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NFL Week 15 DFS Picks December 17, 2023 | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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and some other members and lots of people in some good spots today. How
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you doing, hoop what's going on? Man? Yeah, looking forward to
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today. I mean it's a nice slate, you know, I kind of
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like I think I have a pretty good read on it. You and I
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were talking before the show. There's some spots that I'm definitely looking to get
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overweight on, some very solid spots or some good leverage spots. You know,
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I'm just liking this late a lot, and I think we're we're gonna
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have some success today. A little under the weather, as you can hear.
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And I texted, you know, texted you yesterday and I said,
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hey, you know, the voice isn't doing so well. If I had
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this throat thing going, really couldn't talk yesterday. Today a little bit better.
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And now I joked, I said, hey, you know, just
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just just in case you're wondering, I mean, we got a two man
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Not that you need it or anything, but you might be getting a
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Almost but it's a cough game or throat whatever you want to call it.
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He's got something going on hoop flu show, like our guy go collect
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there. We will be showing off the site in a little bit. We're
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gonna preview and spoiler some of the stack rankings go through it that way for
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you guys. The projections are updated now. We'll have more updates to come
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before lock, but for now, while we wait on a lot of the
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news, we can start there though. Hoop, we got you know,
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some injury stuff for sure that we're waiting on. We will get it by
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the time Lock happens. Like you know, I'm just thinking out loud here.
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It was just mentioned about Dylan being out, but but Aaron Jones gonna
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play. We'll wait on Wix. Sounds like Watson's doubtful that's in that game.
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He keep it going. Waiting on Olave sounds like he's gonna be out.
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Tyree, I think he's gonna be in. But that's bigger news.
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So where are you at with that? What's your sort of grand scheme overview?
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At least as we dive into it, because we've got a bunch of
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morning games, but the afternoon is some of the better games and better spots
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as well. So it makes it slate pretty interesting. Yeah, so,
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I mean week fifteen of the NFL season. It started to see a little
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bit of it last week where they're more news going into the Sunday slate that
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we don't have you know, this season, it's been pretty good. We
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haven't had many surprises on Sunday where oh this guy's out. But again,
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it's week fifteen, We're going to start to see it. There's gonna be
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more guys that we're waiting on. There's going to be more surprises when the
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inactives come out. So it's just that time of year. You know.
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There's already been some i'd say pretty slate changing news, you know, with
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with you know, Aaron Jones in, AJ Dillon out, that's that's pretty
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big on the slate, especially if you're playing over on FanDuel where Aaron Jones
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only like six point two k where if he finds the end zone once you're
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kind of free roll in the rest of the way. So a lot of
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big pieces of information. I mean the big one on this late is Tyreek
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whether or not he plays. I mean that is certainly slight changing news.
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I guess you know a chain too, I mean, he's questionable. If
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he's out, most of it becomes a very very solid play. So we
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have the ability for some slate changing news to break, you know, within
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the next hour hour and a half. So we'll stay tuned to we'll you
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know, we'll stay on top all that and get the information. The content
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will be updated, will be in discord. But you know, it's really
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just you know, it's that time of year, Week fifteen of the NFL
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season. We're gonna see this from here on out and have the opportunity to
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gain some advantages on the field. Yeah, that's the thing too. Like
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I said, if you guys have the news as you're going throughout it,
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just let us know. I'm going to keep an eye on my phone here
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for all the notifications that pop up and see what happens here. But we'll,
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like you said, we'll go over to the site. We'll preview the
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stack rankings as we go throughout, and interestingly enough, i'll bring that up.
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The first game on the slate that we're gonna break down is Tampa Bay
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Green Bay, and you could talk about it. I'll pull up the stack
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rankings and the spoiler alert. You're gonna see something there when we get there,
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So go ahead, Tampa Bay Green Bay will start there. What's your
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first take on this one? Yeah, so forty what forty two and a
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half total? Green Bay coming off a disappointing loss obviously to the Giants,
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but they're you know, still in the mix to essentially make the playoffs,
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so big game for them at home. Their offense looks like shit against the
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Giants. Took me out of that DK survivor pool, which was painful,
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but you know, it is what it is. I said on the show,
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I didn't necessarily like the spot, but I just didn't have many options.
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Uh yeah, Jordan LOVESI. It seems like a good bounce back spot.
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He played like absolute dog turns in that game on Monday Night. It
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was pathetic. I mean, he was that's the worst he's looked all season.
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I do think it's a pretty good spot for him to get right.
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I think Aaron Jones in Dylan out is definitely a boost to Love. I
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mean, it's a more outs for him. You know, Jones can catch
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out of the backfield. AJ Dillon is a freaking statue back there, and
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it's shocking to me they continue to give this guy carries. I mean,
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he's just right titles not on the show, and he's kind of coined this
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term. But I mean, Dylan is freaking cheat. So Jones in Dylan
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would likely out is a boost for the overall offense. And then we have
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Christian Watson who's gonna miss, and that opens up opportunities for a lot of
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cheap wide receivers. So the Packers stack is very, very cheap. If
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you want a double stack, single sack, whatever you do, it's cheap.
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You got Romeo Dubbs fifty three hundred, Jayden Reid forty nine. And
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then we got to see on Wicks whether or not he's in. He is
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questionable. If he's in good play, if he's out, I'm gonna have
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some interest in Malie Heath, who was out there a ton on Monday night
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in the red zone. He caught the touchdown. He was the next guy
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up. And they're not afraid to throw on the ball. You got a
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cheap tight end in in Tucker Craft. It's a really good spot for the
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Packers today offense, you know, considering the injuries and considering the spot for
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them. We're at home, you know, coming off a crappy performance.
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I think it's a good bounce back spot on the buccaneer side. Gonna keep
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riding Rashad White. I mean, the guy just does does it all so
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many outs. I mean they're playing with the lead. He gets the goal
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line work. If they're playing from behind, they'll get a ton of catches.
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He's just their guy. Mike Evans probably the only other Buccaneers guy that
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I'll play. Trey Palmer three point one can just don't think he needed to
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say. We talked about him a few times. He's getting solid targets for
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a while, but I don't think we need it really on this late,
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So we're sad. White's my favorite guy on the Bucks, followed by Mike
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Evans, and then on the Packers. I'm gonna be getting exposure to the
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entire offense. I think it's a really good spot for them here today.
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Yeah. No, he had a previous engagement. We already had this worked
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out. He's a guy that will call in from way in advance to let
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us know the details. Yeah, but his prior engagement call ahead could definitely
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still align with a hangover. Yes, it is possible. We didn't know
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in advance, So we're good, Mike. You can't have all the hate
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man on a Sunday morning. We're talking about a guy twenty four, twenty
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seven, twenty four, nineteen, multiple three other twenty two plus point draftings
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scores. He throws the ball like forty times. You're gonna get some off
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games. The nice part is, though Hoop, I pulled out the stack
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rankings here on ship at nation dot com. You just go under NFL if
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you're a member, you're not, you can go sign up now use the
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promo code Mayo gets you Timber sent off. But just one sheet right here,
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the stack rankings. These have been printing all season, nads and I
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go through it, break it all down. You'll see some of the stuff
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here. Purty Murray who will talk later. DeVito's still popping up the board
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for value. But the big thing is Stafford. Is I believe he's twouner
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bucks less? Then yeah, he's twoer bucks less than love on this late
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So the ownership is really coming in there. So if you want to do
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something here and start with your love stacks. And then somebody else said it
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like this is true, But this is the key phrase what I always say,
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it's not who you play, it's how you play him. A lot
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of people are gonna play Red. He's fine even as a one off because
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now you've got no Dylan in there, Like he already gets end a rounds.
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We saw it last game again, another end, a round touchdown.
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He gets a lot of targets, things that he can work with his way.
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Four point nine is cheap, but why don't you stack him up with
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love with some of the other stuff, and then, like you said,
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you can use a guy like Rashad White or Mike Evans on the other side.
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Interesting note, different position, but Mike Evans the exact same price on
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FanDuel as a very or sorry on DraftKings as a very popular Kieran Williams.
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So flip your bild around that way and move things in that direction. But
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you can also just play Kieran Williams if you're not going with the Stafford stack,
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because it pops up our chart and we'll get there shortly. But I'm
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with you on this game. I will say this though, Godwin's still pretty
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cheap. Eleven targets last game, and there was a lot of coaches speak
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about it last week. They at least went with what they said and tried
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to hook him up. Didn't fully work out, but at the price tag
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that you can get off of them, I think it's definitely a good spot
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to you man. Hope your holiday season is going well. I got about
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at least a million reasons why I know it probably is going well. But
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we appreciate you being here joining us on the show this morning. We appreciate
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everybody out there being with us as we break it all down. Rashad White
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was only the really the other one in this game hoop that I had interest
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in that I mentioned seven K. He's kind of squeezed there. You're gonna
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mention it when we get there, but like if a Chan is out most
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it's one hundred bucks more. You did mention Aaron Jones briefly, but you
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kind of just glossed over it. On FanDuel, I think he's even cheaper.
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You have any interest in him instead of like, if you're not going
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to read or craft or someone like that within the or these stacks in general,
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could you get to a Aaron Jones play there just because you kind of
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got better now today, right? Yeah? Yeah, I kind of mentioned
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it kind of quickly. But the sixty two hundred dollars price tag on FanDuel
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is one of those price tags where if he finds the end zone once you're
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kind of free rolling for the rest of the slate, and you know sixty
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two is cheap, and that six k range is looking for your running back
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to get in the end zone, get the six seven points and then you
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know, obviously a guy like Jones can easily add on. But on DK,
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I think the ownership comes in way, way lower, and I will
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get exposure to him on DK as well. I mean, he's sixty five
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hundred on DK. A lot of guys in that price range McCaffrey and Kieran
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Williams are much cheaper on DK compared to fan duels. So I want exposure
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to Jones on DK as well at what should be very low ownership. Yeah,
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I think it has to be. That's the last point I'll say that
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we'll move to Atlanta, Carolina. But just to break it down, like
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you said, not only is McCaffrey easy to get in at ninety three hundred,
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Kieran Williams is probably the most popular running back on the site, maybe
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the most popular play at just seventy five hundred. Very easy to fit him
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in. But then you've got you know, is Zeke Elliott who will get
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you later fifty eight hundred, You've got Antonio Gibson, No, Brian Robinson
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fifty two hundred. So I think people already feel comfortable with where they're going,
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and then you have the outliers that people are mentioning, like who else
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we got Rashad White who we just mentioned, Derrick Henry sixty nine hundred,
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Jon Robinson. Great matchup, and that's a good SEGUEO. Let's go into
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this Atlanta Carolina game. Bijon looks to be in a pretty good spot.
