason Netter and Brianna Foyce at Ship Creek weeks earlier.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: This is a monumental juncture for the investigation. The police
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: now have undeniable forensic proof connecting a seemingly random double
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: murder to the execution-style killing of a completely innocent kid
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: on a bicycle.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: They know they have a serial killer.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: They know, without a shadow of a doubt. But they
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: make a highly calculated intentional decision to keep this connection
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: totally hidden from the public.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Now wait. Stop. Put yourself in the shoes of a
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: citizen of Anchorage for a minute.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You are seeing a sketch of a guy who shot
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a kid for his bike. But you don't know... He's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: also a double murderer actively hunting people in the parks.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Right. You think it's just an isolated robbery gone bad.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I struggle with this strategy immensely. If there is a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: serial killer actively hunting in my city using a highly
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: lethal specific weapon, don't I have a fundamental right to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: know exactly what the threat is?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: That's a huge ethical question.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: If the police know this guy is hunting random people,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: why keep it a secret? Doesn't withholding that information put
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: more innocent people in the dark? Literally and figuratively.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It is arguably the most agonizing dilemma in law enforcement.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You are weighing the abstract risk to public safety against
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the concrete probability of actually solving the case.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: But people could die because they don't know the real danger.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. But let's look at the mechanics of
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the evidence. As we discussed, there are no shell casings.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: There is no DNA. There are no fingerprints. The only
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: physical thread tying these three bodies together is the microscopic
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: striations on the bullets. matching that specific Colt Python.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: So the gun is literally the only puzzle piece that matters.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Now, play out the scenario you're suggesting.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: The police hold a press conference and say, we have
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: a serial killer, and he is using a. 357 Magnum
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Colt Python. What is the very first thing the killer
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: does when he watches the 6 o'clock news?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Well, he takes the gun, wipes it down, and chucks
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it into the deepest, darkest part of Cook Inlet. It's
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: just gone forever.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: And the moment that gun hits the water, the case
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: goes completely cold.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I guess you're right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: The killer walks away clean. Maybe he moves to Seattle
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: or Portland and starts killing again, and no one ever
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: connects the dots because the weapon is destroyed.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: By keeping quiet, the police are taking a massive, terrifying gamble.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: They risk another murder happening locally in the short term,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: but they retain the single piece of physical evidence that
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: can ensure a conviction and stop the killer permanently.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It's a horrible choice to have to make.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: They prioritize a permanent systemic solution over providing temporary public reassurance.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: It is a brutal, cold calculus.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: It's a heavy, heavy burden for those detectives to carry.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: To know a monster is out there and to have
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to just bite your tongue when you talk to the press.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And despite the sketch, despite the reward money, and despite
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the hundreds of tips, the strategy didn't yield an immediate arrest. No,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it didn't. The killer vanished right back into the 22
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: hours of daylight. The city was on edge, feeling the tension,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but the pressure cooker hadn't popped yet.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: But it would.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that popped the moment the camouflage completely fell apart
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and the city realized exactly what was happening. It would
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: occur exactly a month later in a very public park.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: We are now looking at August 28th.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: August 28th, 1.42 a.m. An unidentified woman makes a frantic
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: call to 911. She is walking through Valley of the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Moon Park on the paved bike path, and she has
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: found a body.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And when patrol officers arrive to secure the scene, they
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: realize the horror is much worse than reported. They don't
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: just find one body. They find two.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: The scene is a complete nightmare. On the path, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: have Bryant DeHussen, who is just 25 years old. He
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: worked in environmental protection.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: He's a good guy.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was an avid cyclist just out riding his
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: brand new Schwinn bicycle through the park. And then nearby,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: stuffed violently underneath a park pavilion, officers find the body
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: is Kevin Turner.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: And Kevin's story is so sad.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: It is. Turner was 34. He was experiencing homelessness and
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: he suffered from severe mental health challenges, specifically schizophrenia and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: bipolar disorder.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: When investigators reconstruct the scene, the working theory paints a
