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Speaker 1: We're going to have the top five biggest disappointments in
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Speaker 1: college football coming up. Chad, we're also going to have
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Speaker 1: later this week, we're going to rank the chaos of
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Speaker 1: the SEC. And who's ahead of which SEC program right
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Speaker 1: now in team, which is going to be difficult. The
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Speaker 1: committee is going to have a crazy year sorting out
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Speaker 1: the 12 that are getting into the playoff, the final
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Speaker 1: year of the 12. But we're headed for a– it's
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Speaker 1: going to be a lot of teams. How many? Nine
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Speaker 1: and three? Right now we could have nine, nine and
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Speaker 1: three teams in the quest that the SEC wants here?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that the SEC necessarily wants this,
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Speaker 2: but this is a possibility. This is from Brad Crawford
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Speaker 2: of 24-7 Sports. He's calling it the SEC chaos quest
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Speaker 2: for nine 9-3 teams. There are 36 remaining outcomes needing
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Speaker 2: for this to happen, or sorry, 36 outcomes to happen
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Speaker 2: at midseason for it to hit. Over the weekend, the
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Speaker 2: league went 5-5. So at the midseason mark, 36 needed
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Speaker 2: to hit. 5-5 this weekend, 31 outcomes remain where there
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Speaker 2: could be nine 9-3 teams in the SEC that And
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Speaker 2: having not just to sort through that for the playoff,
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Speaker 2: but who is in the SEC championship, you know, if
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Speaker 2: there's a log jam at the top to that level.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I really do believe now before it was, okay,
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Speaker 2: you have three losses, you're out of playoff consideration.
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Speaker 1: Now you're in.
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Speaker 2: That's not the case. You're still very much in the
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Speaker 2: hunt with three losses. Four losses is the mark now.
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Speaker 2: That's why South Carolina-Oklahoma is an elimination game for the
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Speaker 2: playoff this weekend. South Carolina at Oklahoma both have three losses.
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Speaker 2: Whoever loses that game is out. You're just looking now
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Speaker 2: for teams to knock themselves out of playoff contention with
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Speaker 2: a fourth loss. Arkansas out. Vandy out. Oklahoma or South
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Speaker 2: Carolina will be out this weekend. I think A &
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Speaker 2: M has four losses, too.
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Speaker 1: Did you say state?
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Speaker 2: Mississippi State, I think, has four losses, right?
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Speaker 1: I think so.
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Speaker 2: Texas A & M.
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Speaker 1: A & M.
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Speaker 2: A & M has four losses. So those teams are out.
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Speaker 2: Ranking these teams right here is a difficult task when
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Speaker 2: you look at Kentucky at 7-1. I mean, Kentucky has
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Speaker 2: earned the right to be the best in that group
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Speaker 2: right now. Do I think they're the best of those teams?
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Speaker 2: I don't. I do not. I would take Tennessee. I
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Speaker 2: would take Alabama, who we saw destroy Kentucky on the road.
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Speaker 2: I would take Texas. I would take Ole Miss. Probably
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Speaker 2: ahead of Kentucky right now. I would not take Florida.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I would take Missouri. I'd take LSU.
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Speaker 2: If I'm picking a head-to-head late in the year, even
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Speaker 2: though LSU lost a close one at Kentucky, I think
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Speaker 2: LSU's going to end up being the better team.
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Speaker 1: But here's the crazy part about everything. Right now, if
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Speaker 1: you had Kentucky for the SEC to win... you'd be
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Speaker 1: offered a buyout. You'd be offered a cash out right
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Speaker 1: now at Hard Rock bet. At this point in the season,
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Speaker 1: they would be offering you to cash out right now,
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Speaker 1: which is nuts. And same thing for the, I know
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Speaker 1: 31 results remain, but you could also cash out on
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Speaker 1: that probably based on the fact that you went five
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Speaker 1: for five this past weekend, if that was a huge
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Speaker 1: parlay moment. This is exactly, I mean, we compare the
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Speaker 1: SEC and we compare the power to to the NFL.
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Speaker 1: You know, the NFL is built. They want, they want
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Speaker 1: eight and eight, you know, they, they want 500, which
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Speaker 1: you can't finish 500 now, but they, they want that parody.
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Speaker 1: And this is what we have now within college football,
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Speaker 1: but really we've got that within the SEC. We don't
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Speaker 1: have it yet within the big 10, but we, we
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Speaker 1: can certainly be headed there based on some results that
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Speaker 1: we're watching right now across that conference.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Really funny SEC short this week, where is a parody,
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Speaker 2: an SEC horror story. And it was a Halloween-themed thing
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Speaker 2: where a parody comes knocking for everyone. Once you think
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Speaker 2: you've got it good, someone's going to come in and
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Speaker 2: knock you off. It's a new world of what to
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Speaker 2: expect from week to week. And look, I think ultimately
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Speaker 2: this is going to be a very healthy thing for
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Speaker 2: the sport. It's going to take a big adjustment for
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Speaker 2: fans to figure out how this thing works now. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: overall I think it makes things more exciting for The
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Speaker 2: games on Saturday have never been better. When you talk
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Speaker 2: about the wild swings of emotion, I've always thought if
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Speaker 2: you could, what college football does, and it's my favorite sport,
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Speaker 2: but when you mix the environment and the emotion of
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Speaker 2: that sport, if you could combine that with the close
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Speaker 2: games we see across the NFL most weeks, and truly
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Speaker 2: you don't know what's going to happen, the unpredictable nature
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Speaker 2: of the NFL, you're starting to blend those two now
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Speaker 2: which to me makes college football a way better product
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Speaker 2: than the NFL if they can get more of that
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Speaker 2: parity in it. We're seeing that now in the SEC,
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Speaker 2: but we're still going to have the bottom of these
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Speaker 2: conferences that are not going to be competitive in certain years.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing the Big Ten right now. There's going to
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Speaker 2: be a lot of that too.
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Speaker 1: You're still going to have, in the NFL, if you
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Speaker 1: just look at the lines week to week, everything's below
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Speaker 1: double digits. Everything's really within seven and a half, a
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Speaker 1: one possession Vegas line, a Vegas spread. For the most part.
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Speaker 1: But you still have the double-digit teams in the weekends
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. We still have the very high spreads
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Speaker 1: in the SEC and the Big Ten. If we start
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Speaker 1: to see those drop from Vegas, and we are, that's
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Speaker 1: when you see the real parity of everything. Because Vegas knows, Chad.
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Speaker 1: They always know.
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Speaker 2: But I'll also say there's been some 20-point– You know,
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Speaker 2: Auburn won as a 20-point underdog.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, 20 and a half. At Georgia, I think. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: So we've seen like 20-plus points. But I'll also say,
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Speaker 2: Vandy's in dead last in the SEC. They were on
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Speaker 2: the road at first place Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: 11 and a half.
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Speaker 2: I get that it's Kentucky and they've way– And it dropped.
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Speaker 2: They've way swung above their weight class this year in
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Speaker 2: terms of expectations. So it's not like they're playing Georgia,
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Speaker 2: who is expected to be there, or an LSU. Right.
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Speaker 2: 11 and a half point line. That's last place on
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Speaker 2: the road at first place. In the SEC. That's a
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Speaker 2: substantial line, but that's not gigantic for a game like that.
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Speaker 2: Kentucky ends up winning by 17, kind of late in
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Speaker 2: the game. They pull away, right? That's better for the
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Speaker 2: conference is what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Tennessee, one loss on the road at South Carolina. They're
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Speaker 1: the underdog after beating Bama.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: And then South Carolina wins. How do you feel right now?
