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- 0:00Speaker 1: A small town in the south of Australia. A few streets,
- 0:03Speaker 1: a pub, a petrol station, hours from the nearest city.
- 0:07Speaker 1: The kind of place where nothing really happens. And there
- 0:10Speaker 1: were five people and a quiet house at the end
- 0:13Speaker 1: of a long road, enjoying a few hours together. It
- 0:16Speaker 1: should have been a forgettable day. But it wasn't. This
- 0:19Speaker 1: is the story of the Mushroom Murders. Crime, conspiracy, cults,
- 0:24Speaker 1: serial killers, and murder, all things that I love to consume,
- 0:27Speaker 1: and I know you do too, you sick, twisted, beautiful,
- 0:29Speaker 1: intellectually-minded freak. Today, we are talking about the Mushroom Murders.
- 0:34Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's unbuckle our seatbelt, go Mach
- 0:36Speaker 1: 5 down the highway, slam on the brakes, and bust
- 0:38Speaker 1: through the windshield into this infamous Australian case together. All right,
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- 2:26Speaker 1: Erin Trudy Scudder was born in 1974 in suburban Melbourne,
- 2:31Speaker 1: and she grew up in Glen Waverly, a quiet residential
- 2:34Speaker 1: neighborhood about 19 kilometers southeast of the city center. Yes,
- 2:38Speaker 1: we're talking in kilometers today, people. All right, we're in Australia. Also,
- 2:42Speaker 1: as a Canadian, I'm loving it. But it was the
- 2:45Speaker 1: kind of place where families put down roots and just
- 2:48Speaker 1: never really left. And this suburb had undergone rapid growth
- 2:52Speaker 1: in the 1960s. And by the time Erin was a child,
- 2:55Speaker 1: Glen Waverly was home to nine primary schools and four
- 2:59Speaker 1: high schools. And Holmes sat on big lots along organized streets,
- 3:03Speaker 1: just a solidly middle-class Australia. And her family fit that mold,
- 3:08Speaker 1: because her father, Eichen Scudder, worked for the government, and
- 3:12Speaker 1: her mother, Dr. Heather Scudder, held a position at Menash
- 3:16Speaker 1: University as a literature lecturer. And Heather specialized in children's literature,
- 3:22Speaker 1: specifically Australian studies and women's writings. And she authored an
- 3:26Speaker 1: academic book called Displaced Fictions, a detailed study of contemporary
- 3:31Speaker 1: Australian teen and young adult fiction. And Erin's sister, Canewyn
- 3:36Speaker 1: Ruth Scudder, would study geology at Menash, following the family path.
- 3:40Speaker 1: So with an academic mother, a public servant father, and
- 3:45Speaker 1: two university-bound daughters, the Scudders were a modern Australian family
- 3:49Speaker 1: on paper. And by every measure, Erin was right at
- 3:52Speaker 1: home in it. She was bright, she was bookish, she
- 3:56Speaker 1: was quick with commitment. And her teachers would notice her
- 3:59Speaker 1: really early. She had the kind of mind that picked
- 4:01Speaker 1: things up faster than anyone in the room around her.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And by the time she finished high school, she had
- 4:07Speaker 1: a place at the University of Melbourne waiting for her.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Just a bright, full life ahead of her. And Erin
- 4:13Speaker 1: had a mind that just didn't sit still. She kept
- 4:16Speaker 1: picking up new qualifications and new fields and new subjects
- 4:19Speaker 1: to dig into. And she started at the University of
- 4:22Speaker 1: Melbourne in 1992, where she earned a place in the
- 4:25Speaker 1: science program. And science eventually gave way to accounting, which
- 4:30Speaker 1: became her first job, which offered her very stable, very
- 4:33Speaker 1: conventional work. But she wasn't done collecting qualifications. And in
- 4:38Speaker 1: February 2001, she joined Air Services Australia and began their
- 4:42Speaker 1: air traffic control training program in Melbourne. And the course
- 4:46Speaker 1: ran 10 months long, and it was very competitive, technical,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and not everyone made it through. It's very difficult. My
- 4:53Speaker 1: grandpa used to do it, and it's one of the
- 4:54Speaker 1: most stressful jobs you can actually ever do, ever. And
- 4:58Speaker 1: air traffic control is one of those professions most people
- 5:01Speaker 1: never think about until something goes wrong. Controllers manage the
- 5:05Speaker 1: movement of aircraft in real time, sequencing takeoffs, landings, and
- 5:09Speaker 1: routing across packed airspace. It's, again, just very stressful. You
- 5:14Speaker 1: have hundreds of lives in your hands at every given moment, essentially.
- 5:18Speaker 1: And a single miscommunication can end those lives. So by
- 5:22Speaker 1: the time the program was finished, Erin had earned her
- 5:25Speaker 1: place in the tower. So she was a university graduate
- 5:28Speaker 1: and a qualified air traffic controller. And a manager who
- 5:32Speaker 1: worked with her remembered her this way, saying, quote, colorful, smart,
- 5:36Speaker 1: very smart. She was no dummy. Unquote. So Air Services
- 5:40Speaker 1: Australia lasted less than two years. And by November 2002,
- 5:45Speaker 1: she would eventually move on. But her next stop was
- 5:48Speaker 1: local government. And she picked up a position at the
- 5:50Speaker 1: Menashe City Council in Melbourne. And the Royal Society for
- 5:54Speaker 1: the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the RSPCA, ran an
- 5:58Speaker 1: animal management office inside the council. And by 2004, Erin
- 6:03Speaker 1: was there as an administrative assistant, filing paperwork, basically. and
- 6:07Speaker 1: handling the unglamorous daily rhythm of local government, a world
- 6:12Speaker 1: away from the control tower, which again is like an
- 6:14Speaker 1: extremely stressful job, so I don't blame her for switching jobs.
- 6:18Speaker 1: But the fact that she can just like toss around
- 6:20Speaker 1: all these high qualifications and just kind of pick and
- 6:23Speaker 1: choose whatever she wants to do because she's so smart
- 6:25Speaker 1: is very impressive. So Erin's government job turned out to
- 6:29Speaker 1: matter more than even the title suggested, because also working
- 6:33Speaker 1: at the city of Menashe was a civil engineer named
- 6:35Speaker 1: Simon Patterson, And a group of council employees had formed
- 6:39Speaker 1: what Simon described as, quote unquote, a fairly eclectic circle
- 6:43Speaker 1: of friends. And Erin found her way into that group.
- 6:47Speaker 1: And by July 2005, Erin and Simon were together. But
- 6:51Speaker 1: she'd met his parents even before the relationship had really begun.
- 6:55Speaker 1: and it was March or April 2005. And she and
- 6:58Speaker 1: Simon had gone camping with a group of friends, and
- 7:01Speaker 1: somewhere along the way, they swung by the family Patterson home. Now,
- 7:04Speaker 1: the Pattersons lived in Corumbura, a small town in the
- 7:07Speaker 1: green hilly country of South Gippsland, roughly 90 minutes southeast
- 7:11Speaker 1: of Melbourne. And that afternoon was the first time Erin
- 7:14Speaker 1: met Dawn and Gail Patterson. Now, Dawn and Gail's lives
- 7:18Speaker 1: had followed similar paths from the very beginning. Both were
- 7:21Speaker 1: in scouts and guides as children, both took up piano
- 7:24Speaker 1: and tennis, and both spent holidays at the same beachside
- 7:27Speaker 1: towns on the Morrington Peninsula, Rosebud and Germanna. And their
- 7:30Speaker 1: paths first crossed at Sunday School in Hughesdale, a suburb
- 7:35Speaker 1: east of Melbourne's centre. And Don came out of Melbourne
- 7:37Speaker 1: University with a science degree, and he had the foundation
- 7:40Speaker 1: for a research career in Australia, but he and Gail
- 7:43Speaker 1: decided on a different direction. And the couple just packed
- 7:47Speaker 1: up and moved abroad. Botswana first, then China, and both
- 7:51Speaker 1: stints centered on mission work and teaching. And when they
- 7:54Speaker 1: eventually returned, Don took a position at Coramborough Secondary College,
- 7:58Speaker 1: where he taught for 25 years and at one point
- 8:01Speaker 1: served as deputy principal. And Richard Collier, who taught alongside him,
- 8:04Speaker 1: described Don as a man who earned deep respect from students, parents,
- 8:09Speaker 1: and staff. And the exchange program he helped create sent
- 8:12Speaker 1: Coramborough students to China and which, of course, was a
- 8:15Speaker 1: country he and Gail had already poured years of their
- 8:18Speaker 1: lives into. And Gail's contributions ran just as deep. In Botswana,
- 8:22Speaker 1: she'd homeschooled their children using lessons materials sent from Australia.
- 8:27Speaker 1: And Simon liked to joke that he, quote, reached his
- 8:30Speaker 1: academic peak in grade four, unquote, which he insisted was, quote,
- 8:35Speaker 1: no reflection on the teachers that followed, but on mom's
- 8:38Speaker 1: ability as a teacher, unquote. And back in Corumbura, she
- 8:42Speaker 1: worked in the school office at the secondary college alongside Dawn. Now,
- 8:47Speaker 1: beyond the school, her volunteer work was described as, quote, unquote,
- 8:50Speaker 1: quietly extensive. Bible study groups, youth events, community meals, producing
- 8:55Speaker 1: the Borough Flyer Newsletter, reading newspapers aloud for people who
- 8:59Speaker 1: couldn't see, welcoming overseas visitors and newcomers to the town, etc., etc.
