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UK Column News Podcast 26th August 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Monday, the twenty sixth of August twenty
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twenty four, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News.
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I'm your host, Mike Robinson joining me by video link.
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We have Alex Thompson who's in Slovakia today, and Ben
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Rubin in London. As usual, we're going to get kicked
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off with censorship and the arrest of Pavel Durov rested
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in France over the weekend. So let's have a look
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at the details of this, as I say, arrested on
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Saturday evening in La Burget Airport in Paris. Arrested on
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the basis of a French search warrant issued by the
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National Directorate of Judicial Police, placed on a federal warrant
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wanted list, and the warrant was issued because of his
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alleged failure to cooperate with the French authorities. This is
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all about censorship of the telegram platform for which he
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is to see finder. Of course, the accusations well terrorism,
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drug trafficking, complicity and criminal activities, fraud, money laundering, concealment
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of illegal activities, distribution of child sexual abuse. Content will
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focus on that one a little bit in the second,
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but the potential penalty for this is twenty years in prison,
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so this is a typical tweet, then going out. France
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is actually going to throw telegram finder Pavl Durov and
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jail for up to twenty years for refusing the sense
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of the truth. If this happened to Mark Zuckerberg in Russia,
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every Western government would be going crazy. The hypocrisy and
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double standards are standing well. If we just consider the
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hypocrisy and double standards on the allegations of distribution of
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child abuse material for a second, it is really off
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the charts. When we consider this headline from the New
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York Post, Bridgiet Macron says her head was in a
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mess when she did a future French president when he
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was fifteen, and she was If she had done this
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in the UK, if the pair of them had been
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living in the UK, she would have been literally considered
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a pedophile. But because the age of consent in France
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is fifteen, she is not, apparently, but certainly in the
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UK we have seen stories like this over the years
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of pe teacher Jill for having intense and passionate affair
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with female pupil sixteen, banned from teaching for life, so
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at sixteen, within the age of consent, but nonetheless, because
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she was a teacher, as Missus Macron was at the time,
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was considered that was considered to be an abuse of
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authority and therefore there were penalties for that, So we
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put that back on screen for a second. Others in
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fact ending up, although not in prison, ending up on
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the sex offenders register for having a sexual relationship with
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a seventeen year old and a former pupil didn't begin
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the relationship till after the pupil had left the school,
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but still because of the issue of abuse of already
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considered put on the sexual offenses register and so on.
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So the hypocrisy here is off the charts. But actually,
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thanks to Ben for this. He sent me the reminded
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me of this NSPCC report looking at child abuse images
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on the various platforms and calling on offcom to take
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action and the tech companies to take action. And in fact,
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Telegram isn't even listed on their list. So here's a
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look at the instances of child abuse images a day
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discovered ranked by the NSPCC. Snapchat out in the lead
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with forty four percent when they ran this study, Instagram
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coming second at twelve percent, Facebook, third at nine What's
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app fourth at five percent, and then kick I'm not
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aware of that one at five percent. Also TikTok sorry
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at four percent, Twitter and exit three percent, and YouTube
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at three percent. So they didn't even mention Telegram. So
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we're talking about hypocrisy. We need to be understand where
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the hypocrisy lies. And Alex, very very briefly, I mean,
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my view here is we are existing with a pedophilic leadership,
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and for them to use sexual imagery as children as
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an excuse for censorship is beyond hypocrisy.
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Speaker 2: Of course it is, Mike. And the longer we go on,
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the more we see examples of pedophilic leadership being caught
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out not just in politics, but in finance, increasingly in
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the security state areas as well. And we will go
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on to see some of the reaction to do it
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offic arrest soon where the latent hypocrisy becomes clearer because
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Telegrams leadership is singled out for allegedly benefiting from the
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child abuse here, where no mention is made of Instagram,
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YouTube or other of the regime compliance social media websites.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, so let's bring Molly Rose Foundation on screen, and
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they of course focusing me in the on suicide risks
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and suicide content on the various platforms, and they were
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doing an analysis of the Digital Services Acts Transparency database. Now,
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the Digital Services Act is one part of the EU's
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equivalent of the Online Safety Act. And what did they
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talk about, Well, they were talking about Instagram, Facebook, Facebook, TikTok, Pinterest,
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Snapchat and x And again no mention of Telegram in
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this report, So you know to what degree this Telegram
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feature in reality in terms of this type of content
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that is considered harmful. The difference between Telegram and these
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other platforms is a Telegram is used much more by Russia,
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it's used by Ukraine as well, but it's also used
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by activists around the Western world much more than these
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other platforms are, so that might be perhaps the main reason.
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But then there's this question of whether actually Telegram provides
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any serious barrier to the security services of various countries
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because is it really an encrypted messaging app, And of
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course it isn't. We've been making this point for quite
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a long time, but just to take a paragraph from
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this particular article, Telegram clearly fails to meet the stronger
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definition he was talking about the definition of encrypted applications.
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For a simple reason, it does not end to end
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encrypt conversations by default. If you want to use end
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to end encryption and Telegram, you must manually activate activate
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an optional end to end encryption feature called secret Chats
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for every single private conversation you want to have. The
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feature is explicitly not turned on for the vast majority
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of conversations, and it's only available for one to one
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conversations and never for group chats with more than two
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people in them. And this is a very important point
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because the focus of the Western governments recently has been
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on end to end encryptions encryption, but it's mainly the
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compliant channel of the compliant platforms that use and encryption
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or have the capability of using it by default. And
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then we have this statement just to mention the statement
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for Telegram Messenger themselves. They say Telegram abides by e laws,
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including the Digital Services Act, its moderation is within industry
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standards and is constantly improving. Telegram CEO Pavel Durov has
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nothing to hide and travels frequently in Europe. It's absurd
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to claim that a platform or its owner are responsible
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for abuses of that platform and so on. But in
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the meantime, then in the United States, because of course
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it's the situation is not really any better over there.
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They are in the process of increasing the pressure on
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people that they consider to be foreign actors or people
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that are acting on behalf of foreign powers, and people
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mainly that are acting on behalf as they see it,
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of Russia, China and Iran. So people like Scott Ritter
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and Dimitry signs are much more likely at least this
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is their view, to be on the receiving end of
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similar material or similar responses from the state. But just
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coming back to Dimitri for a second. This from Richard.
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If telegram could be banned because drug dealers used to
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exchange information, then mercedes should also be banned because they're
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used to transport drugs. Don't be fooled. Freedom of speech
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is at stake, and this is absolutely the case. And
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in my view, well, if we go back to nineteen
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thirty three and we look at the editor's law that
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Gebels brought in and the Nazi regime brought in, and
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the quote on this is from Goobles, I have the
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natural intention to be and remain the warm hearted protector
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of the German press. That was the quote from him
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at the time when they brought in the Editor's Law,
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which saw the absolute removal of any opposition media in
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Germany at the time. I'm just going to remind you
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of Matt Hancock from twenty nineteen. The care and Cross
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Review will explore whether intervention may be required to safeguard
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the future of our free and independent press. And I'm
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absolutely drawing a parallel between those two quotes. I think
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what we're saying here, Alex is the intervention that's required
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to save the so called free independent press, which is
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now completely in the pay of the British government. They
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are safeguarding the future of that by shutting down any
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dissident voice.