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He's been getting all the end zone red zone work lately, at last,
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at least last couple weeks now, and it doesn't seem like anyone can get
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there because of where he's where he's at, and with all those other running
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backs that I just mentioned. It seems that he's going to come in somewhere
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less than fifteen percent, maybe even ten to twelve percent range. What's your
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thoughts on Bijon there at sixty eight hundred and then other guys in this game
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Atlanta, Carolina. Yeah, I mean it's a it's a tough game for
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fantasy purposes. I mean thirty two and a half total essentially, and there's
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weather in this one. It does not look all that good based on the
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initial reports. Let me just pull it up, get the most updated.
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It's going to rain a ton. It's a lot of rain throughout the game
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and wind as well, and that's why you're seeing this total way way down.
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It's just a tough game for me to get to for fantasy. You
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know, we just talked about Aaron Jones at sixty five hundred, Jon Robinson's
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sixty eight. There's a lot of other good running back plays. I'm going
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to be passing on him today, like and just hope that the coaching staff
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does something stupid and doesn't give him the ball. To be honest with you,
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if Robinson goes off today, it won't be a good day for me.
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Not going to play anything on the Atlanta. Uh, Drake London at
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fifty four, maybe potentially some Drake London on the panther side. It's just
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gonna be Mingo thirty nine hundred continues to get a lot of targets and a
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lot of work. Both defenses, I think are very strong plays. I
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mean I don't want to, you know, get super worried about this weather
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Like in the NFL, I think it's overblown a lot of times. It
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really is, like in Baseball, obviously over yeah, over blown there,
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yeah, there you go. See it's just naturally pivoting over to this side
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of the screen. I don't want to Yeah, I don't want to take
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weather really, but man, when this total is so low, I mean
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it's sitting at thirty two and a half. It's a very low total.
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Two bad teams in my eyes. But you have the wind and rain combo.
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It's not just like one or the other. It's going to be windy,
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it's going to be rain. It's going to be a miserable playing experience
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for these guys. So fine being light on this one. Mingo would probably
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be the highest own guy for me in this game. You see, this
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is my thing. You can't spell Bijon Robinson without rain, and so I
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actually he liked that guy here in this spot sixty eight hundred bucks. It's
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built right into his name. But in general the matchup is good. If
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it is that weather, the rain and the wind and all that, why
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wouldn't they just hand it off to him a ton of time? So I
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will say this, it correleated. Goes with sort of the rest of the
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slate too, But that range of like mostered, especially if a Chan is
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out, Rashad White, Derrick, Henry b Jeon Robinson, Tony Pollard and
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Aaron Jones, like the list goes on. None of those guys can be
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popular. There's just no way. It's it's Kieran Williams at seventy five hundred,
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it's McCaffrey and for good reason up top, and then it goes to
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Ezekiel Elliott and Gibson down low. So I just think that again, we've
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been looking for this guy to get the action. He finally starts getting the
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action, he gets the matchup. Now his price is right. They didn't
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even put sixty nine hundred where it's like that nice number, you know,
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best buy pricing that you have to make fun of and act like a sixteen
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year old school boy to say it like you can just he's sixty eight.
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It's a fair price play him. I think he's fine today. He's a
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guy I really like in the spot, and I'll say too who this has
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been the example I've given all year. It's funny you said that, because
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it is true. It's like it's a terrible total. But the Atlanta games
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have been the terrible point totals where the fantasy point totals fantasy point total sorry,
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have been good like the Ridder games and stelling like a Ridder will put
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up twenty or something when they only put up seventeen as a team. You
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know, we've seen Drake London put up big scores when the team doesn't put
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up very many points at all overall, so I definitely think that's good.
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And then andrews all over it. That was the other interest I had here
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and works on ble draftings and fandueled that Atlanta d For some reason, I
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just keep landing on it in certain spots, and I'm fine with it,
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especially if you're pairing the two of those together. So I do like Beijon
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Robinson here. I actually don't have a lot of interest in much else based
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on the weather and whatnot that you brought up, But he would be the
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one guy. Anything else you want to tack onto that. If not,
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we can go to a dome game. We've got the Giants versus the Saints,
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and we are waiting on the Olave news. But like the early stuff
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that I saw today and what everybody's thinking is, it doesn't seem likely that
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we'll we'll see Alave. I just checked the updates. I don't see anything
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else there yet. But go ahead, go carry on, go with the
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next one. Yeah, not looking good for a Lave. I mean,
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in act is what we got about an hour and a half before we get
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the inn active. Wouldn't be surprised if he is inactive, and then you
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know, if he's out. You know, I think we've got two cheap
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wide receivers that you know come into the conversation and in Shaheed at forty three
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hundred and then at Perry at thirty five hundred. I mean they'll be the
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one and two super cheap. They're in a dome on a slate where we
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have a lot of weather. I mean there's four or five games with like
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rain win rain win combinations this time of year, playing in a dome can
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make a difference. A guy like Shaheed at forty three, I think is
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a phenomenal play. He's six k on FanDuel good in bowl spots, and
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then at Perry he's like forty six hundred on FanDuel thirty five hundred on DK.
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It's going to be out there. I mean, if they're passing the
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ball, he's going to be out there. So I'm interested in both of
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those guys tomorrow. It's a tough price range, and you know he's man
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his ownership again. He's another one of these guys where the ownership just has
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to come in pretty low regardless of you know, a lave being in or
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out. I mean, you have McCaffrey at ninety three, who's gonna get
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a ton of ownership. Karen Williams at seventy five hundred, that's gonna get
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a ton of ownership. There's just no way a guy like Kamara gets much
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on the slate if a lave's out. He's a guy I'll probably be adding
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to my playerpool just to get some I mean, just to get a little
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bit. He has two touchdown upside, he has ten catch up side.
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He's gonna he has to be like so much lower on than those previous two
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guys that I mentioned, And at the end of the day, he has
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very similar upside, very similar upside in a good matchup. So I will
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be getting some him, but it probably is contingent on a Lave status.
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I mean, but if a Lave's out, I mean, look at their
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offensive weapons. I mean, obviously they're gonna do some stupid shit with Tyson
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Hill, there's no doubt about that. But then Shaheed and Perry like,
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they're just gonna have to get the ball to Kamara. So I will be
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putting him in my player pool. If a Lave's out Giant side Waller is
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back, I'm not gonna really with him. I believe he's fully back,
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right, I thought I saw that yesterday. Yeah, Waller's back at forty
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forty four hundred, so yeah, okay, so officially questionable but expected to
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play. So I mean, I don't know, I'm not going to play
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him. I mean, the only piece on the Giant side that I'll play
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is probably Wandale Robinson for the same reason we've kind of talked about all season.
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Long where they're just actively try to get him the ball. We saw
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it last week. I think like seven, seven or eight targets for him.
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I just want to pull this up boom. Seven targets, yeah,
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for Robinson last week five four three, Like they just try to get him
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the ball, and that's important for a cheap pass catcher. And again in
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a dome, his game fits dome games, I think a little bit better.
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So I think he's a fine cheap wide receiver option, but really he's
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the only guy I'm going to play. On the Giant side. They just
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have all these wide receivers they mix in, and then now with with Waller
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in there as well, complicates the pass catching situation. So just wandale on
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the Giant side the cheap wide receivers. If a Lave's out and then Kamara
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has the Kamara squeeze is insane because it's like it's the way the pricing is
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too. Ninety three hundred for CMC, seventy five for Kieran Williams, and
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then him parked in the middle at eighty six hundred, you're gonna see thirty
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percent owned on either side of him, and then him sitting there at like
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five percent and just got it from Schefter. Now again, it's always got
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a little caveat to it, but says well, the Saints want to see
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how Chris o'lave's ankle feels in pregame warm ups. One source said there is
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doubt that the standout wide receiver plays today, so gonna wait and see what
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happens. But I just have at this point you have to almost assume he's
20:32
gonna be out and just build for that, or think about that when you're
20:34
going into your builds if you want to back up pieces, set up or
20:37
whatever. I like the the Shahid play that's there. I'm not as high
20:41
on the At Perry one. I will go take my at Perry shot on
20:45
the other side of this game. And I think it was our guy new
20:47
Ones brought it up. Mayo and I talked about this on the Friday Show.
20:51
Wandel Robinson's great because he's gonna get you, you know, six for
20:55
fifty and those count those rack up on a site like draftings PVR points.
20:57
It's awesome, but you also might have to wait all game for this.
21:00
But if Hyatt just gets that one seventy five yard touchdown like new one,
21:03
says like game over that beats that play. Would you really then need de
21:07
veto with Wandale with Hyatt? Probably not. Now you can get a zero
21:12
to Hiatt too, But I'm just saying I don't mind it. It's not
21:15
so much about the five hundred dollars savings and the lower ownership. It's about
21:18
the ceiling and upside. And that's what I'm saying for some of these larger
21:22
field tournaments especially. I know somebody asked earlier about what are some of these
21:25
leverage spots getting away from some of the safety, you know, floor type
21:30
plays that you just know Wondale's gonna get targets and rack up can get you
21:33
eleven. That can still come through for you. It can work and make
21:36
it happen. But sometimes taking that extra shot is where you say, if
21:38
I hadn't just done this or this two v two. A lot of it
21:41
does come down to that. We'll get to that more and some of these
21:44
other games. Saints D very expensive. I found it was a little bit
21:48
easier to land on over on FanDuel. I think it was like forty four
21:52
hundreds, just like a standard defense price versus on DraftKings. It's thirty eight
21:56
hundred. It's up the board quite away, so you're probably if you're going
21:59
all the way up, they're getting to other D's more on that in a
22:02
second. Actually, I got one that's right there underneath them that I have
22:04
some interest in, and then I don't think there was much else in this
22:08
one, the waller side of things, like people are talking about, I'm
22:11
just gonna wait and see, don't care. If he does enough to break
22:15
the slate and is needed and optimal and all that, then it's gonna be
22:18
a bad week for me. But I'm not too worried about it, just
22:21
coming back off IHR, so we'll see what ends up happening there. But
22:23
for me, the Kamara play the Saints Tean FanDuel Shaheed for sure, and
22:29
then also on the other side, Hyatt or Wandale leaning towards Hyatt in these
22:33
large field tournaments. That's sort of where I'm at. Moving on, well,
22:37
before we go to the next game, real quick, want to remind
22:40
you guys, we're giving away two three one month memberships, So who knows
22:45
what mood Hoop is in today. He's feeling a little bit under the weather.
