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Luc Besson's Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Largener Drunk Glider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel cast In and with me is always is
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  Speaker 1: like super incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Strickland, I'm back in the New York Groove.
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  Speaker 1: Are you in New York? It looks like your regular office.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan, No, I'm not. No, I'm just in the New
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  Speaker 2: York Groove. I'm not in New York. I'm just in
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  Speaker 2: the New York Groove. Me and Ace Freeley, we are
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  Speaker 2: in the New York Group.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I did that is because I was actually
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  Speaker 2: listening to this. I forget how much I like certain
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  Speaker 2: songs until they surface into a trailer, and then I
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  Speaker 2: hear it in the trailer and I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: that is a great song. And I haven't listened to
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  Speaker 2: it forever. And I'm not a huge Ace Freely fan.
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  Speaker 2: For those who don't know who's member of Kiss, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't a big I didn't follow his solo career
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  Speaker 2: or anything, but I do like back in the New
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  Speaker 2: York Groove. It's got It's got like an old school
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  Speaker 2: rock and roll guitar riff to it, like you think
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  Speaker 2: of those ones that go Doom to Doom to Doom
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  Speaker 2: to Doom Doom, something like that. It's similar to that, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's got like that kind of rhythm to it. And
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  Speaker 2: it's featured in a trailer for Dexter Resurrection, which we
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  Speaker 2: will talk about briefly later on in the show. And
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  Speaker 2: that just means it's now living rent free on replay
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  Speaker 2: in my head.
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  Speaker 1: I uh that it did not. It did not. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame sleep deprivation that none of the songs
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  Speaker 1: really stuck in my head.
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  Speaker 2: That's true for those of y'all at home who are wondering,
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  Speaker 2: why why so sleepy Aeriel? She had to drive halfway
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  Speaker 2: up the Eastern Seaboard because she had go and be
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  Speaker 2: famous for a living and then have to drive back down.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I appreciate you being my hype man and
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  Speaker 1: exaggerating greatly. I first of all, I chose to drive
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  Speaker 1: halfway up the Eastern seaboard. Abbington, Virginia, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: has some very very cute parts to it. Plus it's
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  Speaker 1: got Pal's Quick Service, which is about the only place
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  Speaker 1: you can get a fast food chipped ham sandwich, so
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  Speaker 1: delightful and famous is a very strong word. I got
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of a really cool project with
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  Speaker 1: some really sweet, nice people. It was a very positive,
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  Speaker 1: a very positive experience. And if when the project comes
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  Speaker 1: out people can watch it, I'll let all our listeners know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I understand, I understand. Someone you know
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  Speaker 2: also got to be a part of that project.
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  Speaker 1: I was just about to get there, yeah, right before
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  Speaker 1: I was about the night before I was going to
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  Speaker 1: drive up to do it, I got a call from
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  Speaker 1: production saying, hey, can your reader be be a part
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  Speaker 1: of it? To play the part that he read? And
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  Speaker 1: my reader was Jonathan, because Jonathan is awesome and volunteers
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  Speaker 1: so much of his time to help me with auditions,
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  Speaker 1: and so Jonathan got to be a part of it too.
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  Speaker 1: Although virtually so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was because literally it was a character who's
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  Speaker 2: talking to Ariel's character over the phone. So I literally
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  Speaker 2: phoned in my performance, which is about all I'm capable
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  Speaker 2: of doing. So it's fine, get great. I do want
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  Speaker 2: to say, though you are very kind to say that
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  Speaker 2: I take a lot of time to help. I just
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  Speaker 2: want to say I generally believe that my friend's success
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  Speaker 2: is something that is worthwhile in the world, and I
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  Speaker 2: want to see it happen. And if I can help
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  Speaker 2: contribute to that in any small way, I definitely want
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  Speaker 2: to because my own success is not something that just
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  Speaker 2: comes solely from my own effort. Right. I recognize that
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  Speaker 2: I got to where I am because of countless people
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  Speaker 2: either mentoring me or giving me support or you know,
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  Speaker 2: promoting me in some way, and I always want to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that I pay that forward too, because that's
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  Speaker 2: the world I want to live in. So if nothing
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  Speaker 2: else from this episode take home, the thought of lifting
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  Speaker 2: up your friends is great and should If you can
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  Speaker 2: do it, then certainly do it. Obviously, there are going
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  Speaker 2: to be times in your life where that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be a possibility. That does not make you a
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  Speaker 2: bad person. It just means that that maybe that's the
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  Speaker 2: time where it's for your friends to lift you up.
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  Speaker 2: And that's okay, yep.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean this is why, you know, at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: I always say that Jonathan is awesome or incredible because
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  Speaker 1: I live by a similar a similar creed. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've always got your back, but it is still a
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  Speaker 1: choice like you don't have.
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  Speaker 2: To do it. Sure, yeah, I don't. Well, part of
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  Speaker 2: me is like I can't imagine a world where I
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  Speaker 2: say no because I love my friends very dearly and
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  Speaker 2: I want to see them succeed. But also on a
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  Speaker 2: if you're going from like the more self centered way,
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  Speaker 2: I think I would feel incredibly guilty if I said no.
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  Speaker 2: So like it's I don't want to make it seem
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  Speaker 2: like I'm purely altruistic, right, because that's everyone's complicated. And
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  Speaker 2: I know you're not my therapist, but I just want
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  Speaker 2: to say that I am aware of the different levels.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've already had to act as my
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  Speaker 1: therapist this week because I had to cancel my therapy
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  Speaker 1: session to go do the gig.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was just for y'all at home. It
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  Speaker 2: was just it was just normal like anxiety stuff. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing bad, yep.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I don't mind. I mean, I am
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  Speaker 1: not qualified to act as your therapist, but I'm happy
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  Speaker 1: to listen.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, which I'm always thankful for. But that leads
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  Speaker 2: me to something that's completely unrelated, but leads me there
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  Speaker 2: because it's on my notes. Hah, don't And if I
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  Speaker 2: don't do it, my brain will will revolt against me,
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  Speaker 2: which is I need to ask you a question.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: This week's question is one that I feel like I've
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  Speaker 2: probably asked before in like a much older episode of
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  Speaker 2: LLENC but answers can change. And the question is what
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  Speaker 2: geeky world would you like to experience as a theme park?
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  Speaker 2: And this obviously probably obviously has been inspired largely by
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  Speaker 2: Epic Universe recently opening down in Orlando, Florida. I'll be
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  Speaker 2: going to check that out in early September.
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  Speaker 1: I am so envious, Jonathan, so freaking envious. So first
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  Speaker 1: of all, this is a great question, but I am
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  Speaker 1: so perturbed about it because I recently watched it and said,
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  Speaker 1: the movie is okay, but this would make a fantastic
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  Speaker 1: theme park and I want to ride this ride. And
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  Speaker 1: for the life of me, I can't remember what it was.
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  Speaker 1: You know how it is like what someone's like, what's
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  Speaker 1: their name? And as soon as he ask, it goes
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  Speaker 1: out of your brain.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're you're speaking my daily existence.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's where I'm at. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give like a a really cheap answer, and then when
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  Speaker 1: the answer comes back to me, I will post it
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  Speaker 1: in discorder on social or somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps she'll randomly shout out forty five minutes into this episode.
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  Speaker 1: That could that. You know, it's a fun adventure, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to say right now that Dark Universe
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  Speaker 1: and Epic Universe is probably that place, because.
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  Speaker 2: So you have one that actually exists, but you you're
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  Speaker 2: just looking forward to the opportunity to go and visit it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you know, I would I would say
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  Speaker 1: that I would have. I would have been like, this
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  Speaker 1: would make a great theme park, and then they made it.
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  Speaker 1: But like I said, that's a cheap answer because I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember my real answer. It's hard because there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things, like, you know, MGM Studios, Back
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  Speaker 1: when Hollywood Studios was still MGM Studios, they used to
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  Speaker 1: have a Honey I shrunk the Kid's Playground, and I
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  Speaker 1: think if they did, it's not there anymore. But I
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  Speaker 1: think if they did something similar but with like the
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  Speaker 1: world of Hook, not Peter Pan, And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they can't because I don't know if Disney Owen's
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  Speaker 1: Hook at this point, that would be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're talking about the Robin Williams, Dustin Hawk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, movie, Yeah, banger rang Rufio, Oh that jazz. You're
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  Speaker 1: just a meat old man who needs a mommy.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, I've just had an apostrophe. I think you
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  Speaker 2: mean an epiphany.
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  Speaker 1: I love First of all, I love that movie because
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  Speaker 1: everybody knows I'm a I'm a huge Peter Pan fan.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought Hook was delightfully fun. But I do
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  Speaker 1: think like that would be just a fun little world
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  Speaker 1: to step into.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. I think that would be like that version of
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  Speaker 2: Neverland would be pretty cool. Like, I am not a
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  Speaker 2: big fan of the film Hook. I remember seeing it
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  Speaker 2: in the theater when it came out. I'm not a
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  Speaker 2: huge fan of that movie, but there are moments of
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  Speaker 2: that movie that are among some of my favorite film
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  Speaker 2: moments of all time. It's just that as a whole,
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the film, but I like moments in
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  Speaker 2: the film a lot, like the introduction of Hook. I
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  Speaker 2: think is one of the greatest villain introductions in film,
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  Speaker 2: of everyone channing his name and sme, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of being smarmy up to him, and Hook being totally
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  Speaker 2: dismissive of his crew. I'm like, this is this is
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  Speaker 2: like if you love to play bad guys, this is
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  Speaker 2: the scene you want to do. But for myself. Because
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  Speaker 2: I wrote down my thoughts of what, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of geeky world I would like to experience as a
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  Speaker 2: theme park, I wanted to be fairly specific, so I
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  Speaker 2: put Dungeons and Dragons, but specifically dragon Lance. I think
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  Speaker 2: a dragon Lance theme park where like some rides be
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  Speaker 2: things like writing on the back of a dragon for example,
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  Speaker 2: that stuff could be really cool. Out of all the
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  Speaker 2: Dungeons and Dragons settings, dragon Lance, I think is the
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  Speaker 2: one that would be the most fun to immerse yourself in.
