Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Julio Foolio Murder Trial - Four Suspects Found Guilty
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Picture this for a second. You are You're down in Tampa, Florida.
- 0:03Oh nice, right, It's a warm night, late June twenty
- 0:07twenty four. The air is super thick with that heavy
- 0:11you know that golf Gulf Coast humidity.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Yeah, you can practically feel it exactly.
- 0:17Speaker 1: And you are celebrating your twenty sixth birthday. You're staying
- 0:21at the Home two suites on McKinley Dry, which is
- 0:24just this perfectly ordinary, really nice hotel.
- 0:27Speaker 2: It's a standard spot, right, and all week.
- 0:29Speaker 1: And long, you have been doing what I mean, what
- 0:31millions of people do every single weekend. You've been posting
- 0:34your entire life on Instagram.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Oh yeah, standard birthday behavior totally.
- 0:38Speaker 1: You're sharing clips from these pool parties, You're tagging the
- 0:41specific clubs you're bouncing between. You know, you are just
- 0:44broadcasting your joy, your outfits, your.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Crew, getting it all in right.
- 0:48Speaker 1: You are soaking up the attention because it's supposed to
- 0:51be this weekend of celebration, you know, a weekend of life.
- 0:55Speaker 2: It's like the ultimate modern ritual, right, we all do it.
- 0:58You go somewhere special, you goot your location, you let
- 1:01your followers know exactly where you are yep, look at me.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Look how much fun I'm having.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Exactly, But you're also leaving this digital breadcrumb trail of
- 1:09your entire weekend in real time.
- 1:12Speaker 1: And that is where things take a really dark turn.
- 1:14Because we fast forward to four am on June twenty third.
- 1:18The clubs have finally closed.
- 1:20Speaker 2: It's late, super late.
- 1:21Speaker 1: You and your friends walk out of the hotel lobby
- 1:24and you're heading toward your Dodge charger in the parking lot.
- 1:27You are exhausted, your guard is completely.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Down, which is when it happens.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Yeah, waiting in the shadows of this completely ordinary hotel
- 1:35parking lot is a scenario straight out of a military operation.
- 1:40Speaker 2: It's so jarring.
- 1:41Speaker 1: It is three men dressed head to toe in black,
- 1:44wearing face masks. They just step out of a Chevy
- 1:47and Paula. And they aren't just holding standard handguns. They
- 1:50are carrying modified ar style.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Rifle, which is terrifying enough on its own.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Right, but it gets worse. Attached to the sides of
- 1:57those rifles are these devices called brass catchers.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Yeah. Those, They're incredibly specific.
- 2:01Speaker 1: They are mesh bags specifically engineered to trap the empty
- 2:05bullet casings as the guns are fired, so they ensure
- 2:08that absolutely no physical evidence ever hits the pavement.
- 2:11Speaker 2: It is the most terrifying justice position imaginable. I mean, really,
- 2:16we have a victim engaged in the ultimate act of
- 2:18public vulnerability.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Proodcasting a birthday party to the entire.
- 2:22Speaker 2: World exactly, and that colligns with an ambush designed to
- 2:26be completely forensically invisible. It's a highly tactical hit squad
- 2:30operating with just an almost surgical level of premeditation.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep dive today. We are looking at
- 2:37a case that is frankly going to fundamentally change how
- 2:40you view your smartphone.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Yeah, and your social media apps too, for.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Sure, and really just the very concept of your own
- 2:46safety in public spaces. So our mission today is to
- 2:48examine the landmark May eighth, twenty twenty six verdict in
- 2:52the murder trial of Jacksonville drill rapper Julio Fulio.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Whose real name was Charles Andrew Jones, the.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Second right, And we are pulling from just an absolute
- 3:02mountain of comprehensive reporting on the trial itself, the massive
- 3:05multi agency investigation that happened before it, and the decade
- 3:09long gang feud that ultimately boiled over into that Tampa
- 3:12parking lot.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking at a vast collection of trial transcripts,
- 3:16investigative timelines, psychological profiles. We're even digging into the financial
- 3:21mechanics of the music industry.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Which is a huge part of this.
- 3:25Speaker 2: It really is. It served as the whole backdrop for
- 3:27this entire tragedy.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this because I want to be really
- 3:31really clear up front here. This is not just a
- 3:33standard true crime story.
- 3:35Speaker 2: No, definitely not.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Like, if you think this is just a story about
- 3:38some localized gang rivalry, you are completely missing the much bigger,
- 3:43much darker picture. This is a modern tragedy about how
- 3:47the digital age has completely re engineered human conflict.
- 3:51Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Thanks.
- 3:52Speaker 3: We are talking about how social media, live streaming, and
- 3:55the streaming algorithms of the global music industry have taken
- 3:59these street level rivalries and turn them into something vastly more.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Lethal and vastly more visible.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Right, and bizarrely vastly more profitable.
- 4:07Speaker 2: What's fascinating here, and I think what makes this case
- 4:10a defining moment in modern criminal justice is the paradox
- 4:14right at the center of the crime.
- 4:16Speaker 1: The brass catchers versus the Instagram stories.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Exactly, you have this ambush executed with military grade tactical precision.
- 4:24You've got cross state coordination, dedicated lookout vehicles, forensic countermeasures.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Like the bags on the guns.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Right. Yet this incredibly sophisticated hit was ultimately unraveled using
- 4:36the exact same digital vanity, the exact same careless addiction
- 4:41to smartphones that the victim himself used to build his fame.
- 4:44Speaker 1: And that is exactly why you listening right now really
- 4:47need to care about this. You might not listen to
- 4:49drill music, you know, you might never ever go to Jacksonville.
- 4:52Speaker 2: But you live in the same digital ecosystem we all do.
- 4:55Speaker 1: We all live in a world where online clout we're
- 4:57getting likes and streams and followers has real world consequences.
- 5:02This case just shows us the absolute extreme end of
- 5:06that attention economy.
- 5:07Speaker 2: A place where visibility carries a literal life or death
- 5:10price tag.
- 5:10Speaker 1: It forces us to ask what happens when the digital
- 5:13world bleeds violently and irreparably into the physical.
- 5:16Speaker 2: One, and to understand the magnitude of that bleed, we
- 5:19really need to start at the culmination of this entire saga.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Right, let's go straight to the end.
- 5:23Speaker 2: First, Let's place ourselves in Hillsborough County, Tampa, on the
- 5:27evening of May eighth, twenty twenty six. The atmosphere inside
- 5:32that courtroom was described by all the reporters there as
- 5:35just incredibly tense.
- 5:37Speaker 1: I can only imagine.
- 5:38Speaker 2: You have a gallery packed with spectators, grieving family members
- 5:42on both sides, a massive media presence, and then the
- 5:45jury walks back in to deliver their verdict.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Wait, I really want to pause on the timing of that,
- 5:50because it really stood out to me.
- 5:51Speaker 2: In the sources, the eight hours.
- 5:53Speaker 1: Yes, they delivered the verdict in eight hours. Eight hours
- 5:57of deliberation for a murder trial of this magnitude.
- 6:00Speaker 2: It's incredibly fast.
