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Making it up as we go · United We Scan

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Now, here are the host of The United, We scan podcast, And
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welcome back, everybody episode 27 bill has returned from
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vacation equal B. Joe knows what he's not quite so
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busy how was your week games Oh man, it was a lot of fun,
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finding emails and secret documents and getting
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information from other sources. With a lot of fun.
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This week mail volume was moderate this week a little bit
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heavier than it was last week. So I was appreciative of that
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for my Rex count, then hearing management, complaining about
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Rex numbers and carriers and me having to stand there and
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explain to my supervisor. Why the numbers are way they are
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now Now instead of the way they were before the Rex count, but
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we'll get into that later. But other than that, it's been a
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pretty good quiet week for me overall.
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How was your week? Are we clear very good?
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Young lady. That's been out for a couple
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months now supposed to be back. Yes today and then when she
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wasn't there at least you were told you yesterday and then we
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find out that her doctor that needs to clear.
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Her is so at least one more week.
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If that longer till she comes back, but they've actually had
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an RCA Odin that route. So I haven't been asked bullied
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by my coworker, my cohorts to take small sections, or run
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Parcels for one's health, I can in a couple weeks.
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So that's beautiful thing. I had
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one day Training. And then I worked my Ox route.
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Then I ran a double yesterday. So that was pretty much my wake.
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It was fairly easy. Mike's, not quite join in with
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us yet so we'll catch up with him when he gets here.
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So I've been privy to some information from upper
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management that was sent down to lower Management District
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representatives and all the way down to local post Masters.
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And this email that the emails that I saw were talking about
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the wrecks evaluations and the steps that they're taking to
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ensure that carriers are being quote, unquote, accurate with
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their scans of, which they've never trained us on.
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So the emails talks about how they've established this
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Baseline by analyzing the eight weeks prior to the many males.
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A survey. So the entire time we were being
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told all you only need to do the six cans.
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We're only worried about the six games, don't worry about the
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rest of them. Well now because you aren't
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worried about the rest of them and you didn't do them prior to
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the menu mail survey before you found out that your route was
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being extremely gooded due to the many mail survey and and the
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Rex 52 weeks. Now, people are inputting
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information into the scanner. There are a lot of carriers that
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are inputting. The right information, thanks to
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listening to our episode on activity scans.
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You can find that in our podcast histories, so be sure to go back
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and listen to those. Make sure you're doing your
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Skin's, the proper way, and they said that A variation of a
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hundred and fifty percent more than the Baseline.
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So if you have zero in the scan column and all of a sudden, you
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have three in the scan, column your flagged So if you had no
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box holders but you get four of them every week, you're flagged
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because now you're putting in for box holders for the week and
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so their flagging you for that. Your management is get going to
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be getting emails from their management saying hey this route
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now has four box holders where they never had any before the
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mini mail survey. So now you're getting talk to
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because of that. You think you're in the wrong
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when you're actually not. So what are your guys thoughts
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on that? I think if that's happening
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people need be contacting their District Representatives.
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We'll start with your local designated union, rep and work
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your way up the chain. That would be the best way to do
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it first. And if you're a district rep
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listening to this, you should be letting your local stewards know
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about this going around so that way they can be prepared for it.
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Send if you're a national representative listening to
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this, you ought to let your DVRs know about it so they can let
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the abr's in the area towards at.
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Tell the local stewards exactly. Because this is going to this is
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going to be a never-ending process and we need to we need
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to be ahead of them on this and be doing the right thing.
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You know, there's gonna be a few carriers that are going to try
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to milk the system and I'm not saying they are doing it or But
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everything you do, you should be able to say yeah, I had that
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that day. Do you have proof?
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Do you have proof that I didn't? So are you telling me that for
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the two years prior to his men email survey?
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Where I kept harping to people to do the 6 plus everything
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else. Certified to the doors and every
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package pickups and of course, the prior year, which they took
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the information from from in 2022, 2023 didn't really matter
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because they set the baselines on eight weeks prior.
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Is that what you're trying to tell me?
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That's what I'm telling. You is they're basing
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everything, eight weeks prior four inputs because they figured
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within the eight weeks prior, most carriers, got the
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information because they are whether you know, even though I
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asked the regional office manager, as to why the
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postmasters and District reps weren't trained on Rex and his
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answer was, well, they don't, they choose not to attend or
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they ignore the zoom trainings and he wasn't willing to make it
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mandatory. Apparently, everybody was
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supposed to know all the scans bye-bye eight weeks prior to the
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mini mail survey. So if you have an office that
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has one or two WS s entries on a day, but to two routes pop up
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because they have 11 to 14 that would red flag it, right?
