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#661: The Year of the Fire Horse | Catherine Austin Fitts · Macroaggressions

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refinancing it's not
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Brace yourself for this one because Catherine Austin Fitz has been talking about
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The direction that the United States is heading for a long time and with some pretty important people
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You might have caught her on Tucker every now and then
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We're a member of the independent media alliance and thank God we are we're a group of people who are not just talking about the problems
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But actively trying to fix them so
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Strap in for this one. This is good one
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Please enjoy my conversation with Catherine Austin Fitz. Well, it's my honor to have a
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Chance to talk to you Catherine about the real estate industry. I never get a chance to talk to anybody about real estate
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I have spent 30 years as a
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Broker in California, Nevada. I was there for the boom and the bust and saw all of that and we're in California
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We're in California. I I'm I'm from Southern California Palm Springs area
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But I did most of my real estate in Las Vegas and and started in around
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2000 I had my I was a broker in 98 in California, but really in Vegas in
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2003 was when I got there and rode that wave up and then saw the crash and
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And it was a real education for me
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You think you know real estate you don't you you think you understand money you don't I
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Had to read John Perkins book Confessions of an economic hitman for the light bulb to go off that what we were doing on a small
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Scale loaning money to people who had no no path towards paying it back or in houses
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The economic hitmen were doing on a much bigger scale large loaning money to come to countries from the IMF and the World Bank
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And then it hit me. This was a gigantic scam. I then come across your work and
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Your background and again, this is more confirmation that the real estate industry is is
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Diabolical I'm wondering if you saw recently here. I know you're you're out of the country currently, but
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Recently they just passed. I don't know if they passed it
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But they announced it that the a cap on private equity purchases of residential homes
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I think they put it at 350 homes that that was going to be though the number
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I don't know how they came up with that but the caveat that they put in there
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Was that you you these private equity firms could buy the homes?
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Up to 350 but then they were capped however they could build and I thought oh
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Okay, I see where this is going. We're gonna get a bunch of
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Mergers and acquisitions in the home building industry and immediately after I had that thought
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Taylor Morrison announces that they're selling to Berkshire Hathaway
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Where are we going with private equity the marriage between private equity in residential real estate
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It seems like a catastrophe
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But I don't know where this is headed
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So I don't I don't know where it's headed either because there are multiple scenarios and one of the things
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you know, we have a whole generation of
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Millennials and Gen Z who at some point are going to start wanting single-family homes and
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And that that wave is coming and the question is you know
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Who's going to provide the home building for that wave and how much of it is going to go through the
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Liquid markets, how much you're going to go through the private markets? How much you're going to be small business?
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We don't know the answer. I don't think a cap on 350 is meaningful because
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There are numerous ways you can just create more and more vehicles and do 350 times a thousand
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Do you know what I mean? Right? So so I don't
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The private equity challenge is a much bigger challenge
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We have a meltdown in in sort of financial standards across the board in the financial system
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And you know, you can't you can't fix it by putting a cap on you know
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350 down here you got a problem up here and until you change that problem up here
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You're gonna keep getting messes. So I don't think it's gonna make a big difference
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What about private equity in general? They're they're they're
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Are they regulated because it feels as though they're unregulated in terms of the what they're buying the the
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The backbone really of America these small medium-sized businesses, right?
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So what you're doing is you're doing a roll-ups and and you're rolling up and the reality is the way to change it is
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To cut them off from our capital in other words
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The problem is not private equity is rolling up the private is the problem is that our
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Tension funds IRAs our foreign case. They're financing us, you know, so if you want to stop it stop financing it
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Right if you I hate I keep seeing these meetings of people trying to stop data centers
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And if you look at their 401ks and IRAs, who did they think is financing those data centers, right?
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so so America's in a state of multiple personality disorder where our
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Alumni universities think they're gonna get more money in private equity than the liquid markets. They were wrong
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But not until they used up a whole bunch of the endowment that we think is, you know
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Part of what's backing our alumni network did it with our state pension funds did it with not as much with corporate pension funds
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but but we've seen a real breakdown of
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Deuxierre obligation and now the Department of Labor is is literally trying to regulate that it breaks down for 401k
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so
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You know, how do you how do you get a society from being corrupt to being not corrupt?
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Well, one of the reasons is you enforce the anti-trust laws and when businesses use illegal surveillance and covert operations to affect acquisitions
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You know, you would force against them
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So, you know now that's a problem because they they in the crypto industry in combination are huge donors in Washington
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Yeah, and Washington has made it clear the country's for sale and I hate to say this
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Many Americans as long as they're making money in their 401ks and IRAs are like we're okay with that as long as we're making money
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This is concerning of course
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There's no enforcement at the top is that
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Sort of the issuers everybody at the top sort of financially incentivized to keep
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I would say that there is no meaningful
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Enforcement at the top if you don't enforce anti-trust laws and
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Businesses are free to use criminal tactics in combination with the intelligence agencies to and covert operations to
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You know do acquisition strategies and torture people who you know who stand in their way
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You know, you've got a mafia country. You've got a grifter nation
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so I
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You know to me we have a
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Serious problem, but it's a crime problem. It's a crime wave and and and you know
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I don't know if you saw the Epstein testimony of of Pam Bondi when she was still attorney general
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But she said why are we talking about this the thousand fifty thousand and that's the trade-off
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Americans have said as long as I get the check
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You know, it's fine
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You can you can bring narcotics in and market narcotics to the kids in my neighborhood as long as Mike
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My stock portfolio is high and God loved Pam Bondi. She told the truth
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She said what do we care if pedophiles are roaming free as long as our stock portfolio is high?
