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- 0:07Speaker 1: In the bever home in twenty fifteen. Everything seemed normal,
- 0:12Speaker 1: the day was coming to an end, and everyone was
- 0:14Speaker 1: getting ready for bed. Then suddenly, the quiet family home
- 0:19Speaker 1: quickly turned into something straight out of a nightmare when
- 0:23Speaker 1: one of the kids let out a blood curdling scream
- 0:26Speaker 1: and made their way down the stairs of the home
- 0:29Speaker 1: with blood pouring from their slashed throat behind her. She
- 0:33Speaker 1: was quickly followed by her two older brothers, who had
- 0:38Speaker 1: just begun their vicious attack on the whole family. This
- 0:43Speaker 1: is the Broken Arrow Killings.
- 0:47Speaker 2: My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked
- 0:50Speaker 2: and Grim, a true crime podcast.
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- 3:30Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. So, yeah, I'm quite nervous for this case. Now.
- 3:36Speaker 1: It's it's a doozy.
- 3:38Speaker 2: I didn't realize what we were getting ourselves into.
- 3:40Speaker 1: No, No, it's a doozy one. That was quite the intro.
- 3:44Speaker 1: I decided to give away a little bit of some
- 3:46Speaker 1: of the brutality that immediately occurs in that intro, particularly
- 3:51Speaker 1: because this is a very brutal case, so you ready
- 3:57Speaker 1: for it, I think? So, okay, Well, this is called
- 4:00Speaker 1: the Broken Arrow killings, the Broken Arrow massacre. Usually Broken
- 4:05Speaker 1: Arrow Killings is what it's referred to, but of course
- 4:08Speaker 1: there's other variations. So Broken Arrow is actually the town
- 4:11Speaker 1: in which it took place.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Okay.
- 4:13Speaker 1: So it was a quiet Wednesday night on July twenty second,
- 4:18Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and Broken Arrow, the Bever family household, usually
- 4:23Speaker 1: filled with commotion as the family was made up of
- 4:26Speaker 1: nine individuals, two parents and seven children, was quieting down
- 4:30Speaker 1: for the evening. Now in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma, the family's
- 4:34Speaker 1: home is located in a suburban neighborhood. It seemed peaceful
- 4:37Speaker 1: on the outside, but shortly after, sorry, shortly before nine
- 4:41Speaker 1: thirty pm, everything would change. Thirteen year old Crystal Bever
- 4:47Speaker 1: was headed upstairs to her brother's bedroom. She was headed
- 4:50Speaker 1: up there with a simple request from their mother, some chores.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Their mother, April Bever, age forty four, had spent the
- 4:57Speaker 1: week planning a birthday celebration for the youngest family member, Autumn,
- 5:01Speaker 1: who was soon turning two years old. The house was
- 5:04Speaker 1: filled with the usual pre birthday excitement, yet a bit
- 5:08Speaker 1: of tension lingered, something that was going unnoticed. Cristel entered
- 5:14Speaker 1: her brother's bedroom. There, she found her brother eighteen year
- 5:17Speaker 1: old Robert and seventeen year old Michael, who had shared
- 5:20Speaker 1: a bedroom. They were dawning and assembling body armor on themselves. Now,
- 5:27Speaker 1: this peculiar scene was not entirely new to her. It
- 5:31Speaker 1: was something that they were recently diving into. The once
- 5:35Speaker 1: quiet and introverted teens had developed this unsettling fascination with firearms, knives,
- 5:41Speaker 1: body armors, and also serial killers in the recent months.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Cristal had mentioned this to her her parents before, a
- 5:50Speaker 1: little bit concerned about it, thinking like it's kind of odd,
- 5:53Speaker 1: a little bit creepy. But the parents, April and David Bever,
- 5:58Speaker 1: their fifty two year old father, dismissed it. You know,
- 6:01Speaker 1: it's just kind of like it's just a new interest.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They're just exploring things. You know, boys get into liking
- 6:07Speaker 1: knives or playing Call of Duty on Xbox and guns
- 6:10Speaker 1: and all this sort of stuff. It's just kind of
- 6:11Speaker 1: typical teenage behavior, is what they figured it was. So
- 6:17Speaker 1: Crystal walks into the room and sees this familiar sight
- 6:19Speaker 1: of them wearing armor, having knives spread out on the
- 6:23Speaker 1: on the bed, and she talks to her brothers and say,
- 6:27Speaker 1: Mom wants you to finish the dishes before you go
- 6:29Speaker 1: to bed. Suddenly, one brother turns to the other and
- 6:34Speaker 1: poses a bit of a question, something a little bit cryptic.
- 6:39Speaker 1: He says, should we do it now? Unaware of the
- 6:44Speaker 1: impending horror behind that question, Crystal responded casually, well, I'm here, now,
- 6:51Speaker 1: what do you want? Michael Bever signaled christ Crystal to
- 6:56Speaker 1: check something on his computer screen. As she turned towards
- 6:59Speaker 1: the illumination monitor, Robert, the other brother, quietly approached from behind,
- 7:04Speaker 1: took a knife, wrapped it around her, and slashed her
- 7:08Speaker 1: throat with a knife in one swift motion. The brother's
- 7:11Speaker 1: only exposure to sudden such violence had come from TV shows,
- 7:15Speaker 1: and they imagine this would be a quick and silent kill,
- 7:18Speaker 1: similar to action movies, you know, when someone's walking through halls,
- 7:22Speaker 1: taking out people quickly and quietly to make their way
- 7:25Speaker 1: into somewhere they're trying to navigate. However, the reality is
- 7:30Speaker 1: vastly different. Crystal didn't immediately die and fall to the
- 7:35Speaker 1: floor silently like they expected, She let out a blood
- 7:38Speaker 1: curdling scream and staggered backwards, blood gushing from her neck. Determined,
- 7:44Speaker 1: Robert continued his attack, stabbing her multiple times in the chest,
- 7:48Speaker 1: arms and shoulder, and stomach, trying to kill her. Crystal
- 7:53Speaker 1: thought about running to her room, thought about trying to
- 7:56Speaker 1: grab her phone, but decided instead to make her way
- 7:59Speaker 1: downstairs and head for the door to go outside, hoping
- 8:02Speaker 1: to find a neighbor and call for help that way.
- 8:05Speaker 1: She made her way outside and collapsed in the front yard,
- 8:09Speaker 1: her throat deeply slashed, lungs filling with her own blood,
- 8:13Speaker 1: and an organ even protruding from her stomach wound. Hearing
- 8:17Speaker 1: the horrific noise, the mother, April, rushed upstairs and as
- 8:23Speaker 1: Crystal was descending, April encountered Robert, who now launched an
- 8:27Speaker 1: attack on his mother, inflicting at least forty eight knife
- 8:32Speaker 1: wounds upon her. An investigator later remarked it was quote
- 8:38Speaker 1: more wounds than I had ever seen in anybody ever.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Holy shit, you're really just starting us off here.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you we are diving straight into this.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Wow. My eyes are just like bulging out of my face.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Your reactions so far or something else.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit.