22:47
But all were talking about kids that we talking about grandparents and granny's and
22:51
wheelchairs. You're talking at the heart strings with who knows what injuries, whatever
22:55
it might be. But put in the chat why you think or why you
23:00
want the membership? What why you why you deserve it on everybody else?
23:02
What's what it means to you? Throw that into the chat. We'll start
23:04
giving those away throughout the show. This all right, and then here here
23:07
I got it. I got a good one. Let's a little fun game
23:11
for the for the chat today to win. I just thought of it.
23:15
Obviously, a couple of people have noticed our boy, Title Town is not
23:18
here. This was you know, he told this weeks ago. He's not
23:19
going to be here. So put in the chat, what is title Town?
23:22
What did Titletown do last night? Why is he not here tonight?
23:26
What's the reason that title is missing today's show? And don't say it's because
23:30
he's hungover from watching mm yeah, that's not gonna watch. It's what he
23:33
does. It's his thing. Like you come up with something good, it's
23:37
more of a joke or a you know, something to throw out. I
23:40
like that type of stuff. So that's a good one. Okay. This
23:44
next game is Tennessee, Houston. I'll start on this one because I brought
23:47
it up earlier. So actually, Will Levis pops here, I know,
23:51
and just shut up to our guy DFS juice. He's already given away like
23:53
five monthly memberships. He's given away a six month membership, he gave away
23:56
three one. The guy's incredible gives back like crazy. I saw him just
24:02
tag us in the chat to give another one away. We'll save that,
24:03
we'll move it to something else. We appreciate it. But he's a Will
24:07
Levis truther, and he pops up here again. I will say it is
24:11
kind of interesting though, because, like Chig does pop in projections, DeAndre
24:15
Hopkins has been getting targets like crazy and coming through and really has something to
24:19
prove, and Levis has at least been serviceable in the most recent memory in
24:22
our mind. But I will note the Dereck Henry thing. It's not de
24:26
Hember stuff. It's not that. Remember the number one stat with this guy,
24:30
who besides all that BS is that if they're the favorite, or they're
24:34
winning or they're up, that's when you're seeing the most action out of him,
24:38
and that they are favored here at home by three and a half.
24:41
They're going against case Keenum on the other side, who we're also going to
24:44
talk about in a second who ended up being the starter, not Davis Mills
24:48
with Stroud out. So what are we doing here in this game? Because
24:51
it's another one thirty eight point total? But man, what's the most expensive
24:55
guy you can use? Is it Henry? Or is it how much?
24:59
Is hop six? No, he's less six. Henry is like the most
25:03
expensive guy you can use in this game. So that kind of leads towards
25:06
a thirty eight point total. And who cares? Yeah, I like the
25:10
Henry call, and you know, I don't think I have any and I
25:12
just made a note to add some and I think it makes sense here at
25:15
home as a favorite in December. I know everyone kind of overhypes the Henry
25:21
in December stuff, but it's fricking real. It appears to be real.
25:23
I mean, he kind of turns it on. And these are the spots
25:26
you want to him. There's a couple of comments earlier about Taj Spears,
25:30
and you know, I get it, but man, he's got to outscore
25:34
a lot of running backs in really good spots. Today there are six,
25:38
seven, eight, I'd say, like very stable concrete running back plays today.
25:45
He's got outscore two of those guys. I just don't think this is
25:48
the slate to play a guy like Spears. But I do like the Henry
25:52
call playing with the lead. He's gonna get the work, some pass catching
25:55
stuff, goal on multiple touchdown upside. Chig at twenty nine hundred, I
26:00
think he's a fine option. You know, DeAndre Hopkins. I like him
26:03
at sixty two. I mean the way they're using him, the short stuff,
26:07
Levis will just chuck it down the field to him, a lot of
26:10
upside. I think it's a good spot for the Titans today. I mean,
26:14
Houston's been kind of riding the CJ. Stroud heater, which he's been
26:17
phenomenal this season. He's out and case Keenum's in, tanked out out like
26:22
Nico Collins out, Like this is a decimated Texans team, Titans coming off
26:27
a big win against the Dolphins last week. Like, I think it's a
26:30
really good spot for the Titans to kind of impose their will in the spot.
26:37
I don't really want anything on the Texan side. I know Keenum is
26:40
four K, and people get excited about the four K quarterbacks. If you
26:44
go in and just you know, in the optimizer, just run, you
26:47
know, run one hundred and fifty teams, they're gonna get Case Keenum showing
26:48
up because he is four K shows us a good value, you know.
26:52
I just it's not for me on the slate. Nothing is really for me
26:56
on the slate. On the Texan side, it's going to be about the
27:00
Titans, who I think get the job done here is going to be Derek
27:03
Henry, it's gonna be DeAndre Hopkins. It's going to be chigged for cheap.
27:06
And I like them all quite a bit. On that Titan sid,
27:08
I think it's just a really good spot for the Titans here today. I
27:11
like both sides. So this is the first one a little bit. Yeah,
27:15
the Keenum side. One thing is that it definitely got more condensed and
27:19
cheap. So if you want to jam all the other studs and you just
27:22
think you're gonna get those thirty thirty point plus performances, I was gonna say,
27:26
out of these guys, I think you get Derek Henry to speed it
27:29
up. On the other side, you can get Case Keenum, our boy
27:30
Ham likes a little Metchi. You can play Hutchinson, who's got the backup
27:36
connection with Keenum and Noah Brown, is still super cheap. Like I said,
27:38
all the plays in this game are very cheap, so realistically people also
27:42
have to think about that. When we talked about, oh, but the
27:45
totals aren't good, well, this is six points better than that game earlier,
27:48
and the most expensive guy you can play is sixty eight hundred. In
27:52
my eyes, at least, that's how I'm looking at. That's where I'm
27:55
at with it, so not going crazy with it, but definitely in the
27:57
mix for sure doing it that way. I also like going Henry with the
28:03
Titans. D I mentioned earlier about if people are gonna pay up for the
28:04
Saints, but it's the same FanDuel and DraftKings. At least if on DraftKings,
28:07
if I was paying up for thirty seven hundred for Tennessee, it's doubling
28:11
down now because I think on DraftKings is where you see people play case Keenum
28:15
at four thousand. Not saying it's gonna get out of hand, but that's
28:18
a chunk of line. I'm so let's say he gets to five to ten
28:21
percent range because he's cheap and makes everything work well, now I got the
28:23
defense against that. And it goes with Derrick Henry. And like we said,
28:27
the way Dereck Henry has a big game is if they're up, winning
28:30
ahead, that would mean more opportunity. And I think a guy like case
28:33
Keenum could still chuck it around. So definitely like that. I like the
28:37
Hopkins and Chig plays. I mean it does still pop in our stack rankings,
28:41
so I don't mind that you could run it back our guys. Smarty
28:42
said same, He's going with ham here Mechi breakout day Mechi's cheap. Also
28:48
on both sides FanDuel and DraftKings, I think people are playing Hutchinson at the
28:52
stone minimum three K price point. So lots of ways that you can go
28:56
within this game. We're getting some funny title in there too. I do
29:00
want to say happy birthday to Darren Kosteki, he said, birthday shipper incoming.
29:03
We hope the best for you, man, Happy birthday to you.
29:07
Have any of these comments stand out for you A couple, Like there's a
29:11
couple. Can I present you with a couple? Then you how about I
29:14
present you with the couple? All right? That I stood up to me
29:15
and then you make the final decision between there's two that I really like,
29:21
okay, and they're complete opposite directions. The first one, which I did
29:26
like, is it ties into long standing joke on the show where the guy
29:30
said that he had to sell his grandma's wheelchair or something. So Nick puts
29:36
in Title went to buy grandma new wheelchairs. So that's something that's kind of
29:40
inside joke with the show. Title is a very generous, nice guy,
29:44
like he's looking out for people. So this is a possibility, right,
29:48
and then next comment kind of time, I'm gonna stop you and say blind
29:52
call. On the second one, automatic winner goes to whatever you're about to
29:56
pull up? We played that joke out, okay, okay, okay,
30:02
like this, so's your your boy Kenny Kim. You know he's telling some
30:06
good stories. So he said, Title is hanging with Kenny Kim doing blow
30:10
off strippers booties and made his way to Denny's from Moon's over my Hammy.
30:15
So that's a that's a good one, is it? Realist? Title does
30:19
like to party. I know that I've hung the title future doing that.
30:26
He's not doing this sort of thing. Yeah that's not happening, but it's
30:30
still the winner. I'm over the grandma's wheelchair joke. You did do a
30:34
good job playing at hoop's heart strings on something that. Oh that's good of
30:38
funny. I'll remember that one. But the winner is definitely Trevor. So
30:41
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31:29
Found some great lineups, win some satellite tickets. Things like that. You
31:33
were close, Nick, keep trying, man, always come back. These
31:36
shows are free. You could put another effort in next time. You did
31:38
have the right idea pulling on Hoop's heart strings, but for a bad dad
31:42
joke. That's like the joke though, Like I like that was a funny,
31:47
funny comments inside joke with the show. Like it's you know, I
31:49
don't want that to go away. You might want it to go away.
