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- 0:00Speaker 1: One early morning in April of 2012, a man was
- 0:02Speaker 1: walking through the woods in coastal France. He lived nearby
- 0:05Speaker 1: and he had just seen a column of smoke coming
- 0:08Speaker 1: out of the trees in this area. And so he
- 0:10Speaker 1: was just coming out here to make sure there was
- 0:12Speaker 1: not a brush fire or something. And so he walked
- 0:14Speaker 1: through the woods and eventually he reached the source of
- 0:17Speaker 1: the smoke. It was in this clearing and right away
- 0:19Speaker 1: he felt relieved because what he saw was just the
- 0:21Speaker 1: remains of a bonfire. And it was just smoldering and
- 0:24Speaker 1: now there was just some smoke coming up off of it.
- 0:27Speaker 1: He was about to turn around and go maybe get
- 0:29Speaker 1: some water and douse it out completely, but he smelled something.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Like it was a weird smell that clearly was coming
- 0:35Speaker 1: from the fire. And so curious, you know, there's nobody
- 0:38Speaker 1: else around. He just began walking to the fire to
- 0:41Speaker 1: see what was making this smell. And as he got
- 0:44Speaker 1: close enough, he realized there was something in that fire.
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- 1:39Speaker 1: the night of April 26th, 2012, a 39-year-old bouncer named
- 1:44Speaker 1: Lionel Varanez opened the door of a nightclub in Chambury, France,
- 1:47Speaker 1: and he let a woman inside. And as this woman
- 1:50Speaker 1: came in, she stopped and made a point to look
- 1:52Speaker 1: at Lionel and smile at him and thank him by name.
- 1:55Speaker 1: So Chambury was a small city up in the Alps,
- 1:58Speaker 1: and Lionel, the bouncer, was a fixture in its nightlife scene.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Pretty much everybody in town who went out to the
- 2:04Speaker 1: bars and clubs had either seen Lionel standing at the
- 2:07Speaker 1: door outside, or partying inside when he was not on
- 2:10Speaker 1: the clock. And it was not just the locals who
- 2:12Speaker 1: knew who this guy was. Lionel was also well-known among
- 2:15Speaker 1: the rich and famous tourists who often vacationed in Chambury,
- 2:19Speaker 1: and even sometimes he would pick up side work as
- 2:21Speaker 1: a bodyguard for these rich and famous people. And for Lionel,
- 2:25Speaker 1: I mean, his career as like sort of this fixture
- 2:28Speaker 1: in the nightlife scene was fun and pretty glamorous at times.
- 2:32Speaker 1: But it also could be dangerous. In fact, just a
- 2:34Speaker 1: few months ago, he got into this huge fistfight protecting
- 2:38Speaker 1: one of his clients. And in fact, he actually got
- 2:40Speaker 1: arrested for it. But tonight, Lionel was just trying to
- 2:43Speaker 1: get through a shift without any trouble. There was this
- 2:45Speaker 1: long line of people who were waiting outside the club,
- 2:47Speaker 1: waiting to get in. And Lionel checked their IDs one
- 2:50Speaker 1: by one and let them in. And then finally, when
- 2:53Speaker 1: the line started to clear, Lionel saw a familiar face
- 2:56Speaker 1: walking toward him. It was his good friend, Mike Booth,
- 2:59Speaker 1: who Lionel often went drinking with multiple times a week.
- 3:02Speaker 1: And at first, Lionel was just really glad to see Mike.
- 3:05Speaker 1: But as Mike got closer, Lionel realized that Mike actually
- 3:09Speaker 1: looked really mad. And so by the time Mike actually
- 3:11Speaker 1: reached Lionel, Lionel just said to him, like, hey, what's
- 3:15Speaker 1: going on? You look pretty upset. And Mike would tell
- 3:18Speaker 1: him that he had just been at his friend Philippe's house,
- 3:21Speaker 1: and Philippe had told him that seemed really, really weird.
