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Ian Furness 10/14 H2: Injuries, the battle for the NFC West, Stewart Mandel and the Daily Power Play! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: before the day before. That would have been yesterday, which
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  Speaker 2: day before. That's right. The CX kickoff week six in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL Thursday night game in Denver tomorrow night. Five o'clock. Charbonnet, Williams,
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  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas all limited yesterday. Seahawks targeting Week 7 for
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  Speaker 2: a Charbonnet return. Broncos update coming up in just a
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  Speaker 2: couple seconds. You'll like it, Seahawks fans. Trust me. Cracking
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  Speaker 2: to continue their hot road trip. 3-for-3 so far. Third
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  Speaker 2: last night. Billy Odovinan got his first ever goal in
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  Speaker 2: the shootout game winner, Grubauer, was great. He was also
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  Speaker 2: a little spicy last night. We'll hear from him coming
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  Speaker 2: up at 145 Daily Power Play. Good stuff from Gruby. Tomorrow, Tampa,
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  Speaker 2: In the bento box at 3.30. Hopefully we get another
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  Speaker 2: headsets off. When we get the headsets off post this,
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  Speaker 2: that's a win. That means it's a crackin' win. We've
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  Speaker 2: got three straight of those.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Network Central, 3.30. Tampa Bay, as the captain will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: they're a little bit different animal than they've seen so
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  Speaker 2: far on this road trip. They're good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not quite the winless Flyers.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Or the dumpster fire that is
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  Speaker 2: the Detroit Red Wings. Okay, MLB playoffs continue tonight. Game 3, NLCS.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. Baseball playoffs are still going on.
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  Speaker 3: Which is weird.
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  Speaker 2: If I asked our listeners, and it's not even fair
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  Speaker 2: enough because I already brought this up, who are the
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  Speaker 2: four teams left? How many people would get it right
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  Speaker 2: off the top of the head?
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people would just guess the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know that they'd know the other three.
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers, Yankees, Rays... Padres?
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  Speaker 1: Brewers?
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  Speaker 5: Huh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. NLCS is the Brewers and the Dodgers. Brewers hold
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  Speaker 2: a two-game-to-none lead over the series. Shohei Otani is in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup, but he's been awful. 150 average, three hits,
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  Speaker 2: a 411 OPS. Has not hit a home run since mid-August.
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  Speaker 3: That's incredible. I thought he was like bionic superhuman, couldn't
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  Speaker 3: ever fail.
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  Speaker 2: He is, but the bionics are off. He's hurt.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Allegedly.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, oh no, that's fine. He should still play.
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  Speaker 2: Why not? Tomorrow's ALCS game. Three. Moved up five hours.
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  Speaker 2: 10 a.m. Pacific time start. Rain, weather, bad stuff going
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  Speaker 2: on in Cleveland. Shocking in October that's taking place. Series
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  Speaker 2: is tied one game apiece. Rays 3-1 win last night
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  Speaker 2: in Tampa. Mariners looking for a new manager. Astros will
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  Speaker 2: be as well. They parted ways with their guy Joe
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  Speaker 2: Espada after three seasons. Took him to the playoffs this year.
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  Speaker 2: Never won a playoff series. Mariners have already talked to
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  Speaker 2: him reportedly about their opening. Interesting. Tom Malley is going
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  Speaker 2: to stay in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Hour two of the show. Well, here's the good news
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  Speaker 2: if you're a Seahawks fan. First of all, injury reports
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  Speaker 2: mean nothing. These guys are just going through walkthroughs this week.
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  Speaker 2: So you're just like, let's find out tomorrow what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: But we do know this for the Broncos. This is good.
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  Speaker 2: Their two best defensive backs are out.
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  Speaker 3: That's very good for us.
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  Speaker 2: Very, very good. Patrick Sertan and Talona Hufunga both out
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  Speaker 2: of the game. That's a good thing for us in Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: That's a really good thing. So we like that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know the exact health of JSN. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know the exact health of Drake Thomas. We believe Leonard
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  Speaker 2: Williams is fine. He played last week. We know Charbonnet
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  Speaker 2: is not going to play. We would expect to see
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  Speaker 2: Robert Henry Jr. because Valus Jones was cut, then re-signed
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  Speaker 2: to the practice squad immediately.
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  Speaker 3: We better see Robert Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, he was a guy that was projected to be
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  Speaker 2: a day three draft pick, was undrafted, and got all
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  Speaker 2: the way through to undrafted free agent, practice squad with
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  Speaker 2: the commanders, not active. But you've got to try something different.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody out here believes him to be
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  Speaker 2: the answer. necessarily to all that ills the running game,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to give him a chance because you
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  Speaker 2: know what you get in Wilson. You know what you
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  Speaker 2: have in Helani. The only reason Bayless Jones has even
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  Speaker 2: been mentioned is because Jakartier Wright's hurt, and he's on
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad injury reserve. Otherwise, he'd be the No.