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  Speaker 2: It's not my favorite D and D setting, but it
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  Speaker 2: is the one that I think I would want to
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  Speaker 2: visit the most. Or maybe gray Hawk, and specifically the
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  Speaker 2: more cartoonish absurd elements of grey Hawk, because some of
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that was written for gray Hawk absolutely is
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  Speaker 2: cartoony and silly, and that appeals to me. Some of
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  Speaker 2: the Greyhawk adventures are very grim and dark, but Forgotten
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  Speaker 2: Realms was far more grounded in the sense of drama.
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  Speaker 2: Greyhawk was a lot weirder so, but Dragon Lances is
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  Speaker 2: my answer.
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  Speaker 1: If I were to pick a D and D world,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it kind of goes back to dark universe.
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  Speaker 1: I would pick raven loft.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so you're going back to the the the
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  Speaker 2: vampire based D and D world.
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  Speaker 1: Vampire Werewolf, Yeah, all of that. It wasn't Argyle that
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  Speaker 1: I thought would make it good. It wasn't our Gyle,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't Bullet Train anyhow. But yeah, no, because again,
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  Speaker 1: you can play raven Lofton it can be incredibly dark,
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  Speaker 1: or you can play raven Lofton it can be fun
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  Speaker 1: adventure fairy tale, which you know fairy tales are also
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  Speaker 1: kind of dark. But my experience with raven Lofton it
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  Speaker 1: was just my I guess my DM was that it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now that we have gotten through the answers to
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  Speaker 2: the question, let's talk about some of the stuff we've
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  Speaker 2: watched since the last time we recorded. So not Ariel. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you spend a lot of time on the road, so
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  Speaker 2: you weren't able to I hope you weren't watching things
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  Speaker 2: while driving on the way to and from Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: I did listen to I'm listening to the final Xandria campaign.
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  Speaker 1: I guess season three of Critical Role when I drive,
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  Speaker 1: But as much as I love it, especially when they
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  Speaker 1: get into like the battle episodes, it's not always great content,
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  Speaker 1: so I actually ended up switching between that. I listened
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  Speaker 1: to a little bit of saw Bones on my.
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  Speaker 2: Way up to Rainia tour of Misguided Medicine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured that's always fun. It's just well, it's
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  Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the time it's fun, and when
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  Speaker 1: it's not fun, it's very informative.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important, but it's also often either infuriating or
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  Speaker 2: depressing or both.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's a lot that's just funny when
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  Speaker 1: they talk about like plenty of the Elder and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. But if they go into a serious subject
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  Speaker 1: like miss mistreatment or oversights in medicine to more vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: groups and or like uh or like lobotomies, that those
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  Speaker 1: are the less fun episodes, but they're still very good.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I listened to. I did watch some
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  Speaker 1: things this week. I'm in season three of Ted Lasso,
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't realize that those were characters that started
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  Speaker 1: on like ESPN promos.
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  Speaker 2: Well Lasso in particular, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Lasso and his his second coach Beard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like the television show version much better. I'm still
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  Speaker 1: watching murder Bot, which is still absolutely delightful. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: read the books, so I don't know when it veers
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  Speaker 1: from the the source material. But my understanding, at least
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  Speaker 1: what I've heard in a little bit of what I've read,
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  Speaker 1: is that Martha Wells is into it. I think I
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  Speaker 1: said that last week. But I'm enjoying it. It's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun. It does have some dark stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: it also balances it really well with comedy. So I
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  Speaker 1: just I love the I love the tone. I watched
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  Speaker 1: the latest Game Changer, which is really really fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you like, if you like reality shows like
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  Speaker 2: Survivor that kind of or Traders, then yeah, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna enjoy that one.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I started. We just started Love Death and Robots
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  Speaker 1: Volume one for our group watch. I know you all
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  Speaker 1: are thinking, why aren't you still watching That'll start Galactica
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  Speaker 1: that goes on for years, and if you're watching it
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  Speaker 1: once a week, you're gonna watch it for seven years. Well,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: the problem is it went off of Amazon Prime and
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: we didn't want to go find it again. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: like or at least that that's what they told me.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't look into it because I had missed several
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  Speaker 1: of the group watches because like, I've seen that Star
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  Speaker 1: Galactica and I'm really busy at this point in time.
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  Speaker 1: So Love Death and Robots, you know, it's it's I
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  Speaker 1: had already watched through all but two episodes of Secret Level,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: which is the same creators, very similar kind of concept,
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  Speaker 1: except for Secret Level is to do with video video games,
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: and Love Death and Robot is general sci fi. And
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I know, when we talked about the trailer for Volume
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  Speaker 1: four coming out, I was surprised that Rhys Darby was
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  Speaker 1: just a person in it, because I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: all animation. Well, even Volume one apparently has just people
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  Speaker 1: in it. There's an episode called ice Age with Tofer
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  Speaker 1: Grace and Mary Elizabeth Winstead just as people with a
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: like a microcosm universe in their freezer. I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: it's cute. It is very adult. It's very adult, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to the point where I personally it could be like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I could see a little less cgi nudity, but whatever,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's just me, I know, I know, but it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is good and I enjoyed it. So there's that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: And I watched like the first ten minutes of cloud
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  Speaker 1: word Ho which is the new Dimension twenty actual play.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a new world within Roll twenty. I believe
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: they had some awesome people help build it. And it's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: steampunk and like the they do a lot of, like
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: when Brennan is talking, putting the CPA tone over him,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: and like the Crackley radio filter, and it's the way
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  Speaker 1: they started is really surprising and delightful. And I don't
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: want to spoil it for anybody, but if you're into
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  Speaker 1: actual plays, check it out. It's a cool one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well for me, I started so on YouTube, the
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  Speaker 2: little shorts. Sometimes I get caught up in that doom
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  Speaker 2: scrolling thing where you just start watching shorts and start
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  Speaker 2: and I usually I am able to pull myself out
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  Speaker 2: after three or four videos because I realize what I'm
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: doing and I realize it's not good for my own
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: mental health. But one of the things that tends to
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: surface is Rick and Morty because season eight began like
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: late last month, and it just reminded me, Oh, I
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: kind of dropped off Rick and Morty. I watched up
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: through season six, like I watched all of season six,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: but I had not watched season seven. Apart from the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: first episode, which confused me because when I started, I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: was like, wait, no, I know I've seen this one,
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  Speaker 2: But then the next one, I was like, wait, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I've seen this one. And so I'm watching
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: season seven occasionally. I'm not like binging it or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I just I think I've only watched two or three
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  Speaker 2: episodes into season seven. But you know, just because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: occasionally I enjoy that. I do find the nihilism to
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  Speaker 2: be a bit much for my tastes. Like I get
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: that's the whole thing for Rick, but like he's a
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: character who almost is is almost never proven to be wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and for a character to almost never be proven wrong
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  Speaker 2: and be such a nihilist is really depressing. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: I can only deal with that for so long because
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: as pessimistic as I can get, I think at heart
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  Speaker 2: I'm still an optimist. I'm just not a naive optimist.
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So watching watching something like this can get a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: little rough at times. I also watched Red Sun s
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: o N. That's an animated Superman feature. It came out
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, so it's several years old, but I
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: had not watched it. I was I had heard of
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the comics that this was based off of. It's an
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: else world's story in the DC universe, so obviously, like
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it's like what if and the premise is what if
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Clark Kent wasn't Clark? What if as a child cal
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: l landed in uh remote Russia as opposed to the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: United States.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I think I've watched this one too. It's familiar.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: It's okay, Uh, I wasn't. Jason Isaacs is a voice
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: in it. Didric Baker Baier is as well, a though
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Didrich Baiterer like he's in the past, he's his voice
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: characters like Batman, but in this one he does Lex
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Luthor Amy Acker does a voice in it, So, uh,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it was okay, Like, I don't know, I have a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: feeling I would also find the comic books to just
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: be okay, like not bad, but maybe a little simplistic.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a comic book, so I guess I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: can't get too head up about this, but a little
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: too simplistic, and how it treats the Soviet Union, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: like you're like, okay, this is way more complicated than
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: a comic book could really handle. But then you ask, well,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: why bother doing it? Then you know, but it was okay.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And then I also watched both part one and part
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: two of the documentary Pee Wee as himself Paul Rubins
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: giving interviews obviously before he passed away, about his work
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and his life, and I learned so much that I
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: did not know, Like I was a fan of Pewee Herman.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: But it was pretty pretty He was a pretty private person.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Right, He was very private, which and he talks about
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it in the documentary. He says like that that both
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: protected him and ultimately was part of what made him
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like not just a target, but it like came back
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: to bite him in the butt. It's very well done.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: It's an incredibly well done documentary. I will say Paul
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Rubins is not an easy person to interview. He frequently
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: makes it hard to interview him, and you can tell
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: he's doing it, or at least my assumption is he's
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: doing it partly because he just prickles at the idea
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: of not being the one in control with final say
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: over how this is all going to be, but also
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: partly because he has a mischievous streak a mile wide,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: and so he's just kind of devilishly poking at the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: director and questioning the director's you know, loyalties and capabilities.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: And so I'm watching this and I'm like, man, this
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: is like Andy Kaufman style performance art where you can't
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: be sure when the act stops. And I have the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: feeling that that's exactly the way Paul Rubins would want
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that to be.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So I guess that's a way for him to control
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the narrative.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Even he actually says exactly that. He says exactly that
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: in the documentary. There's a whole bit in the second
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: half where and it's not even when he's sitting down
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to be interviewed. It was a conversation he had with
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the director over the phone, but they recorded the conversation,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and it was essentially the director saying, I don't even
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: know if you want me to do this movie, Like
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm supposed to do this movie
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: if you're going to be like this, Like it was
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: a really real conversation. But I thought it was fascinating.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: You get to see lots of footage of people who
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: were incredibly important in the LA comedy scene, especially underground comedy,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: so like Cassandra Peterson, better known as Elvira has some
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: bits in there. Natasha Leone has a bit because she
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: starred as a child in an episode of Pewee's Playhouse.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It's it's just it's it's if you have any interest
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: at all in Pee Herman, you should check it out.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: That's on Max. It is well worth your time. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and each episode is like an hour and forty minutes long.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: These are long parts.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But if you're a bleeding heart like Jonathan and I,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: make sure you buy stocking Kleenex first.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, there were there were some moments that
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: did make me emotional, and largely that's because again, like
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I was a fan as a kid. I saw his
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: HBO special, which was he had created a stage show,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a pee Wee Herman stage show that he did with
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: the Groundlings in LA for a few years, and he
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: kind of developed it and evolved it, and this is
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: where he met people like Phil Hartman, who ended up
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: being Captain Carl in the stage show. And by the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: time they filmed it for HBO, he had really refined
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: this stage show. I had seen the stage show as
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a kid from the HBO special, and so I was
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: a fan of Pewe Herman. Before he had a feature film,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: before he had the children's show. And you know, it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: kind of funny because I became a fan of pe
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Wee Herman when he was doing his stuff that was