- 3:25Speaker 1: So Philippe Perrier, Mike's friend, the guy whose house he
- 3:28Speaker 1: just came from, was extremely wealthy because his family ran
- 3:31Speaker 1: this world-famous winery near Chamboury. Now, Leonel had never actually
- 3:36Speaker 1: met Philippe himself, but he knew of him. His family
- 3:39Speaker 1: was incredibly well-connected in town because they're so rich and
- 3:41Speaker 1: they had this winery. And Mike was friends with him
- 3:44Speaker 1: and often talked about him. And so now Mike explained
- 3:47Speaker 1: to Leonel what this really weird thing was that he
- 3:50Speaker 1: heard when he was visiting with Philippe. So apparently, Philippe's
- 3:54Speaker 1: house had been robbed the day before. And Philippe believed Lionel,
- 4:00Speaker 1: the bouncer, was the one who had done it. Now,
- 4:03Speaker 1: Lionel immediately acted totally taken aback and began to ask Philippe, like,
- 4:08Speaker 1: why in the world would he even think that? But Mike,
- 4:11Speaker 1: you know, his buddy here, just cut him off. And
- 4:13Speaker 1: he's like, Lionel, don't play dumb. Like, Philippe knows you're
- 4:18Speaker 1: sleeping with his wife, Natalie. And Natalie is actually the
- 4:21Speaker 1: one who's blaming you for this robbery. Now, at this,
- 4:25Speaker 1: Lionel went from the sort of shock and awe reaction
- 4:28Speaker 1: to actually just feeling really nervous. He actually began to
- 4:31Speaker 1: sweat because, you know, he knew it was true. He
- 4:35Speaker 1: had slept with Natalie. He'd met her at a club
- 4:37Speaker 1: one night a couple of months ago, and they'd hooked
- 4:39Speaker 1: up in the coat check room. But Lionel realistically had
- 4:42Speaker 1: a lot of flings with a lot of different women,
- 4:45Speaker 1: and he'd actually pretty much completely forgotten about hooking up
- 4:48Speaker 1: with Natalie since it had just been like a casual thing,
- 4:51Speaker 1: and he hadn't seen her in weeks. And so he
- 4:53Speaker 1: had no idea why now, suddenly... she would be accusing
- 4:57Speaker 1: him of theft. Like, it doesn't really make any sense
- 4:59Speaker 1: to him. So Lionel, I mean, he was genuinely stunned.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I mean, he knew what he had done. He had
- 5:04Speaker 1: slept with Natalie, and that's problematic. But he told Mike
- 5:07Speaker 1: very truthfully that he did not break into Philippe's house. Like,
- 5:12Speaker 1: there was nothing going on between he and Natalie. That
- 5:15Speaker 1: was just a fling. It was nothing. Like, I really
- 5:18Speaker 1: didn't do this. But Mike, despite, you know, being friends
- 5:21Speaker 1: with Lionel and knowing him quite well, did not appear
- 5:25Speaker 1: to believe him. He just sort of narrowed his eyes
- 5:27Speaker 1: and nodded and said, okay, I'll pass that along to Philippe.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Three days later, on the night of April 29th, Lionel
- 5:37Speaker 1: sat in a chair in his living room in Chamburee,
- 5:40Speaker 1: finishing up a phone call. So he lived in a
- 5:42Speaker 1: small apartment with his mother and also his nephew, Julian. However,
- 5:46Speaker 1: Julian was just four years younger than him, so in
- 5:48Speaker 1: many ways they were more like brothers. And so as
- 5:50Speaker 1: soon as Lionel hung up the phone... Julian, who was
- 5:53Speaker 1: sitting in the room with him on the other side
- 5:55Speaker 1: on the couch watching TV, he immediately asked Lionel, who
- 5:59Speaker 1: were you talking to? Lionel got up and he walked
- 6:01Speaker 1: over and sat down next to Julian on the couch.
- 6:04Speaker 1: And then he said to him, oh, that was my
- 6:05Speaker 1: friend Mike. And he just called to see if I
- 6:07Speaker 1: wanted to go out tonight for a drink. And so
- 6:09Speaker 1: Julian's like, okay, cool. And then there's a little bit
- 6:11Speaker 1: of silence. And then Lionel was like, actually, I want
- 6:14Speaker 1: to tell you something. And then he filled in Julian
- 6:17Speaker 1: on the weird conversation he had had with Mike just
- 6:20Speaker 1: a few days before. where basically Mike was saying that,
- 6:24Speaker 1: you know, Leonel was being accused of robbing this rich
- 6:26Speaker 1: guy's home, Philippe's home. And so Julian, when he heard this,
- 6:29Speaker 1: he was sort of like, this seems like a big deal.
- 6:33Speaker 1: But Leonel, despite being the one to bring it up
- 6:35Speaker 1: and being the one to indicate this could be a
- 6:38Speaker 1: big deal, he quickly downplayed it when he saw the
- 6:40Speaker 1: reaction and was just like, you know, it is what
- 6:42Speaker 1: it is. I didn't do it. And, you know, me
- 6:44Speaker 1: and Mike were back on good terms. This whole thing
- 6:46Speaker 1: was just, you know, a misunderstanding. Everything is back to
- 6:49Speaker 1: normal now. Just a weird thing that happened. And so
- 6:52Speaker 1: Lionel and Julian, they shifted the conversation and chatted about
- 6:55Speaker 1: whatever for the next couple of minutes. And then Lionel's
- 6:58Speaker 1: phone buzzed. And at the same time, he saw there
- 7:01Speaker 1: were headlights pulling up outside. So Lionel grabbed his jacket
- 7:04Speaker 1: and he told Julian he'd be back in a few hours.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Then he went out the door. Two days later, on
- 7:12Speaker 1: the evening of May 1st, 2012, Lionel's nephew, Julian, walked
- 7:16Speaker 1: into the Chamburee police station. He had spent the past
- 7:18Speaker 1: two days very worried and stressed because Leonel had not
- 7:22Speaker 1: come home after hanging out with Mike that night, and
- 7:24Speaker 1: he now was not answering his phone. And Leonel was
- 7:28Speaker 1: never gone for this long without giving Julian or his
- 7:31Speaker 1: mother a heads up. Julian had tried to convince himself
- 7:35Speaker 1: that he was just overreacting to this whole thing and
- 7:37Speaker 1: that Lionel could take care of himself. He was an adult.