- 9:04Speaker 1: These people are saints, it seems. Doesn't it? Like, they're
- 9:09Speaker 1: just giving everything they have to everyone around them. And
- 9:12Speaker 1: when a fire destroyed the secondary college's records in 1993,
- 9:16Speaker 1: Gale helped piece them back together. So it was said
- 9:20Speaker 1: of the couple, quote, they just got on with living
- 9:23Speaker 1: generous lives quietly and without fanfare, unquote. And Gail's younger
- 9:28Speaker 1: sister was Heather Wilkinson, born Heather Young. And her husband
- 9:32Speaker 1: was Ian Wilkinson. And together, they raised four children, David, Luke, Ruth,
- 9:37Speaker 1: and Elizabeth. And Heather taught English to adult migrants, and
- 9:41Speaker 1: she never stopped. And she was called a gifted teacher.
- 9:44Speaker 1: And under her influence, more parents started volunteering at the
- 9:48Speaker 1: school than ever before. And one friend who had known
- 9:51Speaker 1: Heather her entire life said, quote unquote, the spirit of
- 9:54Speaker 1: God was always evident in Heather. And quote, peaceful, grateful, calm, joyful.
- 9:59Speaker 1: She is kind, friendly, even-tempered, and with a quirky sense
- 10:03Speaker 1: of humor, unquote. And Ian had been the pastor of
- 10:05Speaker 1: Coram Borough Baptist Church for more than two decades, marking
- 10:09Speaker 1: his 25th year in the role in February of 2024.
- 10:11Speaker 1: And for these families, faith wasn't something they set aside
- 10:15Speaker 1: after Sunday service. It really just shaped the way they
- 10:18Speaker 1: lived every single day. So when Aaron and Simon married
- 10:22Speaker 1: on June 2nd, 2007, at the Corambura Anglican Church, they
- 10:27Speaker 1: chose that church deliberately. And Aaron said they wanted Ian
- 10:31Speaker 1: and Heather, quote, to be able to come and relax
- 10:34Speaker 1: with guests, unquote, rather than working the ceremony at their
- 10:38Speaker 1: own Baptist church. And the reception was held under a
- 10:40Speaker 1: marquee in Dawn and Gail's backyard in Corambura. But Erin's
- 10:44Speaker 1: parents weren't able to be there. So the person who
- 10:47Speaker 1: walked her down the aisle was David Wilkinson, which was
- 10:50Speaker 1: Ian and Heather's son. But Faith hadn't always been part
- 10:54Speaker 1: of Erin's world. And she actually said she'd actively tried
- 10:57Speaker 1: to convert him away from belief, saying, quote, I was
- 11:00Speaker 1: trying to convert him into being an atheist, but things
- 11:03Speaker 1: happened in reverse, unquote. And then around 2005, she walked
- 11:08Speaker 1: into Cumbura Baptist Church for the first time. And something shifted.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Ian Wilkinson stood behind the pulpit, and up to that point,
- 11:16Speaker 1: faith had been nothing more than an intellectual puzzle to her.
- 11:19Speaker 1: But something hit her in that room. It, quote-unquote, quite
- 11:24Speaker 1: overwhelmed her, and it pulled her into the orbit of
- 11:27Speaker 1: the very people sitting in those pews. The Pattersons, the Wilkinsons.
- 11:32Speaker 1: and the small-town faith community they'd spent a lifetime building.
- 11:36Speaker 1: And after the wedding, Aaron and Simon didn't settle down
- 11:39Speaker 1: right away. And instead, they would use money from Aaron's
- 11:41Speaker 1: inheritance and buy a Nissan Patrol, Patrol, Patrol, sorry if
- 11:45Speaker 1: I'm saying that wrong, and drove into Outback, Australia. Sorry,
- 11:49Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. I had to do it once. Okay,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I won't do it again. But Simon described those months
- 11:55Speaker 1: as a, quote-unquote, meander through the country's vast interior. And
- 12:00Speaker 1: from there, they flew to Africa, traveling through South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and Namibia. And Botswana, as you may recall, was one
- 12:09Speaker 1: of those places where Don and Gail had lived decades
- 12:12Speaker 1: earlier as missionaries. And by September 2007, they'd settled in Perth.
- 12:17Speaker 1: And their first child, a boy, arrived in January of 2009.
- 12:20Speaker 1: And the birth was pretty rough. Forceps failed during delivery,
- 12:25Speaker 1: and the doctors had to perform an emergency C-section. and
- 12:29Speaker 1: their newborn ended up in the intensive care unit. But
- 12:32Speaker 1: even before the doctors cleared her, Erin signed herself out.
- 12:36Speaker 1: She wanted to be at her baby's side. And Dawn
- 12:39Speaker 1: and Gail came to help with the new baby, and
- 12:41Speaker 1: Erin said she felt, quote, out of my depth, unquote,
- 12:46Speaker 1: and was, quote, really relieved that Gail was there, unquote.
- 12:49Speaker 1: So she had that support system. And she described her
- 12:52Speaker 1: mother-in-law as, quote, really supportive and gentle and patient, unquote.
- 12:56Speaker 1: And Gail told Aaron to, quote, just relax and enjoy
- 12:59Speaker 1: your baby. And those words landed deeply. And for a stretch,
- 13:03Speaker 1: in 2011 and 2012, the family was living in Pemberton,
- 13:07Speaker 1: a tiny timber milling town in the southwestern region of
- 13:10Speaker 1: Western Australia. And Aaron opened a secondhand bookshop there, and
- 13:14Speaker 1: it became kind of a hub for serious readers in
- 13:16Speaker 1: a place where you wouldn't necessarily expect one. And eventually,
- 13:20Speaker 1: after their first child, a daughter would follow in 2014.
- 13:24Speaker 1: And as it turned out, Simon's sister Anna, Tarrington, was
- 13:28Speaker 1: also expecting. So the two babies were born within three
- 13:31Speaker 1: days of each other. So the family started affectionately calling
- 13:34Speaker 1: them the twins. And that same year, Aaron and Simon
- 13:38Speaker 1: bought a house in Corumbura so they could be closer
- 13:41Speaker 1: to Simon's parents. And this was the town where Don taught,
- 13:44Speaker 1: where Ian preached, and where Gail had spent decades quietly
- 13:47Speaker 1: holding the community together. So the entire family was putting
- 13:51Speaker 1: down their roots. But trouble arrived with their first child.
- 13:56Speaker 1: And even with a baby, Simon wanted to keep road tripping.
- 14:00Speaker 1: The family headed north along the Gibb River Road, a
- 14:02Speaker 1: remote track through Western Australia's Kimberley region. And somewhere around Queensland,
- 14:08Speaker 1: the trip fell apart, and Erin booked a flight to
- 14:11Speaker 1: Perth and left. And Simon had no choice but to
- 14:14Speaker 1: drive back with the baby. So it was a week
- 14:17Speaker 1: on the road, just him and his infant. And when
- 14:20Speaker 1: he finally got back, she'd already arranged a rental cottage
- 14:23Speaker 1: for herself. And Simon wound up at a caravan park nearby.
- 14:27Speaker 1: So this would be the first time Aaron would leave.
- 14:30Speaker 1: And they were apart roughly two to three months before
- 14:33Speaker 1: getting back together. And it kind of became a pattern.
- 14:36Speaker 1: From 2009 to 2015, the couple separated and reconciled multiple times.
- 14:41Speaker 1: And Simon felt that she was the one who always
- 14:43Speaker 1: left despite his desire to have a solid marriage. Quote,
- 14:47Speaker 1: what I understood from Erin was that she was struggling
- 14:50Speaker 1: inside herself, unquote. Now, Erin framed the problem differently, saying, quote,
- 14:55Speaker 1: if we had a disagreement or any kind of conflict,
- 14:58Speaker 1: we didn't seem to be able to talk about it
- 15:00Speaker 1: in a way where either of us felt heard or understood, unquote.
- 15:04Speaker 1: And eventually she told him the way they related to
- 15:06Speaker 1: each other was toxic. And the marriage drifted through towns
- 15:10Speaker 1: along the way. And they would try counseling and patch
- 15:13Speaker 1: things up together and would actually move to York, which
- 15:16Speaker 1: is in Western Australia. And then came the tiny timber
- 15:20Speaker 1: settlement of Quinnenup. And they came back to Victoria in 2013,
- 15:25Speaker 1: a short stop in Bena, then a house in Corumbura.
- 15:29Speaker 1: And the final split came in November of 2015. She
- 15:32Speaker 1: picked up a place of her own in Corumbura, and
- 15:35Speaker 1: the family home was behind her. Quote, I didn't want
- 15:38Speaker 1: to be separated, but I felt there was no choice, unquote.