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: meant for an adult audience, not a child audience.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I remember some pe Wee Herman stuff that was I'm like,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: this definitely isn't kid focused.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was presented in the format as if
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: it were a children's show, but it was the children's show.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Eventually it did become on but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the original original act. Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how I saw his
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: original act, but I did.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Well. Probably you probably saw the HBO special. I mean
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that was the one that, like it was on forever,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and in fact, we might be watching it again in
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, Ah okay, because I might want
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: to have that as one of the things we watch
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: while we're celebrating my birthday.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Sure, thang, that sounds delightful to me. Well, thank you
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: for recommending it. Is definitely that one is definitely on
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: my list. But I again, I have to be in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the right mood, because I have to be in the
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: right mood to know that I'm going to get sad.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's also there's parts that are kind
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of infuriating too, and like he was a complicated person.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It's it's not all good, Like he he did some
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: stuff that was not good. Yeah, although, like even the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: stuff that he was most famously kind of in trouble
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: for in trouble for, like you could argue, well, that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't really like, that's not the stuff I would say
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: was the bad stuff, because when you hear the full story,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, I understand that. Like the bad stuff
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to me was that he was so driven and ambitious
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that that overpowered other behaviors like being respectful or nice.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are there are certain documentaries like the one
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: on mister Rogers where you're like, Okay, this was genuinely
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: a good person trying to do good. Right, not infallible,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: but a genuine good person trying to do good. I'm
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we're not saying that Paul Rubins was that by any
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: stretch of the imagine.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: No, but he was. He was incredibly ambitious, and that
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: was both a pause and sometimes the negative thing about
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: his personality. So complicated dude, But yeah, that documentary. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: thought it was incredibly well done. I will say the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: last half hour of the second episode there's much less
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: footage of Paul Rubins himself talking about the events, and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it explains why as it gets closer to the end,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: all right, well, we've got a ton of other stuff
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: to talk about, and we're almost half an hour into
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: this episode already.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Who Well, that's okay because the first ton of it
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: is thirty seconds or less.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: That's correct, and I believe I go first. Yes, okay,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: here we go. We'll be talking about the trailer for
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Guillermo del Toros Frankenstein film a little bit later, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: for now, the news is that some fans are upset
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: that the movie is headed for a streaming only release.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: The fans argue that this movie, which looks to be
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: cinematic as I'll get out, belongs on the big screen.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Will reaction prompt Netflix to push for a limited theatrical release.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: We sure hope, so we do. I doubt it. I'll
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: talk about that later, but some things are getting a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: new life in the theatrical release world. Shin Godzilla, Yeah
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I get that right, Yeah, Shin Godzilla, not Godzilla. Shan
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: is coming to US theaters in August.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: It's a Godzilla film that is done by directors of
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Bullet Train Explosion and Neon Genesis Evan Evangelian, and it
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: starts as kind of as like a dark comedy.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Actually, I am super interested in this. This is one
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that I've wanted to see and I was not able
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to see. So yes, August fourteenth, four K remaster if
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you want to see it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Cool. Sidney Sweeney was set the star in a Gonzo
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: adaptation of Egar ellen Poe's The Mask of the Red Death,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: but she had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Now Mikey Madison has taken her or places because she
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: apparently is playing Twins. Madison previously won an Oscar for
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: her performance in the film Anaura. According to The Hollywood Reporter,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: this adaptation from a twenty four and picture start is
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: gonna be It's gonna be a lot, y'all.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Woof uh a lot in a different way. Gerard Johnstone
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Johnstone not Johnston, who is the creator or director behind
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Meghan and Megan two point oh, is now working on
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a Monster High film for Mattel. I guess Mattel was
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: like oooh, Barbie did, well, let's do Monster High. You
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: would think that I would love this because I like
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: monster tropes, but I'm not a fan of the Monster
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: High dolls.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So maybe it'll be Mike Flanagan is one of the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: more interesting horror directors out there, having helm projects like
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: The Haunting of hillhal Said Doctor Sleep. His next Stephen
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: King based project is a TV series of Carrie story
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: about teenage girl with a terrifying telepathic ability. Summer Howell
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: has been trapped tapped, not trapped, to star as the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: titular terror. The series will air on Amazon Prime Video.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: However, this means that Mike Flanagan has spread himself a
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: little too thin, so his remake of the Exorcist is
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: no longer on the twenty twenty six Universal Pictures slate.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that it's not coming out, and he's
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: just saying, hey, we are not going to make the mark. I.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: On the one hand, I'm like, great, just like video games,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: make sure you're putting out a good product that will
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: make it successful. However, I'm also like, do we need
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: another carry to retelling?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, earlier this year we talked about how the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: next film in the Saw franchise became derailed after producers
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: had a major hissy fit with each other. Now the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Hollywood Reporter says that Blumhouse may soon acquire the franchise.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: This isn't the first time rumors have popped up about this,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: but apparently this time they might actually mean it. No
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: word on what form, if any, the new entries would
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: take if this deal does go through.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: It diving deeper into the rumor mill, someone leaked news.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Now this might be completely false that Marvel wants to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: finish up their King storyline even though they are pivoting
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to Doctor Doom, and by doing so, they might recast
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: King with They might recast Johnthan Majors with Tremmel Tillman,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: who is milcheck in severance. I One, I know Johnathan
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Major's has gone through therapy, and I hope he is
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: doing better. Two. I freaking love Tremmel Tillman, and I
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: think he would be an astounding King.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: He is so good in severance. So he's quiet but
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: intimidating in ways that are just so effective.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the range to play a multiverse type
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: character like that. He's got He's really good at presenting.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I love the casting that Marvel does most of the time.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Majors in season one of Loki, I thought did
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: a great job. He was very over dramatic, but it
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: really fit. In season two of Loki, it hurt me
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to watch him because he just he put in so
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: many pregnant pauses that it felt almost unwatchable to me.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like I still haven't seen it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like Tremuel. I mean, it was fun, It
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: was definitely fun. I feel like Tremel. Tillman also has
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a very dramatic quality that he can tap into, but
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a little more balanced there as well.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: So well, here's my last story. Do y'all remember that bit?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: And back to the future. Marty McFly jumps up on
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that stage, picks up a guitar, and leads the band
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: in a rendition of Johnny B. Good Well. Gibson. Gibson
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the company that it was behind the guitar, the McFly blade.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It's hoping to track down that specific instrument. Apparently, the
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Gibson Cherry red Es three forty five has been missing
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: for years. The search for the guitar will be the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: center of an upcoming documentary titled Lost to the Future.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. I was watching, we're out of thirty seconds
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: or less. I can say this. I know I failed.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: This week, I was watching an interview with Brett Goldstein,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: who is on Ted Lasowen is one of the creators
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of Shrinking. Apparently Michael J. Fox is going to be
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: on the new season of Shrinking, and that that makes
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: me want to watch. I'm like, yes, yes, Michael J. Fox,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: kick all the butt.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that started thirty seconds or least, like
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I said, Like we said earlier, we're gonna touch back
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: on at least the Frankenstein stuff in a little bit.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Before we do that, we of course have the stuff
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that's not really a genre fit in the strictest sense
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that we wanted to touch on. First up is a
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: teaser or a trailer for a film called Trust. This
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: is a movie featuring Sophie Turner. She's playing an actress
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: who flees to a remote house after a scandal kind
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of throws her life into turmoil. But while she's there,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: she finds herself being stalked by mysterious strangers who are
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: possibly hired to quote unquote take care of her. Because
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: this guy who I based upon his reactions, it made
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: me think it was her dad, but maybe it's supposed
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to be her manager.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Same. I had the same exact back and forth on this.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's mad at her for taking off.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: It might be like a Britney Spears situation where manager
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: slash dad less unless the scandal was with this person
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and yeah, that's hard to anger, in which case I
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: really hope we're wrong.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously it looks really intense, like a real intense
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: thriller slash kind of horror movie comes out in August,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: but you know it's not. It's not a supernatural horror
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: movie or anything like that, so it doesn't really fit
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: our genre stuff.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It really creeped me out, though it hits on some
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: topics that are really scary to me.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was pretty effective trailer, and Sophie Turner
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: looks like she really put herself through it in this movie.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Next up, we have Dexter Resurrection. I mentioned that at
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the top of the show about back in the New
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: York Groove because that's the song that plays. So spoilers
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: for Dexter. I guess if you care about the previous
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: seasons of Dexter. I stopped watching after like maybe the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: second season, so I knew about what happened, but only
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: through reading.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I stopped watching. I think in like halfway through the first.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it because I thought, is that Michael C.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Hall is that the actor. His portrayal of Dexter was great,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and I liked all the supporting characters as well. Anyway,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Dexter Resurrection, as the name implies, Dexter's not dead after all.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: He wakes up, but he's lured away from Miami to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: go to New York, partly to try and avoid questions
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: that he faces from his old colleague Angel. One of
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the Angels a police officer.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Not David booranaz no no.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: No, the different character, still male, but different character. But
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Angel wants to confront Dexter about being the Bay Harbor Butcher.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So Dexter goes to New York partly because he's kind
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: of lured there by a billionaire who's played by Peter Dinklice,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: and specifically through this billionaire's assistant who's played by Uma Thurman.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: And you might be saying, Wow, this series has got
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: some serious star power behind it. I'm not even Journey yet.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, Neil Patrick Harris is in it. Kristin
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Ritter is in it. David dust malt Malchian is in it. Yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: so it turns out Peter Dinglish's character is essentially collecting
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: serial killers and uh, and so these other actors are
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: playing beside Zuma Thurman. These other actors are playing other
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: serial killers. One thing I'm sad about is that is
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: that dust Malchian's character is called the Gemini Killer. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I got really excited because I thought that maybe they
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: were going to somehow reference The Exorcist Part three because
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: that's also got a character called the Gemini Killer in it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But they do not appear to be at all connected.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Oh sadness. It really feels to me like, okay, so
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you know how you've got like knives out where everybody's
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who the killer is. This feels
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: like the polaroid negative.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Of this.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Who's not kill it's not the killer.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: The trailer like it gave me such cheesy, over the
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: top vibes that I feel like it's going to be
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the most absurd incarnation of Dexter so far.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not against that though, because part of the well,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: part of the reason I stopped watching Dexter is because
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: it was at the beginning of like streaming media when
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: they did had where they were able to stop worrying
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: about commercial breaks, and so a full hour was a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: full hour and I was new to that, and that
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: felt too long for such a dark show. And then
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it got a little too dark for me. I just