- 6:01Speaker 1: I mean, I've had friends sit on jury's for simple
- 6:05traffic collision lawsuits that took longer than that to deliberate.
- 6:08Speaker 2: It is an extraordinarily fast turnaround, especially when you consider
- 6:12you had four men standing trial simultaneously.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Right, Isaiah Chance, Sean gathright, Rashad Murphy, and dave.
- 6:18Speaker 2: On Murphy exactly, and the jury found every single one
- 6:21of them guilty of first degree premeditated murder in the
- 6:23shooting death of Charles Jones the second Wow, all four
- 6:26of them, all four. Furthermore, they were all convicted of
- 6:30conspiracy to commit first degree murder and for the three
- 6:33men identified as the actual trigger pollers that.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Was Gathright and the two Murphy cousins.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Right now. Yes, the jury tacked on attempted second degree
- 6:41murder charges for the three other passengers who were wounded
- 6:44inside that dodge charger.
- 6:46Speaker 1: But I mean, how does a jury sift through weeks
- 6:50of testimony, mountains of digital forensics and try to parse
- 6:54out the distinct roles of four different defendants in just
- 6:57eight hours.
- 6:58Speaker 2: It's a lot to process.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I hear the word conspiracy, I immediately think of this
- 7:02incredibly complex puzzle where defense attorneys are fighting tooth and
- 7:07nail over every single piece.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Well, the speed tells us two really important things about
- 7:11the mechanics of this trial. First, it means the digital
- 7:14evidence presented by the prosecution wasn't just circumstantial, it was solid.
- 7:17It was an airtight, interlocking mosaic. But more importantly, it
- 7:21speaks to how modern conspiracy law works.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Okay, how so, and how.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Effectively the state utilized it in complex cases with multiple defendants.
- 7:29The standard defense playbook is always fragmentation.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Right, point the finger at the other guy.
- 7:34Speaker 2: An attorney will stand up and say, look, my client
- 7:37was just driving the car. He didn't have a gun,
- 7:39he didn't pull a trigger. You cannot hold him responsible
- 7:42for the actions of the guy in the back seat.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Right. They're trying to isolate the intent, trying to say,
- 7:46you know, I agreed to a fistfight maybe, but definitely
- 7:50not a homicide.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Exactly the strategy. But the prosecution built this narrative that
- 7:55the jury wholly accepted. Under modern legal frameworks, a highlight
- 8:00coordinated network is treated as a single lethal organism.
- 8:04Speaker 1: The single organism.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Wow, if you are the eyes of that organism, you know,
- 8:08tracking the target across state lines, you are just as
- 8:11guilty as the hands holding the weapon. You share the
- 8:13specific intent to kill.
- 8:15Speaker 1: So if you're just the lookout providing the GPS coordinates,
- 8:19the law views you as having basically pulled the trigger yourself.
- 8:23Speaker 2: From a culpability standpoint, yes, the premeditation is shared across
- 8:27the board, and the jury clearly refused to separate the
- 8:30lookouts from the shooters, and.
- 8:31Speaker 1: The stakes of that refusal are absolute, aren't they?
- 8:34Speaker 2: Completely because of the first degree premeditated murder convictions. All
- 8:39four of these men are now facing the death penalty.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Man, I do want to mention a piece of context
- 8:45from the sources that complicates this just a little bit though.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Oh the fifth defendant, Yeah.
- 8:48Speaker 1: There was a fifth co defendant in this wider conspiracy,
- 8:51Alicia Andrews. She was the girlfriend of Isaiah Chance, who
- 8:54was one of the convicted lookouts. Right, But her trial
- 8:57didn't happen in May twenty twenty six, was severed from
- 9:00the guys and she actually went to trial back in
- 9:03October twenty twenty five, and her outcome was quite different.
- 9:07Speaker 2: It was her jury convicted her of manslaughter, not first
- 9:11degree murder. Why the difference, Well, during her trial, the
- 9:15state actually conceded that she was not a member of
- 9:18any gang and there was absolutely no evidence she ever
- 9:20handled the weapon. Okay, However, the prosecution mapped out her
- 9:24role as a vital logistical hub. She was the one
- 9:26who rented the Airbnb in Tampa under.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Her own name, ah leaving a paper trail.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Yes, she was in the car relaying location updates. So
- 9:35the manslaughter conviction indicates her jury believe her actions recklessly
- 9:39contributed to a homicide, but they perhaps felt she lacked
- 9:42the specific, cold blooded premeditation to execute the target that
- 9:47the four male defendants possessed.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Okay, so we have four men facing the ultimate penalty
- 9:52in Florida for driving two hundred miles to execute a
- 9:55coordinated ambush.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Yes, a hit like.
- 9:57Speaker 1: That requires severe, deeply roo a hatred to understand why
- 10:02someone takes on that level of risk. We can't just
- 10:04stay in the courtroom. We have to rewind the clock.
- 10:07We have to leave Tampa, exactly, leave Tampa and go
- 10:10north to the streets of Jacksonville. We need to look
- 10:13at the environment that manufacture Julio Fulio.
- 10:15Speaker 2: The origin story of Charles Andrew Jones. The second is
- 10:18absolutely foundational to everything that happened in that parking lot.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:22Speaker 1: So, he was born on June twenty first, nineteen ninety eight, and.
- 10:25Speaker 2: He was raised on the north side of Jacksonville, specifically
- 10:28in a neighborhood known as Moncreef.
- 10:30Speaker 1: For those unfamiliar with Jacksonville's geography, Moncreefs is basically the
- 10:34geographic and cultural heart of what is known on the
- 10:36streets as the six block set right and.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Six Block is a faction that operates under a much larger,
- 10:43loosely affiliated collective known as KTA.
- 10:45Speaker 1: And KTA stands for Kill Them All.
- 10:49Speaker 2: I mean, just the acronym alone tells you what the
- 10:52baseline reality is in this environment.
- 10:54Speaker 1: It really paints a picture.
- 10:55Speaker 2: It's a community that has been historically marginalized, dealing with
- 10:59deeply in trend poverty and just a profound lack of
- 11:02civic resources which creates this vacuum that gang structures inevitably fill.
- 11:08Speaker 1: It is an environment where trauma isn't an acute, rare event,
- 11:11it's chronic. It's practically part of the weather.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And for Charles Jones, the defining psychological rupture of his
- 11:18entire childhood occurred in twenty eleven. His father, Charles Andrew
- 11:22Jones Senior, who went by the street name Rick the Ruler,
- 11:26was murdered and.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Charles was only thirteen years old when that happened.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Just thirteen. I really want to pause and dig into
- 11:32the mechanics of what happens to a human being at
- 11:34that age when they are exposed to that level of violence.
- 11:37Speaker 2: Please do, because it's so important. Developmentally, early adolescence is
- 11:41when your brain is aggressively wiring its understanding of the world.
- 11:46Your prefrontal cortex is trying to establish a baseline of safety.
- 11:50When a parent is murdered, and in this case the
- 11:53source's note his father was shot by a neighbor who
- 11:56was a registered sex offender over a localized dispute, that
- 12:00baseline of safety is permanently annihilated.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I was actually reading in the sources that this wasn't
- 12:04even his first exposure to a shooting, which is just
- 12:07tragic no way. Our sources state that two years earlier,
- 12:10around two thousand and nine, when he was just eleven,
- 12:13he literally witnessed the mother of his best friend.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Gets shot right in front of him.