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Speaker 1: Way too predictable. How do you feel right now, though,
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Speaker 1: about the Kentucky matchup? Both teams coming off a bye.
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Speaker 1: Just a gut feeling today.
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Speaker 2: Tennessee's going to kill them. That's my gut feeling.
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Speaker 1: I think the same thing.
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Speaker 2: By the way, did they just invent a start time
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Speaker 2: for a 5-15 Central kickoff?
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Speaker 1: 6-15 Eastern?
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Speaker 2: I've never heard of.
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Speaker 1: An SEC game starting at that time. Yeah, the TV
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Speaker 1: times have changed a little bit. It's not 6-05, it's 6-13.
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Speaker 1: Here it is. The 6-15 kickoff. instead of the 7-15 Eastern.
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Speaker 1: But they get their night game finally on ESPN.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, gut reaction right now, we'll see. Look, Deshaun
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Speaker 2: Bishop had to leave the game with an injury. I
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Speaker 2: think he's okay. But is he going to be all
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Speaker 2: right for that game? There's a lot to be determined
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Speaker 2: in the next week and a half before we get
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Speaker 2: to the actual kickoff of that game. But if you're
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Speaker 2: asking my initial reaction, I think Kentucky's due for a fall.
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Speaker 2: And I think Tennessee's going to come home incredibly pissed
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Speaker 2: off because they pissed away a chance at a big
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Speaker 2: road win, and they're going to be angry, and it's
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Speaker 2: going to be the dark mode game, and that Neyland
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Speaker 2: Stadium crowd is going to be very loud. And I
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Speaker 2: think suddenly Kentucky might have a few penalties, procedural penalties
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Speaker 2: in that game, and Tennessee's defense is going to pin
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Speaker 2: their ears back. And I think Tennessee wins by three
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Speaker 2: scores plus over Kentucky in that game. But, you know,
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Speaker 2: check back next Friday, and I'll see if I feel
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Speaker 2: the same way. But that's my initial reaction right now.
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Speaker 2: But that is the conference, too, the seesaw nature.
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Speaker 1: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Back and forth of games and what's going to happen.
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Speaker 2: We're going to set the power line up later. There
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Speaker 2: are some bigger point spreads this week. It's why it's
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Speaker 2: a bad week in the SEC. You've also got multiple
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Speaker 2: teams on their bye. But one of the big lines
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Speaker 2: is because Kamario Taylor's hurt for Mississippi State and Texas.
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Speaker 2: It's a three-touchdown line, but that's because Mississippi State is
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Speaker 2: so bad with the backup quarterback that's in the game.
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Speaker 2: They were a good team. With Kamario Taylor putting up
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Speaker 2: a lot of points, had a chance to be one
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Speaker 2: of the surprises in the SEC this year.
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Speaker 1: Yes. So we've got that, Chad, the top five disappointments
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Speaker 1: in college football. Where are we starting?
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Speaker 2: Let's go one to five when we're doing this one.
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Speaker 2: Instead of counting it down, let's count it up one
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Speaker 2: to five. Number one is Oregon. Oregon was preseason number
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Speaker 2: three in college football. Word got out today, Dan Lanning said,
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Speaker 2: Dante Moore's not going to play the rest of the year.
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Speaker 2: A little bit odd in that it sounds like, you know,
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Speaker 2: we can control things in practice, but if we put
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Speaker 2: them in games, we can't control the games of what
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Speaker 2: happens to them in the game. So it sounds like
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Speaker 2: a business decision.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 2: Shut it down and get ready for the draft. Boy,
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Speaker 2: this quarterback class, fascinating. In this upcoming draft, Dante Moore's
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Speaker 2: barely played, you know, at this point. Didn't play this
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Speaker 2: year either. Like, how do you rate him if you're
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Speaker 2: a team– I think that's going to be a wild one.
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Speaker 2: Arch Manning also that we're going to get to a
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Speaker 2: little bit later. But number one is Oregon as the
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Speaker 2: biggest disappointment based on where they were preseason.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Chad, it's even the way they started the season
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Speaker 1: with close– they won. But we're looking at their record,
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Speaker 1: and the record's crazy right now. But it could have
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Speaker 1: been a lot worse with the way they started. They
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Speaker 1: were barely winning to start the season. They barely beat
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Speaker 1: Boise State. Right.
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Speaker 2: Then they went on the road and lost to Drew
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Speaker 2: Mestemaker at Oklahoma State. Yep. And then, I mean, they
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Speaker 2: should have lost to Nebraska. You know, there's some games
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Speaker 2: they pulled out in the end that they were behind. Now,
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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of a wash because there's
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Speaker 2: a gigantic drop-off. I mean, Tennessee's playing their backup quarterback
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Speaker 2: right now, too, but it's very similar between the two
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in terms of their ability and where they are.
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Speaker 2: And neither one of them have experience. The drop-off from
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Speaker 2: Dante Moore– to Dylan Raiola, and then the third string
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Speaker 2: guy is immense for Oregon. So it's going to be
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Speaker 2: a rough road for them even the rest of the
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Speaker 2: way with a backup quarterback.
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Speaker 1: And they started slow last year too. That's now a
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Speaker 1: trend to watch for with the program.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the SEC for number two and three.
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Speaker 2: I mean, A & M is a huge shock to me.
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Speaker 2: We talked to Billy Lucci in Tampa and met a
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Speaker 2: lot of the people for Texags that cover A & M.
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Speaker 2: They were optimistic about the season. We were high on
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Speaker 2: A & M. We thought they figured it out with
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Speaker 2: Mike Yelko defensively a year ago, getting that team to
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Speaker 2: the college football playoff. Marcel Reed is back. You think
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Speaker 2: he's going to take another step. He's getting paid a
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Speaker 2: lot in NIL also. Offensive line should be good. I'm
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Speaker 2: surprised that A & M' s offense has been this bad
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Speaker 2: this year.
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Speaker 1: And I'm surprised on the quarterback. I really am. Because
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Speaker 1: he arrives there and he's one read, no pun intended,
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Speaker 1: one read and take off running. And then they add
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Speaker 1: the passing game to his skill set. And he's starting
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Speaker 1: to really build his game. And then it's been a drop-off.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting the drop-off. I was expecting the next
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Speaker 1: level for him. Not Heisman level, but a level where
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Speaker 1: it's a household name for a college football fan. And
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Speaker 1: we have not seen that. We should see A &
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Speaker 1: M on some marquee matchups in primetime. And we haven't
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Speaker 1: seen that. Yes, it's a huge disappointment. I think this
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Speaker 1: is fitting that it's number two on the list.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been really bad and shocking. You know what's
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Speaker 2: not disappointing? Nashville born-and-bred quarterbacks in the SEC.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how about that? Jared Curtis, Marcel Reed, Kenny
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Speaker 2: Minchey at Kentucky, and now George McIntyre at Tennessee. Four
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Speaker 2: of the 16 teams have a starting quarterback. From the
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Speaker 2: city of Nashville, where they played their high school football.
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Speaker 2: Pretty cool. Nashville's become a nice spot. Speaking of Nashville quarterbacks,
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Speaker 2: Bo Bryan, Luke Bryan's son, commits to Georgia.
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Speaker 1: Georgia. Yesterday. No surprise.
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Speaker 2: His first big offer. I wonder why Georgia was the
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Speaker 2: first one to offer. It could be something to do
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Speaker 2: with the NIL contributions of one Luke Bryan, his father.