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That's been the political trade-off since Goldwater, right?
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And that's the political trade-off that's gonna have to change and and Washington and Wall Street can't do that
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We have to do that
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But how do we change the incentive structures so that so that it's it's it
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Destruction isn't the end goal, you know, it's so here's the first thing the first thing you do is you bring transparency
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Okay, and I think that's what you're trying to do. You're trying to bring transparency. That's why you have a show, right?
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Yeah, so that there's an honest conversation and one thing I can say from the statistics
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It seems to me America is walking away
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From the corporate media, you know, they're tired of being lied to and they they don't trust the corporate media at all
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And that's a good thing
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but the second thing they have to do is we all have to take responsibility to
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You know get our minds out of the media and take a look at what's going on around us and our family in our community and say, okay
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How do we bring this back to something that's fundamentally healthy and and that means facing
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You know all this corruption is going on in your county. It's going on in my county
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You know, we have to deal with it at that county level and one of the good things about the flood cameras and the data centers
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Is they're forcing people to do it, you know, suddenly they're saying they're seeing this thing go in because the critical question
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Is not as what is the value of our money?
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The the critical question here is is it going to be our money or is it going to be somebody else's money?
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Are our are we going to move the entire financial system on a distributed ledger?
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God forbid we also move real estate on a distributed ledger and suddenly you've got an automatic third lock
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Switched up into our surveillance system and it's not our money and it's not our assets anymore and
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And so, you know, we've been letting this get worse and worse and worse and worse
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And now we're coming into the endgame and the reality is
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They're planning on implementing
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You know digital technology, which will give them control of your money
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So we saw the sense say up and say we we just seized a billion dollars of Iranian wallets like that
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Okay, well, what do you think when when your stocks and bonds are moved on to the distributed ledger?
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Which DTC is doing as we speak?
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You know that can happen to you too
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This makes me nervous because I see a variety of levels to this as you mentioned America
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The United States trying to get people on to this distributed ledger
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stablecoins, but then we've got
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the BIS talking about a universal
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rail system
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And and the what would what what does that look like moving forward?
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I mean, I am of the opinion that if you allow everything to be put on to the blockchain for full review
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Well, I mean it kind of goes both ways on the one hand
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Theoretically you'd be able to see what the government is doing. I don't know that they would like that on the other hand
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Once you sign up for that you can never get off, right?
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Or if you if you take that path, are you committed if you if you think that in a million years
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I don't believe the US government will ever
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Limit itself to a distributed ledger
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They will have open database systems for themselves, right?
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So but let's look at what happened the banks have announced they're they're going to
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Move bank deposits on to distributed ledgers. Is that all bank deposits or a percentage? We don't know
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I'm assuming they'll start with pilots the stablecoins
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We know we're on a distributed ledger and we're looking at an aggressive marketing of
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You know supposedly a growth of stablecoins after the genius act can after the rulemaking period is over
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But now DTC which is responsible for archiving the records for a hundred and fourteen trillion of stocks and bonds is
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Implementing a pilot starting in July with 50 brokerage firms and exchange firms to move
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114 trillion stocks and bonds on to distributed ledgers. So we're talking about
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Connecting potentially the surveillance system with an automated third lock on all stocks and bonds on stablecoins and on bank deposits
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Is this the great taking
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Well, this creates the infrastructure you need for a great taking
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So if you look at what people are calling the great taking it's not something to worry about
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This is what you worry about you worry about the an automated third lock that can do a great taking on scale
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So in the in the financial system right now, we have manual third locks
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So if you look at what happened to the Canadian truckers the government talks to each
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Individual financial institution and says we want you to do this this and this and they have to provide documents
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And they have to prove to the general counsel. It's legal and they have to you know
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And then everybody does it in a different way at a different time
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And people have a right to call up and complain and get information
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You know and so it's a very cumbersome process if you set it up on a distributed ledger where you can do an automated third lock
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You know, but simply add
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thousands of other little rules in the technocracy from climate change to
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You know, you were rude to your neighbor. God knows what you know
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Then you're talking about an automated system with AI agents
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That that can collect massive amounts of data and implement all sorts of complicated rules and the rule system for you
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Can be different than me, you know, you can handle almost infinite complexity
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And so you've got spatial control and financial control and it can be done by a very small group of people
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I mean what Carson's
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Auditing Carson said is head of the general manager general manager the BIS in 2020
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We can make the rules how you use our money and we can enforce them
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Which means we can enforce them centrally. So they're serious. They have made it clear
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this is their intention they want the power to do that and
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It's funny. I just flew back from the United States. I did a tour of 20 cities
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and
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And I in the process we did a lot by driving
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I have a colleague from Iceland who came to do the driving for 5,000 miles anyway, but between the
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Planes and and cars I did 25,900 miles in two months in 20 cities
