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Bucky Brooks Shares Expectations for a Strong Defensive Jump | Huddle Up · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, June twelfth, Japon. Shadwick,
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  Speaker 1: John Oser from Hondai Studios at the Miller Electric Center
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Bunching Brooks joining us in Los Angeles, and school's.
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  Speaker 2: Out for summer.
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  Speaker 3: Good day, good day, John's kind of day.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking good day today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's his kind of day.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's over, We're done, we won't see anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I think John wouldn't even call.
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  Speaker 5: It football until training camp, So this would be a
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  Speaker 5: nice time for everyone to kind of relax. We set,
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  Speaker 5: we calibrate, get ready for what should be a very
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  Speaker 5: rigorous training camp to get this team ready to row.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it again, it feels as much as that
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  Speaker 6: kid about OTAs in mini camp, they're important to get ready.
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  Speaker 6: It seemed this week like the intensity really went up
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  Speaker 6: in Mini camp compared to OTAs, which you would expect
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  Speaker 6: because they let it out. They let a lot of
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  Speaker 6: the veterans go, and you have young guys who are
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  Speaker 6: very much you know, even though they say it's not
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  Speaker 6: competition for uster spots at this point, these.
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  Speaker 3: Guys are working.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 6: So we saw a lot of I thought we saw
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  Speaker 6: fast stuff this week. Montery Brown made a nice play
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  Speaker 6: near the goal line that I happened to see. So
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  Speaker 6: there's some stuff that you like, and it it feels
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  Speaker 6: like a team that's rested, ready, and you know, we'll
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  Speaker 6: be anxious to get back in late July. And except
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  Speaker 6: for David White, a uninjured team, which was the whole goal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kilan Robinson made a couple of nice plays today
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  Speaker 1: as well, the rookie running back out of Texas. So
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  Speaker 1: a few guys flashing in this off season period. Head
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  Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson today before practice was asked about the
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  Speaker 1: expectations for the players in the next month and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Away definitely wanted.
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  Speaker 7: To get away and Blacks and enjoyed this last you
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  Speaker 7: know a little bit of summer before we start. But
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  Speaker 7: at the same time, you know, the message is to
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  Speaker 7: continue to work out, continue to run, you know, continue
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  Speaker 7: to review the information that we gave them this offseason
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  Speaker 7: so that when they come back, they come back ready,
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  Speaker 7: they come back in shape, they come back mentally and physically,
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  Speaker 7: you know, ready to go for train camp.
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  Speaker 1: So I stuck Peterson earlier full press conference on Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: dot Com. I've got a question for the former player,
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  Speaker 1: that's bucky of course. So what is your balance of
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  Speaker 1: the next five weeks as a player to be both
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  Speaker 1: rested and relaxed and enjoy the off season, plus be
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  Speaker 1: ready to roll once you show up for camp.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the most dangerous part of the off
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  Speaker 5: season program for coaches and players. Like coaches in terms
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  Speaker 5: of thinking about how their players are going to come
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  Speaker 5: back into shape because all of the work that's been
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  Speaker 5: done over the spring, you know, becoming a bigger, faster,
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  Speaker 5: stronger version of yourself. When that can be lost if
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  Speaker 5: you don't display the discipline necessary to.
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  Speaker 4: Get ready for training camp.
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  Speaker 5: You naturally want to maintain the same level of conditioning
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  Speaker 5: and same level of like strength games that you made,
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  Speaker 5: but you also want to give yourself some time. Normally
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  Speaker 5: for players, fourth of July week or weekend, that's kind
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  Speaker 5: of when it's the last kind of hang out vacation
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  Speaker 5: stuff that you will do. Uh, take some time off,
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  Speaker 5: get yourself ready. Take that week or fourth of July
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  Speaker 5: to kind of like hang out, see your family, uh,
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  Speaker 5: taking a vacation. But as soon as you come back
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  Speaker 5: from that, you should be ramping up and trying to
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  Speaker 5: put yourself in a position where you as a closed
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  Speaker 5: to peak condition as you can be heading into training camp.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds like Bucky had some Fourth of July.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's that's that's the last time. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: the fourth of July is kind of like the last
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  Speaker 5: time that you can quote unquote let your hair down
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  Speaker 5: before you got to get ready for the season. So
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  Speaker 5: that's that's the date that everyone knows, so plan accordingly.
