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Big Ten Tournament Preview with Jake Dunn, Mike Hutsell & Grant Shouse (2.194.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: U.R.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: listening to a special addition of the I.E.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: report with Grant Shouse and my cutsl and the Purdue report with Jake Dunn coming together to preview the Big Ten tournament.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Catch Jake Dunn on Wednesday and his normal Purdue report spot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And our I.E.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: guys, Mike and Grant will be back on Wednesday night with a recap of hopefully I.E.U.
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: against Purdue.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we will have a recap every night after the big tournament, as long as either IU or Purdue is playing, and probably even pass that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Please join us.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome college basketball fans to the Central Indian Sports Report.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: For a big tin basketball preview, I'm joined by our Purdue guy, Jake Dunn.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: One of our IU guys, Mike Huttsel, we expect to be joined by our other IU guy.
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Grant Shao sees off cheating on the Hoosars at the horizon league, it turned of it.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's doing some portal scouting, I think.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Cooper, the freshman point guard at Wright State, might be a portal candidate.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Jeffersonville kid, there you go.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's all on the up and up, but here to talk some big ten basketball, and I want to ask you guys, which one of you is less enthused about going into this turn?
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how bad it is for Jake, but you can't be any less than thused about a basketball season than I am right now, so at least you guys have a path to the big ten title game that looks reasonable, there's no world in which I can first see Indiana making any kind of run this weekend.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, their first game on Wednesday could be against a team they've lost
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And given the history of Indiana and this event, yeah, I'm dying for this week.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my answer is definitely not me.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know I used to have a tough season.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I've got a little bit of hope.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I used to have much hope here.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was about a week and a half ago, I, you fans were pretty excited about this team, Mike.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we, remember, if you go back and listen, we said, there's one thing you cannot do.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's lose all these games.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, guess what Indiana did?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They lost four of their last five.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And they really didn't even compete and three of the four.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And the fourth was a loss at home to Northwestern.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You talk about sucking any momentum and enthusiasm out of a season, go lose a few games by close to 30, just get completely outclassed by schools that are supposed to be your rivals.
• 3:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, play with what you feel like is a chance to make the tournament and not even compete.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And if these matchups, it really, really puts us out of taste in your mouth and wraps up
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  [SPEAKER_02]: At one point felt like a positive first season for Darren DeVries, but he's really, really losing a lot of enthusiasm among the fan base, which is crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't a fire day in DeVries conversation.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You're stupid if you want to have that discussion, but it's taken a lot of a lot of what the fan base was excited about and just put it back down to the Mike Woodson era level of
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in the other corner, you have a team that began the season right number one in the country, and is lost five games at home.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're joined by Grant Shouts trying to decide what's fan base is more disappointed right now, Grant.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Get the camera in a closer to my face.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a good question.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think both fan base have a lot to be disappointed about right now.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would say, I don't know, I feel like Purdue's got to be a little more disappointed to be honest.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Indiana's expectations over the years have been low last few years were Purdue.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you come in as the preseason number one and we've lost what five or six games at home this year actually since Indiana football won the National Championship Purdue is
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, not only is that a cool thing, but I think that Indiana football broke Purdue basketball.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love how they can always fit that in Jake.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I told you we were going to just hate this.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hopefully Purdue can win a national championship here in basketball, not saying they're going to.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It'd be nice if we could have something to at least try to match up with that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: pretty pretty disappointing season for Purdue basketball so far but still still have a it's only ball game now.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing is at least there is some hope in the path is pretty good for Purdue.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They kind of sacked all the as I was saying on the Purdue report this week.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jake keeps saying hey yeah but our goals are out in front of us and and all they have to do is turn it on now but I've been saying for about three weeks oh yeah it's time to turn it on now and all they've done for three
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: let's talk about the tournament in a hole and it looks like the top half of the bracket Jake is where it's going to be the toughest road I certainly think so I like the winner will come out of the top half of the bracket there pretty pretty chalk pick but I think they're
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like Jake's right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of the really rumble that's there at the top.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got I would argue of the best teams in the league for the five or in the top.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Half of this bracket, just the way it happened to break with the overall standings.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Michigan clearly the favorite going in.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they've lost twice this year.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: One time to Duke.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: the other time to Wisconsin, Wisconsin's up there to deal with.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a dangerous team.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like even though Greg Gard's March resume doesn't exactly inspire confidence Illinois, I just keep waiting for them to get everything back on track, but they may have been a team that peaked a little bit in February and are starting to take on water, but they're still a dangerous dangerous team.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I tell you right now a team that I just think is