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: picture of terrible, tragic, almost unimaginable bad timing.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Really? What happened?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Well, the evidence suggests that the killer was in the
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: process of murdering Kevin Turner and was actively trying to
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: conceal his body under the pavilion when Bryant DeHuson happened
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to ride his new bike right down the path.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: DeHuson didn't do anything wrong. He was likely killed simply
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: because he was a witness who interrupted a murder in progress.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That is just awful. The violence of this particular scene
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was so profound, so bloody. The source material mentions a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: detail that just sticks in your brain. The fire department
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: had to be called out later that morning to literally
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: hose down the picnic tables where Turner was killed before
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the public could even be allowed back in.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It was a bloodbath.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And this is the moment the public panic finally subsides.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: irrevocably sets in.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: And understandably so, right? I mean, think about the timeline.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: You now have five dead bodies in less than two months.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's accelerating.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: All of them executed in public spaces, trails, streets, parks,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: all of them ambushed.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: The city leadership can't just issue a sketch and a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: reward this time. They have to address the terror directly.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So they hold a major press conference right there at
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Valley of the Moon Park.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: To try and calm everyone down.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have APD chief Chris Tolley and Mayor Ethan
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Berkowitz standing before the cameras trying to calm a completely
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: terrified public. And if you listen to the rhetoric they use,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: it is intense.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Very intense.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Mayor Berkowitz gets up to the microphone and states firmly
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: that the city will not surrender its parks to, quote,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: drug dealers, pimps, predators, and thugs.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Chief Talley focuses on the systemic strain, publicly admitting
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that according to professional law enforcement standards, A city the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: size of Anchorage ideally needs 450 officers, but they only
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: have 386.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: If we step back and analyze the rhetoric of that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: press conference, it reveals a fascinating psychological defense mechanism used
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: by leadership. When officials are faced with inexplicable, terrifying, random violence,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: especially violence they secretly know from the ballistics lab is
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: likely the work of a serial killer, they almost always
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: lean heavily on generalized crime troops.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: You mean throwing out words like thugs and pimps?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly. By invoking drug dealers and pimps, the mayor is
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: trying to force this anomalous, terrifying violence into familiar, manageable categories.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Because it's easier to process.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: It is an attempt to maintain social order. Because if
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the public thinks, oh, it's just gangs fighting over turf
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: or it's just drug dealers, it feels somewhat contained. It
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: feels like a known quantity that doesn't threaten the average
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: citizen who is just out walking their dog.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Even though the police secretly know, because the crime lab
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: immediately confirmed the bullets were from the. 357 Colt Python
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: yet again, that this is not a gang war.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It's not a pimp protecting his corner. It's a predator
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: hunting random citizens. Right.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And the public isn't really buying the calm down narrative.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: They are openly demanding that the city install surveillance cameras
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: in all the parks. The whisper of a serial killer
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: is just on everyone's lips.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: The fear is palpable.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And still, despite the mounting pressure and the rising body count,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the police refused to release the information about the Colt Python.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Still holding on to the secret.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Instead, they issue a very vague general safety warning, advising
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: people to travel in groups and just be cautious when
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: out after dark.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Which feels so hollow. It feels like they're telling people
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to wear a raincoat to survive a hurricane. I mean,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: think about Bryant DeHussen for a second. Yeah. The sheer
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: bad luck of his death is staggering. It is a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: tragic intersection of a good citizen just living his life,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: crossing paths with a killer... at the worst possible second.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: You can't issue a safety warning to protect against that
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: kind of lightning strike.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: It highlights the sheer randomness of this predator's target selection.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: There is no profile for the public to avoid. The
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: victims span across age groups, racial backgrounds, socioeconomic statuses, and genders.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: It's like the police are playing a high-stakes game of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: chess in a pitch-black room.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: That's a good analogy.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: They know the killer's most important piece, the gun. No.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But they know if they reach over and flip on