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Okay, and I saw a lot but coming back. I had to fly back through
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from Tennessee to Dallas and Dallas to Amsterdam
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And I won't bore you with the details because it could take the entire
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discussion
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But the first plane was four hours delayed and then cancelled
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That caused me to miss my flight to Amsterdam. I got rebooked
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On multiple ways, you know, so all that had to be negotiated. It was automatic
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It was an automatic rebook without my consent or permission
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Sending my bags to their yithering on I got put on a British airline flight that that then
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Was held up on the tarmac for three hours and then cancelled and then no I take it back
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It was on the tarmac
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Then they said they fixed it went out to the runway the problem came back if they cancelled at that point
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We went back and turned out it was the wrong gate
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We had to wait outside the gate for 25 minutes going to the gate then they changed the gate
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We got off they told me my bags were down and I had to go downstairs
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So I sat from 1 to 3 a.m. Trying to get my bags at which point they announced no
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We've rebooked you without your consent permission to fly to Helsinki
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Can you imagine to go to Amsterdam through Helsinki and I I basically
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You know having worked for 11 years on Wall Street
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I pulled out my best Wall Street personality and got them to understand that this was your their problem
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Not mine. They were going to fix it
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I wasn't going to fix it because they wanted me to go over to Finair get my bags and rebook at myself
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I said no, no, no, no anyway, but I kept wondering why so this went on and on and there's more to the shaggy dog story
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I had maybe 20 different interactions with the automated
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You know the automated rebooking of me and my bags and it took you know
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It took extra days when I got here the bags were here and finally they showed up by truck
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Anyway, but but all of that was to say
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What the airline was doing was automating the next step
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In a way that saved them their employees had to do no work
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The software did everything and if I didn't like it
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It was my job to spend my time to fix it, right? So it was like an automated third lock
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You know in this circumstance because I have been with that airline for you know
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I have a lot of mileage for that airline
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My Wall Street personality worked but with an automated third lock in the financial system. There's no place to call
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There's no place to go. Do you know what I mean that your financial institution will not be involved in a manual third lock
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I can go to the financial institution and say why am I being debanked?
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What's the reason I can appeal that I can go to court? I can get a lawyer in this
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You know and I finally realized after this
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It was supposed to take 20 hours to get the Amsterdam it took 44 hours, but I finally realized this is all happening
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Because I need to really get inside of what the automated third lock is
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So so you know
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We see companies all around the world trying to
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Automate everything and then tell you we the employee tells you we don't have the power. It's the system side
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there's nothing I can do and
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That's be basically because McKinsey's coming and told them that's how you save money and save time
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Right, so the world's got you know being driven crazy and and what they want you to believe
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It's not some corporate ding-dong who made that decision. It's the AI so no human is to blame, right?
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Right, whereas it's really a corporate ding-dong
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So let's extrapolate does play this out a little bit
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our real estate
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documentation gets put on the
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On the ledger right on the blockchain somehow in the future. We go to sell our house
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Now we are we dealing with AI is there a hold on on my right on my transaction
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I mean it used to go through escrow and you can I took a couple days
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But you know you could talk to a human being
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Now what happens once the computer gets in the middle of this transaction and and and God forbid doesn't like your politics
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You know and in in prevents you from right from selling a house or or or you know it starts small
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But we know where it goes or it starts taxing you, right? Yeah
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In other words your fee, you know your your tax or your fee is not a thousand dollars
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It's one percent of your home equity
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Right, right, so I'll never forget one software developer a couple years ago saying oh, it's so great
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You can liquefy your home equity so you can like pay for your groceries with the percent of your home equity if this works
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I'm thinking
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Really, I don't think that's a good idea
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Anyway, so from what I can tell the you know the financial assets are going first before the real estate
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If you look at what's happening in the real estate
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What I see is all sorts of games going on with conservation easements and the natural asset companies
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Yeah, and and
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What was the name of that bizarre act that defined?
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agricultural processes and
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Asserted jurisdiction over processes. Do you know about that? No?
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I think Whitney's mentioned it before talk
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She's the one who sent me something on blue bonds and that got me going down a whole another path
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But similar natural asset corporations and things like that trying to itemize the world and
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Classified so
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Right, so natural asset companies right after that got pulled by the SEC because you had a group of
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State AGs and treasurers who did everything they could to stop it and and the department they pulled it
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I think it was USDA came out with a proposal that defined
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Natural processes
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So biosynthesis is a natural process II or be pollination is a natural processes
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And the goal was to assert jurisdiction and appoint contractors who would be in charge of
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overseeing and regulating all the
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natural processes on your land
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So you can imagine, you know if
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Imagine a defense contractor coming in who has the right and power to regulate the be pollination on your land, right?