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  Speaker 3: I got to hear some of the let the.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to yea details.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, man, that sounds like.
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  Speaker 5: Hanging that's the last time you can take you can
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  Speaker 5: take your trips, if you can go to Cobo or
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  Speaker 5: kind of lay out a little bit and have some
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  Speaker 5: fun in the sun.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 5: And after that you got to kind of lock in
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  Speaker 5: and focus because you won't get any downtime into maybe
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  Speaker 5: the bye week, depending upon the philosophy.
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  Speaker 4: Of the coach.
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  Speaker 8: Where did you go, Bucky? Like did was Cabo so
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  Speaker 8: long ago? They talking about like thirty years. I can't
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  Speaker 8: even I can vaguely remember last week. I can't remember.
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  Speaker 5: Way back when I'm sure it involved uh uh some sand,
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  Speaker 5: a body of water. Uh maybe through uh, like chips
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  Speaker 5: and guaq and oh some beverages. Yeah, nothing nothing, nothing heavy,
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  Speaker 5: some light, some light stuff.
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  Speaker 2: He really is uncomfortable talking about You could tell.
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  Speaker 3: The change lot as long as long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: Man, a long time ago.
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  Speaker 4: We're coming up on an anniversary.
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  Speaker 5: In terms of the thirtieth thing with with with the Jags,
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  Speaker 5: I can't even remember way back I was in year two.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't know, like, what are we doing what?
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  Speaker 3: In terms of.
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  Speaker 6: Mac Jones, who I know, JP was asking about my
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  Speaker 6: son coming up on him later, But.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I talked to Mac today as well.
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  Speaker 3: Mac Jones well, and.
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  Speaker 6: He seemed, you know, you talk about a guy who
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  Speaker 6: has uh made an impact as a backup. When I
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  Speaker 6: say made an impact, you can clearly see him out
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  Speaker 6: in the field having fun loose.
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  Speaker 3: Uh you know he Uh.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's intriguing as an off season story because
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  Speaker 6: of what this training. I mean, I guess because of
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  Speaker 6: what this season might mean. And I guess I'm not
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  Speaker 6: even asking the scout. I'm asking JP because he talked
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  Speaker 6: to him. He seems to have taken a really great
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  Speaker 6: approach to this. And I knows what it is, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's clear what it is. I mean, there's nothing vague
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  Speaker 1: about it. Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback here and he's
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  Speaker 1: competing to be a reserve quarterback here, and that's what
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  Speaker 1: it is, and you know, so he's had to embrace that.
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  Speaker 1: And his reaction when he got the phone call about
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  Speaker 1: the trade was like, Okay, well it's a place I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know they have great coaches there, Doug Peterson, Mike McCoy,
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  Speaker 1: guys who've played the position, so I can go embrace this.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fourth and final year they didn't take the option,
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  Speaker 1: so he's got a year to embrace it, to figure
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  Speaker 1: some things out. And he's i think, really bought into
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. You can see that on the field
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  Speaker 1: bucket during the practices, even without helmets and all that,
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  Speaker 1: the energy he brings.
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  Speaker 2: He's always talking.
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  Speaker 1: After a play, either to a defender or the receiver
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  Speaker 1: or whoever it is, sometimes to himself, but he's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of into everything going on and that's a good sign.
