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Anthony “Hootie” Russo: Ronnie “One Arm” Trucchio & Gambino Mafia Brawls · money loyalty legacy

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Money Loyalty Legacy.
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If you grew up in New York in the late 90s, two thousands his
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name rang in the streets. A street pharmaceutical salesman
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to be an associate and crew member of the infamous Gambino
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Mafia crime family. He is no stranger to being
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dressed to the nines while keeping it real with his hip hop
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swag, all while living life like a rock style * Let's welcome
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back Mr. Anthony Hootie Rousseau.
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Oh yeah. You know, I don't know that you
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didn't tell me you you wrote that when I you wrote that down
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when I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, man, you know.
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I like that. Try to get it.
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You know the swag thing? That was my.
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Obituary there. You go.
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So you got a big announcement later on today.
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Well, do I got a big announcement or we got a big
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announcement? Hey, you know which one could it
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be? Well, you'll.
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Have to find out. You'll have to find out, but
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before we were starting, you had a fire story that you were going
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to present right away. Could you share that one with
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us? So I don't think I ever told
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this one. There was a it was actually
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mainly a banana bar. I think it was called Glenn
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Patrick's. It was on Crossway Blvd.
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And it was kind of like the end of Ozone Park almost towards the
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beginning of Howard Beach. And it was a big neighborhood
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place. A lot of banana guys hung out
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there, but it was just more majority, just a lot of just
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neighborhood young kids. And this was had to be the late
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90s. And you know, I was trying to
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think of Ronnie one on stories where, you know, he actually
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fought, not just knock guys out because he had a killer punch.
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He just knocked guys out. He's a big guy.
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And he did, he fought, you know, whenever he had to, he fought
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all the time. So we're in Glenpatrick's and
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the whole crew's in there. It's when I, you know, I'm just
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hanging out with them a couple years by now.
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The whole neighborhood is in there.
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But it's like one of those things where is kids from all
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parts of the neighborhood there and they don't really all know
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each other, which is like very weird to me.
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And like something like I try to do on social media.
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I don't like to be for guys on social media.
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If there was things I didn't like, I step up, I say
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something. But like in the streets, I knew
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everybody in there, but like everybody in there didn't know
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each other because I did business with a lot of people.
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I like to hang out different parts of it.
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I played all with all different, you know, crews.
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And so I was more or less I like to be known as a neighborhood
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guy. That's just how I was.
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And so there was a kid in there from Woodhaven, Ozone Park,
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redheaded, and his name is Danny, and his father was a
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Hells Angel just came home, or he was coming home.
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And how this kid didn't know. He might have been the only
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person on the planet that didn't know who Ronnie won, almost.
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So they go to the bathroom and two of the guys in our crew
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follow Ronnie to the bathroom. The place is packed.
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Why he was in there? I think he might have heard
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girls talking about it because I think that was the first and
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last time he's ever been in there.
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And you know, it was young too, back then.
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So when I found out that he was going there, it was.
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I just want to stay home and mind my business because God
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only knows what's going to happen or now I want to go and
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want to see what's going to happen.
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What would he doing there? You know, the place is jam
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packed. You know, even if the bartender
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knows who he is, he's going to have to make way because they're
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going to treat him like a, you know, like a rock star.
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He gets the world treatment. And if people do know who he is,
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he's the type of guy that walks into a bar, he's going to clear
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it out. People don't want to be in
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there. Don't know what this guy doing.
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He's right here to clip somebody and you know, he's with five or
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six guys and back then there was like two or three guys in that
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crew that could really get down that, you know, wind up
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eventually not hanging out with us anymore.
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Moved on, but they got down. So the kids in the bathroom,
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Ronnie goes in the bathroom, they're waiting for Ronnie by
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the door. Kid might have been paying
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attention. He had no idea who Ronnie one on
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was on top of it. The kids like 5 foot 2, Ronnie's
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66, like, like, so he goes to use the bathroom.
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Ronnie might have been a little drunk.
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He's off balance, you know, with his arm.
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And he must have brushed the kid.
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This kid said, hearing it from the other two guys, they were
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like, this kid was an idiot. And then, you know, they told me
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what happened in the bathroom. So he goes, well, why, why don't
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you watch where you're going? He tells Ronnie.
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And Ronnie was tuned up, so he didn't really take it as a
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disrespect. And he was like, I, yeah.
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And the kids, like, you didn't hear me.