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the light switch to warn the public, that piece is
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: going to be taken off the board immediately and they
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: lose the game entirely.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: It is brutally pragmatic. If they announce the gun, they
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: might cause everyone to lock their doors tonight, which saves
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: a life in the short term. But they ensure the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: killer goes free forever, inevitably moving on to kill again
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: somewhere else. Right. By keeping the secret, they are prioritizing
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: justice for the five victims already dead over the peace
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of mind of the living.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And while the city was locked in this state of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: generalized fear, there was actually a near miss in October
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that proved the killer wasn't just a ghost. He was
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: still actively lurking right there in the city.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: This part is so intense.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Mandy Primo, who was the mother of the third victim,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Thompson, was outside the Alaska Regional Hospital late at night.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: She looks up and she spots a man who perfectly,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: chillingly matches the police sketch of her son's killer.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And she didn't just panic. She was ready to confront
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: him right there in the parking lot.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: She was. She calls 911 dispatch, and you can actually
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: hear the dispatcher having to frantically talk her down.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the dispatcher is terrified for her.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: The dispatcher reminds her, you have your infant child in
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the backseat of your car. You cannot risk your life
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: engaging a suspected murderer.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Which is such a grounded thing to say in that
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: moment of adrenaline. Totally.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: And by the time the patrol cars arrive with their
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: sirens blaring, the man has just vanished back into the city.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It demonstrates how close to the surface this killer was operating.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: He wasn't hiding in a bunker. He was walking around hospitals.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Just out of the open.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: But as the source material astutely notes, the ultimate break
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: in this massive citywide manhunt wouldn't come from a brilliant
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: detective piecing together clues on a murder board.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: No.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't come from a highly coordinated SWAT sting. It
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: would come from an utterly mundane evidence. everyday disturbance.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Which is so often the case with these massive manhunts.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, we finally reach November 12th. It's a Saturday morning,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a few months after the Valley of the Moon murders.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: The police receive a completely routine call. A cab driver
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: reports that a passenger just skipped out on his fare
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: near Fifth Avenue downtown. Just a standard... Low-level theft of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: services call. The kind of thing cops deal with ten
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: times a day.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Officer Arne Salau, who's a five-year veteran of the APD,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: happens to be patrolling the area.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: He spots a tall man walking casually down the sidewalk.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Salau does everything exactly by the book. He doesn't aggressively
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: swarm the guy. He pulls his cruiser up, clears the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: nearby traffic to be safe, and then he simply uses
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: his cruiser's PA loudspeaker to hail the man. He just says,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Anchorage Police, you need to stop.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And what happens next is truly shocking. The suspect's reaction
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: is instantaneous and catastrophic.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: He doesn't even hesitate.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: He doesn't run. He doesn't put his hands up. He
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: immediately turns, actively advances on the police cruiser, pulls a
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: massive handgun from underneath his coat, and just unloads point
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: blank into Officer Salau.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: The door of the police cruiser offered almost zero ballistic
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: protection against a weapon of that caliber.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Because it's a. 357 Magnum.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Right. Officer Salau is hit five times in the lower body.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: The source details the terrifying ballistics of the attack. The
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: bullets entered his lower body and traveled upwards into his torso,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: causing horrific, catastrophic internal injuries.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Just brutal.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: One of the large caliber rounds actually lodged directly in
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: his liver.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It's an absolute miracle that Salau survived that onslaught. He
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: had to endure seven hours of emergency trauma surgery.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he barely made it.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: But during the attack, as the suspect is firing into
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: the cruiser and turns to flee, backup arrives. Sergeant Mark
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Polsky arrives. who is a canine handle, pulls up. He
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: assesses the threat instantly, draws his weapon, turns fire, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: drops the suspect right there on the pavement.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: The decisive end.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: The suspect dies on the scene.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: If we connect this chaotic, violent morning to the broader
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: history of criminal justice, it is a remarkably classic end
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to a prolific criminal career.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: How do you mean?