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  Speaker 1: And a change of scenery is not a bad thing
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  Speaker 1: sometimes Now it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if there's anyone having more fun this
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  Speaker 5: offseason than Mac Jones just being around the team and
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  Speaker 5: watching him kind of go into his thing. He's upbeat,
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  Speaker 5: he's positive, he's jovial, he's doing all the things that
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  Speaker 5: you want to see a kid who really loves the
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  Speaker 5: game do. And I think it has probably been a
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  Speaker 5: weight lifted off his back in terms of not having
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  Speaker 5: the pressure being the starting quarterback. This gives him a
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  Speaker 5: chance to compete with himself to see how good can
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  Speaker 5: he be over the course of this preseason. How good
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  Speaker 5: can he be when he has an opportunity to play
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  Speaker 5: in the preseason. What can he learn from Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 5: and the staff to set him up for success down
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  Speaker 5: the road. I think he's really embracing that. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes there can be a lot of pressure when you
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  Speaker 5: go back to playing in your hometown, but it also
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  Speaker 5: can be a comfort level and being home and seeing
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  Speaker 5: your friends and seeing your family and those things. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: he's just very, very comfortable being in Jacksonville. And maybe
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  Speaker 5: that's why we're seeing this version of mac Jones appear.
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  Speaker 5: Because I saw the little thing he did with the
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  Speaker 5: rapper Mike Jones, which was funny. I mean, he is
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  Speaker 5: just having the time of his life and I enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: But I think on the field.
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  Speaker 5: This is a huge deal in terms of adding a
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  Speaker 5: former first round pick to be a backup quarterback, someone
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  Speaker 5: who has played at a Pro Bowl level before, someone
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  Speaker 5: who is young enough and look talented enough that if
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  Speaker 5: Trevor has to sit out a game or two, the
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  Speaker 5: offense shouldn't skip a beat. I think this is a
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  Speaker 5: move and this is not a knock to CJ. Bethard,
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  Speaker 5: but I think when we get into training came in preseason,
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  Speaker 5: I think you'll see the difference in talent show up
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  Speaker 5: between mac Jones and CJ.
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  Speaker 4: Bethard.
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  Speaker 5: I think if he wins this QB two job, I
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  Speaker 5: certainly believe it's a nice insurance policy to have behind
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  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: And just the look of practices this week, John, the
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  Speaker 1: way the ball is thrown, I mean, it's a first
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  Speaker 1: round quarter throwing the football right. It's not an undrafted,
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  Speaker 1: you know, different league quarterback guy trying to make it somehow.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's made it like he's in the league. He's
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  Speaker 2: for a reason.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can tell, and again shorts and hats is
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  Speaker 6: the caveat, but you can tell in terms of a
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  Speaker 6: quickness of decision zip on the ball, confidence in where
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  Speaker 6: he's going with it. He's in three years played a
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  Speaker 6: lot of NFL football. My final question to Bucky on
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  Speaker 6: this topic would be, I wasn't around in New England
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  Speaker 6: when he was there, obviously, so I don't know the details,
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  Speaker 6: but I would think for Mac Jones being around Mike McCoy,
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  Speaker 6: being around Press Taylor, being around Doug Peterson, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: this is probably the most extensive quarterback NFL quarterback knowledge
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  Speaker 6: specific I mean, I was a Belichick's Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 6: you know, knowledge guy.
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  Speaker 3: But this might be the most intensive offensive experience he's had, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean outside of like, you know, Josh mcdames
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  Speaker 5: in the system that he had in place for him
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  Speaker 5: his rookie season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that.
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  Speaker 5: But I also think, and this is not a knock
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  Speaker 5: to what the Patriots do and how the Patriot weigh
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  Speaker 5: has led to a lot of success, but maybe he
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  Speaker 5: needed to be kind of free from that very very
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  Speaker 5: structured and very rigorous program to find something that I
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  Speaker 5: won't say is a little more laid back, but the
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  Speaker 5: people in charge of the program are a little more
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  Speaker 5: laid back and maybe quarterback friendly, to kind of regain
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  Speaker 5: his confidence and rediscover what made him specially when he
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  Speaker 5: was at Alabama and look what made him a first
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  Speaker 5: round pick. He certainly has talent. I mean, we could
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  Speaker 5: say a lot of things about Mac Jones. He's a
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  Speaker 5: first round player who played up to expectation that first
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  Speaker 5: year and he got sideways for him. But once a
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  Speaker 5: player plays at that level, they certainly can get back
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  Speaker 5: to that level. So I want to make sure we
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  Speaker 5: give him is just do in terms of what he's
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  Speaker 5: been able to accomplish in this league.