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Okay, so so so there's a lot of that kind of stuff going on rulemaking that gives
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diminishes your property rights and
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We saw a natural
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Asset companies among other things is a way of rolling up conservation easements and
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Changing the fundamental nature of what you think you had agreed to
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Okay by rolling them up and securitizing and putting people in charge of
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Overseeing them different than the people you signed up for when you got it
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But another thing that's come up is stranded assets, and I don't know if you've seen that
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but
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We had a broker in Tennessee who was marketing a property a very nice property and suddenly on Zillow
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It showed up as having flood risk
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Our climate change risk of some kind and it made the property much less marketable
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And so you literally had these database operations that are just
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Announcing these things that's integrated into Zillow and the next thing you know your your property
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That you're trying to sell is worth significantly less because it's a it's been stranded by the databases
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I my
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Spidey senses are tingling when you say that that that is that's diabolical because of course they could what's to prevent them from
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Slapping some sort of climate change assessment on a big parcel of land
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Devaluing it to the point where you put the owners in bankruptcy and then buying it for pennies on the dollar
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Right well one of the things that happened was the broker was trying to get in contact with somebody
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Because they felt the assessment was incorrect
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But they could never get through to anybody no matter what they did and the last time I talked to them
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They're trying to hire a lawyer to sue Zillow so that they could find somebody to talk to again. It was this automation
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This is a
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Really concerning direction that we're going down right also the automation when they mentioned
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the insane ideas of
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Taxing unrealized gains on your homes and things like that you go. Well, that would never happen. How would you make the calculation?
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Well, if it's all online they could do it, right? Right if you have a third lock. It's easy to do
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once you get an automated third lock on real estate or
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You know on your bank account
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It's relatively easy to do
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So, you know, that's why I keep telling the people stop worrying about whether the value of your money is going up and down
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Start worrying about whether it's your money or not. Yeah, no kidding
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because all of these little games are designed in fact to
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Target you, you know ease the speed at which somebody else can get your property or ultimately take it
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All right, well
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Where do we yeah, how do we approach this because it feels very
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Disempowering to know that the machines are making decisions, you know that some human there has to push a button to tell
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No machine is making, you know, did you ever hear of Utah Phil?
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Utah Phillips
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You're too young you're too young you tell Phillips once said said the planet is not dying
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It's being killed and the people killing and have names and addresses
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Okay, so so all of this stuff is being done by a human, you know
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So when insurance companies only play 24% of legitimate claims is because some McKinsey like consultant came in and figured it out and figured out
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Here's how you do it and here's how the software can tell you these people will never sue so you can you know
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You can defraud them. Okay, and here's here's how you can run. This is illegal, you know defrauding
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Okay, that was done by a human and and humans are the ones who are doing this, you know
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And and they want to hide behind the AA so here's the thing
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There are tremendous amount of things you can do
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But you're gonna have to take action the first thing you you're gonna have to do is make sure we don't go to an
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All-digital system because all of these shenanigans happen when we go to an all-digital system
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And so, you know whether you're maintaining, you know or trying to make sure analog systems
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And you have analog systems in your life or back up or you get as much of the digital technology
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Out of the space that has you under surveillance the more you protect your privacy, you know
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It's the less data you give them
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But but the more you use cash the more you keep an analog financial system alive
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So we just did a big interview called turtling for cash part two
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We have turtling for cash part one if you come we have a financial transaction freedom website at Solari
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Filled with stuff on things you can do to protect financial
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Transaction freedom including a huge book we did with for state legislators all the things the state legislature
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Can do to protect financial freedom and their enormous amounts in the United States
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The states have a lot of power if they will exercise it
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Nax were killed by the state treasurers and AG's they killed it and the federal government, you know
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It got so bad the feds just looked at it and said, okay, we're pulling that
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And and so but but part of it is you got to get off the couch and take action now
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I I watch every four years my subscribers spend a hundred hours plus each paying attention to the presidential election and
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Completely ignoring their state elections not knowing their state reps if we get to know our state reps and we support the ones who are fighting for freedom
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It's enormous what they can do they protect cash
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They can put up guardrails to stop the automatic third lock on the money. They can protect free speech
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They can protect you from being de-banked they can do you know, and and there's a group of
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Freedom fighting legislators across the country who are doing remarkable and amazing things and
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they don't get a lot of support and
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They don't get a lot of support because everybody's being entertained in the federal theater
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When in fact if they if you identify the guys you're really fighting for you for freedom at the state local level
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You know and and they got a little bit of support. It would be incredible
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We just published something called Mr. Global in your street
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And it's basically a manual a toolkit for everything local businesses can do to organize and push back
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And what I tell you is if you look at a hundred percent of the pushback we could do it a state of local level right now
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We're doing 2%
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Well, I guess that's a bit of optimism because there's a path
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Towards changing it pretty disappointing that we're not doing what could be done, but you talk about
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You've talked about this in the past as sort of a you know and an idea
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You know
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Almost sort of like a throwaway line make sure you have a gold coin for the border guard right for the crossing
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But but as a concept it's amazing
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Forget that the actual physical border or the guard or the gold coin
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Do you have the proverbial gold coin for when things go bad?
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Are you thinking are you looking a couple steps ahead?
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Is that maybe where we're we're dropping the ball here as Americans that we're so focused on the immediate or as you
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Say like what's this presidential election going to do?
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But we we lose sight of all the things that we actually can do to change the world
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So so if you go to Solari, there's something there. Can you see this called coming clean? Okay?
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It's a PDF anybody can download it you can print it out
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You can make as many copies as you want and basically what it says is okay
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Here's how you reverse the process in your life in my life
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So I like in the system that's centralizing power to a tapeworm the way a tapeworm works in your body
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It injects in you a into you a chemical that makes you crave what's good for the tapeworm and bad for you
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So you feed the parasite and the parasite gets stronger and stronger and you get weaker and weaker
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And if you go through all the aspects of your life from media to home
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To family to community to balance sheet to income statement what you'll find is throughout it
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You know the tapeworm is draining you and you need to detox and if you sequence your detoxing in a way
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Which works for you as you detox the parasite you get more powerful in the parasite gets weaker
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Okay, and it gets back to you want to stop the data centers stop financing them
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Right stop financing. Do you really think you can go?
