Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #327 - The Hack To Retire at 55
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- 0:00The average Australian retires at 67 with $400,000 in
- 0:04super. That's barely enough to last 10 years, let alone fund the life
- 0:08you actually want. But there's a small group of Australians who
- 0:11do retire at 55, not just comfortably, but
- 0:15with income-reducing assets that continue to pay them every single
- 0:19month. My name is Lloyd J. Ross, seven-figure investor and entrepreneur, and I've helped thousands
- 0:22of everyday Aussies get out of debt and build real wealth. And in this
- 0:25video, I'm going to show you exactly what those assets are,
- 0:29how to build them, and the one thing you need to do right now to retire
- 0:3412 years before everybody else. Before
- 0:38we do that, let's look at the problem with superannuation. I'll
- 0:41be blunt. Superannuation definitely is the most tax-advantaged wealth-building vehicle
- 0:45most Australians will have access to, for sure, right? The contributions are
- 0:49taxed at 15%, meaning you get a tax deduction when you add money to
- 0:52it to a certain amount, roughly about 25k a year. And
- 0:55then the actual investment earnings are taxed at a lower amount. In
- 0:58fact, half of the typical amount, any income. And then for
- 1:02tax, the capital gains are tax-free, right? So
- 1:05the government's handed everyone a compounding machine with a massive
- 1:09tax discount. That's effectively what superannuation is. If you want
- 1:12to learn more about super, go back and watch one of the episodes I did specifically on superannuation.
- 1:16But here's the problem. Super is not a
- 1:19retirement vehicle for a person who wants to retire at 55 because
- 1:23the preservation age for anyone born after July 1964 is 60 which
- 1:27means you cannot touch it before then without severe penalties
- 1:31and There's hardship conditions. You're gonna meet etc. So
- 1:35super is slow and it's locked up and controlled by
- 1:39government rules. So if your entire strategy is built around your
- 1:42super balance, you're going to mathematically guarantee that you'll be
- 1:45working until after 60. So if you want to retire
- 1:49before 55, you need a completely different strategy.
- 1:53So here are the three assets that you need
- 1:57to build to be able to retire at 55, okay?
- 2:02Now if you're younger and you're watching this, kudos, that's amazing. You
- 2:05have a huge advantage of time, all right? But bear with
- 2:08me as I go through these strategies because it does apply to everyone and
- 2:11anyone. And then I'm gonna explain to you an example and then go
- 2:15to give you a bit of an indication of how I treat retirement. So
- 2:19three assets you need to build. So to execute this strategy, you need to
- 2:22focus on three specific types of assets outside the super. When
- 2:26you retire and you get, say, $400,000 in super, or whatever it might be, that's great.
- 2:30And you may be more than that. And that's a lump sum of asset that
- 2:34needs to be invested accordingly as well. So is part of it. But
- 2:37to execute this strategy, you do want to focus outside super as
- 2:41well. And what you'd want to be doing is, you want to be building a
- 2:44share portfolio in a taxable account. In some sort
- 2:48of index fund, or you can buy individual shares, you have to
- 2:51know what you're doing. But you want to buy it in some sort of index fund. And you want
- 2:54to start as early as you can. And even if you started at mid-30s,
- 2:59for 20 years, you can compound up to a million bucks. You
- 3:02can, especially if you're starting with a reasonable lump sum instead of buying other
- 3:05things. It's totally possible to do. But
- 3:09most people just don't take the step because they wait too long. So for
- 3:12example, they'll, at 35 or whatever it might be, they go, oh, I've got
- 3:15ages. I'll wait till I'm 50 to start worrying about my retirement. And that's
- 3:19the real problem. You can't wait till you're 55. to
- 3:22want to retire at 55. But I do see a lot, like, I'm 55, I want to retire
- 3:26now, what do I do? I'm like, that was a conversation you should have with yourself at 35. The
- 3:31simplest thing to do is in your 30s,
- 3:34or like, it just doesn't, just do it. It doesn't matter what
- 3:37age, it just means go and start, is to build a
- 3:41share portfolio in a taxable account, outside super. So you've got kind of
- 3:44two running together, right? The next one, this is
- 3:47a very important one to amplify your ability to make
- 3:51income and I would say that almost all of the people I know who have retired
- 3:54at 55 in some form or another have had
- 3:58a business, right? A business with real cash flow. Not
- 4:01just a little side hustle where you're selling macaroons at the local market. It's like something
- 4:05that can really generate cash flow, yeah? Whether
- 4:09it's a traditional type of business or whether it's an online business, a
- 4:12well-run business can return 20, 30 or 40% on invested capital, right?