- 9:00Speaker 1: So Robert now had returned to Crystal, who was still
- 9:04Speaker 1: alive at this point and bleeding in the front yard.
- 9:07Speaker 1: He kneeled beside her and he began to strangle her
- 9:09Speaker 1: until he heard a final gurgle as blood filled her
- 9:12Speaker 1: throat and lungs, and Crystal went limp. Robert dragged her
- 9:17Speaker 1: back into the house. The brothers together moved on. The
- 9:22Speaker 1: house had turned into a scene of absolute chaos, reminiscent
- 9:27Speaker 1: of a horror movie, something right out of Hollywood's worst
- 9:30Speaker 1: production ever. The attacker's younger siblings, seven year old Christopher
- 9:35Speaker 1: and five year old Victoria, were petrified. They were unaware
- 9:39Speaker 1: of what was going on. All they knew was screams
- 9:42Speaker 1: were happening. It was panic, and these two kids didn't
- 9:46Speaker 1: know what to do. The only thing they could think
- 9:49Speaker 1: to do was hide, So together they locked themselves in
- 9:52Speaker 1: the bathroom, hysterical and seeking some sort of safety and sancty.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Well, they're in their safe place right now, like they're
- 9:58Speaker 2: in their hon yep.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Holy now. The brothers together quickly found their younger siblings
- 10:04Speaker 1: hiding in the bathroom, and one of them knocked on
- 10:08Speaker 1: the door. Michael pretended to be panicked, and he whispered
- 10:14Speaker 1: through the door, let me in, he's gonna kill me
- 10:19Speaker 1: and wanting to help, their brother, Christopher opened the door.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Oh no, yes, okay, this is just getting worse and worse.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Holy shit.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Yeah. So, now the two brothers, Michael and Robert had
- 10:39Speaker 1: access into the bathroom that was previously locked where Victoria
- 10:42Speaker 1: and Christopher were hiding. As they opened the door, the
- 10:47Speaker 1: two brothers entered, and it was too late. The brothers
- 10:50Speaker 1: swiftly continued their attack upon their younger siblings. Christopher was
- 10:54Speaker 1: stabbed six times and Victoria was stabbed eighteen times in
- 10:59Speaker 1: the neck, chest, back, in upper arms. Now, during this assault,
- 11:04Speaker 1: their father, David, at some point tried to intervene, and
- 11:10Speaker 1: he lunged towards his two sons. His efforts, though, were
- 11:14Speaker 1: unfortunately in vain. The boys were armed and he was not.
- 11:20Speaker 1: He was stabbed twenty eight times and suffered blunt force
- 11:23Speaker 1: injuries all over his body. Meanwhile, in the house, while
- 11:28Speaker 1: everyone's screaming, dying, crying, you name it, twelve year old
- 11:35Speaker 1: Daniel managed to lock himself in a room and dialed nine.
- 11:41Speaker 4: Nine one broken air nine one one, Hello, Hello, Hi,
- 11:55Speaker 4: where are you at?
- 11:56Speaker 3: Broke it out.
- 11:57Speaker 5: Oklaholm some four one one whatever, rest doesn't know.
- 12:01Speaker 4: I'm okay, are you the only one there?
- 12:06Speaker 5: No, my dais attacking the family.
- 12:09Speaker 4: Your dad is attacking your family. No, my dude, Okay,
- 12:21Speaker 4: who's attacking your family? Who's attacking your family?
- 12:28Speaker 5: Who is it?
- 12:32Speaker 2: They?
- 12:43Speaker 4: Are you there?
- 12:46Speaker 3: Little Hi?
- 12:47Speaker 5: What's going on there? What's going on there?
- 12:52Speaker 3: Hello?
- 12:56Speaker 5: Hello?
- 12:57Speaker 3: Oh?
- 13:12Speaker 2: Wow? Wow wow wow.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Just like the two brothers had done before to their
- 13:19Speaker 1: other siblings, Christopher and Victoria, Michael managed to convince his
- 13:25Speaker 1: younger brother to open the door while he was on
- 13:28Speaker 1: the phone with nine one one. The brothers came in,
- 13:32Speaker 1: took the cell phone from him. As you heard him
- 13:35Speaker 1: on the phone, he said hello, hello, and then he
- 13:39Speaker 1: smashed the cell phone on the floor, and they proceeded
- 13:43Speaker 1: to stab their brother nine times in the back, shoulder,
- 13:48Speaker 1: and chest. Unfortunately for them, but fortunately for us, this
- 13:56Speaker 1: initiated an immediate response, with the operator dispatching authorities to
- 14:01Speaker 1: the home. At this point, though, the boys had one
- 14:05Speaker 1: more sibling in the house and they needed to target
- 14:08Speaker 1: this person. Of course, they wanted to wipe out the
- 14:10Speaker 1: whole family, but little did they know that the authorities
- 14:14Speaker 1: were on their way, so they didn't have much time
- 14:17Speaker 1: and police would arrive at eleven forty five pm, some
- 14:20Speaker 1: fifteen minutes after the nine to one to one call
- 14:23Speaker 1: was placed. The older brothers were just about to begin
- 14:27Speaker 1: their final kill for the evening. They were headed to
- 14:30Speaker 1: the room of their two year old sister, Autumn, and
- 14:35Speaker 1: the plan was to decapitate Autumn.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Holy shit.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Thankfully, the police began banging on the front door of
- 14:44Speaker 1: the home and it came just in time, and it
- 14:47Speaker 1: scared the two boys and they bolted out the back
- 14:50Speaker 1: door of the home. Detective Brett Burton of the Broken
- 14:54Speaker 1: Arrow Police Department responded to the call, and as he
- 14:57Speaker 1: walked up the front steps of the home, he could
- 15:00Speaker 1: see blood trailing into the home where Crystal had laid
- 15:03Speaker 1: once and they had been drug back inside. As he
- 15:07Speaker 1: and the other responding officers approached the front door of
- 15:10Speaker 1: the home, they could hear a faint voice coming from inside,
- 15:14Speaker 1: one that said, help me.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Ben, what the hell are you doing
- 15:20Speaker 2: to us right now?
- 15:21Speaker 1: I'm just telling the story. It's a fucking horrible story,
- 15:24Speaker 1: but that's all I'm doing.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Yeah, this is unbelievable. This is unbelievable.
- 15:30Speaker 1: It is so. And this is when they began banging
- 15:33Speaker 1: on the door. The two brothers bolted. They couldn't get
- 15:36Speaker 1: the door open. No one would respond, so the authorities,
- 15:39Speaker 1: the officers that were responding, they forced their way into
- 15:42Speaker 1: the home. And once they forced their entry, there laid
- 15:46Speaker 1: thirteen year old Crystal, the one who was first attacked
- 15:49Speaker 1: and had her neck slashed.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Is she alive?