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  [SPEAKER_02]: getting it together at the right time is Ohio State.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got super star and Bruce Thornton, but around him, you've got just athletes, mobly one of the best shooters in the conference, Devon Royale and Jamari, the freshman, who is just absolutely taking over now.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looked like a force in that game on Saturday, again, and he's just, he's in a very impressive athlete.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They went from the bubble to the eighth seed in the conference tournament.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think they could give Michigan a pretty interesting match up now.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a, not a John D. Blur guy by any stretch.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's got it done here at the end of this year.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good on him.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think of the top 10 teams in the big 10 six of them are in the top half of the bracket for of them are in the bottom half.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to go back to the point Mike just made about L little way.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they are a team that they kind of peak too early.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: that Purdue win for them was, I mean, it's still a great win, but with kind of the way Purdue's been in their last 13 games or so, they have kind of made that win not look as the greatest it was when I first came about, looking around, I think Purdue's a team that can still make a run.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They've just had a couple bad losses.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But what I'm interested in and I don't know if you guys talked about this before I jumped on here, but there could be an Indiana Purdue Big 10 tournament matchup on Thursday night in the early game of the night session up in Chicago, which I'm I'm interested in those teams is not played each other in the big 10 tournament.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: the first year it ever came out, which is like 1999.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a great tune in a big 10 tournament.
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: 1998 was the last time Grant and the first big tournament we have not talked about it yet.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Guys, I've been obsessed with this for about a decade now that how could these two teams avoid each other for so long in the big 10 tournament?
• 9:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I will say this the last couple of times.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They've been in the same side of the bracket.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I, you lost before they could play Purdue.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I was going to say it's Indiana is really, really good at losing in the big 10 tournaments.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, unless they match up in the first game, Indiana goes out of its way to accommodate this not happening.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So Purdue had to fail down to Indiana's level this year to make it a possibility.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll say this, I'll say this, guys.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: live a day on this Earth, where I'll see Indiana basketball when the F and Big Ten tournament.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think I'd ever see him beat Ohio State in football.
• 9:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you that's not true.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I guess anything's possible.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm just saying it's a long time for it.
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have never one time and I'm not sure I ever will see Indiana basketball win the big ten tournament as the Robert Morris mascot with the TED off.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: The guy is literally walking towards me right now.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: That's just a big ten basketball.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is some day with a mallet and the press conference is going on on the other side of the curtain.
• 10:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if you hear, if you hear any of that, I don't think you will, but the hurt, the northern Kentucky press conference is getting ready to start to believe.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: See to that are the right state one.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I swim on the day as if they want to talk any big thin basketball.
• 10:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: get to horizon league report going get to ask Darren horn what's his thoughts on Penn State North Western tomorrow in the in the opening round of the Fred Hoyberg invitation on Tuesday.
• 10:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well I can I can tell you this about Darren horn and there's nobody around me right now that would care but his wife sat behind you tonight.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: and she is a smoke shows.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know they got beat, but at least he gets to go home to that.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: So good for that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And he may, he may be the next Cincinnati coach.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got no idea.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Grant is, is she as handsome as Miss Signetti.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the quarter.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Better.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't bold statement.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she was right behind me during the game.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I kept like, pretending like a buddy was up in the stands.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be turning around just trying to catch it.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it was actually talked to her half-time.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_04]: I think we need to move on.
• 11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying it.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a good night down here.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll not be back tomorrow due to a restraining order by the horn family.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, this has gone off the rails.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They tend to do while they don't get together.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: You could not get the IU report in the Purdue report together without chaos.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not even me this time.
• 12:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And here's, I'll try to get us back on track.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a question for you.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, any of the three of you watch one minute of Tuesday night's games.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's obsessing.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am a sick sick dude when it comes to march basketball.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sitting here recording this watching Gonzaga and Oregon state and what could be Donnie Tinkle or whatever's last night glass game at Oregon.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wayne Tinkle Wayne Tinkle.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... his last game with the beavers the beavers having a guy named tinkle coach is kind of been one of the most you know it's a little bit funny to me i don't know why it's not quite as funny as magic johnson is a poor name that never got used to but that's right it is for less well that i'm gonna say this about uh... the two games tomorrow is they're on peacock i'm gonna be back here at the horizon league for the championship
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I might pull them up on my laptop and watch them.