- 15:42Speaker 1: But still, through it all, they never divorced. And what
- 15:45Speaker 1: made the split unusual was how little seemed to change
- 15:49Speaker 1: on the surface. Custody was split, but they continued texting regularly,
- 15:54Speaker 1: and they still sat in the same pews on Sunday.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And they even traveled together as a family. And Aaron
- 16:00Speaker 1: noted that Dawn and Gail never changed after the separation. Quote,
- 16:04Speaker 1: they just continued to love me, unquote, she would say.
- 16:08Speaker 1: And they treated her, quote, like their own daughter, unquote.
- 16:11Speaker 1: And Simon confirmed Aaron saying, quote, got along very well
- 16:15Speaker 1: with his parents, especially with dad, unquote. So in February
- 16:19Speaker 1: of 2022, Dawn reached out to offer video call tutoring
- 16:23Speaker 1: for Aaron's eldest child. telling her he was happy to
- 16:26Speaker 1: help with any subject he had some competence in. And
- 16:29Speaker 1: both Erin and Don had what Simon described as inquiring minds,
- 16:34Speaker 1: and the two of them bonded over shared curiosity. Financially,
- 16:37Speaker 1: Erin was pretty well off, because her grandmother's death in
- 16:41Speaker 1: 2006 had left behind a substantial estate. And Erin's share
- 16:45Speaker 1: was evaluated at around two million Australian dollars, parceled out
- 16:49Speaker 1: over eight years. And her father had died of cancer
- 16:53Speaker 1: in 2011, and when her mother died of cancer some
- 16:55Speaker 1: years later, another inheritance followed. And Simon called her very
- 17:00Speaker 1: generous with his family, and the numbers backed that up.
- 17:04Speaker 1: She lent hundreds of thousands of dollars to each of
- 17:07Speaker 1: his three siblings. And his brother, Matt, alone received $ 300, 000
- 17:10Speaker 1: to $ 400, 000, Australian dollars, to help build a home. And
- 17:16Speaker 1: she would buy property of her own, a unit in
- 17:19Speaker 1: Mount Waverly, and a place on Gibson Street in Leangatha,
- 17:23Speaker 1: still being finished when she moved in. So, pretty generous,
- 17:27Speaker 1: I'd say. And she called Gibson Street her final house,
- 17:30Speaker 1: the place where her children would grow up and she'd
- 17:33Speaker 1: grow old. But they lived with her only part-time under
- 17:36Speaker 1: the shared custody agreement. And she wasn't working at that time.
- 17:40Speaker 1: And she had actually deferred a place in a nursing
- 17:42Speaker 1: and midwifery course because she was pretty comfortable from her
- 17:46Speaker 1: assets saying, quote, I could afford to go to university
- 17:49Speaker 1: and I didn't need to work a job at the
- 17:52Speaker 1: same time, unquote. Teach the round. If you got it,
- 17:55Speaker 1: why not? So on Mother's Day of 2023, Gail sent
- 17:58Speaker 1: Aaron a text saying, quote, Happy Mother's Day, Aaron. May
- 18:02Speaker 1: God bless you. Love, Dawn and Gail, unquote. And Aaron
- 18:06Speaker 1: wrote back, quote, So regardless of Simon and Aaron's separation,
- 18:16Speaker 1: the family was still really close-knit. But something awful was
- 18:21Speaker 1: about to take place. So on Saturday, July 29th, 2023,
- 18:25Speaker 1: Aaron invited five people to lunch at her home on
- 18:28Speaker 1: Gibson Street. Simon, his parents, Dawn, and Gail, and Gail's sister, Heather.
- 18:33Speaker 1: along with Heather's husband, Ian. So just that whole close-knit family.
- 18:38Speaker 1: And it was to be an adults-only gathering. And Erin's
- 18:41Speaker 1: kids were spending a day with a friend, so it
- 18:43Speaker 1: was really just all the adults getting together for a
- 18:45Speaker 1: nice lunch. But Erin had some news for the family,
- 18:50Speaker 1: and the purpose of this gathering was medical. Because Erin
- 18:53Speaker 1: told the family she was dealing with a health scare
- 18:56Speaker 1: and needed help figuring out what to say to her children.
- 18:59Speaker 1: And the night before, Simon texted to say he wouldn't
- 19:02Speaker 1: be coming. And he would tell her he felt too
- 19:05Speaker 1: uncomfortable to attend. But he offered to have the conversation
- 19:09Speaker 1: over the phone if she still wanted his input. Now,
- 19:12Speaker 1: Erin wrote back at length. because she had spent the
- 19:14Speaker 1: entire week getting prepared mentally and getting the house ready
- 19:17Speaker 1: and the meal and just everything. And she would say
- 19:20Speaker 1: to him, quote, the work had been exhausting in light
- 19:22Speaker 1: of the issue I'm facing, unquote. And she even said
- 19:25Speaker 1: she'd put, quote, a small fortune toward Beef Eye Filet
- 19:29Speaker 1: to make Beef Wellingtons because she wanted it to be
- 19:31Speaker 1: a special meal. I may not be able to host
- 19:34Speaker 1: a lunch like this again for some time, she would add, quote,
- 19:38Speaker 1: it's important to me that you're all there tomorrow. I
- 19:41Speaker 1: hope you change your mind, unquote. But Simon would never reply,
- 19:45Speaker 1: and he would stay home, and his chair at the
- 19:48Speaker 1: table would sit and But the remaining four guests arrived
- 19:52Speaker 1: that Saturday, Dawn and Gail, Heather and Ian. And for
- 19:56Speaker 1: the Wilkinsons especially, the invitation had carried real weight. They
- 20:01Speaker 1: were very happy to be invited, and Ian had taken
- 20:04Speaker 1: it as a hopeful signal, a sense that maybe our
- 20:07Speaker 1: relationship with Aaron was going to improve, unquote. Because the
- 20:10Speaker 1: family was still close, but the separation had caused, you know,
- 20:14Speaker 1: some friction in the family, so everybody was just happy
- 20:16Speaker 1: to be getting together. So before they sat down to eat,
- 20:19Speaker 1: Erin took her guests on a tour of the house.
- 20:22Speaker 1: And then once lunch was ready, Heather and Gail offered
- 20:25Speaker 1: to bring the food out. So Erin would plate the
- 20:27Speaker 1: portions and all the women would bring out the food together.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Then they would bow their heads and say grace before
- 20:33Speaker 1: the first bite. The conversation over the meal was light.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Family talk, easy laughter, no one was in any sort
- 20:41Speaker 1: of rush. The Wilkinsons ate their meal and Gail got
- 20:44Speaker 1: through about half her portion before pushing the plate over
- 20:47Speaker 1: to Don to finish. And between his own plate and hers,
- 20:50Speaker 1: Don ate close to a serving and a half. And
- 20:53Speaker 1: there was the teasing around the table about, quote, husbands
- 20:56Speaker 1: helping their wives out by eating extra food, unquote. So
- 21:00Speaker 1: the lunch was going really well. And then dessert was
- 21:03Speaker 1: already waiting. And it was a cake Gail had baked.
- 21:06Speaker 1: and a fruit platter Heather had prepared. And the group
- 21:09Speaker 1: managed a little of each, but after the Wellingtons, there
- 21:11Speaker 1: wasn't much appetite to go around. But once the plates
- 21:14Speaker 1: were cleared, the mood of the afternoon changed. And Erin
- 21:18Speaker 1: told the group she discovered a lump on her elbow.
- 21:21Speaker 1: And she'd said it had been diagnosed as cancer. Quote,
- 21:25Speaker 1: very serious, life-threatening, unquote. And Ian said she'd appeared, quote,
- 21:30Speaker 1: very concerned, unquote, about what the diagnosis meant. And she
- 21:34Speaker 1: asked for the guidance on whether to tell her children,
- 21:37Speaker 1: and if so, how. So the news would settle over
- 21:41Speaker 1: the room. A cancer diagnosis in this circle wasn't something
- 21:45Speaker 1: anyone would carry alone. And Dawn was the first to respond.
- 21:49Speaker 1: And he told her, quote, that the best approach was
- 21:52Speaker 1: to be honest, unquote. And then they prayed, asking for
- 21:56Speaker 1: God's blessing on Aaron. And they held her in that
- 21:59Speaker 1: prayer the way they'd held each other through every hard
- 22:02Speaker 1: chapter for nearly 20 years. And the afternoon wound down
- 22:06Speaker 1: quietly after that. And the guests left sometime in the
- 22:08Speaker 1: late afternoon, and Heather said that the food had been
- 22:12Speaker 1: delicious and beautiful. So by every measure available to the
- 22:15Speaker 1: people sitting at that table, it had been a warm Saturday.