- 15:53Speaker 1: She was alive?
- 15:54Speaker 2: Holy shit, I was thinking that the two years or
- 15:57Speaker 2: it was the two year old Autumn.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Nope, Crystal was still alive. Her brother who knelt down
- 16:03Speaker 1: and began strangling her, she went limp and played dead.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Oh my word, so he let up and she was
- 16:11Speaker 1: not strangled. He drug her back inside and there she
- 16:14Speaker 1: was clinging to life, literally next slashed Americans hanging from
- 16:19Speaker 1: her abdomen, and she was still alive, asking and crying
- 16:23Speaker 1: for help.
- 16:24Speaker 2: I'm shook. I would I out of anyone, I would
- 16:27Speaker 2: not have thought that she would have, I know, like,
- 16:29Speaker 2: still been alive.
- 16:30Speaker 1: She was able to tell the officers that her brothers
- 16:32Speaker 1: were the ones who were attacking the family and that
- 16:34Speaker 1: they were in the house. So the officers got her
- 16:38Speaker 1: to safety, got her medical attention, and they continued sweeping
- 16:41Speaker 1: the house, bringing out some of the family members in
- 16:44Speaker 1: the process in hopes that they would still be alive
- 16:46Speaker 1: and still be able to be saved, and leaving others
- 16:49Speaker 1: because it was clear they were deceased. Upstairs, they found
- 16:55Speaker 1: two year old Autumn sleeping and unharmed.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Okay, just like such a little angel, just like so
- 17:03Speaker 2: young and not like really having no idea what's going
- 17:06Speaker 2: on and just sleeping, which is good, it.
- 17:09Speaker 1: Is, it is. I can't imagine the trauma would have
- 17:11Speaker 1: put on on on her if she was aware of
- 17:15Speaker 1: what was going on. Yeah, So Autumn and her older
- 17:18Speaker 1: sister Crystal would be the only two members of the
- 17:22Speaker 1: Bever family that would survive the attack from the brothers.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Wow, Crystal actually survived.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Hey, she would survive.
- 17:28Speaker 2: Yes, I just have to say too that like nine
- 17:32Speaker 2: one one operator had no idea, like to the extent
- 17:36Speaker 2: of what was going on really through that call.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Hey, I know you can hear the desperation in that
- 17:41Speaker 1: operator though. Oh you hear how fast and how vivorous
- 17:44Speaker 1: she's Oh she was honest, Yeah, typing like crazy, so
- 17:48Speaker 1: good on that operator.
- 17:50Speaker 2: She knew something was going down, but like, man, the
- 17:54Speaker 2: extent of what it was is was is mind blowing?
- 17:58Speaker 1: Yeah, And I kind of imagine the pit in that
- 18:00Speaker 1: person's stomach when they would have heard another voice go
- 18:04Speaker 1: hello and then the disconnected And then.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Also I'm I just have to say one more thing.
- 18:09Speaker 2: I'm shocked that that. I'm almost shocked that this carried
- 18:14Speaker 2: on because it seeming like these boys don't really have
- 18:18Speaker 2: any experience and like the Crystal and Crystal like to
- 18:21Speaker 2: the extent of, you know, not dying instantly. I'm almost
- 18:24Speaker 2: surprised that they they were this vicious and this like
- 18:31Speaker 2: I don't know the words, but to carry on, like
- 18:35Speaker 2: to carry on through the whole thing like this is.
- 18:37Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you mean to carry on.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Well that they didn't they weren't them killing their sister
- 18:43Speaker 2: like that, They just had so much brutality in them
- 18:45Speaker 2: to like carry on after the initial shock of seeing
- 18:48Speaker 2: how it affected Crystal and like, okay, so like her
- 18:51Speaker 2: like getting away and the blood coming out and everything, Like,
- 18:54Speaker 2: I'm shocked that they were able to just keep going
- 18:57Speaker 2: go on to.
- 18:57Speaker 1: The next family member. Yeah.
- 18:59Speaker 2: No, I almost would think after listening to that, I'm like, okay,
- 19:03Speaker 2: they're going to stop at this, Like this is shocking enough. Almost.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Well, we'll get into some of that here soon, a
- 19:08Speaker 1: little bit. Actually, some of it in particular here is
- 19:12Speaker 1: coming up almost immediately on their reaction, if you will,
- 19:18Speaker 1: so we'll touch on that. So the officers went through
- 19:22Speaker 1: the home, and the house is now cleared, and the
- 19:24Speaker 1: police knew that the boys escaped out of the back
- 19:26Speaker 1: of the home rather obviously, and on the back of
- 19:30Speaker 1: the home there was some wooded property and that's where
- 19:34Speaker 1: they would be. So it now turned into a manhunt.
- 19:37Speaker 1: But the man hunt would not last very long itself.
- 19:40Speaker 1: With a canine unit brought in. The two were quickly
- 19:43Speaker 1: located hiding in the bushes not far from the home,
- 19:46Speaker 1: and neither really resisted too much when they were found. Now,
- 19:51Speaker 1: the photos of the two boys that were taken as
- 19:54Speaker 1: they were arrested for evidence purposes that night show the
- 19:59Speaker 1: boys wearing their body armor underneath their t shirts, one
- 20:03Speaker 1: with his shirt tore up from the canine attack. But
- 20:06Speaker 1: both of them were covered in mud and covered in
- 20:09Speaker 1: blood of their family members. But the worst part of
- 20:13Speaker 1: it all was their demeanor. A quote from an officer officer,
- 20:18Speaker 1: I sorry, Corporal Leon Colin goes quote, they weren't upset.
- 20:24Speaker 1: They weren't distropped. It's almost like they had a sense
- 20:27Speaker 1: of cawkiness. It looked to me like one of the
- 20:31Speaker 1: boys had a smirk on his face and very much.
- 20:35Speaker 1: So you look at the photos, one of them, like
- 20:37Speaker 1: neither of them were were crying or upset, but one
- 20:40Speaker 1: of them is just kind of like stone cold, and
- 20:42Speaker 1: the other boy is one hundred percent smiling.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Seriously. Yeah, holy shit. They must just have some sort
- 20:52Speaker 2: of like just huge hatred towards their family or something
- 20:57Speaker 2: that they've just like developed this wall or something.