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  Speaker 2: 3 guy. I'm confident of that. But even he's just
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  Speaker 2: probably just a guy. So you might as well give
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  Speaker 2: another just a guy a chance in Henry. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about it. We'll talk about it on tomorrow's
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  Speaker 2: show with Ross Tucker. We'll talk about it as well
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  Speaker 2: with Palazzolo. I mean, what they want to do in
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  Speaker 2: terms of having us. And you heard Lund, all the
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  Speaker 2: other nonsense with Lund aside, I thought was really interesting
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  Speaker 2: when he said talking to somebody in the 49ers organization,
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  Speaker 2: he said, hey, they knew the Seahawks could not run
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  Speaker 2: wide what they wanted to do because they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the speed at the running back position. That makes it
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  Speaker 2: pretty easy to defend.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure does. One-dimensional.
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  Speaker 2: Makes it easy. Makes it a lot harder on Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold. The reality is this. If you lose and
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  Speaker 2: you're Seattle, you lose. You're now basically four games back
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  Speaker 2: of the 49ers with one chance to get one back
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  Speaker 2: when you play at San Francisco.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But they're going to be 6-0. You could be 3-3. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's three games, but you've lost one. You're effectively four back.
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  Speaker 2: You'd also, you've got to start winning some conference games.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a conference game tomorrow, but you're 1-2
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  Speaker 2: in the conference. That's a tiebreaker. So right now, Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: Detroit both have the same record as you, but they
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  Speaker 2: hold the tiebreaker because of the conference record. So you've
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  Speaker 2: got to start winning your conference games. The next two
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  Speaker 2: weeks are non-conference games or AFC opponents because Kansas City's
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  Speaker 2: after this. But Ashley, I'm telling you, this team has
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  Speaker 2: got to find a way.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They have got to find a way.
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  Speaker 6: And.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow is immense. You can live with four and two.
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  Speaker 2: You're not thrilled. You were three and two last year.
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  Speaker 2: You went to Jacksonville, got a win. The math is
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  Speaker 2: the math in the National Football League. That second column
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  Speaker 2: means everything. Everything. And you start getting into the four, five,
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  Speaker 2: and six range, you're A, not going to win a division.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to have home field advantage. But B,
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  Speaker 2: you're starting to flirt with disaster as far as the
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  Speaker 2: wild card.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the most disappointing things in Seattle sports
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  Speaker 2: could or would be, I think we would all agree,
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  Speaker 2: if the defending Super Bowl champions don't even get back
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  Speaker 2: to the postseason. So Denver and Kansas City, 4-2, 5-2,
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  Speaker 2: you feel pretty good after that. If you're being realistic,
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  Speaker 2: a 3-4 record is very possible the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it is.
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  Speaker 4: One thing, though, it's interesting. So it says on ESPN
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  Speaker 4: that we're 1-2 in the conference, but we're 1-1, right?
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  Speaker 4: We lost to San Francisco and beat Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: Lost to the Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: They're not in our conference.
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  Speaker 2: Conference, not division conference, NFC.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, division, got it. I was like, what? Oh, yeah, conference. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: thank you.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I was like, wait, where's my math not mathing?
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  Speaker 4: But I do think, like, I just... Tomorrow seems like
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  Speaker 4: a really big game, too, for us to just not
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  Speaker 4: beat ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: How about play well?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just stop kicking yourselves in the face.
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  Speaker 2: Big game for Sam Darnold, too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just, there is so much angst and
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  Speaker 2: stress right now on so many levels. So, yeah, it's a.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. Ugh.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I wanted to get to this because this
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  Speaker 2: is just– okay, I'll bite. Oh, gosh. I'll bite.
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  Speaker 3: I'm nervous for this.
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  Speaker 2: So the most hated person in the Big Ten. This
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  Speaker 2: poll came out. There's this Twitter account, West Coast Football.
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  Speaker 2: Every one of us follows it. But it's from the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten huddle. I'm just going to throw this out there.
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  Speaker 2: Most hated person in the Big Ten. Who do you
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  Speaker 2: think it is, player or coach?
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  Speaker 3: It's definitely a coach.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And I would– I mean– The way you're setting this
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  Speaker 4: up makes me think differently, but I would go with
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  Speaker 4: Dan Lanning.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you're wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You're wrong by 17 spots.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: He is 17th.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is a stupid poll. Would they just poll
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  Speaker 3: Duck fans?
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  Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's one.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, duh.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, I would put him second. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I can handle that being first.
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  Speaker 1: P.J.
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  Speaker 2: Fleck is two.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Roll the boat.
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  Speaker 6: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really... I.
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  Speaker 2: Think he's kind of... Who cares?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: That's my thought.
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  Speaker 2: You're the coach at Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but sure.
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood is three. Greg Sciano is four. DeMond Williams
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  Speaker 2: is five.
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  Speaker 7: Really?
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  Speaker 2: So the highest ranked player on the most hated person
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  Speaker 2: list is DeMond Williams. I think that's unfair. That's just me.
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  Speaker 2: But here's what I get, because you bring that up.
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  Speaker 2: The one I don't get, because most of his coaches,
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  Speaker 2: James Franklin, Luke Fickle, Matt Campbell, Michael Oxley, that's just
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  Speaker 2: all Maryland fans voting for that because they won and fired.