- 7:40Speaker 1: He was a tough adult. You know, he could handle himself. However,
- 7:43Speaker 1: when he found out that Lionel also hadn't been at
- 7:46Speaker 1: work for the past couple of days, Julian knew something
- 7:50Speaker 1: was wrong. So Julian, after getting inside the station, he
- 7:53Speaker 1: walked right up to the front desk and told them,
- 7:56Speaker 1: I need to report somebody missing. The following afternoon, so
- 8:00Speaker 1: May 2nd, 2012, Captain Flaron Mazaron walked into an interrogation
- 8:05Speaker 1: room at the Chamboury police station. He was leading the
- 8:08Speaker 1: investigation into Lionel's missing person case, and sitting inside of
- 8:12Speaker 1: the interrogation room at the table was, so far, the
- 8:16Speaker 1: only suspect they had in this case. Lionel's friend, Mike Booth,
- 8:20Speaker 1: who he had gone out with on the night he
- 8:22Speaker 1: had disappeared. So it had only been a few days
- 8:25Speaker 1: since anyone had seen Lionel, but Mazarin was already sure
- 8:29Speaker 1: that there was foul play involved. Chamboury was a small town,
- 8:34Speaker 1: and a lot of the officers on the police force
- 8:36Speaker 1: there knew Lionel. And a couple of them were pretty
- 8:39Speaker 1: much adamant that Lionel was just not the kind of
- 8:42Speaker 1: person who would just leave town with no warning. Julian,
- 8:45Speaker 1: Lionel's nephew, had said the exact same thing when he
- 8:48Speaker 1: reported Lionel missing. He also was the one who told
- 8:51Speaker 1: police that the last person Lionel was with was Mike
- 8:54Speaker 1: on the night he went missing. And Mike also, they
- 8:57Speaker 1: found out, had recently accused Lionel of robbing someone's house.
- 9:01Speaker 1: So Mazarin was really eager to get in there and
- 9:04Speaker 1: hear what Mike had to say. So into the room
- 9:06Speaker 1: he went, he sat down across from Mike, who seemed
- 9:09Speaker 1: calm but also definitely curious, like he wasn't sure even
- 9:13Speaker 1: why he was there. And when Mazarin started in by
- 9:16Speaker 1: asking him about the robbery that supposedly Lionel was involved in,
- 9:21Speaker 1: Mike just nodded and explained that the break-in had happened
- 9:24Speaker 1: about a week earlier at the home of his good friend,
- 9:26Speaker 1: Philippe Perrier. And when Mazarin heard that name, he sort
- 9:29Speaker 1: of raised an eyebrow, because like basically everybody else in Chamburee,
- 9:34Speaker 1: Mazarin knew who the Perriers were. And he was surprised
- 9:37Speaker 1: that someone so rich and so powerful would be running
- 9:40Speaker 1: in the same circles as, you know, sort of traditional
- 9:43Speaker 1: working class men like Mike and like Lionel. However, before
- 9:47Speaker 1: he could dive in and ask some basic follow-up questions
- 9:51Speaker 1: about how he knows the Perrier's, Mike went on to
- 9:54Speaker 1: say that he ran an electrician business and he had
- 9:56Speaker 1: a warehouse that was right next to Philippe's winery. So,
- 9:59Speaker 1: they saw each other all the time. And he said
- 10:02Speaker 1: that Philippe knew Mike was friends with Lionel. And so
- 10:06Speaker 1: after this break-in and robbery happened, he had asked Mike
- 10:09Speaker 1: to talk to Lionel about it because he was suspicious
- 10:11Speaker 1: that he had done it. But Mike said when he
- 10:14Speaker 1: actually confronted Lionel just a few days ago and brought
- 10:18Speaker 1: up the break-in, that Lionel had sworn he didn't know
- 10:21Speaker 1: anything about it. And Mike had passed that on to Philippe,
- 10:24Speaker 1: and as far as he knew, that had been the
- 10:27Speaker 1: end of it. Like, they were not going to continue
- 10:28Speaker 1: to assume that Lionel had anything to do with it. Now,
- 10:32Speaker 1: Mike was being so earnest as he told the story
- 10:35Speaker 1: that Mazarin thought there was a good chance he was
- 10:37Speaker 1: simply telling the truth here, and that this robbery thing
- 10:40Speaker 1: was really just a big misunderstanding. However, when Mazarin asked
- 10:44Speaker 1: Mike where he had been on Sunday night, when Lionel
- 10:47Speaker 1: was last seen, presumably... with Mike, Mike's whole demeanor changed.
- 10:51Speaker 1: He began to visibly shift in his seat and began
- 10:54Speaker 1: looking down at the table instead of eye contact with Mazarin.