- 21:00Speaker 1: You're not going to like the answer to that. But
- 21:03Speaker 1: before we dive too much into that or any sort
- 21:06Speaker 1: of aftermath, we're going to rewind a bit and we're
- 21:09Speaker 1: gonna talk about the events that led up to it all,
- 21:11Speaker 1: which might give you some ideas somewhere that might head. Okay, So,
- 21:17Speaker 1: in the years before that fateful night, the Bever family
- 21:20Speaker 1: led a secluded and quiet life in the Indian Springs
- 21:24Speaker 1: neighborhood south of Broken Arrow. So they're not quite in
- 21:27Speaker 1: Broken Arrow, just you know, on the outskirts by the
- 21:29Speaker 1: sounds of it. Now known for its serene residential vibe,
- 21:34Speaker 1: if you will, it's well kept Parks middle class demographic.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Broken Arrow is the largest suburb of Tulsa and the
- 21:41Speaker 1: fourth largest city in the state. Despite having one of
- 21:44Speaker 1: the larger homes in the area and a household bustling
- 21:47Speaker 1: with seven children, the Bevers maintained minimal contact with those
- 21:51Speaker 1: in their community. They kept to themselves, The children were
- 21:56Speaker 1: rarely seen playing outside the parents. They kept to themselves,
- 22:00Speaker 1: and little was really known about the famili's everyday activities. Now,
- 22:04Speaker 1: this deliberate isolation was by design of the parents. April
- 22:08Speaker 1: homeschooled their children and did not engage with local homeschooling
- 22:10Speaker 1: groups like many others did you know, maybe feeding off
- 22:13Speaker 1: each other educational wise or layout wise on how they're
- 22:16Speaker 1: going to go about things, or structure whatever it was.
- 22:19Speaker 1: April kind of headed it on her own. Now. April, however,
- 22:22Speaker 1: was an active Reddit user, where she frequently discussed topics
- 22:26Speaker 1: related to homeschooling. There you know, upbringing children and even
- 22:30Speaker 1: premature births as well. The youngest child, Autumn, was born prematurely,
- 22:35Speaker 1: which prompted April to establish a nonprofit organization called Autumn Hope, Inc.
- 22:40Speaker 1: And this was done to establish Families with sorry to
- 22:43Speaker 1: assist families with premature babies, which freaking love that.
- 22:47Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Now. David worked as a technology consultant, and he and
- 22:52Speaker 1: April encouraged their kids, particularly their two eldest Robert and Michael,
- 22:56Speaker 1: to pursue their interest in computer technology. Now Robert and
- 23:00Speaker 1: micro Michael were especially drawn to this, spending extensive amount
- 23:04Speaker 1: of time online watching YouTube videos, which led them to
- 23:07Speaker 1: creating their own YouTube videos. Even being online, the boys
- 23:11Speaker 1: began to dive into some more taboo topics, some things
- 23:15Speaker 1: that were otherwise not really talked about in the home,
- 23:18Speaker 1: and things that the boys were somewhat shielded from as well,
- 23:22Speaker 1: which led to them developing a fascination with some more
- 23:25Speaker 1: violent type content. April and David were both devoutly religious individuals,
- 23:32Speaker 1: and they wanted to protect their children from aspects of
- 23:35Speaker 1: the outside world, you know, evil or harmful people. However,
- 23:39Speaker 1: their tendency or sorry, their leniency with technology had unforeseen repercussions.
- 23:44Speaker 1: The two brothers became obsessed with this destructive ideology as
- 23:48Speaker 1: they watched these horrible things unfold online and you know,
- 23:52Speaker 1: things that they really couldn't fully comprehend because of their
- 23:55Speaker 1: limited real world experience and being shielded and staying at
- 23:58Speaker 1: home teenagers, the two boys developed a particular interest in
- 24:03Speaker 1: school shooters, ones like Columbine, for example. They found these
- 24:12Speaker 1: thrilling and began to almost see this as an achievable goal,
- 24:15Speaker 1: something they could do.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Wow.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Now, one can only speculate really on how this obsession
- 24:20Speaker 1: came to be, and we can say for sure that
- 24:23Speaker 1: it was because of being shielded from the or sorry,
- 24:25Speaker 1: we can't say for sure that it was because of
- 24:27Speaker 1: being shielded from the real world or the violence that
- 24:30Speaker 1: they had allegedly endured at home as well, because you see,
- 24:34Speaker 1: the boys were not brought up in the perfect home
- 24:35Speaker 1: or atmosphere. Crystal, the surviving sister, later recounted that their father, David,
- 24:41Speaker 1: frequently subjected the two brothers to verbal and physical abuse.
- 24:45Speaker 1: During trial, Robert quoted his father and mother and told
- 24:49Speaker 1: the courtroom quote, they told us the world was full
- 24:53Speaker 1: of people who wanted to hurt us. He also claimed
- 24:56Speaker 1: their father would threaten them by saying, quote, you any
- 25:00Speaker 1: time I want now. If true, this, Mary very well
- 25:05Speaker 1: may have played a key role in Robert's deepening obsession
- 25:08Speaker 1: with violence and notorious killers like the Columbine shooters, James
- 25:12Speaker 1: Holmes and An obsession with the two thousand and nine
- 25:14Speaker 1: movie Rampage. But in the summer of twenty fifteen, Robert
- 25:20Speaker 1: Bevertt actually worked at a religious call center called Make
- 25:23Speaker 1: a Tech, where he answered calls from individuals seeking prayer
- 25:26Speaker 1: and spiritual guidance. Now, this situation is early reminiscent of
- 25:32Speaker 1: Ted Bundy's stint where he worked at a suicide hotline.
- 25:36Speaker 1: And perhaps if Robert was aware that tud Bed tud
- 25:41Speaker 1: Bendy Ted Bundy there we go worked at a hotline,
- 25:44Speaker 1: he may very well have felt some sort of connection
- 25:47Speaker 1: in some way. But that's hearsay, I kind of digress. Wow,
- 25:52Speaker 1: but his obsession with these killings, he very well might have.
- 25:55Speaker 2: Had that knowledge, Yeah, very much so.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Now with his earnings from this job, Robert began purchasing
- 26:01Speaker 1: supplies such as body armor, knives, and even a small crossbow.
- 26:06Speaker 1: His sister Crystal noticed the accumulating arsenal in her brother's
- 26:09Speaker 1: bedroom brought it up to her parents, but as I
- 26:11Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, they just kind of brushed it off basically
- 26:14Speaker 1: as boys being boys. Little did anyone know that this
- 26:18Speaker 1: would become something much more and what the brothers were
- 26:21Speaker 1: really capable of?
- 26:22Speaker 2: Well, who would ever imagine something like this happening.
- 26:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the biggest part of it is they were
- 26:28Speaker 1: aspiring to be famous and they were trying to do
- 26:31Speaker 1: so on YouTube as well and being unsuccessful. The boys
- 26:35Speaker 1: saw how successful these murderers were in becoming famous with
- 26:39Speaker 1: these horrible acts that they were committing. They soon began
- 26:43Speaker 1: talking about how they too could go kill people, and
- 26:46Speaker 1: how they could do it even better and how famous
- 26:48Speaker 1: they would become as a result. They spent countless hours
- 26:52Speaker 1: studying the actions, outcomes, and everything to do with the
- 26:56Speaker 1: spree killers and school shooters. Robert and Michael decided to
- 27:00Speaker 1: that they too were going to find their fame the
- 27:02Speaker 1: same way, but they aimed to get an even higher
- 27:06Speaker 1: body count than the rest.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Jeez, this is unbelievable.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Yeah it is. These two they just wanted.