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  Speaker 2: Dante Moore is 10. Pat Fitzgerald, why? He's at Michigan State.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares? He was the coach, but it's been proven
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  Speaker 2: that he really wasn't involved with the stuff that happened
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  Speaker 2: at Northwestern. Josh Hoover, the quarterback at Indiana, is 12.
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  Speaker 2: Jed Fish is 13. Really? Ahead of Dan Lanning. That's
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  Speaker 2: where I'm going to defend the Huskies. That's where I've
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  Speaker 2: got to defend the Huskies. How is Dan Lanning behind
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  Speaker 2: both Jed Fish and Devon Williams? And the funny thing is,
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  Speaker 2: they have James Franklin in there. He didn't coach in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say, and Josh Hoover. What's
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  Speaker 3: that guy done to anyone?
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  Speaker 2: Just win games at Indiana.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it myself. I don't get it. How
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  Speaker 2: is Matt? Yeah, Ryan Day's not even on this list.
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  Speaker 2: Don't we all hate Ryan Day?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought people did. I know Michigan did.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. He's 15.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so he's ahead of Dan Lanning.
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  Speaker 2: He's ahead of Dan Lanning. Dan Lanning to me is
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  Speaker 2: the most unlikable guy in football.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Lane Kiffin would probably be most unlikable in football,
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  Speaker 4: but Dan Lanning.
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  Speaker 2: If we're doing a bracket, they're both one-seeds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to the championships.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Jed may be a one-seed in some people's mind.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's purple and gold blinders, but you don't
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  Speaker 4: have those on.
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  Speaker 2: Why am I defending Jed Fish and DeMond Williams?
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I hate Dan Lanning. I'm so down with him. I
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  Speaker 2: can't tell you how jacked I was at the casino
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday watching that game. And I didn't even have
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  Speaker 2: juice on it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because I would have put juice. I thought about going
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  Speaker 2: sicko mode and going live bet with Oregon coming back.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Aren't you glad you didn't, though?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad I didn't. I'm so glad I didn't. But, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I would like to know who they polled for this poll.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. A lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: I think what they did was not poll.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Reddit thing, too.
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  Speaker 3: Anyone outside of Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: Do we like Reddit?
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  Speaker 5: Is Reddit good?
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  Speaker 3: I don't really.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really use Reddit other than when someone finds
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  Speaker 4: the story and then shares it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I use it for recipes.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, do you?
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  Speaker 3: Reddit recipes. I've never done that.
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  Speaker 2: They're on there.
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  Speaker 3: I find a lot on Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: I save them all. Yeah, big Instagram recipe guy for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Because then you get to see it being cooked and
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  Speaker 3: then it makes me really hungry.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Especially if it's like Giada doing it and I love it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Big Giada fan.
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  Speaker 2: Kidding me? How could you not be?
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  Speaker 3: She's adorable.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she can't dance, but I don't care. Neither
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  Speaker 2: can I.
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  Speaker 3: See, there you go. Two peas in a pod.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well. She hasn't returned my calls lately, so it's
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  Speaker 2: so weird.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have to talk to her.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk a little college football. Our guy, Stuart Mandell,
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  Speaker 2: massive weekend coming up. We'll also get his thoughts on
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Welcome back in. Our good
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  Speaker 2: Stuart Mandel talking all things college football. Stu, first of all,
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: two things. One, I appreciate the shout-out on the podcast
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  Speaker 2: last week. Second of all, I apologize because you took
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: my coogs in your upset pick over Utah State. It
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  Speaker 2: looked great for about 58 minutes of that game. Unfortunately,
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: they do play 60. There is a term that is
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: used in this state. I hate it. I don't even
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  Speaker 2: want to use it on the air, but I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to because you wrote about Huskered it, right? Is it
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  Speaker 2: Huskered it?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm trying to make that– I coined it,
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  Speaker 8: and hopefully it'll spread.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we call it Couged it out here, too. So
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  Speaker 2: it's an unfortunate thing. But, yeah, I appreciate it. They
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  Speaker 2: are changing the quarterback, so that's a good thing. We'll
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  Speaker 2: hit that later with Alex and MK and see what
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: happens going against the freshman version of Jeremiah Smith this
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  Speaker 2: weekend in Legree. I'm a little worried about that one, Stu.
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  Speaker 8: You should be a lot worried about that. He's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 8: He's a true freshman. that nobody saw coming who is
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  Speaker 8: leading the country even higher than Jeremiah Smith in every
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  Speaker 8: receiving category.
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  Speaker 5: Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Good times. We'll worry about that on Saturday. It's
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  Speaker 2: actually a great Saturday, which I'm going to get to
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  Speaker 2: in a second. One of the things I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: bring up with my wazoo guys, when we do our
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  Speaker 2: weekly and for those joining us, usually we do a
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  Speaker 2: lot of college football Tuesday with Alex Brink and Crystal Bruce.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have those guys on today because we
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: have short shows this week with the cracking yesterday, but
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  Speaker 2: the importance of head coaches and coaching in college football
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  Speaker 2: and It's a really big topic, but I'll narrow it
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  Speaker 2: down to this because you wrote about it in the mailbag,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's interesting. My goodness, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: question was asked by somebody, you know, is Sark in
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  Speaker 2: trouble if they go, what, 9-3 or something at Texas? And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we could spread that all across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Is patience with coaches in college football these days at
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  Speaker 2: an all-time low, and is that because a couple things? One,
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  Speaker 2: the money being invested, but two— We do see guys
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  Speaker 2: coming in, Chesney at UCLA and across the country, what
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Stein did last week and different things, having immediate success.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Is the patience at an all-time low in college football
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: with fans and boosters?