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  Speaker 2: Think's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hasn't really had to learn a new
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  Speaker 1: offense too often in his either college or pro career
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  Speaker 1: because he's he was at Alabama the whole four years
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  Speaker 1: and then was in New England the first three years.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really about the third time in the last
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  Speaker 1: what do the math there seven years that he's had
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  Speaker 1: to learn an offense. So that's been a key for
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  Speaker 1: him this offseason, and having that help around him has
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  Speaker 1: helped that process.
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  Speaker 6: And it's one final thought there jab anyhow, And you
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  Speaker 6: know it, Uh, it feels very naturally talking like this,
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  Speaker 6: and but I've been around situations where guys who have
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  Speaker 6: not worked out in a certain franchise come to another
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  Speaker 6: one and and it's moody, they're sort of bitter, they're
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  Speaker 6: not you know, whatever experience they have sort of jaded
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  Speaker 6: him whatever. Even coming home. You don't know how a
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  Speaker 6: guy's going to be. But I didn't know Mac. I
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  Speaker 6: knew he went to Bowls, which I don't much like,
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  Speaker 6: having gone to Episcopal, But beyond that, it's sort of
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  Speaker 6: a breath of fresh air to see a kid who
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  Speaker 6: genuine seems like a nice.
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  Speaker 3: Kid who.
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  Speaker 6: Hasn't been jaded by the experience and is sort of
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  Speaker 6: embracing it. That's not an always thing in NFL, so.
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  Speaker 4: It's not it's really it's really not.
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  Speaker 5: But let's talk about like him being a former first
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  Speaker 5: round pick and where this comes into play. So Doug
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  Speaker 5: Peterson and I played together with the Green Bay Packers.
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  Speaker 4: The Green Bay Packers.
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  Speaker 5: Under Ron with Mike Hongren always had a belief that
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  Speaker 5: you always wanted to kick the tires on former first
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  Speaker 5: round picks because if the league saw fit that you
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  Speaker 5: were worthy of being drafted in the first round, there's
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  Speaker 5: a level of talent that is there, and sometimes a
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  Speaker 5: talented player can underachieve in their previous destination and they
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  Speaker 5: just simply need a new environment.
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  Speaker 4: A new voice that can unlock those talents.
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  Speaker 5: Then when it comes to the quarterback, Doug Peterson being
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  Speaker 5: in the room in Green Bay, when we would bring
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  Speaker 5: through Jim McMahon and Todd Deptmer and all of these
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  Speaker 5: other guys who were i would say, decorated quarterbacks at
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  Speaker 5: some level, be it in college or in the pros,
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  Speaker 5: but they would kind of come through there. Well, part
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  Speaker 5: of it is it's the most valuable position in football,
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  Speaker 5: and you want to make sure that you always have
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  Speaker 5: talented players in place to either develop and become the
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  Speaker 5: backup to your starter so they in a pinch they
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  Speaker 5: can go in and play, or you want to develop
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  Speaker 5: them to the point that they can become a very
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  Speaker 5: valuable trade commodity. With Mac Jones, because he's had success,
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  Speaker 5: because he's played at a Pro Bowl level in the league,
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  Speaker 5: he is someone that could be a bit of a
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  Speaker 5: bonus pick for the Jaguars in terms of if he plays,
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  Speaker 5: he has to jump in the game. Maybe he's someone
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  Speaker 5: that you can action off at the trade inline, but
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  Speaker 5: more important, maybe someone that just gives you another starter
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  Speaker 5: behind Trevor Lawrence that we don't have to experience what
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  Speaker 5: we went through last year.
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  Speaker 4: Where Trevor is hurt and beat up.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you have enough confidence in the backup where you
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  Speaker 5: are able to tell Trevor, hey Man, sit these couple
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  Speaker 5: games out.
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  Speaker 4: We're good.
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  Speaker 5: The offense will operate just like it's done with you,
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  Speaker 5: and we'll continue to win. So now we get a
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  Speaker 5: healthier version of sixteen as opposed to the beat up
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  Speaker 5: version that kind of limp to the finish at the
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  Speaker 5: end of last season.