- 10:58Speaker 1: And then he just said that he had been home
- 11:00Speaker 1: all night with his girlfriend. He did say at a
- 11:03Speaker 1: certain point he had called Leonel to try to make
- 11:05Speaker 1: plans with him for that night, but they'd never actually
- 11:09Speaker 1: met up and they didn't see each other. Now, at
- 11:11Speaker 1: this point, Mazarin was pretty confident that Mike was lying,
- 11:15Speaker 1: not just because of Mike's very obvious change in body language,
- 11:19Speaker 1: But Lionel's nephew had sworn he had seen Mike's car
- 11:22Speaker 1: outside their building on that night that Mike is saying
- 11:25Speaker 1: he did not meet up with Lionel. Now, it was
- 11:28Speaker 1: possible that Julian had been mistaken. But if Mike was
- 11:32Speaker 1: lying to the police about having been with Lionel on
- 11:34Speaker 1: the night he disappeared, well, that made Mike seem very,
- 11:38Speaker 1: very suspicious. And so Mazeron just put Mike on the
- 11:42Speaker 1: spot and said, OK, give me your girlfriend's name and
- 11:44Speaker 1: her contact information so I can confirm your alibi. And
- 11:47Speaker 1: so he did. He handed it over. And then Mazeron
- 11:50Speaker 1: got up, left the interrogation room, and went to go
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- 13:31Speaker 1: On the evening of May 2nd, 2012, so just a
- 13:33Speaker 1: few hours after questioning Mike Booth about Leonel's disappearance... Captain
- 13:37Speaker 1: Mazarin drove up to a big house in a quiet,
- 13:40Speaker 1: wealthy suburb just outside of Chambéry, France. Now, by this point,
- 13:44Speaker 1: he had already spoken to Mike's girlfriend, who had confirmed
- 13:48Speaker 1: what Mazarin was already thinking, which was Mike was lying
- 13:53Speaker 1: about spending the whole night of Lionel's disappearance at home
- 13:56Speaker 1: with her. In fact, she said that Mike hadn't been
- 13:58Speaker 1: home at all. She said she had been at home
- 14:01Speaker 1: by herself all night. She had watched a movie. And
- 14:05Speaker 1: then at some point she had fallen asleep, maybe around midnight.
- 14:08Speaker 1: And at that point, when she fell asleep, Mike still
- 14:11Speaker 1: was not back from wherever he was. So right now,
- 14:14Speaker 1: Mike was not only their sole suspect, but he was
- 14:17Speaker 1: also their best suspect. Mazran knew that a few days
- 14:21Speaker 1: before Lionel's disappearance, Mike had confronted Lionel about this supposed
- 14:26Speaker 1: robbery at Philippe Perrier's house. And so now Mazran was
- 14:30Speaker 1: at Philippe's house to see what he had to say
- 14:32Speaker 1: about the whole situation. And so Mazarin pulled his car
- 14:35Speaker 1: up in front of the house, he parked, he got out,
- 14:38Speaker 1: he walked up to the front door, and he rang
- 14:39Speaker 1: the doorbell. And a moment later, Philippe himself opened the door.
- 14:43Speaker 1: And he seemed genuinely surprised to see Mazarin standing there.
- 14:47Speaker 1: And so he quickly asked Mazarin if he was here
- 14:50Speaker 1: to follow up on the robbery investigation. And Mazarin said,
- 14:54Speaker 1: sort of. Mazarin said, for now, he just wanted to
- 14:57Speaker 1: know if he could come inside and they could chat.
- 14:59Speaker 1: And for a moment, it seemed at least to Mazarin
- 15:02Speaker 1: that Philippe sort of hesitated, like he didn't necessarily want
- 15:04Speaker 1: to do that. But then he sort of relaxed and
- 15:08Speaker 1: nodded and said, sure. And he let Mazarin inside. And
- 15:11Speaker 1: so Mazarin, he stepped inside of this beautiful house that
- 15:14Speaker 1: was very well furnished, and he was led to the
- 15:17Speaker 1: living room. And Mazarin took a seat. And then after
- 15:20Speaker 1: Philippe sat down as well, he asked Philippe to walk
- 15:22Speaker 1: him through what had happened with the supposed robbery. Philippe
- 15:26Speaker 1: explained that his wife Natalie had come home one afternoon,
- 15:29Speaker 1: and when she had come into the living room, she
- 15:31Speaker 1: saw one of the windows had been shattered. And then
- 15:33Speaker 1: Mazarin said that, you know, after seeing this, they searched
- 15:36Speaker 1: the house, and they eventually went downstairs to the basement
- 15:39Speaker 1: where their safe was, and they found their safe had
- 15:41Speaker 1: been broken into as well, and a lot of cash
- 15:44Speaker 1: that had been in there was gone. Philippe said he
- 15:47Speaker 1: had called the police about it, and they'd come out
- 15:49Speaker 1: to investigate, but so far he hadn't heard anything. And
- 15:53Speaker 1: so Mazarin, after hearing this, asked Philippe if he thought
- 15:56Speaker 1: he knew who was responsible. And Philippe immediately nodded and
- 16:00Speaker 1: said yes. Then he repeated what Mike Buffett said. It
- 16:03Speaker 1: was Lionel Varanese. And the reason he knew that was
- 16:07Speaker 1: Lionel was having an affair with his wife Natalie, and
