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EDP41: Australian XC Selection Trials / Valencia Marathon Preview / GB Euro XC Team · Easy Double podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to the Easy Level Podcast, episode 41.
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  We're recording on our Sunday evening slot, so hopefully this
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  comes out nice and early and people won't be waiting all week
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  to listen to it. So I'm joined, as always by Dean
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  Menzies up the road in Perth. How are you doing?
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  Back, little warm, but doing well.
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  Yeah, just had to whack my air con on because I was worried
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  about the sweat glistening off my forehead during this record.
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  Make sure that Instagram snip looks the part.
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  And then quite contrary to how our Irishman's doing over there,
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  I imagine. How are you, Owen?
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  Yeah, guys, it's it's gone awful cold over here even though
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  during the week got a bit humid for like 2 days.
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  Like I went out for a run on a Wednesday on a parent for the
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  worst and then I was like sweating my ass off.
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  It was like really humid. But it's got it's after getting
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  cold again. So yeah, it's no fun over here.
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  Snow where you live? You can get sometimes it does
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  because like it rains so much when it gets to a certain
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  temperature, that rain obviously turns to snow.
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  So yeah, I don't know if it will snow this year.
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  It's weird. Now, I think like global warming
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  is actually real because I feel like now we get like two
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  different extremes. Like during the summer, it
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  actually gets pretty warm and we can get like pretty like cold
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  winters now. So yeah, I don't know if it's
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  forecast for the coming weeks, but we might get a bit of snow.
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  And I don't know about by you, but by like where I come from,
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  if it snows, although it like only ever gets like an inch or
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  two and then just tends to sleet instantly because we're like
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  coastal, it hardly ever sticks. It still causes chaos and like
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  schools or clothes and all this. Whereas like in America it can
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  snow like 3/4 and they just get the snow plows out and get on
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  with it. Yeah.
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  We don't have the facilities for that over here either.
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  It's just, yeah, sleet. It just causes chaos on the
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  roads. Well, I hope for your sake that
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  the the roads don't get too icy because Young got your treadmill
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  back up and running, no? But this week I am actually got
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  a gym membership so I'll try about that during my week but
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  I'm I think I've got that stuff covered now.
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  Who's the lucky franchise? Oh, just this small one.
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  I was actually going to buy a treadmill off this guy and but
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  like again, it's going to cost like 5 grand, like 3 1/2 to 5
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  grand for a new one or a good second hand 1.
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  So I was like hmm, well I just pay like £40 a month for like 3
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  or 4 months or cough out a couple of grand for a treadmill.
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  And like just my current financial situation is, I think
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  the £40 a month is a better, better financial choice.
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  May even encourage you to do like some strength work whilst
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  you're in there too so it could be a little bonus.
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  I'm sort of good with the strength work.
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  I just, I just said I do on a Wednesday on a Thursday with my
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  coach. So I'll probably just stick to I
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  wish there was a special like thing you could get like just
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  use the treadmill and just get a like get your membership cheaper
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  because I won't use any of the big like weights there.
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  So look, I'm just happy I have a treadmill under my feet now
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  during the week I can use. Speaking of strength work and
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  being committed to it, it's Monday evening tomorrow, isn't
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  it Dean? Yeah mate, look forward to
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  seeing you there like I do every Monday and still haven't seen
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  you once. How many?
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  How long have you been going for now?
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  12 weeks I think. Somehow I've found a way to not
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  get there once. It's you had a busy Monday
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  night, obviously. Always something crops up on a
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  Monday. What is this?
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  I just like a facilitated SNC class on a Monday night.
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  And Ryan doesn't go. That Ryan's encouraged to
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  attend, that often has a conflict.
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  Ryan, get your finger out and go to this shit.
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  It's good for you. Very, very good, very well
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  facilitated. An hour of quality gym work.
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  Yeah, I very much enjoy it. Well, that this, that was part
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  of my reasoning for bringing it up, because now it's on public
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  platform, I have no excuse not to.
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  So I'll see you there tomorrow. He told me the other week to
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  message him on a Monday morning and remind him and then he
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  pinned I think to our group chat the time because I'm not going
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  to message you every Monday. But it's not helped, so maybe
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  this will help. Ryan, what's more important on a
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  Monday night? Monday Night Football if I was
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  living at home, but that's like 4:00 AM.
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  So anyway, let's go into it. We've got the Australian cross
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  country selection trials results, GB announced their team
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  for the European Cross Country Championships on the back of the
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  Liverpool Cross Challenge last week, and we've got a huge
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  Valencia preview as that Valencia marathon is next
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  weekend. So we'll talk about the fields
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  and what we think might happen there.
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  Grand Slam track, we're back in the news this week again,
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  obviously not for positive reasons, surprise, surprise.
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  So we'll speak about that. YouTube Diaries might link into
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  the Valencia preview and I'm sure we'll find the double
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  trouble or two along the way. So on Friday evening, Australia
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  cross country selection trials happened in Stromlo, Canberra in
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  the capital and it was Friday night on the light solo.
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  The sun was still setting. It was kind of like a nice, nice
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  ambience in the in the in the sky.
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  And we found out beforehand because I wouldn't keenly
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  emailed us. Is it athletic Australia or
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  Australian athletics? Now I get mixed up a a either
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  way. They've done a big reround or
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  something, I don't know what is that?
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  I'll look at their Instagram right now.
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  Yeah, make sure we get it right. But they change from one to the
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  other. So anyway, I only emailed them
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  to ask if there was a live stream seen as we were here on
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  last week's record and glow in about how good the live stream
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  would be and kind of plugging it to all the listeners.
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  And then we got a couple of messages on the morning of
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  asking how do we actually watch the live stream.
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  Then seen as users have been speaking about it and
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  coincidentally a A had replied to Owen and just said no live
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  stream. And I'm not sure that kind of
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  formed anything what happened after, but may perhaps another
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  Australian podcast inside running.
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  We're getting the same sorts of questions and luckily for them
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  and luckily for us, they had some feet on the ground over
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  there. So they managed to actually go
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  live on Instagram and provide an unofficial stream, which was
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  quite fun to be fair. Because besides actually being
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  able to watch the race through the Instagram Live, people in
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  the comments whilst watching it were also like kind of
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  commenting on the race and like things they were watching
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  unfold. So it was, it was proper like
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  grassroots stuff, but it just shows that there's such a kind
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  of low bar or low expectancy for these live streams when
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  something like that, someone running around with the phone on
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  course is received so well because literally all's we want
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  is to be able to see what's happening.
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  And I think it was Croaks. He was running around with his
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  phone and going from kind of like 9:50 and following the
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  action as it unfolded. I was kind of in and out of it
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  because it was 4:15 PM on Friday for us and I was still in the
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  office so was trying not to just be sat there on my phone
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  blatantly, but you know, these things call.
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  So anyway, what happened was Cameron Myers kicked past Seth
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  O'Donnell right on the end to take victory in 2943, Seth being
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  just behind him. 2944 after making a big move with perhaps
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  3K to go. Seth was kind of like 5 to 10
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  meters off the front of the group and in that group behind
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  was Morgan McDonald who ended up finishing third in 2947.
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  Ed Marks was fourth in 2950, Isaac Haim 5th 2958 and Tom
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  Dicanto 6th in 3012. So the reason why I read 6
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  results out there is because the team to go to Florida for the
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  world cross country is comprised of six people.
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  Now ironically not that that means that the top 6 here will
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  make up that team. So what they've done so far is
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  they've confirmed that Seth O'Donnell is a lock and that
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  Morgan MacDonald is a lock because Cam Myers, despite
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  winning the race, has said that he wants to compete in the two
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  by two mixed relay. So two men, two women, therefore
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  opening up another spot and also allowing the third place
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  finisher in the race, Morgan McDonald, to be guaranteed a
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  spot. So the top 2 are guaranteed
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  before I read the women's results.
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  Any comments on that boys? Yeah, So I actually tuned in at
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  like just the right time. I tuned in and set.
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  I think they're in a bunch and then set.
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  McDonald made a break and I think he'd like 50 meters on
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  them. And then Croaks was running
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  across by. He was puffing hard now, poor
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  Croaks. I don't know how much fitness
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  he's capped, but he was working hard to run across the course.
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  And then, yeah, I'd say, what, 800 meters to go?
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  And like, Cam Myers was still way back and I'd say he made-up
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  like 30 meters in the last 800 meters.
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  And he kicked so hard to kick past.
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  I think he was like 4th or 5th and he, yeah, he pulled them all
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  back in. But like you sort of have, you'd
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  have to burn him off fairly well.
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  Like he's kick would be outrageous.
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  So yeah, Cam Myers kicked hard, but the two boys that you took
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  would have been favorites to win it.
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  Yeah, and we all tipped have to, didn't we?
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  But he was a DNS. Yeah, I think in the end that
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  tipping you got also allocated also allocated Cam Myers didn't
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  yet or no, but yeah, because we're saying have to.
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  And then I was like, no, we can't all go the same person.
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  So you you can claim the winner there.
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  Yeah, if I was allowed my tip I would have got it wrong, but I'm
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  glad I had to had to change it. Although a bit of a turn around
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  from like say the 5K where remember we watched it run the
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  national 5K champs when it was Seth and Kyle Robinson that were
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  too strong and they sort of kicked away from Cam.
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  Cam didn't seemingly have the strength to hang like the middle
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  distance strength to hang with those guys.
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  Whereas yeah, he must be getting fitter and fitter and home
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  ground advantage must have helped as well.
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  He actually referenced that in his in his interview because
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  that that was kind of another thing what they'd done on the
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  live stream. Crokes is just bouncing up to
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  them all with his phone at the end and saying, do you mind
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  doing an interview? And it's the most informal thing
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  ever, But it's exactly what you need, like just someone asking
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  the athletes questions immediately after they finished.
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  And Cam says, I thought I was done with like 3.5 K to go.
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  But because I've run here so often and know where all the
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  markers are on the course and I was literally just counting them
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  down, counting them down and making sure that like I just
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  kind of stayed in it. But I reckon from Seth's point
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  of view, he must have thought he'd done enough.
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  Because like you would assume if you can gap the short distance
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  guy, then he's gone and he's not coming back.
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  And Cam must have, he must have thought that at some point
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  himself and then he's just found it within him to get back on.
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  And they similarly they asked Seth like like do you think you
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  made your move too early or do you think you've done anything
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  wrong type of thing? And he was like, Nah, it's like
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  it's what I plan to do. And like I thought I'd done it
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  pretty well and Cam was just better than me basically.
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  But you are right to draw comparison to that 5K where he
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  couldn't get back on and now this is 10K so shows.
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  So with this team, you think Cam Cam Myers goes for the relay and
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  then you just throw Kai Robinson in if he puts his name forward
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  and then that's your 6. You would think so, although
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  they did, they have. So for the places that aren't
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  allocated via the top 2 guaranteed they've offered some
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  like kind of framework if you like, as in like time standard.
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  So for the men, they've said 29 minutes flat or better and
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  they've given a qualification period of since the 1st of May
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  2025. So they're basically saying that
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  people need to have run a good 10K since May, which obviously
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  given that the world champs happened in September.
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  And unless you're running the 10K at world champs, you're not
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  really going to be running 10 KS during that period is a bit of a
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  mad window. So I was kind of looking at it
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  in terms of like who's run what since then?
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  Because so you've got I was when I was looking at, I reckon Ed
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  Marks and Isaac Kane definitely keep their place because Isaac
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  Kane has run the third fastest 10K of all Australians during
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  that period, as well as his 5th place finish here.
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  So he's run 2815. So I think he's a lock because
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  of that. And then Ed Marks, so he's
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  finished fourth here. So obviously that's top six.
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  And he's also ran 2837 for the 7th fastest time during this
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  qualification period. So that then leaves me to
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  believe that the spot that Cam Myers has vacated and
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  potentially unfortunately, the 6th place spot of Tom Dicanto is
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  potentially like up for debate via the selectors discretionary
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  decisions. And who knows, they may say,
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  yeah, Tom finished top 6 so he takes that space.
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  But knowing how these things tend to go, I would be surprised
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  if that was the case because otherwise they would just have a
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  pure selection, race and outline.
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  Top 6 go. And you also have like, Sam
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  Clifford to pop popped into this, like if I don't know
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  what's happening with him, if he's injured or not, but surely
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  he's another name that can go into the hat.
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  So that's the thing, it depends on these people who like he's
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  got the national record on the roads.
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  So like if him or Jack Rayner put the hand up and say like,
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  hey, I wouldn't mind doing that. By the way, do they then take
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  one of these spots? Because the selectors have kind
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  of given themselves an out in being able to slot them in by
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  basically saying only the top 2 are guaranteed.
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  Which you would you would hate to.
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  As much as you want to have your best team there, you also want
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  the people who've gone and ran the trial to be rewarded because
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  otherwise like literally what's the point of having it?
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  You might as well just have 6 discretionary places.
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  Yeah, surely there's a lot of like weight given to the people
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  that ran the trials, like particularly if you're
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  Australian based, Like putting aside perhaps Kyle Robinson, who
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  has to travel halfway across the world, but Morgan McDonald still
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  made the trip out. Like you just think those people
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  should be. There should be a very strong
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  case to argue against people that didn't make the trials,
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  like were they injured or like why didn't they make the effort
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  to race if they really want to Rep, you know, represent in a in
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  a month's time, a few weeks time.
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  Yeah, there's arguments to be had everywhere.
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  So like all the guys who are going to Valencia, they will
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  obviously say, well, I didn't race because I had Valencia
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  Marathon. But then you could also say,
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  well, that's because you're doing that in your personal
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  interests. Like you've chosen to prioritize
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  run the first time in Valencia, whereas these people have chosen
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  to prioritize trying to qualify for the team, like legitimately.
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  But say in Tom's case, he's he's running Valencia and he still
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  did it. And he beat, yeah.