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Speaker 1: Is it Vanderbilt's next quarterback then? Well, he's going to go.
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Speaker 2: There and not play. He's like a three-star guy who's
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Speaker 2: being offered by OVC schools.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, are they going to flip him now because
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Speaker 1: he's a Georgia commit?
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, that's a good point. Maybe he's next
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Speaker 2: on the list. Luke Bryan's such a big Georgia fan, though.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: No, I agree.
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Speaker 2: Pretty good life for Bo, too. He's got a great
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Speaker 2: high school team and gets to go be a backup
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Speaker 2: quarterback at Georgia. His dad's going to give a boatload
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Speaker 2: of money in NIL, and it's going to be a
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Speaker 2: nice life.
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Speaker 1: We're about to see him every weekend on TV with
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Speaker 1: Luke Bryan standing on the sideline. There are worse people
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Speaker 1: to be in this world than Bo Bryan. High school
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Speaker 1: quarterback that gets to go be a backup at the
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Speaker 1: University of Georgia in Athens in that surrounding with Luke
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Speaker 1: Bryan as your father.
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Speaker 2: There are worse situations to be in.
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Speaker 1: He's the Athens prince.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Number three, Oklahoma. John Mateer. I knew when
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Speaker 2: I saw that offseason video of him all yoked up
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Speaker 2: and how gigantic he had gotten that something was off here.
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Speaker 2: You don't want a quarterback that is that big and chiseled.
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Speaker 2: Will Levis, another example. Tim Tebow, NFL team Tim Tebow
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Speaker 2: at times. You just don't see guys with that physique
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Speaker 2: being great NFL quarterbacks very often. John Mateer got too big.
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Speaker 2: He got too big, and now Oklahoma's offense is bad.
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Speaker 2: He's been bad. Big disappointment for a team that I
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Speaker 2: think was preseason eighth in the AP. They were right
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Speaker 2: around the top ten for Oklahoma last and now they're
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Speaker 2: playing an elimination game against South Carolina this week for
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Speaker 2: both teams with three losses on the season.
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Speaker 1: The perception of Oklahoma offense, too, is not there. Following
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Speaker 1: the coach, he's got the coach with him, and we've
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Speaker 1: seen it, Chad, of course with Pavia, but even with Mestemaker.
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Speaker 1: There are examples of the coaching staff following the player,
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Speaker 1: and it clicks immediately. I don't know why it just
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Speaker 1: never clicked. Maybe it's because he's so yoked. But beyond that,
18:07
Speaker 1: the offense is just stagnant. It's weird to see Oklahoma
18:14
Speaker 1: not be able to move the football. And they've done
18:18
Speaker 1: it recently a little bit. But it's not the improvement
18:22
Speaker 1: that I thought we were going to see there. I
18:24
Speaker 1: would have them by top five, but I think I
18:26
Speaker 1: would have some other programs ahead of Oklahoma based on
18:30
Speaker 1: where I thought some teams would be.
18:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, honestly, A & M and Oklahoma,
18:35
Speaker 2: I could flip-flop the two and make an argument either way.
18:39
Speaker 2: Oklahoma could be two. A & M could be three.
18:41
Speaker 2: I think number four on my list, you could argue,
18:44
Speaker 2: is higher also. But Michigan was– They were preseason 18th
18:50
Speaker 2: in the AP poll, okay? So they should be three
18:53
Speaker 2: and four. I mean, they lost that game to Western Michigan.
18:56
Speaker 2: Let's be real about it. They got handed a game
18:59
Speaker 2: by an officiating error on the clock in that Western
19:02
Speaker 2: Michigan game. They're one and three in the Big Ten
19:04
Speaker 2: right now. The offense is terrible.
19:06
Speaker 1: Terrible.
19:07
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood is the biggest disappointment in recent memory as
19:12
Speaker 2: a five-star, no-doubt quarterback coming into college. with what Dave
19:16
Speaker 2: Portnoy and Michigan Boosters paid him to be there. He's
19:20
Speaker 2: now been benched for a guy who's not very good
19:23
Speaker 2: as a freshman in Tommy Carr. That offense is terrible
19:27
Speaker 2: to watch. Michigan, really, really bad. Michigan should be 3-4.
19:31
Speaker 2: They're 4-3. They go to Rutgers this week, so they're
19:33
Speaker 2: going to win. They're a 14-point favorite on the road
19:37
Speaker 2: at Rutgers. But Hutton, Michigan's been a gigantic disappointment.
19:40
Speaker 1: Well, think about the players who were there for a
19:42
Speaker 1: different head coach, and he's not there. what's the staff
19:49
Speaker 1: like this year? is another question I have for Michigan.
19:53
Speaker 2: He took a lot of his guys from Utah. I
19:55
Speaker 2: know one of his assistants stayed to be the head
19:56
Speaker 2: coach of Utah, but I think he took some guys
19:58
Speaker 2: with him. Kyle Whittingham did. I think we underrated the
20:05
Speaker 2: culture change that needed to happen in Michigan.
20:07
Speaker 1: But it happened so late. It was such a quick flip-flop,
20:13
Speaker 1: and it happened late in the game compared to the
20:16
Speaker 1: portal and everything else where you get your guys. It's
20:20
Speaker 1: a mismatch, I think, from exactly what you're saying, just
20:25
Speaker 1: the culture of the program. They're flipping it. They're trying
20:30
Speaker 1: to get it back on track. Not everybody on that team,
20:33
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is awful, but it's clear that some of
20:37
Speaker 1: the players just aren't in sync look at the, the
20:41
Speaker 1: offense is just so stagnant. They can play some defense though.
20:45
Speaker 2: No doubt. And this, this is my prediction with this
20:48
Speaker 2: next year's Michigan team. This is not going to be a, okay,
20:51
Speaker 2: guys got a year in the system. They're going to
20:53
Speaker 2: come back. They're going to be more bought into Kyle
20:54
Speaker 2: Whittingham and what he's doing. This is going to be
20:57
Speaker 2: a complete overhaul of the roster. There's going to be
20:59
Speaker 2: a lot of guys leaving after one year with Kyle Whittingham.
21:02
Speaker 2: And he's going to bring a lot of dudes in
21:04
Speaker 2: that he feels like fits his mantra, his mentality, his,
21:08
Speaker 2: what they want to do offensively way more. There's going
21:11
Speaker 2: to be an almost entirely new roster at Michigan next
21:14
Speaker 2: year that Kyle Whittingham believes will fit what he's doing more.
21:18
Speaker 2: And you can do that now in college football. You
21:20
Speaker 2: can have a massive overhaul at key positions from year
21:24
Speaker 2: to year with the transfer portal. And Michigan certainly has
21:26
Speaker 2: the funds to do it. And I think we're going
21:28
Speaker 2: to see a completely different Wolverines team next year.
21:31
Speaker 1: And with the defensive, there'll be a defensive team. and
21:34
Speaker 1: you have an offense that will be able to actually
21:37
Speaker 1: score in the red zone and move it better. I mean,
21:40
Speaker 1: they're holding opponents to what? It's like under 17 points
21:43
Speaker 1: or something. It's crazy. But in some ways, they're like
21:48
Speaker 1: the Titans. They can't score, but the defense is able
21:53
Speaker 1: to get enough stops. It's bend but don't break, and
21:56
Speaker 1: they break too often. It just feels like a waste
21:58
Speaker 1: of a great defense. It's going to be one of
22:00
Speaker 1: those years where you just wasted a great defense. If
22:03
Speaker 1: you're Michigan. But not a great quarterback. They didn't waste that.