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- 23:33Speaker 1: And let's get back to it. But by nightfall, every
- 23:37Speaker 1: one of them would fall ill. Diarrhea and vomiting started
- 23:41Speaker 1: to set in after dark, and it wouldn't stop. Both
- 23:45Speaker 1: couples spent long hours assuming it would pass, but by
- 23:49Speaker 1: Sunday morning, it was clear it wouldn't. The Pattersons and
- 23:52Speaker 1: the Wilkinsons compared symptoms by phone and realized all four
- 23:56Speaker 1: of them were sick. Don and Gail actually called the ambulance,
- 24:01Speaker 1: and they arrived at Corimbra Hospital at 10.10 a.m. on
- 24:05Speaker 1: July 30th. And between the two of them, Don had
- 24:08Speaker 1: taken the harder hit, and Simon drove the Wilkinsons to
- 24:11Speaker 1: Leongatha Hospital at 10.57 a.m., a different hospital roughly 20
- 24:16Speaker 1: minutes away because Corimbra didn't have the capacity for all
- 24:20Speaker 1: four patients. But at both hospitals, the initial assessment was
- 24:24Speaker 1: the same. Suspected food poisoning or gastroenteritis, which essentially is
- 24:29Speaker 1: an inflamed stomach and intestine, often from infection. But all
- 24:34Speaker 1: four patients were conscious and alert and able to talk.
- 24:38Speaker 1: And from his hospital bed, Don walked the doctors through
- 24:41Speaker 1: everything that happened at Saturday's lunch. But as he went on,
- 24:45Speaker 1: he kept going downhill and his lactate levels climbed dangerously high.
- 24:50Speaker 1: And his liver began failing, and signs of sepsis started
- 24:54Speaker 1: to set in. And doctors realized that gastroenteritis alone couldn't
- 24:58Speaker 1: explain what they were seeing. So toxicologists were consulted, and
- 25:02Speaker 1: the symptoms pointed toward a specific culprit. Amanita phalloids. Death
- 25:08Speaker 1: cap mushrooms. Now, death caps are behind more than 90%
- 25:12Speaker 1: of fatal mushroom poisonings worldwide, and they contain amatoxins, which
- 25:17Speaker 1: are heat stable. Or in other words, cooking does nothing
- 25:21Speaker 1: to neutralize them. So the poison makes its way to
- 25:24Speaker 1: the liver after ingestion, and it locks onto the cells
- 25:28Speaker 1: there and kills their ability to produce proteins. So the
- 25:32Speaker 1: cells literally die and the organ follows. And the poisoning
- 25:37Speaker 1: follows a very cruel pattern. First, violent stomach symptoms hit
- 25:42Speaker 1: within six to 24 hours of eating. Then the patient
- 25:46Speaker 1: seems to rally for roughly a day. And then three
- 25:49Speaker 1: to five days after ingestion, the liver collapses along with
- 25:53Speaker 1: other major organs afterwards. In other words, sepsis. And it
- 25:57Speaker 1: takes remarkably little to have a devastating effect. Just 0.1
- 26:03Speaker 1: milligrams per kilogram of body weight can be fatal. And
- 26:07Speaker 1: one mushroom can take down a grown person. And in
- 26:10Speaker 1: light of this discovery, the decision was made to move
- 26:14Speaker 1: all four patients to major hospitals in Melbourne. because the
- 26:17Speaker 1: rural facilities could not manage what was coming. Now, Erin
- 26:20Speaker 1: had told Simon she'd also been sick since Saturday night,
- 26:24Speaker 1: and she arrived at Leongatha Hospital on Monday morning at 8.05,
- 26:30Speaker 1: and then was transferred to Menash Clayton later that day,
- 26:33Speaker 1: but she would be discharged the next day. And six
- 26:37Speaker 1: days after the lunch, on August 4th, Gail and Heather
- 26:41Speaker 1: would pass away. Gail was 70 years old at the time,
- 26:45Speaker 1: And Heather was 66 years old. And she had still
- 26:48Speaker 1: been teaching that week, working with her English students right
- 26:52Speaker 1: up until the end. And doctors listed the cause as
- 26:55Speaker 1: liver dysfunction and cascading organ failure, all traced to Amanita
- 27:00Speaker 1: mushroom toxicity. And by the time they died, their medical
- 27:03Speaker 1: teams had already accepted that there was nothing more that
- 27:06Speaker 1: they could do. And Don would receive a liver transplant
- 27:09Speaker 1: in a last-ditch effort to help save him. But unfortunately,
- 27:13Speaker 1: it wouldn't be enough. And Simon would say, quote, sadly,
- 27:17Speaker 1: the rest of his body was already too sick to
- 27:19Speaker 1: go on past that point, unquote. And Ian nearly suffered
- 27:23Speaker 1: the same fate. And he had spent weeks in an
- 27:26Speaker 1: induced coma. And he would also receive a liver transplant
- 27:30Speaker 1: of his own. And he was taken off the ventilator
- 27:33Speaker 1: on August 14th. So 54 days passed between his admission
- 27:37Speaker 1: and and his release on September 23rd. And when news
- 27:41Speaker 1: came of his release, his family spoke publicly for the
- 27:44Speaker 1: first time, calling it a moment of immense relief and gratitude.
- 27:48Speaker 1: And the following Sunday, the Baptist Church congregation gathered to
- 27:51Speaker 1: support each other and pray for Ian's recovery. And local
- 27:55Speaker 1: mayor Nathan Hersey spoke for the town. And the three
- 27:58Speaker 1: who died, he said, were, quote, exceptional people who had
- 28:02Speaker 1: given generously to the local community. unquote. And counselor Jenny
- 28:06Speaker 1: Curie said, quote, we've lost a great store of kindness
- 28:09Speaker 1: in Corimbra this weekend, unquote. So on August 31st, the
- 28:14Speaker 1: memorial service for Don and Gail was held at Corimbra
- 28:17Speaker 1: Memorial Hall, and hundreds of mourners filled the space. And
- 28:21Speaker 1: tribute letters arrived from China, Botswana, and the United Kingdom,
- 28:25Speaker 1: all saying Don and Gail were the most capable, kindest,
- 28:29Speaker 1: and generous people they had ever met. And Simon stood
- 28:32Speaker 1: before the crowd and read Gail's final words. And she
- 28:35Speaker 1: had typed them from her bed at Dandingnong Hospital, one
- 28:39Speaker 1: last message to the family group chat, quote unquote, lots
- 28:42Speaker 1: of love to you all. And on October 4th, Heather
- 28:46Speaker 1: had her own memorial service. And more than 400 people
- 28:50Speaker 1: came to say goodbye. Ian stood among those mourners, frail
- 28:54Speaker 1: and still deep in recovery. And it was his first
- 28:57Speaker 1: public appearance since that lunch. The Victoria Police assigned its
- 29:01Speaker 1: homicide squad to the case on August 4th, 2023, the
- 29:06Speaker 1: same day Gail and Heather had passed away. And Detective
- 29:09Speaker 1: Sergeant Luke Farrell led the search of Patterson's Leangatha home
- 29:13Speaker 1: the following morning. And over the next three months, investigators
- 29:17Speaker 1: pulled at every single thread. And what they found dismantled
- 29:21Speaker 1: the picture. piece by piece. Now, the first alarm had
- 29:25Speaker 1: sounded at the hospital when Dr. Chris Webster told Erin
- 29:29Speaker 1: that Death Cat mushrooms may have been involved in her
- 29:32Speaker 1: guest's poisoning. And he asked what kind of mushrooms she'd
- 29:36Speaker 1: used in the meal. And she said Woolworth's, the supermarket chain.
- 29:39Speaker 1: And Death cat mushrooms are not sold in supermarkets, obviously.
- 29:43Speaker 1: And those kind of contradictions kept coming. And Erin's medical
- 29:47Speaker 1: results showed no clinical or biochemical evidence of Amanita poisoning.
- 29:53Speaker 1: And she had claimed to have eaten the same meal
- 29:56Speaker 1: as her guest's, and to have become ill, but her
- 29:59Speaker 1: blood work didn't reflect anything close to what the others
- 30:01Speaker 1: were showing. And even her presence at the hospital began
- 30:04Speaker 1: to look strange in retrospect. Nurse Cindy Monroe had treated
- 30:08Speaker 1: the other lunch guests and was now treating Erin, saying, quote,
- 30:12Speaker 1: she didn't look unwell like Ian and Heather. I recall
- 30:15Speaker 1: Ian being so unwell, he could barely lift his head
- 30:18Speaker 1: off the pillow. Erin was sitting up in bed in
- 30:21Speaker 1: the trolley, unquote. And Erin had stayed about five minutes
- 30:24Speaker 1: that Monday morning, despite her doctor's objections. She had gotten
- 30:28Speaker 1: up and just walked out, saying she needed to feed
- 30:31Speaker 1: the dogs and pack her daughter's ballet bag. And when
- 30:34Speaker 1: she failed to return in an agreed 20-minute window, a
- 30:37Speaker 1: concerned doctor at the hospital contacted police. And that was
- 30:41Speaker 1: the first time anyone in a position of authority had
- 30:44Speaker 1: treated the lunch as something other than a medical event.