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And then, like, they didn't react because they were so taken
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back by what, how this kid was talking to him, you know, and he
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looked like a redheaded stepchild, right.
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So they said they just couldn't wait anymore.
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All you seen was water I seen coming from the bathroom floor,
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out of the bathroom onto the floor.
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They were hitting this kid with the sink.
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They ripped the sink off the wall.
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They hit him with everything and he was a little juice head.
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So he was like a little Mighty Mouse, like he was making it
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through. And as I guess everybody else
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was. No, that was knew who Ronnie
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was, you know, So when the door opens and I can see Ronnie's in
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a suit, he's slipping all over the place and he only got 1 off
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and he's trying to like hit the kid and it's not funny, but it,
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it looked like a, like a comedy skit.
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Slip this way, slip that way. But then the other two kids, the
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other two guys were big guys and you know, so they're not fast
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but powerful and know how to fight and they're hitting them
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with everything and they're slipping.
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But he's small and, you know, juiced up, so he's like sliding
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the right way, like making the like, but getting hit with
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everything. They dropped the sink on him.
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He got off waters everywhere. So on the way out the door,
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everybody in the crowd hit him as he goes out the door, how
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many times his own friends didn't help him.
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So as he's trying to make it to the door, it's about 30 feet,
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the everybody in the place took a shot at this kid.
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It was like I'm, I'm like, I felt like I was in a movie.
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I'm like, is this really what's going on right now?
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Did you hit him? No, I was on the other side.
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I didn't know it was him. I had no idea it was him.
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They were hitting them all over the place from every angle when
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they got outside. I knew the kids that he was with
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because they were from 88 Park. They were the younger kid.
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So when I seen them, he was bloodied.
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He was all banged up, but he was OK.
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But what went on inside was like one of the first times that like
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I seen Ronnie trying to throw down but throwing more than one
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punch, but like really couldn't connect because he was slipping
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all over the place. So and I'm like, like, did I
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really come out on this night? Like it was all I was surreal.
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Like and then you say all the kids in the neighborhood, these
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young kids would just take letting it let's haymakers at
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this kid just now. I didn't ask what happened or
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why they're doing it. They just knew that Ronnie was
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trying to hit that kid, so the whole neighborhood wanted to hit
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him. Did the kid run out?
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I mean, you said he was he? Made it out the door and he
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just. Cruise out.
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And they were standing on a corner waiting from the kids
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that he came with. And he's like, how'd you leave
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me in there? Did you see what happened?
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And they were like, are you crazy?
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And the kids were pretty tough kids.
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They were like anybody else in the whole place.
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You picked on one of the bosses in the Gambino crime family.
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He's like they, you know, like I can see him shrugging, but I
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don't know what he's saying cuz I'm across the street.
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So I want to know what he says afterwards.
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And after he leaves, they said he kind of like stuttered was
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take it back that he just got to a fight with, you know, a guy
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from the Gambino crime family. And then in the next breath was
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I'll give off my falls as Hell's Angel.
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He'll kill him. And he ran off and I was like,
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they're like, he's just a fucking idiot.
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So the next day, the next day, this is the funny part of the
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story. He goes to my friend Louis T,
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who I worked for in the arcade because I guess like they
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weren't friends or nothing, but he must have put two and two
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together. Louis, maybe he's a knock around
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guy and he can get word. So Louis meets him.
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So he's thinking he wants to apologize or should he go on the
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lamb or this or that? Know what the kid says?
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You think I should go find him and fight him again?
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This is how it burnt out this kid was.
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Was he a rock head? Yeah, he was a big juice head.
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He was all fucked up in the steroids.
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Did anything. When my father finds out about
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this, this guy's going to have a big problem.
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You know, my father's a Hell's age.
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Like the way he's telling me stories.
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Like, I just couldn't believe what was coming out.
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Like I didn't have an answer I got, I didn't even know what to
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say what was coming out of this kids mouth.
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Like the two guys alone on the regular ground would have put
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them in the ground, then Ronnie and then the whole place.
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Then your own friends who you you go out and fight with every
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weekend got the fuck out of there because they knew better.
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And you're coming here like you're going to do something
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like how what'd you take this morning?
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Like how much like like steroids or whatever.
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He's like, like, what the fuck is wrong?
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And he's like, no, he goes, wait, what do you think I can
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find this guy? Like he was going to go try to
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fight this guy. And then he went into all, you
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know, my father's going to find out about this and he's a Hell's
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Angel and you know, then he'll be in trouble.