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  And he and he beat. And it wasn't like Liam Burdon,
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  Tim Vincent, Ed trippers like the the the guys he's beaten as
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  well are all like guys that have just, you know, the odd singlets
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  have just come off the back of very a very good year as well
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  over distances that traditionally cross country and
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  marathon runners are often, you know, go hand in hand.
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  So yeah, you certainly hope that selectors apply, you know, apply
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  the right discretion, the the right weightings to things when
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  they make a decision. Yeah, you would like to think so
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  and particularly in in that case there Brett and have to are also
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  doing Valencia. If like for example one of them
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  said they wanted to do the world cross even though they've got
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  faster times on paper than Tom, you'd like to think they'd still
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  go with Tom given he made the sacrifices to run this trials.
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  And posted the result. Finished top six, yeah.
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  You see in 7th was Dave McNeil, who I thought had effectively
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  retired from running right like. He was off the front in the
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  first Chaos I. Saw that.
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  Yeah, that's cool. Gives me hope.
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  They got those guys a couple of years older than me, so you
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  never know. Just to get yourself done the
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  cross country scene next year. That.
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  Could be where you take your your wins for the women.
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  Then we had Leanne Pompiani won in 3336 from Holly Campbell in
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  3420. So big margin of 44 seconds
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  there. So that means those two are also
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  selected. They take up, excuse me, the
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  first two places on the team. Bronte Oates, who won nationals
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  this year, finished third in 3514, so a further 54 seconds
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  behind. Second place then was Caitlin
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  Adams in 4th 3533, Laura Des in 5th 3552 and Ruby Smee in 6th
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  3609. So I think as we see in this
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  race on paper was always going to be Leanne's.
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  Now that kind of undermines the fact that she's gone out there
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  and absolutely blitz the field. Huge run from Leanne, but no
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  surprises that she's won. I think that could be her like
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  third. Well, cross country if she makes
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  it there, which is some doing. And in terms of how the women's
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  team might look the rest of it, then given that the top 2 spots
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  are automatic, I think Bronzio to finish third also keeps her
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  place because she won nationals as well.
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  And that's also kind of listed in the criteria in the selection
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  policy as like one of the top considerations, all the
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  performances at national cross country.
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  Then you've got Caitlin Adams, Clara Dess and Ruby Smee.
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  So think Ruby Smee. And she finished fourth in the
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  national cross country as well. So you would like to think given
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  she's finished in the top 6IN selection trials and top 4IN
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  nationals, that would be good enough for her.
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  Caitlin Adams, I don't think ran.
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  The Nationals nor did Clara deaths.
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  So that I'm not saying it means that they won't get their spots,
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  but that just opens up the window for discussion basically,
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  doesn't it? And then after listed or noted
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  other women who have run the unofficial qualification time,
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  which I have stated, which for the women is 30 to 30 or better.
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  So here you've got the likes of Rose Davis, Izzy Beth Doyle,
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  Lauren Ryan, they've all ran sub 32 and well, 3034 for Rose, 3044
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  for Izzy and 3127 for Lauren Ryan.
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  So potentially if though, if any of those girls put their hands
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  up, then they're going to give the selectors a bit of a
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  headache as well. And I'm sure also the girls who
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  finished in the top six, they'll be giving them a headache also.
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  When is world's early January? Yeah.
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  And John like is a is the turn around from Valencia for let's
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  say the likes of Izzy, Is that going to be too close?
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  Perhaps for the likes of anyone but Izzy, yeah.
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  Yeah, she is a freak of nature. And also like given Lauren Ryan,
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  so I was thinking about Pat Tiernan as well, because those
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  two are US based. You might think that they would
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  be interested in doing it, but perhaps wouldn't have been
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  interested, although Morgan McDonald was in travelling back
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  for the trials. So I mean, there's all sorts of
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  dynamics going on, isn't there? Pat Tiernan, like never runs.
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  He gets injured, I think, doesn't he?
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  Yeah, I'd be so frustrated if I was him.
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  Like he actually like, when was his last race would have been
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  Boston, but he didn't. Did he finish that?
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  I think he finished, yeah. He was on the front for a while,
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  wasn't he? And then kind of like an invited
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  commas blew up. We end up running like 2 or 8 or
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  something anyway. Oh, OK, fair enough.
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  But like in enough women's field, like Leanne is just like
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  a cut above them. Like in the race, she just like
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  walked it really. She's just like different levels
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  to the game and like she's, she's up there.
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  It's a shame that there wasn't like the likes of Izzy or anyone
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  else there to kind of see how the race would unfold.
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  But I mean, we don't have to wait much longer to see Izzy
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  running again. So that's another good thing.
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  But yeah, I'm sure, I'm not sure when the team is announced.
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  I assume it you'd like to think it would be like this week
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  coming or something. So eyes peeled for that one.
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  I'm sure they'll be some sort of drama as there usually is, but
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  gives us something to speak about.
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  Following on from that, then the Team GB announced their team for
• 22:45
  the European cross, which is in Portugal ahead of the world
• 22:49
  cross. So obviously we had the
• 22:52
  Liverpool cross challenge last week, which we said was kind of
• 22:55
  like the selection race for this.
• 22:57
  And again, the selectors kind of posted a policy which allowed
• 23:01
  them to select people who didn't race at Liverpool.
• 23:07
  But the good thing is, at least for the women, the top 6
• 23:11
  finishers in that race were selected so they've been
• 23:14
  rewarded for 10 and all Actually I tell like despite the 6th, the
• 23:18
  6th finisher. So the top five of Carrie
• 23:22
  Hughes, Poppy Tank, Izzy Fry, Phoebe Anderson and Abby
• 23:25
  Donnelly were all named in the team and they finished top five
• 23:28
  in the race. The 6th finisher in the race was
• 23:31
  Verity Ockenden, the girl who Dean and I spoke about being
• 23:34
  coached by Chris Thompson, so she wasn't selected.
• 23:38
  However in her place was Megan Keith.
• 23:42
  Now you can kind of see why given Megan Keith's calibre as
• 23:48
  she was a top 10 finisher in the 10K in Tokyo, so I imagine
• 23:52
  Verity herself wouldn't have too many complaints with that and
• 23:55
  would have kind of probably seen it coming.
• 23:58
  The weird thing is that I was looking like trying to
• 24:01
  understand why Megan Keith didn't race that given I
• 24:05
  remember Owen speaking about the results at Cardiff the other
• 24:08
  week and like Megan Keith was involved in that.
• 24:10
  So I was thinking why didn't she race Liverpool?
• 24:13
  And she raced a cross country race in Spain last weekend.
• 24:16
  Apparently the Spanish one, the course is going to be like, it's
• 24:21
  very similar to the course in Portugal.
• 24:25
  Liverpool is it was pretty mucky and it was like there was hills.
• 24:30
  Whereas in Portugal is going to be pancake flat on the ground is
• 24:33
  going to be rock hard and it wasn't probably a higher level.
• 24:36
  Like you want Nadia Bada cloudy around that one as well.
• 24:40
  And so you can see where she's coming from.
• 24:43
  But I still would have rather see her race in in Liverpool
• 24:49
  with the other girls because like like she a man, Keith is
• 24:52
  good, but is she that much better than everyone else that
• 24:57
  she doesn't like? Obviously everyone else would
• 24:59
  have run that racing in Spain. Was it Spain, like everyone else
• 25:03
  would have run that race if they had the chance, but they they
• 25:05
  didn't have the opportunity for that because they have to show
• 25:08
  UK Athletics that they're good enough.
• 25:11
  But yeah, some people get special privileges.
• 25:17
  It you just prefer it so much more, if it was rock up to the
• 25:21
  trials, perhaps one discretionary spot in case one
• 25:25
  very solid athlete is injured or sick or something and can't for
• 25:29
  whatever reason, it would make it so much more exciting for
• 25:32
  both athletes and spectators on the day and make it so far less
• 25:37
  ambiguous and political. I I'd like.
• 25:42
  Yeah. It's why the US selection system
• 25:45
  seems to be, again, that their trials are always so exciting.
• 25:49
  The races are so exciting, like these trials where you don't
• 25:52
  even, they don't necessarily. You're not even sure if you did
• 25:57
  enough to be excited about. Like you either know you didn't
• 26:02
  do enough or you might have done enough most of the time.
• 26:05
  I don't know. Yeah, I agree.
• 26:08
  I think that having just that one spot where it's potentially
• 26:11
  open is like the the perfect balance because then say the top
• 26:15
  five, they know they're in. And then even if you finish in
• 26:17
  that sixth spot, you hope that you might be in, but you also
• 26:20
  know you're going to know if like a bloody Josh Kerr or Jake
• 26:24
  Whiteman's injured and they couldn't run, you're going to
• 26:27
  know, OK, well, I probably not go and then I'm actually going
• 26:29
  to put them in my spot. Whereas this it's just all like
• 26:33
  everyone's on the edge waiting for the decision and always
• 26:36
  causes bloody arguments or fallouts.
• 26:40
  But even with the Irish selection so it's 6 for a team
• 26:44
  and with the senior men I'm probably the women I think.
• 26:47
  I'm not sure what the women know.
• 26:49
  Probably is the same actually. Ireland only picked 5.
• 26:54
  Like in Ireland there's a guy called Hugh Armstrong.
• 26:56
  He would have finished. He would have been like the 6th
• 26:59
  senior male across the line. So like he's now not getting a
• 27:04
  chance even though he he should. So he's the lad who ran the 800
• 27:10
  meter in worlds and came forth and like fair enough coming
• 27:15
  forth in worlds 800I. I'd argue that cross country is
• 27:20
  totally different to 800 meters on the track.
• 27:24
  Like surely there is going to be milers out there that have
• 27:28
  proven themselves over cross country that just haven't gotten
• 27:33
  a chance. Like I'd put money on it that
• 27:35
  King Mcphillips probably doesn't win a trial race if it was up in
• 27:40
  Derry in the mock. So yeah, I don't know about the
• 27:47
  just selectors discretion. It's not really fair.
• 27:51
  Why wouldn't he do the mixed relay?
• 27:56
  Kim and Phillips. It is 100m guy, wouldn't you do
• 27:58
  with the 2K? In So this is for Europeans,
• 28:02
  Europeans there's a mixed relay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry, sorry.
• 28:06
  I should have said let's start. But yeah, I just feel like
• 28:09
  there's other like miners out there that we better suited to,
• 28:12
  like they'd have more of a strength base and they'd be
• 28:15
  better suited to like cross country.
• 28:18
  Yeah, well, you see it even when some of these 800 guys on the
• 28:21
  track try and run a 50 in on the track, it's like completely,
• 28:24
  just completely different, let alone 2K on cross country is
• 28:29
  even more detached from it. Yeah, so look, it's, I hate when
• 28:35
  like someone else gets to choose.
• 28:37
  Like I know it has to be done, but I just hate the top of like
• 28:42
  someone else deciding another person's future when technically
• 28:45
  they should like get the chance. Like an Irish fest, like command
• 28:49
  Hugh Armstrong, like he deserves to run, unlike the likes of the
• 28:54
  Uruguayan one in the World Championships.
• 28:56
  I think like every single country should look at that and
• 28:59
  say you bring a full team. Like no way should she have
• 29:02
  gotten a medal, but on her day she turned up and anything can
• 29:05
  happen on the day. So not picking A-Team, you're
• 29:08
  just eliminating yourself. I'm like, you're guaranteed one
• 29:11
  of the big guys is going to have an off day.
• 29:13
  So that's when you need like your 5th and 6th runner that UMM
• 29:17
  can show up. It's yeah.
• 29:18
  I just don't like it. Did I see and I can't remember
• 29:22
  what it was from maybe I think that came Mcphillips as he just
• 29:25
  done an interview with Sunday podcast or he spoke to someone
• 29:28
  anyway and he he was talking about goals for next year.
• 29:34
  Fair play too. Is is pretty aspirational, but
• 29:37
  they sound like quite out there. So I can't quite compute the 400
• 29:41
  time, but he he named the A400 time.
• 29:44
  I don't know what it was or what it means, but he said he also
• 29:48
  wants to run 331 in the 1500. And then once he's ticked off
• 29:54
  both of those things, he knows that he can like start dialing
• 29:58
  in his 800. I was thinking shit like 331 is
• 30:02
  a bit of a high like base to be setting for himself like so many
• 30:08
  5th like soul 1500 meter runners would strive to be running 331.
• 30:13
  He's like a not a junior but a breakthrough 800m runner shall
• 30:20
  we say from this year. Have a fair play to him, be good
• 30:23
  to see him go and do it like. Like, and I could say I'm going
• 30:27
  to go out next year and run sub 14 for the 5K, but like, is that
• 30:32
  a realistic like, stepping stone?
• 30:35
  Like I feel like I'm jumping a few steps there.
• 30:37
  Like unfair. Like he had such a good world
• 30:40
  championship and I wouldn't put it past them.
• 30:42
  But yeah, I don't know what to make of it.
• 30:46
  Do you know who his coaches? Yeah, Joe Ryan.
• 30:50
  He coaches the Saint Cormac Dalton, who came third in
• 30:54
  nationals. Yeah.
• 30:55
  Oh, I see them back to the GB teams because in the men's field
• 31:00
  that there's a little bit of, I don't know if it's caused drama
• 31:03
  over there or not, but when I was looking at it, I thought
• 31:05
  straight away, oh shit, that isn't quite black and white.
• 31:09
  So again, similar set up. The top five have been selected
• 31:14
  for the team top five finishes, which was Scott BT, Rory
• 31:18
  Leonard, Richard Slade, Jacob Kahn and Joe Hudson.
• 31:22
  They're all in now. This guy who finished sixth was
• 31:26
  a Scottish guy, Logan Reece, and he wasn't selected, but the guy
• 31:30
  who was selected was a fella called Callum Johnson.