22:07
Speaker 1: That's also the biggest disappointment, I think, based on perception
22:10
Speaker 1: and what we saw.
22:12
Speaker 2: When we get to January and we start looking at
22:16
Speaker 2: quarterback movement, look at the schools that could be in
22:20
Speaker 2: the QB market and the money they can spend. Michigan
22:23
Speaker 2: being one of them. Indiana. Indiana. Possibly Ohio State.
22:28
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt.
22:28
Speaker 2: Miami again. I would think Jared Curtis is going to
22:33
Speaker 2: stay at Vanderbilt, but I don't know.
22:35
Speaker 1: I would think every team that is out there has
22:39
Speaker 1: been knocking on his door.
22:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just a lot. LSU. There's a lot of
22:43
Speaker 2: big-time programs that are going to be looking to bring
22:45
Speaker 2: in a transfer quarterback. The bidding wars for those top
22:48
Speaker 2: guys that enter the portal are going to be wild
22:51
Speaker 2: to see the musical chairs. It's going to happen. Yes.
22:54
Speaker 2: Number five, it's not Texas. It's specifically, I'm going with
22:58
Speaker 2: Arch Manning, Steve Sarkeesian as a combo. It hasn't worked.
23:04
Speaker 2: It worked better against Ole Miss. They had to hang
23:06
Speaker 2: on after building a big lead in that game. And they,
23:09
Speaker 2: by the way, hung on again after allowing another onside kick,
23:13
Speaker 2: much like they did against Tennessee, to be converted that
23:16
Speaker 2: their special teams gave up. I would start to look
23:18
Speaker 2: into that if I'm the special teams coach for Texas
23:20
Speaker 2: to allow that. But For whatever reason, I thought it
23:24
Speaker 2: would be a lot better, much like Marcel Reed in
23:26
Speaker 2: Texas A & M. I thought this year would be
23:28
Speaker 2: the year that everything clicked in for Arch, for Sark,
23:32
Speaker 2: for that offense with Ryan Wingo, with Cam Coleman. They
23:36
Speaker 2: bring in Hollywood Smothers. They bring in Brown, the running
23:40
Speaker 2: back from Arizona State. They're going to have a rushing attack.
23:42
Speaker 2: They've got a good offensive line. They've got these dynamic
23:46
Speaker 2: guys out wide at receiver. Everything's going to click into place,
23:50
Speaker 2: and That offense has been a huge disappointment for Texas
23:53
Speaker 2: so far. The team hasn't been a giant disappointment. They're
23:55
Speaker 2: still in the mix with two losses. They've won big games.
23:58
Speaker 2: They beat Ohio State. They won at Tennessee. They just
24:01
Speaker 2: beat Ole Miss at home. It's a brutal schedule for
24:04
Speaker 2: the Longhorns, but they've done well to only have lost
24:07
Speaker 2: two games. But that offense, Hutt, has been a big disappointment.
24:11
Speaker 1: And they're really good in spurts during games, right? They
24:15
Speaker 1: can't put away teams, right? And their comeback ability is
24:20
Speaker 1: also crazy, crazy good from what we saw against Ohio State.
24:24
Speaker 1: But they're good for a quarter or good for a half,
24:27
Speaker 1: but they cannot put away games. And their speed in
24:31
Speaker 1: the secondary versus the speed of SEC offenses or Ohio
24:36
Speaker 1: State as well, that's also glaring to me. But Sarkeesian
24:40
Speaker 1: overall with Manning, I refuse to think that this is
24:45
Speaker 1: the ceiling for Arch Manning. There's more there. There's got
24:50
Speaker 1: to be. This is his floor. I think you agree
24:57
Speaker 1: with me there. I don't think he's the giant issue.
25:00
Speaker 1: I don't think the development has happened from a coach
25:02
Speaker 1: that is known for doing that.
25:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've said it. I think he'd be better off
25:07
Speaker 2: spending one year at another college and getting into a
25:10
Speaker 2: different system and just getting into a different environment and
25:13
Speaker 2: letting it rip somewhere else for one year. I don't
25:15
Speaker 2: know where that place would be, But I think that
25:19
Speaker 2: would be a good move for Arch. He needs to
25:20
Speaker 2: hire David Cutcliffe as his personal quarterback coach. I'm sure
25:24
Speaker 2: he'd help him whenever he wanted to.
25:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
25:26
Speaker 2: Probably just now. I wouldn't even have to hire him.
25:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would stick, but I would get my coaching,
25:34
Speaker 1: get my development from the Manning choice. Maybe the Manning
25:39
Speaker 1: choice is Sark, but that's not the path. Also, now
25:43
Speaker 1: in the portal, I don't see guys really improving at all. Again,
25:48
Speaker 1: I see big performances, but I don't think they're really
25:51
Speaker 1: developing these guys because they don't have them long enough.
25:54
Speaker 1: Spring practice going into fall camp isn't enough for me.
25:59
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be for a quarterback either.
26:00
Speaker 2: No.
26:02
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26:10
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26:19
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Speaker 1: Great question coming up here, and we have a poll
27:39
Speaker 1: in our YouTube chat where you can vote on this
27:43
Speaker 1: on social media. Is anyone watching the World Series? Chad,
27:48
Speaker 1: last night I went and grabbed some food, and I
27:52
Speaker 1: saw the game on TV. I had no idea they
27:55
Speaker 1: were playing last night.
27:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. So Game 1, and I've looked up
28:00
Speaker 2: these numbers. Front Office Sports had this. 12.2 million average viewers.
28:05
Speaker 2: That was on Friday night for Game 1 of the
28:07
Speaker 2: World Series. That's actually not far off from Dodgers-Blue Jays
28:11
Speaker 2: a year ago, which was 13.3. The numbers are surprisingly
28:16
Speaker 2: better than I expected. They're not great, but given non-Dodgers
28:21
Speaker 2: World Series recently, they're pretty on par with what they've
28:25
Speaker 2: been in the past. Here's the number, though, that jumped
28:27
Speaker 2: out to me. In the city of Milwaukee, which is
28:30
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball's smallest media market, keep in mind the
28:33
Speaker 2: Brewers are the oldest, longest-running franchise to never win a
28:37
Speaker 2: World Series. So they're one game away from history for
28:40
Speaker 2: that organization. In the city of Milwaukee, they're pulling a
28:43
Speaker 2: 70 share. 70% of televisions are watching the World Series
28:48
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee, which is unheard of in terms of local
28:52
Speaker 2: market support. So kudos to the Wisconsinites. And the city
28:57
Speaker 2: of Milwaukee, who's really helping that overall number with a
29:00
Speaker 2: 70 share in that market. I'm just, I am not
29:04
Speaker 2: enthused about the World Series this year. There are some
29:07
Speaker 2: years where I'm really into it. I saw it on
29:09
Speaker 2: last night. By the time I turned it on, it
29:11
Speaker 2: was 10-0 Brewers. I know the first two games were
29:13
Speaker 2: one-run games that the Brewers won. But I had to
29:17
Speaker 2: ask this question, and we put the poll question, as
29:19
Speaker 2: you mentioned, in our YouTube chat right now. Who's into
29:23
Speaker 2: this series right now? Because normally a story like this,
29:27
Speaker 2: the team has never won, a city who's never won it,
29:29
Speaker 2: I'd be all for the Brewers watching every game. Of course,
29:32
Speaker 2: JT is a big Cubs fan. So he's seen this before,
29:35
Speaker 2: but I think 2016, uh, was when they broke through and, and, and,
29:39
Speaker 2: and broke the curse. Um, but I I've just, I've
29:42
Speaker 2: got very little interest. JT, have you been watching the
29:44
Speaker 2: world series at all?