31:52
I don't want it to go away. I want Grahma's wheelchair to stay around.
31:56
The first time was hilarious. The second time we kept it going.
31:59
The third now we're off it. So we're moving on. We're off this.
32:01
We're moving on to the next game as well. Chicago Cleveland. Last
32:07
week, what was the last couple weeks everyone was dying for us to talk
32:08
about Flacco. I don't hear no one mentioned him, mentioning him anymore after
32:13
in Djoku just absolutely smashed last week and crushed it. What's your thoughts here?
32:16
Chicago and Cleveland? In Cleveland, by the way, so tough,
32:21
tough place to go in and play. Yeah, not a spot for me.
32:23
Like Cleveland's defense, I respect, and I just don't. I don't
32:27
like targeting players against their defense, especially in Cleveland. And then we have
32:30
a little weather here. Starts out so what so it's going to rain and
32:37
then there's some some wind as well. Just does not seem like a good
32:42
spot for fantasy players. I'll be fading the Chicago side and I'll be in
32:46
on Elijah Moore as a relatively cheap wide receiver forty five hundred for more good
32:53
connection with with Flacco just continues to get a lot of targets. I mean
32:58
nine to twelve, only six last week, But man, I'm gonna I'm
33:01
gonna go back to Elijah Moore at forty five hundred is a cheap wide receiver
33:06
and you know, to be honest with you, that's that's it for me
33:08
in this game. I got nothing else. Yeah. The one thing is
33:10
I do go against our stack rankings on one spot every week, and this
33:15
must be it this week because I do like the Justin Field stack. It's
33:19
just easy to get to. I know it's not completely down the board,
33:21
but he can run all over them. I think skinny stacks work well,
33:23
like if you just want to play fields with more or fields with comet.
33:28
I know More was also q tag, but sixty nine hundred bucks he's still
33:30
pretty valuable, I think in this spot. So I can go with that
33:34
if you want to play somebody on the other side, Amari Cooper or Elijah
33:37
Moore or in joke. I'm not going crazy and overstacking this game. But
33:40
I think, like you said, our guy a f gator right here,
33:43
fields is a fantasy monster. He could just get running all over them.
33:46
So if you went like a fields with more and in Joku, I would
33:52
actually be okay with that. I mean, you know, people are talking
33:53
about the running backs here in this game too. Ford kind of did pop
33:57
up a little bit, but man, it's again there's so many running backs
34:00
on this slave just makes it pretty tough to get to the defense. For
34:04
Cleveland a little bit banged up here, but thirty five hundred bucks to get
34:07
to them, like it is just a tough spot, I think. Who
34:09
So I kind of agree with you on that. We'll see if anybody else
34:14
pulls anything up on it. But you know, the weather is bad too,
34:15
like you said, just reading it off Roth's report, it says starts
34:19
wet might see some clearing by the second half a bit breezy as well,
34:22
especially early sustained wins fifteen to twenty miles per hour GUS twenty five, dipping
34:27
to a lesser issue in the second half. So not crazy, but it's
34:30
bad enough, and it's just again, it's really tough spot. So I'm
34:32
really thinking the skinny stacks here are the way to play it, So you
34:36
know, I like that, like a Fields comet or a Fields more double
34:39
tight end comet and djoku. I think it's possible as well, so I'm
34:43
not against that, But other than that, not too much here. Who
34:45
let's move on. Let's go Jets in Moon's over Miami, Miami Dolphins.
34:51
It's in Miami there. It's like our guy Trevor had earlier. Not sure
34:53
what the rest of the actions the title is up to, but let's talk
34:57
about this one, Jets Miami. I know we're waiting on the Tyreek news,
35:00
but in my head, I'm treated as if he's gonna be in.
35:04
He battled through a last game, even a bunch anyway, trying to make
35:07
it happen. So yeah, there's just just a report too came out.
35:09
It sounds like there's some optimism that he's gonna play, and it's for the
35:13
reason the reasons I thought him he's having this record breaking season, Like he's
35:16
not gonna want to sit out, He's gonna want to get you know,
35:20
add on to some of those points so or statistics that he's already you know,
35:23
had so far the season. So I think he plays. We'll see.
35:27
I mean, we'll get the full word basically within an hour. But
35:30
I'm operating under the assumption he's in. And if that's the case, like,
35:34
there's just not much for me on the Miami side. I guess,
35:36
you know, if a chain's out, we could potentially take a look at
35:38
most her So that is still pretty important news. But man, with with
35:43
Tyreek in, there's just not much I want here. I just don't necessarily
35:46
want to play. It just doesn't sound like he's one hundred percent and he
35:49
can still get the job done at less than one hundred percent. Don't get
35:52
me wrong, but I'm not gonna have much of him or to h I
35:55
mean, this game is mostly like a cross off for me. Garrett Wilson.
36:00
I think it's fine fifty eight hundred. You know, it's been much
36:02
better with Zach Wilson. Another game that does have some rain, does have
36:07
some wind. It's just not a very good spot. Now. If you
36:10
know this report reverses course and Tyreek hills out, then I do want some
36:15
of these Miami guys Jalen Waddles, Cedric Wilson, Burrios, they'd all enter
36:21
my player pool today. But with Tyreek Ginn, this game is mostly a
36:24
fade for me. Outside of like Garrett Wilson, there's just not much here
36:30
for me. You said this game is most Leah Crossoff, But no,
36:34
there's your guy, right you gott yeah at seventy one hundred. I mean
36:38
it's a spot though, right, and favored by eight at home, Like
36:42
I like the Jets DA twenty five hundred. If you're not playing anything else
36:45
in this game, it's not like if people think when you play the d
36:47
like you're expecting a shutout or something like, there's no way they can stop
36:51
them. They are getting Armstead back, they are getting their other guy.
36:53
I think it's Liam Jackson back. They're online has been a little bit in
36:57
shambles. Obviously, they're center Williams going down for the season last week did
37:00
not help them. Everyone was making the Tyreek MVP jokes like this is the
37:04
biggest case for why he is the MVP, because they can't move the ball
37:07
without I mean, the O line was literally in shambles. That was the
37:09
bigger part of the issue I think than anything else. But still, you
37:14
know, even with him playing as I expect him to do so, I
37:17
don't have interest at the price tag that he's at. If you were playing
37:21
him, I think you'd want to get in on the action with Tua,
37:23
like hope that it's just a Tyreek must have game of like fifty points that's
37:28
gonna pull Tua along, and then that could be different. For if that
37:30
helps you get there, I'm happy you got it. I won't be trying
37:32
it, but I do see it as that perspective. If I was going
37:36
to go there, I like the most dirt play, especially a chans out.
37:38
He's seventy one hundred. Not many people getting there can play him on
37:42
FanDuel maybe gets a couple of touchdowns something like that. To both sides,
37:45
no problem with him. Garrett Wilson, on the other side, did not
37:50
really get the price boost right. He's fifty eight hundred, I believe,
37:52
and last week was pretty nuts like bringing Wilson back and just ended up being
37:57
a fourteen target game nine for to wait, wouldn't hate it again if you
38:01
just land there someone like him Mayo and I played around with Conklin in some
38:07
builds on Friday where he's just thirty one hundred. You just land there.
38:09
It's fine. Some of them landed on him and the defense and you just
38:13
say, maybe the defense can get some picks, put them in short yardage.
38:15
You get that play where it's a Conklin touchdown and it does enough to
38:19
help you out. But again, not much of a ceiling that I see
38:22
there either, So I don't have a ton of great info on this one.
38:24
Are great ideas, but I do think if I just happen to land
38:28
on the Jets d at twenty five hundred, I'm more than okay with that
38:30
and just hope to get a few spots here throughout the game. Kind of
38:34
the same thing when we get into the next one, case New England up
38:37
next, the last of the morning games. Who what do you got here?
38:40
Chiefs at the Patriots low total for a Chiefs game for sure thirty seven.
38:45
Yeah, it's kind of the games they've been playing all season, and
38:49
we talked about it, you know, right from the you know, early
38:51
on week two, three, four, where they're fine, just win these
38:53
these nasty games. Offense is not as explosive as it depend. You know,
38:59
in terms of this game, no Pacheco. You know, Edwards Slayer
39:02
didn't get the job done last week. I'll still go back to him today,
39:07
just for a little bit because they are playing with the lead. I
39:09
think he's the guy that they use in these situations. How effective can he
39:15
be? I don't know. I mean it's it's Clyde Edwards Hilayer, but
39:17
I will mix him in a little bit. Rashid Rice should be pretty popular.
39:22
I mean he's on the field a ton now. They don't have any
39:25
wide receivers. He's clearly their their wide receiver one and appears to be developing
39:30
some chemistry with Patrick Mahomes and then Travis Kelcey at at tight end. Should
39:36
be low oaned on both sides. I'll be looking to get some exposure to
39:39
him, but I'm gonna be with you though today. You know, never
39:43
Mahomes in terms of uh, you know, GPPs quarterback players. I'm not
39:46
gonna be on Mahomes today by any means. I prefer a lot of other
39:50
quarterbacks over him. He'd be far down the list in terms of guys I
39:53
want to play at that position. On the Patriots side, think it definitely
39:58
makes sense to go right back to Zeke. Twenty nine touches last week,
40:00
twenty nine, that's a big boy number. They really didn't mix anyone else
40:04
in and it was like seven or eight catches. Like so it's game script
40:08
proof stuff where if they're playing from behind, he's gonna be out there racking
40:12
up PPR points. If they're at the goal line, he's getting to carry.
40:15
Everything in between is going to Zeke. Really strong option today. It
40:20
will be popular, but again, like there's a lot of other running back
40:23
plays that we can play today to get different, he will be popular.
40:27
I want exposure to him. Tomorrio Douglas thirty nine hundred, fine getting to
40:31
him, and then I've been I think, pretty good, pretty good record
40:36
this year on these random tight ends. Hunter Henry. I like Hunter Henry
40:38
again today at thirty two hundred. So I do like some pieces here.