• 13:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my answer first game.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I've been pulling up, I've been pulling up other games here.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Jake, are you obsessed enough to watch Marilyn and Oregon or Penn State Northwestern?
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll watch on Wednesday.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm that obsessed.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will not be watching.
• 13:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will actually be at the ACC tournament in Charlotte.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be there a week.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're going Tuesday night in the ACC, we're talking about bad basketball.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I, I'm getting paid to be there.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's a little different.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good on, good on you for that.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I can't even name the teams that are playing tomorrow.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cow, I think, are they in this Notre Dame?
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is Notre Dame playing?
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're qualified.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you here in a second, I don't know if Tupma had honestly.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And welcome everyone to the ACC tournament preview and I don't mind it.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the I think the biggest upset of the first day of the of the hollyberg invitation is Rutgers isn't involved.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm I'm actually surprised by that.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I figured they'd be one of those bottom four that would thought I thought they were like easy money going to be one of the four teams playing on Tuesday and Chicago, but low and behold buzz Williams and an Oregon both just kind of out of nowhere this year.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: putting together just crap-tastic enough of the season that gets pico into into Wednesday.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He should get a contract extension for qualifying for Wednesday night.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before the season, Jake said Nebraska was his surprise team, and I think he wins, because my said my surprise team was Oregon, you couldn't have predicted Oregon's injury was worse.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: But still, second place versus 16th place is pretty different.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be a state of Michigan final, I expect is owed to be there.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We haven't talked about them very much, if at all, in this podcast, but I think you're looking at a chance to be a really, really, that's a team that I think can make a march run.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've got size, they've got guys who can't shoot as opposed to years past and they've got a great point guard.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He can obviously get kicked out of any game at any time with his ability to mule kick guys
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Michigan State, I expect to be in the final.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll be playing Michigan.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think Dusty Mae makes it two years in a row for the Wolverines.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Indiana fans get to cry a little bit more about that.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: You kind of beat me to the punch, Mike.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to take, uh, I was going to take the same thing.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Michigan and Michigan State.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to change it up, I think.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm going to take Michigan to get be it seems like the team that usually makes a run in the tournament doesn't get to their conference championship game or loses in the conference championship or gets upset before then.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I could see Michigan getting upset before the big 10 tournament championship game.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to take
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's constant in Michigan state in the championship and give me January, February is though April, May, June and on to cut down the nets in Chicago and be technically the big tins first representative in the NCAA tournament Michigan state.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Jake, I was going to let you go next, but I'm just going to jump right on there.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had the exact same idea except for I'm going to say it's going to be Illinois.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: the beats Michigan.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Michigan's guards have been not playing quite as well.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're ready to get beat.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think just wants in this tournament.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Give me Michigan State, over Illinois, for the Big Ten Championship, Jake.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now that we've kind of talked about a little bit more, I'm gonna admit, I could have been a little swayed here in terms of my selections.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: This will be Ohio State and Michigan's third time meeting.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: and it's really hard to be the team twice, it's really hard to be them three times.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm gonna, I'm gonna go on a limb here, very very bold prediction Ohio State upsets Michigan, I like grants message there.
• 18:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Ohio State beats Michigan, I'm gonna say Illinois in the championship.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Versavers Purdue, why not, you know, why not, if we're going on a limb here.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Purdue is going to get high here in March, make the championship, but I think ultimately I Illinois will get the best of them again there.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the Illinois is the champion against seven seed Purdue championship.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right everybody, we'll be back on Wednesday night after the Purdue Indiana game.
• 18:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks guys.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're not breaking down Rutgers on Wednesday.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rutgers Minnesota.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake we need a Jake we need an emergency pod after the pit game tomorrow.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah keep us posted Who else?
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Boston Kyle so so uh I won't get there until five but the first game I'll see you'll be 11 seed SMU versus 14 seed Syracuse It's a 430 game very brown and Jim Bayheim, huh?
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then the 7pm game is a Virginia Tech 12 seed vs. 13 seed week for us.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big one for tech.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jake, maybe you can get your picture with Carmelo, who probably be there.
• 19:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I went to the ACC Tournament one year and the championship game was
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Vence Carter, and we're shooting Wallace against Tim Duncan and Randolph-Cilvers.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's awesome.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: 1995, maybe 96.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Central and Dana Sports Report is a product about the GD Media, and I love Susie.