29:46
Speaker 3: No, I mean, as a Cubs fan, and it's interesting too,
29:50
Speaker 3: to see if you're, you know, a Tennessee fan, would
29:52
Speaker 3: you root for Alabama? But as a Cubs fan of
29:55
Speaker 3: the central, I like Milwaukee. Um, I think they've been
29:58
Speaker 3: a great team all year, but there's just no star power. Like,
30:01
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like with you guys. I looked at
30:02
Speaker 3: the score last night, but I looked at the score
30:04
Speaker 3: on my phone, on the score app.
30:07
Speaker 2: I didn't turn on the TV.
30:08
Speaker 3: There's just nobody even for– and listen, I get tired
30:12
Speaker 3: of watching the Dodgers, right, because that's not fun. But
30:15
Speaker 3: there's just not anybody that just pops for me, and
30:18
Speaker 3: it's just kind of– I mean, I like the close
30:20
Speaker 3: games to start, but last night a blowout. But I
30:23
Speaker 3: have not physically had the TV on. for one second
30:27
Speaker 3: of this World Series.
30:28
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, why are they scheduling this against
30:31
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football? I think there's a very obvious way
30:35
Speaker 2: to avoid those games, right? We're going to get into
30:38
Speaker 2: the WNBA scheduling dilemma with their WNBA finals tomorrow on
30:42
Speaker 2: the show, but I don't know why you would ever
30:44
Speaker 2: go head-to-head with football. I just think that football, it's
30:48
Speaker 2: not just that it's on. It just occupies our minds
30:51
Speaker 2: so much in the fall. Because it's the shortest season
30:54
Speaker 2: that you anticipate the most. It has the best ratings
30:58
Speaker 2: once you get to it. And it's hard to conceptualize
31:02
Speaker 2: a lot of other things going on. The start of
31:04
Speaker 2: the NBA season falls to the wayside. The World Series
31:07
Speaker 2: falls to the wayside. The start of college basketball. And
31:10
Speaker 2: don't get me started. Now that all of December, especially
31:12
Speaker 2: next year, is going to be that 2014 playoff. I mean,
31:15
Speaker 2: you can push college basketball even further back because you
31:18
Speaker 2: had about a three week window where there wasn't much
31:20
Speaker 2: college football on. So if you're a college fan, you
31:22
Speaker 2: could pay a little bit of attention to December, November,
31:26
Speaker 2: December college basketball. Now it's going to be a complete
31:29
Speaker 2: afterthought until January, February moving forward. So I don't know.
31:34
Speaker 2: I'm just not overly enthused about this World Series this year.
31:38
Speaker 1: Well, and the other thing, too, is the ratings for
31:41
Speaker 1: last night. You get a 10-0, like you said, and
31:45
Speaker 1: they're competing against two 2-4 teams, but there's Dallas and Philly.
31:50
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32:56
Speaker 2: Clemson. You ready for this, Hudson?
32:58
Speaker 1: Okay.
32:59
Speaker 2: Is the lone team in college football this year that
33:03
Speaker 2: has scored fewer points than on offense and the combined
33:07
Speaker 2: total of its defense and special teams through seven games
33:12
Speaker 2: of this year. That's right. Wow. That circle is every
33:15
Speaker 2: team in college football. Outside of that circle is Clemson.
33:20
Speaker 2: The number is 78 to 72. So 78 combined points
33:24
Speaker 2: between their kicker kicking so many field goals and a
33:29
Speaker 2: punt return and fumble return for a touchdown. Wow. They've
33:32
Speaker 2: scored 12 offensive touchdowns all season. through seven games. Only
33:37
Speaker 2: two passing TDs all year so far for the Clemson offense.
33:42
Speaker 2: And this weekend, Dabo Sweeney took over play calling in
33:47
Speaker 2: the second half of their home loss to Virginia Tech.
33:50
Speaker 2: Chad Morris, though, he says, oh no, he's still employed.
33:52
Speaker 2: He's going to finish out the year. He's fine. We
33:54
Speaker 2: just all have to do a better job of coaching,
33:56
Speaker 2: starting with me. Coaching's not been good enough. We haven't
33:58
Speaker 2: put them in a spot to succeed on offense. I mean,
34:02
Speaker 2: he's taken ownership of it, but I'm a little bit surprised, too,
34:05
Speaker 2: that you can also with a straight face say, Chad
34:08
Speaker 2: Moore's a good coach. He's going to do fine the
34:10
Speaker 2: rest of the way. Yes, I had to replace him
34:12
Speaker 2: mid-game and take over play-calling responsibilities, but he's going to
34:16
Speaker 2: be fine.
34:17
Speaker 1: What do you think those coaches do whenever they lose
34:19
Speaker 1: the ability to call plays? Because they've already got the
34:22
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, right? Sometimes they are the quarterback coach as well.
34:26
Speaker 1: But when you lose that ability, you're not into it anymore.
34:29
Speaker 1: You know you're out at the end of the year.
34:32
Speaker 1: The team has a record that's not great. They're also
34:37
Speaker 1: entering the portal.
34:38
Speaker 2: I mean, can you imagine how emasculating of an experience
34:42
Speaker 2: that is?
34:43
Speaker 1: Great.
34:44
Speaker 2: To show up with your binders, you got your readers on,
34:48
Speaker 2: you're looking down, you're looking at the game, you're calling
34:50
Speaker 2: plays the whole time you're in it, calling play after play,
34:53
Speaker 2: and then to get buzzed up from the field and say, hey, man,
34:57
Speaker 2: you're good. I'm taking over. You just sit there. with
35:00
Speaker 2: your arms folded and watch and see what we're seeing.
35:04
Speaker 2: I don't know what the, are they talking to the
35:05
Speaker 2: head coach who's calling plays then? Are they talking to
35:07
Speaker 2: somebody else?
35:08
Speaker 1: How do you, right.
35:10
Speaker 2: Does every coach have a plan in place for like,
35:14
Speaker 2: even in not just being replaced, but like, There's a
35:16
Speaker 2: medical emergency or something happens with a play caller to
35:19
Speaker 2: where then somebody else steps in and does something. Do
35:22
Speaker 2: you have a plan in place that if I have
35:24
Speaker 2: to replace you because it's so bad as a play caller,
35:27
Speaker 2: here are your game day responsibilities as a non-play caller.
35:31
Speaker 2: You then assist the person who's doing it. I'd be
35:33
Speaker 2: fascinated to talk to a head coach if there's a
35:35
Speaker 2: plan in place going in for every team because they
35:38
Speaker 2: plan on everything. You know, in these programs, like, do
35:41
Speaker 2: you have a plan for when your play caller sucks
35:44
Speaker 2: so bad that you have to replace them mid-game? Because
35:47
Speaker 2: Dabo knew this was a possibility, I'm sure, going into
35:50
Speaker 2: this game. They've been bad on offense all year. And
35:52
Speaker 2: he decided at halftime of this game was the time
35:54
Speaker 2: he was going to take over play calling.
35:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. And, you know, one coach just quit in the
36:00
Speaker 1: middle of the game.
36:01
Speaker 2: Colorado State, Jim Warren Jr.