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And it's like, and this is like 199899 like, like the mob was
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still going, you know what I mean?
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It's like, and Ronnie was a guy who didn't play around.
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So it's like what the And it's like the weirdest fucking story.
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And if I didn't witness it, I would have thought someone would
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come and tell me story to break up my balls.
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What? What came of it?
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Did the Hell's Angels ever come about it?
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Never came of it. The kid wind up getting beat up
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in like 3 different bars after that.
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They still kept. Going out and causing trouble,
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you know what I mean? In like Woodhaven area, there
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wasn't no really mob guys or anything in those bars.
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Lunatics and tough guys, but not mob guys, you know?
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How did he not get knocked out? Because people are going to hear
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this story and they're going to think like how many guys are we
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talking about? Like this guy's going through to
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see people. So like 151015 guys.
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Less than that, No. I think the worst of it was in
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the bathroom because they hit him with.
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He was bleeding from everywhere. Yeah, it's scars everywhere.
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But when there's so. No, it was about 50 people, like
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20 that the place was jam packed.
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Yeah, but when there's so many people trying to hit you, you'll
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maybe get one or two. And he was quick, was all
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steroided up. Who knows?
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He probably felt it for the next week after that.
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Yeah, you know, 'cause I remember seeing him and he had
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bandages all over his head. So I know when they hit him with
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the sing, I know they, they gave it to him good.
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Inside the bathroom. Like how did that not knock like
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a like a thick guy? This is a thick like.
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Sun, this is. Like a little.
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Ceramic with all those. Things they just ripped it out
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of the wall or out. Of the wall and just put it over
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his. Coconut.
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Now, how big were the how big were the other two guys that
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like something? My height and solid.
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Yeah, they were. They were two tough guys, Yeah,
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and known for knocking guys out. So with now, was he in there
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still trying to fistfight or he kind of realized, shit, I'm
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trying to get out, but he couldn't get out trying to get
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out. He's just slipping.
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Around and he was like, but like going with it, right?
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You know what I mean, 'cause when I seen him, it looked like
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he was the only one that knew what he was doing.
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Yeah, it's. Almost like and.
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Bleeding all over the place, you know what I mean?
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But he knew like, and then when he got there, if somebody might
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have grabbed them and pulled them back in, then he would have
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been screwed because then there'll just been like 50 guys
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stomping on his head. Kill them you think with Nah.
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There's a little bit of coma, but who knows all the time.
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He was on all types of drugs so. He's lucky nobody pulled out of
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like a knife or anything like that.
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You know what I did like the next What was it like 3-4 days
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later, we were all sitting around in Aldo's and it got
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brought up and usually it's go find that guy, bring him to me
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and it was whatever Ronnie was like whatever, get that fucking
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sink put over and he was a fucking imbecile.
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He was like his thing was if you were a disrespectful and you
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knew who you were talking to, that's when he would come after
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you. He was just an 8 that didn't
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know any better. Because there was another time
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there was a fight that I was involved in with that and the
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guy was with the Lucchese family.
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And how this guy didn't know who Ronnie was blew my mind because
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Ronnie grew up with the guy's father, knew his brothers and
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everything else. And he was just and he gave him
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a we, we gave him a good beating butt.
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So once the Captain and Lucchesi family called for him, but you
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know, send Ronnie a message. Ronnie just sent back.
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Oh, it's over. I don't care because the guy
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didn't know anybody. You know, he was fucking
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disrespectful, but he was that much of an idiot because he was
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the toughest guy in the world. And after he got cracked around,
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smashed in somebody, it was in it was in a nail salon.
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Somebody told him that you don't talk to Ronnie one on like that.
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And his eyes lit up. I was standing right.
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He was like, I had no fucking idea.
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I never met. I'm shocked.
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Like he just turned in. He was the biggest tough guy in
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the world and he was supposed to be a tough guy.
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He was a big drug dealer and he turned into a puppy dog when he
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heard it was I think a woman said or somebody said it.
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And like, once you realized who it was that he was speaking to,
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he was bleeding from his lip, his mouth, he turned into a
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puppy dog. So I seen that and they seen
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that too. So you couldn't fake that.
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You couldn't. You don't go from being a tough
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guy while you're bleeding and then all of a sudden hear a name
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and become a puppy dog. You know what I mean?
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So like, it was forgotten about after that.
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Like, you know, we're just like, yeah, that was a.