- 12:18Speaker 1: So by a time he is entering high school, his
- 12:20brain is practically marinating in cortisol. How does a kid's
- 12:24psychology even adapt to that.
- 12:26Speaker 2: We look at this through the mechanism of complex environmental trauma.
- 12:30When a developing nervous system realizes the environment is inherently lethal,
- 12:34it shifts from a state of growth to a state
- 12:37of permanent hypervigilance.
- 12:38Speaker 1: You're just always on edge.
- 12:39Speaker 2: Trust becomes a biological impossibility. In a healthy environment, a
- 12:44child seeks safety through community, through their parents through authority figures.
- 12:49But in an environment where guns are ubiquitous and authority
- 12:53figures are either absent or viewed as hostile, the psychological
- 12:56response shifts entirely.
- 12:58Speaker 1: You have to protect yourself.
- 13:00Speaker 2: You seek safety through armament. You seek safety by becoming
- 13:04the most dangerous thing in the room.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Which perfectly explains his transformation. The sources mentioned he was
- 13:10actually a really talented athlete. He had dreams of playing football.
- 13:13He did, but after his dad's murder, the football dreams
- 13:16just fade away. He starts carrying a firearm at a
- 13:19very early age. He adopts this wildly unpredictable, chaotic persona
- 13:24as a defense mechanism.
- 13:25Speaker 2: He becomes folio.
- 13:27Speaker 1: Yes, it wasn't a marketing gimmick. Initially, it was psychological armor.
- 13:30If you act crazy, if you act completely untouchable, maybe
- 13:33people will leave you alone.
- 13:34Speaker 2: But he still needed an outlet for that trauma, and
- 13:37he found it in the exact place you'd expect for
- 13:40a teenager in the twenty tens.
- 13:42Speaker 1: He found it in music, specifically the exploding subgenre of
- 13:46drill rap.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Let's talk about drill music for a second, because the
- 13:49history here is crucial to the case.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Right. So Drill originates in Chicago around twenty eleven twenty twelve,
- 13:56with artists like Chief Keef Yeah, And it is very
- 13:59different from the nineties gangster rap of like Tupac or Biggie,
- 14:03which often relied on storytelling, cinematic metaphors, and broader social commentary.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Rill is hyper local, extremely.
- 14:10Speaker 1: It is raw, it is unpolished, and the lyrics are
- 14:13essentially real time reporting on neighborhood violence.
- 14:16Speaker 2: And Folio takes that Chicago template and he injects it
- 14:20with his own Jacksonville reality.
- 14:22Speaker 1: He starts releasing tracks around twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen,
- 14:25songs like Crooks in twenty eighteen, and later a track
- 14:28called Voodoo, and they start doing massive numbers on YouTube,
- 14:32millions of use, millions. The algorithms just start picking him up.
- 14:35Speaker 2: But I'm looking at this progression and I have to ask,
- 14:38at what point does documenting your survival turn into actively
- 14:42painting a target on your own back.
- 14:44Speaker 1: That is the million dollar question.
- 14:46Speaker 2: Because the defining feature of Drill is that you aren't
- 14:48just rapping about fictional rivalries. You are rapping about real people,
- 14:52real addresses, and real murders.
- 14:55Speaker 1: This gets to the absolute core mechanism of the drill
- 14:58rap archetype. In this specific genre, the absolute primary currency
- 15:03is authenticity.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Can't fake it.
- 15:05Speaker 1: You cannot the audience. You know that millions of teenagers
- 15:08streaming this on their phones in the suburbs. The record executives,
- 15:12the local rivals. They do not want clever wordplay, They
- 15:15demand proof. Right, the artist has to continuously prove that
- 15:19they are actively living the violence they describe on the track.
- 15:22Speaker 2: So you can't just be a narrator. You have to
- 15:24be an active combatant.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Precisely, which creates this perverse and incredibly dangerous economic incentive.
- 15:30If the algorithm rewards authenticity with virality, and virality leads
- 15:35to record deals.
- 15:36Speaker 2: And wealth, then the only way to secure your financial
- 15:38future is to continuously prove your proximity to death.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Exactly for Folio, his discography became a live, updating diary
- 15:45of his trauma, but because of how the industry works,
- 15:48that diary had to be published globally for his enemies
- 15:51to scrutinize.
- 15:52Speaker 2: It turns his art into a publicly available map of
- 15:55a very real war.
- 15:56Speaker 1: It does, and that brings us to the actual mechanics
- 15:59of the feud that the jury had to understand. To
- 16:02make sense of the Tampa ambush, the prosecution had to
- 16:05map out a decade of bloodshed, and it is a.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Deeply complex map. On one side, you have Solio and
- 16:11his crew six block and the KTA collective based on
- 16:13the north side. On the opposing side, you have a
- 16:15faction known as ATK. Investigators believe ATK stands for Ace's
- 16:20Top Killers, and they operate in a tide alliance with
- 16:22groups from the twelve hundred block on the east side of.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Jacksonville, and ATK is heavily associated with another very prominent,
- 16:29highly successful Jacksonville rapper named young Jen Ace Correct.
- 16:33Speaker 2: And this feud wasn't just a low level simmer. It
- 16:35reached an absolute boiling point between twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen.
- 16:38Speaker 1: The violence was a reciprocal and it moved incredibly fast.
- 16:42A massive flashpoint in this timeline was the murder of
- 16:45Fulio's cousin, a young man named Zion Malik Brown, and on.
- 16:49Speaker 2: The streets, that killing was immediately attributed to associates of ATK.
- 16:54Speaker 1: And the mechanism of street justice dictates that a slight
- 16:58of that magnitude can and not go unanswered. The retaliation
- 17:02has to be proportionate, if not greater, to restore the
- 17:05balance of respect.
- 17:06Speaker 2: So a retaliatory ambush occurs. A vehicle carrying Young gen
- 17:11Ace and three of his close associates is targeted horrible shooting.
- 17:15Ace survives with severe injuries, but his three friends, who
- 17:18are known by their street names twenty three E to
- 17:21two X and four are killed.
- 17:22Speaker 1: And from that moment the violence just spirals out of control.
- 17:26Funerals are being shot up. It becomes highly performative.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Very public.
- 17:29Speaker 1: But what makes this specific Jacksonville gang war so historically unique,
- 17:33and what became the focal point of the prosecution's case
- 17:36in Tampa, was how the music acted as an accelerant.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Right, The music didn't just reflect the violence, it's directed it.
- 17:42The quintessential example of this is a track released by
- 17:45Young gen Ace and his affiliates called who I Smoke.
- 17:48Speaker 1: We should probably explain the terminology here because it's vital
- 17:51context in drill culture. To say you are smoking someone
- 17:54is the ultimate desecration.
- 17:56Speaker 2: It means you are metaphorically rolling the ashes of a
- 17:59murdered rye into a blunt and smoking it.