• 31:35
  And when I kind of looked, I've done a bit of a comparison
• 31:39
  between the two athletes and Callum Johnson, the guy who has
• 31:43
  been selected has 10K best this year of 2910 or an overall PB of
• 31:50
  2849. And Logan Reese, who finished
• 31:54
  sixth in the race has a 10K best this year of 2852, which is 18
• 32:02
  seconds better than Callum Johnson's best this year and
• 32:05
  only three seconds behind his all time personal best.
• 32:09
  And then Logan Reese's personal best is 2814, so a good forty
• 32:16
  note 35 seconds quicker than Callum Johnson's PB.
• 32:21
  So it doesn't make for obvious reason reading as to why they've
• 32:25
  selected him over Logan. The could very well be a clear
• 32:31
  reason. But when I clicked into the
• 32:34
  comments on the British Athletics post to try and like
• 32:38
  gain some clarity or see if people were kicking up a full
• 32:41
  server, it someone had tagged the Logan Reece guy who hasn't
• 32:46
  been selected and said like justice for him.
• 32:49
  So maybe it's not too apparent. I'm, I'm annoyed that I don't
• 32:54
  have any more context or any more information as to why, but
• 32:58
  yeah, that's interesting. I think that is the results wrap
• 33:01
  for this week, so we shall move on to training weeks.
• 33:07
  We've been starting with Owen for eternity whilst Dean and I
• 33:11
  haven't been doing too much. So, Dean, would you like to
• 33:15
  share with us what you've been up to?
• 33:18
  Sure. Yeah, probably very similar to
• 33:21
  the last couple of weeks, just with the progression.
• 33:27
  So I've gone from, you know, 15 minutes 3 weeks ago, twice a day
• 33:32
  to 20 minutes, sorry, two weeks ago or three weeks ago, however
• 33:36
  we want to look at it to 20 minutes and then to 30 minutes.
• 33:39
  So it was 2 by 30 minute runs Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 33:46
  Friday, Sunday, and then Thursday and a bit of incidental
• 33:51
  writing on top of that. And then Thursday the interval
• 33:56
  session on the bike, bike intervals in Kings Park, so
• 34:00
  hilly intervals. And then Saturday a a longer
• 34:03
  ride, about 100 KS of three hours.
• 34:07
  So yeah, feel like I'm moving better in less discomfort as the
• 34:15
  week's gone on, which is good. Everything mechanically is
• 34:18
  feeling better and better, which is nice.
• 34:21
  Yeah. And you can see that my sort of
• 34:23
  paces and my runs are picking up, which is, which is fun.
• 34:27
  But yeah, just still ticking, ticking boxes of the, you know,
• 34:31
  return to to full fitness. Feel like I'm getting a bit more
• 34:34
  aerobically fit on the bike, which has been really nice.
• 34:37
  So sort of keeping up a bit easier on the interval session
• 34:40
  and feeling a bit stronger on the rides.
• 34:43
  That ride on a Saturday was pretty spicy.
• 34:47
  We ended up, the group we were with ended up merging with
• 34:50
  another group that was moving quite quick.
• 34:53
  So it was a good solid ride, which is good.
• 34:55
  Those 3 hour rides, good opportunity to suck down a heap
• 34:58
  of fuel, a heap of bigs product, which is, which is fun.
• 35:04
  Yeah, sort of what I'm using as my long run equivalent.
• 35:08
  That goes for about 3 hours or three hours, 15.
• 35:11
  So it would have been about 6. What did I do?
• 35:16
  6 1/2 hours on the bike and yeah, five hours of running.
• 35:21
  So yeah, 63 KS of running and about 200 KS on the bike.
• 35:24
  So good week. Everything's ticking along and
• 35:26
  some gym, gym work on tops. My fitness feels like it's
• 35:30
  picking up, which is nice. And the return to, you know, my
• 35:33
  running is improving. So I just want to keep putting
• 35:36
  these weeks together and in in increase the load slowly.
• 35:42
  And are you just going to concentrate on like load or will
• 35:45
  you put some intensity into that anytime soon?
• 35:49
  I don't think so. I think I, oh, look, I'm, I, I
• 35:53
  think it won't be until at least I'm running like an hour
• 35:57
  continuously before I do any, any sort of intensity.
• 36:00
  I think so is my guess, but I don't know.
• 36:03
  I just get the program sort of a week at a time and sort of
• 36:08
  taking feedback from Steve, Tim, RAF, everyone that I'm speaking
• 36:14
  to. But I think directionally
• 36:17
  everything's feeling good. I feel like I'm getting, I feel
• 36:20
  like I'm moving well. And directionally, this is
• 36:25
  definitely like where I was two weeks ago to where I am today.
• 36:29
  Feels so much better. So I'll take that.
• 36:31
  And it's getting pretty hot and I feel like I'm getting a bit
• 36:35
  out of the the runs. I did my afternoon ride with
• 36:40
  Aurora on the bike today and so she did well to keep up with
• 36:45
  that and I was trying to sting her up a few of the heels.
• 36:47
  So I'm definitely getting a bit edgy because I was trying to.
• 36:49
  Are you trying? To wouldn't be like it.
• 36:55
  I was just about to ask and like now that you kind of getting
• 36:59
  back into some longer, shall we say, runs like how is the itch
• 37:04
  to kind of like stop pushing the boundary and all this sort of
• 37:07
  stuff. And then you kind of answered
• 37:08
  that for me. Yeah, now I just want to bury
• 37:10
  every run, but I'm. And so yeah, I was like, do I?
• 37:14
  Do I sort of punch into the wind to really try and take the legs
• 37:17
  out from underneath her or where do I?
• 37:23
  And when you mentioned paces, what sort of pace are you
• 37:26
  talking? Like 420 pace around that sort
• 37:31
  of pace. Yeah, because I was experiencing
• 37:34
  similar. Well, you highlighted that like
• 37:35
  my first one minute intervals, like why was I running like 4
• 37:39
  minute K? And I was trying to defend
• 37:41
  myself saying like it just it's only a minute, blah, blah.
• 37:44
  But then the actual like load that you're putting through the
• 37:49
  affected area by running like a 4 minute K versus a 5 minute K
• 37:53
  is like four or five times more or whatever.
• 37:56
  So it's just an idiotic thing to do really for me.
• 38:00
  So that's one thing I've learned from that.
• 38:03
  But you're way more ahead in your journey than I.
• 38:07
  Yeah, but no. But similar themes though, like
• 38:09
  whenever I've gone up in distance or minutes or and
• 38:13
  distance, I've gone back to keeping it at 5 minute, OK until
• 38:17
  I feel like I'm comfortable that the any discomfort or no
• 38:23
  discomforts there. And then as I feel more
• 38:26
  comfortable, I'll start to pick it up.
• 38:27
  But naturally I just wanna go fast all the time, but I can't.
• 38:32
  I know it's not the smart thing to do.
• 38:33
  So I'm just trying to limit, limit, limit myself to what's
• 38:38
  appropriate and appreciate that it's just loading everything up
• 38:43
  and, and we, if I want to chase, we've spoken about this maybe
• 38:49
  separately, but if there's plenty of opportunity in these
• 38:51
  bike sessions that we're doing, if we want to 1 push things and
• 38:54
  we do it in those, it's not smart to be burying my daughter
• 38:59
  on a run. I.
• 39:00
  Think he is. He's itching to bring up the
• 39:03
  fact that I was dropped. Yesterday I'd forgotten what
• 39:07
  happened. Tell tell.
• 39:08
  Us, right? We had the first casualty of one
• 39:12
  of these group rides. Well, how far in where?
• 39:15
  We like 45 minutes or something. And there's a ride that starts
• 39:19
  at because they all are attached to coffee shop seemingly.
• 39:22
  So were we 45 or you were 45 minutes in?
• 39:29
  Let me tell the story. And there's a ride that starts
• 39:35
  up the roads that's like known for being a lot faster or a lot
• 39:38
  better riders than the ones that we ride with.
• 39:41
  And then it just so happens that as we're going out, we all kind
• 39:45
  of like merged. So Dean and I obviously are
• 39:48
  like, OK, well, we'll just go with this group until we can't
• 39:51
  because it'll be fun to just like kind of get the free ride
• 39:54
  off the back of them. And then it was must have been
• 39:58
  around 40 odd minutes or so. And I said to Dean, shit, like,
• 40:01
  I've just clocked my heart rate. There is 174.
• 40:05
  And we've spoken so often about, like, how we've struggled to
• 40:09
  kind of get our heart rate. Into any of these higher zones
• 40:12
  whilst on the bike and weirdly it felt fine, but I soon learned
• 40:16
  that like it feels great until you're riding by yourself as
• 40:21
  soon as we come down this hill and then they all start pushing
• 40:25
  along this like flat road and then all of a sudden there's 5m
• 40:28
  gap and then as soon as there's 5 meters you just you're gone.
• 40:32
  There's no coming back. So I'm Dean done the very loyal
• 40:37
  team player thing that he would do.
• 40:40
  I must admit, Dean, I wouldn't have been waiting.
• 40:42
  I would have been like, well, we've spoken about it every man
• 40:46
  for themselves. And he, he pulled over to the
• 40:49
  sides like 10K up the road and waited.
• 40:51
  But I reckon he must have just got dropped as well.
• 40:55
  I peeled off up the one in the hills looking for you guys and
• 40:59
  there was there was no one and I was better stuff.
• 41:03
  Our whole group had. Our whole group ride had, yeah,
• 41:07
  fallen victim to this group we attached ourselves to.
• 41:10
  But no, my reference was to the fact of 45 minutes was because I
• 41:14
  didn't see you at the early bird ride before then.
• 41:18
  Yeah, very good actually. So be fair.
• 41:20
  You're an hour 45 then. I I'd gotten up for the early
• 41:24
  ride, but albeit that would you believe.
• 41:26
  Oh, and I was a few minutes late and missed the start so I had to
• 41:29
  do the whole thing solo. So wait.
• 41:31
  So you do like you stop him with like different groups.
• 41:35
  Yeah. So the, the group we've we meet
• 41:37
  up with for the main part of the group ride starts at 6:30, but
• 41:43
  an hour before then there's another crew ride that we attach
• 41:46
  to for 45 minutes. And then we disconnect from that
• 41:52
  and head over to the start of the main group ride.
• 41:56
  So it ends up in, I don't know, about 100 KS all up for the
• 41:59
  morning. So yeah, pretty good ride.
• 42:01
  I'm wait again, Ryan, are you fuelling for these cycles?
• 42:06
  Sometimes, yes, they had the banana.
• 42:09
  My God, like the gym session, he sometimes messaged.
• 42:12
  Hey, can you bring us to jail? Ryan, please, Coming back from
• 42:19
  an injury. Well, I know I'm being a bit
• 42:22
  silly, feel very well around there, but like during the like
• 42:29
  marathon sessions and stuff, it's fine.
• 42:31
  Like I enjoy it and I know that it's important part training,
• 42:34
  but there's just something about shoveling a load of gels down me
• 42:37
  whilst on the bike that doesn't make sense.
• 42:40
  But obviously the cyclists consume so much fuel.
• 42:43
  I've got so I take like 3 gels like double scoops in my bottles
• 42:49
  of the powder, 2 bottles, and then if I can I'll refill my
• 42:53
  bottles halfway through the ride because it's getting pretty warm
• 42:56
  now. Ryan's just fast and loose.
• 42:59
  Royal dogging it. Yeah, royal tokens.
• 43:03
  UK. Royal dogging with with non
• 43:07
  cycling shorts too. Everyone's like balls of steel.
• 43:10
  Trying to lose a few K for the returns of run, hit the ground,
• 43:13
  run no, be injured again. That's a re injury waiting to
• 43:17
  happen. No honestly my my calorie intake
• 43:22
  intake per day is probably like 4000 Cal.
• 43:24
  It's just I don't like, I'd rather like after bike ride have
• 43:28
  like a Big Breakfast and like treats throughout the day
• 43:31
  because I'm not trying to fuel to perform on the bike.
• 43:35
  Still have that, but you just need something during the ride
• 43:38
  to stop the bunk, like to stop you being totally depleted so
• 43:41
  you recover better. And yeah, just even some boiled
• 43:46
  eggs in your ass pocket or something keep you going.
• 43:50
  Boiled eggs and like because, and to to reiterate, like it's
• 43:56
  fairly high intensity like these rides like like my heart rate
• 44:02
  for the three hours is 145, which is pretty that's it's a
• 44:08
  fair effort 3 hours like yeah, so anyway.
• 44:11
  Come on Ryan, get your shit together.
• 44:13
  Yeah. Bring him a bottle next.
• 44:16
  Week gym, gym sessions and fuelling on the bike.
• 44:19
  I mean it could be worse though. You remember the conversation we
• 44:22
  had with a few of the guys after the ride last week?
• 44:24
  Dean and your mates like Nah, I'm not eating anything for like
• 44:28
  3 hours. I'm fasting to lose weight.
• 44:32
  And then one of the other guys who is is by no means
• 44:37
  overweight. He's also like referencing that
• 44:40
  he doesn't really fuel all that much.
• 44:42
  None of them do. Deny just like, shit, yeah.
• 44:46
  Yeah, crazy. Before you talk about some
• 44:50
  actual running, well actually I was going to talk about some
• 44:52
  running but in a lower volume. I was going to say with my
• 44:56
  return to run this week, I've had to have not words with
• 45:01
  myself, but just a realization that this period now isn't like
• 45:06
  trying to build fitness and get fit again.
• 45:10
  It's literally like returning to run, like what it says on the
• 45:13
  10, surprise, surprise. But it's all about like tissue
• 45:16
  tolerance. So I was thinking, I've been
• 45:18
  thinking like with my SO start at 5 by 1 minute, up to 10 by
• 45:22
  one minute, 5 by 2 minutes, 5 by 3 minutes.