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Let's clear up just in case this is the first time people have
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seen you before. Let's clear up who Ronnie was,
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who he was to just just real quick if nobody's seen you
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before. Ronnie is Ronnie one on Trukio.
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He was a Gambino captain in the Gambino crime family, probably
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one of the most powerful captains in New York City out of
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any crime family at the time. He's serving life in prison
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right now. He probably went one of the
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largest, most successful money making crews around.
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He he was he's been around, I couldn't tell you since the 70s.
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He's been in the streets his whole life.
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He got hit by a car when he was younger and it up his arm.
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So his arm never healed. So it was like a dead arm.
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So he had swear he got the nickname Ronnie one arm and he
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that when he was a kid. So he went through his life
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during the toughest parts of New York City's, the era from East
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New York into Ozone Park and still came out of maniac, a
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tough guy and most respected with one arm.
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And yeah, he was a fearsome guy. You know, he, he, he survived
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150 plus stabs to his body. You know, they try to rob a ball
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he was in. They did rob a ball.
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He was in two Hispanic guys and they stabbed them over 150 times
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and he survived. He crawled out of the bar, got
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there was a gun somewhere hidden in the bar, got the gun, crawled
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out of the bar and he was able to got he killed one of them.
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The other one got away shot. Or if they, yeah, I don't know
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if they ever caught up with the other one.
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I think they did. But yeah, he was.
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He was the epitome of a gangster.
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He was a gangster and I probably would have stood in the streets
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earning and maybe working a job and still hustling what I wanted
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to be around him. And as since I could walk, I
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seen him walking up and down 101st Ave. when I was a kid and
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the power and the fear that he put in people, I just said
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that's the guy I wanted to be around.
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That's who he was. And he was well known.
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He was well known. Ronnie, you said was a tough
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guy, obviously, right? Can you describe the scenario
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like that played out when you see Ronnie about to get into a
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violent altercation? Can you describe his demeanor,
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describe the build up and then does he swing first or?
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It oh, there was again, like I try to always compare of the
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stories because everybody's always on the outside looking in
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and then those are the stories you hear.
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And then when you're on the inside you find out that that's
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not the case whatsoever. So Ronnie was a big drinker and
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you know, people say drugs too. I was around the guy party and
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going, I've never seen him do 1 drug, but he liked to drink.
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So they used to say they become a certain time of the night.
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Ronnie would get tuned up, his eyes would go a certain way, and
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then whoever was around that might have did something wrong
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to an hour ago or three months ago was getting knocked out.
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He swung first. He was going to wreck the ball.
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And that was his reputation. Don't bother him.
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Don't go near him. He never smiled.
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He was, he wasn't a guy who smiled.
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And yeah, he was always ready for a fight.
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And he had that that knockout punch at 1:00, He was a monster.
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So he had that. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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So now I'm hanging out with him and he's drinking.
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Come to find out, being stabbed that many times in life, he
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couldn't see. And when he got drunk, he
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couldn't. He's seen even less.
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So it was him squinting or people thought that he got like
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all buggy and his eyes went great.
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No, he couldn't see. So he squinting to see who's in
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the bar, who's left in the bar, Is the guy still in the arrow
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that he's looking to crack his head open?
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Is the girl in there he's still looking to fuck?
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That's what he was doing. So for years, I'm hearing all
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these guys tell stories that his eyes would talk, going twitchy.
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He's out of his fucking mind. And then he just find the target
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and it was over. And it wasn't that he might.
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Yeah. He's looking for whoever bumped
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into him earlier that night, whoever owed the money, whoever
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should have been at the bar at that time.
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Or he's looking to grab whatever girl he's looking to grab to
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take home. You know what I mean?
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So like, you hear those stories and it's like, no, it's he gets
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tuned up and he's ready to go. But he never looked like he was
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having a good time. He never looked like he was in a
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good mood and he never smiled. And this could be 3:00 in the
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afternoon on Tuesday. Just that's how he always
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looked. It's just that when he got tuned
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up and his eyesight got worse, it was all right.
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Who's in here that I've been looking for the last three
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months has been ducking me all, you know what I mean?
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And he was always ready to get down.
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There was there's a story. Now this is me telling it second
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hand. I don't usually like to tell
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stories that I wasn't there for involved in, but this was very
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well known. They were having a meeting.