• 14:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely. I mean, Kurt Cignetti basically ruined it for everybody, right?
• 14:29
  Speaker 8: You can come in and win big in Indiana right
• 14:31
  Speaker 8: off the bat. Why can't we? And I also think,
• 14:34
  Speaker 8: you know, and this is part of the push for
• 14:37
  Speaker 8: 24 teams is as the playoff has become the measuring stick,
• 14:43
  Speaker 8: you know, if you're a Texas missing it, even once
• 14:47
  Speaker 8: they missed the play, they went into the 14 playoff
• 14:49
  Speaker 8: two years in a row. They missed it last year
• 14:50
  Speaker 8: and the tide immediately turned against him. Now I do
• 14:53
  Speaker 8: think in Texas, a lot of that has to do
• 14:56
  Speaker 8: with arch, you know, arch was the savior and arch
• 14:59
  Speaker 8: was going to lead them to a national championship. And
• 15:02
  Speaker 8: based on what you saw the other day, and frankly,
• 15:03
  Speaker 8: we've seen so far this season, people are starting to
• 15:06
  Speaker 8: doubt that's a possibility. And I don't think it's, it's
• 15:10
  Speaker 8: fair to judge anybody in college football, national championship or bust. There's,
• 15:14
  Speaker 8: so much that goes into that. Um, but you want
• 15:18
  Speaker 8: to at least have a shot and I don't, I
• 15:20
  Speaker 8: don't think they're going to fire Sark if they miss
• 15:21
  Speaker 8: the play or if they, uh, if they go nine
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: and three, whether they go into the playoff or not,
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: but there's no question. A lot of people, they're really
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: unhappy with him right now.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: It is when a 2014 playoff help or hurt college
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: coaches in terms of their job security.
• 15:39
  Speaker 8: Well, the people who are coming up with this, Tony
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: Petiti and what, I mean, A lot of people who
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: are voting for it, I think, expect that it will
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: help their job security. And I don't believe that. And
• 15:49
  Speaker 8: the reason I don't believe that is we see in
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: every pro sport all the time, coaches make the playoffs,
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: but they don't go as far as it was expected
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: and they get fired. Like it's not coaches who make
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: the NCAA tournament get fired. Now, your expectations are obviously
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: varied by the school you're at. And so let's say
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: I'm Cal and I go to the playoff, but then
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: for the next few years, I don't make it like,
• 16:16
  Speaker 8: I don't think that's the same as Texas, Ohio state,
• 16:21
  Speaker 8: whatever you may be. But I just think for those
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: blue blood programs, you're going to consider making the playoff
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: to be the bare minimum. I mean, frankly, what I
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: would want to know is if you, if you are
• 16:34
  Speaker 8: Texas and you miss the 2014 playoff, even once, are
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: you out?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: That's kind of how I'd look at it. I mean,
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Because that debate was going on with college basketball, right?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Like a lot of people with the expansion of the
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. It's like, well, that's great if we have
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: 78 teams or whatever, 76 teams, and you make the tournament.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: But if you're, you know, one and done and you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: barely in and you're a bubble team and you're, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you're a 17 and 15 team and you're a blue blood,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: like you say, every expectation is different, right? Every program
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: is different. I mean, the expectations at LSU right now,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: probably not being met by Lane Kiffin for what they
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: invested in Lane and that and that roster, right? So
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: every program is different. That's why I was kind of
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: curious because there's all this talk about, you know, are
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: games still relevant and all those things. I just think
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: the importance of a college coach these days is greater
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: than it's ever been because of all the things you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: have to do, putting that roster together and the portal
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and not just recruiting high school kids and how good
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: is your staff. And so that's kind of the way
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I was looking at it because I'll get to our
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: guys here in a second, but I just feel like
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: that college coaching resume includes so many more things than
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: maybe it used to.
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: I think that we, to this point, you know, we've
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: seen every so often a coach will get fired after
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: two seasons. Jonathan Smith got fired after two seasons last year,
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: Michigan state. And that's seen as an anomaly, but in
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: a 2014 playoff, I think that becomes the norm. You
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: get two years to make it. And if you don't,
• 17:54
  Speaker 8: you're out and think about how much money that's going
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: to cost because the schools are still giving these coaches,
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: they're guaranteed contracts. They're 85, 90% guaranteed contracts. And then
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: you have to pay a huge buyout to let them go. Um,
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: In the NFL, sometimes they'll blame the GM. Yes, the
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: coach gets blamed, but sometimes you blame the GM. He's
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: the one who put the roster together. But because in
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: college that's still relatively new, and in most cases the
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: GM is at worst parallel to the coach on the
• 18:28
  Speaker 8: org chart, I'm not seeing that. I'm not seeing people
• 18:31
  Speaker 8: who are having a bad start to this. Texas A &
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: M fans are not blaming their GM for this disaster start.