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Yes. If they had a Gerald, they had
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zero for the eight weeks prior and then they started in putting
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them even those routes that only have to add a would get
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red-flagged Yeah, because to would put you over 150 percent.
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Exactly. So everybody in that office
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would be red flag. Yeah.
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So, I mean you're getting I do. If you're getting talk to about
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this, you definitely need to talk to your designated union.
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Rep for sure. So it's one thing they're
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looking at the amount. That's going above and beyond or
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what they think is going above and beyond.
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But why aren't they also looking at the ones that have all zeros?
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Because that does not support office because that benefits the
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post office if they have all zeros across the board and the
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only thing they do is clock in start load and load within 5
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seconds. Then depart to Route return from
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Route and five seconds later, they clock out.
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The post office is perfectly happy.
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Oh yes. The one going around, is if a
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package fits in the mailbox, it's not an unscannable parcel.
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Unscannable Those are shoebox or bigger size with no barcode or
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ill ill Jetta, bowl-eligible legible.
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Sorry. Can't talk for a moment.
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It's got to be a shoebox eyes. Yeah, that doesn't fit in the
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mailbox. Well, I thought it was designed
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to be something that wouldn't be.
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You wouldn't be able to case. So did they change that exceeds
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any one of the following Dimensions?
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Now notice it says rigid. So that includes do not Bend
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articles. Any one of these Dimensions
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anyone, so five inches in height, 18 inches in length and
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1916 inches in width. So anything that is taller than
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five inches letter envelope height, anything, that is longer
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than 18 inches in length, which is longer than most Flats.
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And one in nine sixteenth in width, which is basically one
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and three-quarter inches in width but they had to put 9/16
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because apparently they like larger numbers.
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Anything beyond that would exceed the measurements.
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So the thing you want to look for is rigid article and any one
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of those dimensions and it is a parcel.
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The other argument is, if it's in your parcel hamper it is a
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parcel that's been that way since the previous counts, if
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it's in your parcel, it on your parsley a it counts as a parcel,
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there are some exceptions to that though.
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Yeah, unfortunately. But that would be the argument
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that I would have about it is because I was always told if
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it's in your hamper it's a parcel.
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We had that one debunked in our district and still haven't
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gotten it in writing though. Basically Management's making it
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up as we go and that shoebox thing that's a sitting area
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term. Best city carrier.
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Turner is a city carrier term as well and yes /.
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That's what it is. Is a spur and that's the the
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dimensions for a spur shoebox-sized and we don't deal
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in stroke. So that 18 inch ruled would that
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mean that I still need my little blue Roar?
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The interesting thing is that they say we don't need the
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little blue ruler, but you know what, I think the little blue
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ruler is going to be more important now than it was with
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the original count. For that instance.
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I want mine. I'll tell you what when I got
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box holders. Are you pull out my blue ruler
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especially if it looks oversized?
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Yeah, and it's and then off and I've caught a couple that couple
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of the larger postcards, you know, that, I get it EDM that
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measure taller than to make it a flat.
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Yep, can't remember its rigid article so you can't take those
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bendable cards like the furniture advertisements that we
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get are oversized. But they're still a parcel
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because they are not rigid. You mean?
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What? A flat because they're not
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rigid. Yeah, they're not a parcel
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because there are not rigid, so they would be a flat.
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So, but yeah, the big thing is, is anything management wants to
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talk to you about that, make sure you talk with your
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designated union, representative about it.
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Because they're going to be cracking down on this even worse
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than clocking in early. We're still in, we're still in a
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fight over that one, but they're going to be on this, like, like
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crap on stink because they, they want to cut people's people's
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pay upper management. Doesn't look at it.
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As carriers doing actual work, they look at it as how low can
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we get our payroll in upper management?
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That's an unfortunate fact. And I think they're driving this
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really hard because of table, one, anybody in that table area
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are probably eligible retirement, so if we piss them
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off or aggravate them, to the point that they retire, we
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reduce our costs dramatically. And when they do that and
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nobody's going to hire in either and they're going to be even
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more screwed and then we're going to eventually have to turn
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around and have regular carriers working unfortunately, right
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City Terriers. Oh well you're going to take
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this route and you're going to take a piece off of this route
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and do that one too and you're going to get your 12 hours in
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today. Hmm.
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That's the last one you want to go to is, hourly.
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I mean I've seen a lot of people to know where I could just pass
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hourly. Oh yeah.
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They still are. And honestly people you don't
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want to be go hourly. It's just I have 50 carrier
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friends who wish they were on a system like ours.
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Hmm. You know, it's always grass is
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greener on the other side. There's benefits and drawbacks
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to both. Yes, City carriers, making them
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a 200,000 but you know, they have no life.
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Yeah, they're doing a bunch of pivots.