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Speaker 2: This is a well known technique, Mike, to qualify a
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previously unknown, previously well understood a term with a couple
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of adjectives. So there was no pretense made that the
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press was being safeguarded, but the free and independent press,
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and of course those adjectives are pre defined by the
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governing clique to mean quite the opposite, those that are
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controlled by the state and those that follow its line.
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I apologize and advance for the background noise today, I
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can't do anything about that, but you'll hear some clattering
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but yes from the Cancross Review onwards and go to
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our censored section on the front page of the website
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to find more. It was clear that the government and
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government money was leading the press, that that section of
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it that is controlled by the government and anything else
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could just sink.
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Speaker 1: Yes, so you go ahead with your segment on TV here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So before we get onto my slides here in
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the show notes, there will be a couple of pieces
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which I haven't put a slide together for, indicating that
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potentially the background to mister Durov's arrest was a hobnob
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with Vladimir Putin in Baku, Azerbaijan, at the tail end
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of a Central Asia tour of several former Soviet republics
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in which mister Durov, according to people who've tracked down
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open source leads, was accompanied by a twenty four year
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old Dubai based Slavic lady who specializes in cryptocurrency advice
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called Yulia Vavilova. So it looks like this may have
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been a honey trap. We just don't that's just the
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primer facia indication. It would not be the first time
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that people in the social media and privacy minded social
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media world overlapping with the crypto world, have been brought
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to heal in this way with a honeytrap. That's just
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a prima facia lead. So onto what Madjdna was says.
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Now many of our viewers will know the background from
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about a decago that mister Nawas was an Islamist and
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Islamic extremist in Britain before reaching an arrangement, I will
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say neutrally with the British deep state. So here he
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tweets from his high horse, I've never set foot on
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that cesspit of an app called Telegram and he then
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levels his accusation, which the quality of the prose is
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something here. I think this is why Nawas was nobbled
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by their British state. He says Telegram was definitely used
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to traffic in underage flesh. Well, might you have just
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shown that it is not even a blip on the
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radar compared with regime compliant social media sites that have
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oodles of child pornography available and child prostitution. He says
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that Telegram was definitely used to host snuff films, and
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run cartel operations. Then he pins the tale on the
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donkey and says, is it reasonable to assume that's a
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way of avoiding a direct accusation that mister Dulov profited
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from proceeds of organized crime. I don't know whether you
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have a thought on whether it's fair in any way
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to accuse the CEO of an organization in this way
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of such things, but I'll just finish the slides from
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my point. He says that in response to somebody else
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here on the next slide that pointing out that other
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apps may have been used to facilitate crime doesn't answer
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my crime anything like that. He calls what a bouchery.
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So this is a term from the world of counter terrorism.
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If you talk about a particular state or organization and
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then say no, other people have done the same thing,
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you're accused of what a bouchery. So you know, he
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says here, mister Nawaz, that other apps are immune from
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criticism for the same reason. So clear favoritism going on
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here now. Chris Pavlovski, the founder of Rumble, a video
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platform that we no longer use because of reliability issues,
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but which is in the free media camp banned in
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France at least one of you member state. I think
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here in Slovakia you can still get it, although they
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do have a special police force here just to raid
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people who make what are called pro Russian comments. So
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I have to watch my wording. Even here, mister Pavlovski,
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ho founded Rumble, says that he's just departed from Europe.
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France has threatened Rumble and now they have crossed a
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red line, he says, by arresting Durov for not centering
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free speech. And he then redoubles his stand and says
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that Rumble will not stand for this behavior, and we
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are currently fighting our own case. That's Rumble's case, and
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hope for Pavel Durov's immediate release. Also on the repercussion side,
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we see this summary that someone has made of just
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what's happened in the last week or so. UK mass
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arrests citizens for memes. France arrests founder of Telegram, having
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previously banned Rumble. Ireland tries to ban mean memes. Brazil
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forces X to flee the country. As we covered last week,
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Australia tries to center X posts. You tries to blackmail
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Elon Musk, the US Department of Justice jails someone for
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a meme despite the Second Amendment, sorry, the first Amendment,
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and mik Nikolas Maduro insent Venezuela blocks all access to X.
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It does like this is a warm up for the
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arrest of you on Musk to.
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Speaker 1: Me, Mike, well, well that's a very good point and
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a very good question. But we'll talk about this much
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more at an extra I've no diet in the meantime, Ben,
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let's welcome you to the program. And of course overnight
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we've had a major fire in Dagenham in another tire
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block apparently, but you've got a segment on what's happening
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in that part of London.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, hello, everybody, fantastic to be here, is ever
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And there has been a fire in Dagenham overnight and
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it looks like a serious one. Luckily not too many
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people hurt, but it certainly is it bears a resemblance,
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shall we say, to what happened at Grenfell with some
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crowding on on a tower block going up in flames.
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Luckily many more people were able to escape this one,
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and we'll see how that develops.
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Speaker 4: And it is.
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Speaker 3: Almost certainly linked in some way to talk to what
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I'm going to talk about, to talk a bit about
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what's been happening embarking and dagging, and particularly as it
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relates to the Council. And I'm going to talk about
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a report that was issued a few weeks back by Demos,
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who we have been talking about quite a bit and
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we're going to continue to talk about quite a bit,
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because they are the most influential think tank in the
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country right now. Absolutely, as we've spoken about previously. They
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were founded in nineteen ninety four by Sir Jeff Mulgan,
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who I spoke about last week. They used to share
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an office with Common Purpose, and they sit right in
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the heart of this idea of social and democratic innovation
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and in particular public private partnerships and this fascist marketplace,
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which is essentially what appears to be the new Labor
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Government's idea of what an economic system should be. And
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actually I think it's extraordinarily dangerous once you dig into
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the detail of it and you look at what's actually
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happening behind the scenes. So the report was called only
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we can say of the State Lessons from National Government
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from Public Service Reform in Barking and Dagenham. It was
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written by this fellow Chris Naylor, who is currently a
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managing director of a public a public service consultancy called
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in a Circle, and he was actually the chief executive
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of the London borough of Barking and Dagenham from twenty
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fourteen to twenty twenty one. And they talk about it
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in absolutely glowing terms. So this idea, the Barking Dagenham
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a place that could be absolutely everywhere and they see
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this as a model for how local and national government
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should run. Right, And as I say, this is an
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extremely influential think tank, so we really should be paying
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attention to what they're saying here. So what is Barking
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and Dagenham. It's a London borough in the southeast of
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the city, population of around two hundred and twenty thousand
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people and is most famous most known for its or
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certainly up until recent decades, the existence of the Ford
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Motor Plant, which opened in nineteen thirty one and was
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a huge industrial asset for the nation. It employed around
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fifty eight thousand workers at its peak and provided a
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real bedrock for the local community. It was a place
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where they could create wealth and prosperity, get job satisfaction,
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build self reliance, for themselves and their families. And it
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was a huge industrial asset, as I said, for the nation,
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building about eleven million cars and thirty nine million engines
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over a period of about sixty years. But since the
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turn of the century production has crashed, supply chains has
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moved overseas, and from its peak of fifty eight thousand
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people working there now employs just two thousand people at
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that plant. And that has completely transformed the borough and
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its ability to generate revenue and to sustain and to
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govern itself ultimately, and we've also seen an enormous a
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democrat transformation of the borough as well. So in two
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thousand and one, eighty nine percent of the population identified
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as being White British, and just ten years later, by
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twenty eleven, that had reduced to forty eight percent identifying
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as White British. So that's a nearly forty percent drop
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in native population due to de industrialization but also ultimately
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to mass immigration. Now in two thousand and six, and
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it's wri This is so interesting if you think about
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the current context what's going on in the country. In
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two thousand and six, the BNP made an astonishing series
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of gains on the local Council. They had twelve councilors
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elected to the local council. This certainly through the cat
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amongst the pigeons, amongst the media elites and the liberal intelligentsia.