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it just rubbed me the wrong way.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: But if it's Goofy, I'm much more into that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this, I don't know how. I don't know how
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: overtly goofy it is. But like the premise itself is wild, right,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: like some billionaire who's just like I want to own
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: a bunch of serial killers, Like what are you even
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: talking about? This is what I do, a little crazy,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: like Neil Patrick Harris's character is apparently like the tattoo
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Collector is his serial killer name? Yeah, And like Kristin
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Ritter is something like Lady Death or something like that
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: or I can't remember it. But yeah, it's just wild,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and I don't know. I worry about it being something
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: like oh uh, smoking aces or or in another sense
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of bullet Train, where it's one of those where it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: a physical location where a bunch of people with extraordinary
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: skills are all gathered in the same place and then
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: it just becomes like a free for all or something.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but we'll see. Yeah. This is also
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: where the back of the New York Groove played, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: it's the reason why it's stuck in my head.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The the next thing that almost fits, like it
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: almost fits because it's musical theater is we're getting a
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Kiss of the Spider Woman. And I thought I knew
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: at least one song from Kiss of a Spider Woman,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe I thought Lucky a Lady
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Tonight or something.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Like Guysendall's but okay, yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: No, No, it's Guys and Dolls, which I've never seen
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the full of.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Ye you should. I think you would like that musical.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I've auditioned for it. I just I haven't watched it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Kiss of a Spider Woman apparently, I swear I know
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a song from it, but when I looked at the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: song list, I know none of them. Anyhow, This movie
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: stars Jennifer Lopez and Diego Luna. It looks cinematically beautiful.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So some background, because this story has a long history.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy six, an Argentine author named Manuel Puig
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: publishes a novel Kiss of the Spider Woman, and the
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: story is about these two cell nates in a prison,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: one of whom is a homosexual, the other of whom
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: is a imprisoned revolutionary right. And the gay man is
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: trying to relate to the revolutionary by talking about all
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: these different movies that were important to the gay man.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: And there's like six movies or something like that in
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the novel. This later, in nineteen eighty three, got adapted
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: by the author himself into a stage play. Things were
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: simplified a bit. It went, i think from six films
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: down to one, but same basic idea. The stage play
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: was then kind of adapted into a film with Ral
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Julia and William Hurt. Still not a musical at this point.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Then it got turned into a musical in nineteen ninety three.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Candor and Ebb, who are the same composers behind things
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: like Cabaret and Chicago, did the music. OK, So if
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you hear anything from Kiss the Spider Woman, it might
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: sound familiar if you're also familiar with Kender and Ebb's work.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And then the book was written by Terrence McNally, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: now we've got this film adaptation of the musical adaptation
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of this nineteen seventy six Argentine teen novel, there's Your
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: History Lesson.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know the musical like, I'm not a
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: musical theater movie completionist. I don't know if I'll watch it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I feel like you should.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: It's a story that ultimately is more about the two
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: men in prison, right, but like all the musical stuff, like,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that's the fantastical method by which they are getting to
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: know one another. It's a I'll tell you this like.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's a rough story, which the trailer doesn't necessarily portray,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: so that is a good warning.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Next up, we've got a teaser for another adaptation of
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a book. This one is for The Man in My Basement.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: It's not a teaser for the Man in My Basement.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I don't have a basement. It's a teaser for a
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: film titled The Man in.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: My Basement Interesting, which is not a sequel to Where
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the Sidewalk Ends.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: That's right, a reel. So the basic story, the basic
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: story of the plot of the novel is that there's
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: a man, a black man that's important for the story,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: who lives in a home that's been owned by his
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: family for multiple generations. But he himself isn't ambitious, he
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't have he is not really employed. He's kind of directionless.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: And then this stranger, a white man, shows up and
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: offers an annoy us amount of money if he's able
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to rent the basement of this man's house, like one
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a day for sixty five days. So Corey
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Hawkins plays the owner of the home and Willem Dafoe
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: plays the stranger. And it turns out that the stranger's
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: motivations are almost inscrutable, but he's clearly wanting to atone
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: for something or be punished for something. And that's about
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: all I want to say about what the plot is.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: This is a very divisive novel. I haven't seen the
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: film obviously, but I know about the novel. It's a
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: devisive novel. Came out in two thousand and four. It's
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: by Walter Mosley. It's one that people either really enjoy
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: or they really didn't like at all.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I watched this teaser and I was like, this just
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: feels like the amount of money this man is getting
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: paid is not enough.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Well, it's also yeah, it's weird because knowing the novel,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, I'm wondering how much of this stuff
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be like maybe a flashback or like
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: a dream sequence or just in an imagination as opposed
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: to being something that's actually happening.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: But I'm very unfamiliar with the story.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: So it comes out to theaters and Hulu, and it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: coming out quote unquote soon, that's what the trailer says.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: And then we also got a trailer for Dora and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the Search for Soul Dorado as in Dora the Explorer,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and this is a live action Dora the Explorer film.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like there's a new Dora the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Explorer show.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: But it.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I guess there have been a few iterations. I didn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: realize that it was still a current thing. This movie
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: definitely does not feel like like it is made for
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the adults who grew up with Dora the Explorer. It's
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: got a very spy kids sort of shark boy love
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: a girl sort of a feel to it. Mm hmm.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: That level of production value and entertainment. And it's it's
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: an age appropriate cast, but it is not an animated
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: animal character appropriate cast. Boots and Swiper both look like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: real animals, and that just doesn't work.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: For me. Yeah. Also, I agree with you, like this
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like for example, I think SPI Kids is
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a great comparison. I don't think it feels more like
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: the Scooby Doo movies, which you know, had elements to
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: those movies that clearly were trying to appeal to adult
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: fans who remembered the cartoons, because you watch those films
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: and you're like, there's a lot of suggestive, not like dirty,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: but suggestive elements to it where they're playing around with
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and so if you're old enough
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: to be aware of it, you're like, oh, I get it,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: but you know, it's not so overt as to become
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: like a parody or a satire.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, So it looks like there's a Dora say O
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: La to Adventure show that started in twenty twenty four
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: on Paramount Plus. But also I think the Dora show
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: is for very young kids.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I might be wrong there this I said. It kind
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: of looks like like Indiana Jones for little kids. Yep.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it might be really cute, it might
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: be fun. Yeah, I have to even care who Dora
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: is to enjoy it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: It's not something that's for me. But I you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: who knows, Like if I if I had seen this
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: when I was young, I might have been like, oh,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: this is totally my jam.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, if it were for you nowadays, I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: might be a little worried.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Good, Maybe that high blood pressure thing scrambled a
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: lot more of my brains than I thought. Okay, well,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: let's talk about stuff that actually is on our lineup,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: And first up is that Guermo del Toro passion project
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: of bringing Frankenstein to the screen once again. This is
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: a film that stars Oscar Isaac and the note I
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: put here was that the cinematography and the set design
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and costuming, like all the all the elements that contribute
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to the look of the film seem phenomenal.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, they really do this. It looks good. I mean
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I am. I am a fan of some of Geramo
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: del Toro's more fantastical stuff anyhow, Shape of Water and
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Pans Labyrinth, which are both hard to watch but very good.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm a fan of Frankenstein. It's one of those
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: monster stories that I read the comic of in fourth
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: grade along with Dracula, which kind of sparked that enjoyment.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: And you know, then there's things like Young Frankenstein, so
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Frankenstein is just Frankenstein's Monster is one of those ipis
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that I really enjoy. It looks so good. It also
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: has me a goth and Goth and Christoph Waltz and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Jacob E Lordi in it. It's got such a good cast.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And it does look like to me at least, that
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: general del Toro is trying to be more faithful to
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the original novel as opposed to say, the classic Universal
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Pictures version of Frankenstein, which is still a great work.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not casting shade, it's just they took some big
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: departures from the source material and this looks like it's
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: trying to be a little closer honestly. Like I still
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: remember the Frankenstein movie that came out when I was
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: a teenager and remembering how disappointed I wasn't it, And
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I think this is going to be the opposite. I
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: think like this is like it, at least from a
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: technical level, like it could be a maybe not the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: definitive Frankenstein's cinematic version, but way up there. Although, as
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: we mentioned in Thirty Seconds or Less, is not currently
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: slated for theaters, it is meant to come out to
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Netflix in November.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean I understand that people want to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: see it in theaters, but knowing first of all, knowing
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: we've all read a little bit about how financial models
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: between streaming and movie theaters are vastly different and hard
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: to balance. You know, the Netflix is putting a movie
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: into theaters. It's Greta Gerwig's Narnia movie. So and that
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: took so much work. We talked about it in a
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: previous episode. Took so much work to figure out the
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: financial model for that, They're more than likely not going
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to do it for Frankenstein because I feel like the
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Narnia movie is kind of the proof of concept for
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: this to see if it even works.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's the best kind of publicity, honestly,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: because it shows that people are passionate about this project
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: that's coming up on Netflix. It's a good problem to.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Have, and I'm honestly excited that people want to see
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: something in the theaters.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this definitely looks like like I'm not
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you know, it takes a bit for me to go
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: out to the theater. At this point. I will do
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: it occasionally, like I've done a couple times this year,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: but you know, I'm not eager to do it most times.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: But this is another one of those where I feel like,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: if you saw it in the theater with the right audience,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: like people who are going to treat the material with
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the right kind of attitude and not like not like
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: a rowdy audience that's gonna, you know, be disruptive or whatever,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I think it would be great. Like I love being
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: in the audiences that are actually connecting with the material
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: and not just this is a place where I get to,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: you know, rip apart something that I don't really personally
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: find affecting. I'm like, well, don't go then, because everyone
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: here paid to see the movie and they don't didn't
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: pay to see you be a jackass.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly I went to see Thunderbolts in the theater
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: when I did because one I didn't want spoilers, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: two I was like, it will be exciting to go
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: with people who are excited about it about this movie.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And then it wasn't an empty theater, but it was
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: opening weekend, and it also wasn't a full theater. We
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: did go pretty late at night, so maybe.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: That well, we went pretty fairly early in the day,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: like maybe like maybe it was a three or four
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: pm screening, maybe as late as five, but it was
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: still considered matinee, so probably before five. We went and
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: saw it on the Sunday of opening weekend and it was,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe maybe a third to half full theater,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: not even half full, it had to be closer to