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They're doing round steak never done, before they're doing male
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houses, they've never done before.
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They don't know if there's dogs there or people, they don't
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know, you know, things like that.
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So, At least on the rural side unless you're a sub that is
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being thrown on every single route in the office that you
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don't know your regular carriers.
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You're not going to have to deal with that unless you volunteer
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to It's only three in the end of the mou it through the end of
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the mou unless they choose to extend it again.
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And honestly, I really hope they don't.
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Yeah, because in our next contract talks, they'll probably
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want to put that in as a standard in the contract,
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because we've signed so many mo use for it.
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But we shall see in what we can or we can only speculate and and
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we cannot say whether it's fact or fiction.
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Is it me? Am I paranoid, or is it just a
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coincidence? The mou ends after National
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Convention. It does, doesn't it?
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Number first. Well something we like to call
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that a coinkidink isn't that. Also just before the next mini
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mail survey, yes, Something like that.
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I'm gonna assume that it'll be in that ballpark since it more
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unlikely is always the last 12 working days of September.
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So now that way things like that. that's when it'll be
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however, Cuz they wanted to go into a, they potentially wanted
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to go into affect the first day of the new guarantee period.
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The new guarantee here, that's what I was just gonna say, Yeah,
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I was just saying about you to think are your friends.
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They're clearing 200,000 a year with the over time they're
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making daily. That's great, would be nice to
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have that now, but I'll keep my evaluation with my base salary,
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over 40 hours. And take that in my take that as
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part of my retirement. Personally, I'd rather bet I'd
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rather have it then when I need it.
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And now yep. Well, like you were mentioning
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earlier about the parameters is that, you know, established the
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eight week prior to the mini mail survey, during the, many
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mail survey we had a carrier flag for excessive DPS errors.
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And the supervisor wanted to change the number according to a
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rule, carrier specialist on payroll for the Post Office and
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I said, no, you can't do that. Because the fact that these
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numbers are already entered, you're making adjustment based
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on a level of acceptable errors that have been established by
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the post office. You can have days where you have
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over T, the normal amount or unders.
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Mo map. It's just like your evaluation
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sometimes you're over sometimes. Yeah, under, but it's a, it's
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not a per day thing. So, you know, they had a
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basically a shit about it. Nice to know if you're changing
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them for falsifying numbers and they came up with a number and I
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said, so now we know the established parameter that
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they'll accept and they said, yeah, nice nice is okay.
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Well, you want everybody to put that number in every day and
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they said no. And I said, well then, Let's
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leave his numbers alone because basically they were they were
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trying to rig it. You can't have an average where
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the top number is the number you want to be the average.
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Right. But as we do, evaluation reports
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of week, not over 2 or 3 days, your numbers for your DPM errors
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should also be an average over a week.
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Yeah, you could have 100 one day 30, the next 200, the next, and
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20 of the next, and it averages out to about 110 pieces.
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There you go. It's not rocket science, folks.
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They try to make it that way. It's law to have a seat again.
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Have you seen the calculations for the 4241?
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A I'm still trying to figure out what when I delivered a postage
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due Farhan c.o.d. with the money more order application.
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I haven't seen them in nine, ten years.
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But I got credit for him. Well, that's not my fault.
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I'm trying to figure out why the The comprehensive results of the
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Rex system documentation that the union got from the post
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office is more redacted than the information on an SR-71
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Blackbird. Let's not forget too that for
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management salts are coming down on people using trips to the
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door to, I'm sorry. But if it takes me three trips
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from the truck to the door to deliver three cases of paper
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towel. I'm putting three trips to the
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Doran and in some poor or dog food or kitty litter.
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Or one of the customers that I've delivered to I've delivered
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lead shot for there are manual relocate.
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Mm, there are manual. Freedom fillers I delivered a
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couple weeks ago to a door, I can't carry more than one
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mattress and at a Time, come on. Now, of course that was three
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trip. Why not?
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Or, or what? That's two trips, whether
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management likes it or not. I'm not going to carry Amazon
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boxes either below or above a cremated remains.
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I deserve respect, they deserve respect.
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I'm sorry. Exactly.
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Proper handle why they are on that one, that's why they ride
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up front with me. The whole way, the entire route,
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if I, if they're at the end of the route, the ride, the entire
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route up front with me on my shelf, looking out the front
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window. I'm sorry they deserve that
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respect. Hm. hey anyway, the ask them how
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their day is not going to tell anybody, so you know, And I've
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actually had better conversations with them than I
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have other people in the postal service right here.
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Well, this is true but I've had great conversation.
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Other people in the Postal Service to so I can't complain
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too much. I'm respectfully being reserved
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on this matter because I can go so many different ways on that
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one and we do appreciate that thoroughly.