- 16:10Speaker 1: Natalie said it was Lionel. Mazarin looked really hard at
- 16:14Speaker 1: Philippe because this was huge. If Philippe knew that Lionel
- 16:19Speaker 1: was having an affair with his wife... That gave him, Philippe,
- 16:22Speaker 1: plenty of motive to want Lionel dead. And as of
- 16:26Speaker 1: right now, Lionel was gone and no one knew what
- 16:28Speaker 1: happened to him, so maybe he was murdered. And so
- 16:31Speaker 1: operating on a hunch, Mazarin followed up by asking Philippe
- 16:35Speaker 1: if he had any weapons in the house. And to
- 16:38Speaker 1: his surprise, Philippe said yes. And so Mazarin asked if
- 16:42Speaker 1: he could see them. And so Philippe got up and
- 16:45Speaker 1: led him over to the stairs that went down to
- 16:46Speaker 1: the basement. And when they got down there, there was
- 16:49Speaker 1: this huge gun safe with a few plastic firearm cases
- 16:52Speaker 1: stacked around it. And so Philippe, once they got down there,
- 16:55Speaker 1: he sort of stepped out of the way so that
- 16:56Speaker 1: Mazarin could look around. And almost as soon as he
- 16:59Speaker 1: did begin walking around Mazarin and began opening up these cases,
- 17:03Speaker 1: he discovered that one of those cases, which had space
- 17:06Speaker 1: for two weapons in it, was empty. And so Mazarin
- 17:10Speaker 1: asked Philippe, like, hey, where are the two guns that
- 17:12Speaker 1: go in this case? And Philippe said, actually, those were
- 17:16Speaker 1: stolen during the robbery. However, after hearing this, and as
- 17:19Speaker 1: Mazarin is staring at this empty gun case, something just
- 17:23Speaker 1: was not adding up. Philippe clearly had a motive to
- 17:27Speaker 1: want to hurt Lionel as he was having an affair
- 17:29Speaker 1: with his wife. And he happened to have two missing guns. Now,
- 17:34Speaker 1: of course, at this point, Mazarin did not know if
- 17:37Speaker 1: Lionel was definitely, you know, dead, and therefore couldn't know
- 17:42Speaker 1: if he had been shot or not. But still, this
- 17:44Speaker 1: was really suspicious. But at the same time, Philippe was
- 17:48Speaker 1: from this very wealthy and highly respected family. He didn't
- 17:52Speaker 1: really seem like the kind of person who would go
- 17:55Speaker 1: around murdering or kidnapping people in revenge. And if he had,
- 17:59Speaker 1: let's say, done something bad to Lionel, it was just
- 18:02Speaker 1: odd that he would just so readily admit to clearly
- 18:06Speaker 1: having a motive to harm Lionel and to show the
- 18:10Speaker 1: detective a basement full of weapons, including a gun case
- 18:13Speaker 1: that was missing weapons. And so, basically, until Mazarin was
- 18:18Speaker 1: able to figure out what actually happened to Lionel, until
- 18:21Speaker 1: that time, he would have a really hard time proving
- 18:24Speaker 1: that Philippe had anything to do with it. The next morning,
- 18:29Speaker 1: Captain Mazarin was in his office at the police station,
- 18:31Speaker 1: going over the notes from his interview with Philippe to
- 18:34Speaker 1: see if there was anything he missed. At this point,
- 18:37Speaker 1: Mazarin's theory was that either Mike or Philippe, or maybe
- 18:41Speaker 1: even both of them, had gone to confront Lionel about
- 18:44Speaker 1: the affair and about the robbery, and then things had
- 18:47Speaker 1: turned violent. But just then, there was a knock on
- 18:50Speaker 1: his door, and Mazarin turned, and he saw his door
- 18:53Speaker 1: was open, and there was this woman standing there, and
- 18:56Speaker 1: her face was stained with tears, and when she walked
- 18:59Speaker 1: into the room, she sort of was heavy and stumbling,
- 19:02Speaker 1: like she was maybe on drugs or maybe drunk or
- 19:05Speaker 1: maybe on heavy medication, and she sort of stumbled into
- 19:08Speaker 1: the room and then introduced herself as Natalie Perrier. So
- 19:12Speaker 1: Mazarin had actually earlier called on her to come in
- 19:15Speaker 1: and speak to him, both to verify her husband's story
- 19:18Speaker 1: about what happened, the robbery, the affair, and also to
- 19:21Speaker 1: see what else she might know about Lionel. And also,
- 19:24Speaker 1: since she clearly was involved in this whole potential love
- 19:27Speaker 1: triangle here, he had to also consider her as a
- 19:30Speaker 1: potential suspect in whatever happened to Lionel. So he gestured
- 19:34Speaker 1: for Natalie to take a seat, and then once she had,
- 19:37Speaker 1: he asked her to tell him all about how she
- 19:39Speaker 1: had met Lionel. Natalie, at this point, really clearly could
- 19:44Speaker 1: not sort of keep herself together. She kept apologizing and
- 19:48Speaker 1: kept explaining that she was on prescription medication. that made
- 19:50Speaker 1: it really hard for her to keep a grip on
- 19:53Speaker 1: her emotions, and this whole situation had really rattled her.