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I keep telling the story of what happened in Washington
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I was sitting in a standing in a boardroom overlooking Pennsylvania Avenue in a congressman was sitting next to me and
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Protesters are marching up and down the street and it looks at me
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He says let's face it as long as they have a city bank credit card in their back pocket
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What do I care if they walk up and down?
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Right, okay reality right so what's in your back pocket and why do you change what's in your back pocket?
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You know if you want fresh food, you're gonna have to finance it
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If you want doctors you can trust you're gonna have to finance it
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Otherwise, you're gonna the medical system is gonna continue to poison you and you're not gonna have healthy food, right?
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Go finance it and stop financing the things you say you don't want to see in this world
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It's
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It's simple and everybody says I'm only one person
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But what I've seen throughout history is one person can rock the world
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Right particularly if people support them so every week on the salarer report
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We have a hero the week and then we have a hero of the year and if you look at what these people accomplish. It's remarkable
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So there are great freedom fighters all over the country all over the world and and it might be a good idea
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If we just stop, you know got off the couch and started supporting them. It's amazing what they could do
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And if you look at the guys who start to that they stopped it with no resources
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Just the ability to take time to write a you know an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal and to get on
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You know to get on the internet and talk about it and to network with other treasures and governors. I was amazing
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Well, I mean I've noticed that some of our behaviors are just really sort of unconscious
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You don't think about it until someone pulls you aside and says hey
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Why are you doing what you're doing and in one example of how it's so easy to change this is
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What you've been pushing cash Fridays really cash every day as you see right, but but let's start cash Fridays as a concept
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Go down there. We remember
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how it used to be with cash and not having credit cards and and I have maybe the I
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Don't know if it's the pleasure or the curse of being born right in the middle of gen X
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And having half of my life analog and half of my life digital
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So I sort of remember how it used to be but and so for me the idea of cash Friday is brilliant
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But what about the younger?
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Demographic who haven't haven't grown up in a world of cash
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Here's a funny thing my experience for the younger demographic is there's a bifurcation in them
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Just like there's a bifurcation and all the things and you've got a whole bunch of the young people
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Who are totally into analog?
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I was I was I was out in Salt Lake and I went down right below the state Capitol walked into a coffee shop and it's everybody's
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Definitely Gen Z and they've got a turntable with vinyl records because it sounds better, you know
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Yeah, and and so I sat down I said wow that's really because they have beautiful turntables
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So I started asking them all about it and before I get anything
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I'm getting a speech on cash and analog and vinyl LPs and right so okay
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That's a good story to tell I feel much better hearing something like that. I because I I must confess
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I mean I I was a little I'm a little bit
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Blackpilled and on some of the younger generation that that isn't seen what what I see
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But then every now and then I'll find one group that that
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Maybe somebody's had a conversation about this say this because we
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Two years ago what I was hearing from our subscribers is what are you going to do for my children and grandchildren, you know
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I'm sick of sending them to Ivy League schools and
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Spending 250 and they come back brainwashed with purple hair and you know, it's right
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So so what are you going to do for my kids?
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And so we started a program called Solari builders and and we just did our first group
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So it's 12 online sessions and then two big events
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We're going to have a the next big event outside of Milan in August and we had one in February in Florida
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And I have to tell you this is the most remarkable group of 18 to 28th
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I've ever met my life and we all we did was put out on our you know subscriber base and our
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Audience our newsletter, you know, here's what we're going to do. It's a prototype and we want to see if our
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Curriculum and content can really help young people
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Avoid a lot of the risks. So I've spent a lifetime watching people be tricked
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By giving them a dishonest map of the world or you know, suckering them into bad investments
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And so the question is could we take everything we've learned about sort of
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Navigating this environment and how to avoid the all the different risks that trick people and make a difference in young people's life
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So and and our conclusion was yes
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We're redoing it because we've got a lot of really good feedback and tightening it up and we want to build the network
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So the the first group is not going to end
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We're going to keep going in a sort of monthly alumni program and then we're taking our applications in July and
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You know something the best investment I could possibly make as a human being is to invest in this effort
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because these folks can build a whole new civilization they are
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wonderful and
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Capable and talented and
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One guy called a bridge capital if if the people with experience
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You know we're kind of running things now like your generation or the older generation has got some capital and a lot of risk knowledge
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If we can get behind them and push them out to lead I
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just think amazing things are possible and and that's important to me because I believe the people who want to control everything are
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going to fail and I think you know
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Their failure is going to make a terrible mess is going to be hard. It's it's horrible now and and but the question is not
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You know what's wrong with what they're going to do and how do we stop them all that's important?
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But the question is how do we take this technology and really build a great civilization?
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How do we do that?
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That's what we have to do and it's going to be young people who we support and educate who will do that
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You know because they've got that long term
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You got to have a really long term vision
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So anyway, so I right now. I'm more optimistic that I've been since 1998
41:35
Well, that's great to hear
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How do you bridge the gap between the young people who have great ideas and enthusiasm and the more established?