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You know, this point was open up that management could be
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considering the weight of the packages total not the two or
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more different box dimensions. I'm sorry if a box I have short
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arms. And there's only so much I can
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carry it once. Yep.
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And I mean, just yesterday, I had a package.
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I mean it wasn't a very huge box, but it was super heavy.
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And when you have to lift it off the floor into the cart, from
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the car into the truck. Even if I had used a dolly, I
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would still have to lift it off the ground into the truck.
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It is enough that I had enough strength to wear luck.
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Ali, it's loosen up feels better, but I can hardly breathe
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or move my arms afterwards. Just right up through my ribs
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area. It's not the first time that
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happened, you know. It's you got to use care and
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like I said, yeah. Well, you also might want to
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consider a bigger bra. Yeah, they want you to carry all
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17 packages to the door. In one trip.
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No matter. Whether it's stacked 17-feet,
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high or not. You know, it doesn't matter that
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I'm structure of you and you trip over something and then
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it's your fault because you weren't wearing green tag shoes
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even though you're a rural carrier.
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And then even that it was you know, you sometimes have these
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boxes, these abnormally large boxes with something heavy in it
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and it's not in the Box correctly or shifts, whatever's
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in there wants to shift back and forth on you.
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We're going to carry on more than one at a time.
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Don't forget, the awkward teeth to Teemu packages there that
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look like they were wrapped by a dad in a hurry at Christmas
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time. I was just a was with what you
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were just saying. Kristen that brings me to like,
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with Team lift team with doesn't necessarily mean heavy. it's
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awkward like if it has if it's a little bit longer and it has a
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shifting of piece of shifts or slides in there, which will
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change the distribution of weight.
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That potentially could be a team with package.
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I wanted to share this with everybody, because when we
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started this, And you know, our main goal for those of you out
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there, they're not quite sure list to get people active within
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the union. Have a lot of those keyboard
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Warriors that want to talk a lot of stuff, but they don't want to
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do anything to attempt to change anything. and, Well that was our
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main goal. You know I a lot of us are just
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want change. You got to be active, you got to
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have you got a voice yourself? they're, that means your Thing
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for your local or going to be a delegate at your State,
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Convention going to your local meetings, you know.
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I'll all that stuff, you know, running for Delegate for
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National Convention, running for office for State national local
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boards. You know, it all that can make a
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difference in one way or another and we have had several people
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reach out to us to let us know that because of all of us you
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know they're running further locals instead of getting out of
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the Union, I'll many people you know you got all these people
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there. How do I get out?
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How do I get out and All these, then you have we've had quite a
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few come to us. So, you know, I was going to get
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out, but I decided to go the other direction and I'm running
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to be my local or I'm going to my state meetings now.
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Or am I, first time delicate at my State Convention that to us
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was our main goal. It's not necessarily Oh, what
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people think it may be? I'm trying to put it in terms.
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It's not going to flag the people who may be listening.
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Hi guys, it's it's to get me Collective.
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Yeah, we're making a concerted effort to strengthen the bond
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between rural carriers here. That's the biggest thing that
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we're trying to do is is bring people together to follow a
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common theme, which is to build up Up the rural craft
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dues-paying nandu is paying. It doesn't matter.
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We want you guys to be more involved in everyday life as a
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rural carrier. No it.
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And it also, you know, the more people that are active in the
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more people that are stepping up and that's potentially the Next
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Generation, that could be seated at those boards.
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That's, you know, people are going to be aging out in
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retiring or, you know, worse. I don't want to, you know, say
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that. But, you know, things happen.
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And there's got to be people that are willing to step up and
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take on those roles. And being active is a number One
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way to decide if those people that are willing to step up or
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worthy of those positions. Are you yourself thinking that
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maybe hey, you know, maybe I'll try and go for that, you know,
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it's you can't and Kristen, let me add in here.
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But can I add in here now? Yeah, you were talking about,
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you know, get involved in the local state and, you know,
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Regional National, but the the first thing we're trying to do
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is get you to step up in your office.
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Protect yourself. Protect others.
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Challenge management. Greet me, get walk on you.
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Yeah. So if you start to step, stand
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up for yourself, guess what? You made the first positive step
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in regards to what we're trying to accomplish, we're trying to
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help you protect yourself from management.
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And it starts right in your office every day.
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I would say even if you just Doing more than acknowledging
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that the contract exists. The sink, you know, 603 exist.
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The you're actually opening it up looking through, it retaining
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that information. Which is the rules that we that
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govern our job. That is the handbook that is,
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you know, that is the rules and regulation we have to follow and
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that management should be following.