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: They're blaming Mike Elko.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: It's funny you bring that up, though. There's Wazoo fans
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: blaming the guy that's Kirby Moore's quote-unquote GM for the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: quarterback issues. At the end of the day, Kirby's the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: offensive guy. He picked him, but It's it is so
• 18:49
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  Speaker 2: best will do. All right, Stu, I'm going to get
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to some of the games and great games this weekend.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: What happened last weekend? Let's just start last, last week. I, uh,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I do, uh, when I'm working for a hockey team,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: we do road games. Our studio is the big network,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the big 10 network out at Washington, uh, that we, uh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that we use and utilize out there. I come walking
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: out of the, uh, the arena where the studios are
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: located midway through the second quarter on Friday night, Iowa, Washington.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And at that point it was 13 turning into 20
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to nothing. The fans in the drizzle pouring out of
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: the stadium. I thought, oh, cool. I'll beat traffic, get
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: the hell out of here soon. In fact, we even
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: thought about going into the game for a bit. We
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: had tickets, and I'm just going to get out of here.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: People were leaving. Before I got in my car, it
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: was 27 to nothing, 26 nothing. And it just got
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: worse from there for Washington and Jed Fish. You're watching
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: from afar, but you're watching on a national scale. You're
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: talking to people. What's the assessment of what Jed Fish
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: in Washington is doing right now? How he's doing, a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: top 20 team to start the season, if that matters
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: at all, maybe it doesn't. But the expectations were higher
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: than a team that is sitting right now at 500.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, they're definitely one of the biggest disappointments
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: in the country, right? They started preseason number 16. A &
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: M would be the one team that was even higher
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: that has totally flopped. But Washington's totally flopped. It doesn't
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: help when you have a quarterback who everybody knows is
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: paying big money because we found out in that lawsuit.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: And he's obviously been a disappointment. I realize he got hurt.
• 20:40
  Speaker 8: But it's obviously more than that. I mean, their defense,
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: it was actually pretty jarring to watch Iowa just line
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: up over and over again and blow them off the ball.
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: You know, the problem sometimes with those Friday night games
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: is everybody's watching them because it's the only game on
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: or one of only two games on. So a lot
• 20:59
  Speaker 8: of people saw that. That was kind of like Penn
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: State the week before. A lot of people saw, wow,
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: they're bad.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. And now they go to Purdue,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: not a short week because it's seven days, but Purdue
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden looks like they can, I don't know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: stop the run and run the football. What world are
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: we living in where Purdue, Matt Painter's basketball school is
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: now turning into a football school, at least in terms
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of what they did to Minnesota? Because that's a Minnesota
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: team that came here and put it to Washington a
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: couple weeks ago.
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Purdue is decent. Barry Odom's in his second year there,
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: and Well, there's a Purdue connection, right? Ryan Walters was
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: the head coach for two years, now the Washington, D.C.,
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: and it was a total debacle. And that program bottomed out.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Barry Odom brought in to rebuild it after he pulled
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: off kind of a miracle, frankly, with UNLV, and you're
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: seeing that progress. Now they're 3-3. They're not off the charts,
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: but they are the one team that has given UCLA fits, right?
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: UCLA's undefeated. People are talking about them going to the playoffs.
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: And I remember that late-night game where they couldn't stop Purdue.
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: Purdue couldn't stop UCLA, and UCLA couldn't stop Purdue. So
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: it's not lost on me. We did the big project
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: a couple weeks ago with everybody's NIL budgets, and it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: not lost on me that Washington has lost to the
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: two teams, Minnesota and Iowa, that are second to last
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: and third to last in the Big Ten on our chart.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: And now they're about to play the one that's dead last,
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: and they might lose to them too.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, things will be bad around here. I can tell
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you that right now. Stuart Mandel from The Athletic joining us.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: What was your takeaway from Georgia, Alabama? Besides maybe a
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: missed call.
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: This is the best. Yeah, that did happen. But regardless,
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: this is the best Georgia team I've seen since Kirby's
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: 21-22 national championship teams. We'd seen some cracks the last
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: couple of years. losing in the quarterfinals, obviously, both years
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: in the playoff. Man, they're doing everything right. Connor Stockton's
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: a great fit quarterback for them. They ran the ball
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: down Alabama's throats at times, and they played good defense.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: Keelan Russell had some big plays, but for the most part,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: he wasn't tearing them up by any means. It doesn't
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: mean I'm jumping off the Alabama bandwagon. That was a
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: down-to-the-last-second game, and I think Alabama's very good, too. Um, but,
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: but Georgia is a very deserving number one right now.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome. I, you know, I've talked, I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: talked about before my family's Alabama from Alabama. We, uh,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: my wife's birthday was last week and we had everybody
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: over and Got settled down in time, having some drinks
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and dinners and watching that game, and there was a
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: lot of angst. But I thought it was just a
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: hell of a football game. But that's what you want.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: That's a great college football game. All the stuff we
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: talk about with NIL and all that stuff, and all
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that's involved with those two programs. We all know that. But, Stuart,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, just a great heavyweight
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: title fight. That's why we love college football is a
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Saturday night game in the southeast, a game like that
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: with those two teams that are more than, well, for sure,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: probably playoff teams, right?