36:02
Speaker 1: 's guy. Yes, yes. But I... Speaking of the plan
36:07
Speaker 1: in place, did you see the Urban Meyer video? I
36:14
Speaker 1: didn't include it because we can't play it, but he
36:17
Speaker 1: goes through the process of calling a play on fourth
36:22
Speaker 1: down and gives an example of Ohio State and Texas,
36:26
Speaker 1: I believe, and the fourth and one going for the bundle.
36:33
Speaker 1: And how he determines in his headset who he's talking
36:37
Speaker 1: to and who has to stay silent. And it was like,
36:41
Speaker 1: fourth down, I want to hear from my offensive coordinator.
36:44
Speaker 1: And I want to hear from a student. Like a...
36:50
Speaker 1: What are the.
36:51
Speaker 2: Connor Stallion's type?
36:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Thank you, yes.
36:55
Speaker 2: And I didn't even know what his title was. But
36:58
Speaker 2: analytics guy, probably. An analyst, yeah.
37:00
Speaker 1: And so... He hears from that person first. Hey, should
37:04
Speaker 1: we do it? What do they say? Yes, 50-whatever percent,
37:07
Speaker 1: 60-whatever percent. And then he goes, all right, what's the
37:09
Speaker 1: play call? Then they get it into the quarterback, and
37:12
Speaker 1: then it shuts down.
37:13
Speaker 2: And how fast that process is is awesome. That's where
37:17
Speaker 2: I like Irvin Meyer.
37:19
Speaker 1: I don't like that he won't shake your hand, but
37:21
Speaker 1: I like the fact that he will take us inside
37:23
Speaker 1: the headset, which is phenomenal. He did a great job,
37:26
Speaker 1: and they did it live. They had some guys that
37:30
Speaker 1: acted the roles, and they did it live, and how
37:32
Speaker 1: fast that process is to get it into the quarterback
37:36
Speaker 1: and still have time to call the play and get
37:37
Speaker 1: lined up. It was awesome.
37:39
Speaker 2: Can you imagine being the guy who mistakenly speaks when
37:43
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to in Urban Meyer's headset?
37:45
Speaker 1: Think about that.
37:48
Speaker 2: I hear his response being like Shooter McGavin to his
37:50
Speaker 2: caddy at Happy Gilmore. He's like, well, you're fired. The
37:53
Speaker 2: one person who you hear their voice when they're not
37:55
Speaker 2: supposed to speak. He mentioned, he goes, I want to
37:57
Speaker 2: hear from two people. He was very deliberate. I want
38:00
Speaker 2: to hear from two people, two people only. Everyone else
38:03
Speaker 2: is silent. We've got to stay silent. And it was awesome.
38:07
Speaker 1: I'll send it to you, but I don't think we
38:08
Speaker 1: can play it based on.
38:09
Speaker 2: I've always thought about the different channels they have in
38:12
Speaker 2: communication during a game and going back to Clemson on
38:14
Speaker 2: this too. Um, If I'm the head coach, I don't
38:18
Speaker 2: want multiple voices. It's just defensive coordinator on defense and
38:23
Speaker 2: just offensive coordinator. I would just limit it. I don't need–
38:27
Speaker 2: if there's a special line for the analyst on a
38:30
Speaker 2: fourth down decision, you want to be able to plug
38:33
Speaker 2: into them.
38:33
Speaker 1: Just have a channel.
38:34
Speaker 2: If everybody on the offensive staff that's wired in has
38:39
Speaker 2: a chance to talk, I feel like that would be
38:41
Speaker 2: crazy at any point. Way too confusing.
38:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd have to have many channels. And then imagine
38:47
Speaker 1: how many people are talking, if you want to listen in,
38:50
Speaker 1: to just the back and forth from sideline to booth.
38:54
Speaker 1: And how many people.
38:55
Speaker 2: There are way too many people on the sideline for
38:58
Speaker 2: college football. Oh, it's crazy.
39:00
Speaker 1: Compared to the NFL, which you can barely get to
39:03
Speaker 1: the sideline to do a stand-up if you're local media.
39:07
Speaker 1: You can't get a credential to get down there. But
39:10
Speaker 1: everyone is down there in college football. Just random... donors
39:14
Speaker 1: and kids, and they stay there for the game. How
39:18
Speaker 1: many people were there for the A & M game
39:20
Speaker 1: when you went down to the fourth quarter?
39:22
Speaker 2: Oh, a ton. The pregame thing is different. We've been
39:25
Speaker 2: pregame at Ole Miss and Knoxville a couple times. And, like,
39:28
Speaker 2: there's a ton of people down the sideline then. But
39:31
Speaker 2: a lot of them are going back up to their
39:32
Speaker 2: seats when the game starts. I am amazed at the
39:35
Speaker 2: amount of people who have access to the field. If
39:38
Speaker 2: I was someone– if I'm an SID at those schools
39:40
Speaker 2: or game day relations, I would love a policy of, hey,
39:44
Speaker 2: no one goes on the field unless– You're credentialed media
39:47
Speaker 2: or you're a part of the staff of one of
39:48
Speaker 2: the two teams.
39:49
Speaker 1: But a big play on the sideline.
39:50
Speaker 2: Think how much easier that would make it, too, to
39:52
Speaker 2: just cut everyone out of the field. And you can
39:55
Speaker 2: go in your field side luxury box and sit and
40:00
Speaker 2: watch the game. You can go here, but you can't
40:02
Speaker 2: have so many people just roaming around the sideline.
40:04
Speaker 1: It would drive me crazy. I don't know how people
40:06
Speaker 1: don't get trucked more often, honestly. Maybe college. Just a
40:11
Speaker 1: sideline play going out of bounds. just people standing around, not,
40:15
Speaker 1: I mean, just not a part of the team, just
40:17
Speaker 1: standing there with, with, uh, I guess with the credential on,
40:21
Speaker 1: but having the sideline access is nuts. And the security
40:24
Speaker 1: access at different stadiums is also crazy to me.
40:28
Speaker 2: Remember when Joe Paterno got trucked on the sideline late
40:30
Speaker 2: in his career, the one time I always think about
40:33
Speaker 2: that with someone staying in the corner of the end zone,
40:34
Speaker 2: not paying attention, looking at their phone, you know, with
40:36
Speaker 2: a throw in the back of the end zone and
40:38
Speaker 2: defender or receiver runs over just a fan that's in
40:41
Speaker 2: the end zone. And, I'm with you. I'm surprised it
40:44
Speaker 2: doesn't happen more often.
40:45
Speaker 1: Hey, did you see where PFF had a grade for
40:50
Speaker 1: Cam Ward, saying that he was one of the best
40:53
Speaker 1: quarterbacks from the past weekend in performance?
40:58
Speaker 2: Well, that would make you doubt everything that PFF stands for,
41:01
Speaker 2: if that's the case.
41:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it from Stillman who put this out. What?
41:06
Speaker 1: How is that the quality of how they grade these quarterbacks?
41:12
Speaker 1: And you've got Sala, who's still defending him, but yet
41:17
Speaker 1: going after the defense, saying it was a defensive issue
41:20
Speaker 1: against the Browns as to why they lost. It's nuts
41:25
Speaker 1: how they're protecting him. And then you've got PFF saying
41:27
Speaker 1: he's one of the best graded quarterbacks of the weekend.
41:30
Speaker 1: I don't know how that's possible.
41:31
Speaker 2: It's hard to wrap your mind around the fact that
41:34
Speaker 2: we're still talking about footwork issues for Cam Ward right now.