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So you know, what is expected of you and what manage how
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management should be? Following those rules. so, you
31:41
can protect yourself when your own and if you have questions,
31:46
you know, get with your local representation so they can
31:52
assist you in better understanding what it says. you
31:59
know, because there is a lot of for lack of better.
32:03
Terms, grey terminology A lot of ambiguity and can be yeah, that,
32:11
you know, that's up to interpretation.
32:18
Yeah, you don't have to be a local Steward to get this
32:22
information either. You don't have to be the
32:26
District representative of the Union, to get this information.
32:29
You can have this information as a rural carrier because your job
32:34
depends on knowing this information depends on you
32:38
understanding this information. We're just trying to entice you
32:43
to go investigate this information and understand this
32:48
information. Wrong.
32:51
P 603 should be get every single case.
32:55
Interesting about it, your case. Well you Barbie lighting
32:57
management. No, because that's standard
32:59
operation 40 contract is available on the NRL, see a
33:05
website. And even if you're not a member,
33:10
there are other websites that can give you that information,
33:14
or you can ask your management for a copy of.
33:17
It management should have a copy of it too.
33:21
That's what he said, should they should.
33:26
But they do have some, do they do have access to it on blue?
33:37
It was so they do have access to it.
33:41
A lot of my say I don't have access to that.
33:42
Yes they do. Even if you aren't a
33:44
full-fledged management member you can access it on blue.
33:50
Well, my supervised so stupid when I asked for the radar
33:53
report. She said she didn't live near
33:56
the airport. I thought you would have said,
34:01
she doesn't know the weather. She didn't know whether she
34:06
lived near the airport. Oh God, or she would have said,
34:17
I've never spent in my life, I don't know.
34:19
A radar is, you know, what's nice about being on the cruise
34:25
ship? Is that unless you sign up for a
34:28
30 dollar a day, Wi-Fi option on there, you know, you don't get
34:33
anything, are you your phone until you hit a Port of Call
34:37
that first Port of Call was Orlando, my phone blew up Next,
34:42
the next Port of Call was NASA, my phone blew up.
34:46
I'm sitting there going, what the hell is going on in my
34:48
office? So, any other things you guys
35:01
want to found on About Management with this, these
35:05
updates they're giving us other than carriers, getting talk to
35:10
about scans that they're now making that they weren't making
35:13
before. but even some of them I've seen, say that, you know,
35:19
they've always been making these scans but now because they're
35:25
Watching a more closely. It's a somebody with a large CD
35:33
use a large amount of CPUs and it takes them three or four or
35:38
five trips. Now they're getting flagged on
35:42
that even though it's something they've been in putting in from
35:44
the beginning. Well then they should get a
35:50
satchel. Because the credit for a satchel
35:53
is a lot higher than multiple authorized dismount.
35:59
Because then that's a Time factor to.
36:02
Yeah, because number one, you get the, you get the Satchel
36:05
credit for taking the spatula at the office and loading it with
36:10
your first see, BU. And then they have to come out
36:13
and time you for each reload for each consecutive CBU section
36:19
that you have Management. Also claiming that the
36:27
eventually be able to change the wreck scans and they'll have a
36:30
program to do that. That's what I just heard that.
36:34
I just heard that to the other day I'm like really.
36:37
So not only are you changing our times on our time cards
36:41
previously. Now you're going to be able to
36:44
change the scans that we input. So now I'm a input 15 unscanned
36:50
Parcels in the day and you go. Nope.
36:52
That's Wrong. I'm only giving you for, I don't
36:55
think so. I'm sorry if I input a scan,
37:00
there's a reason I input that scan, and if you change it on
37:03
me, that's a falsifying, a government document and any
37:06
carrier. That's getting.
37:07
That should be fighting for that.
37:13
Ode to change a scan is, if you Something an error scrolling
37:20
through like a start deviation. Just something that's awkwardly
37:23
hanging out there that shouldn't be mmm-hmm or an alcoholic.
37:28
Allow return to watch or a return to lunch without a not
37:32
out to lunch or a double clock in or something of that nature
37:37
where you're scrolling through to hit return to unit and you
37:40
hit something and you have no clue what you hit you know that
37:44
we go. Hey I just hit something by
37:45
accident you know, can we take care of that?
37:48
That I could see. It's being, okay.
37:52
The only thing, I'd rather I'd rather.
37:57
The extra tents for the two-step.
38:03
To verify, you know, to put up the, the verification message.
38:08
Do you want to? Start deviation.
38:12
Or did you want to? Clock apps, sell stamps.
38:20
Why do you like the city carriers?
38:23
Why don't they? They were potentially talking
38:49
about trying to get it. So we gra those out, once you
38:52
get them the first time, yeah. Any any scan that does not have
38:57
a second window to it? Should have a verification
39:00
attached to it and once it's been done once, if it's a single
39:03
use, only scan, it should be grayed out.