41:45
Generation that has the capital. How do you get those two talking to each other?
41:50
So I you know that's one business plan at a time
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I don't think that's hard to do because I think there are a lot of people with capital looking to you know to back
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That kind of venture effort. So I'm not I'm not worried about that
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I think you know to for me the issue is how can you get this generation prepared and organized to to make
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You know to put forward plans that are worth investing, you know
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I'm from Wall Street and so the the trick to making capital flow is you've got to have a plan that's worthy of
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The capital right so so the point is getting organized and getting worthy of that capital and and so
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You know that's step one, but I think the capital is there
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I'm not worried about that if anything there's too much capital sloshing around with too few places to go because we basically had
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You know, we have an oligarchy who's you know between monetary
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And fiscal largesse is messing up the returns on just about everything
42:52
Well, it's it's funny. I'm the emcee of Anarcapulco the largest anarchist conference in the world every year and
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Which is a funny thing. Where is it? Where do you have it?
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It was in Acapulco Anarchy Acapulco Anarcapulco
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They put it for the first 11 years it outgrew that this last year
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It was in Puerto Vallarta, and it's frankly. It's a health and wellness conference with a lot of
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Crypto people that were building things and I went out on the the first day
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Pretty much one of the first times out on the stage. I
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Sort of made an announcement to the audience if there are people here
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Who have amazing ideas and are looking for money come find me
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And if there are other people here who have money and are looking for amazing ideas
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You come find me as well. I'll be the conduit. I'll be the matchmaker. I'll put you guys together because I know from these events
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Everyone's looking for money for a project, right?
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But I also know that there are people who have done well and and and maybe they've done well in crypto or they've done
43:52
Well in other aspects and and they're there and it's not about money for them
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It's about doing something important and relevant. It's about building. It's about building. Yes about building
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That's why we call it this layer builders
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We're looking to build we're looking to build forward and the way you build a civilization is one transaction of business at a time
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That's that's how you build
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Who's reading salari who is your demographic are they the people who've been through it and in the light bulbs already gone off?
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Oh, is it their kids?
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No, it's an enormous
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It's hard it's hard to describe how enormous our
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Our band is so to speak. It's this is not a niche
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I'll never forget one day. I was sitting and talking to two people in national at the same time
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I was I was helping on customer service
44:47
one of them was reading us from the library in
44:50
National because he was homeless and the other had sold his business the day before for hundred and fifty million a national
44:56
Okay, and and they were both
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They were both they both had the same values. They both wanted to be free. They were both. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, so so what brought that they weren't like minded they were like valued
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Okay, so so the people who like salari and and they're all over the map
45:16
They go from very young to very old my favorite one of my favorite feedbacks was somebody who was in colleges
45:22
She said it's so great when the professor starts lying to me
45:26
I just put in my earbuds and I start listening to the salari report in a lap
45:33
So so so it's it's very young to very to very old we I mean it's the whole gamut
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It's about
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80% North America, so about 70% us 10% Canada and the rest spangled sprinkled all of the world mostly Europe
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Australia New Zealand and whatever and
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The thing that defines this group of people is they're exceptionally open-minded
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And they are exceptionally interested in the truth
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And they are used to collaborating and figuring out the truth
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So whenever there's an event that happens throughout the world, we have subscribers writing in said, okay
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This is what really happens. Yeah, and it's pretty wonderful and it grew up because I
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When I was litigating with the federal government
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I used to give out my email and I said if you have a question just email me
46:25
There's no point in going through the media just communicate directly and so the questions grew and grew and grew and grew and they grew into three
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Businesses right and those are my those are my businesses, right?
46:36
So so it was just answering questions a lot of questions led me into investment advisory
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Now I do an investment screen, but the other was salari the salari report and we have a show
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It was still called ask Catherine and every week, you know, we answer the questions
46:50
So but here's here's what you need to know about the subscribers
46:54
If I get a group of subscribers into a room say I did this in New York. We were at the jockey club
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No, I'm sorry 20 it was 21 Club in New York. We got 45 people in a room and within an hour
47:07
They look like they've known each other for 30 years. It's the strangest thing and and it's because
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They're they're very competent. They're very capable. They're people who believe they can
47:18
They can build their world they they're very responsible. So a lot are entrepreneurs or have their own
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practice like lawyers and chiropractors, but they're they have independent finances of various kinds and
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And and what has happened is they have been sufficiently
47:38
alienated or burnt by the establishment that
47:42
They understand they can't believe everything they hear
47:46
But they also understand you can't get negative about it because that's how you lose your power
47:51
Your power comes from your love, right and and your ability to build
47:55
So they're very positive people and they don't want to hear about what's wrong
48:00
They want an honest map, but they want to hear about okay
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What can I do about it and how do I you know because they believe no matter what's going on?
48:09
There's always a way to get something done
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So they want to play offense and defense they want to know what the official story is
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But they want to know what the truth is, but they don't let it they don't let it get in their way
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They're very forward-acting people. It's an amazing group of people, you know
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The only problem I have as a business is every four years
48:32
I tell them that the uniparty can't help them and they get mad at me and so I lose a third
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You know, so we
48:39
Every time the Salary team they just hold their nose ago. Oh god, here we go. Yeah, she's not gonna stop doing this and we're gonna
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write
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Well, so what was the what was the response of your core?