- 27:13Speaker 2: To kill and this is just their ticket to fame. Yep,
- 27:17Speaker 2: what they're thinking.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted to stalk up on weapons and their
- 27:22Speaker 1: plan was to drive across America, unloading and killing anyone
- 27:26Speaker 1: they pleased. As they did so. Oh yep, with their
- 27:29Speaker 1: imaginations leading them through the scenario over and over and
- 27:33Speaker 1: over again, they were confident. They were confident that they
- 27:37Speaker 1: could easily rack up a body count of over fifty individuals,
- 27:41Speaker 1: giving them the fame that they desired.
- 27:43Speaker 2: What a fucking goal to have.
- 27:45Speaker 1: Right, No shit good, It's disgusting, disgusting the that someone
- 27:49Speaker 1: goes that way. I could be famous if I just
- 27:52Speaker 1: kill enough people, like fuck.
- 27:54Speaker 2: You, no kidding.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Well, they began to stalk up and Robert started orring
- 28:00Speaker 1: guns and ammunition online. And allegedly I didn't research this
- 28:04Speaker 1: one so much, especially considering it's a bit of a
- 28:08Speaker 1: taboo topic. It's kind of hard to really find out
- 28:10Speaker 1: for sure unless you really go through application processes, and
- 28:13Speaker 1: I'm not about to apply, especially not being a resident
- 28:15Speaker 1: of the United States of America. But allegedly Robert was
- 28:18Speaker 1: able to order these things online without a license. Okay,
- 28:23Speaker 1: but in late July he received a notification that a
- 28:25Speaker 1: large shipment of ammunition would be delivered to their home
- 28:28Speaker 1: on July twenty third. He quickly realized their parents would
- 28:32Speaker 1: be wondering why exactly he had ordered so much ammunition,
- 28:36Speaker 1: which was over one thousand rounds of forty five caliber
- 28:39Speaker 1: bullets and two hundred and fifty twelve gaue shotgun shells.
- 28:45Speaker 1: And that is when he came up with the plan.
- 28:48Speaker 1: He was going to get rid of his family. So
- 28:50Speaker 1: he accept the shipment and get ready for his assault
- 28:53Speaker 1: across the country. And so he did, which brings us
- 28:58Speaker 1: right up to where we left off, with an absolute
- 29:01Speaker 1: massacre occurring inside their home and the boys being arrested
- 29:04Speaker 1: in the woods.
- 29:07Speaker 2: You good, I okay, I would not have even ever
- 29:12Speaker 2: guessed that, Like, this is just getting more and more
- 29:16Speaker 2: and more fucked.
- 29:18Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. The reasoning is absurd. Oh, I got
- 29:20Speaker 1: a package coming. My parents are gonna ask questions.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Maybe no, not, let me expect kill the whole family.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna kill everyone.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Wow. And then they were so they were planning to
- 29:31Speaker 2: kill them probably like just keep the bodies in the
- 29:34Speaker 2: house and then go on their little adventure.
- 29:37Speaker 1: I'll tell you about that here soon.
- 29:40Speaker 2: Oh thank goodness that one boy was able to phone
- 29:44Speaker 2: the police. Hey, like, thank goodness.
- 29:46Speaker 1: Yep. Now, the Bever brothers were arrested and taken to
- 29:51Speaker 1: the Broken Arrow City Jail, where they were interviewed in
- 29:53Speaker 1: the morning of July twenty third. Now, while the Broken
- 29:56Speaker 1: Arrow Police Department released footage of Michael's interrogation, which is
- 30:00Speaker 1: available on YouTube to watch, and I have watched it.
- 30:02Speaker 1: It is unsettling. Good job in that interrogator because I
- 30:06Speaker 1: can't imagine being him. He did a very good job
- 30:08Speaker 1: of playing buddy buddy with him, okay, And you could
- 30:11Speaker 1: see on his face that a few times it's like
- 30:14Speaker 1: fucking hurting him because the cell phone was allegedly it
- 30:18Speaker 1: was Robert's cell phone that was like used in the
- 30:21Speaker 1: call and smashed, and so he's describing like how he
- 30:24Speaker 1: took the phone and he smashed it, and the interviewers like, oh, well,
- 30:27Speaker 1: whose phone was it? And Robert's like, it was mine,
- 30:29Speaker 1: and the interviewer's like, oh, well, now you don't have
- 30:31Speaker 1: a phone. He's like having to like joke about it,
- 30:33Speaker 1: like oh huh, and you could see like he does
- 30:37Speaker 1: like he does not want to be laughing right now,
- 30:39Speaker 1: but he's like making light of the situation to try
- 30:41Speaker 1: and buddy him up and get more information.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just trying to like do his job.
- 30:46Speaker 1: The best he can, and he did phenomenal, but you
- 30:48Speaker 1: can tell it was killing him on the inside for him. Yeah, yeah,
- 30:53Speaker 1: So sorry, that was Michael, sorry, not Robert. There was
- 30:56Speaker 1: Michael during the interview and doing that, but Robert, his
- 30:59Speaker 1: interview was allegedly sealed by court order and has not
- 31:02Speaker 1: been released to public. Allegedly, during his interview, Robert reportedly
- 31:07Speaker 1: glorified and boasted about the murders, vivorously revealing his desire
- 31:11Speaker 1: for fame and media attention.
- 31:14Speaker 2: Okay, so they're like hiding that for to kind of
- 31:18Speaker 2: keep some sort of goodness in humanity.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, well, you want fame and you're boasting
- 31:23Speaker 1: like this, yet you're not going to get it.
- 31:24Speaker 2: Then yeah, fuck you, we're closing this.
- 31:28Speaker 3: So.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Michael recounted that the planning began two months prior to
- 31:33Speaker 1: the actual murder, when Robert discovered that the you know,
- 31:36Speaker 1: purchase of guns and ammunition online with or sorry, that
- 31:39Speaker 1: he could do that without needing a permit, and their
- 31:42Speaker 1: original plan involved killing their family, dismembering the bodies, and
- 31:45Speaker 1: storing them in the attic oh. Afterwards, he intended to
- 31:49Speaker 1: take the family's GMC yukon on a cross country killing
- 31:53Speaker 1: spree towards Washington State, randomly shooting people at gas stations
- 31:57Speaker 1: and restaurants along the way. Michael eventually disclosed that their
- 32:01Speaker 1: ultimate goal was to achieve notoriety and quote set a record,
- 32:07Speaker 1: although he insisted that these ambitions primarily belonged to Robert.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Michael claimed that he hadn't directly killed anyone and only
- 32:15Speaker 1: participated under Robert's threat of death.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Do you recall if Robert was is he the older brother?
- 32:23Speaker 2: I know that wasn't much aged.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Robert is the older. Robert is eighteen, and Michael is.