41:38
Speaker 2: I got asked this, someone else, why does Cam Ward–
41:42
Speaker 2: try to throw the ball from a weird arm slot
41:44
Speaker 2: when he doesn't have to. Why does Cam Ward plant
41:46
Speaker 2: his feet and not move them with the throw at times? Hun,
41:51
Speaker 2: we're deep into season number two in the NFL. I
41:55
Speaker 2: don't know if it's just defiance from Cam Ward that
41:58
Speaker 2: this is the way he plays and he's going to
42:00
Speaker 2: throw the ball like this and he won't listen to anyone.
42:02
Speaker 2: I refuse to believe that Brian Dayball isn't talking to
42:05
Speaker 2: him about footwork as a quarterback.
42:07
Speaker 1: They have to be repping this in practice. But, you know,
42:11
Speaker 1: he has his own quarterback coach in the offseason. To me,
42:14
Speaker 1: there's a disconnect there because whatever they're doing in practice
42:17
Speaker 1: does not transfer to on-the-field play. And the feat of
42:23
Speaker 1: the quarterback is directly associated with accuracy.
42:29
Speaker 2: What quarterback coach, though, would say that's okay? I mean,
42:32
Speaker 2: you really need to get a new quarterback coach. If
42:34
Speaker 2: anybody is telling him that what he's doing is okay,
42:37
Speaker 2: then you need to fire that person and find someone new.
42:40
Speaker 1: And Sala was asked about the– Kowarski is doing a
42:44
Speaker 1: great job on asking about the fundamentals. And Sala just
42:48
Speaker 1: said some habits are really hard to break. I'm thinking, what?
42:52
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the season after all gas,
42:54
Speaker 1: no break, all of this hype in the offseason, and
42:57
Speaker 1: then you get right on the doorstep of the regular season,
43:02
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's this is our floor.
43:05
Speaker 1: Judge us by the end of the season. It's like
43:08
Speaker 1: a very abrupt– where everything he knew was not true.
43:14
Speaker 1: He was going back to a young team instead of
43:19
Speaker 1: a team that had just spent a ton of money
43:21
Speaker 1: in the offseason to get veterans on defense and to
43:25
Speaker 1: add things around the quarterback to raise the bar. And
43:29
Speaker 1: I don't see the bar moving up the way that
43:32
Speaker 1: they're talking week to week.
43:34
Speaker 2: Well, and to me, that goes back to Mike Borgonzi.
43:37
Speaker 2: If the coach is saying, boy, some habits are really
43:39
Speaker 2: hard to break, well, you drafted the guy number one overall.
43:42
Speaker 2: You didn't know that footwork was a problem? Or you
43:45
Speaker 2: just thought that you could snap your fingers after he's
43:47
Speaker 2: played football that long and he would change?
43:49
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is, like, the transfer from college to
43:52
Speaker 1: the NFL, I mean, he has the record for most
43:55
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. I mean, he had 36 games of 300-yard performances,
43:58
Speaker 1: like 11-ish performances of 400-plus. And it wasn't like it
44:07
Speaker 1: was all in Division II. This was legitimately at Washington
44:13
Speaker 1: State or at Miami. And that's not the quarterback we see.
44:18
Speaker 1: It's not a deacon dunk because that's the only way
44:20
Speaker 1: they can move the football, sometimes.
44:24
Speaker 2: I would also just say, that's on Cam Ward.
44:27
Speaker 1: Totally agree.
44:28
Speaker 2: Come on, man. You can get your feet set on...
44:32
Speaker 2: I don't buy that. Why did you ever start doing that?
44:36
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes does it out of necessity, and he's really
44:39
Speaker 2: good at it, but when he's throwing a shortstop arm
44:42
Speaker 2: slot because he played shortstop and he was a baseball player,
44:45
Speaker 2: he's doing it because he's getting around a defensive end
44:48
Speaker 2: and throwing the ball where he needs to. Cam Ward
44:50
Speaker 2: does it just to do it. He could plant his
44:52
Speaker 2: feet and throw the ball, and instead he's throwing from
44:55
Speaker 2: weird sidearm positions. His feet aren't moving. His feet are
44:59
Speaker 2: facing the wrong direction. He's doing things for no reason
45:03
Speaker 2: other than it's like he's saying, this is just what
45:05
Speaker 2: I do, and I want to do it this way,
45:07
Speaker 2: and you can't tell me how to play.
45:09
Speaker 1: It looks like they don't practice anything. But they clearly
45:12
Speaker 1: will and do. I mean, they would rep that. The
45:16
Speaker 1: other thing, Logan Ryan, who did a great job on
45:19
Speaker 1: commentary as the analyst in this game for CBS, he
45:25
Speaker 1: mentioned during the game about the Madden. It's like they're
45:27
Speaker 1: playing Madden. It looks like Madden. It does. without he
45:32
Speaker 1: shifts in the pocket and does all this stuff that
45:33
Speaker 1: you're talking about. At this point, we're, what, 24 games in?
45:39
Speaker 1: We know. Levis got booted way before this.
45:44
Speaker 2: And I don't see how they're– we're talking about let's
45:49
Speaker 2: see how he does by the end of the season.
45:51
Speaker 2: Do we really think we're going to see a result
45:53
Speaker 2: that's any different? How does he change our mind at
45:56
Speaker 2: this point with half a season compared to a year
45:59
Speaker 2: and a half of what we've seen?
46:01
Speaker 1: It's bizarre.
46:02
Speaker 2: Again, the only reason to start him is because you
46:07
Speaker 2: were saying it doesn't matter what we do the rest
46:11
Speaker 2: of the way. It's not about winning. It's about getting
46:14
Speaker 2: the number one pick. So we're going to keep starting
46:15
Speaker 2: him and trotting him out there. That's the only reason.
46:19
Speaker 2: You say there are no other things about development and
46:22
Speaker 2: maybe he can turn it around. It's too late. It
46:25
Speaker 2: is too late. People say, oh, it's year two and
46:27
Speaker 2: it This guy is not some young player when he
46:30
Speaker 2: got to the league. He played a lot of places
46:32
Speaker 2: in college.
46:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
46:33
Speaker 2: He's year two in the NFL, and the guy is
46:36
Speaker 2: still making the same dumb mistakes, and he's not changed
46:40
Speaker 2: his footwork at all. Maybe it's going to take getting
46:44
Speaker 2: cut for Cam Ward to listen to an NFL quarterback
46:47
Speaker 2: coach and change his footwork. Maybe that's the rock-bottom moment
46:50
Speaker 2: he needs to change how he plays the game. I
46:53
Speaker 2: don't know. But it's not good enough with what he's
46:55
Speaker 2: done for your organization. And again, the only reason that
46:58
Speaker 2: if you're the coach and you're standing in front of
46:59
Speaker 2: your team and you're saying, hey, Cam Ward's our guy.
47:02
Speaker 2: It's not a quarterback issue. I'm going to tell you
47:03
Speaker 2: all these things, even though they're false. And we're going
47:06
Speaker 2: to keep trotting him out there as a starting quarterback.
47:09
Speaker 2: The only reason you're doing that is because deep down
47:11
Speaker 2: you're being told to do it. And it doesn't matter
47:14
Speaker 2: because you need to lose games because, hey, big outcome
47:17
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Dolphins win, Titans lose. That's a great, great
47:21
Speaker 2: outcome for the Titans and the Jeremiah Smith sweepstakes. So
47:24
Speaker 2: that could be what the Titans are playing for right
47:26
Speaker 2: now because I can't think of any other reason to
47:28
Speaker 2: play him and not give Mitch Trubisky a try. If
47:32
Speaker 2: you're trying to win games, if you're trying to improve
47:35
Speaker 2: as a team, that's the move that you make.