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This is when he was straightened out and Skinny Don was his
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captain. There was a bar called
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Characters and the guy that used to drive for Ronnie owned that
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bar or family owned that bar. So they set up a meeting and it
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was on Crossfade Blvd. and it was Skinny Dom Ronnie went on
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and Vinnie and Sarah. So it must have been some kind
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of Gambino banana neighborhood cuz that's most of the time it
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was either Vinnie or Ronnie. You know, in Ozone Park in Hal
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Beach, that was, you know, they were the 2 with the most power.
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You know, combos and cases didn't really hold that much
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power in Ozone Park in Hal Beach.
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So they're in the bar and whatever they have in, you know,
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sit down about or talk about between them and they never got
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along. One skinny dime is always I
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don't even like to say his name. That guy is one of the
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grouchiest guys that you've ever met.
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Never in a good mood, was always yelling at somebody again,
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Ronnie, you never seen him in a good mood and Vinnie Sarah hated
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everybody. So this is like this is.
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Just a next spot of just. Ready to blow.
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This is a disaster right waiting to happen.
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And there's some guys in the back and then Ronnie's driver
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was there as well, whose family owned the ball.
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And then there's a bunch of guys in the back shooting pool acting
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rowdy. And now I think they were from
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Rockaway because, you know, it's the connection.
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Bunch of Irish guys, if I'm not mistaken, and acting rowdy.
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There was a lot of them, more than what they had.
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And they, these are all the gentlemen.
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They're not, you know, no spring chickens.
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Ronnie might have been the youngest.
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So how don't you know who one of these guys are?
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Nevertheless, all of them, right?
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It's like, does everybody else or do does everybody else live
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in the bubble or do we live in the bubble?
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Like I never understood it because like when I left the
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life, meaning that I didn't want to live like that anymore.
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So I didn't pay attention to who's the upcoming mafia guy
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didn't live by the laws, didn't chop a debate.
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Just like leaving that life in general, not just, you know, not
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talking about the mafia, just living that kind of life.
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Like certain neighborhoods just still live that kind of life
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even if you're not in the mafia. Like, so is it they're living in
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the bubble or are they living like it's, it's just, it's hard
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to understand because I had no idea when I left that bubble
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what the fuck everybody else was talking about and doing.
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Like I felt like I had comprehension problems, but not
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reading, listening to somebody, like I needed somebody to
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explain to me what that person was saying.
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And a lot of conversations that I had with people, it's like,
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what do you like? What do you?
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And it's not like an educated conversation.
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It's just like, where did you even learn to talk like that?
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Like who even understand you? I couldn't.
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And it was a lot of people like that.
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I was talking to a CEOACEO once and I was like, do you have an
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assistant that can explain to me what you just said?
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Like I just very, very weird. So I never understood who lived
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in the bubble. Was it us or was it them?
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So they had no idea who they were.
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Right away somebody bumps in the Vinnie going to the bathroom.
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Vinnie is ready to fight at 8090 years old.
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Didn't matter. He gets into one with one of
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them. The characters was in a parking
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lot, like a mini mall, but maybe there was like one of the story
24:18
and I bought the show. It was like a long parking lot,
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but like cars would park, but there was nobody there and they
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said, let's take it outside, Vinnie said.
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So you got Vinnie captain in the in the Bonanno family, Ronnie
24:31
Mae guy in the Gambino family, Skinny Dom, captain in the
24:34
Gambino family, like the most powerful guys in like the five
24:38
boroughs go out into the parking lot to fight these six or seven
24:42
young guys. Vinnie a sorrow is old, right?
24:45
Yeah, he's old. How old is at this point?
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Maybe in his 60s. OK, so we're dealing with like
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an older man, Yeah. So you're talking about it was
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in the 90s. Yeah.
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So like 30 years ago. You know, that's what I'm
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saying. So what was Ronnie in his 50s?
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Maybe 50 or 4040, late 40s, whatever it was.
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And, and probably skating that was maybe a few years in
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between. He always looked old anyway.
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And then Ronnie's drive up. We're in the parking lot on now.
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This is Crosby Blvd. So if any anybody drives by and
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sees one of these guys fight, they're going to pull over and
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be like, are you nuts? And you got these 3 old guys
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fighting these 67 young guys in the parking lot of a bar at like
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8:00 at night, like it's a fucking Sunday afternoon movie.
25:34
Because a couple people did drive by.
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So I heard the story from a few different people.
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One guy got out, a girl drove by, stopped, witnessed it.
