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Yoreh De’ah 216:1-6. Vows: On Specific Items · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning Richtad Zine helkos Nadari maquila guine Omar
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  peros Ailu loamar ailu. It depends if you specify these
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  specifically or not. What are some differences things
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  that come out of it? Let's see.
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  OK, olive konam perot perot ailu Ali.
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  A person makes lesson of a carbon that these fruit are
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  going to be ussered to me Pero Taylo Alai, right, that's a
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  proper lashon, right. There's a couple different ways
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  of wording it from the Mishnah. Let's go on.
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  But anyways, you word it correctly to make these you
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  specify it's these fruit user. So of course these fruits are
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  going to be usser. But now what about anything
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  that's gets exchanged for it? Let's say you have a a sack of
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  potatoes and then someone wants to trade it potatoes for onions
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  and now they're sold or whatever it gets traded.
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  So then what's the Den Obigu Dulehan?
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  Or you take the shoots, the the fruits, whatever vegetables or
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  the seeds of fruits, and now you plant them and now they produce
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  new fruits. What's or they grow and they
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  become much bigger. What's the what's the din?
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  So, so we learn over here, it's it's user any, any, because you
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  specify these fruits and we'll see these fruits, some these
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  fruit. And so therefore, whatever comes
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  out of them or traded for them, they're all going to be Usser.
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  We're going to, we're going to learn the details.
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  I'll just point out it's, it is a it's a question.
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  All these additions, Hilufeyum and Gaddulium.
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  It might only be a Dindera Bana and that'll help explain a
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  little bit why there's different nuances that has all
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  distinguished between this and that, but not clear.
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  Now also, we said whenever you trade it, it becomes Usser.
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  So let's say you take a sack of potatoes and you trade it for
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  onions. So this the potatoes you made
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  the net there on these potatoes. So these potatoes stay user and
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  also the onions also become user.
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  You can't just because you trade it, that doesn't mean that it it
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  your nether somehow just floated away or got transferred because
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  your Nether was specifically on these potatoes.
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  So both become user and same too with the GI Dulean and that's
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  obvious. That's more obvious those
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  potatoes and anything else that grows from those or the those an
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  orange and you plant the seeds. Of course, those oranges and
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  that you remain user and the seeds but they produce are also
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  going to be user. OK, the more of the fetish I
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  pointed out was the hue of fame. The shock also points out from
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  what's it called. He also points out that not only
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  now, the only time a mock leaf becomes usser is if he does it
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  himself. He ussers his own potatoes and
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  then he goes and trades those potatoes for onions.
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  But it wouldn't depending on, you know, the whole how you make
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  it and neither for you, neither on someone else.
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  Basically, it's somebody else involved.
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  So generally Hilou Fahan will not continue with the esser.
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  OK, let's stay focused. The ain't sorry Lomar, the
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  mashkin, hayotzi, mahem and certainly kosher cane.
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  Any liquid, any fruit juice, any liquid that comes you usser,
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  tomatoes, oranges, apples, whatever it is, and you get some
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  kind of juice out of it that's going to be usser.
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  Actually, it's a, it's a so shayla, it's a, it's a question
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  in the Gemara with no answer. And so the halacha is la homra.
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  Now OK, Pasha's this level at least for this we're talking
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  about it Jinda rice also. So anyways, let's go on the
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  bottom line. That's the halacha, the chain us
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  or the gidule Gidulehan. Now not only is the seeds and
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  the fruit that's produced from those seeds, the next
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  generation, the grandchildren, whatever the seeds from the the
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  next produce that that grows from the next oranges are also
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  going to be asar. OK, 'cause it's all continuation
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  of the nether on this fruit, OK of all hilufe, hilufe and
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  mutarin. But if you exchange our example
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  was potatoes for onions and now you have the onions and now you
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  want to exchange the onions for something else.
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  OK, Ad Khan, it's mutter that far we didn't have in mind.
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  It's it's too far removed to say it's the same.
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  And when it comes to growth, it's a little bit different
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  because it's has the actual mamashas.
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  I don't know if we're going to call it DNA or flavor.
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  Some of the posts can call it flavor, but whatever it's
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  continued into there, it's so therefore it's more strict.
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  OK, the Imlu Davar shizzaro Kala.
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  Now it depends also though, if it's something right now we're
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  talking about like the further generation, so the third
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  generation. So now if it's something that
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  the the seed gets decomposed and disappears right when you plant
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  it, generally seeds, that's what's going to happen.