40:43
You know, the one that's going to be pretty highly earned too. I
40:45
mean, Rashid Rice is going to be popular, Zeke is going to be
40:49
popular. Not too worried though about anyone else in this game. So I
40:52
like it quite a bit. What about Douglas, I like Douglas quite Yeah,
40:55
yeah for sure, Yeah yeah, thirty nine hundred. I think he's
41:00
I know, he's picking up some late steam here now it's just the way
41:01
it goes. But realistically, how popular can Zeke and him both be?
41:07
And I think people definitely still lean Zeke. He looks to be getting the
41:09
actual ownership here, so we'll see. But I got lineups where I actually
41:14
played try for the triple differ. You play de Mario Douglas, pop Douglas
41:19
with Zeke Elliott and the Patriots defense and just hope they get after it here
41:23
against my never mahomes. This is the complete opposite side of it and what
41:27
I want to get after it with hope that he makes the mistakes on the
41:30
road in vog like this is a spot where Zeke could score a couple of
41:35
touchdowns, Demario Douglas could get a few, you know, another good game
41:38
of like five catches for eighty or something. At thirty nine hundred. That's
41:42
fine, and then the D does just enough at twenty three hundred where it
41:45
all goes together. If you get lucky on other stuff, then great.
41:47
But I like the New England D here at home at twenty three hundred.
41:51
Again, Kansas City's gonna put up points. You're not gonna get a shutout.
41:53
You're looking for opportunities and mistakes to be made. I don't. It's
41:58
not my favorite, but it's definitely one of my favorites down low and who
42:00
cares. Like, if you're spending the money on defense, you're probably losing
42:04
out somewhere else. We have enough value at all these other we have enough
42:07
value. We don't have enough value I should say at all these other positions
42:09
today where I want to pay up in some of these spots like at running
42:13
back and at wide receiver. Get off all these value guys where I want
42:16
to get my value down at defense instead. So That's where I'm going with
42:21
that one. Anything else with this one? Who if not? We got
42:23
the afternoon, guys. We got three games in the afternoon, and we'll
42:27
start with the one that everyone wants to talk about, I think is the
42:30
Washington LA game, which sounds crazy when there's Dallas in Buffalo on the afternoon
42:35
slate, but with Stafford getting all the love, Kieran Williams being probably the
42:37
most popular play on the slate at seventy five hundred. Just want to get
42:42
your thoughts on this one. First, Washington La starting off the afternoon games.
42:46
Yeah, so you know, I'll start on the Rams side and Matthew
42:51
Stafford is going to get some ownership today, There's no doubt about it.
42:53
Six K on DK, seven to two on FanDuel. But the one thing
42:59
I've said for years and it remains true. I mean it remains true.
43:01
Almost every single slate, full slate, like quarterback position gets spread out.
43:06
It always gets spread out more than people think. So if you like a
43:08
quarterback, just play them. If they're going to get more ownership than you
43:14
get, you're comfortable with, do some different things, potentially overstack the game,
43:19
potentially play a low owned pass catcher. But Stafford's in a phenomenal spot
43:23
that their offense is kind of rolling now, and it's no coincidence that it
43:28
lines up with Cooper Cup basically being fully healthy and he has two weapons now,
43:31
Cup Nikia and Higbee as well. I want some exposure to Higbee multiple
43:36
touchdown upside for sure. At thirty six hundred, DeMarcus Robinson getting a lot
43:42
of work out of nowhere essentially thirty thirty six hundred for him to too at
43:45
well is going to be out again. Robinson will be out there. I
43:49
just want to see ten targets last week for DeMarcus Robinson passing the ball a
43:52
ton. I think all those guys are strong options. I think it's a
43:55
spot where you can, you know, doubles, whatever you want to do.
44:00
There's a lot of different ways to go about playing rams guys today.
44:04
Kiaren Williams on DK is gonna be very popular. It's a bad price tag
44:07
seventy five hundred on FanDuel. They actually did a really good job. They
44:10
got him at ninety six, and I think he comes in not low owned,
44:15
but lower own than what people are thinking. Because everyone's just going to
44:19
go to McCaffrey over there. Everyone's going to go much cheaper. We have
44:22
a bunch of guys that you can play in the six K range five K
44:24
range, So I think Kieren Williams has a chance to go a little overlooked
44:28
on FanDuel. So I think he's a strong playover their DK. He's going
44:31
to be popular, So a lot of different ways to go about it.
44:35
With the Rams on the commander side, No Brian Robinson. Antonio Gibson hops
44:42
right into the main role and he's This game fits Antonio Gibson perfectly, where
44:46
he's a guy that can just rack up a lot of catches. If they're
44:49
playing from behind, he'll probably get some goal line work early on. I
44:53
think he's a really strong option today. The price is better on FanDuel,
44:58
but the fifty two price two hundred dollars price in DK is solid as well
45:01
because of his ability to go ahead and just rack up a bunch of catches.
45:05
Sam Howell, Terry McLaurin, Donson, Samuel, this is a game
45:08
that you can do a lot of different things. I mean a lot overstack,
45:13
I mean whatever you want to do here. I think this is a
45:15
probably the most dynamic game on the slate in terms of what you can actually
45:19
do, in terms of the ownership, in terms of the sheer number of
45:22
plays in this game is just very high. So this is a game I
45:27
want a lot of exposure to and basically at every position, I want the
45:30
quarterbacks, I want the running backs. I want the wide receivers, I
45:32
want the tight ends. I want a lot of this game. Yeah,
45:35
you can play almost everybody here, and it's all how you play, and
45:37
that's all go through In a second. Just one note Jason brought up,
45:40
I did forget this in the last game. I actually don't hate that either,
45:44
McKinnon. Not just because what he said is funny, but it's true
45:46
the wide receivers can't catch. But this is the time of year. We
45:49
saw it last week. We start to see a little bit more action on
45:52
him, So I'm fine with McKinnon there. And then this is what Hoop
45:54
just mentioned. Like our guy Nick, great dude, always in here,
45:57
but like hal Stack forgetting right away, he says, no, never mind,
46:00
I see much more ownership than anticipate. You can just play him if
46:04
you want to. He's half the ownership of Stafford, and you say,
46:07
like, oh, but he's still ten percent owned. But the point would
46:09
be how owned is Curtis Samuel, how owned is Dotson? How owned is
46:14
Logan Thomas. You can stack that up plenty of ways, And if you're
46:16
not playing Gibson, even if you were playing Gibson, you could play him
46:20
in there too. But my point is Gibson's gonna get some ownership so that
46:22
there would be some leverage to that as well. Again, people doing these,
46:27
I'm gonna play this guy, but oh, I just saw his ownership
46:29
as eleven percent. I can't now that. You're just it's a huge leak
46:31
in your game, not just you Nick, just everybody out there. It's
46:35
not coming at you directly, it's saying that people doing that. That's why
46:37
you're probably having challenges throughout and not finding stuff because you're going off stuff you
46:42
actually like and care about and want because you saw an ownership number on a
46:46
website or on a piece of page. It's important to know it. But
46:50
you can get different in other places. There's lots of stuff you can do.
46:52
If you watch our review shows every week with the optimal lineup and the
46:55
winning lineup, almost always the same theme is we were in the right place
47:00
and a lot of those stuff still a lot of that stuff still hit.
47:02
But maybe it was a Mooney instead of a DJ more, or maybe it
47:07
was a Waddle instead of a Tyreek week or something along those lines. But
47:10
lots of places you can go within these and you don't have to avoid just
47:14
because of a number on a piece of paper. So keep that in mind.
47:15
Like Hoop said, get spread out a ton. Hopefully that's helpful to
47:20
you and some others out there that always are thinking like that. That's definitely
47:22
something you can move off of. But going back to it, Hoop,
47:24
like Yo, Dotson, Curtis, Samuel, Logan, Thomas very cheap on
47:29
both sides. He can rack up targets there. I don't no problem with
47:30
that. I like your Higbee call. We just saw Laporta get three touchdowns
47:36
last night. It feels like Higbee could do something similar with a couple of
47:37
touchdowns. I also think of an interesting way to use Stafford today would be
47:44
Stafford, Kieran Williams, Higbee, no Cup, no Nikoo. We have
47:50
all those value receivers in the middle get Oh, but Stafford's so popular you
47:52
can't play him. Oh yeah, you're playing him, but you're playing him
47:55
with the running back that he could check down to in the end zone or
47:58
from where anywhere for that matter, And you're playing them with the tight end
48:00
that could rack up two of those touchdowns. And then you're seventy eight and
48:05
seventy three hundred dollars wide receivers and Cup in Nakua may not be needed because
48:08
it's just a bunch of PPR points racking up. Of course you're stacking them
48:12
up in some of those together. I don't think this is super unique.
48:15
It's very easy, very affordable to fit. It doesn't mean it's wrong or
48:19
right. I'm saying that it can definitely be easy to do. Like you
48:21
can get to Stafford Cup Nikua Gibson lineups for example, very very easily.
48:25
So lots of different ways that you can go about it. You can also
48:30
just play a piece in this game if you're not on it at all,
48:31
you could play like Kieran Williams and the Rams d Sam Houseros of All four.
48:36
So I'm saying that, I mean there is like so many different ways
48:39
to play this game. I mean, honestly, it's one of the more
48:42
i'd say dynamic games like of the season. Like there's so many ways to
48:46
go about playing this game, like so many different ways. And yeah,
48:50
like people look at it and say, oh, this guy's gonna be this
48:52
so and this guy's going to be that own you just lay it out a
48:53
perfect example to be very different from the field, like playing Stafford, Williams
49:00
and Higbee. Yeah, I can certainly get there, and it does,
49:04
and then you know what happens. Everyone complains all the chalk just smashed.