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Obviously all of this was to do with lies and
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distortions according to the Independent, nothing to do with the
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industrialization and mass immigration. You have to pull all that
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stuff aside and ignore it. It was a huge focus
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for organizations like Hope Not Hate and the Guardian, And
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you can see here Billy Braggs is in twenty ten
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chest beating in the Guardian talking about the fact that
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they're a huge victory had been one by the anti
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fascists against the far right fascist of the BMP.
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Speaker 4: All of this, I'm sure sounding very familiar.
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Speaker 3: If you've been paying attention to anything that's been happening
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in the country over the past few weeks, then all
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of this stuff I think will certainly resonate with you, right,
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And how do they do that well. One of the
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ways that they did it was by flooding the borough
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with activists from outside of the borough. I think this
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is the most important thing up front to note, right,
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is that you've got a lot of very well backed
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anti fascist activists who were very happy to go in
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and dedicate their time and their resources to pushing back
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against what frankly were the express needs and concerns of.
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Speaker 4: The local people. Right.
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Speaker 3: The BNP won those council seats. There's no insinuation. I
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don't think that they cheated in any way that the
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liberal left, the people who very much are representative of
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the current administration of government, didn't like to didn't want
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to hear that, didn't like that at all. So they
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campaign and pushed back and they won back the borough.
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They also then embarked on two parallel streams of activity,
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really quite substantial things. The first one was about completely
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reorganizing the council.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 3: So the first thing that they talk about is this
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idea of community solutions. I'm going back to the report now,
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and this was about, i think, rethinking Barking and Dagenham.
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What do we actually do, how do we organize ourselves
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around the needs of citizens?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 3: And this is how they were previously organized. So this
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is a siloed industrial model where if you're a citizen
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and you need to go to children's services, you'll have
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to go in and speak to them and give them
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your information and you'll have a completely distinct identity on
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their system. They won't know who you were before you
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walk through the door, and if you go to the
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library or you go to the debt and money service,
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you'll have to do the same thing over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: So that's a very inefficient way of running things. And thankfully,
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because of digital technology, we're able to address this. We
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can have a single point of access for council services.
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It's been a big part of how they've transformed service delivery.
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So they talk about this use of data. Effective use
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of data can identify struggling households enough for proactive, tailored
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support to help boost their incomes before they hit crisis point. Right,
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So they're using all this technology and a reorganization of
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council services to unfortunate have the build has already built.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry about that. But essentially they've.
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Speaker 3: Got a model which shows how they've used technology and
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a data platform to transform the way that they interact
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with with local people. And some of that has been beneficial,
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but actually I think a lot of it is quite sinister.
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Speaker 4: If you look at this quote here, I think is
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quite telling.
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Speaker 3: So if you think about basically says that some of
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the engagement that we were doing through this process of
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digitization was carefully curated and embedded into formal pathways, but
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more often than not, it was organic and deeply human.
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My favorite example was the WhatsApp group established by a
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member of the Triarche team to support young single mums
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who were in debt.
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Speaker 4: This colleague had noticed.
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Speaker 3: That some of the mums were starting to offer each
22:24
other support on asking them more, she learned that for
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many young women, talking to other young women who had
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had similar experiences and had found a route to successfully
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managing her debt is one of the best sources of
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advice and support. So what you're looking at here is
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a bureaucrat in the Council coming to the startling revelation
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because of some research that people help their friends out
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with advice and they have conversations with each other.
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Speaker 4: But obviously we.
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Speaker 3: Can't allow that to happen without the Council being involved,
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without the professionals being involved with how they talk about themselves.
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So they have to create a WhatsApp group to insert
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themselves into that process. But obviously, and then the solutions
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that we offer are all going to be council solutions
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ultimately paid for by the tax payer because that's ultimately
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who is.
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Speaker 4: Running this thing.
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Speaker 3: So he had a big impact, right, So they saved
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five million pounds a year in baseline costs, which is
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what digital does, right. It strips out a whole load
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of back end cost so it makes it much more
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efficient to deliver services. There are a whole bunch of
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other things in there that they say were positives. I'm
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not completely convinced that that's the case. And in parallel
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with this, they were also running this thing called b First,
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so there was a transformation of council services on the
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one hand, but then also they've established this new entity
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what they call a Growth and Regeneration Company, and this
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is wholly owned by the council. It's focused on regeneration
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and development. It was launching twenty eighteen and it was
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about increasing the patient scale of growth in the borough
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and doing it in a way that benefited citizens, but
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funded by the council, and delivering revenues and profits back
23:59
to the council. So this is essentially a public private
24:02
partnership which the council is using to fund its own operations.
24:06
Effectively in perpetuity. I mean, that's the game that they're
24:08
trying to play here. They've got a load of things
24:10
going on all around the borough. There's forty five projects.
24:14
All of this is about regeneration and property development and
24:18
new energy type projects, right, and absolutely none of it
24:22
is to do with building real proper industries like the
24:25
fore plant, which was actually the source of wealth and
24:27
prosperity for the community. It's been extraordinarily successful. They actually
24:33
say that it's exceeded their ten point three million per
24:36
annum revenue, but they don't say by how much. It
24:40
does sound like this has now become bigger than the council.