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Salari readers when you and Professor Mark Skidmore
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Started to do the work that you were doing on finding missing money. Did they I had started talking about the missing money in 99
49:11
When Dr. Skidmore showed up I had done it every year until
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2016 and and the 2015 steel was the biggest yet and that's when he heard me
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but I had never done a complete survey of all the
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Financials of the two agencies where the money was disappearing and he brought his students in and it did a much more thorough
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You know, they went through every financial statement for those two agencies from 98 to 2015 and in 2015 they stopped publishing
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You know, that was the problem. They took it dark
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But anyway, so that's that's 56 that did that the dark darkening of it or the accounting regulation changes
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56 was the thing that
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Institutionalized they had delayed delayed delayed and then
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Fasby 56
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Institutionalized anyway, so when they when he showed up I had gotten it up to 12 trillion
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And then he and his team got it up to 21 trillion and he kept coming back to me. It's like, oh my god
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It's more. Oh my god. It's more. Oh my god, and it was a very funny process for me because
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First of all, he he's just a person of extraordinary integrity. It's just amazing amazing guy and
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He just couldn't believe, you know at this point. I'm pretty experienced at dealing with these kinds of games
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So when when he finished this report and we were ready to publish it. I said I'm not
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I'm not going to publish this until I have copies of all the financial statements on
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servers in Europe I
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Had two servers in different places in Europe and one server in the United States and I said
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I wanted all on these servers and I want it set up so we can switch to that
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quickly and you know was going to take us another week because people were busy and he was like
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You know, he didn't say it this way
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But what he said was I think you're being a little paranoid and after we launched it wasn't that long
51:08
He did one or two shows and then bam both DoD and HUD takes down all the financials
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Like that and he was in a complete state of shock. He was like wait a minute governments don't do this and I said mark
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Welcome to my world. Yeah, and we immediately switched to the I think we switched to the Iceland server
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And then it took him a couple days
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But finally I'm sure with somebody the White House had put that stuff back
51:34
We look ridiculous because we're making a big deal on the show so they took it down at both agencies at the same time
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So they put it all back up on a different URL and said oh, we were just reorganizing the website
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There was no intention to
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anyway, so he went through this process of
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Learning how this game works and it you know
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He got shocked again and again, and so it was kind of a learning journey for him
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But it was a learning journey for the subscribers to see somebody of his quality come in and sort of
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you know go through the process with me again and
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And that's when you started to realize okay
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This is you know, this is a very deep process and it was funny because
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I always tell the story. I was in Bolivar in
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2019 Bolivar, Tennessee, which is the county seed and I was talking with mark and mark was like why won't you give up on this?
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Why won't you give up? Why do you keep trying because now with faz be 56 were toast and you know, and I said
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because
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He didn't understand the nature of the long-term game here and and I said mark don't you understand if they
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If we don't deal with this financially, they're gonna have to increase
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They're gonna have to keep lowering life expectancy
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But they're gonna have to accelerate the lowering of life expectancy and he said what are you talking about?
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He couldn't compute what I was saying
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I said don't you understand that if you're gonna balance the books if you can't balance it financially you're gonna have to
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Change one of the assumptions and the assumption you change is you lower life expectancy because that balances the retirement savings
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And so when the pandemic came, you know, I I expected it after the election
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But when it came, I know exactly what it was. I was here we go
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Were we tapering the social security Ponzi scheme?
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Yeah
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Yeah, and and it helped. I mean it really bolstered social security
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Yeah, I mean if you look at the numbers
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So so mark just didn't
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He he's too nice of a guy to to understand how the government thinks
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How a government looks at a problem like this
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I don't think it's how the government looks at it because if you go into each bureaucracy, they're all
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You know, they're all just looking at their little stovepipe. I mean
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The advantage I have is I used to be in the room
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I don't mean I was important, but I was enough in the room to hear and so I
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Understand that if you are the leadership and you've tried to balance the books and you can't build a financial
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You can't build a constituency and a democratic process for financial responsibility
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And everything you try to do to get something on a financially responsible basis won't work
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Then you have no other choice
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You know, if you can't balance the books financially, then you've got to you know move retirement
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Retirement age way way out, right so you can change it from 65 to 75, you know after everybody dies
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Or you can you can lower life expectancy that those are your choices
54:45
You've got to either increase funding, right?
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Delay retirement age or lower life expectancy. That's the formula. It's math
54:59
Once he
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Understood this you made him aware of this did did the
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COVID operation make a little bit more sense
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Yeah, absolutely, and we've talked, you know, he's done a lot of analysis of the COVID operation
55:16
That's really interesting some very impressive things that he did. He did a survey
55:20
He's published some other papers and and I think you know that work really helped integrate all of this and
55:28
Look, I just look we just published were just about to publish a really remarkable interview on inflation
55:35
And I was looking at a long-term chart of the components of the CPI over the very long term and it's shocking
55:41
I don't know if you've ever seen this the medical inflation is so far above all the other inflation. It's just
55:49
You know, I took one look at that line and it goes on forever and you say that's a plan
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That's a plan to
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dramatically increase everybody's medical expenses by you know, and and it's true our
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Our our per capita medical costs are more than double Switzerland, right?
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I mean and and HHS is more than the military, right?