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: Oh, definitely playoff teams. It's whether they can win the
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: national title. And that, you know, I know a lot
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: of people get sick of the SEC and all the
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: acclaim that the SEC gets. But if you watch college
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: football all day, all day like I do, and you
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: see a lot of, frankly, mediocre football, and then you
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: turn that game on and you see that level of
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: athleticism on all sides of the ball, it's pretty eye-opening.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: That doesn't mean that every SEC team looks like that
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: by any means. But those two do.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: No, they do. They pass the eye test and then
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: some Stuart Mandel with us. UCLA loses Nico, their starting quarterback,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: but yet they still beat Oregon. There's two storylines here.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Let's start with UCLA and the Bruins. They're one of
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the better stories this year in college football. And what
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: they're doing is remarkable. Chesney coming in and just picking
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: up where he left off at the group of six
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: level and what he's doing at UCLA. But can they
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: continue to do what they're doing without their starting quarterback?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: They do have a great running back in Wayne Knight,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: but can they keep doing that?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's a really interesting situation because on the
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: one hand, and maybe it's in part because Nico is
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: such a big name, but you think, Oh, that's man,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: how are they going to do it without him? Um,
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: you know, the guy that came in, uh, Ty Dieffenbach,
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: who was, he did a, you know, perfectly good job
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: is a Cal Poly transfer. Um, but then if you
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: look at the stats, like Nico is the 80th rated
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: passer in the country. Um, he had those two interceptions
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: in the first half before he got hurt. Um, I
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: feel like they don't necessarily have to drop off without Nico.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: Maybe it hurts them in the running game a little bit.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: We'll see. But I think they can do this because,
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: like you said, they have Wayne Knight. And the thing
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: I learned in the Oregon game that I had maybe
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: failed to notice is how good they are on defense. Because, again,
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: I saw that Purdue game, right? But if you look
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: over the course of their season, that game was the aberration.
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, they harassed Dylan Rayola to the point where
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: Dan Lanning felt compelled to bench him for a walk-on.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's a statement right there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Well, we talked about Washington disappointment. I'll let the Husky
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: fans have their fun here. How disappointing is Oregon?
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're very disappointing because, again, I think one of
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: the reasons we wanted to do that NIL project was
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: you know what the teams are working with, you can
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: judge them accordingly, and obviously Oregon has one of, if
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: not the richest rosters in the country. Losing Dante Moore,
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: it shouldn't be overlooked, but he– I mean, they looked
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: bad against Oklahoma State even when he was playing. And
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: I wrote about this in the mailbag today. A reader
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: asked me, like, is it as simple as their offensive
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: line is just not very good anymore? And statistically, it's not.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: And I think that the father that that program has
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: gotten from Mario Cristobal, who is an offensive line guru,
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: and they had dominant offensive lines when Bo Nix was there,
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: Dan Lanning's first couple seasons. And it has started to regress,
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: and then it's just kind of bottomed out this year.
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: I don't know if that's the sole explanation, but it's
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: definitely noticeable.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. And at the same time, you're Oregon.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You're kind of a reloading. I think what it shows sometimes, too,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: if you miss on talent evaluation, right? Like that's especially
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: portal or JC or transfers or whatever. If you miss
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: on that, it can hurt you tremendously.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: End of the day, they couldn't score from wherever the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: ball should have been placed. One and a half, one
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: yard line, half yard line, whatever it might have been.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: Couldn't get in.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Couldn't get in. And you're Oregon.
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting, though, in this age where we
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: just assume everybody's in the portal.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: All five starting offensive linemen are Lanning high school recruits. Yeah.
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: Guys that have been in the program for at least
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: two or three years. And then you see that and
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: it's like, oh, something's not right in the development. You know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: this wasn't a case of we picked the wrong guys
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: in the portal. this is, we've had all these years
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: to develop them and we're not developing them. And by
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: the way, it's not the whole group. No, it's two
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: guys in particular. I'm not going to blast them here,
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: but two guys in particular, I really struggled with first
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: time starters.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Uh, the, uh, Stu, we had a good weekend coming up.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Like I, last weekend was sensational. Indiana, Nebraska was awesome. Uh,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: just in terms of the hype down in Lincoln. And, uh,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and then obviously we talked about Georgia and Alabama, but, uh,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: but this weekend, uh, heavyweight title fights, Ohio state, Indiana, uh,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Indiana is hosting that. I can't even fathom what the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: atmosphere is going to be like in Bloomington. Probably not
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: since the days of Bobby Knight in basketball. Have we had, well,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: we have an atmosphere like that in Bloomington. Handicap this
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: for me. Jeremiah Smith against Indiana all day. Jeremiah Smith,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: by the way, shockingly, Ohio State receiver, like our guy,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba. You know what our topic all
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: week has been? Are they, are the Seahawks just using
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: too much JSN? Are they too reliant on JSN? Is
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Ohio State too reliant on Jeremiah Smith or does it
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: even matter?