- 32:29Speaker 1: I saw some reports of him saying seventeen or sixteen,
- 32:33Speaker 1: so he's either sixteen or seventeen. So Robert is an adult.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Michael is a juvenile, okay, which we talk about later. Now. However,
- 32:43Speaker 1: detectives confronted Michael with Robert's statement that he hadn't really
- 32:47Speaker 1: participated or sorry that he had participated. So they're like,
- 32:51Speaker 1: Robert says he didn't participate, and it's like, oh, but
- 32:53Speaker 1: he did, so yeah, and then Michael then sorry, I
- 32:57Speaker 1: keep getting the boys mixed up. Robert's the older, Michael's younger.
- 33:00Speaker 1: So they approached Robert. Michael said he didn't really participate, okay,
- 33:04Speaker 1: and then Robert is like, well, no, he did, and
- 33:06Speaker 1: so they went back to Robert and started to Michael,
- 33:11Speaker 1: and Michael admitted to stabbing his mother from behind, and
- 33:14Speaker 1: it would later be proven with you know, forensic evidence
- 33:19Speaker 1: that he did actively stab others as well as well.
- 33:24Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so he is playing light on what on
- 33:28Speaker 2: his involvement.
- 33:29Speaker 1: He is trying to definitely do that. And I mean
- 33:32Speaker 1: even still despite his claims of like, you know, I
- 33:35Speaker 1: didn't really participate, which was proven wrong, and his claims
- 33:38Speaker 1: of you know, being coerced like or whatever it is,
- 33:40Speaker 1: is brother's going to hold above him. He the evidence
- 33:43Speaker 1: clearly shows premeditation and an active involvement in the murders.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Like not only did he participate in the planning part
- 33:50Speaker 1: of the killing and stabbing his family members, he didn't
- 33:53Speaker 1: report it, He didn't do anything. He planned ahead with
- 33:56Speaker 1: his brother brother, and he took part with his brother.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. I guess I'm just thinking, like
- 34:03Speaker 2: there's a teeny tiny bit maybe of remorse coming out
- 34:07Speaker 2: a little bit with him, as opposed to Robert, who
- 34:11Speaker 2: is just like, Yeah.
- 34:13Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think the remorse may not so
- 34:17Speaker 1: much be remorseful about what he did. It's remorseful of
- 34:20Speaker 1: being caught and.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Like the actions he has to face now, I think.
- 34:24Speaker 1: So, okay, I think so. I mean, there are some
- 34:26Speaker 1: some interviews later on down the like in a couple
- 34:29Speaker 1: of years after, which I did not include in my
- 34:31Speaker 1: write up for this because I was like, fuck you,
- 34:33Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about that. But since we're
- 34:35Speaker 1: on the topic, I might as well. Where he like,
- 34:37Speaker 1: he's talking about how he expects to like just wake
- 34:39Speaker 1: up in the morning and go like talk to one
- 34:41Speaker 1: of his brothers or sisters, but it's like, oh, yeah,
- 34:43Speaker 1: I killed them. H yeah. He's like, I can't believe,
- 34:47Speaker 1: like it actually happened, like we actually went through with that.
- 34:50Speaker 1: I feel like I should just be able to go
- 34:51Speaker 1: talk with my family, but they're gone, I killed them.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Oh okay. It's almost like he just has he's like compartmentalized.
- 34:58Speaker 1: Or something compartmentalized.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Yet yeah, it in his head.
- 35:01Speaker 1: I think it's it does come down to the fact
- 35:04Speaker 1: that their upbringing and being a bit shielded, so it's
- 35:06Speaker 1: like they're like, yeah, we can go do this thing.
- 35:09Speaker 1: We can kill people, and it's like they're not really
- 35:11Speaker 1: understanding the repercussions. They fully knew they were killing someone,
- 35:16Speaker 1: but they never thought about, oh, thirty years down the road,
- 35:20Speaker 1: they're still gone. Thirty years down the road, I still
- 35:23Speaker 1: killed them. Thirty years down the road, I'm still going
- 35:25Speaker 1: to be serving rather than like they're probably like, oh,
- 35:29Speaker 1: we're going to be famous. People are going to fucking
- 35:30Speaker 1: be talking about us. That's all they were thinking about
- 35:33Speaker 1: down the road, not what it actually means to do
- 35:37Speaker 1: something so fucking vile.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Okay, that's really interesting, hey, holy so.
- 35:44Speaker 1: On July thirty first, the brothers were formally charged with
- 35:48Speaker 1: five counts of first degree murder and one count of
- 35:51Speaker 1: assault and battery with intent to kill for attacking Crystal.
- 35:57Speaker 1: By the Friday, Crystal was in stable condition, but required
- 36:01Speaker 1: multiple surgeries over the following months, and as I already
- 36:03Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, she did survive.
- 36:06Speaker 2: It's incredible.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Both brothers pleaded not guilty to the charges. Despite Michael
- 36:12Speaker 1: being a minor, he was charged as an adult.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Good okay.
- 36:16Speaker 1: His defense team filed a motion to have him tried
- 36:19Speaker 1: as juvenile, but the appeal failed. In October twenty fifteen,
- 36:23Speaker 1: a Tulsa County judge ruled that Michael would be tried
- 36:26Speaker 1: as an adult officially due to the severity of his crimes,
- 36:31Speaker 1: which I can wholeheartedly appreciate and agree makes sense. On
- 36:36Speaker 1: June seventeenth, twenty sixteen, the oldest brother, Robert Bever, attempted
- 36:41Speaker 1: to hang himself in jail by tying a sheet around
- 36:44Speaker 1: his neck and sleeping boat, which is kind of like
- 36:47Speaker 1: this like basket bed sort of situation. I think they
- 36:51Speaker 1: do that to avoid like materials or things it could
- 36:54Speaker 1: use for other purposes. I don't know, but it's this
- 36:56Speaker 1: specific thing for prison anyways, propping this boat up against
- 37:00Speaker 1: the toilet and then like hanging himself off it. But
- 37:03Speaker 1: he was unsuccessful. By September, Robert's defense strategy shifted from
- 37:08Speaker 1: his original not guilty and he accepted a plea deal
- 37:12Speaker 1: in order to avoid the death penalty. Being that he
- 37:16Speaker 1: was eighteen, he was up for the death penalty. Okay,
- 37:20Speaker 1: so this had an upside to it as well that
- 37:23Speaker 1: we are going to like this meant that it spared
- 37:26Speaker 1: Crystal from being showing up in court. She would avoid
- 37:32Speaker 1: any sort of testifying against her brother in trial, and
- 37:36Speaker 1: of course preventing a lot of trauma that would potentially go.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Along, right. Well, yeah, and like she's already facing just
- 37:43Speaker 2: immense trauma.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Yeah. So on September seventh, twenty sixteenth, Robert Bever was
- 37:49Speaker 1: sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole,
- 37:54Speaker 1: plus an additional life sentence for the attack on Crystal
- 37:58Speaker 1: Okay total six life sentences. Michael, being a minor, was
- 38:04Speaker 1: not eligible for the death penalty, so his case proceeded
- 38:08Speaker 1: to trial. As he pled not guilty on May ninth,
- 38:11Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Michael Bever was found guilty on all accounts.