- 30:48Speaker 1: And investigators began to suspect that her brief hospital appearance
- 30:51Speaker 1: had never been about getting treatment. It had been about
- 30:55Speaker 1: being seen as sick. And her behavior the day before
- 30:58Speaker 1: only reinforced the suspicion. So on Sunday, while Dawn and
- 31:02Speaker 1: Gail were on their way to Corimbra Hospital, while the
- 31:05Speaker 1: Wilkinsons were arriving at Leangatha, Erin had told Simon she'd
- 31:10Speaker 1: had diarrhea since Saturday night. And that same afternoon, she
- 31:14Speaker 1: had loaded her son into the car and driven him
- 31:17Speaker 1: to a flying lesson in Tyab. And the drive was
- 31:19Speaker 1: more than an hour each way. So after her transfer
- 31:23Speaker 1: to Menash Clayton, Simon's sister-in-law, Tanya, came to visit. And
- 31:27Speaker 1: Tanya told Aaron the others were going downhill quickly. And
- 31:32Speaker 1: Aaron pivoted. And she asked about taking her children on
- 31:36Speaker 1: a boat cruise. And Simon would later say that through
- 31:39Speaker 1: all of it, Aaron, quote unquote, never actually asked about
- 31:43Speaker 1: how his relatives were doing. And then there was the
- 31:46Speaker 1: question of the children. At the hospital, she had told
- 31:49Speaker 1: staff her kids had eaten leftover wellingtons, but she said
- 31:52Speaker 1: she'd scraped off all the mushroom before giving it to them.
- 31:56Speaker 1: And Nurse Monroe warned that toxins could have seeped straight
- 31:59Speaker 1: through the mushroom and into the beef. And Erin resisted
- 32:02Speaker 1: bringing the children in, saying, quote, they did not eat
- 32:05Speaker 1: the mushrooms. I just don't want them to be panicked
- 32:07Speaker 1: and stressed, unquote. She eventually agreed, and the children were
- 32:11Speaker 1: kept overnight and found not to be ill, luckily. So
- 32:15Speaker 1: the implication landed quietly. Erin, by her own account, had
- 32:19Speaker 1: already known which part of the food was dangerous, and
- 32:23Speaker 1: she had scraped it away from her children's portions. And
- 32:27Speaker 1: she went public with a story. And Erin told the
- 32:29Speaker 1: media that Beef Wellington's had contained store-bought mushrooms along with
- 32:33Speaker 1: dried ones from an Asian grocery shop somewhere around Mount Waverly. Quote,
- 32:38Speaker 1: I am now devastated to think that these mushrooms may
- 32:41Speaker 1: have contributed to the illness suffered by my loved ones, unquote,
- 32:44Speaker 1: she told the media. And she also addressed reporters in
- 32:47Speaker 1: a doorstep interview at the Leangatha home after police described
- 32:52Speaker 1: her as a suspect. saying, quote-unquote, I didn't do anything,
- 32:55Speaker 1: she said. I loved them. And health authorities moved quickly.
- 32:59Speaker 1: And over the course of a couple days, a City
- 33:02Speaker 1: of Menash public health officer named Troy Schankenecht hit every
- 33:06Speaker 1: Asian and Indian grocery store he could find in Oakley
- 33:10Speaker 1: and Clayton and Mount Waverly. And not one sold anything
- 33:14Speaker 1: matching her description. And she had no name for the shop.
- 33:18Speaker 1: and no address and no way to send investigators anywhere
- 33:21Speaker 1: near it. So it looked like the shop didn't really exist.
- 33:26Speaker 1: And then the footage surfaced and CCTV showed Aaron pulling
- 33:30Speaker 1: into the Coonwara transfer station on August 2nd, four days
- 33:36Speaker 1: after the lunch. So her guests were fighting for their
- 33:39Speaker 1: lives in intensive care units across Melbourne, and she was
- 33:42Speaker 1: at the local tip carrying a Sunbeam food dehydrator into
- 33:46Speaker 1: the electronics waste shed. And police would recover it from
- 33:50Speaker 1: the dump two days later, and her fingerprints were on
- 33:53Speaker 1: the device. And forensic testing found traces of death cap
- 33:57Speaker 1: mushroom inside. And her first response to detectives was flat denials.
- 34:02Speaker 1: She said she didn't own a food dehydrator, never had,
- 34:05Speaker 1: but her own friend had already given police screenshots from
- 34:10Speaker 1: a Facebook group conversation and the photos showed mushrooms arranged
- 34:14Speaker 1: across the trays of a dehydrator. Maybe if you're doing
- 34:21Speaker 1: something bad, don't post it on Facebook or do, you know,
- 34:24Speaker 1: it's good that she did. That's crazy. And she would
- 34:28Speaker 1: eventually have to admit the truth saying, quote, I knew
- 34:32Speaker 1: that there were photos in there of mushrooms and the dehydrator,
- 34:35Speaker 1: and I just panicked, unquote. And detectives identified two phones
- 34:39Speaker 1: in Patterson's possession. The first was the device she'd been
- 34:43Speaker 1: carrying in the weeks leading up to the lunch. And
- 34:45Speaker 1: the last time it appeared on any footage was a
- 34:48Speaker 1: hospital security camera on July 31st. And by the time
- 34:51Speaker 1: investigators got inside the Gibson Street house on August 5th,
- 34:55Speaker 1: the SIM card had already been pulled from that phone
- 34:58Speaker 1: and dropped into a Nokia. And the movement log put
- 35:01Speaker 1: the swap at 1 45 PM, which was while detectives
- 35:05Speaker 1: were still working their way through the rooms. And the
- 35:08Speaker 1: physical phone was never actually found. And the phone she
- 35:11Speaker 1: did hand over had been factory reset four separate times
- 35:16Speaker 1: during 2023. A little bit suspicious, I'd say. Sorry, that's
- 35:22Speaker 1: the last time I'm going to do it, I swear.
- 35:24Speaker 1: And once on August 2nd, the same day she drove
- 35:27Speaker 1: to the tip with the dehydrator. And once again, August 5th,
- 35:31Speaker 1: while police were conducting the search. And then once more
- 35:35Speaker 1: after investigators already had it in their possession. someone triggered
- 35:39Speaker 1: a remote wipe while it was sitting in an evidence room.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Detectives also seized her desktop computer. A forensic officer ran
- 35:46Speaker 1: keyword searches including death cap, death cap mushroom, and poison,
- 35:52Speaker 1: and the cached data turned up iNaturalist, a citizen science site.
- 35:57Speaker 1: And people log where they've spotted different species of plants
- 36:01Speaker 1: and fungi in the wild, including death caps. The trail
- 36:05Speaker 1: stretched back more than a year before the lunch. And
- 36:08Speaker 1: someone using that machine had gone looking for death cat
- 36:11Speaker 1: mushroom sightings around Moorabbin back in 2022. And when confronted,
- 36:16Speaker 1: Patterson said she couldn't recall visiting the site. And then added, quote, well,
- 36:20Speaker 1: somebody did. And that somebody could have been me, unquote.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Why are you even saying, just say you did it.
- 36:27Speaker 1: What do you put, okay. And her phone records pointed
- 36:30Speaker 1: in that same direction. And cell tower data placed her
- 36:33Speaker 1: device near the town of Outrim on May 22nd, 2023.
- 36:36Speaker 1: And the day before, a mushroom specialist had flagged a
- 36:40Speaker 1: death cap sighting on Nielsen Street through iNaturalist. The puzzle
- 36:45Speaker 1: pieces are puzzling together. And her phone also connected to
- 36:49Speaker 1: towers near the town of Locke on April 28th, around
- 36:52Speaker 1: the same time she purchased the Dehydrator. And photographs were
- 36:56Speaker 1: pulled from her tablet with photos of death caps sitting
- 37:00Speaker 1: right there on her kitchen scale. And it was photographed
- 37:04Speaker 1: like someone was measuring out portions. And as a cherry
- 37:09Speaker 1: on top, or should I say mushroom, The cancer she
- 37:12Speaker 1: disclosed to her guests that Saturday afternoon was all so fabricated.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Doctors went through her medical records and an intensive care
- 37:21Speaker 1: specialist couldn't find a single thing pointing to cancer. No diagnosis, nothing.
- 37:27Speaker 1: Erin's name was absent from the Victorian Cancer Registry. a
- 37:31Speaker 1: database that captures every cancer diagnosis in the state. And
- 37:34Speaker 1: the lump on her elbow, the very serious life-threatening condition,
- 37:38Speaker 1: the request for her family's guidance, the prayer they had
- 37:41Speaker 1: said over her, all of it built on a story
- 37:45Speaker 1: that had zero foundation. So the lunch itself began to
- 37:50Speaker 1: look pretty different too. And Simon told investigators that Erin
- 37:54Speaker 1: almost never hosted. He called guests at the Gibson Street
- 37:59Speaker 1: property very rare. And Heather and Ian had never set
- 38:03Speaker 1: foot there before that Saturday, hence why she gave them
- 38:06Speaker 1: a tour of the house. And if the family ever
- 38:09Speaker 1: got together, it was at somebody else's place. So the
- 38:12Speaker 1: effort she had poured into the meal, a week of preparation,
- 38:16Speaker 1: beef eye filet, individual wellingtons, now stood out against the
- 38:20Speaker 1: backdrop of someone who never had people over. And Ian's
- 38:24Speaker 1: account of that house tour came back too. Heather had
- 38:28Speaker 1: been particularly eager to see the pantry. and she had
- 38:31Speaker 1: a pantry project of her own at home and wanted
- 38:33Speaker 1: to see Aaron's layout. But according to Ian, Aaron had
- 38:36Speaker 1: been very reluctant about the visit to the pantry. And
- 38:40Speaker 1: then there was the plating. Heather and Gail had both
- 38:43Speaker 1: volunteered to help serve, and Aaron had turned them away.