39:06
And if you don't have this, if you don't have the clock in
39:11
clock out, should be grayed out. Until after, you know, that
39:15
talking. Yeah, you know, it should gray
39:20
out the ones that you can't use, until you've done the one before
39:24
it. So if you haven't hit load,
39:27
start load vehicle and load vehicle should be grayed out.
39:32
Technically clock out and be great out until you hit return
39:36
to unit. Well.
39:41
That depends. Because if you think about it,
39:44
your post is dues and that type of stuff are down underneath.
39:50
So, I mean, you could accidentally clock out when you
39:53
go to hit a posters do, If you don't, you'll be
40:07
brought into. You have to still be in the
40:09
office because management won't call off.
40:12
But they say, you don't have to take the trucks out but case
40:15
everything up. So you should still be clocking
40:18
in but you should not load truck to Parker out all that stuff so
40:22
you should be able to still clock out with the scanner.
40:26
You know it'll be interesting to see if they do anything with
40:29
those in general. Are we this a or if with the you
40:33
get sick on the route or an incident occurs?
40:40
you not going back and going to no, and these scanners, you can
40:51
adjust the sensitivity on him, but that doesn't always help you
40:55
because if you would like to have the option of Finger and
41:03
stylus or glove in Silas. Well, the stylus is more
41:06
sensitive. You know, when you get rain
41:10
drops on them, they start to go off on their own, you know, with
41:14
as dry as it's been too, right? Sunlight or it's dries, it's
41:20
been in my area due to the lack of rain.
41:23
We just finally got a little bit of today and you know, I don't
41:27
have to wipe the dust off of those know who knows, you, you
41:32
pump it up against your water bottle on it, on the tray, or
41:35
you set it upside down and it just starts going off on you.
41:39
Oh, there's so many things, but My scanner.
41:44
So sensitive, he cries. That too.
41:49
Well, it's because it's your scanner Bill.
41:51
We know how you treat it. Actually.
41:54
Hey Kristen Kristen Stan, got a question for you Chris.
41:58
Okay. Is there somebody you know on
42:00
this podcast that would love to get into the servers to find out
42:05
whether or not they record? The changes management.
42:07
Does two carriers entries, you know somebody.
42:11
Uh-huh. Why?
42:14
I just might I just might yeah. Yeah, I know you would.
42:22
I actually want to see the entire program.
42:24
I want to see all the all the coding that went into these
42:27
scanners actually want to go line by line in the coating.
42:32
Yeah, you'd be sitting there like you're on viagra for 24
42:36
hours. Do you think four pages of
42:43
questions is a lot for something?
42:45
Just imagine the the document I'd write reading through that
42:48
coating of the scanners that I'd have.
42:53
All right. Look, all right, by never.
42:54
You mean? No, but if F men, if management
43:02
is allowed to edit scans, I 100% require personally and I think
43:13
everybody would require this to that it pops up an alert on the
43:18
carrier scanner that they did it.
43:22
The next day when you log into that scanner and you sign in
43:26
with your name and it was your edit your edits that were
43:30
changed. It should tell you that you're
43:32
at your scans from the previous day were edited by management.
43:38
Because you're going to have management members and I know of
43:42
somebody who would that would go in and remove everybody's
43:47
information. We all know some manager that's
43:51
going to do that and are tweak. The numbers to an acceptable
43:55
amount exactly like Bill was saying, you know, oh there's an
44:01
acceptable amount, but this is way too high for that.
44:04
Well, guess what, that's what they're going to be doing, or
44:06
like, like I was just talking about with the eight weeks
44:09
previously, where carriers are getting talk to about that?
44:12
Well, they'll edit those numbers down to where they're now an
44:14
acceptable levels. So they don't have to get a
44:16
message from their district manager.
44:21
We can't allow them to do that. That was my biggest concern with
44:26
the DPS errors Journey at the mini mail survey that management
44:31
saying is unacceptable on what Baseline are they making that
44:35
assumption because nobody counts them during the eight weeks the
44:39
year or two years prior to the men email survey.
44:43
So where's their Baseline established?
44:47
Laughter cuz cuz imma let me tell you, yeah, it DPS hasn't
44:52
been all that clean lately. No, I have more upside down than
44:56
regulars, left last week. Yeah, this this past week I had
45:02
in the same day. Spectrum, which is a cable
45:07
company. And then the water company both
45:11
had a well. The Spectrum was Nine probably
45:16
80 to 90% coverage. The water company was 100%
45:20
coverage were except for one hands Holdsworth but the clerk
45:25
put into the machine. We're all upside down.