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so so the whole thing is a
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It's a machine and it's ridiculous, you know, because if you if you look at what it takes to provide
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You know good health and and you say let's do the things that are most economic you would never do it
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The way we're doing it now
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This is the most extractive economics there are it's a it's a machine and it's extracting value and it's poisoning people
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It's not but it's doing a good job of lowering like it some life expectancy. Yeah
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But is it unsustainable? Is there a collapse coming at the end? Is there is there a you can't extend life expectancy out to?
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You know, you can't shrink it or you can't you can't play with the numbers at some point
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You have to deal with the fact that we're bankrupt. Does that ever come or is there another game? We're not we are we are not bankrupt
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We're not we're not I mean I hate to agree with Howard latnick
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But if you look at our balance sheet if you look at the federal balance sheet first of all the debt is a scam, right?
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The Treasury could just issue currency. We don't need that debt
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Okay, that's a scam and if you look at how much has disappeared, you know, 29 went out the bailouts 21 tree
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And went missing five trillion on the going direct reset. That's 55 trillion dollars. The debt's 39 trillion
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That's not that's not bankruptcy. That's a bank robbery, right?
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And that that 55 trillion went someplace and in theory it could be gotten back in theory
57:39
So so that's not bankruptcy if you look at the balance sheet of the US government the land and mineral and other resources
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We own it's astonishing
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But they want to plunder it now the reason you have the debt not just the United States
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But all over the world is that's a control mechanism. Yeah
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Right, you put people in a debt trap and then you control and that's why you know
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If you're moving in the United States, you want to go to the jurisdictions that have the least debt because they're harder to control
58:07
Right. Who was the worst during the pandemic? It tended to be the guys with the big debt
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Yeah
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Well, let's wrap up with this you mentioned you were optimistic
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In the face of of some, you know, real hurdles that that we're
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We're looking at coming down
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the tail end of this year
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Let's let's end on the high note. I mean, where where can where can people say
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We're on the right track. I mean, yeah, we have some problems
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but
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They're fixable and we're the type of people who can fix them. Is there is there
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Aspects of this where we can we can feel like we're on the right track at least
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So here's the thing. I don't worry about the big picture
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I mean
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understand it
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But where's the group of people?
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You know one of my favorite authors is guy named Andrew Vax. He says your family of the people won't turn you in
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Who's your family? Where is your family? So another favorite quote I have is from a Swiss doctor
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He says the currency of the future will be relationships of trust
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Where are the people you can get together with and build forward?
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Where can you create the fresh farmers or or support the fresh farmers you need to eat?
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Where are the health clinics you can finance and get the kind of health that's economic and makes sense
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You know, maybe it's a homeopath. Maybe it's a natural, you know, whatever it is
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Where are the people in your community you can get together with and do community gardens?
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You know, there are hundreds of different things. Where are the entrepreneurs whose ventures you want to finance?
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You know, and if you can do enough of them, maybe one can really work, right?
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So so what do you want to build and who can you trust to build with?
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You know, who's not going to turn you in
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Right. And so that's the question and I wouldn't worry about everything else going on
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I would find the people who want to get something done
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And who you can build with and just start building and
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And it's those people that will lead through so
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This is the year of the horse in the chinese the year. So do you know anything about the year of the horse?
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No, okay. So nothing about chinese
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Okay, so so this year is a fire horse, right?
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Okay, and a fire horse
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Is uh everything is so, you know, it's like the whole deck reshuffling
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That there's only one way to deal with it and that's to charge on through
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Right. Okay. So the change is going to accelerate and it's going to be absolutely
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You know, it's going to it's going to cause us to feel some days very incoherent
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And that's where you have to build through it
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You know, it's like the the the
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You know, the ground is dropping behind you
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The the best way is forward
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So and here's the thing if you look around you the people fighting for freedom
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If you just find the ones who are doing it, maybe they're doing it in health
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Maybe they're doing it in food. Maybe they're doing financial freedom like we are just find them and just start building
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You know, and if you have a business keep building your business
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If you have a family keep building your family if you have a house keep building your house
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right
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There they're if you pick up coming clean, there are thousands of things you can do
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You've got to sequence them in the way that give you energy
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And but build forward because that is the only direction
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That's going to work and and you know, there's no way
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You can put your money under a rock and think you're going to be safe. You're not
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You've got to be deeply invested the worst thing
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One of the things I discovered when I was an investment advisor
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If somebody sold their company made a whole bunch of money and they had it all in the financial system
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They were scared to death
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Because they weren't useful anymore. Nobody needed them, you know, they're just sitting with a ton of money
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You know that the you know the worst people in the world
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They were having to depend on the people they couldn't depend on so
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You know get whatever you do whether you're wealthy or poor
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Get engaged and make sure other people need you
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And I have one great subscriber as a cardiologist. I've been telling him for decades, you know
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The demand for your services is going to go up because mr. Global is just going to be out there breaking hearts
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You know, everybody's going to have a broken heart
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So your job is to figure out how to price the curve because the demand for your service is just going to go up
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And it's true every year the demand for services goes up
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So anyway, so so there's always there's always a way to be useful
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And that's the trick is to be as useful as possible
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If you're a real estate you have plenty of opportunity to be useful because the
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Shenanigans are going to get worse. They're off the charts. Yeah, they are
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