- 38:47Speaker 1: And she plated every dish herself, but let them take
- 38:50Speaker 1: it out after she was done. And the plates became
- 38:53Speaker 1: evidence in their own right. Because the four guests had
- 38:56Speaker 1: been served on large gray plates. And Erin had carried
- 39:00Speaker 1: her own plate separately to the table. And hers was
- 39:03Speaker 1: a different color. It was like an orange tan color.
- 39:07Speaker 1: And Heather actually made note of it in the car
- 39:09Speaker 1: on the way to the hospital, that that was kind
- 39:12Speaker 1: of odd. So as the investigation widened, the woman behind
- 39:15Speaker 1: those clues began to come into focus. And almost nothing
- 39:19Speaker 1: about her matched what the Patterson family had thought they knew.
- 39:24Speaker 1: Investigators recovered private Facebook messages she'd sent to a circle
- 39:28Speaker 1: of online friends. And the child she had presented as
- 39:31Speaker 1: quietly middle class, she had described very differently in those messages, saying, quote,
- 39:37Speaker 1: Mom was essentially a cold robot, unquote, she had written. Unquote,
- 39:42Speaker 1: it was like being brought up in a Russian orphanage
- 39:45Speaker 1: where they don't touch babies, unquote. And she described her
- 39:48Speaker 1: father as a man who, quote, wanted to be warm
- 39:51Speaker 1: and loving to us, but mom wouldn't let him because
- 39:54Speaker 1: it would spoil us, so he did as he was told.
- 39:57Speaker 1: And she would shout at him if he did the
- 39:59Speaker 1: wrong thing, so he became very meek and compliant. and
- 40:02Speaker 1: my sister and I would hide in our room most
- 40:05Speaker 1: of the time so we couldn't do anything wrong, unquote.
- 40:09Speaker 1: And a neighbor who had known Heather Scudder for years
- 40:11Speaker 1: described her differently, saying, quote, a lovely woman, as was
- 40:16Speaker 1: her husband, unquote. So there's those two portraits, the public
- 40:20Speaker 1: one and the private one. They didn't match. And old
- 40:23Speaker 1: details took on a new weight. Because remember, Erin's parents
- 40:27Speaker 1: hadn't attended her wedding to Simon in 2007. And when
- 40:31Speaker 1: asked at the time, she had said they were on
- 40:35Speaker 1: a train in Russia. There was no other explanation other
- 40:38Speaker 1: than that, so we can safely assume she was not
- 40:40Speaker 1: remotely close with her parents. And then there was also
- 40:44Speaker 1: a documented history of deception that almost no one close
- 40:47Speaker 1: to her had heard about. Because in 2002, during her
- 40:50Speaker 1: brief career as an air traffic controller at Air Services Australia,
- 40:54Speaker 1: management had grown suspicious of her hours. And they had
- 40:57Speaker 1: reviewed security cameras in the employee car park, And she
- 41:00Speaker 1: had actually been clocking full shifts on paper while routinely
- 41:04Speaker 1: walking out early, which is horrifying to think about because
- 41:07Speaker 1: she's an air traffic controller in charge of hundreds of lives.
- 41:11Speaker 1: And when confronted, she just flat out denied it. And
- 41:14Speaker 1: then management ran her through the timestamps from the footage
- 41:18Speaker 1: one by one, and she couldn't really say anything otherwise.
- 41:22Speaker 1: And by November 2002, she no longer worked there. And
- 41:26Speaker 1: in 2004, she had been convicted of property damage and
- 41:29Speaker 1: multiple traffic offenses, using an unregistered vehicle on a highway,
- 41:35Speaker 1: failing to stop after an accident, and driving 35 kilometers
- 41:38Speaker 1: per hour over the speed limit. And her former co-workers
- 41:42Speaker 1: from the air traffic control tower, who had been guarded
- 41:45Speaker 1: in their earlier statements, began to speak more openly now.
- 41:50Speaker 1: The woman they described was far sharper edge than the
- 41:53Speaker 1: earlier impressions had let on. And one former colleague called
- 41:57Speaker 1: her a ritual habitual and pathological liar, who would just
- 42:03Speaker 1: say anything just to get away with anything. And others
- 42:07Speaker 1: were less measured, saying, quote, a bit strange or a loner,
- 42:12Speaker 1: someone who didn't engage with anyone very secretive about her family.
- 42:17Speaker 1: And multiple men in the tower had once been smitten
- 42:20Speaker 1: with her, and she managed to get guys wrapped around
- 42:23Speaker 1: her little finger, as one of them would put it.
- 42:27Speaker 1: And during her time at Air Services Australia... She had
- 42:30Speaker 1: earned a nickname among staff, which was quote-unquote Scudder the Nutter,
- 42:35Speaker 1: after her maiden name. And the manager, who once called
- 42:37Speaker 1: her smart, very smart, as we talked about before, had
- 42:41Speaker 1: added something to his fuller statement. Almost too smart. And
- 42:46Speaker 1: then there was the bookshop. Because for a stretch, in
- 42:49Speaker 1: 2011 and 2012, Erin had run a secondhand bookshop in Pemberton,
- 42:54Speaker 1: a tiny timber milling town in Western Australia. And the
- 42:57Speaker 1: shop had fed a long-running personal fascination of hers, true crime.
- 43:01Speaker 1: And she had been deeply interested in the genre for years,
- 43:06Speaker 1: reading widely, immersing herself deeply. in cases long before she
- 43:10Speaker 1: ever found herself at the center of one. And finally,
- 43:13Speaker 1: there was the relationship she had told everyone was loving
- 43:16Speaker 1: and warm. Investigators recovered another cluster of Facebook messages, and
- 43:20Speaker 1: these ones were about Dawn and Gail. And in late 2022,
- 43:25Speaker 1: a dispute over child support had cracked the surface of
- 43:28Speaker 1: the family, and Simon's tax return had listed him as separated,
- 43:33Speaker 1: something he blamed on a mistake from his accountant and
- 43:36Speaker 1: Aaron who quote-unquote, took great exception, and the change triggered
- 43:40Speaker 1: a formal process that upended the formal arrangements they had
- 43:43Speaker 1: kept for years around school fees and family expenses. So
- 43:47Speaker 1: the numbers made the sting feel worse, and Simon's child
- 43:49Speaker 1: support was assessed at $ 38 a month. Meanwhile, the change
- 43:54Speaker 1: in status cost Erin her eligibility for government family tax
- 43:58Speaker 1: benefit payments, roughly $ 15, 000 a year. because her inheritance put
- 44:03Speaker 1: her above the threshold once the formal process kicked in.
- 44:06Speaker 1: And even Simon recognized the gap. And he acknowledged that
- 44:09Speaker 1: the low assessment was likely why Erin had become so upset.
- 44:14Speaker 1: And there had also been the matter of Gail's 70th
- 44:16Speaker 1: birthday lunch at the Top Pub in Corimbra. And Erin
- 44:20Speaker 1: said the invitation she received had felt like it came
- 44:23Speaker 1: as an afterthought. So Don had picked up the phone
- 44:27Speaker 1: afterward and called her to talk it over. And he
- 44:29Speaker 1: called it an oversight and said he genuinely wanted her
- 44:32Speaker 1: at the table. And when the school fees fight intensified,
- 44:35Speaker 1: Erin had gone over Simon's head. And she had actually
- 44:39Speaker 1: taken it directly to Dawn and Gail, asking them to
- 44:41Speaker 1: help the two of them talk it out. Quote, I
- 44:44Speaker 1: thought that if Simon knew that Dawn and Gail knew
- 44:47Speaker 1: how he was behaving, he might change his behavior, unquote.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And Dawn has suggested she pray with Simon and withdraw
- 44:53Speaker 1: the child support claims. And Erin's reaction as she told
- 44:57Speaker 1: her Facebook friends, quote, my head nearly exploded and I
- 45:01Speaker 1: was like, what? And Dawn and Gail had eventually told
- 45:04Speaker 1: her they, quote, didn't want to get involved in financial matters, unquote.
- 45:08Speaker 1: And by December 2022, the friction had escalated to what
- 45:11Speaker 1: Simon called an extremely aggressive exchange and to the point
- 45:15Speaker 1: that he considered bringing in a mediator. And in private
- 45:19Speaker 1: messages to friends on Facebook, her frustration was unfiltered, saying, quote,
- 45:23Speaker 1: This family, I swear to God, I thought his parents
- 45:27Speaker 1: would want him to do the right thing, but it
- 45:29Speaker 1: seems their concern about not wanting to feel uncomfortable and
- 45:32Speaker 1: not wanting to get involved in their son's personal matters
- 45:35Speaker 1: are overriding that, so them. And she would later insist
- 45:39Speaker 1: the messages were nothing more than venting. Quote, I had
- 45:42Speaker 1: a good relationship with Dawn and Gail, unquote. And Simon's brother, Matthew,
- 45:47Speaker 1: had also noticed something. And Erin had stopped coming to
- 45:50Speaker 1: some family events entirely. And at others, she would barely stay.