45:30
Little Rock's wrote that are usually only has a handful maybe
45:34
two of DPS a day. 99 boxes. Yesterday for example, I was
45:42
going in and and Friday I was pulling stuff out for every
45:46
other route in my office plus a couple neighboring towns and
45:50
that is actually kind of rare for my ID PSI, my Ox route.
45:55
Usually it's really on point maybe once in a great while I'll
45:58
get I miss Center, I miss sort but I had quite a bit the last
46:03
two days. Well, like I said that one day,
46:10
you're talking 1200 plus pieces and Barry were upside down.
46:20
To me what's amazing to me is that management seems to think
46:23
that if they micromanage us worse than they do City
46:27
carriers, I feel bad for our city carry brother and listening
46:30
to the conference calls from the district managers.
46:35
I do feel really bad for our city, carrier Brethren and
46:39
sisters, but they're trying to micromanage us like City
46:43
carriers, and go above and beyond.
46:45
And they do with City carriers and treating us like like were
46:48
criminals. Doing these extra scams.
46:52
And we are criminals. Most of us are doing it.
46:55
The right way, most of us are doing exactly what we're
46:58
supposed to be doing, and we're still being treated like
47:00
criminals stealing money from the post office, just because
47:04
we're being actually factually accurate.
47:10
Never ending. But you do have those few out
47:16
there they're trying to cheat the system which triggers all
47:20
these alerts which is what it's supposed to be for.
47:24
But you've got to carriers that are doing the right thing that
47:26
are getting marked like me. I've been doing the proper scans
47:30
over the last year and I can say that because my management said
47:34
I was doing a mall for the last year and I'm still getting
47:38
flagged for it. Why am I getting flagged when
47:42
the eight weeks prior to them an email survey?
47:44
I was doing the scans that above and beyond the six cans, but
47:48
yet, even I'm getting flagged Everybody's getting flagged in
47:53
one way or another, except the routes that have zeros.
47:59
Nobody's paying attention to the routes that have zeros.
48:03
Those are the ones that they should really be talking to.
48:06
Well, I agree. 100%, yeah, if 96 percent of your office is, you
48:14
know, making the entry and 4% isn't there, something wrong
48:17
with the 4%, folks? So if you have access and that's
48:24
where they need, the upper management needs to get to their
48:28
local management be like, hey, oh did you not train these
48:32
people properly? But again that's not going to
48:34
happen because it works out in their favor and not the carriers
48:39
So, if you get sat down to talk about why you're doing
48:42
quote-unquote, excessive scans asked him to see how the whole
48:45
office is doing. And if you see carriers, that
48:48
have zeros take the time and talk with your brothers and
48:50
sisters and say, hey look, I was just in talking about getting
48:54
excessive scanned, even though I'm doing immaculately.
48:57
But they showed me the sheet and I'm showing they were showing me
49:00
that you guys weren't getting the same scans.
49:02
I was there anything I can do to help you understand the scans a
49:05
little better to help your route.
49:09
Talk with your fellow carriers, help them out, but I think the
49:14
biggest ones that are getting flagged were the ones that
49:16
weren't trained to how to properly do the scans.
49:19
And then once they became aware of how to do the scans.
49:23
And now they're actually doing the scans are now getting
49:26
flagged because they weren't doing them before.
49:29
Yep. It's, you know, is just again,
49:35
it's not right. And of course, make sure you're
49:41
talking with your designated union representative, especially
49:45
if you keep getting asked, why you're doing so many scans and
49:48
stuff like that. Talk through designated union,
49:50
rep, they should have proper guidance for you and your local
49:53
area. You know, I feel like we're
49:58
doing one of those medicine commercials where they tell you
50:01
how this helps you, but I have 14 warnings of what it can do to
50:05
kill you. Talk.
50:07
But talk to your doctor and make sure it's the right choice for
50:11
you. That's right.
50:31
Everybody, I know. Is everybody, listening should
50:34
remember that. Yes, so you have to talk with
50:38
your local designated union. Representative about any issue,
50:42
you are having in your office because they're the ones that
50:45
are going to be in there with you.
50:47
When you talk with management, they're the ones that are going
50:50
to be in there fighting for you if management decides to turn
50:53
around and use scanner data for discipline.
50:55
When they should be, there are the ones who are going to be the
50:59
Ignition. You need in the office against
51:02
management so you should be talking with your designated
51:05
union rep. You should be friends with your
51:06
designating room, get to know. Your designated union rep and
51:10
understand where they're coming from, because they're going to
51:13
be on your side, whether they like you or not, they're going
51:16
to be on your side. If you get an answer of, I don't
51:21
know and certain topics. It's probably because they don't
51:27
know But they should go and find out.