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: We're going to find out this week, I think, because what, what, what,
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: you know, Indiana obviously almost lost to Nebraska. It was
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: 17 to six in the fourth quarter. They came back
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: at the end. And the one thing that really stood
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: out to me is how poor Indiana was at tackling.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: And so Dana Holgerson, the OC just kept like doing
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: these little screen passes and tosses and just get the
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: guy in open space and then watch him weave through
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: Indiana's defense. If they let Jeremiah Smith do that, they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: going to be in big trouble, right? But what if
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: they can lock him down a little bit, slow him
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: down a little bit, maybe not lock him down? Who
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: are Ohio State's other options? Because it's been so many
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: years of, I mean, you mentioned Jackson Smith and Jig,
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: but he was like the third receiver on the team
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: that went to the Rose Bowl and had Garrett Wilson
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: and Chris Olave. And then Marvin Harrison Jr. comes in
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: and Carnell Tate comes in. This is the first time
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: under Ryan Day where it really is one guy. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: I'm really interested to see how how Indiana prepares for that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: Kurt Cignetti always obviously knows, you know, which combination to
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: play there. It'll be a great test of Indiana secondary.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Now one guy should take a cue and take some
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: lessons from a former Michigan receiver, his rival, and learn
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: how to do the Heisman pose because that's going to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: be his deal in December. At least probably it looks
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: like that right now. When I worked in Salt Lake City,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I always, and I still say this to this day,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: is to me one of the, If it's not the
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: best rivalry in the country, it's one of them, Utah-BYU.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: It's just so underrated. But we called the Holy War
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: back then. I think all those things, Civil War.
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  Speaker 8: No, they still do. Do they?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, they still do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: You're right. It's one of the great underrated rivalries.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It's unreal. I did always laugh, though, when they called
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it the Holy War, because really, for the most part,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: including Coach Whittingham's LDS, most of his staff, I mean,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: everyone at Utah, by and large, a lot of them
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: are still LDS. There was no Holy War there. They
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: were all in the same church. On Sunday morning, they'd
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: all go hang out together at the local stake or ward.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: But this is a Holy War. The Catholics versus the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Mormons on Saturday. Notre Dame and BYU. Stu, I can't
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: wait for this game. This could be sensational. And if
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: nothing else... a true barometer game for Notre Dame first time,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: first time they'll be tested this year, maybe, and maybe
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the same for BYU.
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I think true barometer game for both of them. Um,
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: it's been a while since we saw Notre Dame play
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: a top 10 team, uh, since the first, what the
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: second week of last season, I believe.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: And they've looked great. They've looked like national championship contender,
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: but they're playing a terrible Stanford team, uh, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: a bunch of, bunch of teams like that. So, um,
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: they're going against a BYU team that has a, single
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: digit in front of them. But I think a lot
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: of skeptics, is BYU really a top 10 team? And
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: it's just a really big deal for the Big 12.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: Because it's possible BYU, regardless of what happens on Saturday,
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: ends up winning the Big 12. And what you don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: want if you're the Big 12 is for it to
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: turn out your best team is not on the same
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: playing field as a team like Notre Dame. And by
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: the way, they're missing– the shame of this is they're
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: not at full strength. L.J. Martin was a 1,000-yard rusher
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: last year. I think preseason– if he wasn't a preseason
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: player of the year in the Big 12, he was
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: certainly the first team running back. He's out for a month.
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: Last week against Iowa State, basically their quarterback, Bear Bachmeier,
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: was the runner, too. So that's going to be hard
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: against Notre Dame.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Well, when you're wearing a number in the forties, you
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: can run too. And he runs hard, but it'll be,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: that's a test without with other top running backs to
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: tell people about the audible. It's a great podcast for
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: folks who want to check that out with, with you
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: and Bruce and Ralph.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: The audible is three days a week Sundays, which is
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: live Sunday mornings at eight 30 Pacific time and Tuesdays
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: and Thursdays. We just got done recording tomorrow's episode where
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: we had a pretty interesting discussion about 24 teams, since
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: it seems to be imminent where I, surveyed our, our listeners. Hey, you,
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: you tell us, email us, what are your thoughts on it?
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: So kind of presented both sides and, um, got to hear, um, how,
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: cause you know, people who listen to our podcast are
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: huge college football fans, how they feel about it.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: The, uh, this listener doesn't hate it as much as
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: he hated the expansion of the NCAA tournament. I'll say,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, but I don't like it, but I,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: but I don't like it. I don't like it. Um,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: But we'll see. I'm an old soul, old curmudgeon who's
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: just bitter with my college team right now, but we'll
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: get past that at some point. Stuart, great stuff. We'll
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: talk to you next week.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Ian. Stuart Mandel joining us. Daily Power Play coming up,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: as well as Factor Fiction at 235. He scores!
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: He scores!