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Think about some of the most notorious predators in history.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Ted Bundy wasn't caught by a genius profiler. He was
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: pulled over for driving a stolen Volkswagen and having a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: missing taillight. David Berkovitz, the son of Sam, was finally
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: tracked down because of a mundane parking ticket. The most terrifying,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: sophisticated predators are so often brought down by incredibly minor,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: unrelated infractions, or in this specific case, the mere suspicion
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: of one.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Wait, that specific part makes zero sense to me, though.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Let's look at the psychology of the shooter in that moment. Okay.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: If I skip out on a $ 15 cab fare and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a cop yells at me over a loudspeaker, I'm expecting
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a ticket. Maybe a night in a holding cell if
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I have warrants.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Right, it's a minor offense.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Drawing a gun and advancing on a police cruiser is
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: an insane, completely disproportionate escalation. Was he trying to commit
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: suicide by cop? Why on earth would someone react with
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: lethal force to a simple stop?
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: To understand that reaction, you really have to look at
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: what the detectives found when they finally secured the scene.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Lying on the pavement, still in the dead man's hand,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: was a. 357 Magnum Colt Python.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: The gun. the missing puzzle piece that tied the whole
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: nightmare together. Forensics rushed it to the lab and confirmed it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: The striations matched perfectly. This was the gun used in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: all five previous murders.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So to answer your question about his psychology, like
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: why he reacted with such extreme violence, you have to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: understand the psychological weight of carrying that specific object. Right.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: If you are walking down the street carrying a weapon
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: that you know definitively ties you to five dead bodies...
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a weapon that guarantees you life in solitary confinement or
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a lethal injection, your worldview is entirely warped.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: You're on edge constantly.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Every single interaction with law enforcement is a life or
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: death moment. He was hypervigilant. He didn't know Officer Salah
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was looking for a guy who skipped a cab fare.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: He only knew that a cop was telling him to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: stop and he assumed the gig was up. He chose
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: to shoot his way out.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Paranoia completely took over. But here is the massive twist
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: in the story. Finding the murder weapon was a monumental shock, obviously.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: But when they processed the scene, the dead man holding
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the gun, he wasn't the guy who skipped the cab, Sarah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Not at all. He didn't even remotely match the physical
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: description the cab driver gave to dispatch. He just happened
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: to have the remarkably bad luck of walking down the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: exact same stretch of sidewalk in downtown Anchorage right when
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Officer Salau was looking for a fare beater.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Salau hailed the wrong guy, and it accidentally stopped a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: serial killer.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It is a stunning coincidence that undoubtedly saved countless lives.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: But as the police began to process the body of
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the shooter, the shock of finding the gun was quickly
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: eclipsed by the shock of his identity. Right. The identity
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: they unearthed revealed a tragic, baffling backstory that absolutely nobody
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in the community saw coming.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: The man dead on the sidewalk holding the Colt Python
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: was James Dale Ritchie. He was 40 years old and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: he was an Anchorage native.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And if you looked at James Dale Ritchie's past, If
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you looked at who he was 20 years prior, you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: would see the absolute blueprint of a golden boy.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had everything going for him. He was physically imposing,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: standing 6'3, and heavily muscled. But he wasn't just muscle.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: He was a celebrated star athlete at Betty Davis East
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: High School. He was a key player on the team
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that won the 1994 state football championship.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: A local hero, basically.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And he was incredibly intelligent, scoring a 1,200 on his SATs,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: which is.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: He had the world at his feet. He was heavily
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: recruited by Division II colleges for his athletic prowess, but
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: he was ambitious. He insisted on playing Division I, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: he eventually secured a spot at West Virginia University.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But that transition from being the big fish in the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: small pond of Anchorage to a massive Division I school
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: in West Virginia seemed to completely break him.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It's a big jump.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: He struggled academically and socially, dropped out within a single year,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and returned home to Alaska. And from the moment his
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: feet touched the ground in Anchorage, his descent was rapid