51:31
They, yes, they should go and see if there is something out
51:37
there. However, there's a lot of
51:41
information that they just may not know right now,
51:44
unfortunately. But there are ways they can do
51:48
to get that information and they have the resources available to
51:53
them, to get that information if they wanted to.
51:59
So that information is even available.
52:02
Yeah, we sit here and oral diarrhea, all our information
52:06
out to you on this podcast, But at the end of the day, it's up
52:11
to your designated union. Representative to guide you in
52:14
the proper way of things. Yes, we are not official advice
52:19
by any means where this is just, this is entertainment purposes.
52:23
Only, this is, like, if we are sitting at the break room table
52:28
or out on a smoke break at a conference and we're all just
52:31
shooting the shit together. This is the ladies on it bill is
52:35
on a smoke break right now before or at the bar.
52:40
Exactly. Exactly.
52:42
Yes are out having dinner with your fellow carriers or we're
52:47
sitting sitting in the in the conference room.
52:50
Waiting for the local control local meeting to a start.
52:56
Or after that meeting. Yeah, it really doesn't help
53:00
when QA doesn't match the 99 page guide honestly.
53:06
Yeah that's it is starting to contradict itself and
53:11
unfortunately Or the questions like where the questions?
53:15
I could ask that mid-stage, don't correlate to the questions
53:17
that people really have. Yeah.
53:23
On that note though. I think we're going to wind down
53:25
for the night and we miss Mike tonight but that's okay.
53:30
Well, he'll be back when you can and I'll use kind of busy
53:32
tonight and are happy to have Bill back and if you finish up
53:37
your move and get things situated.
53:41
Oh Josh, any of your last commentary for this evening.
53:47
I say just do what you know to be right, don't try and swap
53:57
numbers because as we can tell, you know, they're coming down on
54:03
This right now, I'm happy. This is going to be a short
54:06
week. I have, if I can make it through
54:09
till Wednesday, I am off until Tuesday the 27th because my
54:14
State Convention not this week coming up, but next weekend,
54:19
well next week. Don't, you know, try not to get
54:24
overwhelmed. If you do take a step back, take
54:26
a deep breath. Step back in.
54:30
And try and have a good week. A lot of a lot of talk on this
54:39
podcast is directed to help everybody in the rural craft and
54:45
we don't care if your dues paying or none dues-paying.
54:50
If you are out there on the streets, delivering the mail.
54:53
Day in day out, working your butt off, trying to do all these
54:57
wrecks cans and doing the job that you are being paid to do.
55:01
We're here for you. We're here to help you.
55:05
We're here to lead you in the direction.
55:08
You need to find the information that you need and direct you to
55:11
your local designated union representative.
55:14
We do this for our own entertainment and the biggest
55:19
takeaway you can have from this is I want to learn more And
55:25
everybody should approach every single day.
55:28
Trying to learn something new no matter what?
55:31
How small or how big it is, try to learn something new because
55:35
we grow as a union. When everybody learns, what they
55:40
need to learn, go out there, do your job be safe.
55:47
And go home to your family. No.
55:54
Well, let me just cap that off with, you know, the fact that we
56:00
do this for entertainment purposes only, but we're trying
56:04
to, you know, keep it light, keep it fun, but make it
56:07
informative along the way. We invest our time freely
56:12
unpaid. To help our feather fellow
56:18
brother Brethren and sisters. If we can take this time out and
56:24
we answer the emails and questions on the chat and
56:27
everything else, you can take 5 to 10 minutes a day to invest,
56:31
in protecting your job in, protecting yourself for
56:35
management and discipline in protecting your paycheck.
56:39
So if we're willing to put our asses out there, to help you
56:45
take 5 to 10 minutes a day to help yourself.
56:48
The more, you know, the stronger, you are and the
56:52
stronger, you are the stronger, your office will be because
56:55
you'll be able to step up and say, hey, that's not right, and
57:00
then they can be directed towards their local union.
57:03
Representative in regards to, you know, grieving it.
57:08
Midway week on a cruise too many people glad to be in solitude of
57:14
more or less with my wife and good be back.
57:18
Yeah you know on Solid Ground I don't mind ships but it's nice
57:24
to have my own personal space back and everybody go out have a
57:28
good week. Be careful.
57:31
Do your job, do it correctly. Do it to the best of your
57:34
ability? And then get your ass home to.
57:37
You're the ones that love you because you're the most
57:39
important delivery. At the end of the day, make sure
57:42
you get home to your family. God bless you all.
57:49
And I'm just gonna go agree with what everybody else has said,
57:52
you know, it's the start of a new week.
57:54
Let's let's be safe. Let's do our jobs properly and
57:59
efficiently and that note, we'll be back next week.
58:02
Have a good one, everyone.