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  Speaker 3: Can't have too many good players.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't get rid of good players. The depth
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  Speaker 9: I get to tell them how I'm feeling, tell them
• 16:45
  Speaker 9: where I've been, tell them where I'm going, and really
• 16:48
  Speaker 9: encourage that. One of my goals is, you know, I'm
• 16:51
  Speaker 9: gonna win defensive for the year, you know, and for me,
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: I have to be tier one. I have to be
• 16:57
  Speaker 9: above tier one because these guys already solidified himself that
• 16:59
  Speaker 9: they're looking at. So for me, I have to, Okay,
• 17:02
  Speaker 9: this is what I want. But but then I'm talking
• 17:05
  Speaker 9: to Tyson, it's the same way I'm talking to Devin.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: What do you want to do?
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: I want to win defense? Play here, Well, you're gonna
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: have to beat me, so you're gonna have to work
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: and so like it's that, so now I know, like
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: this is what.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: You want to do.
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna show you. You're gonna show me if you
• 17:21
  Speaker 9: slacking him? Oh you then you say you want people.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: We don't.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: People don't deferent players of years don't do that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm say.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: They don't slap Josh Allen his full comments on Jaguars
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: dot Com Jaguars YouTube as well. And he looks like
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: he's in good shape obviously, and I love hearing him talk,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: just to hear that mindset of a guy at a
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: top level.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I thought he kind of hit his theme for
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: this year, and he was in that clip he said,
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: you know, he knows that people are saying, well, you
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: had a contractyear last year with seventy nine sacks, and
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: he sort of knows that that's gonna be the storyline,
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: and he's saying, you know what I did, But that's not.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Why he believes that he last year.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: In Arizona that he has finally found his best way
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: to prepare. He went back, he said, double down on it, Bucky.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: He looks better physically than he did last year. He
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: looks in his good physical shape as I've ever seen him.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: But his point is, now that I know how.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: To prepare, he's really going to go after.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: It and show that it's not a contract here, that
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: he's just a good player, That it wasn't the contract
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: year that got him seventeen and a half sacks, it's
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: the fact that he's reached that level and now wants
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: to maintain it. I guess it's not the first time
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I've heard that sort of sentiment from a player who's
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: signed a big contract, but I guess I sort of
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: believe it with Josh.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Look, I think there's a lot of things that go
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: with that in terms of believing in him and believing
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: that he can sustain that level of success. The thing
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: about it, though, is there's a level of pressure that
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: comes with getting paid, and when you're paid the big
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: bucks like he's being paid now, there's an expectation that
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: each and every week you're going to deliver, and he
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: understands that, and it's one thing to talk about it,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: it's another thing to be about it. But right now,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: when the Jaguars walk out on defense, all eyes are
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: on forty one, because if he wants to be mentioned
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: in the same category as the TJ. Watts of the world,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: the Miles Garrett of the worlds to Michael Parsons of
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: the world.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Well, now you got to do it every week.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And it's not about having a great year, it's about
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: having a great career. And can you take the seventeen
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: and a half sex and give me close to that
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: same number this year?
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Easier said, hard to do.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Hard to do when you have a target on the
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: back from the opposing team. But when you get paid
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: like he's getting paid, that's the expectation that no matter
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: what man, you expect him to make an impact on
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: the game each and every week.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that is a challenge for Josh. Even last
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: year he had a lot of big SAT games. There
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: are some years he didn't have sex. I'm not I
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: always think about that a little differently than I guess
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: a lot of fans do. I don't necessarily think a
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: pass rusher is all sacks. I think pressures that. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: think sacks can be hard to get because the circumstances sometime.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: But I don't doubt that Josh will impact games consistently.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I do worry a little bit about.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: If he quote only gets fifteen people saying well you paid.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Him fifteen is pretty good too.