- 19:56Speaker 1: But eventually, after this sort of setup about how sorry
- 20:00Speaker 1: she is and what a mess she is, she eventually
- 20:02Speaker 1: tells Mazarin that she had met Lionel at a nightclub
- 20:06Speaker 1: and that, yes, they had hooked up a few times,
- 20:09Speaker 1: but Since the last time, they hadn't seen each other,
- 20:11Speaker 1: and it had been quite a while, like it was nothing.
- 20:14Speaker 1: When Mazeron asked her about the robbery, she said that
- 20:17Speaker 1: Lionel had told her about having serious gambling debts from
- 20:20Speaker 1: playing poker, and so because of that, she had just
- 20:24Speaker 1: sort of naturally suspected that he must have robbed them.
- 20:27Speaker 1: She also added that, just to be clear, her and
- 20:30Speaker 1: Philippe were both at their home all night on the
- 20:33Speaker 1: evening that Lionel disappeared, and that if Philippe had gone
- 20:36Speaker 1: to confront Lionel at any point, She did not know
- 20:39Speaker 1: anything about it. And so at this point, Mazarin sat
- 20:42Speaker 1: back in his chair and just considered what he was
- 20:44Speaker 1: seeing and what he was hearing. Natalie seemed genuinely devastated
- 20:48Speaker 1: by this whole situation. To Mazarin, it seemed like she
- 20:51Speaker 1: was believable, that she was coming in here telling the truth.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And so he really doubted that she directly had anything
- 20:58Speaker 1: to do with Leonel's disappearance. However, while Natalie's emotional state
- 21:02Speaker 1: certainly made her seem less likely as a suspect, Mazarin
- 21:06Speaker 1: wondered if Maybe her tears were a clue. By her
- 21:09Speaker 1: own account, she'd only had a fleeting relationship with Lionel,
- 21:13Speaker 1: not some, you know, passionate relationship or something. So maybe
- 21:17Speaker 1: the reason she's this upset is because she actually knows
- 21:20Speaker 1: that her husband was involved in what happened to Lionel.
- 21:33Speaker 1: A few days later, Captain Mazarin walked through a wooded
- 21:36Speaker 1: rural area near the coast, 220 miles away from Chambéry.
- 21:40Speaker 1: An officer from the Marseille police was walking a few
- 21:43Speaker 1: steps ahead of him. This officer had called Mazarin yesterday
- 21:46Speaker 1: to tell him that a body had been discovered in
- 21:50Speaker 1: these woods just after dawn on April 30th, so less
- 21:53Speaker 1: than 10 hours after Lionel was last seen by his family.
- 21:57Speaker 1: And after running the body's fingerprints through the database, they
- 22:00Speaker 1: had identified the victim. It was Lionel. And Mazarin was
- 22:04Speaker 1: baffled by this. Marseille was more than a four-hour drive
- 22:09Speaker 1: from Chambéry. And as far as Mazarin knew, Lionel didn't
- 22:13Speaker 1: know anybody in Marseille and did not go there with
- 22:16Speaker 1: any regularity. And there was just plenty of other wooded
- 22:20Speaker 1: areas closer to Chambéry. So why drive all the way
- 22:24Speaker 1: out here? It just didn't really make any sense. And
- 22:28Speaker 1: so Mazarin continued following this officer. And at some point,
- 22:31Speaker 1: they stepped into the small clearing and Mazarin saw there
- 22:34Speaker 1: was a pile of burnt logs and branches sort of
- 22:37Speaker 1: lying in the grass right in the middle. And the
- 22:39Speaker 1: other officer said that this was the spot where Lionel
- 22:41Speaker 1: was found. And then the officer pulled out a folder
- 22:44Speaker 1: that had photos of Lionel's body. And so Mazarin was
- 22:47Speaker 1: being brought here just to see exactly where it had
- 22:51Speaker 1: been found. And so Mazarin looked down at the photo
- 22:54Speaker 1: and what he saw was, you know, in the spot
- 22:56Speaker 1: that he was standing near, there was this smoldering bonfire.
- 23:00Speaker 1: It was clearly out, but there was still smoke coming
- 23:02Speaker 1: off of it. And then in the middle of all
- 23:04Speaker 1: these logs was clearly a charred corpse. The officer that
- 23:08Speaker 1: brought him here explained that the medical examiner had found
- 23:11Speaker 1: a gunshot wound in the back of Lionel's head. So
- 23:14Speaker 1: it did appear that he was actually killed before he
- 23:17Speaker 1: was set on fire. And so as Mazarin was taking
- 23:20Speaker 1: all this new information in, Everything just started to make sense.
- 23:24Speaker 1: So this was exactly how drug trafficking gangs in France
- 23:29Speaker 1: typically disposed of bodies. The police even had a name
- 23:32Speaker 1: for it. They called it a barbecue. The gangs would
- 23:35Speaker 1: shoot their victims in the head and then burn their
- 23:38Speaker 1: bodies over a bonfire to make them harder to identify.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Mazarin had assumed that Lionel's murder was a revenge killing.