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: a third. But and I would glad that it wasn't
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: full of people being inappropriate or disruptive.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was nice Sinners. When I went to see
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Sinners in the theater, that was I thought it was
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: a completely sold out theater. It wasn't. Most of the
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: audience was really fantastic. There was a couple sitting next
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: to me who was very They were very into the movie.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: They were vocally into the movie. But since it was
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: in response to the movie, I didn't mind it as much.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: And there were a couple of kids, I think, who
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: were sneaking into the show because it was one of
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: those Spring Cinema and Tap, which is a nice little,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I think, independent theater. But it's a very nice theater.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Their seats are heated. You can get a heated seat there,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: heated recliner seat, but they're pre assigned, you select your seat,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and these boys would go in and sit down, and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: then people would come and be like, you're in our seats,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: and then they'd move to another row and other seats
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: that were empty. And they did this like four times,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and they always turned their phone on bright when they
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: did it. I really wanted to smack them.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's not cool. Those are the kind of
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: folks who Alamo Draft House would kick out and then
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: just say like, you're not welcome back here again. Yeah. So, anyway, Frankenstein,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I think it looks really well made. Oscar Isaac is
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal actor. Christoph Waltz I love too, So I
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: how weird that Christoph Waltz is in both Frankenstein and Dracula. Dracula, Dracula,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: there's a new Dracula movie coming out. I did not
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: know this was happening. Luke Bassan made this and Christoph
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Waltz is essentially playing Van Helsing in this one. However,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you made the same observation I did watching
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: this trailer, But I'm curious what are your thoughts about
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: the trailer for Dracula.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: First of all, I had to look up what else,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Luke Bassan has done, and I like some of his work.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I love the Fifth Element, I dislike some other of
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: his work. I also did not know this. I also
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: did not know this was happening. It it's it's it's
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: pulling off of the Gary.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Oldman one exactly. It is Francis Ford Coppola, the movie
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: that I refer to as Francis Ford Coppola's bram Stoker's Dracula.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I say this, like, honestly, bits of it
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit more grounded because Copola's Dracula was
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: super stylized. The costuming was amazing, but that was half
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: of the focus.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well yeah, Copla Coppola was making a love
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: letter to classic movie making editing tricks like edit like
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: in camera editing tricks, that kind of stuff. And like
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: the first half hour of bram Stoker's Dracula is so
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: jam packed with these tricks that for me it became distracting.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, but it was very artistic. This but this has
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the stylings of it, so someone like later on into
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: in the trailer, it does feel maybe a little bit
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: more grounded at points, but like the design behind Dracula
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and his wife and all of these things. Yeah, it feels, yeah,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the same.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: So there are elements that are in this trailer that
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: are in Francis Ford Coppola's version as well, and they
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: are not in the novel. So then you're like, Okay, well,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: clearly you're not taking this from the novel. You are
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: copying because like the hairstyle that Dracula has when he's
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: in this castle is similar. The fact that the fact
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: that you have that backstory of him as a soldier
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: and he is he is essentially condemning God for allowing
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: his wife to die, and he's rejecting God and that's
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: what damns him into becoming a vampire. That's all drawn
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: from Francis Copla as Dracula. So I'm like watching this
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, and by the way, if you look
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: at the comments in the YouTube section, a lot of
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: people are pointing that out too. They're all like, oh,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: it's Luke Bassan's Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: But wasn't I didn't watch it Luke Evans right or something?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And I feel like that movie also pulled from the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I'm a soldier who my wife died. I feel like
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: so many retellings of Dracula didn't read the novel but
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: rather watched the Copola movie.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just this one, I think more than most
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: wears it on the sleeve, right, like to the point
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: where you're like, why did you bother even making this?
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Because this movie already exists. It comes out July thirtieth,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: at least in France. I don't know if it's if
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: that's the same date for the United States, because the
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: trailer we have it was all in English, but all
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: the subtitles in French.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: French. It my tired brain took a second to parse
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: all of that. When I was watching it, I might,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I might see it if I'm bored. I've been, I've
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: seen it. I recently rewatched Coppola's Dracula because there are
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: bits of that I really like. I almost watched it
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: on a plane, and then I very much thought better
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of myself because I get really self conscious that people
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: might be looking at my screen like kids.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: And yeah, there's a there's.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Sorry, hold on, I'll beap it, okay, okay, I was
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: so sorry about my language.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're wondering why, just a second ago, the
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: audio went weird. It's because Ariel, in her exhausted state,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: allowed her potty mouth to take over. It's here's the
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: funny thing between the two of us. I'm the one
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: who swears way more.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Just that is, I don't know if that's true.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Well, when we're hanging out, I think I'm the one
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: who swears a lot more than you do. Fair Next up,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: we if something else is going to just make us
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: drop swear where it's left and right? Uh No, I'm
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: just kidding. We got a trailer for the second Wicked film,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Wicked for Good. What did you think of this trailer?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I thought it was beep it No, yeah, beep beep, beep, beep, beep,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: beep beep. I so, I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I've never watched the musical and I've never read the book,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and I know the two are rather different, and this
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: is following the musical. It made me feel more hopeful
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: than I feel like I should be for the second
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: act of this show. It also reminded me that, despite
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you saying otherwise, Jonathan, there are a couple bangers in
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the second act.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: No Good Deed and for Good. I don't think of
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: as bangers. They're not really They're not bad songs, but
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think of them as like like I guess
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: I for Good is one that mutual friends of ours
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: love to sing it karaoke because it's a it's a duet.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: No Good Deed is fine. The version that's in the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: trailer is quite good. Cynthia Rivo is doing an amazing job.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I just think like things like
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: dancing through life and popular and defying gravity like those
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: are the to me, like the quintessential big numbers of Wicked.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that there aren't also some decent songs
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: in the second half. I just don't think they're as strong.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I do think that the songs in the first half
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: are definitely like more upbeatn catchy, But I do think
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: like for Good when they start singing it in this trailer,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: it gave me chills just because it was so beautifully
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: presented or performed. Rather, I would say, which is the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: song that's got like the abercadabra, Like that's the.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: No that's no Good Deed. No Good Deed goes on punish. Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it looks, it looks pretty, it looks well acted.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: I will probably see it. I want to see how
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: they do with it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: It's a yeah, looks like there's a lot of bigger
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: action sequences in this one too, like stuff that they
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: obviously could not do in a stage show, which is
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: that's great. Like if you're gonna make a film version
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: of something, I think for musicals there are two reasons
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: to make a film version. Reason number one is to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: improve accessibility, because not everyone can make it to live theater.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe you don't live near a place that does live theater.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe live theater is prohibitively expensive for you to go see.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: So I like that. And reason too is you can
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: do something in film, or you could do many things
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: in film that would be impractical or impossible on stage.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: And in this case, like it's that spectacle that the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: stage show does really well, but it's limited, you're limited
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: by the Shakespeare talked about this and Henry the Fourth,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: but like or Henry the Fifth, I guess it was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: the beginning of Henry the Fifth. But the the preview
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: looked really impressive. I still haven't seen the first one,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: so maybe at some point I'll sit down and watch it.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I do like the bits with Dorothy I had to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: go back and reread a synopsis of the musical because
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: there's a moment in this trailer where I was like, wait,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: did that happen in the musical? And I had to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: go back and look and I was like, oh, I guess,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I guess it. I mean, it's certainly hinted at in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: the musical. I just have no memory because against the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: second half of the show, and to me, like, yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: my memory of the second half begins and ends with
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: the very ending of the show.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I know, I know you've talked about that. Like,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: audiences also think that the second half is weaker, so
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see if they're able to pull
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: off something that is more well received. I watched the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: first one.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I joyed it.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Bailey is so freakin' charismatic, as Fierro is just superb.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: I did feel like it was almost it was a
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: very long first half, but it was almost rushed to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: me at points, but I thought it was well done.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I can forgive that the CGI looks like CGI because
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: it's a fantasy world, but it did look like CGI,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm a little iffy on that, and I am
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: surprised that so many people didn't realize it was a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: part one, and I know what we know, but we
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: read about entertainment news, so.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: And the second half is going to have a lot
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: more dramatic work for Fierro. And I think like as
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: much as I slag off on the second half, as
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: far as like strong musically wise, like like the fact
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: that I feel I feel like it's weighted toward the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: front half of the musical for the best songs, as
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: much as I feel like that this trailer has so
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: many impressive visuals, like the little sequence with the Wizard
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: looks like very cool, like super cool. And also this
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: is going to be the one that incorporates more of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: the Wizard of Oz into the story, like the story
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: of the Wizard of Oz, not just the character, because
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: you do get to see little glimpses of Dorothy in this.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: The musical talks about Dorothy, but you don't really see
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: her in the musical. They're going to be able to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: do a little bit more of that, which makes you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: wonder how much of Wizard of Oz is going to
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: make its way into Wicked Part two, And that I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: think is interesting and I.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Do feel like that I have read the synopsis of
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the musical. I feel like that will help tie the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: second half to the end a little bit better and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: maybe give a little bit more closure.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this comes out November twenty first, I don't
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: know why I need to even bother saying that the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: marketing is going to be everywhere from now until the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: end of November. Uh, I'm sure Cynthia, Rivo and Aria
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: and Grande are going to go on another one of
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: those crazy press junket tours where they just end up
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: holding each other's fingers, holding each other's fingers.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and space Now, it's delightful. It's fun. It's actually
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: fun listening to them talk about those interviews where it's
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: some of the weirder interactions happened because because they're like, yeah,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: we don't know.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, those are long days, I imagine. Yeah, I'm
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: sure by the end of it you are just kind
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: of hallucinating your way through another interview.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I'm hallucinating my way through this episode, I can tell.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Speaking of hallucinations, we got a full trailer for Sketch,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: which we talked about a little bit when the teaser
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: came out. This trailer gives a lot more information. It
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: makes the movie feel a lot more upbeat, and if
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: you aren't, if you don't remember what sketch is, it
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: is the the story about a girl who draws monsters
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and then they come to life and attack things.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the little girl's name is Amber. She's dealing with
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: big emotions. She's encouraged to put her feelings into a book.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: She apparently drops that book into an enchanted pond of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: some sort, and that's when the things that she's drawn