- 4:16It can produce substantial returns but most importantly, it gives you
- 4:19a lot of flexibility. Flexibility to amplify your income, flexibility
- 4:23to step out of jobs you don't like, flexibility to skill up, flexibility
- 4:26to add income streams and to deploy that cash how you feel fit,
- 4:30right? And potentially work from home, drop some costs like what I do. So
- 4:35a business is a wealth building
- 4:38machine in the sense that it really amplifies your
- 4:41income. And if you look at the wealthiest people in the world and those that did
- 4:44retire at 55 and have, it's business that generates that without
- 4:48a doubt. Like it's such an integral
- 4:52part of the wealth building process. And I think when I
- 4:55say business, people get a bit scared because we have, we have
- 4:58been conditioned. by
- 5:03whoever, banks to limit exposure and risk, whatever it is, to think
- 5:06that all business purely is risky. Because, you know, someone like Tony Robbins goes, well,
- 5:09you know that 80% of businesses fell in the first five years. It's
- 5:13not that they failed. For most businesses, if
- 5:16you really work hard on them, you're not going to fail on them. Like, you'd
- 5:19be shocked and surprised to how many flipping half kind
- 5:23of like, semi-retarded people make
- 5:26money in businesses. You can do it. It's not overly risky,
- 5:30it just carries a bit more risk. But so does employment, by the way. Who's
- 5:33to say you can't get chopped at your work? Like, that's risky,
- 5:37but they never talk about that risk, do they? Because it doesn't serve the narrative. If I
- 5:40think about my grandparents, give you an example here. Now,
- 5:43they didn't retire at 55, but I do believe they retired at
- 5:47early 60s. And so it's not too far off the mark.
- 5:51But here's an example. didn't come from any money, poor,
- 5:55you know, gone into bankruptcy a couple of times, or once, certainly, but
- 6:00they, in their 40s, they bought their first country pub, okay? And
- 6:06the person they wanted to buy it off said they didn't have the capacity to run it and blah, blah, blah. But my grandfather
- 6:09said, I'm going to do it anyway. And so they ended up buying a pub. And
- 6:13actually, the first six months of my life, I spent in this pub. And
- 6:18it's actually in a place called Atunga, New South Wales, the Atunga Pub. I
- 6:21lived for the first six months of my life in there, because my dad was building another house, and
- 6:25we just stayed there. And then they bought another one and another one. Anyway,
- 6:29they went back into some farming that had some challenging seasons, sheep farming, and
- 6:32they sold that sheep farm and they went back and thought, you know what, let's stick to our knitting
- 6:35and we'll go back into a pub. Now, in their 50s,
- 6:39just to give you the indication, my grandmother, she's 91. She told
- 6:42me this story the other day when I was visiting her. She said you know when
- 6:45we're in our early 50s. We took a $400,000 loan this
- 6:49isn't like 1991 or 1990 think about that a
- 6:53$400,000 loan in 1990 that's like equivalent to probably like one and a half
- 6:57million or two million like it's a lot and in
- 7:00their early fifties and they bought a country pub in Baraboo, New
- 7:03South Wales for that price and they did it up and they ran it and
- 7:07they built up the equity and it generated income that paid off the debt and
- 7:10they ended up selling that and buying two additional pubs with free cash flow that
- 7:14funded their retirement and both of them retired in their sixties until
- 7:19what? God, my grandmother's now is 91. What's that, 30 years
- 7:23or certainly 20, good 25 years and So
- 7:27they swung at a business, like you can see, like even
- 7:30though they did it with debt, it's the business that can generate income, right? So
- 7:34of course, you're going to have super, of course, you're going to have some shares in a taxable account, definitely,