- 18:03Speaker 1: It is an unimaginably disrespectful taunt and the track who
- 18:08I Smoke went massively.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Viral because of the sample Right Yeah.
- 18:12Speaker 1: It sampled a breezy pop song by Vanessa Carlton, creating
- 18:16this surreal upbeat backdrop while they name dropped the dead
- 18:20friends of six Bloc members.
- 18:22Speaker 2: It was essentially mocking the grief of Fulio's community on
- 18:25a global stage.
- 18:26Speaker 1: And under the rules of the genre, Fulio could not
- 18:28let that track exist without a response. His credibility and
- 18:32therefore his whole career, demanded a counter strike.
- 18:35Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty one, he releases a remix a.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Track called when I See You, and he doesn't use metaphors,
- 18:41he uses direct haunts. He mocks the specific shooting where
- 18:44Ace lost his three friends. He literally poses in front
- 18:47of banners depicting the decease.
- 18:49Speaker 2: The audacity of it is just staggering. He's weaponizing their
- 18:52trauma right back at them.
- 18:53Speaker 1: And our sources point out that this performative disrespect eventually
- 18:56transcended just music videos.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Oh the Graveyard ins Yes.
- 19:00Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, Fulio and some of his associates
- 19:03literally went to a Jacksonville graveyard. They filmed themselves desecrating
- 19:08the actual physical graves of rival gang members, and they
- 19:11uploaded the footage to the Internet.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Prosecutors at the trial pointed to this specific graveyard incident
- 19:17as the catalyst that pushed the feud past the point
- 19:19of no return.
- 19:20Speaker 1: It severed any lingering possibility of a truce.
- 19:23Speaker 2: You can track the psychological toll this took on Fulio
- 19:25by simply looking at his album releases. In twenty nineteen,
- 19:29he drops a project Cold Never Wanted Fame. By twenty
- 19:32twenty two, as the bodies are piling up, he releases
- 19:35Life of Me, and then with Chilling Foresight. In April
- 19:39twenty twenty four, just two months before he is murdered
- 19:41in Tampa, he releases a project titled Resurrection.
- 19:44Speaker 1: He knew he was living on borrowed time, I mean
- 19:46the sources document multiple prior attempts on his life.
- 19:49Speaker 2: He survived a shooting in Houston in twenty.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Twenty three, and later that same year, in October, he
- 19:53was ambushed in Jacksonville and shot in the foot. He
- 19:56knew the crosshairs were on him.
- 19:58Speaker 2: This phenomenon is what sociologists studying the genre call the
- 20:01feedback loop. It's a closed, self sustaining mechanical cycle.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Okay, walk us through the steps of that loop.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Step one, a murder occurs on the street, step two,
- 20:13and artist goes into the studio and records a hyper
- 20:15specific diss track about the murder. Right step three, the
- 20:20track is uploaded, and the algorithm, which favors high engagement
- 20:24and controversy, pushes it to millions of listeners.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, This is where I really want to
- 20:28push back on the standard narrative that we always hear. Okay,
- 20:31go ahead, because when I watch the news, law enforcement
- 20:34and politicians always frame this strictly as a gang problem.
- 20:37They talk about broken communities and violent young men.
- 20:40Speaker 2: That's the typical talking point.
- 20:42Speaker 1: But let's follow the money here. Let's look at the
- 20:43mechanism of that feedback loop you just mentioned. There is
- 20:46a massive, incredibly lucrative corporate infrastructure wrapped around this bloodshed,
- 20:52the monetization of the feud exactly. Fulio wasn't just uploading
- 20:55MP three's from his bedroom. He was signed to create records.
- 20:58You have distribution. It works pr teams and tech giants
- 21:02at the platforms streaming the music who are actively hosting
- 21:05and profiting off this documented violence.
- 21:08Speaker 2: It's a huge industry.
- 21:10Speaker 1: Every time a kid in Iowa streams when I See
- 21:13You because they want to hear the drama, a fraction
- 21:15of assent is generated. That fraction goes to Spotify, it
- 21:18goes to Apple, it goes to the label, and it
- 21:20goes to the artists.
- 21:21Speaker 2: And then the artist takes those streaming royalties the money
- 21:24generated by mocking a death and uses it to fund
- 21:28cash bounties for the next retaliatory strike on the street.
- 21:32Speaker 1: It's a localized gang war that is being funded by
- 21:36global corporate algorithms.
- 21:38Speaker 2: When you lay it out like that, it's pretty disturbing.
- 21:40Speaker 1: The tech platforms are essentially acting as defense contractors for
- 21:44street games. They provide the platform, they take a cut
- 21:47of the profits, and they look the other way when
- 21:49the lyrics turn into corner reports.
- 21:51Speaker 2: It introduces profound ethical questions about complicity. But from the
- 21:55perspective of the Tampa prosecutors who had to explain the
- 21:59mechanic of this feud to a jury, this economic engine
- 22:03changes the very structure of how these gangs operate. How
- 22:06so well. Expert witnesses from the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Gang
- 22:10Unit testified that you cannot view these groups through the
- 22:13lens of the traditional Italian mafia.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Right, it's not a pyramid. There's no Tony Soprano giving
- 22:17orders from the top down.
- 22:19Speaker 2: No, the structure is completely horizontal. Law enforcement views groups
- 22:23like KTA and ATK as fluid collaborative.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Networks just loose affiliations exactly.
- 22:28Speaker 2: They are young men bound together by shared geographic trauma,
- 22:32the pursuit of social media clout, and the inescapable economic gravity.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Of the get back the get back retaliation.
- 22:39Speaker 2: If someone on your side is killed, you have to
- 22:42get back at the rivals. If you don't, you lose
- 22:44your street credibility, and in the drill economy, if you
- 22:47lose your credibility, your streaming numbers plummet. Violence is quite
- 22:52literally a prerequisite for revenue.
- 22:55Speaker 1: So by the summer of twenty twenty four, Juliofulio is
- 22:58not just a hated rival, is an incredibly high value.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Target a massive price.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Taking him out wouldn't just be revenge for the graveyard disrespect.
- 23:06It would be a massive career boosting status symbol for
- 23:10the ATK and twelve hundred Block affiliates.
- 23:12Speaker 2: And tragically, Fulio's own addiction to that very same digital
- 23:16ecosystem was about to hand his rivals the exact coordinates
- 23:19they needed.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Which brings us back to the timeline of June twenty
- 23:22first to June twenty third, twenty twenty four. The execution
- 23:26in Tampa is a masterclass in how digital stocking has
- 23:28revolutionized modern murder.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Let's walk through the mechanics of that weekend.
- 23:33Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Friday, June twenty first is Julio's twenty sixth birthday.
- 23:37He decides to get out of Jacksonville, probably to avoid
- 23:40the local heat, and he travels down Ice seventy five
- 23:43to Tampa.
- 23:43Speaker 2: He supposedly wants a weekend of celebration.
- 23:45Speaker 1: But celebration for an artist whose entire brand is visibility
- 23:49means broadcasting every single move that'trual. He starts posting on
- 23:53his Instagram stories. He's filming the pool parties, he's tagging
- 23:56the specific nightclubs he's attending. He is continual updating the
- 24:01entire world on his exact spatial coordinates.