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  So then gidoulay, Gidoulayhan mutaim.
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  So then the produce that grows is going to be a mutter
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  Gidoulay, Gidoulay, right? The third generation, the Hein
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  Haden Imloammar Haeilu Alohayula Fanov, the Amar Konamheim ally,
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  separate halacha, a continuation either sorry, that was going to
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  be a new thing. So anyways, if you say peros
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  elu, right, that's how we started.
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  Or you say or you're looking at them, they're right in front of
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  you and you say the fruit, you say these.
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  You know those are going to be ussered to me with the with the
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  like a korban. So then you have another.
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  It's the same as saying Halo 'cause you said these and
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  they're right in front of you. Hagah bahani Amar payros paloni.
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  So too, if you say payroll of a certain person or a certain
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  batch, you get very specific. Oh, makomploni right, that place
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  ham konamalai. So then you make a carbon on to
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  you. So for those so then have a kilo
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  mar perot alo. It's like you said these fruits.
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  In other words, you specified one second Haim konam alai.
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  Yeah, as long as it's designated which ones, particular ones, as
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  opposed to if you were to say all, you know, apples, you just
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  say the you just say apples in general.
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  So then we don't say that you had in mind.
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  So you're making a carbon for all apples basically in the
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  world. So that applies to the apples in
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  the world, but that doesn't apply.
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  A person doesn't have a mind to us or himself.
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  Even if he says all the apples in the world, he doesn't have a
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  mind to say all apples and their produce or their Hilo Feyen.
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  So that that part, that part, it doesn't go, it doesn't have that
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  level of hectish. And yeah, I guess if they don't
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  last two or three years, then there you go.
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  Then after two or three years, I don't know, maybe one year, then
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  once they have no longer have those apples anymore from that
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  year, then there should be no problem.
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  Normally or often when the growth comes out of it, it's
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  usser so that the Varshian point out why the next generation that
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  grows from it should have been mutter because it's Batal Barov.
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  You you answered one fruit, but the next generation just has a
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  tiny bit of something, whether you want to call it flavor or
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  DNA from the original fruits from the seed and that goes into
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  the next one. But you didn't osser the
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  children right? The next generation of fruit.
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  So how come you don't say bat El Baro?
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  So they say it's a diversiation materium because you could do a
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  Taras Nadarian and that's the reason.
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  So obviously this definitely sounds like a Tindar Abana, but
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  is Davar Shayshal material is also a dentar abundant.
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  We're going to see in the next halacha where it makes a big
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  difference if it's the seed disappears or not.
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  Yeah, it's more strict if the root remains and it keeps
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  producing from there when the seed dissolves.
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  So we see it could be more makeup.
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  Let's let's read the next talacha and then hopefully we
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  can put it all together or if we do Hazara, we'll review the two
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  together. You see the difference if it's
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  the seed is completely dissolves or not Halakhabet Amar konam
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  masha ani ochel. A person makes a carbon a neder
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  with the lotion of a carbon and he says it's on these fruits
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  that I'm going to in regarding eating when it means konam
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  perudelo alai masha ani ochel. That's what he's saying.
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  He's saying in regards to eating O tohem or in regards to tasting
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  from them. So that's what kind.
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  So he specified these fruit, but he also limited it to eating or
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  tasting imuda varshizzaro kala. So if it's something that has
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  its that the seeds dissolve to go and treat him like wheat or
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  any fruit tree, any fruit, coyote ibehem mutter mikhilu
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  fehem, ubidu lehem. So since you, you limited it
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  from eating and therefore and the Zara, the Zara disappears.
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  So even Bethulu Fahan and Gidu lahem, anything that grows from
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  it, the next generation already is going to be mutter right
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  before, if you didn't limit it to eating or tasting, it's
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  either usser forever or usser just for one, one generation.
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  But we saw it depends Zaro. If it's depends if the Zaro
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  decipatates or not. So then maybe it's OK only for
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  Gidoulay, Gidoulayan. But here even the first
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  generation is Mather because you limited it to eating, not the
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  fruit itself, right? The previously if you just
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  mentioned the this fruit, so it encompasses more here you
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  limited it. You're not there to eating and
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  you when you do that, you don't have in mind also for the next,
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  even for the next generation you don't have in mind.