24:43
And so you've got this public private partnership that is
24:45
bigger than the council. And they talk about it in
24:49
these terms of becoming equals with development capital. So they're
24:54
actually operating as equal partners with development capital. Mean that
24:57
literally is the definition of public partnership. That is this
25:01
fascist marketplace that we're talking about, and it's not going
25:04
to deliver growth. And this is the most important thing
25:06
to talk about here. So and it's not just happening
25:08
in Barking Dagenham, it's all around the country. It's also
25:11
in Walham Forest in walthamstone Ere where I am and
25:14
I'm going to just talk very quickly about this black
25:16
Horse Lane development just to wrap this up, to just
25:18
explain to you what I'm talking about. This used to
25:20
be a big industrial industrial park and it's now been
25:26
redeveloped into a bunch of flats and that warehouse on
25:30
the left, that's an asset that is something that you
25:33
can use to produce wealth. And what we have on
25:36
the right was replaced it and what these council schemes
25:39
are doing, this is what they're building that's a liability
25:43
right because that is a buy two rent scheme built
25:46
by legal in general and black Rock, where we've replaced
25:50
industrial capacity that actually produces well for the nation with
25:54
a bunch of flats that no one will ever be
25:56
able to buy that will deliver money back to the investment,
26:00
including two the local councils, who will then use that
26:04
to fund their operations. And this is basically the philosophy
26:08
that is driving all major economic decisions across the country
26:12
right now.
26:13
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26:16
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28:05
of the Died Suddenly Exhibition which is taking place in November.
28:11
Details from Jake Fern his email addresses on the screen
28:14
will be in the show notes as well. Let's move
28:17
on then to what's been happening over the weekend in
28:20
the Middle East, and of course Hasbal launching what it
28:25
said was its retaliation for Israel's assassination of their military
28:29
commander on the thirtieth of July. They made a statement
28:34
saying the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon launched an initial response
28:38
to the assassination command of their commander at dawn on Sunday,
28:42
on the anniversary of and sorry on an Islamic anniversary
28:47
by launching a large number of drones deep into the
28:49
occupied Palestinian territories. Israel responded to that. So far it
28:56
doesn't seem to have gone much further, but it is
29:00
fairly significant escalation. The times of visual reporting, Israel's response,
29:05
IDF hits as will launch sites in Lebanon to thwart
29:08
major attack on Central and North Israel is their headline.
29:13
I'm sure that Vanessa will have much more on this
29:16
on Wednesday, so I'm not going to go any into
29:18
any more depth on this today. She'll cover this on Wednesday.
29:21
I have no doubt in the meantime in Ukraine a
29:25
massive bombardment from Russia today, fifteen regions hit by Russia's
29:30
massive attack using UAVs and missiles. There are casualties, energy
29:34
infrastructure was targeted again according to this tweet, causing emergency
29:39
part adages. Ukraine urgently needs long range run, long range
29:44
missiles and allied support to stop this terror. And of
29:47
course that tweet coming from someone on the pro Ukraine side.
29:52
In the meantime, Russia demanding that the IAEA gets involved
29:58
in as a result of the attempted attack on the
30:01
Kursk Nuclear power plant, and so that issue continues to develop.
30:09
We had a British man killed in Ukraine. This man
30:13
was working for Roters. Apparently he's a security consultant. He's
30:16
ex British military. We've got his LinkedIn page. His name
30:20
is Ryan Evans and if we look at who the
30:23
types of organization he's been working for in recent years.
30:26
I don't know anything about his military career, but post
30:28
military care career working as a maritime security advisor for
30:32
Plexus Close Protection Control Risks and Guarded World and also
30:38
black Onyx Concepts Limited and then finally more recently for Routers.
30:44
So he was killed as a result of a Russian
30:47
missile attack on the hotel that they were in, and
30:49
at least the missi'll hit the attack. I'm not sure
30:51
whether that was particularly the target for it, but don't worry.
30:56
Over the weekend, Keir Starmer was promoting the Bang Your
31:00
Parts for Ukraine campaign that we were mentioning on Friday.
31:03
So here he is Britain will always stand with Ukraine
31:05
because this was Ukrainian Independence Day. Now we have a
31:08
little bit of video. Ben watched this closely and be
31:11
interested to get your thoughts in a second.
31:15
Speaker 5: To the people of Ukraine. From the people of Britain.
31:19
We send you our warmest wishes as you mark your
31:23
independence day. I want you to know that we stand
31:28
with you for as long as it takes, with whatever
31:33
it takes, until victory, until a just and lasting piece
31:40
Slava Ukraine.
31:44
Speaker 1: So Ben, what did you notice?
31:48
Speaker 3: Is he doing that funny hand scene, that Blair and
31:51
William Hagen, that Daughdre they all in some kind of
31:54
club together.
31:54
Speaker 4: Is that what's happening here?
31:56
Speaker 1: That's a very good question. That is a very good question.
31:58
I don't know the answer to it, but there we go. Okay.
32:01
So and then finally then just to mention in passing
32:05
that the United States Air Forces in Europe have stationed
32:09
a Global Hawk drone for the first time on English soil,
32:13
so that has been moved on to RAF Fairford temporarily.
32:17
They say, this is all about practicing, making sure that
32:21
there are places they can send this equipment should they
32:24
need to, should there be some kind of emergency in
32:27
their normal stations. But Alex has come back to you then,
32:32
and nuclear weapons.
32:35
Speaker 2: The New York Times has picked up on a document
32:38
which is so classifying that it doesn't exist on the
32:41
Internet or even the intranet. It is only in hard copy,
32:45
and it has been permitted now for the New York Times,
32:50
which of course is a newspaper of record with that
32:53
privileged briefing rights. They've been permitted to note that the
32:58
latest development here is called Biden approved because he doesn't
33:02
know what day of the week it is, so he's
33:03
been told what to approve. But the thing that's new
33:06
is that Russia, China, and North Korea are being regarded
33:08
as a possible coordinated nuclear threat. So the key paragraph
33:13
here is that the document called the Nuclear Employment Guidance has,
33:17
according to an authorized briefing on what's in the document
33:21
that nobody's allowed to see, says that now US senior
33:25
strategists need to reckon with the possibility that stability that
33:29
these three Eurasian powers will launch strikes in a coordinated fashion.
33:34
It reminds me of when I spoke to Joel Skousen
33:36
a few years ago. Perhaps Kenny will put the link
33:39
into the show notes for that, in which Skousan pointed
33:43
out that even back in Clinton's day, he was leaned
33:45
upon by the eminent degrees of his time in office
33:49
to amend Presidential Defense Directive sixty PDD sixty similarly classified,
33:55
so that allegedly the United States since then has gone
33:58
to an absorb first strike stance. Let all the Eurasian
34:02
powers in the event of doomsday third World war, let
34:05
them strike America, take out the strategic nuclear forces, and
34:08
then the ridiculous idea is America will be able to respond.
34:11
So there's some very deep strategic skullduggery going on here.