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and incredibly steep.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: In 1995, he catches a drug offense. Just a year later,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: in 1996, he's arrested for promoting and running illegal animal
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: fighting rooms.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Dog fighting.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yes. And by 1998, he is executing a violent drug-based
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: home invasion. He goes from being a state champion with
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a 1200 SAT score to being deeply embedded in violent,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: predatory crime in less than four years.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the psychological mechanism of that crash, because
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: how does a bright kid devolve into running dogfights? But
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: even more fascinating is the reaction of his community.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: The denial was intense.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: When the news finally broke that the Golden Boy was
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the Anchorage serial killer, the cognitive dissonance of the people
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: who knew him was deafening. You look at the character
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: testimonies provided in the source material.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't believe it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: His former roommate, a woman named Doris Homer, talked at
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: length about how he just, quote, missed home when he
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: was away at college, painting him as this homesick kid.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: His mother and his lawyer during his 1998 trial passionately
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: defended him, pointing to his old report cards and his
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: athletic trophies as proof of his character.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And you had friends quoted in the media saying he
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: was harmless. They admitted he carried a large handgun, which
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: they called a strap, but they insisted he only carried
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it For show.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: For show. A massive cult python.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They forcefully pushed back on the idea that he
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: was a killer. Although, buried in those testimonies, you do
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: find one friend who remembered a deeply disturbing incident from
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the 90s where a dog killed a rabbit, and they
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: noted that Richie had this chilling, crazy look in his
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: eyes while watching it happen.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Think about the neighborhood you grew up in. You know
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: that one-star athlete everyone thought was destined for absolute greatness.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, every town has one.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Imagine trying to reconcile the memory of that kid with
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a cold-blooded serial killer who shoots a 20-year-old girl with
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: FASD in the woods.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: What you are describing is a textbook extreme example of
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the halo effect.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: The halo effect.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: The halo effect is a cognitive bias where our overall
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: impression of a person heavily influences how we feel and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: think about their character. When a community watches a young
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: person succeed wildly, when they see the star athlete, the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: smart kid who is going places, They build a permanent
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: glowing psychological halo around that person.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: And it sticks?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It sticks. When that same person devolves into violence, the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: community simply cannot reconcile the two opposing images. It breaks
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: their understanding of the world. So they cling desperately to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: the memory of the boy they cheered for rather than
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: acknowledging the monster he actually became.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, I have to completely reject this whole
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: harmless narrative his friends were spinning. How does anyone reconcile
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a guy who is actively running illegal dog fighting rings
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and executing armed home invasions on drug dealers as a
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: gentle giant who just carried a gun for fashion?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It's absurd when you say it out loud.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: The denial required to hold those two thoughts in your
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: head is just staggering.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: But the denial is a necessary survival mechanism for the
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: community psyche. Admitting that the boy they trusted and celebrated
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: was capable of ambushing five innocent people in cold blood
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: means admitting that they are entirely incapable of spotting evil
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: in their own living rooms.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: That's a terrifying thought.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: It is far easier psychologically to say he just snapped
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: or he just had a gun for show than to
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: accept the slow, deliberate, observable evolution of a predator in
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: their midst.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: And the concept of home plays such a tragically ironic
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: role here. Doris Homer said he came back from West
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Virginia because he missed his home. He couldn't handle the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: outside world. He wanted the comfort and safety of Anchorage.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Yet, upon returning, he systematically terrorized and destroyed the very
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: community he supposedly loved.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It is a profound, twisted betrayal. But as we dig
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: disparate into his background, there is one specific detail in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: his history that elevates this case from a random, chaotic
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: spree to something deeply psychologically disturbing.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the bizarre, almost unbelievable connection to his