• 45:26
  And then I'm thinking now do I then start going like 8 by 3
• 45:32
  minutes and 7 by 4 minutes and building it out that way as you
• 45:36
  would if you're trying to get fitter, you know, with your
• 45:39
  sessions, you'll either increase the volume, increase the paces,
• 45:43
  or reduce the rest between to kind of like increase your
• 45:46
  training effect. Whereas this is all about
• 45:49
  isolate and the actual time that my heal and force is under
• 45:55
  mechanical stress. So take these, I'm at 3 minutes
• 45:59
  now, then we go to 4 minutes, then we go to 5 minutes and we
• 46:02
  go to 6 minutes because it's all about padding out that actual
• 46:05
  time that I'm physically able to run for without changing
• 46:09
  anything else. I'm doing it in a way by which
• 46:14
  we do every, every utterance of it.
• 46:16
  So 5 by 3 minutes. Do that twice.
• 46:19
  So the first time is likely to probably cause a little bit of
• 46:22
  discomfort. Then you do it again to make
• 46:25
  sure that it feels fine. So you know then when you take
• 46:28
  your next step to 5 by 4 minutes, if anything goes wrong,
• 46:33
  you know that it's that small change that you've made and you
• 46:36
  just go backwards one step until it all settles and then you go
• 46:39
  again. So it's just about creating like
• 46:42
  a a fail proof or a foolproof environment whereby you can't
• 46:48
  physically make too much of A drastic change.
• 46:52
  So hopefully I'm I'm on the right track with it.
• 46:56
  It'll be as long slow process but I'm enjoying being up to 3
• 47:01
  minutes worth of running because I'm all almost running OK
• 47:05
  non-stop. Well, not in 3 minutes.
• 47:11
  Why? Your head and you'll get there.
• 47:13
  And like, do you do like special activations for your like
• 47:18
  Achilles or your soleus or, I don't know, to like get it more
• 47:23
  engaged or like, is it just your lady at the door, same pair of
• 47:27
  shoes for all these runs or like, are you mixing it up?
• 47:31
  So yeah, I'm keeping the same pair of shoes and same surface,
• 47:35
  which is grass for now. And also, yeah, I'd do in like 4
• 47:38
  different drills for like 3 rounds before a start.
• 47:42
  So we like said to make that the baseline like drills and then we
• 47:47
  layer in the run on top and try and make the run more, more,
• 47:51
  more. Because I think the drills are
• 47:54
  kind of like good for the mechanical side of things as
• 47:56
  well, given that we're not able to do like anything fast or
• 47:59
  anything sharp just gets those muscles fire.
• 48:02
  And because, and Yakub being a Britain, I don't know what even
• 48:06
  injury Yakub had, but he's got this like special like like
• 48:11
  different plates that he uses with like different thicknesses.
• 48:14
  So they're like, like your big toe plays such a big role in the
• 48:19
  way your foot hits the ground and the way it activates or like
• 48:25
  I know, takes all the pressure and works your Achilles in your
• 48:28
  calf. So he's got these like plates
• 48:31
  that he uses with all different thicknesses that like activate
• 48:34
  basically the muscles correctly. I just thought it was
• 48:40
  interesting, but no, seems like you're going to the right
• 48:43
  direction. Yeah, I did asked Steve about
• 48:46
  this, like whether or not to be doing it in plated shoes.
• 48:50
  Like although I'd feel like an idiot jogging around in plated
• 48:53
  shoes, if it was to be of benefit, then I would obviously.
• 48:57
  But he said that like the place the stiffness of the shoe
• 49:03
  reduces the like the tension or the flexion that goes through
• 49:09
  like your foot on your toe, which you would think is a good
• 49:12
  thing. But then eventually when I
• 49:14
  return to run properly and I'm wearing different types of shoes
• 49:17
  and stuff, I might just be creating an environment where
• 49:20
  I'm then going to fall down when it comes to it.
• 49:22
  So I just start in this like everyday shoe and then when I
• 49:29
  actually start wearing plated shoes again that'll be fine.
• 49:32
  Whereas if I only wore plates now and then went to normal
• 49:35
  shoes, that might cause me problems.
• 49:37
  Yeah, yeah, you have to think like long term rather than short
• 49:40
  term. Like short term, yeah mate, that
• 49:42
  might be all right for you, but you need to look at the bigger
• 49:44
  picture and like, like longer term, you need to get your
• 49:47
  Achilles stronger. Absolutely.
• 49:50
  But it feels good to be running. It's bloody lovely.
• 49:54
  And the weather is picking up there as well.
• 49:56
  It looks so nice. I'm just a tiny tiny tiny bit
• 49:59
  jealous. Yeah, it could be a long hard
• 50:01
  winter slog with Dean and I complain about how hot it is and
• 50:06
  you sat there thinking please fuck off.
• 50:08
  It's yeah, it's 38° tomorrow, Ireland, so it will be pretty
• 50:13
  spicy. Would like the equivalent of an
• 50:15
  Irish like 20° day probably. I was so hot I'd ran this
• 50:21
  afternoon. It was about 30° and I was
• 50:25
  thinking about the Irish heat wave as well because it was, it
• 50:29
  was one of those first runs where it's noticeably more
• 50:31
  uncomfortable. But it was quite a dry heat
• 50:35
  though. And I was like, yeah, that's the
• 50:37
  typical perf evaporative sort of hate, the hate we like.
• 50:43
  Your throat and your mouth just gets like parched isn't.
• 50:48
  It bless your water fountains every like 2 kilometers.
• 50:53
  Out of necessity. Canal in Ireland, we've got that
• 50:57
  heat but we don't have any water fan.
• 50:58
  We don't have the facilities you guys have.
• 51:00
  He's got so can't just have a lucky.
• 51:02
  I'm before you say you're weak, one things just come to me.
• 51:06
  I want to say otherwise I'll forget.
• 51:08
  So a few people listeners have been commenting and asking about
• 51:12
  Jeannie Mac. What what it actually means or
• 51:15
  like where it comes from. I haven't a clue.
• 51:20
  Jeannie Mac. Yeah, I really don't know.
• 51:26
  Do I say it that much? Must do.
• 51:30
  Genie Mac I don't know, I think it's just an Irish saying and.
• 51:37
  Would would other people in your town and stuff say it?
• 51:40
  Is it like a colloquialism? Yeah, but now that I say it out
• 51:44
  loud, it actually sounds like very weird.
• 51:46
  Like Genie Mac. Yeah, I don't know that one.
• 51:52
  We need some research into the origins of who Jeannie Mac is
• 51:55
  and what he or she don't to 'cause their name being
• 51:59
  associated with like, shock or something like that, isn't it?
• 52:04
  Yeah, Jeannie Mac. What would you search?
• 52:08
  Why do Irish people say Jeannie Mac?
• 52:10
  Yeah, it's a Irish explanation of surprise and shock.
• 52:16
  It's an old, It's a mild oath that likely originated in
• 52:20
  Ireland and has been used for at least 50 years, sometimes
• 52:23
  associated with Western Ireland, Ireland or Dublin.
• 52:27
  It's a minced oath, a way of expressing surprise or strong
• 52:32
  reaction without using profanity.
• 52:34
  It's like, oh, my goodness or good heavens.
• 52:37
  The term is spread from Ireland to other countries.
• 52:39
  Largely are. Yeah.
• 52:41
  I don't know. It's spelled like Janie, Mac.
• 52:43
  So JANEY and then Mac. This thing I've just search says
• 52:48
  it likely comes from Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
• 52:51
  Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Jesus.
• 52:54
  Jeanie Ma. Yeah.
• 52:56
  I don't. I never.
• 52:57
  Yeah. I never knew I said it that.
• 52:59
  Much you'll be conscious now and won't be saying it.
• 53:04
  That's. Good, right?
• 53:06
  Well, I start my week and so after the race on Sunday, so I
• 53:13
  didn't run Monday morning. And then in the evening I just
• 53:17
  got out for 45 minutes with my brother and I wore like I wore
• 53:23
  the Puma Magmax. And I think that is like my shoe
• 53:28
  of the year. I am.
• 53:30
  I just look forward to putting on.
• 53:32
  It feels good. I feel like I can get rolling
• 53:34
  and yeah, really, really enjoying it.
• 53:39
  What's the colorway? Oh, it's just I got it all black
• 53:42
  because there's no point to getting nice colors nowadays in
• 53:45
  Ireland because it just gets absolutely destroyed.
• 53:50
  The Tuesday I got out for just another Tuesday.
• 53:56
  I got out for 45 minutes in the morning and then just 30 minutes
• 53:59
  in the evening. 2 easy jogs again, just recovering.
• 54:04
  No, I'd normally do a session on a Tuesday, but just to give my
• 54:08
  body that extra time to recover. Wednesday, good day for 60.
• 54:14
  I felt pretty shit on this one. I don't know why I felt like
• 54:18
  just the first half of it, I felt like I was like pushing.
• 54:21
  It was like 13.7 K, 420 threes per kilometer.
• 54:26
  But yeah, I just didn't feel great.
• 54:28
  Just one of them mornings, it's dark, it's gloomy, and yeah, I
• 54:32
  just didn't feel. And it was actually pretty humid
• 54:35
  as well. That might have been it.
• 54:37
  I was like I like stepped out the door getting ready like I'd
• 54:40
  a jacket on 1/2 zip, like a body warmer AT shirt half our full
• 54:45
  length tights, like I was expecting it to be cold and then
• 54:48
  it just wasn't that cold. So then I ended up sweating, but
• 54:54
  and then I done circuits Wednesday evening and Wednesday
• 55:00
  actually on my break and lunch. So I where I live, there is not
• 55:05
  really a gym beside me and because I drive 15 minutes to
• 55:09
  work, I'm like then 8 minutes outside a relatively largely
• 55:14
  populated area called Drata, which would have loads of gyms.
• 55:18
  So I have now my plan from now on is so I drive 15 minutes at
• 55:24
  work, but I'll just keep on going now let's say in the
• 55:26
  morning. So I just going extra early, so
• 55:27
  an extra 8 minutes and I've signed up for a gym andrada,
• 55:31
  which has like these like nice treadmills, showers and all.
• 55:35
  So for my Thursday I so I just have to be like ultra prepared.
• 55:42
  So like I've a little jar of overnight oats.
• 55:45
  I've got my lunch as well. I've got like running clothes,
• 55:51
  I've got like shower clothes for like then work and then after
• 55:57
  Thursday I'd go to gym in my coach's house.
• 56:00
  So I have to like have like a little snack for after work gym
• 56:04
  clothes. So Thursday I basically have
• 56:06
  like a full wardrobe in the car. Who?
• 56:10
  Who packs the overnight oats and those bits and pieces that all
• 56:13
  you or Aden? Helped me.
• 56:15
  No, it's me. It's me.
• 56:18
  She's on dinner. OK, that's yeah, I, yeah, Ryan
• 56:22
  and I'd be struggling with that, but how's Pax?
• 56:24
  My overnight oats. And I know Ryan didn't make it
• 56:27
  to the Thursday threshold session because Becky was away.
• 56:30
  So very impressive. Aden says that's in the next
• 56:34
  tier of a relationship, so I just, I haven't unlocked that
• 56:38
  level yet. Yours is very much like the the
• 56:45
  Josh Care package. Like Josh's chef, you've got AD
• 56:48
  and as part of your crew. Yeah.
• 56:51
  My, my crew's getting big. I've got physio now, we've got
• 56:54
  dietitian coach, man, It's like it takes a village to like
• 56:58
  actually. Rise in Allen, Yeah, basically.
• 57:03
  But Thursday morning, so warm up just trick on the treadmill.
• 57:07
  Then I switched into the New Balance Supercom trainer.
• 57:12
  So I think that is my last shoe I bought on Australia and
• 57:17
  they're coming to the end of their lifetime.
• 57:19
  So I had 4 by 5 minutes of two-minute jog and I made the
• 57:25
  rookie mistake. So it was all well and good.
• 57:28
  I just pressed quick start on the treadmill and it was grand.
• 57:32
  I was hitting the five minute wraps in around 3 minute per
• 57:35
  kilometer pace and then for the two-minute floats I was around 4
• 57:39
  minute kilometer pace so felt good.
• 57:43
  And we just go on a heart rate to try and K off what that would
• 57:46
  be right for the treaty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:49
  So yeah, it's totally by heart rate.
• 57:52
  I'm just trying to get up to a certain, a certain level.
• 57:57
  But like the first four reps were grand but sure is in quick
• 58:03
  start. There's only a 30 minute period.
• 58:06
  So on my last Rep at 25 minutes didn't start to freaking cool
• 58:11
  down so it just started dropping the pace so I had to hold.
• 58:16
  I just basically ruined my last Rep I'd be going through a
• 58:19
  minute then it starts slowing down, so I'd have to hold on the
• 58:22
  increased pace button, but then it would go like more than 20
• 58:26
  kilometers an hour ago up to 21 and have to try and pull it back
• 58:30
  and it was just and every minute then it would try and like slow
• 58:32
  down the speed even more. It was an absolute disaster, but
• 58:36
  umm, I got it look, I got it done last year wasn't ideal, but
• 58:40
  it was still like 8 1/2 K at like 332 average.
• 58:44
  So, umm, and the, I felt like the three minutes, it felt good,
• 58:47
  like breathing wise, it's just, I don't know, I felt like you're
• 58:50
  on a treadmill. You sort of have to get used to
• 58:51
  running on a treadmill. I felt like I was trying to keep
• 58:53
  up with it, but it felt, it did feel pretty good.
• 58:57
  So it was probably the first time I felt good post race.
• 59:01
  Feel like because you're just the treadmills moving underneath
• 59:04
  you, you're just trying to maintain contact off of it.
• 59:07
  Back it's a bit, it's a bit different to running outside but
• 59:10
  but a bit easier on the legs I find, so probably a good thing
• 59:13
  to do after a race. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:16
  And I feel like it's harder to get the high rate up.