34:17
We also see that Uncle Sam's bark may be worse
34:20
than his bite. Now, the US Naval Institute, as this
34:24
very often useful, SITSNI news, which is quite frank about
34:28
crewing issues. And we see that seventeen support ships that
34:32
is not frontline attack ships, a dozen of which, so
34:34
the lion's share, are expeditionary supply vessels, the kind you
34:38
need actually to relieve and restock the war fighting vessels.
34:42
They could actually just be effectively mothbled, sidelined in the
34:46
language of the headline, because they don't have the cruise.
34:49
There's only one hundred and twenty seven sailors in the
34:52
US Navy for these categories of ships, for every hundred
34:54
that are needed at sea at any time.
34:57
Speaker 4: There is no.
35:00
Speaker 2: There's no play here. There's no slack for rule monts
35:03
and in any civilian marine maritime setting this would not,
35:08
of course be tolerated. And the same thing's happened to
35:10
the British Navy in a more advanced way that the
35:12
cruis are constantly being sent back out to sea because
35:15
there's nobody else really available for the jobs. Meanwhile, in Ireland,
35:21
allegedly one of the neutral members of the United of
35:25
the EU, although it's in its the EU's Military Association PESCO,
35:29
it's of course not in NATO. The Irish Republic is
35:31
said to be open to buying Israeli drones. Now, the
35:34
criticism they got during the negotiations over whether they would
35:37
be in PESCO, which they ended up being, was that
35:39
Ireland said we mustn't compromise our constitutional andhosoric neutrality, and
35:43
they said at the time we won't be buying any
35:45
attack equipment for land, sea and air. But this allegedly
35:48
would go into the category of peacekeeping and other things
35:51
that Ireland allows itself to do at home and abroad.
35:53
One has to ask, if these are surveillance drones, who
35:56
is the target audience? Is it the people of Ireland. Finally,
36:00
on a mini military section, from me. I apologize that
36:03
this is just less than a minute in Czech, but
36:05
it is important to see what's going on here. Petra Pavel,
36:09
the President of the Czech Republic, the head of state,
36:12
has weighed in, despite being a landlocked head of state,
36:16
on the law of the sea, and in this clip,
36:18
those of you who are watching in video with subtitles
36:21
will be able to see and then will summarize for
36:22
you what he said about the nord Stream attack, which,
36:26
although some time ago, continues to dominate geopolitics in Central Europe.
36:36
Speaker 6: Lenovo nord stream soren tivat.
36:44
Speaker 4: President Zelanski meets you.
36:49
Speaker 6: Jamma in formam style, so that it was burning conflict
37:02
proti wain skim my stratgis ki character areas and natoyak
37:14
do davki plinu r ropi door epi pens ruski bito
37:24
as you can slamik national let alti inform.
37:33
Speaker 4: So.
37:34
Speaker 2: President Pavel says, I don't know whether Zelenski was in
37:38
on it or not, because that was what they was
37:39
put to him by the interviewer. But if it was
37:41
aimed at cutting off Russian oil and gas supplies to Europe,
37:45
that's a legitimate target. You know, not the head of
37:48
state or government of any of the Baltic Sea litteral nations,
37:52
but a landlocked head of state. He's speaking here, I
37:54
think from his previous position as the head of NATO's
37:57
Military Committee, and indeed perhaps beyond that, as a communist
38:02
Czechoslovak general as he then was well and an army
38:05
officer who then moved to general. He's so Atlanticist that
38:08
there's a very little Central European or check thinking in
38:11
his message at all.
38:12
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, thanks Alex, And just to finish off this
38:15
defense segment, then we'll bring Sir Steven Lovegrove on because
38:19
we were talking about August last week and he is
38:23
now been appointed August to the August project. So this
38:27
is from John Healey, our Minister of War. August won't
38:31
just bolster our defense and security, but can drive jobs
38:33
and growth across the UK. So that's great. Sir Stephen
38:37
Will has widely respected national security experience. He has a
38:42
wealth experience, according to the press release, as the National
38:45
Security Advisor at the time of the August announcement in
38:47
twenty twenty one, and as the previous Permanent Secretary to
38:50
the Ministry of Defense, he's going to lead a piece
38:53
of work to reinforce the progress and benefits of the
38:56
August program. So this is fantastic stuff. But Alex, very
39:00
very briefly, he has a bed of history, particularly with
39:03
respect to the EU.
39:05
Speaker 2: Yes, a piece of work would be the right term.
39:08
It's a whitehall internal phrase for a project. But yes, Lovegrove,
39:14
you know, was with no notable defense background. He was
39:17
a wordsmith, brought in from the private sector, was put
39:20
into the headach the very senior civil service, where he
39:24
managed to champion Black Lives Matter and as you've alluded to,
39:27
really cheerlead for the EU at a very senior level.
39:30
But that's what's expected of these national security advisors. It's
39:33
a role that post dates my time only from twenty
39:35
ten onwards. Did we have a National Security Council or
39:38
a National Security Advisor. We've had half a dozen so far,
39:40
and they've all been extremely political.
39:42
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, well let's move on to constitutional issues. Aks.
39:47
Speaker 2: Yes, the constitutional wrecking ball continues in all of what follows.
39:50
I am not being party political. I'm simply making the
39:53
neutral observation that many have made that the Labor Party
39:57
in its current manifestation is the deep State party choice
40:00
more than the Conservative Party, because it meant that aligns
40:02
more naturally with policymakers and GEO world's priorities in such
40:07
matters as EU military integration for a start. So here
40:11
we see Lee Anderson. You'll see his signature in a
40:13
moment writing to the Home Secretary, Britain's interior minister not
40:18
actually responsible for the police forces, not even in England
40:21
and Wales. Although many people think that the Home Secretary is,
40:24
They're not constitutionally but this is as close as you
40:27
get to ministerial accountability for the police. And Anderson's talking
40:31
about a potential contempt of court. He's saying that the
40:35
Home Office, her own department, has been putting out tweets
40:39
and you'll find the links in the show notes, saying
40:41
that the people arrested over the recent disturbances in British
40:44
cities are criminals and they will face the full force
40:47
of the law before they've even been put to the trial.
40:50
And mister Anderson goes on to say he's a Conservative
40:53
member of Parliament of course, now in the opposition, will
40:55
the criminal records be checked by the Home Office and
40:57
will this all be posted on x if no have
41:01
they not had that criminal records check prior to appearing
41:04
in court. Why is the Home Office pronouncing them guilty?
41:07
At the best, he says, this is inappropriate and unprofessional.
41:10
At worst, it appears to be a possible contempt of court.
41:13
Of course, individuals are often threatened with this charge, but
41:15
politicians and parliament and ministers can very much be held
41:19
in contempt of court as well. So Anderson's onto something there.
41:23
We'll don't know how far this will get. The best
41:26
written sorry, it's a short vocal summary of this verbal summary.
41:29
Is my a YouTuber named or goes by the channel
41:33
name of history debunked and he again provides links they'll
41:36
be in the show. Notes to the offending tweets won
41:38
by the Home Office, so Britain's or at least England
41:40
and Wales's Interior Ministry saying the criminals will face the
41:44
full force of the law. Another by Merseyside Police for
41:47
covering Liverpool, one of the worst hit cities in the riots.