- 23:46Speaker 1: But now it actually looked more likely that this could
- 23:48Speaker 1: have been a gang execution. None of Lionel's family or
- 23:52Speaker 1: friends had ever mentioned that he was involved with a
- 23:55Speaker 1: gang in any way, but Mazarin knew that Lionel worked
- 23:58Speaker 1: in nightclubs and had a history of breaking up fights,
- 24:01Speaker 1: so it was definitely possible that he might have crossed
- 24:04Speaker 1: paths with the wrong person. Also, there was the fact
- 24:07Speaker 1: that apparently Lionel had these huge debts from gambling. There's
- 24:11Speaker 1: just sort of a seedy underworld that potentially he was
- 24:14Speaker 1: around that could have led to him being killed this way. Also,
- 24:18Speaker 1: if this was gang-related, It would sort of explain why
- 24:22Speaker 1: he was all the way out here in Marseille, because
- 24:25Speaker 1: Marseille was a city that historically had a lot of
- 24:27Speaker 1: issues with drug trafficking and gangs. And so Mazarin realized
- 24:31Speaker 1: he could have been wrong about this case basically from
- 24:34Speaker 1: the start. Maybe Mike and Philippe actually had nothing to
- 24:37Speaker 1: do with it at all. Around 10 p.m. on May 5, 2012,
- 24:43Speaker 1: about 100 miles from the spot where Lionel's body was found,
- 24:46Speaker 1: Captain Florent Mazarin pulled into the parking lot of a
- 24:49Speaker 1: gas station. got out, he walked inside and told the
- 24:52Speaker 1: clerk that he needed to look at the security camera footage.
- 24:55Speaker 1: So during the four-hour drive from Marseille back to Chambéry,
- 24:59Speaker 1: so after Mazarin had gone out and seen where Lionel
- 25:02Speaker 1: had been found during that ride home, he had been
- 25:05Speaker 1: going back and forth between his first two suspects, Mike
- 25:08Speaker 1: and Philippe, and this new theory that a gang had
- 25:11Speaker 1: killed Lionel. And so he wasn't really sure how he
- 25:14Speaker 1: was going to navigate, like what to do here with
- 25:16Speaker 1: running these two sort of simultaneous investigations. But as he's driving,
- 25:21Speaker 1: as he's on his way back home, he realizes there
- 25:25Speaker 1: might actually be a way to prove whether or not
- 25:28Speaker 1: either Mike or Philippe were involved in this killing. There
- 25:31Speaker 1: were only two roads that connected Chambory to Marseille. And
- 25:35Speaker 1: so Lionel's killer or killers must have driven down one
- 25:38Speaker 1: of them at some point during the night of April 29th.
- 25:41Speaker 1: So Mazarin had been checking the cameras at every toll
- 25:44Speaker 1: booth and every gas station that he passed on his
- 25:47Speaker 1: drive to see if any of them had captured a
- 25:49Speaker 1: glimpse of Lionel. So far, he'd just been disappointed because
- 25:53Speaker 1: most of the cameras didn't even work or the footage
- 25:56Speaker 1: had already been erased or written over. And so now,
- 25:59Speaker 1: as he followed this clerk into the back room and
- 26:01Speaker 1: was shown to their computer to go ahead and look
- 26:04Speaker 1: at the footage, Mazarin was expecting that this stop would
- 26:07Speaker 1: be the same as all the others. A big disappointment. However,
- 26:11Speaker 1: as soon as they fired up the computer, right away
- 26:14Speaker 1: Mazarin saw that they did have footage and the footage
- 26:17Speaker 1: did cover the time period he was looking for. However,
- 26:20Speaker 1: when he began scanning the footage around the date of
- 26:23Speaker 1: April 29th, April 30th, at first nothing stood out. However,
- 26:28Speaker 1: when he reached the early hours of April 30th, where
- 26:30Speaker 1: he would normally stop and say, okay, I didn't see anything.
- 26:33Speaker 1: It is what it is. For whatever reason, he decided
- 26:36Speaker 1: to just keep on scanning the footage, just keep on
- 26:39Speaker 1: watching more of April 30th. And eventually, he did see
- 26:43Speaker 1: something of interest. At 5.43 a.m. on April 30th, a
- 26:47Speaker 1: black Volkswagen vehicle pulls into frame, and it actually parks
- 26:51Speaker 1: in the gas station parking lot. And this car, its
- 26:54Speaker 1: license plate ended in 73, which meant this car was
- 26:59Speaker 1: registered in Chamburee. He's watching this car, comes into the lot,
- 27:03Speaker 1: it parks, and the driver gets out. And right away,
- 27:06Speaker 1: Mazeron pauses the video and he zooms in on the
- 27:09Speaker 1: driver's face. But the video was just too grainy. He
- 27:13Speaker 1: couldn't tell who the driver was. But then something in
- 27:16Speaker 1: the passenger seat of this car catches his attention. And
- 27:19Speaker 1: so he zoomed in on the passenger seat. And when
- 27:22Speaker 1: he realized what he was looking at, his stomach just dropped.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Based on that video, forensic evidence, and interviews with witnesses,
- 27:36Speaker 1: this is what police believe happened to Leonel Varanese on
- 27:39Speaker 1: April 29th, 2012. Around 10.15 p.m., the killer sat in
- 27:51Speaker 1: the backseat of a car as it drove through the
- 27:53Speaker 1: streets of Chambray with a gun resting on the seat
- 27:56Speaker 1: next to them. Now, the killer had told the driver
- 27:58Speaker 1: that they were not planning to use the gun tonight,
- 28:01Speaker 1: It was just there for intimidation. However, the killer's emotions
- 28:05Speaker 1: were really running high, and they honestly weren't even sure
- 28:08Speaker 1: what they were going to do when they saw Lionel.