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: start to come into the real world and start wreaking havoc.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: And this actually looks cuter than I thought it would
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: because the teaser, like a teaser, I couldn't get a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: handle on. Is this a comedy?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Is this a horror that it's going to be pretty bloody?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: It's not horror. It's not horror. It's more like, I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: think a comedic kids film, adventure movie that has some
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: pretty heavy like messaging about coming to terms with your
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: emotions and getting an understanding of your feelings and how
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: other people feel. It's the kind of stuff, honestly, that
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: mister Rogers specialized in. It's just it's done in a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: very fantastic way. But mister Rogers, if you watch any
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: old Mister Rogers episodes more often than not. What does
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: episodes were really about, We're getting a better understanding of
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: your emotions as a child and the emotions of other
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: people so that you could grow into all well rounded adult.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I do still and they do talk about that in
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: the trailer. I do still think there will be some
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: tens or some mildly scary moments in it because it
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: is a lot of monsters.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: She's drawing the parents all shapes and sizes.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the parents are played by Tony Hale and Darcy
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: d Arcy Carden, who are both incredibly funny people. I
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: really want to see this movie.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes out August sixth. I will say like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: this trailer ends with an action between three of the kids.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: And my last note was the child actors seem like
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: they're really really good, like like they come across as
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: like like they're they're delivering snappy lines in a way
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: that feels natural, Like it feels like kids, but the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: way you think kids talk, not the way they actually talk.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell that they have they have done
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: if they don't already understand either. The lines are written
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: in a way that kids could really understand them. Or
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: they really worked hard to make sure they understood the content.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: It's it's impressive.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I agree, this looks good. Next up
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: another children movie, not not in that way. Black Phone?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Is it in any way a children's movie?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is, but not not in the sense of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: in the sense of kids are the victims? Absolutely it is.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I did not know that.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Ooh no, okay, let me summarize what black Phone the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: first thing? Yayes. So In Black Phone, it's set in
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: the late nineteen seventies. There is a serial kidnapper who
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: is nicknamed the Grabber, and this is the character who
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: wears the devilish mask who has been known to snatch
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: kids and they just disappear, and the police have no
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: idea where this person is or where the kids are.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: And this one kid, he and his sister are in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: a single parent household. Their mother had committed suicide years before.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Their father is mentally damaged by that and is abusive.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: The boy is trying his best to just kind of
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: make it through day to day. His sister has some
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: psychic abilities, which her mother also had, and because of
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: her psychic abilities, the father is particularly hard on the sister.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing because she reminds him of his late wife. Anyway,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: the boy gets kidnapped. There's a disconnected phone in the
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: basement where he's thrown in, and the phone occasionally rings,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: and he hears the voices of previous victims giving him
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: information about how to try and escape from the Grabber.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: The end of that movie spoiler alert, the end of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: that movie, the Grabber seems like he's really well and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: truly dead. That brings us to Black Phone, too, where
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Ethan Hawk, who played the Grabber in the first film,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: is back. He is the Grabber, but in my notes,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we aren't really clear whether or not he's
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: back back, or he's back in the same sense that
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: his victims were able to reach beyond the veil of
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: death and contact this young boy. But the trailer looks
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: creepy as heck.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, And maybe that's why I didn't pick up on
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: all of that, because it looked really scary. I didn't
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: watch Black Phone, and I don't really have interest, Like
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: it sounds like an interesting story. It really does, but.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Not for me. It's intense. It's intense. It's not it's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: not a it's a well done horror movie. It is
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: not a pleasant experience.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Fair enough, you need those things. Maybe I don't always
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: need those things.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Something else that I just want to say comes out
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: October seventeenth. Okay, go ahead, thank you.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Something else that has been too intense for me became
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: too intense for me and I dropped out. Was The Boys. Well,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: we got a trailer for gen V, which is a
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: spin off of the Boys. It surprisingly looked less grotesque
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: and more hopeful than I expected it.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Interesting, I didn't have I actually had it where it
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: looked dark. But so gen V, as Asarael mentioned as
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: a spin off for the Boys, this is following a
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: educational institution that is designed to train superpowered beings. And
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: in the first there's going to be some spoilers for
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: The Boys in this and for gen V season one.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I apologize, there's just no way to get around it.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: But in the process of gen V, that's before everyone
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: has found out that Vaught essentially manufactured superheroes, that it
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: created a a serum that then could be injected into
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: people to give them superpowers. So essentially, the characters of
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: gen V discover they weren't born with superpowers. Their parents
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: elected to have this experimental drug injected into their children
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: in return for lots of money from Vaught, And so
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of like trauma to process there. Right, Well,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: GENV season two, that stuff's out in the open. Now,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: like that's an open it's not even a secret, it's
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: just out in the open.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: So how it came out in like Boys season two,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: didn't it?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think like the public doesn't really find out about
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: it till maybe season three. But gen V also is
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: like it's overlapping stuff that's happening in The Boys. It's not,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: it's it's supposed to be happening at the same time
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: as other stuff that's going on in that universe. In
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: this one, we're seeing scenes of students being either encouraged
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: to or forced to fight one another in like a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: gladiator style confrontation. Which that's where I'm thinking, No, this
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: looks like it's darker to me because now now you're
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: talking about educational Like, first of all, it was never
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: an educational institution. It was all about because like the
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: education was never about how to identify danger situations and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: how to respond to them in a way that is helpful.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: It was always about how do you elevate your profile,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: how do you get more followers, how do you interact
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: with the media. Like it had nothing to do with
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: actually being a hero. It had everything to do with
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: being perceived as a hero. So this looks just as
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: dark because now it's like, let's pit these two against
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: each other and the strong will survive, and those are
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: going to be the essentially the soldiers and the oncoming
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: confrontation between the superpowered and the non superpowered. Like there's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of magneto kind of energy going on here.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe darker was the wrong word. Maybe it just
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: at least this trailer didn't look as gross.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there was, which I bet there's going to
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: be lots of very gross stuff because that just seems
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: to be bread and butter for this franchise.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of the whole point of The Boys.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, I don't object to having some of
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: that in order to tell your story, but it gets
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: to the level of gratuitous in The Boys, Like it's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: not serving any purpose other than to shock the viewers.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: There's no point. They're just seeing how far they can
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: push the limit, like they've stopped being like we're pushing
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: the limit to prove a point. Yeah, Yeah. That being said,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I love hamishlink latter, so I adore him.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it looks like it. I mean, I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: kind of want to keep watching the Boys to see
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: it through because it's it's concluding the major storyline. I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: think the next season is the last one.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: I think it is. They're bringing in all the supernatural people.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all the Winchesters will be there. I feel
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: like I need to watch it just to get closure.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: But it got to a point like, if it doesn't
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: end in a satisfying way, I'm gonna ask myself what
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: was the point of watching it? Because it has been
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: such a grim march. It's the same issue I had
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: with things like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead, and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: y'all know how I feel about those, Like it's just
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't want my stories to just be
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: wallowing in misery and that's all they do.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I haven't watched Speaking, I haven't
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: watched season two of Last of Us, but I have
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: spoken to several friends who have started season two and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: we're not familiar with the video game, and that has
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: been delightfully fun just from a outside looking in standpoint.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, finding out like the big thing that happens in
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: episode two, and they're all like, oh my god, like, yeah, no,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: if you had this, it's it's like, it's like the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: people who are watching Game of Thrones who had not
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: read the books and the red wedding comes around and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: they were not prepared, and everyone who had read the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: books is like, yep, that happens, yep.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Which I guess you could have those feels if you
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: went into Squid Game knowing nothing about that as well.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, squid I mean it's another dark Like I'm hoping
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: for a satisfying ending of this. There's one dark ending
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I can imagine, and I hope it's not where they're going,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: but it's hard to say. We got a trailer, a
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: full trailer for Squid Game season three. We've gotten a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: couple of teasers leading up to this, and this one
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: shows our protagonist Song Jihun questioning why he was allowed
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: to live after the events of Squid Game two. Like
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: he he essentially leads an uprising in an attempt to
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: gain access to the game runners, and ultimately that effort
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: is unsuccessful, largely because he isn't aware of the fact
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: that one of the people on his side is not
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: really on his side. He's secretly the person running the games.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Spoiler for good Game.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Season perfect timing on that, Jonathan, I'm stole only halfway
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: through season one, but.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Well, season two begins begins with us seeing this guy
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: enter into so it's like it's a secret to the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: characters but not to the audience, that kind of thing.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: And this is where apparently in this trailer there's a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: moment where it's revealed to the protagonist, who up to
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: that point had not been aware that he was working
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: with a trader. Essentially also shows a couple of new games.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: There's a jump rope game that's shown in the trailer
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: that looks pretty brutal, and the fact we already knew
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: this part, but that the remaining players are all divided
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: into two groups, either a Red group or a Blue group,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: and that splits up some of the alliances and there. Yeah.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Comes out on June twenty seventh on Netflix, and I'm
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: sure I'll watch this to closure as well.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Like I enjoyed season one of Squid Games, it was
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: just so dark that I was like, I have to
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: be in the right mood to watch it.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely I felt.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: That it's a very well told story, at least as
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: far as I've seen. It did strike me in watching
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the trailer for season three, because honestly, this is one
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: of the shows where I probably benefit from having spoilers, honestly,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: so I can emotionally prepare myself for what I'm about
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: to see, because I very much get into what i'm watching.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Like I when I watched season one of Last of Us.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: When I knew I got to the beautiful but heartbreaking episode,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I have to distract myself while I'm watching
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: this or I'm going to be too I'm going to
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: be a wreck for the rest of the night.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I still can't watch that episode without breaking down.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can't. I was distracting myself. I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: was working on my computer, I think, on LLENC stuff
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: while I was watching it, and I still bald like
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: a baby. Watching the trailer for Squid Game season three
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: and then we'll move on. It did strike me for
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: how dark of a show it is, how brightly colored
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: it is. I don't know why that didn't strike me
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: in the first two seasons, but yeah, just the childlike
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: bold colors. Is I like that aesthetic?