- 24:03Speaker 2: And the prosecution demonstrated exactly how the defendants weaponized that
- 24:06data stream. They weren't driving around Tampa randomly hoping to spot.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Him, No, they knew exactly where he was.
- 24:12Speaker 2: They were watching his digital footprint in real time from Jacksonville.
- 24:16When the location was confirmed, the hit squad mobilized.
- 24:19Speaker 1: You had the five co defendants traveling south.
- 24:22Speaker 2: And crucially, they compartmentalized their roles. Alicia Andrews and Isaiah
- 24:28Chance operated as the advanced team. They were the intelligence gatherers.
- 24:32Speaker 1: I try to picture the actual reality of that. You
- 24:34have an advanced team tracking a target through a crowded,
- 24:37unfamiliar city.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Its intense surveillance.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Our sources show they tracked Fulio and his entourage across
- 24:43two different Tampa nightclubs. They are blending into the crowd,
- 24:47watching his movements and texting updates to the heavily armed
- 24:51trailing vehicle.
- 24:52Speaker 2: And eventually, after the club's close, Fulio's group rents an Airbnb.
- 24:56Speaker 1: But the police end up getting called like Leonnoi's complainer
- 25:00capacity issue, and the party is dispersed.
- 25:02Speaker 2: So the target is flushed out. Fullio's group has to
- 25:05find a new place to sleep.
- 25:07Speaker 1: At three or four in the morning, they relocate to
- 25:09the home two suites by Hilton on McKinley Drive, right
- 25:12near the University of South Florida campus.
- 25:14Speaker 2: And because the surveillance network is actively tethered to them.
- 25:17The hit squad follows them right into the parking lot.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Which brings us to the ambush. At four am, Fulio
- 25:23and three of his friends walk out of the hotel lobby.
- 25:26They get into a dodge charger and the trap closes.
- 25:29The three shooters emerge from their Chevy Impala. Prosecutors identified
- 25:34them via various evidentiary threads as Sean Gathwright, Rashad Murphy,
- 25:38and Davion Murphy.
- 25:40Speaker 2: They are dressed in black tactical gear, they wear masks,
- 25:43and the weaponry they deploy is devastating.
- 25:46Speaker 1: One of the shooters is armed with a glock pistol
- 25:48that has been fitted with an extended.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Magazine, which is significant very.
- 25:53Speaker 1: A standard magazine holds maybe fifteen to seventeen rounds. An
- 25:57extended mag can hold thirty or more, allowing for us
- 26:00sustained volume of suppressive fire without the need to reload.
- 26:03Speaker 2: And the other two men are carrying modified AR style rifles.
- 26:06Speaker 1: And this is where we have to talk about the
- 26:08brass catchers, because this detail is what elevates this from
- 26:12a street shooting to an assassination.
- 26:15Speaker 2: From a forensic perspective, the deployment of brass catchers is
- 26:18the most chilling aspect of a physical crime. To understand
- 26:21why we really have to explain the basic physics of
- 26:24a firearm, please do. When a semi automatic rifle fires
- 26:27a bullet, the explosive gas pushes the projectile forward out
- 26:31the barrel, but the weapons bolt carrier group moves backward.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Right the recoil.
- 26:35Speaker 2: It extracts the empty brass shell casing from the chamber
- 26:39and forcefully ejects it out the side of the gun
- 26:42onto the ground so the next live round can be loaded.
- 26:45Speaker 1: And to a crime scene investigator, those empty brass casings
- 26:49are the absolute holy grail. They are essentially metallic fingerprints.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Exactly when the firing pin strikes the primer and when
- 26:56the extractor pulls the casing out, the metal of the
- 26:59gun lead microscopic scratches and tool marks on the brass.
- 27:03Speaker 1: A ballistics expert can put that casing under a microscope
- 27:06and match it to the exact barrel and firing pin
- 27:09that ejected it.
- 27:10Speaker 2: You recover the casings, you run them through the item database,
- 27:13the National Integrated Ballistic Information Network, and you can see
- 27:17if that specific gun was used in a shooting in
- 27:20Jacksonville three years ago.
- 27:21Speaker 1: It builds a history of the weapon.
- 27:23Speaker 2: But a brass catcher is a piece of mash or
- 27:26canvas that attaches over the ejection port of the rifle.
- 27:29When the gun fires, the casing doesn't fly onto the pavement,
- 27:33It bounces directly into the bag, so.
- 27:35Speaker 1: When the shooter runs away, they take all the forensic
- 27:37evidence with them.
- 27:38Speaker 2: It is a modification designed for the sole purpose of
- 27:41blinding law enforcement.
- 27:42Speaker 1: It is genuinely calculating. They had the foresight, the cold
- 27:46logic to purchase and attach these bags to ensure they
- 27:49were forensic ghosts.
- 27:51Speaker 2: But and I keep coming back to this because it's
- 27:54so baffling. They got all their targeting intelligence from an
- 27:57Instagram story.
- 27:58Speaker 1: The cognitive dissonance is staggering. They are utilizing military grade
- 28:03forensic countermeasures, yet their operational security on the digital side
- 28:07is practically non existent.
- 28:10Speaker 2: But in the terrifying chaos of that parking lot, the
- 28:13physical tactics worked flawlessly.
- 28:15Speaker 1: The hotel surveillance video that was shown at the trial
- 28:18is horrifying. It shows the dodge charger trying to flee.
- 28:22You see the car put into gear, trying to accelerate
- 28:24out of a kill zone. But the shooters just surround
- 28:26the vehicle.
- 28:27Speaker 2: It is a wall of lead.
- 28:28Speaker 1: The windshield shatters, the doors are perforated.
- 28:31Speaker 2: During the trial, doctor Noah Riley, the medical examiner, had
- 28:34to walk the jury through the autopsy results. Fullyo sustained
- 28:38multiple gunshot wounds.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Where was he hit?
- 28:40Speaker 2: He was hidden the chest, the back, and the right arm.
- 28:42The rounds penetrated his lung, his heart, and his ajorda.
- 28:46Oh my god. The internal damage was catastrophic. Doctor Riley
- 28:50noted he lost roughly two liters of blood internally. Survival
- 28:54was an anatomical impossibility. He died in the parking lot.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Three of his friends and the charger were all so struck,
- 29:00sustaining severe but ultimately non fatal wounds. The gunmen cease fire,
- 29:05get back into the Chevy and Paula and drive off
- 29:08into the night.
- 29:08Speaker 2: And when the Tampa Police Department arrives on the scene,
- 29:11they lock down the parking lot. They shine their flashlights
- 29:14on the pavement, and just.
- 29:15Speaker 1: As the shooters designed, there are no rifle casings.
- 29:18Speaker 2: The hit squad drove back up I seventy five, believing
- 29:21they had executed a perfect crime. They believe that because
- 29:24they had controlled the physical environment because they had swept
- 29:27up their brass. They had outsmarted the justice system.
- 29:29Speaker 1: But what they failed to realize is that in twenty
- 29:32twenty four, scrubbing a physical crime scene is essentially meaningless
- 29:36if your digital fingerprint is bleeding data all over the ether.