- 28:11Speaker 1: And so the car kept on driving along until eventually
- 28:13Speaker 1: it came to a stop outside of an apartment building,
- 28:16Speaker 1: and then a few seconds later, the passenger side front
- 28:19Speaker 1: door opened up, and Lionel climbed inside the car. As
- 28:23Speaker 1: the driver put the car back into gear and started
- 28:25Speaker 1: driving down the road, the killer from the back seat...
- 28:29Speaker 1: confronted Leonel about something that had really been bothering them,
- 28:33Speaker 1: and it gradually turned into a very heated argument. And then,
- 28:36Speaker 1: at some point, the killer raised that gun they weren't
- 28:40Speaker 1: going to use, aimed at the back of Leonel's head,
- 28:43Speaker 1: and fired. The driver immediately whipped around and looked at
- 28:47Speaker 1: the killer and just stared at them. They seemed completely
- 28:50Speaker 1: shocked by this crazy sudden escalation here, but they didn't
- 28:53Speaker 1: stop driving. Instead, they stepped on the gas and and
- 28:57Speaker 1: sped down the road until they reached a house. And
- 28:59Speaker 1: then the killer and the driver both went inside of
- 29:02Speaker 1: that house, and they formulated a plan for what would
- 29:04Speaker 1: happen next. So the plan was the driver, along with
- 29:08Speaker 1: another accomplice who was in the house they went to,
- 29:11Speaker 1: would drive down to Marseilles. They would find a secluded
- 29:14Speaker 1: spot out in the woods. They'd make a bonfire, and
- 29:16Speaker 1: they would burn Lionel's body. That's how they dispose of it.
- 29:20Speaker 1: And then on the way back, their plan was to
- 29:21Speaker 1: toss all the evidence into the river. As for the killer,
- 29:25Speaker 1: the one who actually pulled the trigger, they were going
- 29:29Speaker 1: to stay at this house. They were not going to leave.
- 29:31Speaker 1: The driver and the other accomplice agreed that the killer
- 29:35Speaker 1: had already caused enough trouble for one night. So the
- 29:38Speaker 1: killer just went upstairs and their bedroom, they slipped on
- 29:41Speaker 1: a robe, and they watched from the window as the
- 29:44Speaker 1: other two got into the car and drove off. The
- 29:47Speaker 1: killer was Philippe's wife, Nathalie Perrier, the woman Lionel had
- 29:52Speaker 1: had an affair with. To Lionel, their affair had been meaningless,
- 29:56Speaker 1: just a fling. but for Natalie, she wanted more. She'd
- 30:01Speaker 1: gotten bored of her quiet life as a luxurious housewife
- 30:04Speaker 1: in the suburbs, and she'd quickly fallen in love with
- 30:07Speaker 1: Lionel and the seemingly very exciting life that he lived.
- 30:11Speaker 1: And so when Lionel stopped paying attention to her, she'd
- 30:15Speaker 1: gotten so mad that she took revenge. She went with
- 30:19Speaker 1: Mike to pick up Lionel on the night he was
- 30:21Speaker 1: killed so that she could confront him. But moments after
- 30:25Speaker 1: Lionel got in the car, her emotions got the best
- 30:27Speaker 1: of her, And she shot and killed him. And this
- 30:30Speaker 1: was definitely not the plan that Mike had agreed to. Like,
- 30:34Speaker 1: he and her had discussed what was going to happen.
- 30:36Speaker 1: It didn't include murdering Leonel. But after the murder, Mike
- 30:40Speaker 1: didn't say, I'm going to go to the police. Instead,
- 30:43Speaker 1: he and Natalie went to her husband, Philippe, for help.
- 30:47Speaker 1: And Philippe agreed to dispose of Leonel's body and cover
- 30:50Speaker 1: up the crimes. On the security footage from the gas station,
- 30:54Speaker 1: what Mazeron saw in the passenger seat of that black
- 30:57Speaker 1: Volkswagen was Philippe. He was sitting there, just right in
- 31:00Speaker 1: the passenger seat, and it would turn out the driver
- 31:03Speaker 1: of the car was Mike. Natalie was ultimately convicted of
- 31:06Speaker 1: Lionel's murder and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Mike
- 31:10Speaker 1: was sentenced to six years for kidnapping and destroying evidence,
- 31:13Speaker 1: and Philippe was sentenced to three years for helping get
- 31:16Speaker 1: rid of Lionel's body. He and Natalie are now divorced.
- 31:19Speaker 1: And also, as for that robbery that played seemingly a
- 31:22Speaker 1: central role in the story at the beginning, we actually
- 31:26Speaker 1: don't know if the robbery ever occurred or if it
- 31:28Speaker 1: was simply a fabrication. Thank you so much for watching.
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