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely. I think what adds adds to the
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: unsettling nature of the story, right, is that you've got
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: this juxtaposition of the childlike elements with the very grim
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: reality of the outcome. Right, Yeah, so very effective. You know,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: no surprise that it was kind of a runaway hit.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad that we're getting the conclusion. I'm also
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: glad that we're not having to wait like a year
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: or two years to get the finale. Like it's literally
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: it's literally the end of this month. Next up, we
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: got a trailer for an animated film that's going to
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: air on Netflix starting July fifth, called The Summer Hakaru Died.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: This is a anime adaptation of manga. So this already
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: existed in another format, which is the only reason I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: know anything about it is because I read up on
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: the manga. I haven't I haven't read the manga myself.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: I watched this trailer, I was like, I don't understand
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: anything of what I just saw, but it looked really
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: psychedelic and free heat.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: At first, I thought it was like maybe one of
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: the story of one of the characters in Uzumaki, which
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: was that creepy horror spiral Randa, but I don't think
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: it is. I I will admit I did rush through
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: this trailer because I missed it and watch it before
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: the episode, so I don't quite know what's going on
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: in it. But it's interesting.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: So it's it's the basic stories you got, Like these
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: two teenage boys who are friends. One of them suffers
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: a fatal injury and is then possessed by some sort
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: of otherworldly or other dimensional being that takes possession of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: this this dead kid and still is trying to navigate
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: through the human world being but the human world is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: alien to this creature and is kind of latching on
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: to the living teenager. But he's like obviously creeped out
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: by the fact that this this entity is controlling the
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: body of his former friend. And the trailer, like I said,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: has lots of psychedelic elements to it and a lot
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: of like body horror elements to it, but it doesn't
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: it also isn't coming across like it's an outright horror story.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Just like there's horror elements to it, it's hard to describe.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd kind of feel like, do you want to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: say when it releases? Because I was about to segue.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, July fifth.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, I also feel like the teaser we got, which
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: first of all, they called a data announcement, and now
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: they're calling it a teaser for Wake Up dead Man,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: which is the third in the Knives Out Glass Onion series. Yeah,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: hard for me to describe, but maybe that's because it
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the little teaser doesn't have quite the same
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: levity as the first two.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got O Death playing underneath it, which I
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: first became familiar with with Oh Brother, Where art thou?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: But it's also used in some of the you know
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: those games like Until Dawn, the company that makes those games,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: the ones that are like the branching storyline games where
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: the choices you make will have an effect throughout the
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: rest of the game, and maybe if you're really good,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: you can make everybody survive, but chances are that's not
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: going to happen.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: It was my first Balder's Gate playthrough.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: O Death is used in some of those, and like
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: there's like a trilogy where O death is used in
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: that anyway, there's a moment where Ben wil Blanc talks
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: about the impossible crime and that this is a real
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: challenge that's really all we get, like, we don't get
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of information with this other than you know,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: the incredible cast list, like yeah, it's like an all
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: star cast. You got like Glenn Close and Josh Brolin
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: and Meela Cunis and Jeremy Renner, Kerrie Washington, Andrew Scott,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: Thomas Hayden Church. They do, they do mention the release date,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: but in a I mean, it's not like super tricky.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: You don't have to decode anything, but it's not super obvious.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: They flash up some Roman numerals, and the Roman numerals
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: tell you when the release date is, which is December twelfth.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday to me, maybe, unlike the date announcement for
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: Stranger Things five, which was actually a date announcement because
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: they didn't give you any information about the new season
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: other than when it's coming out at the most freaking inconvenient.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Times ever, November twenty sixth is when it comes out.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: The first volume, which one the day before Thanksgiving.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: But that's which I have a it's convenient because the
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: day after Thanksgiving you can watch it.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: That is not convenient for me. The day after Thanksgiving
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: my house is usually full of one thousand bazillion people.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Well, that's your fault for inviting them. It's not like
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: they break the door down. You bring it on yourself.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Many of them have keys.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. Volume two comes out on Christmas
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: and the finale is New Year's Eve.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Which I'm doing other things those days. I can't binge
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Stranger Things.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're bothering doing on New Year's Eve.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: To me, like staying in and watching Stranger Things sounds
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: like the best option.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Sometimes. Okay, sometimes I do stay in and I binge
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: TV on New Year's Eve. However, sometimes I have a
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: big old game day until like midnight.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: This is their problem, Ariel. You have friends and if
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: you just stop doing that. No, but more seriously, yeah,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: this trailer mostly I mean, it's almost entirely made up
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: of clips from previous seasons, and then it gives you
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: the actual dates of release and mentions this is the
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: series finale.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: This is it.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: So we've told you all the interesting information you weren't
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: going to get like crazy trailer showing what's going to happen, because,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: like I said, most of the stuff that you see
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: is taken from previous seasons, including the first one.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do know that Sean Levy, who worked on
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Stranger Things, is working on So we've talked about this
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: in the past, some other sort of spin off, but
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: not the one you'd kind of expect. And I don't
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: know if I mentioned this, maybe we mentioned about it
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: when we talk D and D. He's also making a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: D and D show for Netflix, and so my husband
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Tony thinks that maybe it is a D and D
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: show that is the campaign that the kids were running.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: M Yeah, which is a spin off, but not which
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: means what do they call the creature in the first
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: season that it's gotten demogorgan? Yeah, which is a D
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: and D monster, but not the.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: One in It's not it doesn't look like something a
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Stranger Things.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: No, but maybe you'd get the actual D and D
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: version of the demogorgan in the upcoming series. All right,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: So next up, we have a trailer for a film
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: that I told Ariel she should not watch. So, Ariel,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: did you watch this?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I watched like five minutes on Silent five minutes trailer,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: now five minutes, like five or ten seconds on seconds
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: on Silent and then I was like, Okay, I understand
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: why I shouldn't watch it. I also don't understand what's
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: going on, so it just feels like a lot of gratuity.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I told I told her not to watch this.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: And before I talk about it, I do want to say, like,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: if you listen to this and you think, oh, I
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: need to go check out that trailer, I am giving
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: you a warning that there is gratuitous material in this
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: trailer and that it is it in turns shocking and disturbing.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: So it may go beyond not child friendly to not
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: adult friendly.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly not child friendly, not even a little bit. Yeah, Like,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: don't think like this is if you have ever asked
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: yourself I wonder if all animation is for children, Well,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: this will categorically tell you that no, it is not.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: It's way worse than Cool World.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, although it does make me think of Ralph Bakshi,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: who was the person behind Cool World. I'll talk about
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: that in a second. So the film is called Dog
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: of God. It is an animated film. It premiered at
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: the Trebeca Film Festival. It is rotoscoped. Now you know
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: what rotoscope animation is, Ariel, I.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Do, because we talked about it in our business on
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: the brink Disney episodes. Yeah, it's where it's where they
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: use a person and they film the person and then
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: they trace over the person for the animation.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, so when you watch rotoscoped animated films, you might
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: think like, oh, this looks like like very highly stylized
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: film as opposed to animation. And that's that's the reason why.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: So this film is rotoscoped, which makes it more disturbing
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: in my opinion.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: It tells the story of a quote unquote werewolf in
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: a Livonian community in the seventeenth century. Now, when I
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: say were wolf, what I really mean is not like
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: it's not like the were wolf that we associate with
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: like traditional light canthrop stories. It's more like more like
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: kind of a witch or a shaman that has like
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: a deep connection to animals and nature. The trailer has
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: lots of depictions of real just horror, and graphic scenes
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: of not just horror, but sex as well and torture
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: and all sorts of stuff. I did say it does
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: remind me of Ralph Bakshi's experimental stuff, the darker stuff.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: In particular. It also reminds me of a movie called
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: Sallow or the one hundred and Twenty Days of Sodom,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: which I do not recommend anyone watch unless there they've
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: got a very strong stomach. It's a very disturbing movie.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: This made me think of that it comes out this year.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: It's already played at Trebeca. Like I said, one of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: the things, one of the descriptions I read actually categorized
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: it partly under comedy. I assume they mean like from
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: a very dark comedy perspective, but I wanted to cover
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: it because, like, it falls into so many buckets for
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: our genre stuff. But it's this is not for everybody.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: This is like, I don't know if I will go
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: and see this because I don't know if I will
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: like what it makes my brain do.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm definitely noping out of this. It's
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: definitely in that category of it's not for aerial, not
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: for Ariel.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: The next thing we've got on here is a trailer
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: for House on Eden, which is like a found footage
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: sort of thing. It just looks like I was gonna
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: say Smash, but I don't know if the two women
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: in it are actually from Smash. No.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: Chris might have been on a Smash video before. It's
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: call Me Chris is her YouTube channel, and she's been
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: doing YouTube for a long time, and she's just this
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: kind of goofy Canadian check who does really silly videos,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: mostly of her talking directly to the camera, right, not
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: like sketches or anything like that, although she will occasionally
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: She started doing I first became familiar with her through
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: her sketches.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll do things like characters and stuff, especially like
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: things where she'll talk to herself as different characters. But
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of the videos I'm most familiar with are
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: ones where she's it's like vlog style where she's talking
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: about something specific, like maybe she's reviewing Japanese snacks or
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: something like that. Right, But so Chris Collins is in it.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Selena Myers is. She's also a YouTuber.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: I love Selena Myers.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: They're both in this movie, so it's like YouTubers who
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: got together to make a film. They also had done
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: paranormal investigation videos for Chris's YouTube channel.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: Selena, who's handle is Selena Spooky Boo, will put up
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: like night vision videos of herself having sleepwalking it spells,
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: which can be kind of creep because you're watching it
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: through the night vision. But It's also really informative because
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: she shares her experience with dealing with that and her
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: partner's experience with dealing with that, because yeah, it's a lot.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a house on Eden is like a haunted
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: house found footage film. It's coming out on Shutter on
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: July twenty fifth, I wrote that it doesn't look like
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: it's It doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look particularly
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: groundbreaking either. But you know, if you like found footage
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: style horror movies, this might be one to check out.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how how Chris comes across as
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: an actor and not just like a not to diminish this,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: but not a YouTube influencer type. Yeah.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to say, my first experience with