• 59:18
  Yeah. So yeah, definitely.
• 59:20
  Like in theory like 3 minutes I didn't probably hit the heart
• 59:23
  rate I needed to hit but I feel like if I'm going any faster.
• 59:27
  Mechanically. Yeah, it just throws me off.
• 59:29
  So yeah, I'll look, I'll get there.
• 59:31
  It was my first treadmill session in a while.
• 59:34
  And people often say about putting like the incline on no
• 59:38
  .5 to compensate for the road or whatever.
• 59:41
  What about the, the lack of like, even if there's zero wind
• 59:45
  outside, you still have the, the wind resistance that you're
• 59:48
  running into? Like you're creating a
• 59:50
  resistance based on that, aren't you?
• 59:52
  I mean, I've never thought of this before.
• 59:54
  She comes to me now. I wonder like how you compensate
• 59:57
  for that. I don't it's hard though they
• 59:59
  then you don't get the cooling that the wind provides you as
• 1:00:02
  well. So I don't know if that plays a
• 1:00:04
  role. But yeah, we have a fan to try
• 1:00:07
  and call us down but. I don't know, I just find the
• 1:00:11
  treadmill really helpful if you're feeling a bit sore or if
• 1:00:14
  you just want to be very consistent because you can't
• 1:00:17
  outside. It's hard to be as consistent,
• 1:00:20
  but the downside is that you probably don't go as hard.
• 1:00:23
  But I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing for
• 1:00:26
  training. Especially when you're doing
• 1:00:28
  threshold based stuff like you're probably better just
• 1:00:30
  under the line rather than over the line.
• 1:00:35
  But that was Thursday. Then that evening I done, I sort
• 1:00:38
  of started a new phase of like strength.
• 1:00:40
  So I'm just starting to lift heavy again because I've
• 1:00:44
  tailored it off when I was building up to nationals.
• 1:00:47
  Can I ask what a couple of your lifts like?
• 1:00:49
  Go to lifts are that when you're trying to lift?
• 1:00:51
  Heavy. So I squat.
• 1:00:59
  I What weight was it? We've done this thing where it
• 1:01:02
  was. So you start off with three
• 1:01:04
  reps, 15 minute, 15 second break, 4 reps, 5 reps, 6 reps, 7
• 1:01:10
  reps, 8 reps, Not up to 9 reps So yeah, it was sort of like a
• 1:01:16
  different. We don't normally do that.
• 1:01:17
  Normally I just lift like heavy, but like like 3 reps.
• 1:01:21
  Let's say we do this like where you're on the box and you sort
• 1:01:25
  of step down and try and push up.
• 1:01:27
  I notice that's like a single leg exercise and I just noticed
• 1:01:30
  my left leg is so much more weaker than my right leg.
• 1:01:34
  My coach actually is. I do upper body as well so I do
• 1:01:39
  a bit of like benching and all. Just.
• 1:01:42
  Get them gains. Oh man like when I was playing
• 1:01:45
  Gaelic I could bench like I think like my best was like get
• 1:01:49
  98 KG for like 1 Rep and now I could do like 75 for one Max.
• 1:01:56
  I've totally umm, lost all strength in my upper body but
• 1:02:01
  like, you don't need it ready for running there.
• 1:02:04
  I remember when I was like AC in and trying to look a little bit
• 1:02:08
  different than a runner and like benching 2 plates was like a
• 1:02:12
  life goal scene. Like 100K boy squatting.
• 1:02:18
  What was I squatting there that night?
• 1:02:20
  I think it was 70 or 80. And so again, I could probably
• 1:02:24
  go heavier. It was just like reintroduce,
• 1:02:26
  like sort of a reintroduction of weight because I don't know,
• 1:02:29
  like overdue on the first one. And we do a lot of core as well
• 1:02:32
  in there. So umm, no, it's good.
• 1:02:34
  I do enjoy gym and it's especially good when like your
• 1:02:37
  coaches, they're like supervising it because he
• 1:02:39
  corrects form and all that sort of stuff.
• 1:02:40
  It just makes you more accountable.
• 1:02:43
  That's. 100K then. I'm doing like a deadlift but
• 1:02:49
  not so not any squats at the minute but doing a deadlift.
• 1:02:53
  But yeah, it's about 1.5 times body weight.
• 1:02:56
  Is that with the trap bar or like the Olympic bar?
• 1:03:00
  Yeah, with the trap bar, I find it a bit safer just with my
• 1:03:02
  back. But yeah, we sort of built up
• 1:03:05
  to, I think it's about 105 kilos and then three, three sets of
• 1:03:12
  five I think is where I'm at. But yeah, is that the one you
• 1:03:16
  like step into? I feel like that one wrecks and
• 1:03:19
  pulls the hands off me. Yeah, so that's where I'm at the
• 1:03:22
  moment. It's it's hard to keep holding
• 1:03:23
  it. But yeah, it's more of a
• 1:03:25
  reflection of my lack of upper body.
• 1:03:29
  And then yeah, like calf work as well, like isometric stuff with
• 1:03:33
  my calves, which it's funny, they're quite, you'd think
• 1:03:37
  they're stronger than what you would think they'd be stronger
• 1:03:39
  than what they are based on the amount of running we do.
• 1:03:41
  But yeah, a lot of single legged calf stuff.
• 1:03:45
  They get found out pretty quick, but good to do.
• 1:03:48
  So have you been doing like the Smith machine, like isometric
• 1:03:53
  holds on your calf? What sort of weight have you got
• 1:03:56
  on there, Bent? Leg straight leg Oh, I'm not not
• 1:04:00
  a lot, not a lot of weight, but I can't remember off the top of
• 1:04:05
  my head. But it's not, it's not heavy
• 1:04:06
  weights, but just I feel like my calves fatigued pretty quickly.
• 1:04:10
  So it's been good to good to do. I remember Steve gave me it
• 1:04:15
  first, like 4 by 4 by 4, so 4 sets of four reps of four second
• 1:04:23
  holds on each calf so that you would go up on 2 calves, lift
• 1:04:27
  one off. So you just got one leg hold for
• 1:04:30
  four second swap and do that four times and yeah, it's enough
• 1:04:34
  to blow your calves up. Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  So I've done like some of that and then like bent legged to I
• 1:04:40
  think that targets here is it. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:48
  And then yeah, hyper core stuff because I'm pretty deficient
• 1:04:50
  there, which is I think was part of mine doing, which is why I
• 1:04:52
  got injured. But yeah, good stuff anyway.
• 1:04:57
  Angles. Sorry to disturb you from your
• 1:05:00
  wake. Up yeah all right so Saturday
• 1:05:01
  morning was like my first like track session back so I'm
• 1:05:04
  actually had a had a crew for the first time since probably
• 1:05:10
  since since Australia. So it was nice.
• 1:05:12
  So I run with my brother tags along a girl called Sarah and
• 1:05:18
  another lad called TP. So yeah, the coach sort of
• 1:05:21
  coaches three others, the two others 100% and then my brother
• 1:05:25
  just sometimes just getting fit for football.
• 1:05:28
  So the session was so 15 minute warm cool down and then it was 2
• 1:05:33
  sets of four by AK. So Sarah, she'd do like a 400
• 1:05:39
  meter Rep. My brother and the TP he, they
• 1:05:43
  do a 600 meter Rep and I do decay.
• 1:05:45
  So sort of had someone. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  So he literally only had to run like 400 meters by myself.
• 1:05:49
  That's what I was thinking about it.
• 1:05:51
  So I the first set was in around 70 seconds per lap, felt cool
• 1:06:00
  and like the recovery was 200 jog.
• 1:06:02
  So I literally jog to the start again and go so.
• 1:06:08
  What's that about it? Maybe a minute or how slow your
• 1:06:11
  job. In a minute, a minute, yeah, so
• 1:06:15
  first was in 72nd wraps and then the second set was in 68, so
• 1:06:21
  6860 nines. But yeah, feel it felt good.
• 1:06:26
  It was nice to get moving for that session.
• 1:06:28
  I wore I'll just a beat up pair of old super shoes I have, so I
• 1:06:34
  had the benefit of that. But yeah, like it was like 9.4 K
• 1:06:37
  at like 317 pace. 30 minutes would work.
• 1:06:40
  That's very that's good going like 8 by K with those 200 meter
• 1:06:44
  jogs like in like 72nd laps like because that's a bit of a you
• 1:06:50
  know, like MTC. I remember joining like Ramsden,
• 1:06:55
  a few of those guys doing that sort of 70 seconds and you jog
• 1:06:57
  the 200 works out to be about a minute on your watch.
• 1:07:00
  Go again. Yeah, that's.
• 1:07:02
  It's not a lot. Recovering.
• 1:07:04
  No, not at all. Because you're still sort of
• 1:07:06
  moving to get around to the start line.
• 1:07:09
  Yeah, yeah, it's about 5-5 minute K pace.
• 1:07:11
  K Pace yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  And but it was just nice to have the guys there because I could
• 1:07:16
  literally just sit in for the 1st and for the 1st 600 meters,
• 1:07:21
  and then it's just a kick sort of the last lap just to keep it
• 1:07:24
  going. So umm yeah, I was happy with
• 1:07:26
  how it went. Felt good.
• 1:07:27
  And did you get quicker on the second set, Did you get quicker
• 1:07:30
  than the 70s on the? Second set was in 6860 nines.
• 1:07:34
  That's very good. So you'd have to be in the best
• 1:07:36
  shape you've been in, right? Yeah.
• 1:07:41
  Yeah, I am. Well, I probably am, yeah.
• 1:07:43
  It's yeah. It's exciting.
• 1:07:45
  I just, yeah. I'd love to have like a 5K race
• 1:07:48
  like tomorrow and just see what I'd get, but that will have to
• 1:07:50
  wait till Valencia early John. It's not far, not far away.
• 1:07:54
  What was the Why aren't you saying there's something on like
• 1:07:56
  the 27th of December something? Oh, yeah, that's like a little
• 1:08:00
  Rd. 5K, but I'm not sure how deep deep that will be that I
• 1:08:02
  think that might be like a like a sort of a time trial sort of
• 1:08:06
  thing. I'm not really sure what level.
• 1:08:09
  Yeah. So I'm, oh, I actually got my my
• 1:08:13
  sort of Christmas present came at the new the new Puma.
• 1:08:19
  She was the was at the fast bar. Yeah, they came and I just tried
• 1:08:26
  them on to see if I fit in case I had to send them back.
• 1:08:28
  But guys, they how they felt so good, just like walking around
• 1:08:32
  the kitchen in them. You put like 10 KS into them
• 1:08:36
  walking around the house. And so yeah, they came.
• 1:08:40
  Had to get them from Puma, Germany.
• 1:08:43
  It was in the special like Acadine colorway because they're
• 1:08:47
  sold out. I couldn't get them anywhere.
• 1:08:48
  And like I'd loved, I wanted to give them a go.
• 1:08:51
  So yeah, I I'll be wearing them for for Valencia.
• 1:08:58
  Will you do workout or anything in them or maybe the 5K?
• 1:09:02
  I'll do the 5K in them. Yeah, that'll be their their
• 1:09:05
  debut. It is.
• 1:09:06
  You've taken so well to those Mad Max ones, you'd like to
• 1:09:09
  think these will be good for you as well.
• 1:09:11
  And I love the Velocities as well, the Puma Velocity V4, like
• 1:09:15
  I feel like I get on with the shoes.
• 1:09:16
  So hopefully a lot of people seem to go on well with them, so
• 1:09:20
  fingers crossed. So you're more excited than like
• 1:09:23
  a actual little kid for Christmas?
• 1:09:26
  No, I'll be running around the house.
• 1:09:32
  And then, and so yeah, that was my Saturday, oh, Saturday
• 1:09:36
  evening then I just got out for a 45 minute jog for just 11K4-O
• 1:09:43
  sevens in the Puma Mag Max again.
• 1:09:45
  And, and then that evening we actually, so when we were in
• 1:09:49
  Australia, we had to do regional work in, we done it in a place
• 1:09:52
  called stall outside Melbourne. And we worked with this
• 1:09:55
  Brazilian couple and they were, then they moved to Sydney and we
• 1:10:01
  literally only worked with them for like 3 to 4 weeks.
• 1:10:03
  But we gone really, really well with them.
• 1:10:05
  So we're meant to meet up with them when we were in Australia,
• 1:10:08
  but just never worked out. And we sort of sold them the
• 1:10:12
  Dream on Ireland. So they actually moved to
• 1:10:14
  Ireland. And so so now last night there's
• 1:10:19
  this thing on in Dublin Zoo, it's called like the wild
• 1:10:21
  lights. And basically you walk around
• 1:10:23
  Dublin Zoo and there's like these like colorful lights and
• 1:10:25
  all that sort of stuff. So we actually, we brought them
• 1:10:28
  to see that. So it's the first time seeing
• 1:10:30
  them in like 2 years. It was it was so nice to catch
• 1:10:32
  over them and. Yeah, This is why.
• 1:10:36
  This is why the early morning record was.
• 1:10:39
  Yes, went out the window. Because because I'm like far as
• 1:10:43
  you're normally in bed at this time when you when you message.
• 1:10:47
  Yeah, so, and then we went back to their place and umm, ah, so
• 1:10:52
  I, you know what I always say, and I'm really good at pool.
• 1:10:55
  Yeah. So there was a pool table in
• 1:10:57
  there like apartment complex. And then his name is G And I was
• 1:11:02
  like, oh, Gee, do you want to give a pool?
• 1:11:04
  And he was like, oh, well, first of all, he's, he sounded
• 1:11:07
  surprised. He didn't know there was a pool
• 1:11:08
  table there in the complex. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'll
• 1:11:11
  give you a game. And I broke and I'll.