• 33:46
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  Speaker 2: Kraken with Ian Furness. Well, Daily Power Play brought to
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  Speaker 2: you by Esquire. Listen, let's talk about last night. Cracking
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: into the win. They're now 5-2 on the season. Best
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: start ever. They're cruising along. Things are good. We're all happy.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: A little spicy last night. Philip Grubauer, he has played
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: really well this year. He played really well last year.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Both he and Decord have been playing good. That helps
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you immensely. And you know what I like about Philip Grubauer?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: He ain't taking any of that nonsense. That's right. Trevor
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Zegras from the Flyers used to play for Anaheim. He's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: kind of a little pissant, and he was trying to
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: get into Grubauer's kitchen last night. Here's what Grubauer had
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to say.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: Goli, when do you take it upon yourself to kind
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: of protect your crease, and when do you say enough
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: is enough? Like, you've got to stop.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, before that situation, there were probably like
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: six things started in the first period there, and then
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: first shot of the second period, they come in, they
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: stab at me, and then the second shot, they stab
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: at me. And then after he speared me twice, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: think you go back in the day, you get your
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: face punched in somehow. And sometimes, you know, you got
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: to stand up if the refs don't really protect your grease.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: So they did a great job after that. But all
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: I did was like punch him. He stabbed me twice,
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: punched him back and kind of thought it was funny,
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: but they couldn't let it go. So I don't know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: I don't know what the team's been doing as a
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: whole since the season started. I mean, we hear them
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: talk about standing up for each other and not taking
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: it as much.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a huge part of the game, right? If
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: somebody gets hit or, like, if there's a dirty play
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: somewhere and, like, you need somebody to step up, that's
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: what the team is all about, and we've done an
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: amazing job this year.
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: You kind of threw the puck back at him, it
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: looked like.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: What was that about?
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he stared me down and then, like, was yapping
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: at me, so I just, like, rolled the puck back
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: at him and then, I guess, shot it back, right?
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: So.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Um, yeah, it's a younger place. I don't know if
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: you call it a little, if his feelings got hurt there,
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: but it's all good. Like I thought it was funny.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: It's part of the game too. And, um, it seemed
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: like they couldn't let it go. And yeah.
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: Did you know it was him right away that ended
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: up scoring the goal a little bit later?
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: Uh, I knew, but all right. Walked away with the win.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Got his feelings hurt, walked away with the win. Oh,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: and bought the best part.
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Back in the day to get punched in the face.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Still could have. Too close a game to do that
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: last night.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I just like that he was like, yes, I just
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: punched him.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I just punched him. I mean, he just gave him
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: a little cross check right in the chicklets. Zegers versus
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Grubauer was fun last night because Grubauer had him, made
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a bunch of big saves on him. The one where
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: he just kind of made a nice little easy glove
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: save and he rolled the puck out. He rolled the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: puck back at him, Zegers, and Zegers kind of went
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: after him and they kind of Everybody else jumped in,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and then Zegras scored a goal to tie the game
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: at two.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that turd.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: That wasn't fun. But then this was the best part.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: They go to the shootout, and Philadelphia chooses the home
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: team to go first. Zegras comes over the boards, just
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: gets stoned by them. No goal. Thanks for coming. They win.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Advantage Grubauer. Yeah, suck it. Good for Gruby.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Suck it, Flyers.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Good for Gruby. Attaboy. Well done. I just like the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: way this team's playing is different. We did this last week, right?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: We gave away tickets to a game. We did, yeah.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I believe I'm going to give away tickets for the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: game coming up on Tuesday as well.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: We'll also have a Kraken Ticket Tuesday coming up on Tuesday.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But I think on Monday, just look at you had
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: so many people. That texted in.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Some great stories. I'm assuming the people that went had
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: a good time. We never heard back from them.
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I actually went back to go check and see if
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: she had texted back in. It was a very cool story,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: and I felt like it stuck.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Spoke to me.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: It was one of our female listeners whose father is
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: really dealing with some health issues.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: And they don't really know how much longer they have,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: so they're trying to make as many memories as they can.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: So she wanted to take him to the game, assuming
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: he was going to be well enough to go.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Perfect.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: So I do need to follow up and see if
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: he was able to go and if he enjoyed it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Well, our goal is on this show, we will be
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: giving away some tickets to people that maybe haven't been before.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: And so I'm going to, I've got an opportunity to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: do that with some folks on the radio show in
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: addition to our Cracking Ticket Tuesday. But I like what
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: we did that day. We'll get some more stories.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was, they had never gone before. So
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: it was their first.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: Beautiful.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Creating memories.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: They were like, we want to create a memory we've
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: never been. This would be great.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: So the memory wasn't great in terms of the score.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: That was when Vegas came in here and laid it
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to them. But they, Seattle, I don't want to say
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: this should win. It will, I'm going to guess it's
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: going to be better.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I would hope so.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It'll be better this week when they take on Detroit
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: on Tuesday. So we'll try to make that happen for
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: some folks next week. All right. We'll take a break.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: When we come back, Alex, MK. It ain't good right now. Listen,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Husky fans, you think you got it bad? Oh, at
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: least you have more than one win. Now, you know
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the one thing we can all share together? Neither team
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: knows who their quarterback is or should be. We'll talk
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: about that next.