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  That's if the seed dissolves. However, the EME who Doversheim
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  Zaro Kala is all based on the Mishnayos and the Gemara.
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  The EME, by the way, I'll just point out there'll be Kiva Agar
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  in the bottom. He points out some of these
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  kiluki and he says, I don't really get it.
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  It's Zarakhi and Gadol. But anyways, like we said, if
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  you understand how it's Alder Abanon, then it makes helps.
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  OK, the Imudavar she in Zaro Kala Kishisori Noto.
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  Now let's say we're talking about something that doesn't
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  dissolve. I know there's bulbs of onions.
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  I'm not a not a farmer, I'm not an expert, but you have certain
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  things that you can you re you can re replant and the the main,
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  I don't know the shoot the the roots, whatever main.
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  And it could also multiply. You could put in an onion with a
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  bulb and it'll make more onions or something.
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  So I anyway something along those lines Kegon shum obit
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  Salim like garlic or onions, a filo GUI dule GUI dulean asur.
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  So even though you only answered in regards to eating and
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  tasting, but it continues in this in the next generation
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  because it doesn't dissolve and therefore it remains asur OK,
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  the vechain. OK, So what happens if no So
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  this goes on the garlic and the onions that they do not dissolve
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  Afilu gidule gidule in asar so that any growth is asar.
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  But on this kilufahan is mutter because again here you said
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  Shani okhal and you didn't have in mind kilufahan.
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  It is a mahlokis. But that is the the the halacha
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  according to the Drisha, the Prisha, the Grah and perhaps the
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  shalkhanara. But the Shah does argue on that.
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  I'll just point out that's Shazzaro Kala.
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  Now in Azzaro Shayano Kala, he's he only says Gidulayam is ASA.
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  It depends how you read the shalkhanara.
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  It's not clear. It's a much looking in the Shah.
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  OK, let's go on the thing. Mashkim hayotsing mahem ASA now
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  liquids so that again that's the vaidal upshita and the gomara
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  and so therefore you go the komara.
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  That's any liquids. OK, That's also going to be us,
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  Sir. It's because it's not glufaein,
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  it's not gidellaein, it's it's actual the exact actual fruit
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  that just gets squeezed out the liquid.
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  OK, IM ammar Konamperotelo. You make a like lush and carbon
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  of fruit of these alploni on somebody else, Asur Bahilufen
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  and Migodulayan. Basically that this is just
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  saying everything we learned until now.
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  It's the same say Malacha. If you make a nether on yourself
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  or with your items, you make a nether on someone else using it.
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  All the hiluchium is the same. You say.
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  You say you're saying a bays. We'll just say it and then we'll
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  move on. Bays is when you make a carbon
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  like they like saying this item to me is like a carbon, but you
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  add the words Shani ohel in regards to eating and well, it
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  means from eating or in regards to eating.
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  I am the Mishnah. Let's read Gilmore, Omar le
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  ishto konamasaya dekha alai. OK, so here it gets a little
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  tricky. What what you just mentioned,
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  Phil. If a person makes lush and
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  carbon on whatever his wife produces.
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  So it just the shock just points out and then it just you'd have
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  to word it in a right way that it's on a Heifetz and not on
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  something shaloda varbaolam. So it could be, for example,
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  Konam yadaya lamasayam. I'm really making a carbon on
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  your hands for what comes out of them.
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  Or you say I might say on on any of that comes out of your day
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  Ishti after she does it basically the same thing.
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  In other words, you're putting the the you just have to make
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  sure you put the net there goes on a on a hifet.
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  That's all. OK.
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  So if you do that, it's again the same halacha that we just
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  learned. Gimo Amarilli ishto konamasae
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  dekhalai aster bikila fehmegudilian Amar konam shani
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  ochel or shani toeem, you must say dekha mutter.
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  But if you make it a carbon and what I'm going to eat mutter
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  bikila fehen mugudilian. So then it only goes this same
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  thing we learned before. It only goes on the thing
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  itself. But since you, you constricted,
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  you limited, you're neither, it doesn't apply.
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  You didn't have a mind for Hilo Fehm Obigi Dulein.
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  Yeah, that's what she earns. It's certainly referring to what
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  she cooks. I believe it's on on earning
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  also. OK, maybe we'll clarify if
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  that's correct or not. So that's if it's something that
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  dissolves completely avadavasheinzar alcala.
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  But since it never dissolves and never disappears, afilu Ki
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  dulega dulean aser. So again he says Gidul is aser.