47:37
Speaker 1: I think it clearly is a mandate to keep him
47:40
Speaker 1: in because the example would be Elante Taylor, who they
47:44
Speaker 1: gave a boatload of money to in the offseason. Now
47:46
Speaker 1: they've benched him and they're moving him to nickel. Which
47:51
Speaker 1: is like a linebacker position in the solid defense. Now
47:54
Speaker 1: they're repping this and getting him ready to play nickel
47:57
Speaker 1: after paying him like an outside corner. And they've done
48:00
Speaker 1: it this quickly. Six games in. Salah did that in
48:05
Speaker 1: his defense, but he won't play the other quarterback. To me,
48:10
Speaker 1: it's because he can't. If I'm a player on the team,
48:14
Speaker 1: I'm with you. At some point, you're like, man, you're
48:18
Speaker 1: preaching to us about all this stuff, but we're really
48:20
Speaker 1: just playing the quarterback because they're trying to make sure
48:23
Speaker 1: he's good before they open that stadium.
48:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll tell stories about this team 15 years from
48:28
Speaker 2: now that are members of it saying, oh, remember that
48:31
Speaker 2: year when we were playing for the number one overall
48:32
Speaker 2: pick and tanking and they kept trotting out the quarterback
48:36
Speaker 2: who was bad the whole season? I mean, that's how
48:38
Speaker 2: they're going to talk about this season. We've talked to
48:41
Speaker 2: former Titans players and players in the league that knew
48:44
Speaker 2: that they were supposed to lose on a team, that
48:46
Speaker 2: it was almost a bad thing if they won the game.
48:49
Speaker 2: The Dolphins And Steven Ross, I know, got in trouble
48:51
Speaker 2: for this at one point, too, who the Titans are
48:53
Speaker 2: going to be battling with this year for that number
48:55
Speaker 2: one pick also. But, yeah, I mean, it's not good.
49:00
Speaker 2: I mean, again, if you're actually trying to win games,
49:03
Speaker 2: then that's a move that you make to try something,
49:06
Speaker 2: and they're not doing it.
49:07
Speaker 1: I'll go back to these coaches. I'm putting Dable in here, too.
49:10
Speaker 1: They want to win because of their record as head
49:13
Speaker 1: coach or their ability to be a head coach again.
49:17
Speaker 1: Losing games and failing in development is not the way
49:20
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49:23
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49:26
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50:17
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50:18
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50:30
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50:32
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50:49
Speaker 2: Look around the SEC here. Great shout-out, MacGruber.
50:53
Speaker 1: Yes, look around the SEC with the early lines. You
50:57
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51:01
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51:04
Speaker 1: to get your opinion. I took Arkansas plus the points
51:08
Speaker 1: early on this week.
51:10
Speaker 2: Okay.
51:10
Speaker 1: I've got Arkansas plus nine and a half.
51:12
Speaker 2: Did you get it at ten? Because it opened at
51:13
Speaker 2: ten or ten and a half.
51:14
Speaker 1: I got it at nine and a half. Okay. And
51:17
Speaker 1: I played Texas early. And I'm laying the points against
51:20
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, minus 20.5. These are exactly the points that
51:24
Speaker 1: I have, and I've already bet.
51:25
Speaker 2: So when you say laying the points, you've got Texas
51:27
Speaker 2: minus 20.5. I have Texas minus 20.5 already, yep. So
51:31
Speaker 2: those are the two I played earlier this week. I
51:33
Speaker 2: would be hesitant on that Texas one. I like your
51:36
Speaker 2: Arkansas play. I'd say the one that jumps out to
51:38
Speaker 2: me that I think could be ugly, I think Ole
51:40
Speaker 2: Miss wins by two touchdowns, at least, in this game.
51:44
Speaker 2: I like them at home.
51:44
Speaker 1: Double the spread.
51:45
Speaker 2: Over Auburn, I don't know if I'd double the spread,
51:48
Speaker 2: but I would say 18, 19, 20 points for sure
51:52
Speaker 2: in that one. Georgia, Florida, that feels like a lot
51:56
Speaker 2: of points.
51:57
Speaker 1: I agree.
51:57
Speaker 2: 10.5, I'm not confident betting either side of that one,
52:03
Speaker 2: but Georgia, 10.5 feels like a ton to me. I
52:07
Speaker 2: would take South Carolina.
52:08
Speaker 1: South Carolina.
52:10
Speaker 2: I would take a money line at Oklahoma.
52:13
Speaker 1: I really would.
52:15
Speaker 2: Lenora Sellers is not having a great passing year, and
52:17
Speaker 2: he missed some throws against Tennessee. That dude's a load
52:20
Speaker 2: to bring down. When he's running and their rushing attack
52:23
Speaker 2: is going, they're really tough to stop. And they start fast. Yeah,
52:27
Speaker 2: they have in every game. They've blown some two-score leads.
52:30
Speaker 2: Almost did again this past weekend. But I like South
52:33
Speaker 2: Carolina on the road against Oklahoma. There's always that, oh, well,
52:37
Speaker 2: South Carolina just had a big emotional moment. And now
52:40
Speaker 2: they're going to have the other end of the seesaw
52:41
Speaker 2: in this game at Oklahoma. But I do like the
52:44
Speaker 2: Gamecocks in that one. This is as blah of a
52:48
Speaker 2: week in the SEC as we're going to have outside
52:51
Speaker 2: of when everybody's playing a bye game early in the
52:54
Speaker 2: year when they're all paying people to come in and
52:56
Speaker 2: get their heads beaten in. This is about as bad
52:59
Speaker 2: as you're going to get in the SEC this week.
53:00
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53:12
Speaker 1: way LSU played against Auburn has me questioning Georgia right now.
53:18
Speaker 1: And that's why I would take the points against Florida
53:22
Speaker 1: right now. I'm not playing that yet. I want to
53:24
Speaker 1: see what happens with that line. But especially in that game,
53:28
Speaker 1: Although it's being played in Atlanta instead of the traditional
53:33
Speaker 1: neutral field in Atlanta, that's a home game for Georgia.
53:36
Speaker 1: We know that.
53:38
Speaker 2: I think that might end up being the craziest one-off
53:41
Speaker 2: of the SEC season when all is said and done.
53:44
Speaker 2: I don't think Auburn's that good. I don't think Byron
53:47
Speaker 2: Brown's that good. I don't think their offense is good
53:49
Speaker 2: at all this year.
53:50
Speaker 1: It's just the way they came.
53:51
Speaker 2: And they fell right back down against LSU this game. Now,
53:54
Speaker 2: they could prove me wrong this week. If they even
53:56
Speaker 2: take it down to the wire– against Ole Miss, I'd say, okay,
53:58
Speaker 2: Auburn has gotten a lot better and they're here to stay.
54:01
Speaker 2: But I just think that's, we're going to look back
54:03
Speaker 2: at the end of the year and say, hey, remember
54:04
Speaker 2: when Auburn went on the road and won on a
54:07
Speaker 2: walk-off field goal at Georgia? How wild was that? It's
54:10
Speaker 2: not going to be a sign of things to come
54:11
Speaker 2: this year. I like Alex Golish. I think he'll figure
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Speaker 2: it out at Auburn. But I think that we're going
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Speaker 2: to look back and say that it was crazy that
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Speaker 2: that happened.
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