• 1:11:14
  And then I was looking at the way he was holding the pool
• 1:11:16
  queue and he, he looked like he knew what he was doing.
• 1:11:21
  Basically, I was going to wipe the floor at him.
• 1:11:23
  And he ended up beating me. I looked like a fucking idiot.
• 1:11:29
  Good. Yeah, but I didn't go home to
• 1:11:31
  like half 11. And then I was like, I'm going
• 1:11:34
  to have to get up at 5:00 AM here to freaking do the record.
• 1:11:38
  I was like, and then I planned to meet a guy this morning for a
• 1:11:42
  long run as well. And so yeah, I was like, oh, is
• 1:11:46
  there any chance we could delay? Which I am very happy about.
• 1:11:50
  Thank you very much guys. How are they found in Ireland?
• 1:11:54
  Cold it's. A big shock to go from like
• 1:11:59
  Brazil to Australia to Ireland and they didn't get the nice
• 1:12:03
  heat wave at the start. They are like straight into like
• 1:12:06
  really dark, gloomy Ireland. So yeah, for some, no, no, it's
• 1:12:13
  nice. And then this morning I got out
• 1:12:18
  for a 90 minutes where one of the lads, Phillip, he's the 357
• 1:12:23
  Miller, he bat me in cross country by a place there the
• 1:12:26
  other day. So yeah, I got out for 90
• 1:12:28
  minutes with him and the last 15 had a little pick up.
• 1:12:31
  So there this morning it was 23 kilometers at 4 minute pace and
• 1:12:38
  yeah, total for the week was 106 kilometers.
• 1:12:43
  So strained together. Another few weeks it is, and
• 1:12:46
  yeah, hopefully I'll be ready to go for Spain.
• 1:12:48
  Where's that Philip live relative?
• 1:12:50
  See you. So he he, he's originally from a
• 1:12:54
  place called Retort that is like, I'm going to say 1015
• 1:12:58
  minutes, 10 minutes away from me.
• 1:13:00
  But he lives up in Dublin now. So he's right beside the Phoenix
• 1:13:03
  Park. So he was just, it worked out.
• 1:13:05
  Well, he was just up for the weekend.
• 1:13:07
  He was in retail. So yeah, we linked up for a run.
• 1:13:10
  Did you drop him or just say together?
• 1:13:13
  He dropped. He has the ability to drop me.
• 1:13:17
  I know I'm not dropping him anytime soon, but yeah, that was
• 1:13:22
  good. Nice work.
• 1:13:25
  Well, I think now we have the Valencia Marathon preview.
• 1:13:29
  So I was looking for the elite fields earlier.
• 1:13:32
  So I think it happens next Sunday the race, which will be
• 1:13:36
  Any idea what time it is locally?
• 1:13:38
  Let's find out. Really want to use find out.
• 1:13:41
  I'll read these fields out. So heading up the men's field is
• 1:13:46
  CC Lemma. He has a PB of two O 148 which
• 1:13:50
  is absolutely bang up there, so I'm sure Valencia will have
• 1:13:56
  signed him up with a view to chase the world world record
• 1:13:59
  pace. Then behind him there is a bit
• 1:14:02
  of a gap in terms of the next best.
• 1:14:05
  There's a Ethiopian guy called Key Ross 2O four and then
• 1:14:10
  there's a bunch of people in that two O 4 range including the
• 1:14:14
  German guy Petros who finished second and gave it away on the
• 1:14:19
  line. In the World Champs you've got a
• 1:14:22
  couple of Kenyans in the mix, Edward Chesarak PB of two O 5 in
• 1:14:28
  Chessy, Japanese guy with a 2O5. Also listed on the elite list,
• 1:14:35
  unfortunately, was Andy Buchanan and Clayton Young, who will be
• 1:14:39
  DNS's and then all the noticeable male names.
• 1:14:44
  I found out it starts at 8:15 AM Spanish time and it's streamed
• 1:14:51
  on their website. So if you look Valencia Marathon
• 1:14:54
  website, there's two streams, a Spanish stream and an English
• 1:14:57
  stream. So that is where you can get it.
• 1:15:00
  Perfect. There's Sunday evening sorted
• 1:15:03
  CFM from the other men. Somehow these guys aren't in the
• 1:15:07
  elite field, but guess just shows what the athletes Valencia
• 1:15:10
  are dealing with. You've got Brett Robinson have
• 1:15:12
  to drink sauce and Gregson and Tom Dicanto going over from an
• 1:15:18
  Australian point of view. You've got Phil Sussman, Alex
• 1:15:21
  Yee, Jack Rowe, Johnny Mellor, Ben Connor, Dewey Griffiths and
• 1:15:27
  Callum Hawkins going over from auk point of view.
• 1:15:31
  So for some, I mean the Australian guys somewhat speak
• 1:15:37
  for themselves, like Brett Robinson, former national record
• 1:15:40
  holder, have to has been quite openly vocal in saying he's
• 1:15:45
  going to have a shot at the national record, which is Andy
• 1:15:48
  Buchanan's for the time being. And Gregson has run 213.
• 1:15:54
  Maybe I think is Tom Dicanto is a little bit quicker to 12 or to
• 1:15:59
  11. To 11, yeah.
• 1:16:01
  And then there's British guys, I was looking at their like all
• 1:16:05
  time list placing. So like the national record is
• 1:16:09
  still MO Farah's two O 5, then Phil Sessman's run, two O 7
• 1:16:15
  ranked #5 all time. Alex Yee, the triathlete, he
• 1:16:19
  made his debut in London 211. So I'm sure he'll be looking to
• 1:16:23
  take a couple of minutes off that.
• 1:16:25
  Then Johnny Mellor is 11th all time with his 209 and Callum
• 1:16:31
  Hawkins coming making a big comeback.
• 1:16:34
  So he was, he would have been competing like properly.
• 1:16:38
  When how long ago? When did you invest some
• 1:16:43
  something into? So he was I think 2017, 1819, I
• 1:16:50
  think he was 4th at the World Champs in the UK, 2017, he was
• 1:16:54
  fourth again I think in Doha 2019 and then he was a shock DNF
• 1:17:00
  at the Com games in 2018. Yeah, OK, so and it looks like
• 1:17:04
  he's been doing some unbelievable training and he's
• 1:17:06
  got the 6th fastest ever 2/08/14 so plenty.
• 1:17:13
  To watch. I'm pretty sure he ran 60 flat
• 1:17:16
  in that marathon, half marathon we did Marigami, I think he
• 1:17:19
  might have won that or was involved in a Sprint finish
• 1:17:22
  there one year. They ran a lot 60.
• 1:17:25
  I nearly put, I don't know, like he'll easily get I think under
• 1:17:28
  two 10100% if 208 maybe. So yeah, it's so exciting.
• 1:17:36
  I wish you could they had like drones over people so you could
• 1:17:40
  like pay money to you can pay money to like follow certain
• 1:17:44
  people because we won't see any of these guys.
• 1:17:46
  Like you'll just be following these stupid canyons that are
• 1:17:49
  really good at running. The app, yeah, exactly.
• 1:17:53
  The app, though, is good for, I'm pretty sure it's one of
• 1:17:56
  those, you know, where you can actually see where they are on
• 1:17:59
  the road. Yeah.
• 1:18:01
  All you see is they're freaking initials.
• 1:18:03
  I want to see these guys actually running.
• 1:18:04
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know anything.
• 1:18:07
  You know, like in the F1 you can take the drive of you, like you
• 1:18:11
  can choose any driver and be in their helmet almost like you.
• 1:18:15
  It'd be sick to do that, wouldn't it?
• 1:18:17
  Just a little drone hovering over them or to decide like I
• 1:18:20
  think it's a. You know, with these meta
• 1:18:24
  glasses now, Yeah, imagine the athlete wore them and like live
• 1:18:28
  stream the race. That would be sick.
• 1:18:30
  That would be so cool. Yeah, that's something Clayton
• 1:18:33
  Young would do. So of Oh yeah, he's been wearing
• 1:18:37
  them before. Think when what was the last
• 1:18:39
  marathon where he's like, he wasn't competing but he was
• 1:18:41
  involved in like the live stream and stuff.
• 1:18:44
  He had them on that weekend and was posting some things.
• 1:18:47
  But from all of those, say the Australians and the Brits, who
• 1:18:54
  do we potentially expect to run the quickest?
• 1:18:58
  Because like Sussman has been targeting this massively.
• 1:19:01
  And then I think use were chatting about a video that he
• 1:19:04
  put up with his training partners, Alex Yi and Emil
• 1:19:08
  Kress, who's actually run faster than all of them.
• 1:19:10
  I think he's pacing to be fair. Yeah, that YouTube video was
• 1:19:14
  super like, strange. Like, it was so public, but Emil
• 1:19:18
  Kress, I didn't know an Adidas satellite was wearing, like,
• 1:19:22
  Nike super shoes. So it makes you wonder, like,
• 1:19:26
  has he jumped ship to go to Nike or is he?
• 1:19:29
  Yeah, I don't know how that even works.
• 1:19:31
  Like, like, is his contract up without a gas or.
• 1:19:35
  Like, I hate the way this isn't public information.
• 1:19:38
  We need to know. Because he's coached by Canover
• 1:19:42
  isn't he? And does a shit load of his
• 1:19:44
  stuff out in Kenya. I remember hearing Sessman on
• 1:19:47
  maybe it was podcasts a couple of years ago and he was talking
• 1:19:51
  about like a male as a training partner and stuff.
• 1:19:53
  And he was basically saying just how like dialed in he is with
• 1:19:57
  everything. So Phil might be conscious that
• 1:20:01
  he can use running to like supplement his income and stuff
• 1:20:05
  and say yes to some of these like media sponsorship
• 1:20:07
  opportunities. He was like a male's just like,
• 1:20:10
  Nah, if that's taken up half an hour of my day, then the
• 1:20:13
  answer's no. I'm recovering and.
• 1:20:16
  The fact that he does so much was training out in Kenya kind
• 1:20:19
  of like adds weight to that, doesn't it?
• 1:20:21
  Like just completely switch off from everything out there.
• 1:20:24
  Sacrifice, life, relationships, social things.
• 1:20:29
  And the two boys, Ben Connor and Callum Hawkins, you know, I'm on
• 1:20:33
  this run, so it's clearly just to them.
• 1:20:36
  They've done 35K at three O 8 pace and starting off at like
• 1:20:41
  315 and getting down to like 3 minute flat.
• 1:20:46
  But Ben, your man Callum Hawkins, his like Strava profile
• 1:20:51
  is like Rex Banner and it's a picture of like a Simpson
• 1:20:56
  character. But like, you can't.
• 1:20:58
  Oh, there we go. Get into it.
• 1:21:00
  Like they're hitting like 200 K weeks.
• 1:21:03
  So yeah, it'd be really interesting to see how how them
• 1:21:07
  boys go. But yeah, like you can't really.
• 1:21:10
  I can't actually have to. I think he's the one that he
• 1:21:14
  could go so, so, so well, or it could be a recipe for disaster
• 1:21:19
  if he goes out with all the fast guys because I think Valencia's
• 1:21:23
  down hurt start or something. You can really, really mess
• 1:21:25
  yourself up. And especially when you're in a
• 1:21:26
  group with such fast people like Tom Dicano running cross country
• 1:21:30
  two weeks before. I think he likes, like, training
• 1:21:33
  pretty hard the whole way up and then like just Sesame and yeah,
• 1:21:38
  yeah, it's going to be so good. It's exciting that half 2 is
• 1:21:42
  like actually gone out there and said his training is gone like
• 1:21:45
  immaculately and he is going to be going after the record
• 1:21:49
  because yeah, I would, I'd fucking love to see him do it.
• 1:21:54
  And then Brett's going to be probably if Half 2 is going off
• 1:21:57
  at Aussie record pace and seemingly Brett's training has
• 1:22:01
  gone very well and he looks to be in good shape as well.
• 1:22:04
  He obviously had had the Sydney run which was a bad run, but I
• 1:22:08
  think his build when pretty well into that and he's obviously
• 1:22:11
  just compounded on the back of it so he's not going to watch
• 1:22:15
  have to go off at Aussie record pace and just sit in the group
• 1:22:18
  behind them. I imagine it'll be going with
• 1:22:21
  him, so that's going to be class.
• 1:22:23
  You surely you just took him behind them.
• 1:22:27
  Just watch. How do you so who would you say
• 1:22:30
  is the top British? Who finishes top Britain, who
• 1:22:35
  finishes top Aussie, and then who wins out of those two?
• 1:22:38
  On paper, to me it seems like Sussman's the the top Brett, but
• 1:22:42
  I think Jack Rowe might be making his debut there and he
• 1:22:45
  has a ridiculously quick half PB.
• 1:22:49
  I think I'll just try and pull it up now, but I'm going to say
• 1:22:53
  that have two finishes ahead of all of them, then Sussman and
• 1:23:01
  then Brett. What?
• 1:23:03
  What's the are we going to overall under for the Aussie
• 1:23:06
  record, do you think? I'd like to see him do it.
• 1:23:11
  So I'll just say, yeah, I mean, chance, probability says no, but
• 1:23:16
  let's be optimistic over under what Aussie record?
• 1:23:19
  I have to but then. What do you think?
• 1:23:23
  Imagine Brett reclaimed it I. Don't.
• 1:23:25
  That would be good. Yeah, go for it.
• 1:23:29
  What do you think? Sessman runs so looks like he's
• 1:23:35
  reckons he's recovered from the 207 he ran in was at Amsterdam.
• 1:23:41
  He only needs to, you know, presumably there'll be a group
• 1:23:46
  that goes at that three minute K pace, right, which is 20 so
• 1:23:51
  that's 20630 odd. So they'll be targeting that I
• 1:23:59
  assume So, yeah, which is right on Australian record pace.
• 1:24:05
  So I think they're probably are all together is what I expect.