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I heard the story from that because who's rolling on the
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floor? Who's you would never see these
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guys. Like I would pay to see a video
25:53
of guys in that posit those guys rolling around with six or seven
25:57
young guys, right? You know what I mean?
26:00
But again, these were guys that didn't know any better.
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But you're talking about in Howard Beach, like somebody's
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got to know or you got to say to yourself, what are three old
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guys doing in an empty bar? And they're with the guy behind
26:16
the bar is with them. He's got to be somebody, no
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question. Of this book putting together.
26:22
No what? They're not putting, they're not
26:23
putting into connection. Yeah, but.
26:24
Given how big you gotta put something, yeah, No, I know one
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of these guys is somebody. They're dressed to the nines,
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right? They're in suits.
26:30
They're always in suits. Right.
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So doesn't that stand out to them?
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Like if they're if they're wearing like these expensive
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suits, the gold watches that like, yeah, you'd think like if
26:38
I if Ross and I saw that wouldn't saw three old men, I'm
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not gonna. Fight old men first.
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No, I know. I I I know, but I'm just.
26:44
Saying like they were probably our ages now it's a mob name.
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Yeah. You know that.
26:47
Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, my age now, you know. Yeah.
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No, but I don't think skinny. I'm dressed up a lot.
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Vinny did. I don't know if that was what
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Bonnie was one of those guys. During the day he wore a sweat
26:58
suit and the night he wore dress clothes.
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They look the part though, you know what I mean?
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That's my point. Yeah, but not even look in the
27:04
part. You're in Howard Beach in the
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90s, right? Who else is going to be in a bar
27:08
in Howard Beach but a connected guy?
27:10
A knock around guy, right? Maybe a what?
27:13
At minimum an associate, You know what I mean?
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You're not in Richmond Hill, you're in Howard B.
27:19
So they're out there fist fighting, brawling.
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Fist fight, rolling around in the edge, fall to the parking
27:24
lot, everything. This went on until a few people
27:28
stopped, help them, got them up and then the cops game.
27:32
Help to. Ronnie and OK yeah, they knew
27:34
what it you know people drive by and you see you got to take a
27:38
double look at stopping away. The second is that Ronnie, one
27:41
of them rolling around 2 guys in a headlock, you know what I
27:45
mean? Like whatever, you know, you
27:46
just got to be, you know, you expect that from Vinny.
27:49
Vinny used to fight all the time.
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Guy was not, you know, to the park and he's playing
27:53
racquetball and within the first couple points of the game he's
27:57
hitting somebody over the head with the racket.
27:58
Are you just not, are you just like at this point, like like if
28:01
I already know that and you know, there's a lot of tough
28:03
guys everywhere, you know, I'm not saying like, you know,
28:05
whatever, but why am I putting myself into position to get hit
28:08
when the head with a racket? I'll just say I'm done for the
28:11
day. I never under, but those are the
28:12
guys that answer back. I'm like, you know, he's going
28:15
to hit you over the head with something.
28:16
Why don't you just let him win the conversation?
28:18
Yeah, I never understand that about people.
28:20
Why are you egging a guy on that you know you're not going to
28:23
fight, you know you're not going to hit back and you know he's
28:25
going to hit your head with a bull stick.
28:26
If we're in a club or whatever we're in.
28:28
It's like but and guys just love punishment.
28:32
What what, what happened with that when the fight people came
28:35
and helped Ronnie? Nothing.
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That was it. Nothing.
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Really happened. I would think like this people
28:40
are hearing this and they're thinking these two of the most
28:42
powerful captains at the time, right?
28:44
You would be thinking that these guys would be running back
28:47
wherever and calling up their guys to go kill these these
28:50
young guys they just got to fight with because they felt the
28:52
disrespect because you can't put your hands on a made guy, right?
28:54
If you know he's a made guy, you know what I mean.
28:57
And this, they took it as like, because now I'm hearing about it
29:03
afterwards, they felt like young guys, like it was a ballroom
29:07
brawl. No, I'm sure if somebody got
29:08
hurt, I don't know how Skinny Dom took it, but I knew how
29:11
Vinnie and Ronnie took it because I heard their side.
29:13
I don't I would never ask for a private conversation with Skinny
29:17
Dom. Yeah, but.
29:20
But that's like Ronnie. I've seen him do that a dozen
29:23
times. If a guy was disrespectful and
29:27
the guy knew who he was being disrespectful to, there's no the
29:33
end of the earth you couldn't go to get Ronnie to stop chasing
29:36
him.