- 45:54Speaker 1: And the warm Mother's Day text from May 2023, sent
- 45:58Speaker 1: three months before that devastating lunch, had been delivered against
- 46:02Speaker 1: a backdrop the Pattersons never knew existed. She was starting
- 46:05Speaker 1: to try to build up that relationship again to make
- 46:08Speaker 1: them want to come to a lunch that she was
- 46:10Speaker 1: eventually going to host. So it was just a long
- 46:14Speaker 1: game for Aaron. So on the morning of November 2nd, 2023,
- 46:19Speaker 1: police arrived at Aaron's door with technology detector dogs, trained
- 46:23Speaker 1: to locate hidden electronics like USB drives. I didn't know
- 46:26Speaker 1: these existed. That's awesome. And Erin was placed under arrest.
- 46:31Speaker 1: And Homicide Squad Detective Inspector Dean Thomas acknowledged the case
- 46:34Speaker 1: had been subjected to incredibly intense levels of public scrutiny.
- 46:38Speaker 1: And she was charged with three counts of murder for
- 46:40Speaker 1: the deaths of Dawn Patterson, Gail Patterson, and Heather Wilkinson.
- 46:44Speaker 1: And five counts of attempted murder were filed alongside them.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Two related to that July lunch. One for Ian Wilkinson,
- 46:51Speaker 1: who had survived. And one for Simon, who had been invited...
- 46:55Speaker 1: but stayed home. And now we realize why he stayed home,
- 46:58Speaker 1: because they were not getting along at all. And the
- 47:02Speaker 1: other three alleged she had attempted to murder Simon on
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- 48:34Speaker 1: And let's get back to it. So the trial opened
- 48:36Speaker 1: on April 29th, 2025 inside the Supreme Court of Victoria,
- 48:41Speaker 1: sitting at the Latrobe Valley Courts in Morwell. And the
- 48:44Speaker 1: courtroom sat in a small town. The home where the
- 48:47Speaker 1: lunch had taken place was less than an hour's drive away.
- 48:51Speaker 1: And Justice Christopher Beal presided. And before the first witness
- 48:54Speaker 1: was called, the charges had already shifted. And prosecutors dropped
- 48:59Speaker 1: every count connected to Simon Patterson. And the three attempted
- 49:03Speaker 1: murder charges alleging she had poisoned him on separate occasions
- 49:06Speaker 1: in 2021 and 2022 were now gone. And so was
- 49:10Speaker 1: the charge that she had tried to kill him at
- 49:13Speaker 1: the July lunch. But what remained was the three counts
- 49:16Speaker 1: of murder for Dawn Patterson, Gail Patterson, and Heather Wilkinson.
- 49:21Speaker 1: One count of attempted murder for Ian Wilkinson. And Erin
- 49:25Speaker 1: pleaded not guilty to all charges because she's an evil
- 49:29Speaker 1: piece of shit, as we now know. And the evidence
- 49:31Speaker 1: phase alone consumed seven weeks, followed by six days of
- 49:35Speaker 1: closing arguments and six and a half days behind the
- 49:38Speaker 1: jury room door. And over those weeks, the courtroom heard
- 49:41Speaker 1: two entirely different versions of the same woman. Prosecutor Nanette
- 49:46Speaker 1: Rogers SC built her case around what she called Four
- 49:50Speaker 1: calculated deceptions. First, a fabricated cancer diagnosis invented to lure
- 49:56Speaker 1: the victims to a table. Second, death cap mushrooms placed
- 50:00Speaker 1: into the Beep Wellingtons in quantities meant to kill. And
- 50:04Speaker 1: Rogers pointed to the photographs recovered from Patterson's tablet, which
- 50:07Speaker 1: were death caps on a set of kitchen scales. Doesn't
- 50:10Speaker 1: get much more guilty than that. And fungi specialist Tom
- 50:13Speaker 1: May had examined them and identified the mushrooms as amanita phalloids,
- 50:17Speaker 1: quote unquote, with a high level of confidence. And Rogers
- 50:21Speaker 1: argued Patterson had weighed the mushrooms to calculate the weight
- 50:24Speaker 1: required for the administration of fatal dose for one person
- 50:28Speaker 1: and the weight required for five fatal doses for five people, unquote.
- 50:33Speaker 1: And third, a staged hospital visit meant to mimic poisoning
- 50:37Speaker 1: symptoms she never had. And fourth, weeks of deliberate evidence
- 50:42Speaker 1: destruction designed to keep anyone from finding out what she
- 50:46Speaker 1: had done. The definition of premeditation is, and post-tampering. And
- 50:52Speaker 1: then Erin took the stand, and she testified for eight days.
- 50:58Speaker 1: She gave ground where she had to. Death cap mushrooms
- 51:02Speaker 1: must have been in the meal, because she had foraged
- 51:05Speaker 1: for wild mushrooms since 2019. And she had bought the dehydrator,
- 51:09Speaker 1: then dumped it while her guests fought for their lives.
- 51:13Speaker 1: And the cancer announcement was a fabrication. and she had
- 51:16Speaker 1: factory reset her phone to hide photos of mushrooms and
- 51:19Speaker 1: the dehydrator, and the hostile Facebook messages about Dawn and
- 51:22Speaker 1: Gale were hers, though she dismissed them as simply venting.
- 51:27Speaker 1: But on everything else, she held firm. She had never
- 51:30Speaker 1: deliberately sought out death cap mushrooms, and she had never
- 51:33Speaker 1: traveled to Locke to collect them, and she had never
- 51:36Speaker 1: used iNaturalist to track where they grew... And she never
- 51:40Speaker 1: weighed them to calculate a fatal dose. And on the
- 51:43Speaker 1: cancer claim, she offered an alternative. She had led the
- 51:46Speaker 1: group to believe she might be needing some treatment, she said.
- 51:50Speaker 1: But the real issue had been an embarrassment over a
- 51:53Speaker 1: gastric bypass consultation. And prosecutor Rogers pressed her. And she
- 51:57Speaker 1: suggested Aaron had never planned to account for the cancer
- 52:00Speaker 1: story because she had never expected to need to, quote,
- 52:05Speaker 1: because you thought that the lunch guests would die, unquote.
- 52:08Speaker 1: And quote, unquote, that's not true. Aaron would answer, but
- 52:12Speaker 1: it is. You felt like you didn't have to account
- 52:14Speaker 1: for any of this because you thought all of your
- 52:17Speaker 1: victims would die. But luckily, one did not. And thank
- 52:21Speaker 1: goodness he didn't. And the prosecution also called Simon Patterson
- 52:25Speaker 1: to the stand. And he walked the jury through the
- 52:28Speaker 1: crumbling marriage, the private hostility, and the night he had
- 52:31Speaker 1: turned down the lunch invitation. And then Ian Wilkinson testified
- 52:36Speaker 1: as well, the only person who had eaten the mushrooms
- 52:39Speaker 1: at that table and survived. And he recounted the gray plates,
- 52:43Speaker 1: the odd colored plate Erin had carried to her own seat,
- 52:47Speaker 1: and the offer to help serve that she had turned away.
- 52:51Speaker 1: And he described Aaron as someone who, quote, And the
- 52:54Speaker 1: relationship had been, quote, unquote, And he told the court
- 52:57Speaker 1: what he had told the police. He had been happy
- 53:08Speaker 1: about the lunch invitation, hopeful it might improve the relationship
- 53:12Speaker 1: with Aaron. Defense counsel Colin Mandy SC offered a simpler story.
- 53:17Speaker 1: What happened was a tragedy, a terrible accident. Aaron's lies,
- 53:22Speaker 1: he argued, had been born from shock, not planning. She
- 53:26Speaker 1: panicked because she was overwhelmed by the fact that these
- 53:29Speaker 1: four people had become so ill because of the food
- 53:31Speaker 1: that she'd served them. Not buying it, but keep going.
- 53:35Speaker 1: And on motive, he pointed to its absence. She had
- 53:39Speaker 1: no money issues, lived in a big house, and had
- 53:42Speaker 1: almost full-time custody of her two young children. But in
- 53:45Speaker 1: the closing, Rogers, the prosecutor, told the jury they did
- 53:49Speaker 1: not need to know why. Quote, you do not have
- 53:52Speaker 1: to be satisfied what the motive was or even that
- 53:56Speaker 1: there was one, unquote. The why was unnecessary to convict.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Because guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, doesn't necessarily mean that
- 54:04Speaker 1: they have to have a motive. There just needs to
- 54:06Speaker 1: be evidence as to if they did it, right? Motive helps,
- 54:10Speaker 1: but it is not necessary. So on July 7th, 2025,
- 54:14Speaker 1: the jury came back and all 12 members were in agreement.