• 1:24:10
  And then it's whoever fin finishes the strongest.
• 1:24:13
  And I thought maybe when Andy Buchanan ran that time he did,
• 1:24:16
  was Ed Cheserick in that group and then just managed to run off
• 1:24:20
  and ran and closed really hard. That's where he ran his PBA as
• 1:24:22
  well. Say it could be an F.
• 1:24:26
  Who's Andy Buchanan's coach or is he self coached All toys
• 1:24:32
  Davis. Coach.
• 1:24:34
  Yep. Or in New South.
• 1:24:37
  He's a good runner. Welshman, yeah.
• 1:24:39
  He represented Australia in the 2016 Olympics in the marathon.
• 1:24:45
  Surely Andy Buchanan was never going to be ready for this if he
• 1:24:49
  had a stressy like, and then to jump straight back into high
• 1:24:52
  mileage, like that's just a recipe for a disaster.
• 1:24:55
  Like Shirley, like he's more attuned to like his body and
• 1:24:59
  like what he was trying to do that like it just was never
• 1:25:02
  going to work. I reckon it was on the back of
• 1:25:06
  because he missed Tokyo, didn't he?
• 1:25:08
  So then he would have put like all his eggs into like, OK, I'm
• 1:25:13
  going to be at Valencia and I'm going to have a good one at
• 1:25:15
  Valencia. And then almost like tunnel
• 1:25:17
  vision, like now I'm doing it. I'm doing it.
• 1:25:20
  The injury comes up. You're like now like I'll take a
• 1:25:22
  week off, but then I'm back. And then it's not until you
• 1:25:25
  like, finally come out of that bubble.
• 1:25:27
  And he's, you could probably ask him now and he'd be like, yeah,
• 1:25:30
  I would have been 1,000,000 miles off.
• 1:25:32
  Like it's a good job. I wasn't there and stuff, but
• 1:25:35
  you know how it is. Yeah, it's just, yeah.
• 1:25:39
  Disappointing. And Tom Dicano, does he break
• 1:25:42
  his personal vest? Yeah, surely.
• 1:25:44
  Have to be a chance after he after we ran on the weekend.
• 1:25:48
  He's flying so I'll say yes. You wonder if he goes for sub
• 1:25:52
  210. Yeah, I was going to say,
• 1:25:54
  imagine he's sat here next week as a two or nine guy.
• 1:25:57
  Surely I I think Philip Sussman does finish best of the UK and
• 1:26:04
  have to just beat all of the Commonwealth people like
• 1:26:09
  Australians, he's like the first home and he oh does he get an
• 1:26:16
  Aussie record. What is it?
• 1:26:18
  06 high or 206 low? 20 Something say see something
• 1:26:23
  is it? 22 like because he got Sydney
• 1:26:27
  under his belt, he actually has a good marathon and I yeah, I'm
• 1:26:32
  going to actually back after he gets does your record Congress.
• 1:26:35
  Assessment. I'll go to be different.
• 1:26:39
  I say he beats everyone. To be fair, Sessman has been
• 1:26:42
  recently talking about shifting his goal posts from 2O six to
• 1:26:47
  two O 5 something so and he seems that data-driven that he
• 1:26:51
  knows kind of like what shape he's in and what he's capable
• 1:26:54
  of. It's all about whether he's ran
• 1:26:56
  his race in Amsterdam or not. You know, they're all going to
• 1:26:59
  be there together for a chunk of it.
• 1:27:00
  You know, like it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be good,
• 1:27:04
  Good race to follow. Why Jimmy Wheeler not run the
• 1:27:08
  Aussie cross country trials actually?
• 1:27:10
  He was on the He's on the start list.
• 1:27:12
  Yeah, but watch his YouTube. And did you did you listen to
• 1:27:16
  Freddy? Kudos.
• 1:27:17
  Apparently he's signed with someone.
• 1:27:19
  Oh, no, I didn't hear that. Yeah, apparently I did say yes
• 1:27:23
  on YouTube. I did say, Speaking of powers of
• 1:27:26
  YouTube, did you see Jack's latest video about the injury
• 1:27:29
  scare? But then you can jump onto his
• 1:27:31
  Strava to check to make sure he's still trying to.
• 1:27:35
  Or how does he? What is he not here?
• 1:27:38
  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:27:41
  That's a good share. What?
• 1:27:43
  What? What are we?
• 1:27:45
  Yeah. What's our prediction?
• 1:27:46
  I think he does get a PB but I I love him but I don't think he's
• 1:27:51
  running sub two time and from 2:14 high to 210 is a crazy
• 1:27:56
  jump. And yeah, I genuinely wouldn't
• 1:28:00
  put a pass on, but I think he does get a PB, but I think it's
• 1:28:03
  like 213 or something like that. Hopefully he doesn't go after
• 1:28:07
  the 210 because if he does he might not end up with his PB.
• 1:28:11
  He's becoming more and more Japanese by the day, though, So
• 1:28:14
  I think did you watch Speaking of his side side quest, but did
• 1:28:21
  you watch his video with the like I do, I find his content.
• 1:28:25
  So like he's always so chipper He and like a bit self
• 1:28:28
  deprecating, but like his his streak of not being able to win
• 1:28:32
  one of these races in Japan. Yeah.
• 1:28:34
  Did you say the race where he did a fart leg session and like
• 1:28:37
  he's like he's like ahead of the group, like getting dropped by
• 1:28:42
  the group ahead of the group like he's just he's just golden.
• 1:28:46
  And then sure enough, some bloke runs really fast and scalps him
• 1:28:49
  again. He's like fuck, another second,
• 1:28:51
  but I don't know, he's in shape. He's in very good shape.
• 1:28:55
  So I think yeah, definitely a PB because Tokyo when he ran 2/14,
• 1:28:59
  remember it was pretty warm. He ended up in the medical tent,
• 1:29:03
  but again, going pretty hard. So I think PB but yeah, maybe
• 1:29:07
  not quite two 10210 yeah, ambitious, but you never know.
• 1:29:13
  His his training is phenomenal. 280K weeks, 40 KSA day.
• 1:29:18
  It's very impressive. So in amongst all that lot, then
• 1:29:21
  he could pretend could potentially be running with and
• 1:29:26
  or end up beating like Frank Gregson based on like his
• 1:29:30
  aspirations. And I'm sure Gregor wants to run
• 1:29:33
  to 11 like 212 probably at West. I'd say might feel like his PB
• 1:29:40
  is a little soft for what it is now and he feels like he he's
• 1:29:43
  due putting a good one on the board.
• 1:29:45
  So maybe even he'd be looking at 2:10.
• 1:29:48
  I have no idea. But when you're looking at these
• 1:29:51
  lines, like all these boys have run like 6060 odd 61 for the
• 1:29:55
  half, it's like Jake's a 63 video.
• 1:30:00
  It's a massive jump if he does and it's a massive gamble to go
• 1:30:04
  out with them. His ability to convert though
• 1:30:07
  with the mileage would be better than all of them I would think.
• 1:30:11
  But any ceilings getting better? Like you can see him getting
• 1:30:16
  quicker, but yeah, this is how much quicker.
• 1:30:18
  Yeah. Hopefully, yeah, hopefully takes
• 1:30:22
  the chunk out of his paper. Actually, I've changed my mind.
• 1:30:25
  I think he's getting under. I think he's going to get under
• 1:30:27
  210. I faith he's just a freak.
• 1:30:30
  His machine, he's going to talk. He's not going to be just like
• 1:30:34
  leading some trainer Japanese guys.
• 1:30:36
  He's going to be tucked into the back of the pack, just shutting
• 1:30:39
  off. Did you say, did you say his
• 1:30:42
  comments as well? This Bryce was getting strained
• 1:30:46
  and the rented Japan army were blowing up in the YouTube
• 1:30:49
  section. He actually hit 100K
• 1:30:52
  subscribers. Yeah.
• 1:30:53
  That's all that, yeah. On a date or something, wasn't
• 1:30:56
  it? Or was he there's?
• 1:30:58
  No, there's a YouTube documentary or a big documentary
• 1:31:01
  coming out about it apparently, or something like that.
• 1:31:05
  Yeah, he said it on the video on the YouTube.
• 1:31:07
  So I'm. Oh, that's.
• 1:31:08
  Right, Yes, some like Netflix production like Ask Type, so
• 1:31:12
  it'll be good. Chris actually messaged me
• 1:31:15
  saying that, like, did you see Jake's live stream the other
• 1:31:18
  week? Because I think it when you're
• 1:31:20
  in live stream, you can like tip or donate or whatever to the
• 1:31:23
  channel, can't you? And he said he was having to ask
• 1:31:26
  people to stop donating because the donations are going crazy.
• 1:31:33
  The Army, just like, yeah, he's got a, he's got like some loyal
• 1:31:38
  followers, very loyal followers. I hate to take the credit, but
• 1:31:41
  we sort of like found it joking. But the ironic thing is,
• 1:31:48
  remember, like at the very start of his journey, he said, I'm
• 1:31:52
  sure on one of his videos that like, he studied so much about
• 1:31:55
  like marketing and social media and all this.
• 1:31:58
  So he's, he's literally not winging it either.
• 1:32:01
  As much as he doesn't, like, reveal any of this, he's
• 1:32:04
  probably very deliberate in what he's doing and how he's done it
• 1:32:07
  so far, which is even more impressive.
• 1:32:09
  Yeah. He's done it very well.
• 1:32:12
  And the women's field then at Valencia is headed by a main
• 1:32:16
  neighbouriso from Ethiopia with the two 1458 and Perez, Jeff
• 1:32:21
  Chichier. She's I guess the major name.
• 1:32:24
  216-1616 Jocelyn Jeff Cosguy 2/16/24 You've then got Kira
• 1:32:29
  d'amato of the USA, Charlotte Purdue from Great Britain, Jess
• 1:32:34
  Stenson, Izzy Bath Doyle and Jen Gregson from Australia, Emma
• 1:32:38
  Bates from the US, Rose Harvey from GB and Lindsay Flanagan
• 1:32:42
  from the US so lots of notable names in amongst there too.
• 1:32:48
  I guess the main thing that stands out is probably the three
• 1:32:51
  Australian women, well particularly Izzy and Jess.
• 1:32:56
  I'm sure we'll be having a little look at that Aussie
• 1:32:59
  record, whether or not it's a go out with a view to setting it
• 1:33:06
  all on a good day or like going hard and like throwing every
• 1:33:11
  everything at it and what do we think?
• 1:33:14
  I have never heard of that barista one ever.
• 1:33:19
  Yeah. Yeah, trying to see when she ran
• 1:33:24
  it. Straight on to it validate.
• 1:33:30
  Who's her agent? It's been a short minute since
• 1:33:38
  any of that chat, to be honest. Wherever.
• 1:33:40
  She ran in 20/22, she ran that 214 in Valencia and her most
• 1:33:45
  recent one is Boston. This year she ran 221 which I
• 1:33:52
  wonder where that got her. It's cool to see Charlotte
• 1:33:55
  Perdue back on her start line. So we've just gone into a World
• 1:33:58
  Athletics and she's in 2025. She's only ran one race which
• 1:34:02
  was 1/2 marathon in August, the Antrim one actually remember.
• 1:34:09
  So interesting to see what she's capable of because she has APB
• 1:34:12
  of 2/22/17 which would put her on a good day.
• 1:34:18
  Right in the pack with I guess Izzy and Jess if they were going
• 1:34:22
  towards Sinead's Aussie record of 221.
• 1:34:26
  What is it exactly for? Sure, she's part of MTC as well.
• 1:34:28
  Do you think anyone breaks Sinead's Australian record?
• 1:34:32
  I think Jess and Izzy both go for it and if I was to pick one,
• 1:34:36
  I'd pick Izzy for sure. So I think she's a definitely a
• 1:34:40
  shout. For two 2134 Aussie record
• 1:34:45
  Aussie slash Irish. Yeah, No, we don't.
• 1:34:47
  That's all right. Don't.
• 1:34:48
  You can have her. I think I yeah, I'll be
• 1:34:54
  optimistic. I hope it goes.
• 1:34:56
  But like, no, I hope she gets it.
• 1:34:57
  It's in, you know, runs well. Yeah, I think, I don't know
• 1:35:03
  about you guys, but definitely me.
• 1:35:05
  I've almost been deliberate and kind of like not speaking about
• 1:35:09
  Izzy and air training and like the hush pursues of the
• 1:35:13
  Australian record at Valencia this year.
• 1:35:15
  But obviously it's come to the point now where it's next
• 1:35:17
  weekend because I'm sure she wouldn't be afraid to admit that
• 1:35:23
  that might be a major goal going into it because she's perhaps
• 1:35:27
  had a couple of looks at it prior and obviously has fallen
• 1:35:29
  short so far so. Let's.
• 1:35:31
  Be real, this is the one. She's gone for it.
• 1:35:33
  Like the 100% she's gone for it. Why wouldn't she?
• 1:35:37
  If you're in the shape of your life and your PBS a minute shy
• 1:35:40
  of it, like, I mean, you're normally in the marathon, you're
• 1:35:44
  either trying to run the next minute or the next barrier.
• 1:35:48
  And this happens to be two things.
• 1:35:50
  So absolutely. To run to run it to 2130 is 321
• 1:35:56
  per kilometer, so. Yeah, three, 19220 pace, so 2
• 1:36:01
  seconds at 80 seconds, so yeah, 320 ones.
• 1:36:07
  She's got so much more wiggle room than Jess and even what
• 1:36:11
  Sinead had when she ran it as well based on their half PBS.
• 1:36:15
  Like her half PB smashes them all out the water.
• 1:36:19
  So she's she's given herself the opportunity through that.