41:49
Because of course, Southport, where the murders of the little
41:51
girls occurred, was at the epicenter of this shock. Merseyside
41:55
Police arrested somebody and filmed it coming back into the
41:58
country published the street in which he lives in, inviting
42:02
vigilante attacks on his family, and also set the arrest
42:06
of him being put in a white Mariah a police
42:08
fan to music. That is how far we have sunk
42:11
really in the presentation of interior matters, presumption of guilt,
42:19
and we go on to sorry that this is telegram.
42:22
It must be really nasty stuff if I'm presenting telegram.
42:26
But you see a lot of political analysis is here.
42:28
We see that the real Prime Minister of Britain, according
42:31
to Robin Monotty and Corey morning Star, his Lord Ali.
42:34
I'm sorry to have to call him Lord Ali, because
42:36
this is one of these fake lords that we've had
42:38
in recent years. But we see that Sir Kia Kastama's
42:41
biggest personal donor, has a personal security past the Downing
42:44
Street and is pretty much uniquely allowed to host fundraising
42:47
and donor events in number ten Downing Street for the
42:51
political hearts of government. And he's cybled up in particular
42:55
in his career to female labor leading lights. He was
42:59
brought into the Labor Party by Emily Thornbury of a
43:02
notorious notoriety in the previous decade, Angela Rayner has now
43:07
the Deputy Prime Minister stayed effectively at his great and
43:10
favor in New York. And there was also Angie Hunter,
43:15
a nji that is, who was Tony Blair's chief people person,
43:19
who was you know, brought him into the inner sanctum.
43:22
So he seems to be the link with Blair, and
43:26
Blair wanted him to be the appeal to the youth
43:28
as it were. He seems to be running a lot
43:32
of labor and hence deep state policy at the moment.
43:35
This has been reported largely by the Times, although it
43:38
was first reported of course by smaller bloggers. Crony as
43:42
and accusations swirl around Kirs Darma, the TV mogul Wahid
43:46
Ali gains access normally reserved for staff and officials. Now then,
43:52
what's the other scandal going on? Well, Henry Newman, a
43:55
blogger whose blog will be linked, who's a Whitehall insider
43:59
formerly at the Cabinet Office and an advisor, has picked
44:02
up on this. Originally reported by the pro conservative Guido
44:05
Fawkes blog. There is a woman named Jess Sargent, a
44:09
former director of a group called Labour Together, whose unabashed
44:12
aim is to keep the labor party in power. And
44:14
she's been appointed at the heart of the really most
44:18
sensitive nexus of the Cabinet Office, which itself is the
44:22
dark heart of the British government. There is a group
44:25
there used to be called Propriety and Ethics Team PET.
44:28
It's now ominously called Propriety and Constitutional Group. It owns
44:32
the Royals, the Privy Council. It decides when ministers have
44:36
broken the Ministerial Code, which is a de facto pseudo
44:38
constitution for Britain. And it's, as he says, crossing a
44:43
line because this is the constitutional guardian for the whole
44:46
of government. Though this woman will not be sackable according
44:50
to convention if we have another party in government. It's
44:54
a move towards American style party political appointment at very
44:58
high level. Meanwhile, the Scottish Date Express reports that the
45:02
Scottish government was actually behind the scenes behind instigating egging
45:08
along the creation of this ridiculous hate monster that was
45:13
quite a feature last year. You know, this apparition that
45:16
turned up and said I hate everyone, and this was
45:18
supposed to instruct everyone on social media not to be
45:21
like the hate monster. It was presented at the time
45:23
as an initiative by Police Scotland merely in the interests
45:26
of crime fighting. But now emails have been dug up
45:29
that butte House, the Scottish government was actually emailing Police
45:32
Scotland saying hurry up with this concept. And to top
45:35
it all, this hate monster was demographically profiled. It was
45:39
given basically the appearance of what's known in Scotland as
45:42
a NED, a young man with a glass wee working
45:44
class accent, just to really lay it on thick that
45:48
young white, working class people from disadvantaged areas are the
45:51
ones we want you to come down hard on. Not
45:55
well healed middle aged females for example. Regime compliant people
45:59
know they can never express it's always the neds in
46:01
this case. And now we see that that came straight
46:03
from governments.
46:05
Speaker 1: Yes, but at this point, Alex, we still don't have
46:07
the name of the person who put the signature on
46:10
the contract and maybe that's something to get hold off.
46:13
But I just wanted to very briefly mention the events
46:17
in Germany over the weekend. So German police arrest twenty
46:20
six year old man over the Sologen stabbing attack, says
46:24
Al Jazeera, various reports saying that he was linked to
46:29
Isis or that he has an Isis pro Issis ideology.
46:33
The key thing here, I think that we need to
46:35
recognize is that he was from Syria. And many of
46:40
the people, if not significant proportion of the people that
46:43
are so called refugees from Syria in particular in Europe
46:48
and the UK, have been from the opposition side of
46:51
that civil war, So the anti Asad side of the
46:54
civil war, and therefore are effectively have been operating on
46:58
behalf of the the West and Britain and the EU
47:02
in particular. So we may then ask the question when
47:07
we see things like this from the Foreign Office giving
47:11
a safety and security report for Germany and saying things
47:15
and also from France, oh sorry, but saying things like
47:20
we know that there's going to be an increase of
47:22
this type of terrorism in the coming days and weeks
47:25
and months, Well I would ask the question, how do
47:27
they know. Is it just because they've got great intelligence
47:31
going on, they've got the rear to the ground and
47:33
they know exactly what's going on, or is it because
47:35
these people are actually agents of the state in some way.
47:39
And then, just to mention this tweet here, I wanted
47:43
to get your thoughts on this Alex because this is
47:46
from europe Invasion saying UK government prepares to deploy asylum
47:50
seekers across the country and they're talking about immigrants being
47:53
given priority over Britain's when it comes to finding housing.
47:56
But I was interested in the use of this term
47:59
deploy because this is how I'm seeing things at the moment.
48:04
Immigration is being used as a tool to wind up
48:08
the population of countries, whether it be in the UK
48:11
or at the weekend in Germany.
48:14
Speaker 2: So it is a deployment, yes, And it's interesting you've
48:19
picked up on this particular tweet, which was also retweeted
48:22
by Elon Musk in his currents genuine or or bogus
48:25
turned to the nationalist right. Europe Invasion is you know
48:30
the kind of Twitter accounts x account that people in
48:34
regime compliance circles love to cackle about and say, don't
48:37
be taken in by this this rabbel rousing stuff. They
48:40
have got a better track record than others in that
48:43
slice of X or Twitter, that that domain, and we'll
48:46
see what becomes of it. But my memory stretches back
48:49
to again the Blair regime, where there was what was
48:52
then known as the Dispersal policy followed by a number
48:55
of Northern European countries about the same time or a
48:57
bit later, where in this case a lot of Kurds,
49:00
and as you pointed out with reference to the Near East,
49:01
it's often know more Islamic and opposition elements of those societies.