- 54:19Speaker 1: Guilty on every count. Just a round of applause for
- 54:25Speaker 1: that jury. Three murders, one attempted murder, and media crews
- 54:29Speaker 1: flooded the courthouse within minutes. And by then, the trial
- 54:33Speaker 1: had become an international story. And sentencing came on September 8th,
- 54:37Speaker 1: and Justice Beal handed down three concurrent life sentences for
- 54:41Speaker 1: murder and 25 years for attempted murder. And the non-parole
- 54:45Speaker 1: period was 33 years. And Erin, at this point, was
- 54:49Speaker 1: 50 years old. And she won't be eligible for parole
- 54:52Speaker 1: until 2056, when she'll be in her 80s. And Beale
- 54:57Speaker 1: called her crimes, quote, And he identified five aggravating factors.
- 55:08Speaker 1: substantial premeditation, an elaborate cover-up, a lack of pity, and
- 55:13Speaker 1: the suffering of her victims and the betrayal of trust.
- 55:16Speaker 1: And she had said nothing to the doctors fighting to
- 55:19Speaker 1: save her guests. And never once she revealed what she
- 55:23Speaker 1: had put in their food. Quote, unquote. And her complete
- 55:26Speaker 1: absence of remorse, he added, quote, pour salt into all
- 55:41Speaker 1: the victim's wounds, unquote. And the hearing ran almost 50
- 55:44Speaker 1: minutes and was broadcast live. And the court received 28
- 55:48Speaker 1: victim impact statements. Seven were read aloud. and Simon was
- 55:53Speaker 1: absent from the hearing. And a relative read his words
- 55:56Speaker 1: to the court. Quote, his children have been robbed of
- 55:59Speaker 1: hope for the kind of relationship with their mother that
- 56:01Speaker 1: every child naturally yearns for, unquote. And Ruth Dubois, one
- 56:05Speaker 1: of the Wilkinsons' daughters, named the broader victims. Medical staff, investigators,
- 56:10Speaker 1: shop owners, mushroom growers, the health department, and taxpayers all
- 56:15Speaker 1: pulled into the aftermath. Quote, I am horrified that our
- 56:18Speaker 1: family is even associated with through no choice of our own,
- 56:22Speaker 1: with such destructive behavior towards the community, unquote. And Erin
- 56:26Speaker 1: gave almost nothing away. And for most of the hearing,
- 56:29Speaker 1: her eyes were closed. And when they were open, she
- 56:32Speaker 1: looked at nothing. Because she is nothing. She's just an
- 56:36Speaker 1: evil shit stain in this world, who I hope is
- 56:40Speaker 1: having a terrible time rotting in jail. And Ian Wilkinson
- 56:45Speaker 1: may have survived the lunch, but his body never came
- 56:48Speaker 1: back to the way it had been before. And his
- 56:50Speaker 1: liver function remains diminished, And respiratory problems followed him out
- 56:55Speaker 1: of the hospital and never left. And he lives in Victoria,
- 56:58Speaker 1: supported by the same church community that had held him
- 57:01Speaker 1: up for decades. And he lost his wife of 44 years.
- 57:05Speaker 1: And he lost the couple he had described as the
- 57:08Speaker 1: closest people to him after his wife and family. And quote,
- 57:12Speaker 1: my life is greatly impoverished without them. And he told
- 57:15Speaker 1: the court, quote, it's a truly horrible thought to live
- 57:19Speaker 1: with that somebody could decide to take her life. I
- 57:22Speaker 1: only feel half alive without her, unquote. Oh my God.
- 57:30Speaker 1: It's just so heartbreaking. I just, I don't understand how
- 57:33Speaker 1: someone could take somebody away. Like that. It's just, it's
- 57:38Speaker 1: so devastating. And when given the chance to speak about
- 57:40Speaker 1: the woman who poisoned him, he chose an unexpected path.
- 57:45Speaker 1: And that path was forgiveness. And he offered it publicly
- 57:48Speaker 1: and carefully, but only what was his to give. Because
- 57:52Speaker 1: he could forgive the harm that was done to him.
- 57:54Speaker 1: What had been done to the others, he said, was
- 57:56Speaker 1: beyond his power to absolve. And he had one prayer
- 57:59Speaker 1: for Erin. And that was, quote, that she will use
- 58:02Speaker 1: her time in jail wisely to become a better person.
- 58:06Speaker 1: And outside the courthouse, after it was done, he spoke
- 58:09Speaker 1: to the press. And he thanked the police and the
- 58:11Speaker 1: hospital workers for their efforts. And then he said what
- 58:14Speaker 1: mattered to him most. Quote, I'd like to encourage all
- 58:18Speaker 1: those involved to keep turning up and serving others. Our
- 58:21Speaker 1: lives and the life of our community depends on the
- 58:24Speaker 1: kindness of others, unquote. Aaron and Simon's two children live
- 58:28Speaker 1: under a legal suppression order, and their identities are sealed
- 58:31Speaker 1: from public view, but they're believed to be in their
- 58:33Speaker 1: father's care. And court records noted they had, quote, settled
- 58:37Speaker 1: into a new school better than expected, unquote. And Simon's
- 58:41Speaker 1: victim impact statement noted that his children live in an
- 58:44Speaker 1: irreparably broken home with only a solo parent. When almost
- 58:48Speaker 1: everyone else knows their mother murdered their grandparents. And the
- 58:52Speaker 1: media hasn't let them breathe. And the Patterson and Wilkinson
- 58:55Speaker 1: family still carry the lasting damage of what happened. And
- 58:59Speaker 1: one of the victim impact statements came from Dawn Patterson's mother.
- 59:03Speaker 1: She was 100 years old. She outlived her own son.
- 59:07Speaker 1: So Erin is serving her sentence, at the Dame Phyllis
- 59:11Speaker 1: Frost Center, a maximum security women's prison in Melbourne. And
- 59:15Speaker 1: she spends at least 22 hours of every day inside
- 59:18Speaker 1: her cell. But the case isn't over, and two appeals
- 59:22Speaker 1: sit before the Victorian Court of Appeal. And Erin filed
- 59:25Speaker 1: them on November 3rd, 2025, seeking to have the guilty
- 59:28Speaker 1: verdicts quashed and a retrial ordered. The point at the
- 59:32Speaker 1: center of her case is during deliberations, the jury panel
- 59:36Speaker 1: was booked into the same accommodation where police and members
- 59:39Speaker 1: of the prosecution team were also staying. And she argues
- 59:43Speaker 1: that arrangement alone constituted a fundamental irregularity that fatally undermined
- 59:49Speaker 1: the integrity of the verdicts. And she raised multiple grounds,
- 59:53Speaker 1: challenges to the phone tower evidence and iNaturalist data linking
- 59:57Speaker 1: her to death cap mushroom locations. a claim that Facebook
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: messages from her private group should have been excluded from
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: the trial, and an argument Justice Beal aired by refusing
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: to admit images and videos from an SD card found
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: at her home, and an allegation of unfair and oppressive
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: cross-examination by the prosecutor, and a charge that the prosecution
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: shifted its position on motive between its opening and closing addresses,
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: having opened with no motive and then implied one. The
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: prosecution filed its own appeal earlier on October 6, 2025,
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: arguing the sentence was manifestly inadequate. And prosecutors contend Justice
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Beal erred in finding a substantial chance Aaron would remain
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: in solitary confinement for years, and that this finding infected
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: his assessment of the non-parole period. Both sides must first
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: seek leave to appeal. Three court of appeal judges will
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: hear both if leave is granted. And if Erin's appeal succeeds,
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: the court may acquit her or send the case back
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: for retrial, which is insane to think. And if the
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: prosecution's appeal succeeds, the court can impose a longer non-parole
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: period or order a re-sentencing, which would probably be good
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: because I feel like her sentencing wasn't adequate enough. But
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: as of early 2026, no date has been set. And
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: after the verdict, a gag order was lifted and testimony
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: Simon had given at pretrial hearing became public. And he
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: said he had turned down the lunch invitation because he
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: believed she would poison him. And he described falling severely
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: ill after eating food she had prepared on prior occasions.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: A penne bolognese pasta, a chicken korma curry, and a
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: vegetable curry wrap. But the jury never heard any of it.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: And then there's the question that sits at the center
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: of everything and has no answer, which is why. Prosecutors
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: never offered a motive whatsoever. And they told the jury
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: they didn't need one, which they don't. And Justice Beal
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: wouldn't speculate. But there were frustrations. There were financial disputes.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: The slow erosion of a marriage and the sharper edges
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: that followed. But none of it explains the leap from
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: resentment to poisoning an entire family. But she planned for months,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: as we saw, tracked where death caps grew online, drove
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: to the locations, bought a dehydrator, weighed the mushrooms on
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: a kitchen scale, and folded them into a meal for
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: people who loved her. Justice Beale found she intended to
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: kill Simon too, had he shown up. Five intended victims.
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: And when they started dying, she said nothing. She has
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: never explained it. and she may never explain it. But
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: Ian Wilkinson asked the only question worth asking, which was,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: foolishness possesses a person to think that murder could be
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: the solution to their problems, especially the murder of people
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: who have only good intentions towards her. A question no
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: one can answer. And with that, that is the end
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: of the mushroom murder case. As always, my heart goes
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: out to the family. And I hope true justice is
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: served and the prosecution's appeal goes forward. But let me
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: know what other cases you would like me to dive into.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: I always read the comments. And until next time, please
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: stay safe out there and I will see your beautiful
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: face in the next one. Okay.