• 1:36:23
  Yeah, it's hard sometimes with those half PBS because I reckon
• 1:36:27
  you're in such ripping shape when you put together a marathon
• 1:36:29
  block, you don't often then have the opportunity two weeks before
• 1:36:33
  or 4 weeks before to illustrate that full fitness.
• 1:36:36
  And even if you do, you're probably under heavy training
• 1:36:39
  fatigue. So never, unless you've really
• 1:36:41
  targeted 1/2 and got the full result from it, which is he has
• 1:36:46
  then you. You might not.
• 1:36:48
  You might be underselling yourself when you do the double
• 1:36:50
  +7 or whatever you you want to do, but.
• 1:36:54
  When you first broke 220 because you ran 2/19 at first and yeah,
• 1:36:58
  56 something just done it, Yeah. What was your half PB going into
• 1:37:03
  that? 6640 something maybe?
• 1:37:08
  Yeah, it seems to be for men that you need to like, have a
• 1:37:11
  bit more in the tank, doesn't it?
• 1:37:14
  Well, that works out to be so 6645.
• 1:37:19
  Let's say is 6 1/2 minutes. So that's pretty.
• 1:37:28
  That's not that's a pretty tight.
• 1:37:30
  Conversion. Where did you run that?
• 1:37:34
  Sunshine Coast? Yeah.
• 1:37:36
  Like this is Valent. Like this is literally made for
• 1:37:39
  PBS. Like it's pancake flat.
• 1:37:41
  So yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not a women's only
• 1:37:45
  field either. Is it that they'll be in massive
• 1:37:49
  packs with men? Which can work further and
• 1:37:52
  against them so. But I still think Izzy gets it.
• 1:37:55
  Yeah, I put money on. I bet she's a coffee and a cross
• 1:37:58
  on. Izzy gets the women's record.
• 1:38:01
  And then Rose, to be fair, Rose Harvey, a GB, she's got APB
• 1:38:04
  2/23/21 there, So she could be also in similar packs to them.
• 1:38:09
  I don't know what the next major step forward is from that, but
• 1:38:15
  I'm sure the these girls all probably know each other or are
• 1:38:18
  semi familiar with each other anyway, so they'll they'll be in
• 1:38:21
  conversations around that. Yeah, very exciting.
• 1:38:23
  It seems like it's been, well, literally all year in the
• 1:38:26
  making. Given it happens in December,
• 1:38:28
  but often you don't look towards a race until like a couple of
• 1:38:32
  weeks before it and it pops up like, oh shit, that's in a few
• 1:38:35
  weeks. Whereas Valencia, you just know
• 1:38:37
  like so many people are looking to do something ridiculous
• 1:38:40
  there. I'm sure last year they were
• 1:38:42
  like claiming X amount of national records have been run
• 1:38:46
  so keen to see how many fall again.
• 1:38:50
  Lastly of the serious content today.
• 1:38:52
  Oh you did see this because Owen sent it through do you?
• 1:38:57
  Do you want to cover it, Owen or?
• 1:39:00
  To be honest I just seen They want Us This is ground
• 1:39:02
  soundtrack. They want to try and just pay
• 1:39:05
  half of the money but World Athletics aren't letting them
• 1:39:08
  basically. Is it?
• 1:39:10
  In a nutshell, yeah. So when I looked into it a bit
• 1:39:14
  more, they've instructed a corporate restructuring company
• 1:39:17
  and insolvency law firm to start acting on their behalf, which
• 1:39:22
  doesn't read well in itself, but also makes you wonder, like, are
• 1:39:26
  they just trying to hide behind that and get a bit of an out
• 1:39:29
  from it? So they've sent letters to all
• 1:39:31
  the vendors asking them to accept a 50% payment and also
• 1:39:36
  making them aware that if they don't a Grand Slam risk going
• 1:39:40
  bust completely. So I mean kind of trying to
• 1:39:43
  guilt trip them into accepting it.
• 1:39:45
  And it also states that all of the vendors must accept the
• 1:39:49
  terms otherwise no one will get paid.
• 1:39:52
  So it's proper shit house behaviour.
• 1:39:55
  So we have they paid half of it. Now they're trying to agree a
• 1:40:00
  settlements that they only have to pay half.
• 1:40:02
  Nah fucked them. I'd say pay the full thing and
• 1:40:05
  just go away. Never appear like pay the people
• 1:40:07
  their money. So apparently they they still
• 1:40:11
  owe over $10 million. And this is it's also like it
• 1:40:16
  depends what way you look at it. But they've apparently told
• 1:40:19
  these vendors that they've got an outside party who's expressed
• 1:40:22
  interest in acquiring the league and looking at refinancing them
• 1:40:26
  and clear and all the debts. But I reckon they're just trying
• 1:40:30
  to bolster the vendors up to accept this, these 50% terms and
• 1:40:34
  make them think like they might get full settlements in the
• 1:40:38
  future and it's just never going to happen.
• 1:40:39
  And they just want the 50% settlement.
• 1:40:42
  And then apparently there's mixed responses like Summer will
• 1:40:45
  and say yes, some are looking to take them to court or there's
• 1:40:50
  obviously a not willing to say yes, which I think they should
• 1:40:54
  stand by that and say no. MJ once again doesn't look good.
• 1:41:00
  He needs to just get a life and paid.
• 1:41:02
  I was on pocket at this stage. He ruined his name.
• 1:41:06
  He actually ruined his name. Do you think he was dope?
• 1:41:14
  YouTube Diaries we're going to assign to the Valencia preview
• 1:41:18
  of Phil Sussman, Alexy and Amir Caress, because if you haven't
• 1:41:23
  seen it already, go and check that video out.
• 1:41:25
  The three of them are doing fizzy, bizarre things up and
• 1:41:29
  down that canal in Leeds where Phil beasts his two dogs, like,
• 1:41:36
  puts 100 miles into them each week.
• 1:41:39
  Have you seen? Apparently one of them can like,
• 1:41:41
  handle it better than the other? So like one of them goes on all
• 1:41:44
  those double S and stuff, whereas the other one like only
• 1:41:47
  gets to go out on a select few. Is that is pekili injured a bit
• 1:41:51
  and kick chug is pretty? And he sometimes puts up that,
• 1:41:57
  like he feeds them pies afterwards and some obviously
• 1:42:02
  sometimes only one of them gets a pie.
• 1:42:04
  And the other ones like sat there devastated because it
• 1:42:06
  didn't go on the run, so it doesn't get its pie.
• 1:42:09
  Poor dogs. But that I think they are either
• 1:42:15
  all of them are sponsored by chorus or chorus a sponsor in
• 1:42:18
  the series. So they pull all like the data
• 1:42:21
  behind the sessions as well, like all the heart rates, all
• 1:42:24
  the the paces. And Alex Yi has shared Chorus's
• 1:42:28
  predicted marathon time for him, which is pretty bold to do so
• 1:42:33
  ahead of the race considering I think it's said he'll run two O
• 1:42:36
  546. Two O 5 Who's this?
• 1:42:42
  Alex Yi. Wow, I don't believe any of that
• 1:42:45
  shit though. My watch says I'll run a 15
• 1:42:47
  minute 5 can. I'm pretty sure I can run a
• 1:42:48
  little bit faster. Yeah, I don't think they're the
• 1:42:51
  most accurate, are they? I mean, on YouTube Diaries,
• 1:42:54
  Alexei himself has his own channel as well and one of the
• 1:42:59
  videos I watched earlier on in the build, but he's still
• 1:43:02
  referenced in Valencia. But he was, he went dipped his
• 1:43:05
  toes back into the try scene and he was doing a few races there.
• 1:43:08
  I think it was like this super Sprint series or something.
• 1:43:12
  And it showed that he was getting beaten up by some of the
• 1:43:16
  triathletes who he would have previously wiped the floor with.
• 1:43:19
  And he's saying, like, I just this is hard, but I have to
• 1:43:22
  accept that I've made the choice basically to sacrifice some
• 1:43:27
  recycling and swimming to try and become a better runner.
• 1:43:31
  So some good insights there. And Kenji features throughout
• 1:43:36
  because he's at the the series. He wins it though, doesn't he?
• 1:43:40
  He might do in the end, but on the ones that he was documenting
• 1:43:44
  here, he wasn't. Because like a really short form
• 1:43:47
  1 and I think he ends up winning that one.
• 1:43:51
  But yeah, I'm not sure if we're on about the same video though.
• 1:43:56
  But he's a really good YouTube. Double trouble.
• 1:43:58
  Anyone got anything springing to mind?
• 1:44:01
  Yeah, Chorus. While we're on the topic, did
• 1:44:05
  you know they? Just completely bare and bred
• 1:44:07
  bridges with another brand here. Do you know Dave?
• 1:44:10
  And you watch out, appreciate the whole fucking world notice
• 1:44:16
  and you watch out everywhere you look on social media, you see
• 1:44:20
  some person or team or raving about this pace for I don't
• 1:44:28
  know, it's like fair play to them.
• 1:44:30
  Get the word out there, but it's a little bit much like I
• 1:44:33
  wouldn't mind the watch. It's probably very good watch,
• 1:44:36
  but I don't think it can store music or anything like that.
• 1:44:39
  But yeah, I don't know, I just, I'm getting a bit overwhelmed
• 1:44:43
  from chorus recently. I need to.
• 1:44:45
  Take a step back. You're.
• 1:44:48
  Big on the marketing. Your last rant about Saw
• 1:44:54
  products though seemed to hit home hit be well received by
• 1:44:59
  some viewers. We might have something in that
• 1:45:01
  space coming out as a rival to Saw products.
• 1:45:05
  So watch this space. Don't get me started on sore
• 1:45:11
  again. Yeah, my mom, actually, she went
• 1:45:13
  up to a running shop in Dublin and she's looking for, like,
• 1:45:17
  shorts for my brother. And she's like, oh, and what you
• 1:45:20
  think of these? I just sent you a picture of the
• 1:45:22
  sore ones. I was like, Mom, no, please
• 1:45:24
  don't. Yeah, she she, not she.
• 1:45:31
  Seen the price tag? No, she didn't see the price
• 1:45:34
  tag. You tell.
• 1:45:34
  I was like, mom, look at the price tag.
• 1:45:39
  They got put straight back. But I said a good quality, I
• 1:45:44
  mean. Just for some balance, I
• 1:45:46
  actually wear a chorus. Yeah, I know.
• 1:45:49
  We know it's just American. Yeah, they're, they're making
• 1:45:54
  is. Just that.
• 1:45:54
  Just. Like it man was it.
• 1:46:00
  Man was sweating bullets when he rode past yesterday.
• 1:46:06
  Do you not think it's everywhere though?
• 1:46:07
  The watch, like every single person is just pushing it and
• 1:46:12
  like, is it any better? I'd yeah, I don't want to get.
• 1:46:17
  Started. I mean, realistically if Chorus
• 1:46:20
  emailed us next week and said we want to pay you X amount of
• 1:46:23
  money to talk about this new watch on your podcast next week
• 1:46:28
  and I'm already wearing it. We're not really going to say no
• 1:46:31
  though, are we? But like they brought out this
• 1:46:35
  pace pro and the Pace 3 and they try and justify a price
• 1:46:40
  difference by like a brighter screen.
• 1:46:44
  Like the same. They literally have the same
• 1:46:46
  functionality, just one has a brighter screen.
• 1:46:50
  I do remember actually Jake doing a video on the brightness
• 1:46:54
  of their screens. Yeah, that's what they're
• 1:46:56
  selling point does. And this one, it's so light,
• 1:46:59
  like, like what difference is a couple of grams on your wrist
• 1:47:04
  going to make for when you're running a fucking race?
• 1:47:06
  And even them singlets are sore around with this jacket that's
• 1:47:09
  like such and such lie. I'm like, no, I want a jacket to
• 1:47:13
  actually stop the rain, like making me wet.
• 1:47:16
  Like I don't care about how light it is.
• 1:47:17
  I just want to actually. Work.
• 1:47:20
  I want my GPS to be unfriendly so I can crop it and get a
• 1:47:24
  faster payday. So.
• 1:47:29
  With the source stuff I'm too much of A minge bag to pay for
• 1:47:33
  that pay that much for running gear, but I would genuinely be
• 1:47:37
  intrigued to try it because it is supposed to be ridiculously
• 1:47:42
  good quality. Yeah, and I'd say it is.
• 1:47:45
  Been there. We've been there.
• 1:47:46
  It. Is but is enough quality to
• 1:47:48
  charge an extra £200? I doubt it.
• 1:47:51
  Like I know I felt like I now go to, I think the Catalan is in
• 1:47:55
  Australia. Is it?
• 1:47:58
  Well, a lot of the Catalan within the Catalan, there's like
• 1:48:00
  a brand called Kipron which is actually sponsoring runners now.
• 1:48:04
  But like their stuff is so cheap and like it's perfect.
• 1:48:08
  Like I've got a pair of their shorts.
• 1:48:09
  Like their shorts are like €20, which I don't know what is an
• 1:48:12
  Aussie dollar, maybe 36 odd Aussie dollar, which for a pair
• 1:48:16
  of running shorts is super, super cheap, but they're
• 1:48:17
  actually really good quality as well.
• 1:48:19
  Like, yeah, I don't know. They sponsor Jimmy Gracia them
• 1:48:24
  they pay him a shit ton. He'd go like for nice brand
• 1:48:27
  reached. That's one to me.
• 1:48:28
  I'd fucking jump at it as well, but he's definitely getting a
• 1:48:30
  fat bag. Are there any small startup
• 1:48:34
  Irish brands in the running space?
• 1:48:36
  No, not really. Not that I can think of off the
• 1:48:38
  top of my head. What was he sent the Steven
• 1:48:42
  Scullion 262 is it? Yeah, something like that.
• 1:48:47
  Right, gone. We're we're well done.
• 1:48:50
  Thanks very much guys. See you next week to debrief
• 1:48:53
  Valencia. See you.
• 1:48:54
  Good luck guys.