- 7:38but don't turn your nose up at a business, okay? Just quickly, if you're ready
- 7:41to take control of your finances but feel stuck on where to start, I
- 7:45have a solution. My book, Money Bias Happiness, simplifies
- 7:49investing and wealth building with practical steps to help you achieve financial
- 7:53peace. Get your copy via the link in the show notes and let's get your
- 7:56money working for you. Now, back to the episode. And the third one
- 7:59is, of course, and people have done it a lot, is of course a property investment. Yeah,
- 8:03particularly over the last, God, 20 and 30 years, we've had the greatest
- 8:06bull running property ever in Australia and many other Western
- 8:10markets, right? Because it produces cash flow. So
- 8:14long as you don't form the trap of accumulating so
- 8:18many of them that you're not carrying any equity, you're
- 8:21carrying just debt. So when you turn 55, you're like, oh, I've got 10 properties, but
- 8:25you're not producing any cash flow because all the money's going to debt repayment. And you've got maybe, I
- 8:28don't know, 25% of that is equity. Then you've got to sell them
- 8:31all. but do it within reason. The ones that I've seen
- 8:34that effectively over time paid off a mortgage because they bought in
- 8:38the 80s and 90s when it was three times annual income, they stayed
- 8:41in it. They then used some equity and paid off a property at
- 8:44a time. But they did it in a way that generated free
- 8:48cash flow. And I think if you look at property investing of
- 8:51yonder year, it was better when it was free cash flow. And Sharon Lecter, who's the
- 8:55co-author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad, the greatest personal
- 8:58finance book in history, Her and Robert Kiyosaki wrote that
- 9:01book in the early 90s, and she came on the podcast. I go back
- 9:05and listen to the show with myself and Sharon, and she told me that Robert
- 9:08Kiyosaki built the cash flow board game because he found out a way in
- 9:11the late 80s, early 90s to buy enough property to generate
- 9:15100 grand a year in free cash flow and income. That's why he built the game cash
- 9:18flow. That's why it's heavily into property. They
- 9:22wrote the book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, as a brochure to sell the
- 9:25board game, if you didn't know. And what's interesting about
- 9:29that is that worked back then because you could enter very, very
- 9:33cash flowing property, but you can't do that
- 9:36now. You can do it in some respects, but not as easy because it's
- 9:39like three times more expensive against incomes. So this
- 9:43type of strategy must change. And that's why, you know, it's probably more
- 9:46astute to go business and shares than it is property. because
- 9:50it is cumbersome on capital to acquire property right now.
- 9:53So I think of these three options, the first two are the most effective to
- 9:57retire at 55. Here's the reality. People
- 10:03want to retire at 55, and they have this vision in their mind
- 10:07that, oh, I can see myself at 55, I'm sitting on a beach. I'm at
- 10:10a beach somewhere. Fine. Not working, because you don't want to
- 10:13really be in that shitty job you don't like. You don't want to be there. I totally get
- 10:17that. So you have this vision, I want to retire. But
- 10:20here's what happens. They haven't done any of the groundwork. educate
- 10:25themselves in shares. They haven't put
- 10:29money away. They haven't even started a business. They have no courage to
- 10:32start a business. They haven't bothered to delve into it. They don't like work. There's
- 10:36just been no groundwork for that. So
- 10:39it's where the expectations are here, but the reality of
- 10:42what you're doing to meet that expectation is down here. So there's this huge
- 10:46gap. And I really do think people are moving towards a mirage.