- 29:40Speaker 2: And that brings us to the unraveling of the conspiracy.
- 29:43The investigation that followed is an absolute master class in
- 29:47modern multi agency police work.
- 29:49Speaker 1: The coordination was massive and immediate. You had the Tampa
- 29:52Police Department working the physical scene, recognizing immediately that this
- 29:57was a targeted hit.
- 29:58Speaker 2: They contacted the Jacksonville share us off his gang unit
- 30:01to provide the intelligence on who would actually want Fulio
- 30:04dead right.
- 30:05Speaker 1: And Susie Lopez, the State Attorney for Hillsborough County, coordinated
- 30:09the legal framework to start issuing warrants. They knew they
- 30:12weren't looking for Tampa locals. They were hunting a cross
- 30:15state hit squad.
- 30:16Speaker 2: And if you look at the timeline of the arrests,
- 30:18it is incredibly methodical. The shooting happens on June twenty third,
- 30:23just over a month later. By July twenty seventh, law
- 30:27enforcement executes coordinated raids and arrests Isaiah Chance, Sean Gathwright,
- 30:32and Alicia Andrews, and.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Then a few days later they capture Rashad Murphy.
- 30:35Speaker 2: The final fugitive, Davion Murphy, manages to evade them for
- 30:39a few months, but they finally track him down to
- 30:41an apartment complex in Jacksonville and arrest him in January
- 30:44of twenty twenty five.
- 30:45Speaker 1: What built the foundation for those arrest warrants was not
- 30:48an eyewitness pointing a finger in a lineup. It was
- 30:51an avalanche of digital breadcrumbs.
- 30:53Speaker 2: The investigators started subpoening cell phone data. Let's explain how
- 30:57this actually works, because it's terrifyingly precise.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Please, Your cell phone is constantly trying to maintain a
- 31:03connection to the network, even when you aren't making a call.
- 31:07It is performing a digital handshake with the nearest cell
- 31:10tower every few seconds, basically saying I'm here, wrote my
- 31:15data through this antenna.
- 31:17Speaker 1: I have always wondered about that when we say cell
- 31:19phone pings, what does that actually look like on an
- 31:22investigator's screen.
- 31:24Speaker 2: When police get a warrant for historical cell site data,
- 31:27they don't just see a dot on a map. They
- 31:29see a chronological log of every handshake because a cell
- 31:32tower is divided into directional sectors, and because the phone
- 31:35connects to multiple towers at once to gauge signal strength.
- 31:38Speaker 1: They can triangulate it exactly.
- 31:40Speaker 2: Investigators can use geometric triangulation to plot a phone's location
- 31:44down to a highly specific radius.
- 31:47Speaker 1: So they didn't just see the phones in Tampa. They
- 31:49literally watched the digital ghosts of the defendants travel down
- 31:52the I seventy five corridor, arriving in Tampa on the
- 31:55exact same day that Foolier was posting his birthday pictures.
- 31:58Speaker 2: The timeline of the cell data perfectly overlaid the physical
- 32:02timeline of the hit. Furthermore, they followed the paper trail
- 32:05of the.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Advanced team right the Airbnb.
- 32:08Speaker 2: They pulled the records for the airbnb that the police
- 32:10had dispersed earlier in the night. It was rented using
- 32:14an account linked to Alicia Andrews. The digital infrastructure of
- 32:18the conspiracy was hiding in plain sight.
- 32:20Speaker 1: They also extracted text messages. The prosecution obtained messages between
- 32:25the defendants actively coordinating the logistics, discussing locations, sharing updates
- 32:30on folio's movements.
- 32:31Speaker 2: But the detail that truly blows my mind. The piece
- 32:34of evidence that feels almost like a dark comedy is
- 32:37the social media activity.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Oh, this is the craziest part.
- 32:40Speaker 2: Our sources state that while the suspects were physically stalking
- 32:43Folio through the streets of Tampa, they were literally logged
- 32:46into Instagram, liking and commenting on the very stories he
- 32:50was posting.
- 32:51Speaker 1: It reveals a profound psychological blind spot in the modern
- 32:54criminal mind. These individuals grew up in an era where
- 32:58don't leave fingerprints as common knowledge.
- 33:00Speaker 2: They watch crime shows, they know about ballistics.
- 33:03Speaker 1: They put immense effort into controlling the physical domain with
- 33:06masks and brass catchers, but they entirely underestimate, or maybe
- 33:11they just simply cannot comprehend, the omnipresent, invisible architecture of
- 33:15digital surveillance.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Think about the addiction required for that right.
- 33:19Speaker 1: You have the discipline to execute a military style ambush,
- 33:23but you do not have the discipline to leave your
- 33:25personal iPhone, a device that broadcasts your GPS coordinates to
- 33:29a corporate server every three seconds. At home.
- 33:31Speaker 2: You are so addicted to the dopamine loop of Instagram
- 33:35that you log into your personal account to look at
- 33:38the guy you are about to murder.
- 33:39Speaker 1: It's a fatal flaw programmed by Silicon Valley, and yet.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Despite the overwhelming volume of digital evidence, the investigation ultimately
- 33:48required a piece of old school physical forensics to close
- 33:51the loop.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Right because eventually the police executed search warrants on the
- 33:55suspects homes.
- 33:56Speaker 2: The brass catchers worked to the scene, but you still
- 33:58have to put the gun somewhere after the crime.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Precisely, during a search of Sean Gothwright's residence in Jacksonville,
- 34:05investigators recovered the actual firearms. They took those weapons to
- 34:09the state crime lab and test fired them.
- 34:11Speaker 2: They collected the new casings and ran them through the
- 34:14Nibben system, and.
- 34:15Speaker 1: The system lit up because the tool marks on the
- 34:17casings ejected in the lab matched casings recovered from previous
- 34:21crime scenes in Jacksonville.
- 34:23Speaker 2: They matched the gun to the October twenty twenty three
- 34:26incident where Fulio was ambushed and shot in the foot.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Even more damning, they matched it to an unsolved fatal
- 34:32homicide from twenty twenty two. The physical gun itself was
- 34:36a historical ledger of the Gain War.
- 34:38Speaker 2: The prosecution took this monumental pile of evidence. The cell
- 34:42tower triangulations, the Airbnb receipts, the text extractions, the instagram logs,
- 34:46and the ballistics from the recovered weapons, and used it
- 34:49to forge an unbreakable chain of conspiracy.
- 34:51Speaker 1: They specifically highlighted how Alicia Andrews and Isaiah Chance tracked
- 34:55the target across the nightclubs, providing the real time tactical
- 34:58intelligence that allowed the show shooters to position themselves.
- 35:01Speaker 2: It proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that this
- 35:03was not a spontaneous altercation. It was a calculated hunt.
- 35:07Speaker 1: With the investigation complete, the state moves to trial, and
- 35:11this brings us to the spring of twenty twenty six,
- 35:14back to that courtroom in Tampa.
- 35:16Speaker 2: This trial wasn't just a fascinating procedural showing how digital
- 35:19forensics work. It became a major cultural flashpoint.
- 35:22Speaker 1: It tested the legal limits of what the state can
- 35:25use against a defendant, specifically regarding their own art.