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  He doesn't mention the word hilu.
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  Feyen is aser. OK, that's the same.
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  Let's go to Dalid. Person makes a neder to not
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  benefit from a person's house, but he goes to to his friend and
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  says your house. So it's this house that's
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  belongs to you right Well, I take that back what I don't want
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  to dial it is one step Hay is the next step and then valve
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  combines Dalit and hay. So we'll just try and read them
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  all together. Let's see.
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  But then, mate, Oshima Karan. But so he's ussers.
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  You go to the friend and it says your house is usser.
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  So the emphasis is on the House has to belong to your friend.
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  So therefore if the friend dies or the friend sells it, well,
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  it's not his friend's anymore 'cause you can't own anything
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  when you pass away. Oh, he gives it away to somebody
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  as a gift. So then it is mutter.
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  So then it's mutter to benefit from it 'cause it doesn't belong
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  to your friend anymore. So the nether is not against it.
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  Shock just points out that's if he sells it or gives it to
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  somebody else. But if he gives it to the know
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  there who's talking, it's still going to be us.
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  Or does it never really when you take it from him, you're at that
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  moment you are benefiting from him.
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  Anyways, a little detail, right? And so once he sells it normally
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  to somebody else, it's not his anymore.
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  And that net Ned there was only shayak to your friend of all
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  kosher hubir Shuso Aser. But let's say this house is
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  belongs again to his to his friend.
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  Maybe he left it. He gave it away to the friend.
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  He sold it to the friend and now he got it back.
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  Let's just keep reading. So then it's going to be Aser
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  again because it's your friends again.
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  And there's it could be while he sold it that period, it was
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  Matteur and then he bought it back.
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  Well, that nether did never ended.
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  It wasn't an ending. There wasn't a tokif an
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  expiration date on the nether. So then he sold it and bought it
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  back or it fell apart, collapsed and then he rebuild.
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  So then it's but it's basically his, it's his friend's house
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  again. He rebuilt it, but I feel a
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  little bit, even if he moved over the bricks and rebuild it
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  somewhere else. It's us, Sir.
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  If it's different bricks, bricks and different material.
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  So then I'm not sure. OK, let's keep reading.
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  Haga amarlo konam Beit aviha if you made the korban on base
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  Aviha, not just to his friend directly.
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  So then she ain't in Nichnas. But I'm not going to enter AFA
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  bisha mate asur. Look, Nicole, you'd say
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  Khalatsav Korean Beitav if you use the word the beetav, like
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  the you know the family name. So but you know, but he
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  specified just not, not not even just say a name, but he says
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  like, you know your family. So then it applies to the
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  children as well. Let's read Hey, Amar konam
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  labaiza. But he said, what if he didn't
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  say to us your house to the friend, He said this house, this
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  building, Shani Nikbas niknas for me to enter into.
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  It's going to be Asarbo, the olam afilo mate Omekharo.
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  Even if the friend dies or sells it, it's user 'cause he didn't
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  make the Ned there on his friend's house, he made a
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  header. The Ned there on this building,
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  this edifice, oh, not luck. Or even if he gave it to someone
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  else, it's not going to help. That building's always going to
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  be user. But if it collapses and he
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  rebuilds it. Well, it's not the same house
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  anymore. It's the same material, but it's
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  not the same house. So then it'll be mutter.
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  OK, now let's put the two together.
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  But Omar konam lobetkhas, Omar konam lobetkhas aser Bola olam.
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  If he says your house, this your house.
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  So then you're stuck as long as it, if it has those parameters,
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  then there's no way out By selling or by collapsing.
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  Bain chamet, Bain mukharo and Al Akhar won't help Bain Chennafl.
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  But no, whether it collapses or not, it's going to be usser.
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  That's what he paskins and then he just quotes, he just points
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  out there are a couple different opinions in the Rishonim.
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  Basically that's a mahogus rishonim.
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  What is the kavana one opinion says like what's the icra kavana
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  one says? No Yesh Misha Omar Shamati
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  roommate Omahcaro or not? No, no, really.
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  If he dies, it's OK, then it's motor because he had Ikar Kavana
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  on the House, not the person. Oh, the ulcer Banaf Ulbanau,
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  right? Or the opposite of the issue.
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  We show me Bizzo, Ulcer, Bazzo, Matir, Bazzer, Shokner, Asarzal.