- 10:50It's just not real. You can say that all
- 10:53you want to retire at 55, but the truth of the matter is, you're taking no
- 10:56steps to get there. So it's just like
- 11:00a mental masturbation. It's a fantasy. And
- 11:06I see it a lot. There's so many people who are coming into
- 11:09this age, their super's not going to save them, and they're just like, oh,
- 11:13now can I retire? You know, the
- 11:17numbers are to retire, I would say comfortably and do things
- 11:20you want to do. You probably want to be making at least 150K a year income,
- 11:25but let's call it 200 because inflation. So say 200, really
- 11:28to have a really good one, right? Now, again, you may argue against that, but if
- 11:32it's 200 divided by 0.05, it's $10 million at
- 11:35a 5% dividend rate or interest rate
- 11:39on that to give you passive income that doesn't affect the capital. $10,000,000. Do
- 11:45you have $10,000,000? Do you have half a million? Do
- 11:49you have a million? There's a disconnect. There's a disconnect. And
- 11:54you might be thinking, flip neck Lloyd, like I'm watching this and I'm 50 and you're telling me
- 11:57I can retire at 55. And yes, I can see the disconnect now. Thank you very much. Like
- 12:00that sucks. What do I do? Here's the answer. Here's
- 12:04the answer. Forget about retiring. Retirement
- 12:10is this narrative that banks create to sell mortgages and
- 12:13old people's homes. It's
- 12:18almost like a senior rite of passage to retire. I don't know
- 12:23if it's a good thing. And I think when people say they want to retire, what
- 12:27they're really saying is, I don't like my job. I don't like the people I
- 12:30work with. I don't like the commute. So
- 12:34they're running away from the pain. I get that. But that doesn't mean
- 12:37you've got to retire because I have also seen people do that,
- 12:40leave those things with enough money, by the way, to do it, and
- 12:44then die a few years later because they have no purpose. They have no structure.
- 12:47What's interesting about this too, my mom's retired. She has a house paid off. She
- 12:51has about 1.5 mil shares. She does
- 12:54okay. It's
- 12:57the type of retirement you want to create for yourself, okay? So,
- 13:01I would say the gauge rod between someone who just wants to retire and
- 13:04never work would be the minimum would be house paid
- 13:08off and one to two million dollars in a portfolio that produces passive
- 13:11income and keep your costs low, right? So, it's not
- 13:14like European cruises every five minutes. That's a real scenario. That
- 13:19is achievable for most people if you lay the groundwork. But if you're kind
- 13:22of aging, you have not laid the groundwork, then
- 13:26I think this part is really important for you to understand. If you can delete
- 13:30that word retirement from your vocabulary, I think you'll just live a
- 13:33better life because you'll go, okay, well, if I can't retire, what
- 13:37can I do for the next 20 years of my life where I will work, but
- 13:40I can do it in a way to work in an area I want to work with, work with people I
- 13:44admire and want to work with, and in a way that doesn't burn me out in my health.
- 13:49Generally speaking, you'll find a business that enables you to do that because not all
- 13:52businesses are about doing 60-hour weeks. Some businesses
- 13:56can just let you find rhythm and work with yourself. You
- 14:01can, but you're not going to do it if you've got this notion in your head you
- 14:04must retire at 55 or 65. You're better off to say, if
- 14:08I was not going to retire today, What would I have to do to be able to work
- 14:11for the next 20 years with some joy? And that's a better question
- 14:15to ask and a better conversation. And while you're doing that, one
- 14:18of the other things that will happen to you is you may meet, if you're someone who's single, you may meet
- 14:22a partner who can join that mission. And all of a sudden, you know, two forces
- 14:26are greater than one and you can come together, right? But I
- 14:30think you're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't laid the groundwork for
- 14:33retiring at 55 or 60, right? Expecting to
- 14:37and then putting in your own mind that you must. That's
- 14:41just, it's just going to wreck you mentally. So I
- 14:44would say cancel the word retirement from your vocab and
- 14:48find a way you can continue to work and build wealth sensibly over
- 14:52time to do that. And by the time you get to
- 14:5675, then you will probably be in a position where you can. And so I would say don't
- 15:00delay. Start doing what you do now if you had to work for the rest
- 15:03of your life. You won't want to retire. I don't think my
- 15:06dad will ever retire. I don't think I'll retire. And
- 15:09do what? What am I gonna do? Go
- 15:13on a cruise for two weeks, sit on the beaches, you'll find that's not the answer either, right? So,
- 15:18each to one's own, but I hope you understand now that there's
- 15:21a foundation must be laid for 55, and then the options on the table,
- 15:25and there must be then a solution created in your mind as to what
- 15:28you're going to do if you haven't laid the foundations. Both work. You
- 15:31choose which one you're going to adopt. And I'd love to know in the comments, what did you take away the
- 15:34most from this episode? hit the subscribe button, send this to a friend
- 15:38or someone who needs to hear it. There are two options to go with here. You choose
- 15:41yours, but we have to cast them in reality. And
- 15:45that's what I'm all about, is the reality of financial education and realness
- 15:48when it comes to numbers and what's going to be real and achievable for you. See you
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