- 35:28Speaker 2: The joint trial of the four male defendants was a
- 35:31massive logistical undertaking. The prosecution presented what they termed a
- 35:35damning mosaic of evidence to the jury.
- 35:38Speaker 1: It wasn't about finding one single smoking gun. It was
- 35:41about layering thousands of data points.
- 35:44Speaker 2: They played the hotel surveillance footage showing the caravan of vehicles.
- 35:47They brought in experts to explain the phone extractions.
- 35:50Speaker 1: They had detectives from the JSO gang Unit on Stanford
- 35:53Days explaining the history of KTA and ATK to establish
- 35:57the motive.
- 35:57Speaker 2: But the strategy that caused the most friction, the tactic
- 36:00that defense attorneys thought tooth and nailed to suppress, was
- 36:03the prosecution's use of drill music as literal evidence of
- 36:06a crime.
- 36:07Speaker 1: The state played music videos directly to the jury, videos
- 36:10featuring the defendants and their known affiliates flashing gang signs,
- 36:14brandishing firearms, and wrapping hyper violent lyrics.
- 36:18Speaker 2: The prosecutors argue that in the context of this specific subculture,
- 36:22these songs were not abstract artistic expressions. They were public
- 36:26manifestos declaring a motive to kill.
- 36:30Speaker 1: I read in the sources that it went even further
- 36:32than establishing motive. They actually played a track that was
- 36:36released by an affiliate after the murder in Tampa, a.
- 36:39Speaker 2: Song where the lyrics specifically boasted about the exact number
- 36:42of victims in the Dodge Charger.
- 36:44Speaker 1: And that is exactly where the legal battle lines are drawn.
- 36:48The defense teams argued fiercely that introducing rap lyrics into
- 36:51a murder trial is a fundamental violation of the First Amendment.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Their argument is that rap is an art form historically
- 36:58built on exaggeration, hyperbole, and the adoption of aggressive personas.
- 37:03You are essentially criminalizing poetry.
- 37:05Speaker 1: I want to play Devil's advocate here for a second,
- 37:07because it's a massive ethical question.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Okay, let's hear it.
- 37:10Speaker 1: If I write a screenplay for a horror movie where
- 37:12a character gets murdered at a hotel, and then someone
- 37:15actually gets murdered at a hotel, the police don't arrest
- 37:18me for my script.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Right.
- 37:19Speaker 1: We accept that Stephen King or Quentin Tarantino are creating fiction.
- 37:24So why is there a different standard for young black
- 37:27men making drill music? Are we punishing them for the
- 37:31violent aesthetic of the culture that were born into. Where
- 37:34is the line between a piece of art and a
- 37:36confession set to a beat?
- 37:38Speaker 2: It is a profound debate that is currently raging in
- 37:40appellate courts across the country. Right, But in this specific
- 37:44court room in Tampa, the judge allowed the lyrics to
- 37:47be admitted based on a very specific legal threshold, which
- 37:50was the mechanism of corroboration. The prosecution successfully argued that
- 37:54they were not putting the genre on trial. They pointed
- 37:57out that the lyrics and question weren't broad genericstements about
- 38:00violence like I shoot my enemies right.
- 38:02Speaker 1: There, weren't abstract concepts.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Exactly the opposite, The lyrics contained precise, non public forensic details.
- 38:09When a song boasts about a specific body count at
- 38:12a specific location using a specific type of weapon that
- 38:16exactly matches the medical examiner's report and the ballistic evidence,
- 38:21the art loses its shield of fiction.
- 38:23Speaker 1: The state argued the song was being used to prove
- 38:25that the defendants possessed intimate insider knowledge of the criminal conspiracy.
- 38:30When the art perfectly mirrors the autoxy, it becomes admissible
- 38:34evidence of intent.
- 38:35Speaker 2: The defense teams were facing a monumental uphill battle, but
- 38:39they didn't just fold. They deployed various strategies to try
- 38:42and inject reasonable doubt into the minds of the jury.
- 38:45Speaker 1: We know that Rashad Murphy's defense team actually tried to
- 38:48mount an insanity defense during the pre trial motions, which
- 38:51the judge ultimately rejected.
- 38:53Speaker 2: But during the trial itself they continue to lean heavily
- 38:56into his psychological.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Profile, bringing up mental health evaluations to suggest he lacked
- 39:01the cognitive capacity required to formulate this level of calculated
- 39:05cross state premeditation.
- 39:07Speaker 2: The other primary defense strategy, which circles back to our
- 39:10earlier discussion of conspiracy law, was the attempt to sever
- 39:14the chain.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Of intent, building a firewall.
- 39:17Speaker 2: The attorneys representing the defendants, who were not definitively proven
- 39:20to be the trigger pollers, tried to build that firewall.
- 39:24They argued, essentially, yes, my client was in Tampa. Yes,
- 39:29maybe they were tracking Fulio, maybe they even intended to
- 39:32confront him.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Or fight him, but they did not know that the
- 39:34men and the impala were going to jump out with
- 39:36AR fifteen's and execute him.
- 39:38Speaker 2: They were trying to argue that a surveillance operation spontaneously
- 39:42escalated into a murder without their consent, But as.
- 39:45Speaker 1: We know from the eight hour deliberation, the jury fundamentally
- 39:49rejected that premise.
- 39:50Speaker 2: They looked at the digital timeline, the brass catchers, the
- 39:52hotel surveillance, and the music and concluded that every single
- 39:56person involved in that caravan share the exact same lethal.
- 39:59Speaker 1: Intent, which resulted in the unanimous guilty verdicts for first
- 40:02degree murder, which.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Brings us to the grim reality of the present day.
- 40:06It is mid May twenty twenty six. The trial has concluded,
- 40:10but the legal process is not over.
- 40:12Speaker 1: The atmosphere in that Tampa court room has shifted from
- 40:16determining guilt to deciding the ultimate punishment.
- 40:19Speaker 2: The penalty phase is currently underway. The state of Florida
- 40:21is actively seeking the death penalty for Isaiah Chance, Sean
- 40:25Gathright or Shod Murphy, and Devion Murphy.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Under Florida law, the prosecution must present aggravating factors to
- 40:32the jury to justify a sentence of lethal injection over
- 40:35life in prison, and.
- 40:37Speaker 2: The state has a heavy arsenal of aggravating factors in
- 40:40this case. They are emphasizing the extreme premeditation, the fact
- 40:45that this wasn't a crime of passion, but a hunted
- 40:47assassination across state lines.
- 40:49Speaker 1: They are highlighting the military style tactics, the masks and
- 40:52the brass teschers to show cold calculation.
- 40:55Speaker 2: They are arguing that the murder was gang motivated, which
- 40:58carries a specific statutory war, and they were appointing to
- 41:02the fact that it was a mass casualty event. The
- 41:04shooters didn't care who else was in the car, resulting
- 41:07in three additional victims being shot.
- 41:09Speaker 1: In a capital case penalty phase, the defense must counter
- 41:12those aggravators by presenting mitigating factors. Their objective now is
- 41:16entirely focused on humanizing the defendants.