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: third victim, Trayvon Thompson.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: The kid on the yellow bicycle.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yes. Investigators discovered that back in the 1990s, James Dale
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Ritchie was actually very good friends with Trayvon Thompson's father,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and particularly with Trayvon's uncle, a man named Quincy.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: In a tragic twist of fate, Quincy was murdered the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: very day before Ritchie left Anchorage for college. According to friends,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: that murder devastated Ritchie. It was a trauma that profoundly
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: affected him.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, this breaks my brain. Nearly 30 years after his
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: close friend Quincy is murdered, James Dale Ritchie walks up
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to Quincy's nephew, Trayvon, who was riding a bike at
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: 3 a.m., and guns him down.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: It's hard to process.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I have to ask, what are the odds? In a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: city the physical size of Anchorage, with hundreds of thousands
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: of people, was this truly a random chance encounter in
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the twilight? Or was there some twisted, deep-seated psychological projection
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: going on here? Did Richie recognize the family resemblance in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Trayvon's face?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It is the million-dollar question that we can never definitively
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: answer because Richie is dead. Statistically speaking, for a serial
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: killer to randomly execute the nephew of a close friend
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: who was murdered three decades prior, the odds are astronomical.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It defies logic completely.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It suggests a strong possibility that his victim selection wasn't
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: entirely random. Perhaps he was targeting specific demographics. Or perhaps
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: seeing Trayvon triggered a violent, unresolved psychological trauma tied to
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: his failure to protect his friend Quincy. We know trauma
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: can manifest in deeply destructive, cyclical ways.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's a chilling thought that he might have looked into
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the eyes of his dead friend's nephew and pulled the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: trigger anyway. And that brings us to the aftermath of
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the shootout and the resolution of the case.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Right. The wrap up.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Just four days after Officer Salau miraculously survived the shootout,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the Anchorage Police Department, working alongside the FBI and the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: state troopers, officially closed the file. They held a press
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: conference and declared James Dale Ritchie the sole serial killer
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: responsible for all five deaths, their primary indisputable piece of evidence,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: his possession of the Colt Python prior to and during
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: the killings.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: But the source material, the Beyond Evil documentary, introduces a
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: very valid lingering doubt that we have to explore.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: The history of the gun itself. Right.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives traced that
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: specific Colt Python back to its original purchase in Anchorage
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: in 1976.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: 1976. That is a long time.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: For 40 years, that weapon existed in the city. It
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: had been sold, traded, possibly stolen, and moved through the
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: subterranean layers of the underworld.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: So the counter-theory posited is this. Could this highly valuable,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: untraceable revolver have been a shared weapon? A quote-unquote community gun?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: used by different members of the Anchorage criminal underworld for
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: different jobs?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: It's a valid question.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And if so, did James Dale Ritchie just have the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: remarkably bad luck of holding the community gun on the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: exact night he bumped into Officer Salau?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: As an analytical thinker, you always have to entertain the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: counter theory. And shared weapons are a highly documented reality
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: in gang structures and organized crime. A reliable, untraceable gun
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: is kept hidden, handed out to a member for a
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: specific job or hit, and then return to a stash
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: house so the individual isn't caught with it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: So it's not impossible.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It's entirely plausible that a gun floating around since 1976
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: functioned exactly this way. However, if we apply Occam's razor,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: the philosophical principle that the simplest explanation requiring the fewest
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: assumptions is usually the correct one, it strongly validates the
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: police's conclusion that Ritchie acted alone.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. Let's debate that bad luck theory for
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a second. If I am just holding a gun for
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a friend and a cop yells at me over a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: loudspeaker for a cab fare, My reaction is flight, not fight.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe I run. Maybe I chuck the heavy gun into
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: a dumpster in an alley and sprint.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Right. You try to get away.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: But turning and aggressively firing five magnum rounds into an
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: officer's liver, that is not the reaction of a guy
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: who is just holding a piece of metal. That is
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the reaction of a man who knows that the metal
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: in his hand ties him to five bodies. The reaction