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: But I guess my point that is, I don't worry
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: about Josh from the standpoint of I think he finds
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: ways to impact games no matter what his numbers are,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: So I think his value to the team will be
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: high no matter what his numbers are.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, think about it this way too,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: If all of a sudden there is more interest in
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: blocking him or covering him from an offensive back, if
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that opens up some other guys on this defensive by
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, I mean, you know, talking about taking steps. No,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: he's taking steps in the right direction anyway, And if
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: some of the focus changes, then all of a sudden,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Trayvon can get loose or somebody else in that front seven.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: So I'm really excited. I'm really excited about the team.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: And I know I was excited last year, but I'm
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: excited about this team for different reasons. One, I feel
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: like they're flying under the radar. Two, I really think
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: offensively they're going to get back to kind of being
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: the team that we saw more so in twenty twenty
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: two as opposed to twenty twenty three. But defensively, I'm
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: excited about the changes and what Ryan Nilson has the
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: opportunity to do with the players that he has at
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: his disposal.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: When I think.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: About Josh Allen being motivated to be a defensive Player
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: of the Year, Eric Armstead coming over with something to prove,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: and Trayvon Walker beginning to come into his own, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: think the three highly motivated people that want to kind
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: of make their mark on the league. That to me
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: is going to result and look a lot of splash
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: play production, a lot of big time plays from each
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: of these guys, and I just can't wait to see
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: how they're going to put it together. But Trayvon Walker
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: should be the beneficiary, the biggest beneficiary of the attention
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: that Josh Allen commands and Eric Armstead being the consummate
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: professional beside him, I think we will see his game
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: go from good to great this season.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Well, it's three guys, and some teams have this, but
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: not all of them. Certainly, I've been around a lot
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: of teams that haven't. It's three guys on your defensive
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: front that if you're sitting in here in January and
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: any of those three are in the Pro Bowl, you're thinking, Okay,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I can see that. But like talent wise, clearly, Trayvon
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: Walker and everyone overall picked ten sacks last year is
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: what I would call a Pro Bowl talent. I don't
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: know if HEAs guy hasn't gotten there yet. Eric Armstead
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: is a Pro Bowl talent. There are all three reasons
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: the coaches won't be surprised on Monday morning if they
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: turn on the tape and say, Trayvon Walker or Eric
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: Armstead or Josh Allen were the reason that we were
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: dominant yesterday. Everybody else can do that. But you probably
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: walking out of the meeting going, hey, look at this guy.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: All three of those.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: Guys are impact, change the game type defensive players. Seventeen
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: this team had at eighteen.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: A little bit doesn't happen every.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Year, certainly, just not certainly, No, no, it doesn't happen
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: every year.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: But remember, like this defense.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I think this defense ranked with sixteen or seventeen, Like
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: they don't have to make a major improvement, but if
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: they can just get on the fringes of being a
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: top ten defense man, you just talk about how many
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: good things can happen for this team if they're able
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: to do that, and if the team can stop the
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: run first, and then the pass rush shows up. That's
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: gonna make life easy for the guys in the back end,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: because remember they're gonna play snugger tired or more press coverage,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: more man deament on the outside. That should shrink some
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: of the wins those that were available in the past.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: It could be a big thing. Now there's a lot
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: of speculation, and we're pending our hopes on the upside.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: But I think this unit can be a lot better,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: far more physical and disruptive than maybe we've seen this
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: unit in the past.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: And that says a lot considering the amount of.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Tune overs that this team produced, this defense produced the
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: last two years.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: It was my final question of the off season for
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: the Scout. Wow, the scout maybe the coach slash analysts
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: slash scout slash party guy.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we found out earlier in this show. Why wouldn't
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: this team be really good against the run?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Bucky?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Meaning, you know, you've got I think.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: One trait that Josh, Trayvon and Eric Armstead all three had.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: They seem very stout. You also have Davon Hamilton. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: mean to me, this shapes up like it could be
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: a really really good defensive front. Maybe again, we're just
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: looking at the upside, injuries, whatever. But I think that
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: could be the thing that we're not thinking about that much,
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: or they could really be good.
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I'm with you on that this unit in a different
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: defense could be a lot better than people imagine, because
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: the talent is certainly there when you look at the
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: front line, however you stack it, Josh Allen, Eric Armstead,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Chevron Walker on the outside, whoever you want to put
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: on the inside were Robertson Harris, you want to put
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: Hamilton inside? Like whoever you want to put inside like?