49:07
The go look through the lineup combinations of the entire twenty dollars million maker and
49:13
tell me how many people played Stafford with Kieran Williams and Higbee together. It's
49:17
not like it's gonna be some miniscule number. I'm just saying it's much less
49:21
owned as that combination than it is of any version of the others that we
49:25
already talked about, where a lot of people are playing Williams and then picking
49:29
one of Nkua and Cup or playing skip the game of Williams Chock and skip
49:34
two, Cup and Nikoua or one only or something like that, or Cup
49:37
and Higbee in that way, there's a way you can do it and set
49:40
it up different to make it out the other way. Davis Allen more in
49:44
play before we got Higbee back. I think we'll see. But Robinson definitely
49:47
another guy that you can go to a cheap piece in this game. That
49:50
again, I don't know what you see on him for ownership hoop. I'm
49:52
gonna look it up real quick while we're here. But DeMarcus Robinson thirty six
49:59
D, I mean, yeah, he's a solid play. It's looking like,
50:01
I don't know, twelve, maybe fifteen percent. And I don't even
50:05
know if I believe that. There's just so many other either. I don't
50:08
think that many people click the name. It's been one week since you got
50:10
all those targets, Like, it's not like it's been happening for three weeks.
50:14
I think more eight nine tennis would be my guest in terms of ownership,
50:19
right, And so then you're gonna see on the review when it's like
50:21
Stafford at his big ownership, you see a guy like you know, Higbee
50:24
at no ownership, DeMarcus Robinson maybe at eight to twelve. It's like,
50:29
oh, the chalk just smashed. It's like maybe maybe you think that,
50:31
but it's not really chalk to me. Ninety percent of the field possibly not
50:35
playing. Yeah, and Well is out. So that's why we're talking about
50:38
Robinson, just to just to clarify. Yeah, the other thing too,
50:43
someone mentioned that Sean just brought it up here. I heard someone bring this
50:45
up yesterday too. That was a good note because we're leaning into the second
50:49
of the three games in the afternoon. Here, there's some good tournaments out
50:52
there for the early only slate if you want to get some action in on
50:55
that today and then not have to do the wait and see game on all
50:58
this stuff in the afternoon, or feel like you're ahead and get crushed from
51:01
behind or vice versa or whatever it is, or have to sit away at
51:04
the back and hope to come out like there's a lot going on in the
51:07
morning. It's a really good early only slate to play. Also, you
51:09
could say it the other way, it's a good late swap slate because in
51:12
the afternoon, well, we know this is a game that people love.
51:15
Not a lot of people can get to Dallas, Buffalo, you know,
51:16
San Francisco, Arizona only has so much interest, probably secondary to this one.
51:22
So we can move on. If you guys have any other questions or
51:23
thoughts on that first game, you can let us know. Very very hurtful.
51:28
On the likes today, almost six hundred watching only. Let me see
51:31
here right now, I'll refresh you just to give you the benefit of the
51:34
doubt. Okay, almost two hundred likes. When we get to two fifty,
51:37
we're gonna give away one hundred dollars to a member. Keep letting us
51:39
know in the chat for the free membership YU, and we'll get to that.
51:44
We got one more to give away before the end of the show.
51:45
I have a confession, man, I have a confession. What is it?
51:50
I'm adding to the number right now. I forgot to hit the like,
51:52
oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. So now we're at one ninety five.
51:55
So I helped out the chat there hoops under the weather. We'll give
52:00
the benefit of the doubt here, but let's move it along. Let's go
52:04
to this next one here. This is interesting because a couple thoughts on it.
52:07
But San Francisco Arizona. The spread started close to two touchdowns. It's
52:10
come down to is I think eleven in some places eleven and a half I've
52:15
seen, so it's moving the other way. There's talks about you know,
52:17
Kyler and McBride, and they're getting healthier on that side. They're off a
52:21
bye. It's the spot where, uh, you know, maybe it's like
52:24
their super Bowl, like just do anything they can to hold San Francisco into
52:29
this game. But San Francisco scheduled to put up thirty plus points, So
52:31
give me thoughts on this game here San Francisco, Arizona forty eight and a
52:36
half point total. By the way, I think it's a very easy situation
52:38
to read on San Francisco. I mean, I think it's just very easy
52:42
to read and very easy to determine what you should do with this game,
52:45
Like especially on DK Christian McCaffrey ninety three hundred dollars way too cheap. There's
52:52
no denying that that's a bad price. Tike, he's gonna get twenty fantasy
52:54
points with the upside to absolutely nuke the slate. Everyone knows it, everyone's
53:00
gonna play it. They're projected to score thirty. All the other guys are
53:05
coming in low owned prety not low. Again, when we talk about quarterbacks,
53:08
it's ownership with quarterbacks that doesn't matter. But Deebo, who's nuke slate's
53:15
pretty low owned. Hey Yuk, who's nuke slates pretty low owned. George
53:19
Kittle, who has the ability to nuke a slate low owned? Do you
53:22
want to get different on the forty nine ers side, Just stack up Purty
53:25
with some of these pass catchers and you're immediately pretty darned different because everyone's just
53:30
gonna jam McCaffrey, which I'm gonna have a shit ton of McCaffrey today.
53:34
I'm sure you're gonna have a shit ton of McCaffrey today, Like there's no
53:37
doubt about that. But getting exposure to the passing game I think makes a
53:42
ton of sense. Highest team total on the slate. Could it not be
53:45
McCaffrey today. It could be similar to last week and McCaffrey still gets his
53:49
twenty, but Deebo goes off. He doesn't get the touchdowns. You know,
53:52
the other guys get the touchdowns. So I want heavy exposure to the
53:55
passing game on the forty niner side. I think it makes a ton of
53:59
sense. It's just a easy, easy read on this one now in terms
54:02
of what you do on the cardinal side. You know, McBride is the
54:05
clear guy that that people go to love him. I mean the workload's massive.
54:08
I mean you look at the other pass catchers, you know it's him
54:13
over all those other guys, Michael Wilson, Rondell Moore, Greg dorch Mark.
54:19
It's tough to click. You got someone. No, it's just so
54:21
hard to figure out why. It's like it's Mahomes Junior situation where you got
54:28
to try and figure all that out, Like that's just just give me McBride,
54:30
I guess, and then like that's good enough. On the other side,
54:32
I don't want to mess with any of those other guys. Really.
54:36
I mean, if I'm going to click one, it's probably Michael Wilson,
54:38
to be honest with you, because it seems like he's the one that you
54:42
know, gets these red zone targets and whatnot, So it would probably be
54:45
Michael Wilson. But I don't feel comfortable about it. Just give me McBride.
54:47
On the other side, what about this though, ultimate leverage play the
54:52
party passing stack with James Connor twenty five attempts last week, a couple of
54:57
touchdowns. They got to keep Purty off the field, like it's got to
55:00
be the way to go. There's not much competition on that side. They
55:04
are at home. He gets targets too. He's fifty seven hundred, one
55:07
hundred bucks less than Zeke. Is there any option here to take a flyer
55:12
on a guy like James Connor and just risk it because he's also opposite of
55:15
McCaffrey too, so you're kind of double leveraging going the passing stack and using
55:19
him on the other side instead. You know my answer to that question,
55:23
and you know, I I get it if if you want to do it
55:27
should be super low. But I kind of just go back to the same
55:30
talking point with these running backs, like, in order for James Connor to
55:34
be the guy today, he's got to outscore seven or other eight guys in
55:38
really really good spots. And he's in a tough spot here against the forty
55:43
nine ers forty nine ers defense, but it's got to be I mean,
55:46
he's got to be super low on today. So if yeah, you're no
55:50
owners his way, he's between into that sort of thing. Yeah, if
55:53
you're into that sort of thing, then yeah, I mean it's going to
55:57
be very low low home play. But it's not for me, which I'm
56:00
sure you knew when you pose that question what my answer is going to be.
56:04
But I'm thinking again, it's I'm not saying, oh, get James
56:07
Connor into your playerpool because he's a great play. I'm saying specific lineup,
56:12
specifically built lineup, Jill, not who you play, it's how you play
56:15
him in that spot. I'm doubling down on the leverage. If I think
56:20
for some reason Arizona can keep this game a little closer. Well, how
56:22
do they do that? What happens? That's what I have to think of
56:25
it, Like, how could that happen? You know, there's no way
56:29
Deebo can do it three weeks in a row. It's a good combat.
56:30
I mean, it's a good comment because that's what people are thinking, and
56:34
his ownership is aligning with the mindset that he can't do it three in a
56:37
row. That it has to be McCaffrey today. Right, that's what everyone's
56:40
thinking today, that they're favored by twelve McCaffrey's ninety three hundred. It just
56:45
has to be McCaffrey today. Now, Yeah, it definitely could be McCaffrey
56:49
today, There's no doubt about it. But at like eight nine percent on
56:53
Deebo and Auck and Kittle, I'll be on that side too, for sure.
56:59
Yeah, I just want to see here, just a couple of notes
57:01
coming in, but I didn't see any other updates. I'll keep an eye
57:04
on it. But yeah, good, good point that you brought up there.
57:07
I also think that the other thing was too There was something else with
57:12
this game. I was gonna say the overstack, but oh the other thing
57:15
about it. Okay, forget my James Connor one. You don't like that.
57:19
You feel better about McBride, but you think that they can keep it
57:21
a little bit closer. Let's say you stack it out Purty, Ayuk and
57:24
Debo. It's not that much different. It's a little bit more, I
57:29
think, but it's not that much different than the Stafford Nikua Cup stack.
57:34
Right, It's almost the same pretty much. And then I know you can
57:37
get Curing in and that's much less than getting CMC into the Stafford stack,
57:42
which makes it very possible. So you actually even get more money to spend
57:45
around and play with, but can't fade Joe Montana at sixty eight hundred bucks.
57:49
I'm sure you've heard the narratives out there and this guy so sixty eight
57:52
hundred dollars Joe Montana rock Purty, that is I'm going there. I do
57:57
like that. I'm gonna think it through more. I also think I might
58:00
overstack in some spots here where it is like those three and then McBride and
58:07
Connor and just have the Arizona keeps it tight game and still stay the party
58:10
side with those two receivers, because the other thing is when you go to
58:14
the purty side and leave CMC out of it, you do get to do
58:19
the angle I talked about earlier hoop, which is where I land in that
58:22
like beautiful sixty five hundred to seventy two hundred dollars range of running backs,
58:28
and I can just load them up and cycle through and you're kidding, like,
58:31
just leverage on leverage on leverage here in this spot. If you do
58:35
something like that, I just it's hard to leave Kieran Williams out at that
58:38
point. Again, I think you can get away with it, though,
58:40
Like if I'm not playing cup Nikua higbe Man, I want to play Rams
58:45
today no matter what. Like these this spot is just too good. So
58:49
I think that's what I'll probably have to do, is if I go that
58:51
way, use Kieran Williams, but still balance it out with two other low
58:55
owned running backs. One of them could be James Connor, one of them
58:59
could be someone else. I definitely think, and this is just never true.