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: itself confirms his guilt. Absolutely.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. The violent reaction is a physical admission of extreme
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: overarching guilt. He matched the physical description of the killer.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: He perfectly matched the composite sketch generated from the Trayvon
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Thompson murder. He possessed the murder weapon. And he attempted
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: to murder a police officer entirely unprovoked. The evidence against
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: him being the sole trigger man is overwhelming.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just too much stacking up against him.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: But this reality raises a deeply important question about how
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: our justice system achieves closure and what closure actually means.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Right, because the case is closed, but it doesn't really
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: feel finished.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: When the suspect dies in a violent shootout on the street,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: the police get forensic finality. The ballistics match, the file
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: is stamped closed, the press release is issued, and the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: city can officially breathe a sigh of relief.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: The threat is gone.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: But the community, the families of the victims, and the
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: city of Anchorage as a whole is permanently robbed of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: psychological closure. We have the what and the how, but
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: because James Dale Ritchie died on that sidewalk, leaving behind
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: no manifesto, no journals, and no explanation, we will never,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: ever truly have the why.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: And that is the haunting part. We will never know
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: why he targeted Jason Netter, a middle-aged man with a record,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: alongside Brianna Foyce, a vulnerable young woman with FASD.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: We just don't know.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: We will never know if he recognized Trayvon Thompson in
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the dark. We will never know what was going through
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the mind of a former Golden Boy as he hunted
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: innocent people in the parks of his hometown.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And that lack of psychological closure is a heavy,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: enduring burden for a city to carry, even long after
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the physical threat has been neutralized. It leaves a scar
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: on the community's psyche that doesn't just fade away because
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: a press conference was held.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: We've covered an incredible amount of ground today, digging through
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the timeline, the ballistics, and the psychology. Looking back at
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: all the sources, what do you think is the core
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: lasting lesson here?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The story of James Dale Ritchie is a profound lesson
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: in how easily severe catastrophic threats can hide within systemic noise.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: When a city's divest line for violence is sky high,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: as it was in Anchorage with the explosive gang wars,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: a lone methodical predator can use that statistical chaos as
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the perfect camouflage.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: It's like the breaking glass in the restaurant.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It teaches us that we can't just look for
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: threats in the quiet shadows. Sometimes they're operating right in
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the middle of the loudest room. Furthermore, it illustrates the
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: tragic reality of the halo effect, how the descent from
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: a promising, intelligent young athlete to a cold-blooded killer can
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: happen right under a community's nose, shielded by their own
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: fond memories and desperate denial.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And for you listening, I think it's a stark reminder
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: of the incredibly delicate, often agonizing balance law enforcement has
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to strike between public transparency and catching a predator. Those
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: detectives had to carry the secret of the Colt Pythons,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: knowing they were risking public outrage to ensure they could
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: eventually close the net around a monster.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: It's a huge burden.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: It shows us how our environments, even one as vast, open,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: and well-lit as the 22-hour Alaskan summer, can hide the darkest,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: most terrifying secrets.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: The light doesn't always bring clarity. Sometimes it just creates
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: a much larger, more surreal stage for the tragedy to
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: play out on.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I want to leave you with a final thought to
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: mull over as you go about your day. We spent
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about that specific weapon, the.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: 357 Magnum Colt Python. Think about the physical objects in
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the world that outlive us. That specific gun was bought
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: by someone in Anchorage in 1976. For 40 years, it
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: moved almost invisibly through the city.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: A lifetime for an object.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: It absorbed history. It changed hands in the shadows. It
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: sat in dark drawers and dusty closets. Until, decades later,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: it became the sole silent narrator of five lost lives.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: How many mundane, everyday objects are sitting around us right now?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: In pawn shops? In basements? We're buried in the woods,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: quietly carrying the darkest, completely unsolved histories of our cities.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Keep your eyes open, stay curious, keep questioning the complex
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: world around you, and we'll catch you on the next
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: deep dive.