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Chris was has she done any other acting? I like,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: my first experience was her doing like uber driver skits
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She recently did a review about some candies and
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: one of the candy companies that she reviewed is one
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: that has its own YouTube channel, and so she does
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: this video where she orders all this specialty candy from
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: this company, like including this really elaborate, beautiful ribbon candy
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: hard candy and she does this video and then, like
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: I said, the candy company also has a YouTube channel.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: They do their own like making of like here's how
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: we make this type of candy. And it's really like
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: if you find that kind of stuff relaxing, like I do,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: it's great to kind of just zone out and watch people,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: you know, like pulling hard candy over and over to
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: get the right consistency and color and that kind of stuff. Well, yeah,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: they did a response video where they're like, thanks Chris,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. You've sold us out, Like they literally had
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: sold out of everything. They show the shelves and like
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: there's nothing on them, and like their their shipping room
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: is just full of boxes that are getting ready to
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: pick up, and they're like, we're going to be busting
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: our butts for the next like three weeks trying to
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: fill out all these orders. And they're like it's a
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: great problem to have. But they were playfully salty about it,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: not really salty, but playfully salty about it. It was
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: just kind of cute to see two different YouTubers who
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: had no real connection apart from one tried the other
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: one's product, gave it a positive review, and then that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: had a huge impact. But yeah, you know, they didn't
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: know each other, so that was kind of fun.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that kind of marketing is really cool and
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: fun to watch how it works. Because we talked about it,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: I wanted to look whether Chris Collins had done other acting,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: and she's been in six things, one of which is
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Kids That she was in an episode of Kids in
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: the Hall.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, well, I mean she is Canadian.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and then eighty x M.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: Oh wait, yeah, she wasn't. She wasn't Kids in the Hall.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: She was in the more recent Kids in the Hall
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: where they did the limited series on was Amazon I
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: think it was Amazon Prime.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was in eighty XM,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: which was a short one episode of the Smash TV series,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: and six episodes of Gi Normo Gotcha.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: And finally, at the last second, Ariel added. By the
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: last second, I mean last night, Ariel added a trailer.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't even add the link.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: No, no, I had to find the link and added
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: but she put the She's like, hey watch this. I'm like, okay,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: I'll go find it and watch it. I guess she
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: put the trailer for Alien Earth and in a further
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: proof that Ariel is very tired. She did not pick
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: up on the fact that Alien Earth had numerous references
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: to one of her favorite works of literature of all time,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Petra Pan, Peter Pan, Petra Pan, the Russian.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: Version, Patapan, the Christmas version. Yeah. So back when we
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: first learned about Alien Earth, I'm sure I've beat this
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: rock to a dust already. On this show they talked
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: about it kind of following the corporations, like the shady
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: corporations behind everything being the main and then I think
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: there are this TV show actually has four others we
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: find out, and the show focusing on that and so this,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: and then we got a bunch of teasers where they
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: like showed the cell multiplication of an embryo of a
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: new kind of alien xenomorph hybrid something.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really gross.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like a spaceship and outer space. And so
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: I was really doubtful it was going to focus on
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: the corporations that maybe are pulling the strings behind a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: lot of this tragedy, But this trailer sure makes it
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: seem like that is in fact what it is focusing on.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: It is focusing on it is, however, messing with the
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: timeline a lot to the point where I'm like, the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: Alien timeline literally makes no sense to me anymore, and
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: it almost needs just a total reboot, like just so, yeah,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like Highlander. How Highlander? After the first
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: film nothing made sense, Like they kept trying, but it
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: never I mean, arguably the first film doesn't really make sense.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: But it's fun.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: That's why I was laughing.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. Though. After that, though, everything that is
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: added to it ends up contradicting, at least in part,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: something that happened in the first film. I kind of
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: feel the same way. It's true about Alien. So this
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: series is set like thirty years before the events of
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: the first Alien film, which means it would be happening
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: around the same time as Prometheus, except that the showrunner
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: has said he didn't like Prometheus, and so he's kind
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: of ignoring Prometheus and its sequel.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's the general consensus of
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: most people who saw Prometheus.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, but then others are arguing, well, the way
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: it's presented an Alien, the crew of the Nostromo are
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: the first who are able to report back the existence
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: of the Xenomorph, and that you know, this seems to
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: contradict that, because it appears that the xenomorph is going
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: to play at least some role in Alien Earth. So
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: that's confusing. The Other thing is that you have all
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: these peter Pan references, which makes you wonder like is
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: there a reason for that? Is it just to be cheeky?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: Is there like actual connective tissue somehow? Because the trailer
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: opens where we find that a young girl, presumably a
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: young girl who has some sort of incurable condition, is
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: going to have her consciousness transferred into a synthetic body
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: like an answer, So they.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Say, oh, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt your synopsis.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: They say that she is very very special, and I
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: wonder if she has some relation to Prometheus and that
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: she's got some of that.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: You didn't watch it, no, But again, this would be
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: happening around the same time as the stuff in Prometheus,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: which is happening in deep space, and this is happening
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: on Earth, so it doesn't really I can't see where
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: there'd be a connection anyway.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: I mean like maybe like there are these primordial beings
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: that created stuff, horrible stuff, and maybe she has some
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: relation to them or ooze from them, like my well,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: continue on, I have some theories, but.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: You continue, Well, my theory is that she's supposed to
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: have some sort of condition that is expected to make
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: her lifespan significantly shorter. Whether or not she got that naturally,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: or maybe even the corporation did it on purpose, we
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: don't know. But she is being Her consciousness is being
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: transferred into a synthetic body. Her name is Wendy, clearly
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: a reference to Peter Pan because the facility where this
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: is happening is on never Land Research Island, so never
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Land another Peter Pan reference. I looked at the cast list.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: There is an actor who's playing a character who's called Toodles.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: It's a lost boy reference. Another one who's playing a
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: character called me. That's a you know, obviously a pirate
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: reference from Peter Pan. Although the CEO, the young CEO
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: of the company, his name is ludicrous. Did you see
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: what his name is. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's not Peter Pan.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: It's not Peter Pan. No boy cavalier. Okay.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: There's also a nibs in a curly and a slightly yeah.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: So it's there's all these references to Peter Pan, and
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is there a I mean, you name someone Smee.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Like some of these references might who Okay, crazy woman,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: you clearly have an idea, why don't you share it
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: with the rest of the class.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: The company names them after these classic literary Lost boy characters.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know about sme but the rest of them
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: because the Lost Boys never grow up and therefore never
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: die of natural causes, and once you are put into
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: a synthetic body, that is the same case for you.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, assuming that these other characters are also synthetics.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: I I feel like at least one of them is,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: because in the trailer, Wendy goes we I don't remember.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: It's something to the effect that we can't die, we're
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: really strong or something like that. So my feeling is
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: that they're sending an army of synthetics in to go
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: after a spaceship crashes and releases all of these specimens
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: that the creepy corporations have I guess, been trying to
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: collect or whatever.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, like the timeline to me doesn't work with
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: the other entries, and alien doesn't mean that this is
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: going to be bad. It could be really entertaining, really interesting.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, with the exception of the first
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: two Alien movies. A lot of the alien stuff just
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: doesn't line up very well, and it gets very confusing
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: and contradictory. And I feel like this continues that trend
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: which show. But it looks it's still it looks interesting,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: it looks like it'll be entertaining. I just if you're
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: someone like me, like I love consistency in my fictional universes,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: and when things are inconsistent, it it nags at me.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe this is a little neurodivergence coming in
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: on my on my end, but like if something, if
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: if a universe is unable to maintain internal consistency, it
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: really starts to bug me.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Well, it feels like bad writing. If I can if
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: like if it can be its own thing with it,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: like its own story within the universe, like DC does
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: that a lot, right, There are all these different Superman
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: stories that don't line up. They just all focus on Superman,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: but they could not exist in the same world together
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: by any means. If this is like that, it's totally fine,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I suspect, but I get what you're saying. If I
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: think about things too hard, that'll that'll bother me too.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: I do wonder if this will show that while alien
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: which I love alien and Aliens, I think they are
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: two great different genres but great movies. But this, this
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: series might show that maybe that wasn't actually the first
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: run in with the Xenomorph, but the waylan Ewtani didn't
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: want to admit to.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: That, Yeah, maybe it's just like, if it's happening at
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: the scale that it appears to be happening in the series,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: how would Wailan Utani be able to contain that information
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: so that it's not just widely known, right, Like that's
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: the because this stuff doesn't look like it's a small
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: thing that's happening now. So like it would be like,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: if let's say we've got a crew being sent up
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: to the International Space Station and then Katee Kennedy was
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: to explode, it'd be kind of hard to keep from them,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: like it's a big event, like even though they're already
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: on their way up. And of course, as far as
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: we can tell, when Nostromo, they weren't necessary. I mean,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know when the Nostromo's mission was supposed to
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: start again. Timelines are difficult because that wasn't really when
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Ridley Scott was making the first alien movie. That wasn't
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: what was important. He was making a monster movie set
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: in a spaceship where you literally, you know, you can't escape.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: There's nowhere to escape too. It's like if you were
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: on a boat and say Dracula was also on your boat,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: and you're like, why did I get on the demeter
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: in the first place? This was a dumb idea.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't watch that movie when it came out.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: Oh it's not good. Oh yeah, not good. I watched it.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: It is I was very disappointed sadness. Well, if you
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: want to watch Alien Earth and either be disappointed or
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: figure out some of the answers to the myriad of
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: questions we have, when does it come out?
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: August twelfth on FXT. So that's it. Those are we
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: have gone super long. So I'm just gonna say, if
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: you want to get in touch with it, you get
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: in touch with Ariel and then she'll let me know,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: because I'm not going to do that for this one.
• 1:46:57
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• 1:46:59
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• 1:47:00
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• 1:47:03
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• 1:47:07
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• 1:47:11
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• 1:47:14
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• 1:47:17
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• 1:47:27
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• 1:47:29
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