- 41:18Speaker 2: They have to give the jury a psychological or emotional
- 41:22reason to spare these men's lives and sentence them to
- 41:25life without the possibility of parole.
- 41:28Speaker 1: The testimony we've seen reported from this phase is deeply emotional.
- 41:32Rashad Murphy's adoptive mother took the stand. She didn't make
- 41:35excuses for the crime, but she tried to provide the
- 41:38context of his humanity.
- 41:40Speaker 2: She testified about his younger years, how he was a
- 41:43disciplined boxing champion.
- 41:45Speaker 1: She talked about how he tried to act as a
- 41:47provider for his family while navigating a landscape of immense
- 41:50poverty and personal loss. She was trying to show the
- 41:53jury a young man who was shaped, distorted, and ultimately
- 41:56broken by his environment before he ever stepped into that
- 41:59parking lot.
- 42:00Speaker 2: We also saw reports that Sean Gathwrite took a very different,
- 42:03very risky approach. He actually took the stand himself during
- 42:06the penalty phase to address the jury directly and express
- 42:10a level of accountability and remorse for his actions.
- 42:12Speaker 1: The psychological burden placed on the jury right now is immense.
- 42:15They have to sit in that room and weigh the
- 42:17clinical horror of the autopsy photos against the complex tragic
- 42:21humanity of the young men sitting at the defense.
- 42:23Speaker 2: Table, and the reactions outside the courtroom reflect that exact
- 42:27same complexity. The sources detail the reaction of Fulio's mother.
- 42:32Speaker 1: She buried her son Charles in Edgewood Cemetery back in
- 42:36July twenty twenty four, and her story is heartbreaking because
- 42:39she wasn't blind his lifestyle.
- 42:41Speaker 2: Reporters noted that she had begged him for years to
- 42:44leave the streets.
- 42:45Speaker 1: She pleaded with him to walk away from the drill
- 42:48music persona, to stop taunting his rivals because she knew
- 42:52exactly how the feedback loop ends.
- 42:54Speaker 2: In her interviews, you hear the sheer terror of a
- 42:56mother watching her son actively court his own demid and
- 43:00her reaction to the guilty verdicts was described as a profound,
- 43:04complicated mix of emotions.
- 43:06Speaker 1: There is relief that the justice system held his killers accountable,
- 43:09that the digital forensics worked, but there is no triumph.
- 43:12Speaker 2: Four death sentences do not reverse the bullet that hit
- 43:15her son. The pain is permanent.
- 43:17Speaker 1: The broader public reaction is similarly fractured. If you look
- 43:20at social media or talk to people in the Jacksonville community,
- 43:23Some view this verdict as a massive victory.
- 43:26Speaker 2: They look at these four men facing death row and say, good,
- 43:29the system worked. This will send a definitive message to
- 43:32the streets. It will deter the violence.
- 43:35Speaker 1: But I have to stop and ask the uncomfortable question
- 43:38if executing four young men in a state penitentiary is
- 43:41society's ultimate answer, does it actually break the cycle? Or
- 43:46does it just create four new martyrs for the next
- 43:49generation of six Block and ATK kids to rap about.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Are we solving the problem or are we just providing
- 43:54the lyrical content for the next decade of monetized distracts.
- 43:58Speaker 1: If we zoom out and look at the level, this
- 44:01verdict is a glaring spartlight on our massive systemic failures.
- 44:05Speaker 2: Yes, the law enforcement agencies executed a flawless investigation. The
- 44:09digital forensics were brilliant. They caught the killers.
- 44:12Speaker 1: But the justice system is essentially operating as a high
- 44:14tech cleanup crew. They are playing a sophisticated game of
- 44:18whack a mole.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Catching the killers after the fact doesn't touch the generational
- 44:22poverty deeply rooted in neighborhoods like Moncrief.
- 44:25Speaker 1: It doesn't provide a single therapist to a thirteen year
- 44:27old boy who just watched his father get.
- 44:29Speaker 2: Murdered, and it does absolutely nothing to dismantle the multi
- 44:34billion dollar corporate music infrastructure that actively incentivizes and profits
- 44:39from young men performing their trauma for an audience.
- 44:42Speaker 1: The jury in Tampa closed the chapter on what happened
- 44:45in that specific parking lot, but the broader book of
- 44:48this violence is still being written and monetized every single day.
- 44:52Speaker 2: It is a massive, heavy reality to process.
- 44:55Speaker 1: We've traced a genuinely heartbreaking arc today. We went from
- 44:58a thirteen year old boy in Jackxsonville whose reality were
- 45:01shattered by a bullet to his creation of an untouchable
- 45:05digital persona just to survive.
- 45:07Speaker 2: We watched how a bitter, localized feud was amplified and
- 45:11funded by global streaming algorithms, turning a neighborhood dispute into
- 45:15a lucrative content farm.
- 45:17Speaker 1: We examined how that pressure cooker exploded into a highly
- 45:19tactical military style ambush in Tampa.
- 45:22Speaker 2: And finally, we witnessed a historic murder conviction where the
- 45:24killers thought they could beat the system by catching their
- 45:26brass casings, completely unaware that their own Instagram habits and
- 45:30cell phone pings were weaving their news.
- 45:33Speaker 1: It is a tragedy whose mechanics are entirely unique to
- 45:36the twenty twenties. It could not have happened this way
- 45:39in any other era.
- 45:40Speaker 2: It really couldn't.
- 45:41Speaker 1: And for you listening, I want to bring this back
- 45:43to your own life, because while you might feel entirely
- 45:46disconnected from the world of Jacksonville Drill music, you are
- 45:50connected to the exact same digital grid.
- 45:53Speaker 2: Think about the invisible tethers you rely on every day.
- 45:57Speaker 1: You use location sharing to find your friends at a
- 45:59crowded fust You post a picture of your dinner so
- 46:02your family can see what you're up to. You let
- 46:04your phone track your run. We view these tools as
- 46:08harmless conveniences. We view them as ways to connect.
- 46:12Speaker 2: But what the Julia Fulio case reveals is the terrifying
- 46:15duality of that technology.
- 46:17Speaker 1: Those exact same conveniences, those exact same Debta points that
- 46:20you give away for free, can be weaponized by anyone
- 46:23watching with lethal surgical precision.
- 46:26Speaker 2: It forces a total re evaluation of our relationship with visibility.
- 46:30We willingly surrender our privacy in exchange for the dopamine
- 46:33hitd of engagement.
- 46:34Speaker 1: But the Internet is entirely agnostic. It does not differentiate
- 46:38between a fan liking your photo and a predator tracking
- 46:41your coordinate.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Which leaves us with this final thought.
- 46:44Speaker 1: Something I want you to genuinely mull over the next
- 46:46time you pull out your phone to check in somewhere
- 46:48or post a story to your followers. In an era
- 46:51where your location, your casual thoughts, and your personal rivalries
- 46:55are broadcast in real time, permanently to the entire world.
- 47:00Is the concept of safety just an illusion we haven't
- 47:03quite unlearned yet.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into
- 47:06the sources.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Keep questioning the information around you, keep looking beneath the surface,
- 47:11and we'll see you on the next deep dive.