- 38:17Speaker 1: On August ninth, Judge Holmes sentenced him to five consecutive
- 38:20Speaker 1: life sentences and an additional twenty eight years for assaulting Crystal,
- 38:25Speaker 1: so essentially the exact same as his brother.
- 38:28Speaker 4: Wow.
- 38:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:30Speaker 1: During the trial, Michael expressed his reluctancy to carry out
- 38:33Speaker 1: the attack on that day. He stated he only went
- 38:36Speaker 1: through with the plan because Robert threatened him and he said, quote,
- 38:40Speaker 1: he was going to do it no matter what he said.
- 38:43Speaker 1: If I didn't, he would kill me two. Although his
- 38:47Speaker 1: exact role in the attack was debated, he was ultimately
- 38:52Speaker 1: a willing participant in the murders on that night, As
- 38:55Speaker 1: it was revealed the planning had occurred for two months.
- 39:00Speaker 2: It's a long time to bring that up to someone
- 39:03Speaker 2: or confess.
- 39:04Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So he took part for two months in
- 39:07Speaker 1: the planning and actually took part that night. There's a
- 39:12Speaker 1: lot you can do in two months, and he didn't
- 39:13Speaker 1: do any of it, so a lot of people speculate
- 39:15Speaker 1: whether he really was, whether it was an actual threat
- 39:19Speaker 1: or not. Is that actually there? Did he actually threaten?
- 39:21Speaker 5: You?
- 39:21Speaker 1: Are you making this up? You're trying to cover your tracks.
- 39:24Speaker 1: So in July of twenty nineteen, Robert Bever attempted to
- 39:30Speaker 1: attack two prison staff members with a shive while behind bars,
- 39:35Speaker 1: but was quickly and easily taken down. As a result,
- 39:39Speaker 1: he received an additional life sentence in twenty twenty for
- 39:43Speaker 1: the assault and battery with a dangerous weapon. So he
- 39:46Speaker 1: is now serving seven consecutive life sentences and he's.
- 39:49Speaker 2: Just obviously continuing to thrive in prison. Hey gosh, wow, this,
- 39:54Speaker 2: I'm that's shocking so correct. I don't know why. Actually,
- 39:58Speaker 2: it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be shocking and all that
- 40:00Speaker 2: he did that.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Yeah, Currently Robert is serving his sentence at Joseph Harp
- 40:05Speaker 1: Correctional Center in Lexington, Oklahoma, while Michael is incarcerated at
- 40:10Speaker 1: Lexington Correctional Center. The two were purposely separated and will
- 40:15Speaker 1: not be seeing the inside of the same prison ever.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably a good.
- 40:21Speaker 1: Idea, Hey, yeah, I think so, especially considering their history
- 40:25Speaker 1: of banning shit together, you know.
- 40:27Speaker 2: And I mean so yeah, just never. They're never going
- 40:29Speaker 2: to see a family member ever again, I feel like I.
- 40:32Speaker 1: Don't think so. I highly doubt that either of their
- 40:34Speaker 1: sisters are going to come visit them.
- 40:36Speaker 2: Wow, huh, Yeah, this is this is just mind blowing
- 40:42Speaker 2: this case.
- 40:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I know when I when I discovered it, I
- 40:45Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck? No, shit, Like, not only
- 40:49Speaker 1: are these two shitty for like what they did, every
- 40:52Speaker 1: fucking reason and excuse that they have is shittier. Yeah,
- 40:56Speaker 1: it's absurd. It blows my mind.
- 40:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that one who phoned nine to one
- 41:00Speaker 2: one is a hero. I agree because just imagine, like
- 41:06Speaker 2: he's he he potentially saved like numerous other people.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Right. Oh yeah, No, they were gonna hopefully get over
- 41:13Speaker 1: to fifty and I don't know if I don't know,
- 41:20Speaker 1: it's hard to say because they intended on staying in
- 41:23Speaker 1: the house a little bit getting their shit together, right,
- 41:25Speaker 1: because they had to take a shipment.
- 41:26Speaker 2: Too, wig wait for the arrival of the shipment, yeah.
- 41:30Speaker 1: The ammunition and stuff. Yeah, so okay, say they had
- 41:34Speaker 1: to wait for the shipment. Would that shipment be arrived
- 41:36Speaker 1: or arriving at the front door would they have cleaned
- 41:41Speaker 1: up the blood? Yeah, would someone have noticed something? I'm
- 41:45Speaker 1: not saying that, you know, it wouldn't have gone unnoticed,
- 41:47Speaker 1: or it would have him just saying like they were
- 41:50Speaker 1: clearly idiots. Obviously they're fucking idiots. Would they have actually
- 41:54Speaker 1: managed to get us, get their shit together to get
- 41:58Speaker 1: the shipment, get their stuff, pack it into the family
- 42:02Speaker 1: vehicle and gone before someone notices.
- 42:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's really hard to say for sure
- 42:08Speaker 2: if they would, but you think, yeah, you think like
- 42:12Speaker 2: a neighbor or something or someone would notice something.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Right well, And the thing is, it doesn't sound like
- 42:17Speaker 1: there was like like the neighborhood was like house house
- 42:20Speaker 1: house house. It sounds like there's like some trees and
- 42:22Speaker 1: like lawns and a bit of property. Like I'm assuming
- 42:25Speaker 1: like probably each house is at least half an acre
- 42:28Speaker 1: property or something like that, which hell, yeah, love that.
- 42:32Speaker 1: So like I don't think it's like immediate vicinity of
- 42:35Speaker 1: like people maybe even being able to see the front
- 42:37Speaker 1: door of your home.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Okay, So.
- 42:41Speaker 1: Now this family murder, the Bever family murder, were of
- 42:44Speaker 1: course one of the most grim crimes in the history
- 42:47Speaker 1: of Broken Arrow. The Bever home after this all occurred
- 42:51Speaker 1: set abandoned for several years, no one was interested in
- 42:55Speaker 1: purchasing the property. With its dark past, it became an
- 42:59Speaker 1: eyesore or for everyone in the community, was only a
- 43:02Speaker 1: reminder of the horrors every time they went past it. Eventually,
- 43:07Speaker 1: under mysterious circumstances, the house burned down suddenly, likely of arson.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Probably yeah, and that occurred on March eighteenth, twenty seventeen.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Huh.
- 43:18Speaker 1: The following month, city Councilor Mike Lester raised enough money
- 43:23Speaker 1: to purchase the property from the city or sorry for
- 43:26Speaker 1: the city, and two years later, on March twenty seventh,
- 43:29Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, Broken Arrow opened Reflection Park in
- 43:34Speaker 1: memory of the victims and the first responders who reported
- 43:37Speaker 1: to the scene where the house once stood.