49:07
Kurts were sent to places completely unable to deal with them.
49:10
The poorest parts of northern English and Scottish cities suddenly
49:14
received bus loads of Kurts. It was a total disaster,
49:16
and at the time it was put about that this
49:18
was deliberately in the phrase use at the time, rubbing
49:21
the notice of the right in diversity. Speaking of diversity,
49:25
then we have this an exclusive given to the Daily Mirror,
49:28
which of course is a Labor Party supporting title of
49:32
long standing. So that's why they got the friendly exclusive
49:35
gentlemen of West African heritage. Mister Boikier, who is interestingly
49:39
described as an educator again one of these bland American
49:43
American eyed titles. What is he a school teacher? What
49:45
didn't he used that term? He's got over a thousand,
49:49
not a great ni number really in the scheme of things,
49:51
but if you want to big it up politically, it
49:52
is over a thousand signatures from teachers and social workers
49:56
or they're called social works in the bylines of these
49:59
days calling for mandatory anti racism and anti Islamophobia training
50:03
in school school not schools. You see how many areas
50:06
there are in bylines these days after the riots saw
50:09
children as young as twelve years taking part. A little
50:12
more detail provided by the Telegraph, which, although execrable, is
50:14
a bit better than the mirror. Still and here we
50:17
see that England is basically going the same way as
50:19
Scottish education under figures like Millionai valde Leebre, a French
50:25
educator we're supposed to say now who moved to Scotland
50:27
to specialize in this. Scottish educators were Scottish teachers were
50:31
given a lot of training in interrupting whiteness and challenging
50:34
white privilege. This is now going south of the border,
50:37
as the Telegraph as finding out. There's a lot of
50:39
detail in the archived Telegraph report that will be in
50:41
the show notes. If you're new to that scene. The
50:43
best place to start is a substack blog called Scottish
50:47
Union for Education.
50:49
Speaker 1: And yes, we'll talk about much more about this an
50:52
extra I think, But anyway, let's move on then, Ben
50:56
and a name that I haven't heard before, Kantar.
51:02
Speaker 3: Canta Yes, well, we talked about the organization previously but
51:07
under its neuition, so it was formerly Cantile Public and
51:12
it was spun out last.
51:14
Speaker 4: Year from WPP.
51:16
Speaker 3: WPP the biggest global advertising group run by Mark Reid,
51:20
who's a young global leader of the World Economic Forum.
51:22
They span out Cantata Public, which is about a billion
51:25
dollars of global revenue specializing in research for public sector clients.
51:31
And it's become this thing called Variant, which you've spoken
51:34
about previously and popped up again because Varian and others
51:38
are turning at democratic processes into a marketplace where they're
51:43
going to make lots of money forcing through radical left
51:47
wing political agendas.
51:49
Speaker 4: It's really a remarkable thing to.
51:50
Speaker 3: Watch, actually, So I'm going to talk a bit about
51:53
this for the UK CEO, Craig Watkins. He's former MJ
51:58
Ministry of Justice Civil Van. He then went to e
52:01
Y where he helped them build up a two hundred
52:04
million pounds a year government business, and then he joined Cantar.
52:07
Speaker 4: And is now the UK CEO.
52:09
Speaker 1: Verian.
52:09
Speaker 4: I'm going to come back to him in a moment.
52:11
Speaker 3: He's an important part of this as you could probably
52:14
understand giving you lose the UK business. But also on
52:16
the board of trustees of the organization we have this
52:19
guy who is Matthew Postgate, who is a former or
52:25
through the former Chief Technology and Product Officer of the
52:28
BBC and also on the Strategic Command within the UK
52:32
Ministry of Defense. It gives you a sense of the
52:34
connections this organization has. And also David Milliband is on
52:40
board Burian as well. Miller Band obviously we know well
52:43
here former UK Foreign Secretary currently an International Rescue which
52:49
is basically a Soros aligned organization. He's one of the
52:53
key architects of the Climate Change Act being implemented by
52:56
his brother Ed, and early this we saw David hanging
53:01
around a girl's house and dabos. So he's very focused
53:03
on delivering and the sustainable development goals, and I think
53:06
we should understand that very is also very focused on
53:09
delivering the sustainable development goals. Verian is also very much
53:13
aligned with this organization who I've spoken about previously, the
53:16
Rekivic Forum, which is working to empower more women to
53:20
obtain and retain power.
53:22
Speaker 4: So it's very ideologically driven.
53:25
Speaker 3: They've actually issued joint reports and I did talk about
53:28
this one earlier in the year where Varian and the
53:30
RECUVIIC Global Forum coming out and saying their explicit goal
53:35
is that we want to live in a world where
53:36
men and women are viewed as equally suitable to lead,
53:39
and that is going against the data that they were
53:42
gathering for that report which I spoke about back in
53:44
I think it was a February or March time, so
53:47
very ideologically driven and also right at the center of
53:53
the European and global political system.
53:55
Speaker 4: So actually the official data provider we can see here
53:59
for the European.
54:00
Speaker 3: Parliament, so all of the it A relays to the
54:02
UK elections and polling across the whole Europe being done
54:05
by this organization, by this company, right, so you know,
54:08
they're extraordinarily influential, and they've just launched and this is
54:12
what popped up on my radar last week. They just
54:15
launched these new UK Centers of Excellence to support missionar
54:19
driven government. There's that term again, mission driven driven government.
54:23
I can't even say it. Mission driven government. You know,
54:27
the Labor Party have got the five big missions that
54:29
they're going to deliver it it's going to be the
54:31
whole of government effort to make this happen, and we're
54:33
actually going to bring in the private sector to help
54:35
us out, which is what is happening here. So Craig,
54:38
let's bring him back up. He was very excited and
54:41
he made a statement talking about his delight in announcing
54:45
these new seven Centers of Excellence, which will bring together
54:49
the three variant pillars of our multi methods technical expertise.
54:54
I'm sorry for the corporate nonsense jargon, but this is
54:57
how these people speak. They're all so excited about the
55:01
ability to bring the uksess and into the heart of
55:04
participatory decision making right crucially, So this is sortition, this
55:10
is democratic innovation. This is what they're doing as well
55:14
as our policy and subject matter experts. So you've got
55:18
policy experts who are coming up with the ideas and
55:20
then use these participatory decision making processes to get decisions
55:25
to go along with right going to be paid to
55:28
do it. This is a private company operating in a
55:31
public private marketplace. The people that are going to be
55:33
paying them are central, local, regional government.
55:37
Speaker 1: Right.