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: They're good enough on the front four. When you look
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: at the linebacker corps before you, a Lua Khan and
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: a beefed up better version of Devin Lloyd playing like that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Front six can be able to get it done. However
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: you reconfigure the Nickel package. They have enough guys that
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: you can throw into the slot positions to be stout
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: against the run, to take advantage of the edges, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to make tackles in space. I don't know why this
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: team wouldn't be good if they're sound, if they're solid,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: and they didn't understand exactly what to do. To me,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: is not about the talent. It's really about the execution.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Can these talented athletes up front just execute the plan
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: that Ryan Nilson has in mind, Because if the execution
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: is cool and it's simple and they can play fast,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: this team is good enough to overwhun you with their talent.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Playoffs.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Wow, bold, lock it down like you think that's bold. No,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: it's good, Jem.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Yet the team is nine and eight back to back years,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: and I know there's a feeling in Jacksonville like the
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: sky was falling, but the team still finished with a
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: winning record. It's not like a team is having to
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: go from worse to first. The talent has been there
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: and despite Albert Breer from SI saying that they least
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: impactful moves of the off season, to me, they made
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: the right moves uh to help this team get.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Over the hump.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: So I would expect the team to be much better
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: than nine and eight, Like you have to get to
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: ten or eleven wins, and to me, I think it's
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: a doable deal.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: But everyone just has to play.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: They got to play their part if they play, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying they have to play exceptional, but if
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: everyone just kind of does their job, not being like
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: way out of bows or they got to make these
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: quantum leaps. If they just do their job and just
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: play the way that they've played for most of the
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: NFL careers, this team is going to win ten or
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: eleven games.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. I love it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I agree, I love I'm enthusiastic, optimistic, and ready for
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: the off season.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: The off season.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Well wait no longer, John, because we have arrived at
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the off season. Next big date to watch in this
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: off season is June twenty fifth. That is the hope
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: for the city council vote on the stadium agreement, So
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. Then official report day for
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: training camp is July twenty third, a Tuesday. They're on
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the field and there's an acclamation period for like five days.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I think the first five days, starting on the twenty
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: fourth of July, it's a Wednesday, they'll be on the field.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: So that nation period when Bucky played was go hit somebody.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was putting your uniform in pads on that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: first day.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: That's right, let's go right to it, Like, why are
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: we messing around. Let's get right to smack it. I
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: know Toba has change everything, but the pitta pads and
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: let's get to it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Get to work.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: What beat you you going to the summer Bucky Like.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm in
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: La Like, I mean, I don't know what I would do,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: like what point out? I mean, I don't know because
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Santa Monica. Maybe I go down to Laguna kind of
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: hang out in Newport for a little bit.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, trying.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: To tear down.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Do you have a surfboard, Bucky Living? Do you have
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a surfboard?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: No, I don't have a surfboard. I should probably work
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: on that. I should probably work on.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: That, but then you know, I don't want to fall
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: man like like, Look, the water can be like a
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: little a little hard, like you know for the old body.
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's I don't know if that's
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: always can do so for what I want to do
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: and how I want to walk around later, but maybe
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: we'll see.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, never mind the sharks and you know the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: dangerous animals.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Come on, man, jaw Jaws isn't out there, like like
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: come on, like, what are we doing? You're talking about
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: gators and crocodiles and all the animals down.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: There far we're talking about were swimming in the ponds
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: either yeah.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: And the muck straight from them. Get it out the muck.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Come on, if I can't see the bottom, I'm not
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: going in.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So it's a good rule, all right, Buck, have a
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: great off season.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: It should be fun. I guess I'll see you guys
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: in what six six weeks? That's that's that's how much
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: time I get off.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I get six six weeks off to run around and
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: make sure I come making the best shape of my
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: life when I report the training camp.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Are you actually gonna report? Will you be here?
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Ye? See? You see? We gotta see.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Pretty long. More than that, we'll talk to you, Buck.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You have a good one. Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: j P. Shadwick Er.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Thanks to Brent Reeber and Joe Fortunado, and thanks to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you for listening all off season program to the Huddle
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Up Podcast.