- 43:39Speaker 2: Oh okay, twenty nineteen.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, And so, to quote that city councilor, he said, quote,
- 43:46Speaker 1: we can never erase the tragedy that occurred here, but
- 43:49Speaker 1: we are making a statement with Reflection Park that we
- 43:52Speaker 1: will not allow evil to define who we are and
- 43:56Speaker 1: the high standards we hold as a community.
- 44:00Speaker 2: Oh that's really nice. Actually, hey, so props to that
- 44:03Speaker 2: city councilor no kidding.
- 44:05Speaker 1: And that is the case of the Broken Arrow killings.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Huh wow, my heart just feels like so heavy right now,
- 44:14Speaker 2: like this is this is brutal. I feel like we
- 44:16Speaker 2: haven't done this brutal of one in a while. Yeah,
- 44:20Speaker 2: like I could just solve right now. It's unbelievable. Yeah,
- 44:24Speaker 2: it's unbelievable.
- 44:25Speaker 1: It is. Everything about it is so fucking heavy, everything
- 44:31Speaker 1: right down to their reaction of should we do it now?
- 44:34Speaker 1: Like at the very beginning, like it's so casual, which
- 44:38Speaker 1: I believe it was the younger brother turning to the
- 44:40Speaker 1: older brother like should we do it now? And he's
- 44:41Speaker 1: like yeah, And then there's they clearly planned like how
- 44:45Speaker 1: they're going to do this. They probably planned on calling
- 44:48Speaker 1: someone in like hey, check us out in the computer,
- 44:49Speaker 1: because that's what they just went into. They probably fucking
- 44:52Speaker 1: rehearsed it, choreographed it or some shit.
- 44:55Speaker 2: Oh. I mean I am thankful that like or Autumn
- 45:01Speaker 2: has crystal right so do but still well.
- 45:05Speaker 1: And one of the details about this that is so
- 45:08Speaker 1: fucked up is that they plan to decapitate Autumn, the
- 45:13Speaker 1: two year old sister, the youngest sister. Why why that's
- 45:20Speaker 1: not just killing someone there there's pleasure in that. Yeah,
- 45:24Speaker 1: there is a sick, twisted, fucked up kind of pleasure
- 45:27Speaker 1: in doing that.
- 45:28Speaker 2: Well, like, because what did the siblings exactly do to them?
- 45:31Speaker 2: You know, like you said that the dad, you know,
- 45:36Speaker 2: was a little bit abusive, right, Yeah, so it makes sense.
- 45:39Speaker 2: But like or I'm also thinking maybe they were super
- 45:42Speaker 2: jealous potentially of like autumn or the younger kids. Maybe
- 45:46Speaker 2: they felt like the parents gave them more attention or
- 45:49Speaker 2: they got more or something.
- 45:50Speaker 1: None of that came up. Huh, none of it came up.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, there's like so much hatred. A lot
- 45:57Speaker 2: of them got stabbed like so many times, right, which is.
- 46:00Speaker 1: I don't think it was hatred. I personally don't think
- 46:03Speaker 1: it was hatred. I don't think any abuse that they
- 46:07Speaker 1: may have had from their father played any part in this.
- 46:12Speaker 1: I think if it did, all it did was feed
- 46:14Speaker 1: them to be a little bit aggressive. But I don't
- 46:18Speaker 1: think any of it played out in hatred. If anything
- 46:21Speaker 1: was hatred, it was they probably only did it to
- 46:24Speaker 1: their father.
- 46:26Speaker 2: Gosh, well, it's just it's unfathomable to me though that this,
- 46:29Speaker 2: Like it's just yeah, I'm trying to like come up
- 46:31Speaker 2: with reasons, but there's just there's.
- 46:33Speaker 1: No well, That's why I think it's so fucked up
- 46:36Speaker 1: that they're just going to decapitate a two year old's head,
- 46:38Speaker 1: because why would there be hatred at a two year
- 46:40Speaker 1: old And you're going to do the most grotesque thing
- 46:43Speaker 1: to them? What the fuck?
- 46:46Speaker 2: Well, they maybe thought they could like easily more easily, right, because.
- 46:50Speaker 1: They're to me, it's to me, it's a statement of
- 46:53Speaker 1: their legacy. They wanted to get so many kills, and
- 46:56Speaker 1: they probably pictured what people are going to say when
- 47:00Speaker 1: they find their family members in the home.
- 47:04Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:04Speaker 1: I think they did it with a specific intention of
- 47:07Speaker 1: leaving behind a legacy. We stabbed them so many times.
- 47:11Speaker 1: It was so brutal. We'd cut off a two year
- 47:13Speaker 1: old's head, and they fucking loved it.
- 47:18Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my gosh, holy shit.
- 47:21Speaker 1: I think it had everything to do with they were striving.
- 47:26Speaker 2: To Yeah, this I don't know. This case to me
- 47:29Speaker 2: is just it's just something I just can't understand.
- 47:32Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, yeah, so that's the case. Hopefully you
- 47:40Speaker 1: got through it. Hopefully you're able to stomach this one.
- 47:42Speaker 1: It is fucked up. These two are going to be
- 47:44Speaker 1: behind barsh the rest of their fucking life, and good riddance,
- 47:49Speaker 1: and like you said, hopefully they never do see another
- 47:52Speaker 1: family member's face for the rest of their life. Yeah,
- 47:55Speaker 1: because they don't deserve it.
- 47:56Speaker 2: No, no, no.
- 47:58Speaker 1: And I hope so much that Autumn Crystal live amazing
- 48:03Speaker 1: lives and they're there to support each other.
- 48:05Speaker 2: I know, I really hope that their lives are good.
- 48:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 48:09Speaker 2: Oh, that would be my one wish for sure. So wow.
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- 48:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still okay processing like presenting and just having
- 48:38Speaker 2: to listen, right, there's a big difference because you know
- 48:41Speaker 2: what's going to be said, ye, and I'm over here
- 48:44Speaker 2: just being like, what the fuck just happened?
- 48:47Speaker 1: Yeah, for the most part, I've already processed all that
- 48:49Speaker 1: what the fuck because I've been researching for days, right,
- 48:52Speaker 1: so I've already gone through it. And you're sitting here
- 48:55Speaker 1: gob smacked at this point, just like, yeah, oh very.
- 48:58Speaker 2: Much so this episode. So I feel like sorry if
- 49:00Speaker 2: I'm just in the clouds right now. But anyway, that
- 49:03Speaker 2: was good. I mean, you did a good job. You
- 49:06Speaker 2: did a good job. Sorry, that came out really fucked up.
- 49:09Speaker 1: That was horrific. Yeah and uh that and we will
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- 49:14Speaker 2: Yeah, So until next time, stay wicked.