55:37
Speaker 3: This is the client ultimately for this stuff. And if
55:39
we could just pop back to that slide quickly. We
55:41
can sit at the bottom here that it says that
55:43
they're going to be bringing these clients the latest innovations
55:46
from across the globe. This is about introducing new ideas,
55:50
new technologies, new ways of doing things across the globe
55:54
into the UK using these democratic processes or actually not
55:59
very democratic process is the way they talk about them
56:01
is democratic, but I think it's quite the opposite, to
56:03
be honest with you.
56:04
Speaker 4: So there's the.
56:07
Speaker 3: Copy for they're talking about the Center for Mission Delivery.
56:11
I won't really like the whole thing, but you can
56:12
see that at the top of the bullet point list
56:14
there it says evidence based, iterative policy design, and behavioral science.
56:19
Behavioral science is NUDGE. That's the Behavioral Insights team, as
56:23
David Alpen it's Cash sun Stein.
56:25
Speaker 4: That is that entire methodology, ideology.
56:30
Speaker 3: That is infected the whole of the global communications industry,
56:34
presented here by variant.
56:36
Speaker 4: That's what they're doing, right. And I won't go for
56:39
all seven.
56:39
Speaker 3: Of the capabilities because we haven't got time, but I'll
56:43
just talk about a couple. The first one here is
56:45
the Center for Value for Money. So apparently we have
56:49
to pay an international corporation to come in to help
56:54
our public servants understand whether what they're doing is value
56:57
for money or not. Are our public servants completely incapable
57:03
of doing anything I think they probably are actually by
57:06
the looks of it, other than issuing contracts to companies
57:09
like burying, it would seem. And then finally we talk
57:12
about this a lot. You know, this idea of democratic innovations,
57:16
partisian and participatory democracy, all these lovely flushy terms that
57:20
are being bandied around by the corporatists the fascists in
57:26
our government in order to ram through policy agendas they
57:30
know that the electorate wouldn't go along with in any
57:33
other forum. That is exactly what they're describing here. So
57:36
they're going to be running deliberative workshops, stitis injuries and assemblies,
57:41
deliberative polling, online communities and code assign and participatory exercises
57:47
in order to help politicians push through a policy agenda
57:53
that whatever's handed down from Starma and whoever pulling star
58:00
with strings. And these guys are going to be making
58:02
a lot of money for doing that work.
58:06
Speaker 1: Alex. In the last number of weeks, Ben and I
58:10
at a certain degree have been talking about this participatory
58:13
a democracy idea. We've been talking about it at the
58:15
UK column for a lot longer, and particularly citizens juries
58:19
and citizens assemblies, and really we're quite sure that this
58:25
is not a good idea, because, of course what happens
58:27
is they bring in a panel of experts, and the
58:29
experts brief the citizens Assembly or the citizens jury, and
58:32
then the jury comes to the conclusion that was always
58:35
intended that they would come to. You know, you are
58:39
much more of a constitutional expert than I am. What
58:41
are your thoughts on this?
58:45
Speaker 2: It's all about the parameters that you managed to present.
58:49
You know that the whole point of having juries is
58:51
that they are supposed to examine the law in action.
58:54
They are meant to see what actually happened in a
58:57
given case, and in the classic in arrangement, they judge
59:01
whether the law was rightly passed by parliament. So they
59:04
actually do get to decide the will of parliament and
59:07
the lawfulness of the law. Against judges these days who
59:10
say we judges are the facts of the judges of
59:12
the law, and you are the judges of the facts.
59:14
No juris are meant to be at the end of
59:16
the process to see whether what was done in a
59:18
particular case to a particular individual was lawful or not.
59:23
If you call something a jury and put it at
59:25
the policy making stage, you are politicizing them by default.
59:29
You are making them their own representatives instead of the
59:32
members of parliament who are supposed to do this job
59:34
for them. You are taking them out of that pool
59:37
from which juris are meant to be selected of people
59:39
not involved in politics. Until very recently, court juris consists
59:43
had lots of bars on who could be called up
59:45
for jury duty, including anyone who was remotely involved with
59:48
policy making. So it's a devaluation of the term and
59:51
inversion of the term jury, which has happened in so
59:53
many other areas of life, like calling things a family
59:55
that are not a family. Yes, the term for this
59:58
is sortition or ali atory democracy, which literally means Brandon
1:00:02
Dice throwing democracy. Calling people in. But you don't just
1:00:04
get them to sit in a jewelry room, No, you
1:00:06
get to brief them.
1:00:07
Speaker 4: That's the.
1:00:09
Speaker 2: Core of what's going on there in the fiddle. Well,
1:00:12
I've got an and finally item here from Nick Dixon,
1:00:16
who may be known to some of our viewers as
1:00:18
someone who appears on gb News and known for his
1:00:22
darkly comedic writing. This is an absolute work of art.
1:00:25
And again I'm not cheerleading for the opposition conservatives here.
1:00:28
They have their own ways of sticking that the dagger
1:00:31
in our backs. But he is very much I think
1:00:34
down to a tee on describing the menagerialist deep state
1:00:38
approach of that is now this is now in the
1:00:41
ascendant with Sir kias Starmer. Why does nobody call him
1:00:44
sir by the way? Is he embarrassed of his knighthood
1:00:46
or is that all on his behalf, just as Anthony
1:00:49
Blair became Tony Blair and all the press complied with it. Anyway,
1:00:52
here goes Nick Dixon's tweet into Screensworth. Starmer is a managerial, midwit,
1:01:00
brittle man of winter, a dead eyed shark, pushing ever
1:01:04
forward towards his next grim, mechanical task. You could coax
1:01:08
Shakespeare himself down from the heavens to tell him of
1:01:11
all England's beauty, and he would be only annoyed that
1:01:14
you had kept him from his busy work. He is
1:01:16
a ruddy faced nothing, an interloper. To call him a
1:01:20
traitor flatters him. As the traitor surely has some sense
1:01:23
of his own wrongdoing. Starmer lacks the imagination to arrive
1:01:27
even at the foothills of his own wretchedness. His emptiness
1:01:30
could fill entire stadia. He is the final form of
1:01:34
managerial man. Signing Britain's death warrant before lunch and never
1:01:38
thinking about it twice to detest him is normal yet pointless.
1:01:43
Hatred slides off him like water off some cheap synthetic fabric.
1:01:47
He is the blank faced destroyer of joy, freedom and invention.
1:01:51
He is death on prescription equally distributed. He is nameless, dread,
1:01:56
the void, The negation that cannot be negated is the
1:02:00
end of hope. In short, I am not a fan.
1:02:04
Speaker 1: Alex. That's how I agree. That is brilliant, brilliantly written,
1:02:08
and another topic for extra as well. Everybody that's joined
1:02:14
us today, I hope you've enjoyed it. On this Bank
1:02:16
holiday Monday, we'll be back in a few minutes for extra.
1:02:20
If you're a UK column member. If you're not, join
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1:02:26
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1:02:29
you then, bye bye.