59:01
I hate stuff like this. There's nothing. That's why we're talking about
59:07
process and roster construction. I said this earlier today in our discord. People
59:10
talking about all these things. Nobody knows, nobody has any idea. It's
59:15
way easier to know what the field is doing in DFS than what's going to
59:19
happen on the field. The DFS field easier to figure out than the football
59:22
field and the games that are actually happening. Focus on that. Don't worry
59:27
about do or no way this can happen, or oh but he just did
59:30
this, it can't happen again. All those things don't matter. We're playing
59:32
DFS totally different. Yeah, we've had some more comments this year black mass
59:38
media, like, come on, we expect better out of you. Yeah,
59:42
the do thing. Hey, he was due for a bad comment.
59:45
We will say that. Appreciate this apart though we love it. I just
59:49
anything can happen in anytime. You're right, it's not a do thing though,
59:52
it's not. You know, people do this all the time. Oh,
59:54
of course he had a bad game because he got ownership. He was
59:57
twenty five percent owned. Yeah, he realized he was twenty five percent owned
1:00:00
on DraftKings dot com and had a horrible game because of that. That's why
1:00:06
it's not how it works. Let's move on, guys. We got over
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the two hundred and fifty likes. We got to sixty five. So someone
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said the the bot get activated, the bot would have us at fifteen hundred
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by now or something. So we have not seen the bot since that one
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week that Hoop wasn't on the show. So Hoop is the yeah for sure,
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and this is just never keep waiting around for this, my friend,
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this will be I think it's like two and a half years now or something.
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And it was one time and then you still didn't have it if you
1:00:35
had one hundred and fifty line ups because the guys that got there with them.
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So no, not due for that. Let's let's move on. Let's
1:00:40
talk about this Dallas Buffalo game. And we do need to find a member
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to win. It's always the hardest one, Hoop because everybody, I feel
1:00:47
like, uh so many giveaways, A lot of these members have won it.
1:00:52
Just who wins today? I got I got one, I already got
1:00:55
one. What do you got? It's gonna be our guy rich to one
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one too. I don't think he's won anything. Founding family member, it's
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his forty fifth birthday today, forty fifth birthday, so we like that.
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We want to celebrate birthdays, milestones, all that sort of stuff. Forty
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the next minute after the one month memberships we give away on the show are
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handled like immediately after the minute you email us, we get it out to
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you. But I can't make the jersey go into the packaging and get at
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the store immediately do all that. That's we set it up on a way
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that we make it very efficient for everyone. And then that Rob Love Robbie
1:01:45
goes, I'm a member who always wins. Yeah, that's a da best
1:01:49
though. I'm sure you've won some other stuff too along the way. But
1:01:52
Rob just absolutely crushing it all. I should have specified never has never won
1:01:57
to giveaway. And congrats to Hoop's burner account. They said it was your
1:02:02
son. Yeah, yeah, he's had his eye on it. Even though
1:02:06
he doesn't know who Marino is. He wants it. So he's all into
1:02:08
collecting, you know, the football helmets. He's got the jerseys for Christmas,
1:02:14
he asks for a bunch of jerseys and he saw that Marino one in
1:02:15
the basement. He goes, I want that, He goes, but who's
1:02:19
Marino? So get on YouTube and look it up. Yeah, pretty good
1:02:22
signed jersey to just randomly stumble upon and say you'd want to have it.
1:02:25
People see autograph, it's like, I'll take it. It's autographed. They
1:02:28
have no idea who it actually is. But this case very good one.
1:02:31
We've got a little bit of extra time there, guys. It's going to
1:02:34
be a shorter show with the two man booth as always, obviously, but
1:02:36
if you have more questions or things that you think we miss touching on or
1:02:39
anything like that that you want to throw in the chat, you know,
1:02:42
we'll always try and come back around to them if we can. The weather,
1:02:45
this is the last game, who Dallas Buffalo. We're going to talk
1:02:47
on this one for a minute anyway. But the roth right up is like
1:02:52
just off the walls here, like interesting development here, as high res models
1:02:55
keep the vast majority of rain a few miles off, mostly over the like
1:03:00
I can't continue to read this, but in general doesn't sound like it's gonna
1:03:04
be crazy. It's not as bad as some of these other spots. I
1:03:07
think the bigger issue here is very expensive to build around this game. It's
1:03:12
possible, it can be done, but it's very expensive to get get involved.
1:03:15
Yeah, it's a very good point. Let me start on the Dallas
1:03:20
side, because I think I've kind of nailed this Dallas situation all season long
1:03:25
to our benefit, you know, not only my benefit, but to our
1:03:28
members benefit. I think this is personally like one of the worst spots of
1:03:31
the season for the Cowboys. They're just on this massive high right now,
1:03:36
been playing well, smash the Eagles like they're on way way, you know,
1:03:40
coming up. Now they're on the road facing a Bills team that's kind
1:03:45
of surging right now, in a very difficult environment with whether we like the
1:03:50
Cowboys offense more at home, we like Dak more at home. Tony Pollard's
1:03:53
been rough all season long. It's just it hits me as just like a
1:04:00
letdown spot for the Cowboys in a pretty big way. I think the Eagle,
1:04:03
I think the Bills crush them today and I don't want many pieces of
1:04:08
the Cowboys. It's not a Dak day today, So don't get excited about
1:04:11
that. I know, a lot of the stuff this season. We've had
1:04:13
a lot of jokes and a lot of fun with Dak. You know,
1:04:15
as you can see, the jersey is not on rocking the sin hoodie today
1:04:17
instead of the Dak jersey. Just it seems like a really bad spot.
1:04:21
And then all that and like you said, in order to get involved here,
1:04:26
you got to pay a premium. You gotta pay a big boy premium
1:04:28
to get involved in the Cowboy side. Now, with all that being said,
1:04:31
like I still like Ceedee Lamb, Like he can still get there.
1:04:34
I mean, the Cowboys can get owned in this game, and Ceedee Lamb
1:04:38
can still you know, be effective and get there. And we don't have
1:04:41
a lot of spend wide receivers and he's been steady all season long. By
1:04:45
far, my favorite part of the Cowboy side is just getting Cede Lamb,
1:04:51
maybe a little bit of Ferguson And these will be more so on Josh Allen
1:04:55
teams who I will be playing today. I want the Bill side. I
1:04:59
want Josh Allen. How do you play Josh Allen in this spot? Like
1:05:03
you know, Digs should be low owned, so I want someone with digs.
1:05:06
Gabe Davis. We know what it is. He's either going off or
1:05:09
he's getting you zero. But at five percent, three percent ownership, whatever
1:05:14
he is, like in my one fifty, it's easy to get over on
1:05:16
him. Dalton Kinkaid, I think is a play. I don't mind a
1:05:20
little bit of Dawson knock, so I am interested on the Bills side offensively,
1:05:25
but it mostly revolves around Josh Allen, you know, digs at low
1:05:29
ownership, Gabe Davis, Kinkaid, even some Dawson knocks, and then James
1:05:33
Cook I think is somewhat interesting too. You can throw him into that mix
1:05:38
of running backs that just will naturally be low on because of how many solid
1:05:42
running back plays we have. But I think it's a big day for the
1:05:45
Bills Cowboys. I think this is a letdown spot and it just I feel
1:05:49
pretty good about this one. Laughing. The wind off the lake is brutal.
1:05:55
Tell whop, the wind off the lake is brutal. There, I
1:05:58
told you, you know, the wind off the lake. You can't be
1:06:01
messing with that. You know, some naked Allan takes. You could just
1:06:04
get that two rushing TD game at home. Just keep it on the Yeah,
1:06:10
finally, sure ahead, this is good we got the Hoodies up and
1:06:15
our boy Marley goes. I wore my ship Andy to the gym yesterday and
1:06:19
it added twenty pounds to my bench press. See that's the trick again,
1:06:23
the hoodies. I think we're mostly out though, right like we Yeah,
1:06:27
we got anything that comes in now in the bigger sizes what would likely be
1:06:30
a pre order, but we could get it within probably a couple of weeks.
1:06:33
Yeah, we're gonna put another order in it as a matter of that.
1:06:35
So if you do, all one, go over, get it now
1:06:38
before Christmas. We'll try and get it sent out to you as soon as
1:06:41
possible. But just a note there. The other one though, was where
1:06:45
did I see it here? It was the naked Allen one I forget now.
1:06:49
But yeah, this question we answered early. I'll go into it a
1:06:53
second on that low guys under four k will bring up ooop, but I
1:06:56
don't know like the Allen side for sure. I'm playing Mayo and I had
1:07:00
to build up some lineups the other day on this game and we try both
1:07:02
sides. It was like, again, ridiculous. He's trying to put lamb
1:07:04
and digs and everything together. It makes it really tough. To get to
1:07:09
a good lineup, so it's very tough in that instance. But I think,
1:07:12
like I don't know, my James Cook call last week was pretty good
1:07:15
with Dawson Knox back, it feels like that's gonna be James Connor today.
1:07:18
We'll stick with the Jameses. Right, the James has come through, so
1:07:23
we'll move on from one JC James Cook to another JC James Connor and play
1:07:28
that one in that game. I think it's a good leverage spot. We
1:07:30
can go to that there. But I don't have too much else to add.
1:07:32
When I'm going to side, it's typically like I'm going to King Kaid
1:07:35
Davis. We built some with Knox and you kind of just gotta hope Knox
1:07:40
is your har Ham two touchdown game. You know. I don't like that.
1:07:43
I would rather just go bet it. But at least in those lineups,
1:07:45
what we had to find, like Mayo was putting them up and I
1:07:47
was trying to run through them, was it's that's how you got to something
1:07:51
that looked reasonable within this game. But then you're just hoping Knox does anything.
1:07:55
But in the end, I didn't love those builds. I don't mind
1:07:58
landing on the Buffalo defense here, I think twenty four hundred. They're sort
1:08:04
of smack dab in the middle of the new in the Jets, the two
1:08:08
cheapies that we already talked about, but that are going up against really good
1:08:11
quarterbacks in their own right. It's tough to go up against Dak, but
1:08:14
at least it is on the road in Buffalo. And then of course you
1:08:17
got the wind coming in off the lake, so balls can get tipped and
1:08:21
anything could happen Hoop today with those wins off the lakes. So anything else
1:08:26
for you on this game if not talk a little bit about some of your
1:08:30
guys below four k again, just some of those wide receivers tight ends.
1:08:33
Anybody there under four k that you like to answer that question, Well,
1:08:38
let me kind of pull this up. So we talked about tomorrow. Douglas
1:08:41
thirty nine hundred, fine option, Wandel Robinson Hyatt. I like that Hiatt
1:08:45
call. We talked about him on that showdown slate. I mean they just
1:08:49
give him deep bombs. I mean if he cannucks, I mean they're going
1:08:53
to be golden at thirty one hundred. DeMarcus Robinson ten targets last week.
1:08:57
You know, clearly in the conversation minga Wix, we need to see on
1:09:00
wis. We haven't gotten any information on that, so we're gonna we'll have
1:09:03
that information within the next thirty But if he's out, like we talked about
1:09:09
that, Heath guy was out there a ton, So if Wix is out,
1:09:12
like Heath is a guy to potentially look at at the tight end position,
1:09:16
cheap tight ends that I'll be looking at today. There's you know,
1:09:18
Tucker Craft Chig. We talked about Higbee at thirty six, so I do
1:09:25
like quite a bit. I mean, he's a piece of that game that
1:09:28
should be mostly unowned. I'm adding more Higbee as we talk right now for
1:09:32
that reason, Hunter Henry, I have interest in him at thirty two.
1:09:40
So yeah, I don't know about ten ten guys or so, and it
1:09:42
could add to that list to a t. Perry if Alive's out, Shaheed's
1:09:45
right around that four K price day, there's a lot of cheap dudes today
1:09:48
for sure. Yeah, there's enough. And even when you got to go
1:09:50
up to the next range like the forty, like you can go up a
1:09:54
little bit more, there's even more options there. So I'm fine with it.
1:09:58
I like the Green Bay stuf. We're still wait on, like you
1:10:00
said, so I definitely want to see what happens there. The chat all
1:10:02
day has been talking about Taysom Hill. This is what you know. I
1:10:05
mean, they'll have a role. I mean yeah, I mean I never
1:10:09
play him, so I think like Taysom Hill is one of those guys if
1:10:12
if you typically play them, play them. If you typically don't play him,
1:10:15
don't play them. That's kind of my approach. And I don't play
1:10:17
him, so if he goes off and does something big, it's not gonna
1:10:20
be on my teams. Yeah, and it's a really tough there. You've
1:10:24
got McBride, Kittle, Kincaid, some of the other options even cheaper and
1:10:28
below him. Like again, it's really tough to make it happen. So
1:10:31
it just you know, whatever you see out there. If you play them,
1:10:33
like Hoops, I like Hoops angle there. If you play Taysom Hill,
1:10:35
play them, it's definitely gonna be a good spot with some of the
1:10:38
injuries and stuff they they've got going on. If you don't usually play me,
1:10:42
probably find to stay offen because I just don't ever have it where that's
1:10:44
gonna be. We definitely talked about this, like Adam says, yeah,
1:10:46
you could play with Sean asking here you can play them. We even talked
1:10:49
about playing Kieran Williams with Stafford and Higbee where you're just trying to lock up
1:10:55
the end zone red zone where it's not cup or Nikua and hope that's how
1:10:59
they get there and instead and the chalk will crush, but it won't be
1:11:01
the way you think, and it'll be a totally different roster construction to most
1:11:04
have. So I think that's an option as well. Whop anything else you
1:11:09
want to add? We have one more membership we have to give away.
1:11:11
Did you have someone in mind that you wanted to give it away to?
1:11:13
Oh, let's see man, someone post post. Uh, you have to
1:11:19
go way back to find the title stuff. So maybe maybe we'll do this,
1:11:25
give our guy Nick a membership. But feeling feeling good today, Yeah,
1:11:28
thank you. Yeah, the wheelchair comment was way better than you give
1:11:30
him credit for, way better than you give him credit. I'm still gonna
1:11:33
be honest and direct and say it was still horrible because it's the used up
1:11:35
dope. But I liked that Nick came back and still was very grateful and
1:11:41
the opportunity. Been a long time follower, love the work. I like
1:11:44
Nick. I got nothing against him. I just thought the joke was old.
1:11:46
So shout up to Nick, Nick, do us a favor. Screenshot
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your YouTube account, send it over to the info at ship at nation or
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Gmail account and then uh, we'll get you set up with the one month
1:11:59
membership there as well. That's what it's all about, man, Yeah,
1:12:01
taking taking small dollars and then getting them big wins. And man, we've
1:12:04
had a lot of people, a lot of members, a lot of members
1:12:10
do that very recently. So added to the list. This is what a
1:12:13
couple of years ago. Let's how about another one today, Josh, let's
1:12:16
do it do it again, Let's run it back. The industry is wrong
1:12:20
about our girl, Dga sod im sure, who hope? The industry is
1:12:24
wrong on buff Bruce Buffer man, youd know, No, she's talking about
1:12:27
Buffalo. Of course, the Bills Dallas fan though, So everyone's saying Buffalo
1:12:31
is gonna get the job done and Dallas is going to have a letdown.
1:12:33
But Hoop is the best at predicting this stuff, and he's not wearing the
1:12:38
jersey and said it's not the DACT day, So it's very unfortunate for Cowboys
1:12:42
fans out there. I thought on, yeah, what was your thought on
1:12:45
Pollard? Actually, prob, you're not playing his ass, are you.
1:12:48
Uh, he's I did mention him earlier when I said that range, but
1:12:51
now when you got like Aaron Jones, bijon Henry White, it's really tough
1:12:56
for me to get to it there. So yeah, it's he has a
1:12:58
smash game. Good for him. Yeah, yeah, kind of in the
1:13:00
same boat there. I had Marty's another another Dallas fan here, thirty four
1:13:04
to seventeen. He's got the score now, so I'm a Dallas fan.
1:13:10
Hoop is true. I mean they're playing good. I mean they could certainly
1:13:13
win. But you got to kind of pick these spots in the NFL because
1:13:15
you see it all the time, like the bounce back spots, the letdown
1:13:18
spots. Like last night Lions you know, talked about we talked about it
1:13:23
on the I don't know what they recorded that show, but it just seemed
1:13:27
like it was a perfect bounce back spot for the Lions. What do they
1:13:30
do? They went out and absolutely smashed the Broncos. Like these spots do
1:13:32
pop up in the NFL. This just strikes me as a letdown spot for
1:13:36
Dallas. It's a huge game for Buffalo. Buffalo really needs this one.
1:13:40
They're going all out to win. Seems like a really bad spot for Dallas.
1:13:44
Now. Is Dallas good enough to overcome that? Possibly? But my
1:13:47
money's going to be on Dallas getting their ass kicked today. Yeah, it's
1:13:51
definitely possible. Like I said, we'll see, We'll have everything covered for
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easy for you to hop in there. Hoop. Did you have anything else?
1:14:50
Sorry? Any other final thoughts that I missed or we good? No?
1:14:54
I like the slate. I think it's a good, good slate.
1:14:58
I keep saying the word dynamic, and I really I think it is in
1:15:00
some of these spots. It's gonna be a fun one. Good luck to
1:15:03
all our members and supporters out there in the DK Live Final and the FanDuel
1:15:08
Live Final. I think we're gonna get double logos. I've been texted with
1:15:12
our boy g rising out there in Arizona. He's having a good time,
1:15:15
got married. A lot of good mojo around these live finals. I think
1:15:18
I think it's gonna come to a boiling point today and we get the double
1:15:21
Shipper, the DK Live Final Shipper, and the FanDuel one. So one
1:15:26
day, that was the morning I was texted with Ham. He said,
1:15:29
but you know they went on the cruise ship for the FanDuel one. He
1:15:31
said that the cruise ship was supposed to dock at like eight am to give
1:15:34
everyone plenty of time to get off the boat, get in, make build
1:15:38
their lineups, all that. He said, the boat is delayed by like
1:15:41
two hours. That's good for me. That's good for me. That's how
1:15:44
you don't go right, that's why you stick around. That's stayed at home.
1:15:47
And then for the MMA lovers out there, this is an update.
1:15:50
Just woke up. Yes I did. Man, that was one of the
1:15:56
more scary knockouts, Like, wow, that was wild. And then man,
1:16:01
Kobe Covington, what the fuck was that? Like that was pathetic?
1:16:04
I mean that was just absolutely pathetic. If you're talking that sort of game,
1:16:09
like you got to get out there and do something like do something that
1:16:12
was not good. Well, some people say, that's just what it is.
1:16:15
It's just a game that he talks, right, Obviously, he's had
1:16:16
some results to back it up incredible you know other times, but that was
1:16:19
not good. And he does do a lot of talking, so that's where
1:16:23
that comes from. Congrats in advanced Hoop. Like Hoop said, shut up
1:16:26
to everybody out there in these live finals. I think the slate really makes
1:16:30
for a great day to be in a live final because there's so many ways
1:16:32
that you can go. Don't get caught into these traps, Katie, if
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you're not, if the nation already join it, we'd love to have you,
1:16:38
says Please relieve me of my gut feelings. That's what it's all about.
1:16:42
We want to be able to get after it. Build your own process,
1:16:44
find your way to the top of these leaderboards. That's gonna do it
1:16:46
for this one, guys, for Whop, for myself to tag and tambo
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let ship it mosted Hans Hans hadst needed hand fs